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first for stannis

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>>52807247
In about 10 hours we gonna have Ynnari vs Death Guard.

Yncarne vs Morty.

Anyone wanna bet who is going to win?

Third for who the fuck is stannis

nth for genestealer genocide when

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Posting for criticism on 1250 list.

Pedro with centurions to tank AP

Lib with plasmadevs to reroll gets hot

Combat squad the vets, half on a tank/transport, half on infantry

>>52807320
When the Sky Mother comes

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Is there such a thing as a good Ork list?

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>>52807289
everyone who isn't playing them

>>52807331
Are you using the reactors on the plasmadevs? You're aware they up the chance of get hot right?

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Is it worth it to take the Maelstrom of Gore as the core in the Butcherhorde detachment over the Chaos Warband?

Fleet and +3 are nice, but paying the extra for the zerkers feels like a waste of points

pls let running a fuckton of Raptors be viable in 8e

I just want to play fluffy Night Lords

>>52807340
Tbh senpai the truly faithful will be reborn

>>52807401
plasma large blasts are fucking disgusting and he can reroll them anyway, why wouldn't he

>>52807289
Obviously Ynnari. Otherwise that shit is rigged.

>>52807512
If you choose "average" units from the Eldar codices the match will come out much better than if you just pick the scatterbike list from hell.

>>52807600
You mean invisible, deep striking, non scattering d-scythe wraithguard?

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>>52807600

riddle me this /tg/:

how can jet bikers with a 3+ armour save, strength 6 weapons, and that can travel the entire board in one turn... be so cheap?? and yet count as a TROOPS CHOICE?

>>52807646
WWP archon escorting D-scythe wraithguard with whateverseers attached spamming Telepathy for Invisibility is not an "average" codex unit.

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I went up against GGA yesterday with my in progress Guard. It was an intense 2000 point Maelstrom game. About halfway through we shifted to using Escalation rules for his Shadowsword, which made a huge difference and gave him a fun time of destroying all my fun and important units. That made up for me seizing the initiative and grabbing 7 points right away.

The Psychic Phase was a comical battle of shutting each other down. We both rolled up Forewarning to give to our blobs, but more often than not, we denied the power. I think we only got to use it 2 times each despite getting it off every turn. The highlights for him were obviously the Shadowsword destroying everything. I didn't get a chance to do a lot of damage, but I managed to do my objectives.

I got very lucky and ended up winning by only 1 point. I rolled a 2 to see if the game went on, which saved me from being tabled.

Anyone play any fun games lately?

>>52807718
Because GW thinks its player base only plays against friends with beer and pretzels while forging the narrative.

Anyone else watch the Tabletop Tactics Gaius War series? I thought the first 4 installations were amazing -- super Your Dudes tier. Number 5 literally brought in fucking Guilliman, and of course the goddamn Ultramarines won. Herohammer needs to go.

>>52807886
WHF 6th edition try to do that. Look what happen.

>>52807881
The more they should care about not having such OP bullshit. I mean its impossible to play friendly against the Eldar. All they field is utterly broken.

And now with soulburst, its like they are playing a different game altogether

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Criticism on 750 Ravenwing list? Lots of plasma because dark angels

First list ever so go easy on me.

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is the Deathwatch any good/viable right now?

>>52807939
get some black knights

>>52807401
>>52807510
Yes, I calculated the probability of taking a wound on a devastator when I have the librarian for prescience at about 3.7%.

I can show you the math:

2/6 chance of gets hot on first shot
(2/6)^2 chance of gets hot on reroll
(2/6)^3 chance of failing armor save on double gets hot

>>52807917
No no you see, when forging a narrative! You bring what ever you like! Just tell your friend to try something different like a WraithKnight

>>52807917
My Banshees and Shining Spears disagree, hell if they leave the Avatars 12" bubble they struggle with tacmarines.

>>52807972
Maybe if I bring 4000 points of Chaos space marines against 1850 points of Ynnari I might have a chance

>>52807289
Where? Twitch?

>>52807361
Yes

One that's fun to field.

>>52807959
That's essentially what the command squad is. Do you think I need more?

>>52807948
as an ally? maybe. as an army by itself? no. none of the ally kinda armies can stand well besides GSC and War convo (but that's more from how it's almost a decurion)

>>52808018
Yes, if you can

>>52807939
That's quite possibly the worst formatted list I've ever seen on TG, it ranks right up there with 8000x400 battlescribe dumps.

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>>52808002
>Shining Spears
>tfw when never getting full plastics
>tfw never getting phoenix lord
>tfw least played shrine.
>tfw everyone hates bike-dar because of scat pikes.
why must it be so?

>>52807948
Not if you play competetive. They have too few models, like the Thousand sons, but lack the invuls and spells of Thousand sons

>>52808032
What the hell is so special about the War Convocation?

>>52808009
You could try Magnus and some Thousand Sons, they are super powerful!

If your Eldar friends feels your AP3 is too much just let him save anyway!

Oh the Eldar killed all your units with Soulburst? That is 40k! So fun!

>>52808052
About 500 points of free upgrades?

>>52808053
Coincidentaly Magnus and Thousand sons are my 40k army...

>>52808050
I'd just settle for fucking Hit & Run.

Why waste that on fucking spiders, the shits never close to melee on purpose, AND THEIR ENTIRE GIMMIC ISN'T COMPLETELY RELIANT ON CHARGING.

>>52807718
It's been a slow creep to get to that point, and I don't think GW realizes what's fair to have as troops sometimes.

If they were capped at 1 weapon per 3 bikes, or just put a cap of 3 weapons if it's really that important to have a small squad be uniform, then they'd be less annoying.

What would also help is if Eldar jetbikes only gave a 4+ save. No real reason they have to have marine armor along with the toughness increase.

Doesn't help matters that Eldar Jetbikes are also special and faster than all other bikes and jetbikes. It would also be nice if you did have to have a bike HQ in order to access them as troops, but that wouldn't really change too much.

Ideally, you could have Guardian Windriders be 4+ armor, 17 points, and be limited to Catapults as the Troop choice, and then make an elite variant that can get those heavy weapons but is capped at a smaller size.

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>>52808052
It's op as fuck. Army wide Canticles if fucking great, *FREE* weapon upgrades (with fucking ad mech) and no get's hot.

WAACfaggots in my gaming store made up a rule that WD formations aren't allowed when their precious Eldar/Tau/Gravspam lost

>>52808095
Dark Eldar Jetbikes have a 5+

>>52808041
Yeah autism kicked in and I posted the uncropped one, my bad.

>>52808108
Yeah, and I'm saying it would be better if ALL Eldar jetbikes had a 4+. There's no real reason for Reavers to be that frail, and there's no reason for Windriders to be that durable. Shining Spears have heavy aspect armor for a 3+ anyway, as do Autarchs.

What's /tg/'s opinion on deamon Magnus. OP or not?

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>>52808112
An autist would do a proper job.
Even if it's not his list.

>>52808151
well there is a reason why people played 3 DoP and him together

>>52808174
That is rather cheesy list.

Want to have anal sex later? I like to give

>>52808151
If he has enough batteries to carry him yeah, but like Tau, take away the "marketeers" and you're left with a very expensive, very resilient Doorstop.

>>52808203
How is it cheesy? It's probably just gonna blow itself up after a couple turns of shooting because of all the plasma.

Is it true that the Emperor was a jerk? I saw someone commenting he was pretty evil in The Horus Heresy.

>>52807917
This is why i had to stop playing crons against friends. There's just no way for me to field a casual list that people enjoy playing against.

>>52808203
Naw mate, i only play as lucky Pierre and I'm all sore from today's stretching attempt, shit keeps falling out.

>>52808237
>Is it true that the Emperor was a jerk?
Yes.
>I saw someone commenting he was pretty evil in The Horus Heresy.
Don't trust anyone on HH, people are so invested in their guys they'll literally lie about the books to prop up their faction (looking at you chaosfags).

