warhammer 40k general /40kg/

1st for you guys are lazy fucks

>and orks

>>52789049
Avatar of Isha would be cool. Like a Lord of War healer, which would be pretty much the first time that has been done.

3rd for the Omnissiah

>>52789153
I'm not even sure how you would do that. Would it be an aura of feel no pain, psychic powers to cast Renewal to heal wounds on single targets, and the ability to revive dead squads?

4th for waacfags, tourneyfags, and grognards being btfo with 8E

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So, anyone need SW:A rulebooks scans? 157mb of well scanned rules.

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5th for Macragge

>>52789092
The SWA google doc is broken

So I'm Building a Deathwatch army. I have my current one with watch captain Artemis, vanguard veterans, Regular vets, A corvus, and a full squad of Termies. With how they're all set up it's 1175 points. Any suggestions for finishing up a 1500 point army?

>>52792458
I was going to add a land raider with all the gubbinz but that would leave me with 40 pts and I'm super new so I wouldn't know if its worth it or if they're are other upgrades I should really want.

So I am a johnny come late trying eternal crusade because it's free - I'm finding it pretty frustrating and not fun like space marine's multiplayer was. Melee or heavy bolter kills in all of 2 seconds, so it's more like a Red orchestra "Spawn, spend 90% time moving, then you're dead" than space marine.

Who wins? Baneblade or Bloodthirster?

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>>52789092
>3 hours ago
You jumped the gun, Junior.

>>52792520

Learn to melee.
New players, who are identifiable because they have no armour mods, open with a fast attack. Counter with a D-bash then hip-fire into the upper torso/head area.
Experienced players will usually open with a strong attack because it has the least risk while doing a lot of damage. Roll *past* them and keep running. Your roll has invincibility frames and will stop you getting killed quickly.
The best counter to melee is climbing on top of a box and laying into them.
An enemy team will spam Heavy Bolters until you get smart and start sniping them with a Lascannon. Use the master crafted Lascannon if you have it. If they see you and start firing, move. The suppression is too much to be able to fire back and will draw attention to your position.

>>52792518
How about you grab some rhinos (or rhino variants like razorback or predators) or a drop pod instead of Land Raiders? Landraiders are OK, but not great, there's better stuff for the points.
disclaimer: I don't play space marines.

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Someone suggest a Psykana, in replacement of the Acolyte Psykers, but they are too much point wise compared to the Acolytes.

Man, I haven't seen someone accuse GW of being part of the white genocide jew conspiracy, whatever happened to the people who would post about that, it was really funny.

WTF do I take with Cawl in a Battle brothers format? Possibly going the teamed up with Millitarum Tempestus or Ultrasmurfs.

>>52792384
Sure, if you've got it. Google doc is currently broken.

I'm in the groove of painting a model

I think the bronze I got is too dark though for the trimmings :l

>>52792912
I was thihnking it, but I wanted to know if anyopne could point me to saya formation or some good wargear or relics, I'm pretty sure I have all the slots filled.

>>52792310
Basically the Avatar of Ynnead, just Mastery Level 4, and less CC abilities. Biomancy or some new eldar psychic power set. 18" range for FNP.

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I rocked up and tried my hand at weathering. I may have overdone it a bit but I really like that it makes my yellow bastards less toy-like.

What's everybody working on?

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>>52792390

>>52792556
Baneblade probably. Bloodthirsters arent that amazing.

>>52793501

Hot Dog Stand theme-marines, assemble!

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Is GeeDubs entering a silver age? It's like a golden age but not as good but still pretty good.

Rolled 5, 4 = 9 (2d6)

>>52793551
>implying
Bloodthirster has a 4+ jink, a 12" move, a strength D axe and two greater gifts which are randomly rolled for.

>>52793501
Finished modelling up a Farseer I'd been working on. Now moved onto a SoB Canoness conversion. Still not sure if the kitbash is gonna work out, though I'm hopeful.

>>52793583
If the share price is anything to go by then hell yes

>>52793583
Honestly after releasing Genestealers Cultists and a the new-Necrumunda type game I'm pretty close to drinking the koolaid again.

>>52793583
I started almost exactly a year ago, and it seems that every release has been pretty cool since then. So yeah everything seems goldenish to me.

>>52793666
Damn those devilish trips

Is it really the new-Necromunda though? Based gangs which could be personalised to hell and back vs a shitty skirmish game which makes zero sense in terms of fluff.

Did anyone else notice that the Siege of Vraks Second Edition in the Mega stops at p. 153 and picks up again at 202?

No rules are missing (DKoK starts on 202) but it's missing like 50 pages.

Of course, it being a second edition (and one that condensed three volumes into one) I'm sure the fluff is unchanged from the original iA 5/6/7, it's just weird.

>>52793551
Okay, what about Baneblade vs Monolith?

>>52793579
I should probably name my Brother Captain Oskar Weiner. Third company best, most condiment company.

>>52792520
>so it's more like a Red orchestra "Spawn, spend 90% time moving, then you're dead" than space marine.

