Pathfinder General /pfg/

>>52800706
Is that a hole in the middle

>>52800706
Gay Skeleton Parade.

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how would you stat a playable giant?

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On a lighter topic, have your characters put any buns in any ovens recently?

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>>52800955

>spoiler

Actually yes, Honey glazed buns to be exact!

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>>52800955

>>52800706

Basically pushed them into killing a newborn hill giant after breaking into the parents' lair, with graphic and abundant depiction of the baby giant's behaviour. Fuckers were getting onto my nerves.

>>52800872
I'd probably make a DSP-tier monster class.
It depends on the type though. Unlike, say, different Skeletons, there's a pretty big difference between a Frost Giant and a Storm Giant.

>>52800706
One player had a necromancer in RotRL and raised a female ogre as a zombie, then used her to beat her own children to death. Got several surprise rounds of "Mama? Mama stop!"

>>52800955
Nope!

Are you volunteering...?

>>52801068
Potentially. Are you cute?

>>52800872
Unearthed Arcana, or was it Arcana Unearthed, had a playable giant race, might do something like that but expanded.

Have them start Medium with Powerful Build, they can take levels in a Giant class to get bigger and stronger, maybe an option partway through to manifest abilities according to specific types of giants.

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>>52801064
Fucking brutal.

>>52800967

the worst thing is, i think that response is in character.

>>52801089
I like to think so.

>>52800955
Workin' on it! tonight

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>>52800955
Nope, but their player did

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>>52801213
fukken normalfags

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Reposting

Males [ ]
$ Romulus Nohrm (27 years): 6' 6", 210 lbs || 198 cm, 95.3 kg
$ Allanz Gremund (18 years): 5' 11", ??? || 180 cm, ???
$ Sinh (???): ???
$ † Lucius Nacht (18 years): 6' 3", 200 lbs || 190.5 cm, 90.7 kg
$ Dr. Linus Lux (???): ???
$ ‡ Fahd Lutfi (26 years): 4' 7", 97 lbs || 139.7 cm. 44 kg
$ ※ Raine: ...
$ "King" Angelo Sette (???): ???
$ Alkurith Rekanthor (38 years): 4' 8", 54 lbs || 144.2 cm, 24.5 kg
$ Serax (???): ???

† Six foot three as a freshman and weighing in at a /fit/ 200 pounds? Is this Chad Thundercock's bigger cousin?
‡ The shortest girl is half a foot taller than him, and the shortest girl with an actual body is almost a full foot taller.
※ I dunno if you realized mate but your character sheet is an F-list...

Females [ ]
$ Emilia Ivanov (20 years): 5' 6", 135 lbs || 167.6 cm, 61 kg
$ Yamelia (???): ???
$ Salacia Mithlaeth (RIP): 5' 8", 160 lbs || 172.3 cm, 72.6 kg
$ Chiundra (315 years): 5' 6", 145 lbs || 167.6 cm, 65.8 kg
$ † Ecaterina (29 days): 7' 3" / 5' 4", 0 lbs || 221.0 cm / 162.6 cm, 0 kg
$ Cijiska (???): ???
$ Umbranae (???): 7' 2.5", ∞ lbs || 220 cm, ∞ kg
$ Ingrid Proteah (31 years): 5'9"
$ Kanna (∞): ???
$ ‡ Konja K. Snusel (17 years): ???
$ Olivia Favillina (23 years): 5' 5", 115 lbs || 165.1 cm, 52.2 kg
$ Helvetica (28 years): 5', 0 lbs || 152.4 cm, 0 kg
$ Kenna Gunnhildr (19 years): 5' 6", 130 lbs || 167.6 cm, 59.0 kg
$ Aeshma (23 years): 5' 11", 125 lbs || 177.8 cm , 56.7 kg
$ Calesedria (???): ???
$ Rhyisjir the Burned (Pending): Pending

† She's the size of a petite hill giant, is this even Medium?
‡ probably damn fucking heavy

Tallest
Ecaterina (221 cm)
Umbrane (220 cm)
Romulus (198 cm)
Lucius (190.5 cm)

Heaviest
Umbrane (∞)
Konja (~∞)
Romulus (95.3 kg)
Lucius (90.7 kg)

Lightest
Helvetica (0)
Ecaterina (0)
Alkurith (24.5 kg)
Fahd (44 kg)

Shortest
Fahd (139.7 cm)
Alkurith (144.2 cm)
Helvetica (152.4 cm)
Olivia (165.1 cm)

Oldest
Chiundra (315 years)

Youngest
Ecaterina (29 days)

>ywn Macross love triangle with Kyras and Andrik

It's not fair!

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>>52800967
>>52800955
What a coincidence, so did I.

>>52800955
I want to stick a bun in Seska's oven!

>>52801273
Ameiko or Quinn?

>>52800872
Open your copy of the Advanced Race Guide. Realise that Reach is an advanced trait, therefore you need to have a budget of > 10 RP, but if you want it to be playable out of the box, you probably need to stay as close to 11 as you can. Dwarves are 11 RP so you SHOULD be fine at 11.

Type: Humanoid (Giant)
Size: Large (7 RP)
Speed: Normal Speed
Ability Scores: Specialized (+2 Str, +2 Con, -2 Wis, 1 RP), together with size mods the array adds up to +4 Str, -2 Dex, +2 Con, -2 Wis
Languages: either Standard or Xenophobic
Advanced Traits: Reach (1 RP)

We're at 9 RP. Pick 2 RP of flavorful shit and you're done. Healthy? Mountain-born + Plagueborn? Unnatural? Carrion Sense + Plagueborn? Stoneseer? Stonecunning + Stonesinger? Gatecrasher? Whatever strikes your fancy.

>>52801285
You humans all look alike to me, especially from behind. Be more specific.

>>52801291
>actually being balanced
Stop.

>>52801285
I want to put a bun in Quinn's oven!

>>52801313
>>52801285
Who the fuck is Quinn

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>>52801064

Fucking hell,man.

>>52801064
>>52801322
>sympathy for Ogres
They'd do much, much worse to you.

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>>52801064

>>52801322
Best/worst part is this player is normally all about paladibs but wanted to try evil. Seemed to just get bored with it though and commited this atrocity by not paying attention to the game. Such casual cruelty, it's a shame he went back to playing LG everywhere.

>>52801102
>>52801322

If you knew about those Ogres you`d have no sympathy.

They are sadistic hillbilly-horror style cannibals.

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>>52801447

>>52801261
>The Abyss Knight will never sheathe his exotic blade in your Abyss

Why was I born?

>>52801460

What... What is the meaning of this? Are you trying to elf me?

>>52801447
This in fact, if these are the ogres I'm thinking about n RotRL, the fat mama ogre is a necromancer who fucks, kills, raises, and then fucks again her own incest babiess on a regular basis.

Now that I think about this though, how DOES an Ogre get wizard levels?

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>>52801510
Maybe

>>52801514
She probably ate a bunch of Wizards and somehow absorbed their knowledge like a demented ghoul

Is there any class, not race, that grants the outsider type?

>>52801528
Monks become Native Outsiders at like 20 or something.

>>52801504

That sounds painful!

>>52801514

I think she only kills and eats her female offspring. Her Zombie sons were killed by other shit, like the local rangers.