>>52808264
>they'll literally lie about the books to prop up their faction (looking at you chaosfags).

Give one example of this and use the archive.

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>>52808264
did things really change that much since i left?

>>52808285
reminds me of a skit i did back in a quest fag complain thread

Has anyone noticed that the various legion detachments in the Traitor Legion books aren't actually required, in their restrictions, to be the legion they represent?

So theoretically you could have a world eater Vectorium detachment

>>52808236
I was going to make it more obvious with "a very gay list"

>Dark Angels
>Shooting hot loads of plasma

But oh well.

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With 8th Edition coming out do you guys think GW will be able to balance all of the armies? I'm not asking you think they will, but if it's actually possible? I've only played for about four years so I've only ever known Tau and Eldar being filthy rape machines. Was the game balanced before now or has it always been this poorly done?

>>52808383
its possible, but it requires a level of effort and testing and community involvement they aren't giving.

>>52808383
>Was the game balanced before now or has it always been this poorly done?
Eldar have never been bad, they haven't always been top tier but they have never been bad or even mid-tier.

The fear is that, as GW isn't doing so well, they won't dare nerf popular armies because they fear losing customers.

>>52808383
Any army can be OP if a player knows what list to pick and how to min/max to the fullest extent of WAAC.
It's not,really up to GW to balance the armies, it's up to the players.

>>52808383
It will be shit like every edition. Since the competion sucks colosal balls GW will survive.

>>52808383
40k doesn't need to be perfectly balanced, but it does need to be better than it is now. If they update everything all at once that should theoretically help, as staggered releases have been one of the largest problems with unbalance.

>>52808437
Please make a WAAC list with Orks or more easy with SoB that can defeat Eldar or Tau WAAC.

How scummy are Knights at lower points? I'm a new Skitarii player and as much as I love Dragoons, I can get a Knight for less than a squad of them so I'm up in the air between Dragoons or a Knight.

I only have troops and Infiltrators apart from that but I've always wanted to paint a Knight and autismfag over the heraldry and lore of my house.

>>52808190
Magnus isnt the OP part of that list

>>52808434
GWs stock is at it's highest point ever. Pretty sure they're doing just fine.

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Fuck it anons it's time for a GGA batrep. So gather round kiddos stop shitposting for a few minutes because for once something 40k related is actually happening. Did a 2000pt Deadlock game against another /tg/ anon and Guard player so I hope you fuckers enjoy.

>>52808383
It would be possible, but only if GW is actually willing to take a look at things. That said, there aren't really that many things they would need to change to bring things in line. Even just an overhaul for Tyranids/Orks to fix their point values and give them options, along with a Traitor Legions style update for both of them and guard would be enough to drag all of them up to being more solidly mid-tier.

Combine that with some nerfs to some of those top-level models and formations so that the top-tier isn't quite as strong, and you'd have things in a pretty good range.

Already I would say that CSM is on the level where it can really compete with vanilla marines, even excluding magnus. And that's an army that was tapering right on the edge of low tier against one that's in the top 4, and all it took was one supplement.

>>52808437
Orks say " 'Ey, ye git"

Anywhere i can find the audiobooks?

>>52808480
over 1k points its fine. Below 1k points would be a colossal dick move

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>>52808496
The other side of my deployment. And yes my opponent agreed to the Shadowsword. We decided to do 24 inch deployment zones because the diagonal deployment eats ass.

>>52808501
CSM still have an issue with a lot of things being too overcosted and that stupid rule that sorcerers have to take one power from their god's discipline

>>52808434
>Eldar have never been bad, they haven't always been top tier
I can't remember any edition Eldar was updated in that they weren't the best army.

>>52808490
You do realize it's a British company? You don't have to guess. You can look.

https://19485-presscdn-0-14-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Combined-document-with-front-page.pdf

GW isn't doing especially well, their decline has slowed down though.

>>52808587
I believe because there wasn't one

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>>52808360
That's kinda fluffy even

>>52808575
Other guy already posted. Also
>>52808496
Fuck off

>>52808203
Drown yourself in semen faggot

>>52808580
Yeah, they still have issues, but those issues are more a matter of design rather than power level. A couple point drops for the lesser used units and a general clean-up of rules and they'd be in a good place.

Besides, any Legion list that wants to not take god-specific psychic powers because of Mark restrictions could just ally in a Cyclopia Cabal for 3 Black Legion ones easily enough.

They're in a very good spot aside from Thousand Sons lists, but the same could be said of Chaos Daemons who have Tzeentch as an amazing top-tier force while the others aren't nearly as good.

The gap is much smaller, and the CSM codex has largely overcome most of its flaws.

>>52808237
Depending on the author, he can be evil, autistic or both.

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>>52808575
And if you guys are listening just tell me. My opponent and I were pretty much WYSIWYG. They deployed second and it was pretty much the usual /tg/ approved Guard army with auto cannons and Paskisher. And all of the astropaths were taken from Imperial Agents.

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I'm going to be playing for the first time in years next week and I need a hand filling out a 1850 point list for pure Sisters of battle.

So far I have:


+ HQ +

Canoness [130pts]: Combi-Plasma, Power Weapon (Axe), Relic - The Mantle of Ophelia, Replace With Ranged Weapon, Rosarius

+ Troops +

Battle Sister Squad [135pts]: Sister Superior x2
. Battle Sister x2
. Battle Sister w/ Special or Heavy Weapon: Heavy Flamer
. Battle Sister w/ Special Weapon: Flamer
. Immolator: Twin-Linked Multi-Melta

+ Fast Attack +

Dominion Squad [175pts] x2
. Dominion Superior: Combi-Melta
. Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun x4
. Immolator: Twin-Linked Heavy Flamer

Seraphim Squad [195pts]
. Seraphim x7
. Seraphim Superior: Bolt Pistol, Power Weapon (Axe)
. Seraphim w/ Special Weapons x2
. . 2x Hand Flamers

+ Heavy Support +

Exorcist [125pts] x2

+ Elites +

Sororitas Command Squad (C:IA) [175pts] x2
. Celestian: Combi-Plasma x4
. Hospitaller: Chirurgeon's Tools
. Immolator: Twin-Linked Multi-Melta


++ Total: [1545pts] ++

I have a lot of infantry still available with most heavy weapons, but no more rhino chasis. No new Celestine or rules for her either atm. I do have Coteaz and a generic inquisitor, along with a shooty henchmen squad. I've got a few priests and Jacobus. I can also put together some death cultists and I do have a squad of repentia.

I watched a couple of games tonight and there was nothing super cheesy, but it was fairly competitive. I will look at picking up Celestine and possibly an assassin, but for now I just want to use what I've got without proxying.

My main thoughts where coteaz, a priest, a heavy bolter retributor squad, aegis defense line and maybe another basic squad if there's still points left over.

>>52808587
>>52808625
Yeah I should have clarified that they were not top tier only for a short time during one of the editions. They were updated, yes.

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>>52808615
>not doing especially well
>decline has slowed
>share price at a MASSIVE two year high
Do your research mate

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>>52808675
Here was the other side of the table. There was Forewarning on both sides of the board and the mutual goal was to meet all the blob squads in the middle for a glorious melee.
>>52808647
Anon I finally got the time to do the batrep now.

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>>52808719
They aren't doing well, considering what they have been. And they are in decline, there's not getting past it.

Why are you fanboying over a company on the internet? GW isn't your friend.

>>52807966
3.7% Per trooper is 14.8% Per shooting Phase. Or about a 74% chance you accidentally kill one guy after 5 rounds of shooting.

Still better than my plasma-spamming list: 5 Leman Russ Executioners in a Steel Host. That has a 34% chance of at least one glance every turn! Thank god for Techpriests!

Why do people like Orks? They massacre or enslave whole populations out of boredom. Imagine seing your friends and loved ones cut down, eaten or worked to death by xenos filth. Billions of innocent souls sent screaming to the warp for the amusement of an npc race.

They have no redeeming qualities.

>>52808786
Because they're funny, because people like playing the villain and besides, the imperium does the same thing all the time for different reasons.

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Why doesn't Asmodai's model look like this?

>>52808466
Buzzgob, bikerspam, Supa kannon batteries, It may not beat T1 armies going all out cheese but iIassure you noone will be having *any* fun.

>>52808677
What's with the two combi plasma command squads? That's a hell of a lot of points for one round of shooting. (Personally, I run one with four heavy bolters, and attach a psyoculum having inquisitor to it.)


Good to see a fellow sisters player though. I'd advise you to get your hands on a third exorcist sooner or later, they're actually quite good.

>>52808383
I remain convinced that the best way to fix the game is to collapse everything into CAD and remove squadrons from the game. A riptide can be quite OP, but if you can't take more than 3 of them and doing so looses you access to crises and stealth/ghost suits, then it really isn't that bad.

BTW, if a Riptide activates countermeasures, can I use "Awaken the Machine" to shoot him with my battle cannon anyways? After all, the gun technically didn't fire to begin with.

>>52807247
40k Age of Sigmar Warscroll Compendiums

http://hivefleetcharybdis.blogspot.com/2016/03/age-of-sigmar-40k-space-marine.html?m=1

>>52808719
Jesus Christ I should've invested back when I got my job! Ah well, I'd probably loose it anyways. That peak looks like it's going to fall and I fear a big gain like this could mean the start of an equally big crash.

>>52808652
I'm not the one playing DA

>>52808677
Use the image list builder or make a better format

Why do you have a power weapon in the Seraphim squad? Or a superior for that matter. You are not protecting old Celestine, so there is no point to have her.

>>52808806
Invading people's worlds to destroy their homes, enslave their friends and kill their families is not funny, it's fucked up.

And at least the Imperium avoids killing civilians unless they absolutely have to. Unlike xenos filth they don't actively seek to torment the innocent.

>>52808829
The actual model doesn't look bad at all though

>>52808847
Yeah, that does solve a lot of problems with the current setup. I would say that the removal of Squadrons really just applies to Tau's giant battlesuits though. It's less obnoxious for Dreadnoughts and tanks and things like that.

Restricting things to CADs helps as well, since it limits LoW spam in a more direct way.

You would still need more fixes on top of that though, but it's a sensible start to make that puts everyone on more even ground for further changes.

>>52808653
I'd just prefer not having to take Tzeentch powers on all of my expensive thousand sons sorcerers

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>>52808878
What is this?

>>52808675
Looking at your shadowsword, I can tell your painting has improved immensely.

>>52808887
>tfw I bought a grands worth of GW shares a few years back at 360p and sold them at about 445p
Fuck I feel awful for making a quick buck and not hanging on could have trebled my investment

>>52808878
>Meganobs have worse armour than Marines
Complete garbage.

>>52808902
You can hunt people for sport in the imperium.

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Finished painting my Dark Angels Heralds of Ruin kill team.

>>52808942
the Meganobz aren't in Mega armor, they're just the bigger nobz as far as the guy said, he was going to add the armored version later

>>52807442

You don't take Butcherhorde for the movement and fleet. You should read that other bit.

>>52808906
You're not wrong, but the thought of a menacing looking Asmodai with a skull for the top half of his skull mask sounds really cool.

Tbqh I think the DA characters need an update though.

>>52808015
This git knows what he's talkin about!

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>>52808739
They seized the initiative and I started to feel like an idiot for taking a single shot Shadowsword when there was just so much opposing me. And my lads suffered for it. Well besides the one Chimera that got immediately immobilized my opponent had an amazing first turn. Killed a Chimera with autocannons immediately. Murdered about 19 Guardsman out of my blob immediately as well. They ended up scoring about 8 points on turn one just based on all the cards I got so I was pretty sure I was fucked. And sorry I didn't type this up earlier or yesterday anons had an extreme headache.

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>>52808956
Why HoR and not SWA?????

>>52808847
>remove squadrons from the game
No one that runs tanks really uses squadrons for a reason.
The only time squadrons come up is in your exact example because vehicles take hefty drawbacks from squadrons. That said, lesser vehicles, like whirlwinds, warbuggies and the like, gain from sqaudrons.

>>52808913
Yeah, that's more of a problem with Thousand Sons specifically though, and is something with a lot of ways it could be fixed.

The first would be to discount the Rubric sorcerers that come in units, since they'll rarely roll a power they can actually use, and having a force weapon doesn't help with a slow and purposeful escort too often. Heck, just making it so that the Sorcerer is an optional upgrade might help Thousand Sons lists.

The alternative would be to make the Tzeentch powers for Chaos marines less garbage in general. Doom Bolt is the only one that ever sounds worthwhile, and the others aren't as good for a random sorcerer in a squad like that.

If the Tzeentch table had more blessings and buffs, it would work out better for a unit to have that psychic power as more direct support for them. Something to teleport the squad around to help their mobility, something to reduce enemy cover saves, anything that would actually help the Rubrics do their job rather than just adding more weird shooting.

>>52808946
Not innocent people.

>>52808991
>Heck, just making it so that the Sorcerer is an optional upgrade might help Thousand Sons lists.

Wouldnt be fluff-appropriate.

>>52807480
>implying running nothing but raptors is fluffy night lords

>>52808647
>someone wants to batrep
>fuck off
Why?

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>>52808984
The luckiest or unluckiest Chimera of the game.

>>52807442
If you want guaranteed first turn charges yeah. Also WS5 can go a long way in helping you deal with melee units.

>>52808559
I played a game against a knight and an execution force in a 1000 point game once. Even knowing about it before hand and basically tailoring my entire list around it, I lost. Knight took out almost 700 points of guard.

>>52808985
Because "lol only rules for plastics" is a shit idea.

>"What? Use our experienced outcast scouts or stealthy close range assailants on a deep insertion mission? Nonsense! Send in the civillian Militia."

>>52809034
Whysit lucky? Also did you get shots of each army before the game?

>>52808383
In my optinion : Different flies, same shit.

>>52809059
that's a valid point

>>52808383
We are going to get SoB.

>>52808837

Plasma squads are just a bit of fun really since I have a lot of heavy bolter sisters that will be easy to convert. Would I better off using those immolator to ferry round a couple of troop squads?

A third exorcist will go on my shopping list.

>>52809094
I play sisters. We are going to get squatted. Send Help.

>>52807480
Well, they can charge after DS now via formation

>>52809094
Why lie?

>>52809116
I do to. Just play them as female marine.

>>52809115
I would. Last time I played at 1850 I ran four troop squads in the things and kept my heavy bolter command squad as a stationary firebase type thing (They killed maugen ra on turn one, shit was funny), but I have far too many fucking tanks.

>>52807811

Nice penal legion dudes.

>>52807881
>its player base only plays against friends with beer and pretzels while forging the narrative.

The initial release of AoS put this bullshit to rest.

>>52808973
they literally all got an update when 7th edition came out

>>52809153
>Why lie?
You gotta believe.

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Word Bearers deserve to be Chaos' poster boys

>>52808991
Or maybe the Tzeentch powers should really make up for the lack of firepower against certain targets that the rubricae have. Like a power that can actually clear out hordes (Firestorm doesn't do anything most of the time) something besides Doombolt that can lay down the hurt on things with a 2+ save and vehicles, a power that is good against monsterous creatures... They don't have to be OP or anything, but just be able to do decent damage against targets.

And the way psychic powers work should be changed. Less cumbersome, but also in such a way that you no longer have a bunch of low level psykers who just hang around all game, never casting anything, to providing warp charges for the handfull of powerfull psykers who actually cast things. Before 7th my Aspiring Sorcerers always got to at least try casting something, but right now I rarely have the Warp Charges left. They might as well be pink horrors at that point.