>>52801528
I think one of the big three casters had some way to go Outsider
I forget though

>>52801537
It hurts a little at first, but the ecstasy soon overwhelms all other sensations!

what's an interesting min/max'd build that isn't optimized for DPR? Or even for combat?

hardmode: no full casters

>>52801544
She does that too, but I could've sworn that she fucks some of her zombie attendants or it's very heavily implied she does.

She's also too fucking fat to move without casting flight.

What happened to Paizo? This shit was bananas, but in a good way.

>>52801555

But he's packing a Nodachi when you'd expect a Dueling Sword, that's almost a full size larger than what you're used to! What if he crits you on the first round?

>>52801557
>interesting
>no full casters
you lost me

>>52801560

They moved from "dark&edgy" towards "look at how progressive we are", though a bit of that was always there.

How good is their newest Adventure Path, the Lovecraftian one? That certainly offers a lot of room for similiar themes.

>>52801560

Paizo drank the kool-aid and decided they would play it family friendly and fan safe after 3.5e got scoured by the news.

It started as early as Second Darkness, though I'd also make the argument that they only truly fell from grace after making Jade Regent.

>>52801560

They got criticized by some Turbo-sjws and have been apologizing ever since with all of their adventures becoming lukewarm, with a swift death replacing any forms of torture, rape or anything approaching nausea for the reader.

They're too afraid to write out real villains anymore. Most of the worst things their villains have done are merely implied now, and left to the table's GM to use his/her imagination for. An easy out for the company.

>>52801576
>What if he crits you on the first round?

You should hope so! A man that can consistently give you crits is worth greedily hoarding away for future use!

>>52801259
Let me snooze, ruse ooze.

>>52801591
>It started as early as Second Darkness
Isn't this the same AP where you need to disguise yourself as sexy drow female maids or some shit to infiltrate the Underdark?
>Jade Regeant
Care to explain?

Also what is with /pfg/'s 180 on Jade Regeant? From my understanding it was one of the worse adventure paths.
>>52801607
>, rape or anything approaching nausea for the reader.
I don't recall rape coming up at all in any modules explicitly. There is one istance where a Lust Spawn in Godsmouth Heresy will try to drag away any K.O/Killed PC to "have it's way with before killing and consuming".

>>52801536
Was hoping for before 20, like, 10 or so

>>52801549
Itd have to gestalt with Oracle.

If Overlewd were to close right now and you could only choose one (1) male app to get in, who would you choose? Anyone who applied with a male app is not welcome to speak.
My pick: Raine solely for being an LGfag so he can be ruined by the Evil and Neutral-Leaning-Evil girls.

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>>52801766
>LG
>Overlewd
That's stupid -
>it's real
o shit

>>52801766
Seconding Raine. He needs to get tamed by monstergirl cock.
Nobody can beat the cock.

>>52801796
AKA Guaranteed Pick.
So a LG Paladin, a Succubed, a three head dragon, Zealot-chan, and the Elvis Ghoul walk into a damage.

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http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/combat/#TOC-Throw-Splash-Weapon

Is anything stopping a character from targeting a midair grid intersection?

>>52801860
>3 headed dragon
>elvis
Doubt.png

>burned
Meh.

>>52801868
In the first sentence.

"A splash weapon is a ranged weapon that breaks on impact, splashing or scattering its contents over its target and nearby creatures or objects. "

>Breaks on impact

>Midair impact

>>52801875
But you don't deny the first?

Succbed and LG Paladin are confirmed picks?

>>52801889
I dunno about the LG Paladin. It's either Guarenteed or Guarenteed Out, it honestly depends on how funny Maximum Sleep finds the idea of Maximum Moralfag tagging along with such nice people as the Universal Waterbed, AWAKEN MY MASTERS, Undead, and A God I Am.

>>52801648
>I don't recall rape coming up at all in any modules explicitly.

Eh, one of the Characters in Skull and Shackles has rape in her backstory. The Hook-Handed female Wizard what works for Harrigan, I don't remember her name. But the PCs are unlikely to ever remember that.
I think there was a second enemy caster with rape in their backstory in Shackles, but I'm less certain about that one. The one with a tattoo map on her back.

And finally, in Jade you encounter a room where there are Ulfen 'having their way with a thrall'.
Thralls are slaves and are expected to help the PCs during the combat, so it's probably a safe bet to say it was rape.

>>52801945
I remember. Tatoo-magus girl. She got her teeth ripped out by a pirate to "make herself more useful" when she was a slave girl.

She then charmed some sahugin and gets fucked by them on the regular.

>>52801945
The trick is that "having their way" can technically mean any number of things, from rape to beating to forced tickling to just bullying.

Compare that to Thistletop in RotRL, where the bugbear is explicitly described as surrounded by a goblin harem he was just fucking and even has a "heavy club" as a weapon.

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>>52801888

A flimsy flavor limitation that can be overcome by explaining how your alchemist's bombs (or whatnot) can, at the moment of being prepared, be rigged as air burst explosives.

Fireballs seem perfectly capable of targeting a midair grid intersection.

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>>52801994

>>52801990
>She got her teeth ripped out by a pirate to "make herself more useful" when she was a slave girl.
Wow rude

>>52801766
>implying he wouldn't smite evil
>with his dick

>>52801994
I have ever seen anyone use "have their way with" used in a context that didn't involve sex or rape.

>>52802027
Look here
He's a Human Paladin. Against someone like Konja, any Succubus, or either of the Ghosts, he'd get his shit pushed in.

1pp

I'm trying to build an infiltrator that could possibly walk into a room and try to take out as many foes as possible in a first surprise round.

DM ruling: finesse weapons can just be used with DEX, no feat required.

I realize this has a very limited Arcane Pool

Half Elf, 25 point buy

STR: 10 DEX: 14 CON: 12 INT: 19 WIS: 10 CHA: 14

Traits:
Magical Knack, Extremely Fashionable (Bluff), Carefully Hidden, Umbral Unmasking

1. Alchemist 1, Vivisectionist (Mindchemist?)
Mutagen, Brew Potion, Sneak Attack 1d6, Alchemy, Skill Focus: Bluff (possibly disguise for Rakshasa Eldritch Heritage)

2. Wizard 1, Exploiter Wizard, Elf favored class bonus Admixture, Arcane Pool of 3/4
Potent Magic

3. Wizard 2, 1 use of Versatile Evocation, Arcane Pool of 4/5
Accomplished Sneak Attacker (2d6)

4. Wizard 3, Arcane Pool of 4/6
INT: 20

5. Wizard 4 (2 uses of Versatile Evocation, Arcane Pool of 5/7)
Spell Specialization (Fiery Shuriken: 1 more possible sneak attack per round)

6. Wizard 5, Arcane Pool of 5/8
Rime Spell, Familiar

7. Sleepless Detective 1
Additional Traits: Student of Philosophy, Reactionary (?)
Sneak Attack (3d6), Canny Sleuth, Forensic Thaumaturgy


8. Arcane Trickster 1-10


Future Feats:
School Understanding (Admixture)
Spell Perfection
Quicken Spell
Dimensional Slide?
Heighten Spell?
Improved Spell Spezialization?
Bloodline Development?
Eldritch Heritage?
Empower Spell (DM has stated that if enemies can save for half the sneak attack damage from Surprise Spells, then empower spell can increase the sneak attack damage as well)


Thoughts?