>>52809189

Nope.

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>>52805209
Delivered.

>>52809189
Literally space jehovas witnesses.

>>52809217
Yeah that's why

>>52809190
Yeah. The changes in 7th screwed over ML 1 psykers quite a lot.

As I said, there are a lot of ways they could fix thousand sons, but CSM as a whole are still in a very nice spot.

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>>52809062
It immediately got immobilized which let it survive so long since it wasn't in the open. But in my turn I moved up my Chimera and Guard blob and moved my veterans into cover. I gave my blob forewarning to absorb some more shots and they FRSR straight into some conscripts and with the aid of a battle cannon did some pretty decent damage. But my Shadowsword was the true focus of my turn and it tried to take out the enemy warlord with a mighty D shot.

>>52809227
Knocking on your door at seven AM to ask if you have a moment to talk about our lord and saviour THE BLOOD GOD PLEASE DONATE YOUR SKULL FOR THE THRONE FUND

>>52807331
Compared to this, which seems better? I obviously have to shave 5 points off somewhere.

HB devs still get tank hunter, but I get a cannon to replace the librarian, since he was solely there for prescience, and if lucky, ignores cover

>>52809189
>the Chaos Legion isn't the posterboy for Chaos
>the red bad guys aren't the posterboys for the bad super soldiers even though their rivals, the blue good guys are the posterboys for the good super soldiers
What a shame.

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>>52809267
forgot pic

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>>52809248
Only did one hullpoint to the Chimera and a Sentinel leaving them both shaken. Managed to score 2 points but it was still looking from.

>>52809236

No, marked sorcerers being FORCED to roll one power on their Mark's table is what fucks ML1 sorcerers. If rubric sorcerers could roll on any table, like say Heretech or Telepathy and get chaos focus, then they wouldn't be so bad. Hell, maybe give them a free roll on their gods table. I say this as a NL player, not even a 1ks player. Hell, I can't even use marks, which is a BENEFIT when it comes to sorcerers. That's fucked.

>>52809154

This is what I'm thinking now.

+ HQ +

Inquisitor Coteaz [100pts]

Canoness [130pts]: Combi-Plasma, Power Weapon (Axe), Relic - The Mantle of Ophelia, Replace With Ranged Weapon, Rosarius

Ministorum Priest [25pts]: Laspistol

+ Troops +

Battle Sister Squad [145pts] x3
. Battle Sister
. Battle Sister
. Battle Sister w/ Special or Heavy Weapon: Heavy Flamer
. Battle Sister w/ Special Weapon: Flamer
. Immolator: Twin-Linked Multi-Melta
. Sister Superior: Combi-Flamer

Battle Sister Squad [145pts]
. Battle Sister
. Battle Sister
. Battle Sister w/ Special or Heavy Weapon: Multi-Melta
. Battle Sister w/ Special Weapon: Flamer
. Immolator: Twin-Linked Heavy Flamer
. Sister Superior: Combi-Flamer

+ Fast Attack +

Dominion Squad [185pts] x2
. Dominion Superior: Combi-Melta
. Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun
. Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun
. Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun
. Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun
. Immolator: Laud Hailer, Twin-Linked Heavy Flamer

Seraphim Squad [165pts]
. Seraphim
. Seraphim
. Seraphim
. Seraphim
. Seraphim
. Seraphim Superior: Bolt Pistol, Power Weapon (Axe)
. Seraphim w/ Special Weapons
. . 2x Hand Flamers: 2x Hand Flamer
. Seraphim w/ Special Weapons
. . 2x Hand Flamers: 2x Hand Flamer

+ Heavy Support +

Exorcist [125p] x2

Retributor Squad [127pts]
. Retributor Superior: Storm Bolter
. Retributor w/ Heavy Weapon: Heavy Bolter
. Retributor w/ Heavy Weapon: Heavy Bolter
. Retributor w/ Heavy Weapon: Heavy Bolter
. Retributor w/ Heavy Weapon: Heavy Bolter
. Retributor w/ Simulacrum Imperialis: Simulacrum Imperialis

+ Fortification +

Aegis Defense Line [100pts]: Gun Emplacement with Quad-gun

++ Total: [1847pts] ++

>>52809305
Yeah, you're right. There's clearly only one solution to this problem. The one you decided was the right solution. There's absolutely no other answers to this.

Good work.

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>>52809272
Yeah that's what I thought before saying it

They could and should exploit more the rivalry between Word Bearers and Ultramarines

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>>52809062
Here's a pretty good one of my opponent's army but everything was pretty much on the table for us both. With the exception of one Scion squad for me.

>>52809305
But the psychic phase of 7th makes it so that even if the ML 1 sorcerers in a Thousand Sons army had good powers, you'd almost never have Warp Charge dice left to actually attempt to cast those powers. Because you need those Warp Charge dice for your Exalted Sorcerers and such to do the heavy lifting.

>>52809216
Damn good stuff, sir.

>>52809327

Fuck you.

>>52809354
For what? Pointing out that there are a lot of ways that they could make 1k sons less shit?

>>52809329
But anon, everybody hates the Ultramarines. The Alpha Legion also have a rivalry going on with them for example

Why are the Space Marines and Sisters of Battle so prone to purge? It seems the Imperial Guard are the only ones who fight with measure.

>>52809317
Please use this:
>List organizer picture book
https://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#/rosterCreator

The shitty Battlescribe format for SoB is a worst than the shitty image list builder.

Also STOP GETTING VETERAN SUPERIOR FOR YOUR SERAPHIM AND STOP GIVING THEM POWER WEAPONS.

That those point get Castellan of the Imperium you are already using Coteaz Senpai.

>>52809417
That's what being a zealot does to you. Whenever you check the time, all you see is PURGE o' clock.

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>>52809384
But theyr rivalry is a lot more shaded, also the Alpha Legion doesn't have the same chaos presence as the Word Bearers, even though they are one of my favourite traitor legions

>>52809189
To be the poster boys they'd have to be competent.

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Anyone that can help me with this list

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>>52809291
Their turn two they moved everything up even more. Tanks moved up to get in range with the Demolisher especially trying to do something. In pyschic phase they tried casting Forewarning on both of their infantry blobs and my psyker out of rage and love for the Emperor denied both of them. And in the shooting phase they took a hull point off my warlord and killed some members of my command squad but everything else survived pretty much unscathed.

>>52809417
If by 'with measure' you mean 'with ordinance templates instead of flamer templates' then sure.

>>52809417
Actually there is only one Militant SoB order that is purge happy, the rest of the SoB order dislike their purge happy conducts.

Mind you every SoB order loves purging but not every order is that happy to do it as Our Martyr Lady.

>>52809430

Will do in the future.

What does castellans do, I don't have gathering storm yet.

>>52809216
fantastic

>>52809250
Except WB are terrible khornates because they'd rather enslave civilians to build massive temples instead of killing warriors in his name.

>>52809443
>literally the only legion to remain a fully unified legion
>actually start cults and disrupt imperial worlds with regularity
>slew two of the Astartes Praeses and a third's chapter master and a company.
I suppose the last part's no longer useful, but the Word Bearers are extremely competent.

>>52809459
It's on the OP,

Basically it is a detechamten that gives you a massive CAD with Imperium forces
You need 2-5 HQ, 4+ Troops 0-6 everything else but LoW and fortification that are 0-3 if I recall.

Why use it? Well Troops come back on 5+ when they die, their dedicated transport and the girls inside.
Everyone gets hatred.
With Coteaz every non vehicle gets Objective Secure.

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>>52809447
My turn two was really where the game heated up. I moved up my Guard blob in preparation to charge the enemy as we both agreed blob fights are pretty fun. Chimera moved up to flame some enemy conscripts as well. And in revenge for denying their pyschic phase all of mine got denied as well.

>>52809503

Thanks dude, that sounds like a pretty good choice

>>52809495
>get btfo in every single conflict, even in the heresy
>not dodoomed by plot as with other legions, but genuinely outclassed and then rekt by single loyalist chapters
Yeah, so competent. They're a joke to the point even the Gods kek at their idiocy.

>>52809458

Argent Shroud would like a word with you.

>>52807247
If they're going to talk about the dangers of sharp pointy stuff shouldn't they talk about not breathing in resin dust?

Can you get any +1 bonuses to deny the witch rolls for psyker ML advantage, psychic hood, etc when trying to deny an enemy's blessing cast on an enemy unit?

E.g. I want to deny invisibility cast by my enemy's ML1 psyker. Can my ML2 psyker get +1 to deny rolls?

My intuition says no.

>>52807289

>Look Mom, I got (you)s do I get my tendies now?

fuck off

>>52809565
You are correct. You only get the bonus when your units are targeted.

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>>52809506
This was when we went to Escalation rules counting it as ignoring saves with D3+1 hull points off on a 2-5. My scions came in and destroyed the Demolisher with three meltas to the rear. My Vanquisher and Executioner killed a bunch of Guardsman with a hull point getting taken off a Sentinel too. And the glorious,sexy Shadowsword blew up Pask's wing mate on a six and got Pask down to only one HP remaining.

>>52809557
I can't be ass to look but are those the one that refuse to kill civilians? Then proceed to kill marines that did?

>>52809581
Thanks. I want to make sure prescience goes off on my devastators. This means it will be really hard to deny without just a mass ammount of dice.

>>52809273
shameless bump

>>52807939
>How to take screenshots
Kek, you got me anon

>>52809216

Greenmarine draw some elfdar tiddies, baybee!

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Does anyone know what that thing coming out of his nose is supposed to be? I see them all over the genestealer cult models, but haven't read anything that actually says what those are.

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>>52809612
And my Guard blob handily won the assault staying in combat so they would avoid enemy shooting. This is pretty much when things got good for me.

>>52809655
Is a Genestealer Chaos Space Marine wtf??

>>52809503
>fortification that are 0-3

I fucking wish! You cant bring Fortifications in a Castellan despite its name.

>>52809612
This was notably sad for me because before we went to lunch I had blocked the Shadowsword's shots with cover so Pask and his buddy would have been fine. I figured I'd see what the Escalation rules were like and they almost did me in overall.

>>52809216
I need Sailor Jupiter (Greyfax) and Sailor Moon (Celestine)

I miss you drawfag

>>52808437
>thinks WAACfags carefully pick which units to use and how and where
>thinks OP armies aren't just pick-and-choose-never-lose
>thinks even optimized Ork lists stand a chance against an Eldar list made from throwing darts at the codex

Nigga u jus went full retard.

>>52809684
My mind farted.

>Skitarii in the art for Castellan
>No AdMech options

GS are a mess rules and lore wise, I mean everyone is fighting chaos, no rules for chaos shit.

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>>52809216
This is glorious

>>52809684
Weird. You could take one of those Formations of fortifactions though, like the Aegis/Bunker one or the Wall of Martyrs.

If you could add one unit (or make up a new one) to your army what would it be?

Personally I'd like to see CSM get some kind of Medusa or Basilisk so I can finally live my Iron Warrior fantasy to its fullest.

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>>52809627

>Silvana was renowned for her altruistic spirit and her stoic faith. She seldom spoke, believing that deeds on the battlefield spoke more of a warrior's devotion than any words. The Sisters of the Argent Shroud likewise rarely speak, and they are famed for their selfless acts of heroism. As such, the Order fields a high number of Celestian and Seraphim squads, their faith a shield as strong as their silver armour and their righteousness a weapon as potent as Bolter fire.

>>52809751
Repressors for my sisters. Possibly church militia too.

>>52809751
Castellax Battle-automata, Psycher powered golems of prospero, they would be a nice addition to my CSM 1ksons.

>>52809742
Those arent formations anon, those are fortifications, you need a fort slot to put those in. Unless I am mistaken but I dont see the 'formation' icon in the datasheet.

>>52809755
Well that is what I meant, not every SoB is purge happy, but everyone is happy to do one from time to time

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>>52809692
>>52809668
Hey I even toned it down too. A 2-5 in Escalation just blows up non superheavies so I nerfed myself. But on my opponents turn three they tried to react to the devestation. They moved their Command Chimera to get some cover from my fire and moved some Sentinels to support the Conscripts with a Chimera turbo boosting to get Behind Enemy Lines. Lucky lascannon killed my Executioner with two sixes in a row and in assault they killed my scions but I managed to win my assault as well.

>>52809751
Proper loot stuff for Ork, or just bring back the 3rd edition loot rules.

Repressor or Old RT Repentias

Proper xeno auxiliaries for Tau, so we can stop the mecha sillyness

>>52809859
What were the RT repentias like?

>Tau nonexistent at Adepticon
>SMs common
>TeeGee complains Tau are the most OP and SMs are weak
Hm... Makes you think

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>>52809817
On my turn three my Guard blob and Chimera moved up advancing to get Behind Enemy Lines as well. My tank commander moved back and my Plasma vets readied themselves to take out a Chimera. Nothing happened in Pyschic phase but shooting was eventful. Pask ended up going down to a battle cannon.

>>52809742
No, those are just a bunch of fortifications that count as a single fortification.

>>52809751
Tough. Either Land Speeder Storms for DA, or better plasma.

>>52809751
I would like for the Emperor's Champion to have his Vows back, all of them.

Sword Brethren Terminators would also be fucking cool, stuff like Terminator unit with Heavy Chainswords and upgrades like getting Power Zweihanders for the whole squad would be bad ass as fuck.

>>52809875
If I was not butt naked in the middle of my break I would look up the rules.

But basically they where a character that you could add to any squad for dern cheap. Their role beside having extra cool gear was to stay in the fight locking the enemy in combat while her sisters retreated safely.

Not sure if they did something once dead but I'm almost sure they did

Is a gravdev squad without a drop pod a bad idea?

I don't have the 35 points, so I am trying to figure out if I need to scrape them out somewhere or if the S&P makes the gravdevs able to footslog

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>>52809893
Vanquisher killed a Sentinel and then three rapid firing plasma guns exploded a Chimera killing many of the Veterans inside.

What was the emperors plan for the cult mechanicus if he hadnt got horused? Would he disbanded them or forced them into atheism via gradual change, or even left them alone?

>>52809751
>GSC
>skyfiring turret on Goliaths or Chimaeras
>add monstrous creature
honestly, what I really want is for guard and 'nids to not be allies come the apocalypse if GSC is your primary detachment.

>>52809921
Centurions? Yes, give them a pod or dont use them.

I guess you could do something with normal devastators like two Grav cannons per squad in a rhino to act as a Grav Razorback.

>>52809960
Yes centurions. I have ML/LC devs atm, but I feel like it's a bit of a waste of their slow & purposeful, and their durability.

The tank hunters they get from IF makes the ML/LC combo good enough to consider. I am just conflicted.

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>>52809924
Also command Chimera got killed by a Volcano cannon. But on my opponents turn they made some progress as well. Used Psychic shriek and killed a bunch of my Guardsmen and Wyvern murdered all of my Plasma Veterans. And charged in a Sentinel to slow me down which my Priest killed with a melta bomb.

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Going to GW to buy my first ever w40k figures tomorrow, is this good?

>>52810052
It's a good place to start, yes.

>>52810052
That's not bad, though you'll have to convert that Librarian, unless there's a biker librarian model I don't know about.

>>52810075
>That's not bad, though you'll have to convert that Librarian, unless there's a biker librarian model I don't know about.
That's a thing I was worried about, I couldn't find any. So I am not sure how I go about it

>>52810052
Some times I forget not everyone plays since the 90's

Yah it is good enough. I probably get a Start Collecting

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>>52810034
On my turn the MVP tank of the game my regular battle tank fired a shell straight through a small,square window on top of the enemy command squad which then rolled four 2s for their cover saves. Melta veterans disembarked and killed a sentinel. And after losing two hullpoints to the Shadowsword my Vanquisher killed their final Russ.