Would it be better just straight up as Evocation School Wizard (Admixture)?

>>52801259
>Ecaterina is the tallest female
>Helvetica is the shortest female
ASYMMETRIC PHANTOM DOCKING
W H E N
H
E
N

>>52802005
Fireball: "You point your finger and determine the range (distance and height) at which the fireball is to burst. A glowing, pea-sized bead streaks from the pointing digit and, unless it impacts upon a material body or solid barrier prior to attaining the prescribed range, blossoms into the fireball at that point. An early impact results in an early detonation. "

So if fireball hits something first, then yeah it goes boom. Alchemist fire isn't magical. If you're rigging it to explode first, and can explain to the DM exactly how, then I don't see why not.

>>52801945

Shackles is full of rape or rape victims, the cabin girl Harrigan uses in Book 1 is a 13 year old girl, there's the tattoo chick that was raped as a teen and became the exotic cocksleeve of Deep Ones, and then you have that one girl in the tavern scene of... I think Book 3 that explicitly panics when she sees someone because it triggers her memories as a sex slave as a teenager.

Lots of underage rape going on in that AP.

>>52801259
Let me play my cello, mellow jell-o.

>>52801259
Anything under 8ft tall is still medium, yes.

>>52801259
LET ME SNOOZE, RUSE OOZE

>>52801504
>...unless you PM the bastard

>>52801528
The only classes I've found that grant it before 20 are the Daivrat and Demoniac prestige classes, both at 17.

>>52800955
No, and if he did his image would be ruined.

>>52800955
Mine might be about to, if the local hamlet doesn't have any night tea

>>52802364
Is the outsider type that powerful?

>>52802382
>he doesn't use condoms
Enjoy your burning piss.

>>52802407
Best case scenario, I've still got a dose of bachelor snuff. Condoms are above my pay grade and hard to find in the right size.

>>52802407

>Implying Hamlets are festering puddles of disease

You're thinking of cities, ye olde Hamlet might have a village bicycle, but the seat's only going to be sticky, not spicy.

>>52802407
Condoms are for martialfags without disease immunity or ability to cast remove disease.

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>>52802440
>Condoms are above my pay grade and hard to find in the right size.

>hard to find in the right size.

Sure buddy, and I'm the King of Kyonin.

>>52802044
Please respond.

>>52802456
Hey now, let's be fair, not just any town is going to have condoms sized for a pixie.

>>52801259
You forgot the gnoll, anon

>>52802407
>Not only fucking women you've deflowered yourself.

>>52802466
But I'm playing a huma-oh.

Touche.

>>52802391
I mean, if you want to be an outsider, you could just play as an Aasimar/Tiefling/etc. and get the type at level 1. For classes, the whole "ascend to a higher state of being" seems to be reserved for capstones, which is kind of understandable.

>>52802440
Are there even actual condoms? Or do people just default to good old-fashioned sheep intestines?

>>52802492
I'm copy-pasting someone else's work from last thread

>>52802531
>Are there even actual condoms?

Condoms don't exist, it's either pull-out or have some contraceptives ready.

>>52802531
The latter might be available, but the former would probably be some kind of Alkenstar-/gnomish-specific luxury item.

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>>52802546
>gnomish-specific luxury item.

What makes you think the Gnomes are interested in making something like that? Warcraft Gnomes are the inventors, Pathfinder Gnomes are more like... Creepy little hedonists.

>>52802552
I don't know man, Pathfinder seems to still just lump "invention" in as a gnome schtick.

>>52802546
>>52802531
Condoms have been a thing since ancient Rome/Egypt.

If people can make fucking alchemical lightning, zombies, and oozes. Then making a dick sheet probably shouldn't be too hard.

>>52802541
Condoms have been a thing since like 100 B.C.E

>>52802575
There are more targets to test prototypes of alchemical fires and animate dead spells than your dicks. You normally only have one.

>>52802594
*1000

Granted they were made out of linin and dried intestines.

>>52802575
>Then making a dick sheet probably shouldn't be too hard.

We're talking about a world where people still ride horses, still use boats and still shit in the woods, you're giving Golarion way too much slack for a setting where arcane wonders are only concentrated in very specific areas.

>>52802594

>BCE

Your average adventurer or village won't have access to or even the thought of producing condoms as we know they used to, if you want to fuck a girl safe and easy you're going to be snorting that Bachelor's Snuff (or brewing some Night Tea) like a normal human bean.

>>52802595
There are plenty of dicks out there.

Also healing spells.

>>52802609
No anon, people knew how to do condoms and abortions / contraceptive medicines (medical ones, not kicking a girl in the womb) long before medieval society was a thing.

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>>52802546
>>52802552

In the adventure "The Harrowing," there is an area that has been sealed off in a timeless stasis for many thousands of years.

That area contains a 19th-century-style carnival, replete with unicycles (which were invented in the 19th century). And if there is the technology for unicycles, there must be the technology for bicycles as well.

As far as I am aware, Golarion in the present has no unicycles or bicycles, which means that Azlant and Thassilon were more advanced than present-day Golarion even with purely mundane technology.

>>52802609
And I think you're underestimating Golarion a great deal. The setting is still a great deal more advanced than you're average medieval setting and I'm not just talking about Alkenstar.
>Arcane Wonders
Alchemical Items and people of the alchemist profession are incredibly fucking common though.
>bachelors snuff
Still wouldn't protect you against disease.

>>52802616
>Also healing spells.

Growing back your dick is a very hefty healing spell, one most Clerics won't know. You gotta be what, level 13 to cast Regenerate? Most people at that level are the leaders of a kingdom's church, not going town to town healing dicks.

>>52802640
>Still wouldn't protect you against disease.

That's why you do a little thing I like to call, "don't stick your dick in strange women." It's very useful, especially for Adventurers!

>>52802632

And that's why I'm not denying there are abortion drugs and/or contraceptives (Night Tea and Bachelor's Snuff are the most famous examples.)

>>52802659
Then why do condoms break your suspension of disbelief the fucking Ancient Romans had them and with all the wonders mundane(as in no magic involved) alchemy can pull, it's not that big of a stretch to say that condoms exist on Golarion.

>>52802609
If you want to fuck a girl safe and easy, you'll just TELL her you're on bachelor's snuff and be out of town before she realizes she's 8 months late.

I never said go for the smart ones!

>>52802677
Probably the same reason crossbows not being the BCE models breaks their suspension of disbelief, or cannons being around at the same time as full plate breaks their suspension of disbelief.

There's a 3 in it but their IQ ain't 300.

Ah, debates about whether or not condoms were culturally appropriate on Golarion. It's like old /pfg/ come back to life!

>>52802710
>cannons being around at the same time as full plate
y-yeah but full plate was actually invented AFTER cannon...

>>52802677

Condoms break my suspension of disbelief if they're some common thing you could pick up at the local herbalist. Those things should be rare and regional, where you order them from an alchemist or apothecary in a reasonably sized town.

Kintargo should have condoms, but Sandpoint should not.

>>52802729

This is why I'm still butt-blasted that fantasy settings don't actually ever try to immerse themselves in the 16th century. They pick and choose like ninny-heads.