>>52810094
There are no other Start collecting for the DAs besides the chaos/da box, and my friends wanna play tau and eldar. So I don't really feel up to buy it

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how do I fight Horus with orks?

Can someone explain this FAQ to me about grav weaponry?

>Q:How many Hull Points does a vehicle lose when you roll 2 simultaneous sixes when using Graviton weapons?
>A:It loses 3 Hull Points.

Is 3 just a typo?

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>>52810114
Final post anons because I've been spamming the thread.Tried killing all of my melta Veterans with the Wyvern and tried hitting my blob with lasguns too but I held firm.I ran both squads into their deployment zone and to get objective four as my Shadowsword and it's D blast scattered onto the Wyvern and finally finished it. By this point it was 12-10 and I was about to roll my D3 for having three units in their deployment zone. Rolled a one and before I could table the game ended but it was crazy anons. And if anyone else has any game or army pics it would be great to share too.

>>52810162
1st HP is lost for the first 6
2nd HP is lost for the second 6
3rd HP is lost because the vehicle was immobilized by the 1st shot and the second immobilized result from the second shot means it loses another HP.

>>52809632
Glad I could make you giggle anon.

>>52810195
Ah, I didn't realize an immobilize wounds an immobilized target.

So does a model with immunity to immobilize take only 2 wounds?

>>52810085
What you could do is try and find a Space Marine bike online, as well as a Ravenwing upgrade sprue and the DA Veterans sprue for a bunch of hoods and robes, as well as other little bits to make it look like a DA Librarian and a DA bike, paint him blue, and with a black bike, and there you go!

Expensive, but there'sn probably a lot cheaper ways to go about it, I just typed this off the top of my head.

>>52810162
>>52810195
Why are Grav weapons so stupid?

>>52810207
Thanks brother, I will ask at GW too :) There was a DA player working there

>>52810205
Like a Superheavy vehicle? Yes I would assume so but I could be wrong.

>>52810220
Because SM are the darlings of GW and they needed something to keep up with the retardation that is riptides and wraithknights.

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>>52809216
Very nice, thanks

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Getting back into 40K after 7 years, is a full GK list viable?

>>52810114
Do you use "RAW" interpretation of the 5+ cover save from conscripts in front of your tanks? Or do you go with the "It's infantry, they're not going to block anti-tank shots with their face" interpretation?

I'm genuinely curious because I've personally never tried to use it out of fear of looking like an asshole and...well...tanks don't work like that and I like my tanks acting logical.

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>>52809636
I am not him.
>>52809703
I'll see what i can do with this.

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>>52810271
>It's infantry, they're not going to block anti-tank shots with their face

But thats the job of the infantry!

>>52810235
Yeah, but that's not even Intuitive. You land 2 shots and cause 3 hullpoints worth of damage? No wonder they needed a FAQ if this was worded so poorly.

>>52810052
Why a Meltagun and a Missile Launcher? At 500 points I don't think anything particulary heavy will be much of an issue, though the meltagun is actually useful, so that's not an issue. If you're planning on camping objectives with the other tac squad, then the Missile Launcher is fine as well. You have enoug points for 25 points more of upgrades, I'd say give your tac sergeant a Combi-melta to go with the other guy's meltagun, so if you go up against any vehicles or big stuff, you'll effectively have two melta shots for the turn.

>>52810205
You know, sometimes I wonder if I shouldn't take an armored battlegroup just so I can see the look on Skyhammergravhole's face when I reveal armored track guards give me a 4+ save against immobilization.

>>52810309
Not sure what skyhammer is.

I have ML/LC centurion devastators, and I switch to graviton/hurricane bolters if I see a riptide.

>>52808434
>Eldar have never been bad, they haven't always been top tier but they have never been bad or even mid-tier.
5e they were mid tier. In 3.0 they were fuck-power-armour-but-lose-to-horde tier.

>>52810135
>Horus

not 40k

>>52810296
I admit, that picture always get me! But obviously this sort of thing -even if it actually worked- wouldn't apply to kinetic darts or lasers.

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r8

>>52810271
I asked my store manager and he said they don't count as cover but yeah that's how I used to run them. But I would just get camo netting and an Aegis defense line to get 3+ cover.

>>52810318
It's this stupidly good Alpha-Strike that lets you take 2 squads of assault marines that can charge after deep striking alongside Devastators in drop pods that are relentless after deep-striking.

I want you to absorb that for a moment:

Relentless. Deep-Striking. Grav-Cannons.

>>52810344
but how do i do it

>>52810418

Ask Gork (or Mork)

>>52810418
Try like 500 boyz.

WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE NEW PLAGUE MARINES

>>52810634

End of the year, idiot

>>52810556
>>52810503

fuck

is there a way to make a warboss that could take him? or ghazghkull maybe?

>>52810162
No. When an immobilized vehicle suffers an ADDITIONAL immobilize, it immediately suffers an additional hull point. This is why 2 6s from a grav weapon cause 3 hull points of damage.. Because grav weapons automatically immobilize vehicles in addition to their hull point damage.

>>52810713
No, simply tarpit his unit or ignore the deathstar.

>>52810721
I remember the rule in 5th ed that would cause every additional immobilized result to disable turret/sponson-mounts rotation

>>52808902
>at least the Imperium avoids killing civilians unless they absolutely have to. ButThatsWrong.jpg

I don't think 40k is for you.

>>52810380
Wow that's pretty strong. Good thing they are doing away with formations eh?

>>52810721
Yes, that is clear now thank you.

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So here's a 2000pt list for a friendly game this Sunday. My space marine army isn't that big (1 rhino, no land raiders).

Think this is good enough? I'm trying for maximum usefulness out of what i got.

In the Blood Ravens, why does Diomedes lead the chapter honour guard instead of the chapter master?

I have a question about re-rolls on blasts.

Can you choose to reroll the first shot whenever you wish? If not what are the conidtions that allow you to do the reroll?

>>52808969
Meganobz are just Nobz in mega armour. What's next, terminators in power armour? Heavy Weapons Squads without heavy weapons?

How did the Ork feel when it was cold outside?

Killy

>>52810882
Can I reroll the first shot if it lands entirely on my own units? What about if it had some of my units and some of the enemy's units?

Can you only reroll if zero units are hit?

>>52807811
The blue grey Guard are almost exactly like my guys. I paint my tanks like that except I break up the blue and black with a streak of celestra grey. I even have Penal legion except I kit bashed Catachans, cadians, Chaos marauders, slaneshi riders, and Empire militia and flagellates. Looks like a fun game, the only other Guardsman I get to play against is a completely unpainted power gamer.

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Is this any better?

>>52808878
>5 Sisters are 160 points
>4+ save
>only 1 special weapon
>literally no reason to go beyond 5 models

Holy fuck these are terrible

Can someone please provide a link to Chinese recasters? Money is tight. I will make sure they are contacted appropriately . Thank you in advance.

>>52811181
I thought chinaman wasn't taking new clients

>>52811201
Which one? There's like eight.

>>52811181
Look on r/yoyhammer, not posting contact info because there are legitimate GW reps and employees that lurk for it.

>>52811238
Appreciate it. I am freaking broke here but my heart desires cool forgeworld stuff and I got my tax return in so huzzah

>>52811007
Power gaming guard players: For when your determined to miss the point of not just the game, but also faction itself!

>>52811272
How do you even powergame guard these days? the codex is pretty shitty.