>>52802688

Oh I'm sorry, I'm not a Chaotic or Evil asshole.

>>52802751
>Condoms break my suspension of disbelief if they're some common thing you could pick up at the local herbalist
Y-yeah except the guys who used them were like
Peasants.

>>52802324
This.
I remind you, he is surprisingly degenerate, and probably thirsty as fuck, easy to talk into all your skeevy bullshit.

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>>52802756

LIAR

>>52802762
Well nobility tended to use olive oil, wormwood, "Syrian unguent", or mouth-based contraceptives based on wines and mushrooms. Peasants can hardly afford that.

>>52802805
So showing up with one just proves how LOADED you are.

>>52802819
Condoms would not have been as expensive as wormwood-and-honey baths, daily consumption of pomegranete / rue / juniper, and liberal use of olive oil during sex itself.

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>>52802805

S-So you're saying the widespread availability of Bachelor's Snuff and Night Tea is an anachronism?

>>52802819

I'm beginning to think the gilded teeth you get from constant Bachelor's Snuff usage might be seen as a desirable quality now, like you're some sort of Don Juan. Because let's face it, sex is simply better for both parties when you don't need a condom and can finish inside, I'm sure women might see a man who can provide that experience as a quality time on a lonely night.

>>52802843
It honestly depends on what they were made of
I mean, it's not like Juniper and wormwood would've been THAT expensive as a one-off depending where you lived, but a well-preserved intestine can last for ages and might well be basically free if you herd.

>>52802843
>Because let's face it, sex is simply better for both parties when you don't need a condom and can finish inside
Back in the day there was really not a good reason to not have a shitton of kids.

>>52802867

>Back in the day there was really not a good reason to not have a shitton of kids.

If you were married? Sure, fill her up. It's the good Cathol- I mean, Erastilian way.

If you're just some barmaid who likes the way that fighter's muscles glimmer in the tavern's candlelight? You really don't want to get a bun in your oven.

>>52802883
>being a slut

>>52802526
But then I wouldn't be a lamia

I'll confer with the DM

I was under the impression that Golarion suffered the same thing as the regular DnD setting:

Someone acquires 9th level spell
Blows it all up, Fallout style
People rebuild, Fallout Style
>Repeat

It was never a Euro fantasy simulator, but a Gonzo one.

>>52802863
>but a well-preserved intestine can last for ages and might well be basically free if you herd.

Modern ultra-thin condoms are still inferior to bareback, I can't imagine how shitty an experience it would be for the man and woman if you wrapped it up in a sheep's intestine. I mean, it's still better than just going solo, but there's a reason those herbs (that were harvested to extinction, mind you) were so popular.

>>52802896

Hey, someone's gotta be the easy girl, and barmaids (especially around the places where strangers come and go) who have access to exotic hunks they'll likely never see again tend to pick-and-choose.

>>52802939
There's a reason why nobles didn't use that shit. I mean, beyond the fact that having 20 kids was more or less a huge mark of prestige for a woman.

>>52802949
>I mean, beyond the fact that having 20 kids was more or less a huge mark of prestige for a woman.

Hell, if you were a noblewoman in ancient Rome you weren't allowed to go out without a male escort (typically your son or a slave) unless you were over 30... Or had at least three trueborn children by your husband.

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>>52802758

TFW not degenerate enough to satisfy the /pfg/ crowd

TFW fetishes are too degenerate for most tame people to look at

>>52803010
And then you had Cornelia Africanus.

>>52803010

Rome was dangerous as fuck though.

Weren't there gangs of roving youths who would go out and slit drunkard's throats as like a hobby?

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>>52803022
Sounds like you need a hug. Bring it in, broham.

>>52802751
Sanpoint is like a 2 hour ride from a major city.

>>52803039
Only in the African territories.

>>52803039
>Weren't there gangs of roving youths who would go out and slit drunkard's throats as like a hobby?

Yup, and the chariot races attracted fans who would often go out and trash the city if their favorite team won or lost.

It got so bad that Justinian, Emperor of the Eastern Roman Empire, nearly lost his diadem after a game of the Blues and Greens turned political (the Nika Riots.) Of course, Justinian didn't flee Constantinople when this happened after Theodora professed her intention to stay (something about preferring to be a pretty corpse than a shabby exile), and Justinian quelled the revolt like any level-headed ruler.

By tricking the rioters into the Hippodrome and slaughtering all twenty thousand of them.

>>52803069

>When your bae says her parents aren't home but Magnimar is two hours away

>>52803080
If it works it works.

>>52803039
>Weren't there gangs of roving youths who would go out and slit drunkard's throats as like a hobby?

Only when stuff got really really really out of hand.
I think you're remembering the Helot nights that Sparta would have, where they would take young Spartan men that were in training to be warrior-citizens and send them out into the countryside with the express goal of finding and murdering the best examples of the Helots to keep them in check and do some eugenics.

>>52801259
Reminder that cats are more like 9-inches tall and 10~ lbs. At best, on their hind legs, you're probably looking at around 20 inches.

None of you are in normal relationships are you?

>>52803324
>anons on 4chan
>being in a relationship

You're a funny guy

>>52801945
Also RotRL has a ghost nymph that even in death is missing bits that got pulped when ogres raped her to death.

>>52803353
w-wew

>>52803324
Happily married for eight years to a woman that encourages my rpg hobby and is more into board games than I am.

>>52803353

Yeah, I remember that. Her boyfriend was made to watch and than handed over to a bunch of hags who turned him into an undead abomination.

What's the most fun discipline and why is it Fool's Errand?

>Fighting a pair of large flying aberrations
>NPC hits one with a silver crane strike, copy it with the mimic counter and then use the multi jump stance to pinball through the air to strike it down
>Nat 1 the attack roll and blame it on the fact the PC realised at the last moment the warder below could see up her skirt
>Free action Lock attempt, successfully grab it and then use the remaining two jumps to kick upwards against the air to slowly force it closer to the ground
>ZS Warder on the ground can finally reach it with lunge and cut it in half with a crit

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>>52800955
constantly

>>52803324
Considering gorgons don't exist in real life? No.

And yes, that's exactly as messed-up as it sounds, which is why I've given up on ever having a normal one. Just not cut out for it, ya know? I blame DeviantArt.

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Genetic modification and cloning better be a thing in Starfinder, I've got a hankering to play pic related.

Is there a cr 20 archon? I know most outsider races have a cr 20 member as a sort of token final boss, but can't remember if the archons do.

>>52803655
>Gene Mods
I can see that being used as a level up mechanic for some classes

>Cloning
Probably the new 'resurrect'

>>52803655

Yakub confirmed.

>>52802758
>>52802324
I might! I bet he'd like that. Besides, all things in this world are mine to possess, including his "No-Dachi!"

>>52803668
Solar Archons are normally pretty high in CR

>>52802688
>But he said he was the Crown Prince of Kay-Deer-uh!

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>>52803896

Pls don't pump and dump the dumb girls, you're compounding on an already sad situation.

>>52803887
Pathfinder Solars are angels.
>>52803668
Stars are CR 19. I believe there's also a unique Archon in a book somewhere.

>>52803943
>>52803668
Andoletta, Grandmother Crow, has a portfolio of Consolation, Respect, and Security. She's CR 28.
http://archivesofnethys.com/MonsterDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Andoletta

>>52803925
But cute & dumb girls are obviously meant for pumping and dumping onto your family's estate as new maids to await your glorious return.

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>You will never win a one-way ticket to Hermea

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Hello /pfg/!

Does anyone have a link Pathfinder Adventure Path #108: Hell Comes to Westcrown?

It's not on the troves and every links I found were dead.

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>>52804060
Of course he wouldn't let us in! Why would he want creatures harmed by positive energy in his paradise?

>>52804098

I don't know who that is, but she's pretty cute!

>>52804072

Would if I could, friend. Don't got it either, but I've seen enough people talk about it here that there's probably someone who's got it (we've got DMs who're running it, after all.)

>>52804098
Because they're also healed by negative energy! If he can breed both traits in, just imagine!

>>52804161
That doesn't make any sense.

Very little of negative or positive energy makes sense.

If anything, undead should be a twisted use of positive energy, and should be healed by it just like everything is. Good holy power and evil holy power should hurt/heal them.

>>52803324
I was until the missus had an affair with my buddy. Luckily, they think it's all fine now, and that I'm surprisingly relaxed about the whole thing.

Idiots moved into a house and told me the address. They're practically begging for some Red Dragon shit.

>>52803992
What if they're cute and dumb, but also brave and heroic?

>>52804307

Then they're trash.

>>52804307
Gloriana, shhh

So I'm playing MAXIMUM KNOWLEDGE as the following in a Gestalt game, beginning at 4th level.

>Inquisitor 2/Minchemist 2 || Disciple of the Pike 4 VMC Bard

I'm an middle aged Elf and have 18 Int and 16 Wisdom for tis, with my cognatogen I boost this to 22 Int. What I'm looking at when identifying monsters is the following:

>4 (ranks)
>3 (class skill)
>6 (int)
>6 (int again because mind chemist)
>2 (breadth of experience)
>2 (bardic knowledge)
>2 (illuminating touch)
>2 (aura of enlightenment)
>3 (monster lore)
>2 (disciple of the pike)

Total: +32(+24 w/o resources spent) for identifying monsters, +27(19 w/o resources spent) for everything else

I can boost this to +40 by casting Know the Enemy, but only for identifying monsters.

>>52804473
Ok, my actual question, any suggestions on boosting this higher? Elves have a few racial traits that give a bit of knowledge, but anything else?

>>52804516
Deific Obedience (Irori)

>>52804579
Perfect I forgot about obediences

hero points are a mistake

>>52804307

Gloriana, pls go.

Can someone who's not of the proper cleric/divine class alignment still worship a diety?

Like can a Chaotic Neutral Person worship Iori as long as they aren't a divine class/don't try to get an obedience out of it?

>>52804697
There are chaotic gods too you know, anon.

Wait... is that... Iomede?!

>>52804697
>Like can a Chaotic Neutral Person worship Iori as long as they aren't a divine class/don't try to get an obedience out of it?

Not quite, the Gods do actually check up to see if their casual followers are keeping up with their teachings - after all, it only takes one successful heretic to start a trend, even if that heretic's a Barbarian.

Punishment for these transgressions tend to vary depending on the deity you worship. Shelyn for example curses you with seeing the faces of those you hurt or betrayed everywhere you go, whispers of your misdeeds haunting your every step until you either leave her church or seek forgiveness. Irori would probably cloud your mind, lock up your joints and leave you unable to focus.

>>52804697
Yes.

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>>52804721
Yeah, but there isn't a Chaotic God of self perfection and improvement.

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>>52804762
Your image doesn't match your filename famalam

>>52804762
Get out of here Iomede, nobody wants your trumpets unless you're going to use them to remake Pokemon Emerald.

>>52804825
I don't even understand this Ioemodae thing. Like I get the "durr hurr she isn't good thing" but why would Iomadae ask a question about chaotic worshipers? Nor what she has to do with self-perfection.

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Since the Sparrow's Path legendary talent is somewhat shabby, would the following (homebrew) legendary talent be a good way to allow Spheres of Might melee martials to reliably attack fliers?

Gravitic Thrust
Prerequisites: Equipment sphere
You channel the world's gravity to smite a foe above you. For the purpose of your melee reach (even for your threatened area), treat any enemies vertically above you as if they were at the same vertical altitude as you. This does not apply to enemies vertically above you by more than 20 times your HD in feet. In environments without gravity, you treat all directions as vertically above you. This is a supernatural ability.

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>>52804864

I think it's shitposting, but I can't be sure.

Iomedae however is the driest Paladin god I've ever had the misfortune of learning about, she desperately needs *something* in her portfolio beyond "muh honor" to make her seem worthwhile as a goddess.

You know who was a good "generic Paladin" deity? Pelor. If I'm going to be a Paladin, at least let me praise the sun.

>>52804890
>Pelor
Human supremacist please go.

>>52804935
>not being a paladin of Zarus
get a load of this faggot.

>>52804733
Doesn't the break the whole "don't fuck with mortals directly" things deities have?

>>52804473
>>52804516
Masterwork items of book learnin'

>>52804890
>Worshipping the Burning Hate

No thanks.

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>>52804890
Every time I think about Paladins my mind immediately goes to Shelyn for some reason. What does that say about how I feel about Iomedae?

>>52800872
I'd give them the giant simple template and have them be one class level behind the other PCs.

>>52804935

See, the fact you can even say that and support your claim with evidence is proof that Pelor is a better Paladin god than Iomedae - Pelor has depth, Iomedae does not.

Hell, even Amaunator has more depth.

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>>52804935

>Not thinking humans are the greatest

What are you, gay?

>>52804977
Technically sharkskin reading glasses would do the trick.

>>52804993
>What does that say about how I feel about Iomedae?

It says you don't even see Iomedae as a goddess, you see her as background noise.

Shelyn doesn't even have that many Paladins, they're very rare and devoted mostly to mending their broken hearts through chaste devotion to a single man or woman.

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>>52804993

That's not unusual. Whenever I think of paladins, I think of Erastil.

>>52805004
>being a berry bruiser
You'll be the first to go on the day of reckoning.

I'm going to try DMing a campaign for 3.5 edition D&D I've been working on the last few weeks. It's my second time DMing ever, and I was curious to how much I can lay the rules if I wish to have a certain event happen?

In particular, I want a series of spells to trap players in an extra dimensional space where their life-force is altered. There's no spells that would do what I want that are in the game, the life force altering part at least. It'll make it so instead of having their collective HD per character, each character only gets one of their HD at a time, but still have a total of HD equal to their level. So if John the Rogue has 6d6+1 for HD, then he has 7 HP at a time, for 6 total loses before he would die. Each time the players lose a single HD, their highest two ability scores drop by 1. Their scores can be regained, along with hit dice, but for every potion or spell they may use, each player may never restore HP over a HD per use. So a potion of cure serious, no matter what, would only give John one set of 7 HP and a one point increase to their weakened abilities per potion. Same for other spells and abilities. I'll then have them fighting weaker monsters than their used to, but they'll be more dangerous. And in the end, I'll have them face their own party at 5th level (they'll be 8th for this). If they lose, or die (lose all hit dice), the player or players will regain full health and abilities, but will drop one xp below their current level, and lose everything with that, permanently. This can keep happening until they lose all their levels (die). The only way the party can leave is by defeating themselves or dying.