>>52808501
>Even just an overhaul for Tyranids/Orks to fix their point values and give them options
Zoggin' hell, just give Orks some of the shit they took away and Ork players would be content. Seriously, give Orks the ability to actually loot vehicles/weapons again (hell, keep it strictly Imperium looting again if you want) instead of this standardized Deffgun/Looted Wagon nonsense, and the Ork players would be a bunch of happy boyz. (Seriously, bring back the 3rd edition Looting rules.)

Let's be honest tho: if there's any factions that need a major overhaul to be viable armies again it's SoB and DEldar.

>>52809925
I imagine he would leave them alone. Their belief in the Omnissiah (which he personally claimed to be) and machine spirits (which are real) is just intrinsic to the work they do, and if the Ad Mech stopped working, the Imperial war machine would stop.

>>52810418
Have you tried kicking Horus in the dick yet? A certain black orc said a swift kick to the groin followed by a good headbutting does wonders against Satan-wannabes/Chaos Champions.

>>52811258
I've made orders because some things are just absurd to have to buy in bulk. Pricing on unit type and not model count is fucking bullshit.

>>52811352
i sent in a warboss with meganobz, they got shit on

>in spite a gluing mishap, getting my very first squad of Skitarii Rangers done (the legs don't seem to fit the torso)
>down to the last one; the legs must be his by process of elimination, but they're the wrong way around
Fuck. What do?

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can anyone link me to the yvraaine vs nurgle story? where can I buy it?

>>52811443
rip them off before the glue fully sets and follow the instructions to reassemble.
I did the same thing with my first set.

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Can I get some advice on how to spend the remaining points for this 1500 list?

Or, if any unit in this seems out of place I am open to changes.

I haven't put any additional wargear on anything so I have the 34 points left.

I was thinking deathwind launcher, extra devastator meat shield, auspex on librarian

>>52811443
>>52811464
Fuck so it wasn't just me? I swear the torsos just never quite fit on some of those legs

>>52811539
They dont. Some legs fit other torsos but some legs only fit one of them. You have to use the instructions. Trust me, I probably have 80 of the fuckers now.

Thoughts on GK list? 2 strike formations with 2 Inquisitors. Warlord lib, Grand Master, and Inqusitor with Liber Heresius going with pallys. Other Inquisitor and ML 2 lib go with termies. Basically a shitload of psycannons

+ HQ +

Grand Master [Nemesis force sword, Psycannon, The Soul Glaive (Replace Melee weapon)]

Librarian [Domina Liber Daemonica, Nemesis Daemon hammer, Psyker [ML 3], Warlord]

+ Elites +

Paladin Squad
Apothecary [Nemesis force sword]
Paladin [Two Nemesis falchions]
Paladin (banner) [The Nemesis Banner]
Paladin (special weapon) [Nemesis force sword, Psycannon]
Paladin (special weapon) [Nemesis force sword, Psycannon]

+ Troops +

Strike Squad [4x Grey Knight (sword)]
Justicar [Nemesis force sword]

+ Fast Attack +

Interceptor Squad [3x Interceptor (sword)]
Interceptor (incinerator) [Incinerator]
Interceptor Justicar [Nemesis Daemon hammer]

Interceptor Squad [3x Interceptor (sword)]
Interceptor (incinerator) [Incinerator]
Interceptor Justicar [Nemesis force halberd]

+ HQ +

Librarian [Cuirass of Sacrifice (Replace TDA), Nemesis warding stave, Psyker [ML 2]]

+ Troops +

Terminator Squad [3x Terminator (sword)]
Terminator (psycannon) [Nemesis force sword, Psycannon]
Terminator Justicar [Nemesis force sword]

+ Fast Attack +

Interceptor Squad [3x Interceptor (sword)]
Interceptor (incinerator) [Incinerator]
Interceptor Justicar [Teleport homer, Two Nemesis falchions]

+ HQ +

Ordo Malleus Inquisitor [Liber Heresius, Psyker (Mastery Level 1)]
Terminator Armour [Nemesis Daemon hammer, Psycannon]

Ordo Malleus Inquisitor [Psyker (Mastery Level 1)]
Terminator Armour [Nemesis Daemon hammer, Psycannon]

>>52811299
SoB are fine power wise, they just lack variety. DEldar aren't quite as bad off as Tyranids and Orks, since there stuff isn't too overpriced, it's just overly reliant on Cover and that's a major weakness. If they had more ways to get Invuln saves or other weird ways of avoiding getting shot at, they'd be fine.

>>52811272
>>52811297
I know a STEM fag engineer who is a total bro, but fails to understand lots of concepts outside of what can literally be done. Basically just because something is technically possible doesn't mean it is truly effective. Some idiot on some forums we go on talks about an airship with a 20 inch gun. I go into reason why even if that was effective by some BS future stuff it would still be retarded because of tactics, doctrine, ect. STEM friend just refutes it on mathematical grounds crunching a bunch of numbers. I tell you if he played 40k he would power game everything. Wouldn't need to be fluffy or good or make sense I'd just need to work.

>>52811007
That's awesome. Sounds like you did what I did, but better. Someone in the store said there was another guy named Sam that did something similar to us with the Conscripts/Penal Legion and color choices. Looks like there are a few of us out there with great opinions.

>>52811603
It would*

>>52811299
>>52811581
You know what I'd like to see for Dark Eldar? A Fortification that's just a literal void of darkness. Mobile, like the Tau fortification that got made, but instead of being something you stand on it's just this inky black wall that you have creep across certain spots of the battlefield to block Line of Sight.

>>52811297
Emperor's wrath artillery formation.
>Wyverns re roll to hit and wound with ignore cover
>Basilisks with re roll to hit and ignore cover
>Techpriest to fix broken artillery

It's fucking brutal. Anything you point at just dies. The tears of jetbike players are delicious when your basilisk deletes an entire squad with a well placed pie plate since he gets no fucking junk or armour saves. Feels so good. Make sure to take a blob or two to wrap it in and cap objectives once you have deleted the enemy army.

>Terminator deathstar?
>That's nice
>Look at these wyverns
>Now roll all your saves please
>Oh there's a few alive next turn
>All your saves again please

>>52811410
Clearly you weren't kicking hard enough, ya grot!

... Now I suddenly want to have Ghazghkull walk up behind Abaddon while the Despoiler's taunting the broken body of some Imperial champion and Abbadon a swift kick to the crotch.

>>52811297
The guard codex is great! Nearly perfect internal-balancing with the exception of the elites slots. The problem is it's an edition out of date and 7th Edition had a bad case of the power creep. Formations weren't even a thing when IG6E came out, there was no Mechanicus, I don't believe there was grav, and Tau weren't firing four times a turn. That means being mass-glanced to death wasn't an issue. And the orders system made the infantry ridiculously good for cost.

We're not shit, you guys just got some cool toys while we sat neglected with just our basic rules and the CAD to our name.

>>52811703
Can't you just play Cadians to get their formations?

>>52811703
I wish we had some decent elite choices. If ogryns/bullgryns were cheaper I would totally run them. But fuck they are so expensive and the only other elites that I would consider is maybe one squad of scions deepstriking with meltas or plasmas. But again they are so expensive for what they do.

I mean, I run Celestine because there isn't any decent centrepiece choices for guard short of superheavies.

>>52808383
its possible to balance all the armies now in 7th edition, as we speak!

>Proper points allocation

>>52811471
shameless bump

Hey dudes, looking to make a small 1,000 point casual space marine army and was hoping for some feedback.

Chapter Tactics: Carcharodonds

HQ:

Tyberos, the Red Wake
-Will join assault terminators.