I was thinking someone sets spell traps an item the characters are searching for or traps an area the players enter to cause this. It'll be a DC 25 Will save to negate the effects or else be transported. But does this seem unfair or OP? I was really just trying to create a challenge by introducing a new mechanic instead of a new monster.

>>52804877
Eh, if you're going to start having people mess with local gravity, it would be better to let them Devil May Cry rocket jump to an enemy and land safely. You know, like an aerial charge.

That gravity weirdness would be easier to parse as an Equipment trick if it dropped a flier down to earth, instead. Much simpler, more flexible, less confusing to visualize.

>>52804976

>She is greatly saddened by those who betray the ones they love, and haunts such folk with guilt and the subtle sounds of those they betrayed until they either genuinely ask for forgiveness or abandon the faith entirely.

"Don't Interfere with Mortals Directly" is broken all the time, especially by gods like Sun Wukong who wander the world as a drunk, picking fights and bedding beautiful maidens.

>>52804473
Why not be a half-orc and fully-progress Inquisitor on one side, in place of Cavalier levels?

Taking Half-Orc Inquisitor's favored class bonus every level is basically 1/2 class level to identifying monsters and Intimidate, same thing you're getting from Disciple of the Pike Cavalier. You have an uninterrupted spell progression, and the Bane/Greater Bane class features which are absolutely perfect for a monster-knower character (be sure to get that Bane Baldric too, for Greater Bane at level 7).

The if possible, you could reach Cavalier 4 in 2 levels, without falling behind in Inquisitor. Inquisitor which can have its own hunting-like archetype like Sanctified Slayer or Sacred Huntsmaster, to really emphasize how much your character studies and adapts to his enemies at the starts of fights for advantages.

>>52802636
Now I'm just imagining Xanderghul riding around on a bike, jingling the little bell while laughing evilly.

>>52805023
>they're very rare and devoted mostly to mending their broken hearts through chaste devotion to a single man or woman.
Given that the Paizo devs consider a woman giving birth to more than two children in her life makes her a "broodmare", this devotion probably doesn't last long.

>>52805043
I can't parse what exactly what you want to do, but it sounds retarded.

Give them negative levels, you mong.

>>52805025
Sarenrae for me.

>>52803324
I was! And then he broke up with me for my sister, which sucks.

>>52805032

Just showing there are plenty of lesser races who appreciate humanity.

>>52805080

Oh hush, Jessica Price is a bitter old hen prone to cluck about this and that, the truth of the matter is...

... Well, shit, now that I think about it, all the heterosexual couples you meet in Pathfinder don't actually have children. Svetlana and Oleg should be getting busy, but they aren't, and that couple you meet in that Irriseni village is childless too.

>>52805093
>>52805025
>>52804993
I assume most Paladins end up worshiping Torag, Sarenrae, Shelyn, or Abadar honestly.

>>52805125
It makes me wonder how Golarion's Good-aligned societies maintain sustainable population numbers.

>>52805125
Writing kids is hard and requires effort.

>>52805153

Silver dragons? They can shapeshift, and they all have a massive interspecies/pregnancy fetish.

>>52804651
Go where?

>>52804348
Why, are you studying something? Is it magic?

>>52805158
It usually also requires the writer to not be cynically obtuse about the value of having children.

>>52805158
Also the places you go in an AP are often places that, at one point or another, are placed in peril. Not exactly the kind of place where you'd want to populate with kids. Even the goblin in the closet encounter in RotJR comes with a warning about toning down the content.

>>52805170
>and they all have a massive interspecies/pregnancy fetish

That's going a few steps too far from the reality of Silver/Humanoid interactions, anon! Silver Dragons greatly admire Humanity and enjoy spending decades or even centuries in human forms to learn, teach or even love Humans, but it's not due to some innate desire to bear humanoid children, it's because Silvers are huge dorks for law and order, and Humanoids follow law and order more than most dragon types.

Silvers assuming the form of squires or courtiers just makes me think of Dunk and Egg, or Game of Thrones in general with the Targaryens.

>>52804890
Iomedae was a real person, a mortal woman. Focus on that angle and you'll have your nuance. She's got legitimate mortal experiences that she easily remembers. Show that through her action.

>>52805203
But most places are in peril in Golarion in some way.

>>52805203
*RotRL, not RotJR. This place has ruined me.

>>52805071
Yeah that seems like a good idea. Inquisitor on one side and on the other Mindchemist 2/Disciple of the Pike rest.

>>52805183

Patpatpat.

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>>52805203
>>52805219
Wait, has RotJR actually had that encounter yet? They couldn't have just skipped it entirely, could they?

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>>52805224
You need an image to go with messages like that!

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>>52805224

>>52805196

Indeed, people write things they feel comfortable and cognizant about, which is why books written by Crystal Frasier or Amber Scott tend to have prominent women or Transgender characters while things by James Jacobs always seems to have a Chaotic Good, Low Wisdom angle.

>>52805243

Goblin in the Closet occurs between Aldern's hunt and Thistletop, if the DM intends to do it he's going to do it within the next 2-3 sessions for each group.

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>>52805047

>it would be better to let them Devil May Cry rocket jump to an enemy and land safely

Perhaps two different talents could be offered to solve flyer-related woes without actually trivializing ground-based obstacles:

Gravitic Thrust
Prerequisites: Equipment sphere
You channel the world's gravity to smite a foe above you. For the purpose of your melee reach (even for your threatened area), treat any enemies vertically above you as if they were at the same vertical altitude as you. This does not apply to enemies vertically above you by more than 20 times your HD in feet. In environments without gravity, you treat all directions as vertically above you. This is a supernatural ability.

Split the Sky (leap)
Prerequisites: Athletic sphere
Once per turn (not round), as a free action even when it is not your turn, if you are on a surface that can support you, you can jump directly vertically upwards a number of feet equal to 20 times your Acrobatics ranks. This jump does not provoke attacks of opportunity, and at the end of the turn, you fall safely without provoking attacks of opportunity. You cannot move otherwise while you are airborne this way. You cannot begin the jump so as to avoid an attack or any hostile effect, but you can begin the jump so as to make an attack of opportunity against an airborne enemy.

>>52805215
I meant from the point of view of the author, not necessarily in-setting. If you know that the hobgoblin army is going to ransack this little hamlet in book 3, you're probably not going to try to ignore the fact that there are children there as much as possible to self-sanitize the later catastrophe. In most media the existence of children in the doomed village is almost always given attention only to serve as an extra gut-punch for the tragedy.

>>52805071
I hate that all this great monster-hunting material is tied to Inquisitor fluff, since it's the only class that does "fighty monster expert" in a way that actually uses it effectively.

I mostly play in games that allow refluffing, where you have a character and their abilities are described by the powers and features they have, but plenty of games will make you be this stupid religious persecuter instead, which barely even fits the fucking feature set.

>>52805290

This has less to do with Paizo being deeply uncomfortable about children (which they are, to a degree) and way more to do with Paizo being a very boring and safe company that tries to ride the waves of social opinion by making sure their product is edgy enough to attract people, but not daring enough to directly imply kids might die.