Elites:

Ironclad Dreadnought
-Seismic Hammer w/ Melta
-For second arm, Power Fist or Hurricane Bolter?
-DT: Drop Pod

Troops:

Tac Squad
-1x Marine w/ Melta Gun
-3x Marine w/ Chainsword/Bolt Pistol
-Sarge w/ Power Sword/Bolt Pistol
-DT: Razorback w/ TL Assault Cannon, Dozer Blade


Terminator Assault Squad (Red Brethren)
-5x Termie w/ LC
-DT-LR Redeemer

Fast Attack:

Attack Bike
-Multi Melta

>>52811603
I'm an engineer myself, and have always been facinated by Airships. Fun fact: They're one of the only machines on earth that directly benefits strength-wise as they grow bigger. Most constructs, even animals, grow relatively weaker with size. To the point that an Elephant can kill itself tripping over a rock but a Cat can survive a multistory fall.

Airships reverse that, because they're natural buoyancy and the fact that the outside air pressure matches the inner air pressure, and their load capacity increases with respect to volume instead of cross-sectional area like a car's axle or a plane's wing. Filled with Helium and using modern materials, they're stupid durable against punctures and impacts. But perhaps craziest of all is their ability to (with hybridization) carry hundreds of times more than any airplane, anywhere. I hear the military is looking at them again for drones, since drones are defenseless as hell anyways.

Of course everyone just looks at the Hindenburg and says "Lol! What a stupid idea! Now lets cram ourselves into a tiny metal tube filled with volatile liquids and hurl ourselves across the ocean at 400 kph!"

>>52811839
Hmm...seems pretty good overall. You've got a decent amount of melta for taking out vehicles, and some nice assault Punch. I would say the powerfist on the Ironclad, if only because I think it'll help more than the Hurricane Bolter.

I feel like your model count is a bit low, thanks to having the Land Raider, Ironclad, and Terminators eating up a lot of points.

>>52811725
It helps. But it's sort of a mid-edition patch that elevates us without really boosting us to the stupid levels of effectiveness other armies get. Emp's Wrath being the sole exception.

Look at the Emp's Fist: +1 BS, rerolls to vehicle damage, and a rather impractical ramming/tank shork bonus.
Compare to Riptide Wing: Only needs 3 riptides to our 5, no taxes, and lets the Tau shoot FOUR TIMES!
How about the Emp's Blade? Only new rule over CAD is preferred enemy (controlling objectives). Space Marines equivalent? Free transports!

But again, I don't see this as a guard problem. I see this as an "Everyone else gets power-creeped to hell" problem. Us horde armies in particular: Guard, Nids, Orks, are all really hurting for some love, here!

>>52809172
Thanks. They still need some work, but I'm happy with the theme. I really hope they come back with Penal Legion squads. I miss my outflanking buddies.

So about the admech..how come they have so much freedom to do what they want? why are they allowed to keep secrets from the Imperium?
Sorry im new but the more i read about them the more i think they would like to be on their own

>>52812024
They can't exist on their own, just like the Imperium can't exist with out them. So they both just put up with each other for their own survival.

>>52812024
Because the Admech is an empire within an empire and its essential for the Imperium as they are the only organization that seeks the reconstruction of lost technology while mainting everything technological.

>>52812024
The admech may make all the weapons, but the imperium provides the hands to hold them.

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>>52811567
I like it, when I first saw GK I thought interceptors would see alot of play with teleport homers for their terminators/paladins.

>>52812104
Forgot to mention the list is 1850 on the nose. Interceptors are great, always felt they were underrated. Mobility and a S6 AP4 flamer is nice. The biggest drawback to the homers is they have to on the board before you can use them to deepstrike, but since I can't use the turn 1 deepstrike taking the two inquisitors it works out. Also have the option of scouting from the liber heresius.

>>52811916
Have any recommendations? I was thinking about maybe dropping the LR and putting a locator beacon on my Drop Pod, but then they are limited in where they can go and have to hope they dont get shot off the board.

>>52812024
Think of the imperium like the Austrian Empire. The Austrians post-Holy Roman Empire entered a steady decline. They failed to develop like other nations (like Prussia, now called Germany) and the many different ethnic groups the empire encompassed were slowly growing restless as the lower classes were exposed to modern concepts like self-governance.

The Austrian Empire cracked down on some (Which the imperium constantly does to rebellious planets), and made concessions to others. Eventually, the Austrian Empire become "Austria-Hungary", which is sort of like calling the current Human Empire the "Imperium-Mechanicum": Two distinct political entities that acted as one to the outside world but internally were very much fractured and prone to fighting. Never quite a civil war, but lots of power plays. And at least together they are a superpower: If they break up they risk being destroyed by the Space-Ottomans (Chaos? I guees?) and the Space-Germans (Tau I suppose).

Warning: All information recalled from a History class taken 5 years ago. Please consult your history textbook for a more accurate telling of the decline of Austria.

>>52811844
Its not always fun and games with airships, it wasn't just the Hindenburg that scared people. Look at the R1O1 incident. People don't like them because they are unstable sometimes.

I bought a bunch of used tau drones, but with no flight stands.

Should I base them on 25mm or 32mm?

>>52812165
It would be a big save on points and would open up other options. Deep-striking them near the drop pod and having them wait out of sight for a turn may be the better option, plus it will allow them and the Ironclad to support eachother. I would recommend giving some of them Stormshields in that case though to help with survivability.

That would be an extra 200 points though, which could be put towards another tactical squad, or perhaps something else in a drop pod to add even more backline threats for your opponent to worry about.

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Looking to go to an 1850 points ITC tournament this weekend, how does my list look?

>>52811948
Yea, I not to mention the infantry formations in the Cadia codex are insane. Re-Rolling the 1s on lasguns is nice though, especially with Stromtroopers. Although it is kinda muted by the fact they are really out done by vets in the Guard Codex.

>>52812173
>All information recalled from a History class taken 5 years ago.
Am actual historian, can confirm this is a correct analogy. Though it's worth noting that even within other countries, such as Prussia, they had to do the same things to maintain the state.

>>52811844
wait, as in a 20 inch naval rifle on a dirigible?

Is there a copy or Raiders of Commorough somewhere?

I can't see it in the megas, and I don't wanna drop the $50 or whatever it is they're asking just to look at paint schemes.

>>52812205
Only problem is they can't have any Storm Shields due to the Red Brethren rule. But if I take another troop choice, I could just take a standard Terminator Assault Squad...

I'll try putting something together.

Are there any assault transports for Inquisition other than the fucking land raider? I really want to run a melee band but fuck shelling out for all those land raider points.

>>52811624
It's a great idea, I love boots on the ground Guard. I have already completed a blob if 50 normal guys and the 2nd was Penal. I'd post them if I wasn't at work.

>>52812313

No. You pay 250+ points to transport your melee deathstar, just like everyone else.

>>52811764
I agree that Ogryn and Bullgryn are overcosted. They are tough and durable but they do like no damage. If Ripper guns were 18-24 inches and had Rending they would be great for their cost. If Bullgryns grenade launchers were 18-24 inches with Shred they would be worth it. Also if power mauls and Brute shields were a free upgrade or a 5 point upgrade they would be worth it.

Scions I think are nicely priced. Maybe 10 points cheaper would be good. They are one of the best units for our lack of mobility though. They nab me line breaker and far away objectives often.

>>52812347
I wouldn't mind paying 250 points if it got me something decent, but land raiders are fucking terrible for their cost.

>>52809877
You can't participate with unpainted models :^)

>>52812382
My LGS does that for "events". Like, on tuesday which is 40k night anyone can play, but for specific events you have to have them painted.

I really appreciate that, as it tends to weed out a lot of jerks.

>>52812259
Yup. It was a low fantasy 1940-50s e-regime RP game one of my friends was involved in and we were reading about it. They put in airships that fly on some mystery fantasy gas and walkers. Everybody is ok with it until the most powerful faction, who are conveniently dog people, got in a battle and wrecked the shit out of some dudes in an "airship battle". My friend was the one of the few human factions in a small Yugoslavia type country that was Balkinized by the fur fag people. Worried he inquired about these airships and found out they had 20 inch guns. Apparently the only way to kill them according to the GM was building enormous AA gun turrets, spending tons of money to get missile tech, or building airships. Hilariously bad.