Their last product to include children (children that are thrown into peril, at that) was Reign of Winter, with Nadya's little daughter and twin sons.

>>52805290
But Good-aligned parties should be MORE compelled to save the village if it has children. Sure, they'd still save a village of childless spinsters and louts, but it doesn't feel as heroic. In fact, it feels like the village would have collapsed in one generation anyway as the reproductive population became too old to sustain things anymore.

>>52805342
>In fact, it feels like the village would have collapsed in one generation anyway as the reproductive population became too old to sustain things anymore.

That's why you encourage foreign villagers to move into the village to keep it running.

>>52805352
Heckin' rapefugees.

Does being an elven tiefling mean I count as an elf for the purpose of feats/archetypes/etc. if I take Pass for Human (I suppose in this case Pass for Elf)?

>>52805339
Being uncomfortable with even including children in something you're writing seems like the height of immaturity. It also seems like they view Golarion as not a living, breathing world, but instead a series of disconnected events.
Come to think of it, the mish-mash of nonsensical settings in Golarion may be the truest evidence of this.

>>52805352
Anon, don't make the mods delete this thread.

>>52805334
>I hate that all this great monster-hunting material is tied to Inquisitor fluff

The Slayer is one trait away from being an exceptional monster hunter.

>>52805364
I would say yes, because really, why not. But there are some GMs who will be complete autistic spergs about it and scream at you for being a "powergaming fuck", so I'll just tell you "don't count on it".

It would make tieflings the best Occultists in the game if it were a RAW thing.

>>52805364
How would you even be an elven tiefling mechanically?

>>52805385

Which one is that?

>>52805390

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/hybrid-classes/slayer/

>>52805394

No, I mean the trait.

>>52805389
Tieflings do not have to be from humans

>>52805403
Right, but they don't count as any other race, unless there are traits that allow that. Are there traits that allow that?

>>52805402

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/religion-traits/know-the-land/

Gives you Knowledge (Nature) and extra Survival, which always struck me as necessary for being a proper "hunt down the monster and kill it" class.

>>52805389
You can be tiefling/aasimar/planestouched of difference races. Paizo has said this for stuff like small sized tiefling/aasimar being halfling ones. So in this case I would be elven by the fact that Pass for Human would give me the right subtype?

>>52805387
It just seems odd since Paizo has said non-human tieflings are a thing you can play.

>>52805412
>Right, but they don't count as any other race, unless there are traits that allow that. Are there traits that allow that?
Yes, Pass for Human does that. It says you count ass Humanoid (Human) for all purposes.

>>52805379
>It also seems like they view Golarion as not a living, breathing world, but instead a series of disconnected events.

We've known this for YEARS, friend. Paizo had given up on making their world feel alive since they finished up on writing about the Inner Sea.

Honestly, it feels like Jade Regent was the last hurrah in trying to make their world feel alive.

>>52805423
Oh, well you'd have to go through your dm because that's not 'legit' but it certainly makes sense and should allow what you're asking about.

>>52805412
Aside from the Adopted Social Trait? By RAW no. There isn't. Because Paizo is retarded and you basically have to walk up to your GM and go "hey, can you houserule this?" if you want to have Pass for Human be anything but Human.

>>52805423
Welcome to Pathfinder, where "why the fuck is it like that" is a question we all asked each other on an hourly basis, to the point where we gave up asking because we knew the answer was just "Paizo is a bunch of fucking lazy hacks".

>>52805441
Yeah more than anything it seems like Paizo said "yeah playing small sized/non-human based planestouched is fine", but only after they had written Pass for Human.

>>52805379
>Being uncomfortable with even including children in something you're writing seems like the height of immaturity.

Paizo is staffed by immature people, the types of people that used to come up with slang names for Halflings that enjoyed laying with Human men, but now refuse to include Halfling/Dwarf love interests in their stories because "it's gross and pedophilic."

>>52805379
>Being uncomfortable with even including children in something you're writing seems like the height of immaturity.
Man, seeing some of the posts on /pfg/ I completely understand why people wouldn't want to involve child characters.

>It also seems like they view Golarion as not a living, breathing world, but instead a series of disconnected events.

It's also possible they just don't want to create a mish-mash metaplot issue like what happened in the old world of darkness. You know, where Saulot was Tremere, Tremere was Goratrix, Goratrix was a mirror, and nobody even knew the gangrel had left or why the ravnos was decimated.

>>52805450
Yeah, seems like it should have been errata'd at the same time they said you could play non-human based planestouched.

I suppose this comes down to a "ask your GM".

I'm asking because I want to take Breadth of Experience as an Elven Tiefling

>>52805463
>Man, seeing some of the posts on /pfg/ I completely understand why people wouldn't want to involve child characters
Really? Because OP's pic seems to be the only notable instance of children even existing in Golarion.

>>52805379
>Being uncomfortable with even including children in something you're writing seems like the height of immaturity.
I don't include them outside of my meat space group because you find people who use "loli" and "shota" as their default term for female and male children.

>>52805482
Val is only for daughteru-ing.

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What can you steal from the tower of some aristocrat? Obviously silver and gold, but what other things would be valuable and which ones are easier than most to cover up? Would pieces of clothing be valuable, rare flowers, foods etc?

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>>52805493
>What can you steal from the tower of some aristocrat?

Secrets are worth more than silver or sapphires.

>>52805482
Wasn't there some AP where you save some kids from some kobolds. There was a tubby one and a tomgirl.

>>52805493
High class clothing is pretty expensive, especially if you can sell it to perverts. Pretty much anything embarrassing that can be used to lower their social position could be sold fairly easy to their political enemies. Flowers probably wouldn't last long enough, but certain foods might.

>>52805493
Signet rings, books filled with secrets.

>>52805493
Flowers and plants only if they're planted. Food wouldn't be.

Art pieces are relatively easy to trace, jewelry less so. Rare books is a good one, clothing as well as long as it isn't unique.

>>52805385
It literally doesn't have abilities for identifying monsters or adapting to them, so I don't know why you think that it's more of one than, say, Rogue. Through actual class features, Inquisitor gets to be a monster knowledge guru with offensive bonuses that apply based on creature types, and abilities to actually apply varied tactics to different creatures.

A Slayer can put ranks into identifying a creature, and then give himself a one-size-fits-all buff that doesn't have anything to do with it. He could think a dragon was a zombie the whole time and it wouldn't affect anything.

>>52805514
I think you're thinking of the module Crown of the Kobold King.

>>52805482
>Because OP's pic seems to be the only notable instance of children even existing in Golarion.

There's children in Rise of the Runelords, there's children in Curse of the Crimson Throne, there's dozens of children in Reign of Winter, three of which are even characters with lines and plot importance.

There's children in Giantslayer and Iron Gods, you're expected to make children in Kingmaker, there's even children all over the Modules.

You only get No Kids in APs written by people who are clearly uncomfortable with children, or regions here having children pop up in the story would be cruel and unnecessary.

>>52805493

59,000 pounds on socks!

Yes -- socks! Run out again!! Why is it that no matter how many millions of pairs of socks I buy, I never seem to have any? They just...disappear! Honestly, you'd think someone was coming in here,stealing the damn things and then selling them off.

>>52805493
Expensive wine and paintings would also be good.

>>52805546
>regions here having children pop up in the story would be cruel and unnecessary.
Children happen regardless of whether it's humane or necessary.

>>52800955
To busy. You have to kill all the satans.

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>>52805554

Impossible, sir. Only you and I have access to your socks.

>>52805575
Right, but including them doesn't necessarily make the story better, more exciting, or more fun. This is a game, it should focus on fun, not realism.

>>52805493
I would steal the aristocrat. Make a living off of kidnapping and ransoming nobility/royalty, or selling them as high end slaves to the highest bid.

I would be a Thief of Kings.

>>52805586
>This is a game, it should focus on fun, not realism.
I'm gonna shoot you with water balloons! Sounds fun, right?

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>>52805596

This guy knows what's up.

>>52805598
Jesus fucking christ I hate this water balloon meme.

>>52805538
It actually does get a bonus to Knowledge checks after Studying them, but you're right that it doesn't affect anything. It's also a noncaster martial, which unfortunately means that it doesn't even have other useful actions to take in response to the gathered intel, besides switch weapons/ammunition. You just Study and attack.

>>52805598
Like a water balloon fight? Yeah, that actually does sound pretty fun.

>>52805575

People make children, but writers make stories. If the region the story is set in isn't enriched by the presence of children, than children won't get mentioned.

Nadya taking care of her children was useful to establish she's a hard-working mother slowly crumbling under the stress of losing everything she loves to senseless violence. Wrath of the Righteous would not have been a better AP if you run across some tiny indoctrinated toddlers who need to be shown the light.

>>52805490
That kid was such a sweetheart, makes me feel kinda sad that the IG campaign I was in just stopped and never got to kick back into gear.

>>52805606
Blame throwing weapons guy

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>>52805610

>>52805612
This exactly. The children are there, but not explicitly called out. They're in the background, just like every person living in the city/town who isn't important enough to be given a statblock.

Is a humanoid with Enlarge Person considered a Large (Long) or a Large (Tall) creature?

>>52805705
Tall. They'd be Long if they were a wolf, horse, or other quadruped.

People talk about Dragonslaying all the time in fantasy RPGs, but what about Dragon laying? Surely its a better option no?

>>52805705

Large (Tall)

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/pfg/ i need to be GROSSLY INCANDESCENT.

How do i emit the most light possible? Staring off on casting Light on my body. and having an Ioun Torch.

>>52805713
>People talk about Dragonslaying all the time in fantasy RPGs

Anon... 60% of the discussions about Dragons on /tg/ are about Dragon Laying. If anything, being a genuine Dragonslayer is an exceptional quality.

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>>52805713

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>>52805721

>Wearing chainmail with breasts that large

It looks painful.

>>52805713
Depends on your GM's attitude towards sex and relationships.
Dragon laying could lead to gaining a powerful ally, having some interesting plot beats, a redemption side quest if they're evil, etc. Hell, even ERP if you and your GM are both into that.

But with most GMs, it's going to lead to you getting crushed, incinerated, cucked, or just stuck with an alimony the size of a dragon's hoard.

>>52805721
Permanency + Daylight

>>52805721
Use Equipment Trick with sunrod to qualify 2 levels early for spellcasting prestige classes! There's not a brighter thing you could do!

>>52805721

Paladins get a Divine Bond variant that includes glowing eyes or a glowing halo.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/paladin/#Divine_Bond_Variants_Optional

>>52805721
If you can swing 3.5 material then Luminous and Greater luminous armor are so bright they give people attacking you with melee attacks a -4 to hit. Also sheds light equivalent to a daylight spell.

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>>52805769
Oh good lord, those are awful!

>>52805721
>Light
>Sphere

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>>52805749

>All that bad stuff

B-But most of the Good dragons (the ones you'd be having relationships with) know how to transform into painfully beautiful humanoids!

>>52805742

i can 100% garuntee that she's only wearing chainmail on her arms and as thigh high boots.

>>52805742
It's either fitted or (uselessly) a cut-out section. Her breasts' position gives me the funny impression that there's a big hole that's been removed from the chain, JUST where her breasts are. Or that it ends right above them, at least. That would be stupid as fuck armor design, but maybe not if she had a special plate piece that usually goes there, which she's taken off like her helmet?

>>52805792
But what's the point then? Might as well fuck kitsune or changeling or transmutation/psychometabolism enthusiast.

>>52805805

Yeah, just noticed the bare thigh and the fact the breasts aren't as "filled out" as they'd be if it was chain.

>>52805814

Oh my GOD we are NOT having this fucking argument again.

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>>52805814
I mean, I'm down for all those as well...

>>52805792
Good GMs will use a relationship to introduce meaningful conflict.
Bad GMs, who are in the majority, will just use a relationship to fuck you over. Even if you're dating a Silver who turns into an elf to get busy, you're going to get NTR'd.

>>52805733
>that artist kept doing more of that character
I have a powerful need.

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>>52805814
>But what's the point then?

THE POINT IS, THOSE ARE THE FORMS DRAGONS WOULD TAKE TO HAVE SEX WITH HUMANOIDS ALREADY.

YOU AREN'T GOING TO MEET A SILVER DRAGON HUSBANDO THAT EXPECTS YOU TO TAKE HIS FIFTEEN INCH DRAGON DICK.

>>52805842

only 15?

>>52805842
Oh great, you reminded me that are some people into that

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Let's just say I got away with playing literal Rance for half a campaign before someone reverse image searched the pic I was using.

>>52805842
Unless you send a PM to someone--there's a certain dracoboo in WotRaunchy who used Pathfinder Vices to determine size, the absolute madman

>>52805864
>mfw I got away with playing literally Saber with literally Shirou as cohort because the DM knew jackshit about anime

>>52805864
So, how many 'conquests' you got away with

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>>52805841

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>>52805721

post all of it ya jackass.

>>52805879
Isn't there also a dracoboo in Romance of the Righteous Kingdoms?

>>52805890
A source please?

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>>52805841
Here you go.

>>52805733
>>52805890
Apparently, also the younger brother of Markiplier.

>>52805842
But I waaaaaaant to sheath the dragon's red spear...

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>>52805841
And here.

>>52805910
I don't remember anymore.

>>52805900
holy fuck that outfit looks dumber the longer I look

>>52805864
>Played a Paladin
>Informed I was using an asshole villain's art
>Played a Wizard
>GM never had the heart to tell me until it was over that my character portrait was Lezard Valeth
>Played a Bloodrager
>Gave up and just literally used Saber of Black for all my art
>He's probably going to end up being a villain too

>>52805864
Because my circle of players I play with are all weebs meanwhile, its actually impossible for me to play as any recognizable character and get away with it for the most part

Oh well

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>>52805888
Several, and since the game was set in "Japan" he had a major paranoia about haniwas. And yes, I collected seashells like a motherfucker.

>>52805900
>Shortstack
Eeeeeeh
>Chainmail kneesocks
God damnit

>>52805907
There might also be one, I wasn't watching that game that closely since I got into WotRaunchy

>>52805910
Oh, found it. I should look at the saved title names.

http://twokinds.deviantart.com/art/Dragongirl-Wrinry-and-Her-Familiar-338119220