Accurate to the tabletop

>>52793308
I've met some pretty unpleasent WAAC fags but I've met some unpleasent "fluff" players as well.
>Tyranids vs my blood angels
>Brags about how he's such good sport he didn't even put wings on his hive tyrant
I put my ten man tactical squad on the table, equipped with a power sword and a grav gun.
>Oh boy, grav spam!
Knock some monster down to I1 with the grav and then charge it with the power sword, killing it.
>*SIGH*, had to be grav, didn't it?
He's got gaunts coming towards my dread but I turn around and shoot his hive tyrant.
>Aren't you going to go for the guants? they're closer.
>5+ cover saves... *SIGH* yeah, he's dead
Force sword librarian kills his carnifex before he gets to strike
>starts packing his dead models away and phoning his wife, ignoring the game

>>52793551
>>52793595

The D-thirster was also free.

>>52793783
Monolith isn't even a super heavy, baneblade.

>>52793793
>Aren't you going to go for the guants? they're closer.

Lol fucking Tyranidfags

>>52793798
It's better if you buy it.
REAVERthirster > Dthirster

>>52793818
Did he like, forget what edition he was playing? I remember target priority being a thing in 40k, but that had to have been like four editions ago.

>>52793878

"Shoot the big ones" had such a scarring effect on 'Nid players that now, 10* years on, they're still scared of it.

*: (-ish?)

>>52793878
From memory, I dont think it even would have applied because you were allowed to shoot over over gaunts at monsters.

>>52793818
>>52793793
It wasn't even that he got things wrong, it's that he bragged so much about being a good sportsman for passing up on good wargear and units but then got really butthurt and passive aggressive when he starts losing.

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>>52793793
>phoning his wife

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I'm going to my first ever tournament.
This is ITC in San Antonio, TX. What should I expect? Is everything deathstar SM and Eldar these days?

I'm literally casual with friends, we mainly play fun missions. I have IG and some Cult Mech.

/40kg/ you're my only hope.

The new fluff sucks.

>>52792390
Stop posting your shitty porn.

>>52794005
You should expect the kind of autism that waacfags bring.

>>52793928
"I'm being a nice guy so you're obliged to let me fuck you."

You were right to destroy him.

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Hey anons, I have a box of Sniper Scouts and a box of regular Scouts. I've been asking around on how I should equip them, but I've been getting conflicting answers, so I'm still not 100% sure. Should I go all bolters and Missile Launcher or HBolter for the regular guys, and have them camp an objective, so no need for the bolter's mobility, or just give the sergeant a pistol and chainsword and save points? And for the sniper scouts, should I give them all snipers, or give one of them a Missile Launcher or Heavy Bolter?

And what guns should I give Devastators? I've been told that Missile Launchers are good, and bad, so I'm not sure about them. Plasma Cannons look fun and are fluffy, but they each have a 1/6 chance of not firing and possibly hurting the user, but four S7 AP2 blasts should kill a lot of stuff. Lascannons or Multi-meltas also seem pretty good.

And finally, how should I equip Assault Marines? I want to give the sergeant an Eviscerator and a Combat Shield so that he can take on most things and have a chance to survive duels against AP3 or better, and because I think it'd look really cool. I don't know what to give the other guys who can take stuff though. Flamers seem like a good idea, -1 Attack for the chance to roast a lot of stuff doesn't seem all that bad. Plasma Pistols seem pretty strong and keep the extra attack for pistol and chainsword, as well as being fluffy, but they are pretty expensive at 15 points.

>>52794005
You're not going to win, so just bring your favorite models and let the WAAC wash over you like ocean waves.

If you roll well and do bring down a 2++/2++ lord of change with a lasgun, it will made for a good anecdote.

>>52794064
Did you have a particular set of Chapter tactics in mind?

>>52794005
>Is everything deathstar SM and Eldar these days?

No, there's also Riptides and Tzeentch psychic bullshit spam. It's such a good thing we have so many fluffy things like allies and formations! Forge the narrative!

>>52794086
He's probably playing dark Angels, which he should have mentioned due to their descrepancies with the vanilla codex

>>52794086
Oh, Dark Angels!

>>52794105
Yeah, sorry about that, anon.

>>52794086
Anon posted a DA Assault Marine for his pic, so it seems obvious, though he should have specified.

>>52792884

I'll give it a try, though I wouldn't be able to do the climbing up onto a box before they eviscerate me. It's been an annoying affair of whichever class I am I get instakilled by another. If I'm melee then it's a heavy bolter, if I am apothecary or tactical it's heavy bolter or melee, if I am heavy bolter it's melee. There was a case where I was a tactical Chaos marine and I caught a stealthed eldar (I forget the class, sword and pistol, green color) and even laying into him with a 1-2 second head start with my bolter he managed to go and melee spam me. If I am using the heavy bolter it seems fine but anything else feels like I am firing wet noodles.

It's free so I can't bitch too much, I just remember more fun with spess mehreen than with it.

>>52794064
You can swap the chainsword on the sargent for a plasma pistol and going flying gunslinger.

>>52794064

If you plan on actually USING your scouts, give them sniper rifles and if points aren't an issue, cloaks as well. If they are just there to save you points and be cheaper than tactical marines, leave them with bolters. If you want them to melee for whatever stupid reason, give them chainswords not shotguns, and put them in a Land Speeder Storm.

Devastators should only be grav-cannons or lascannons unless you are Salamanders or Skyhammer. Grav-cannons for power, Lascannons for long range.

Assault Marines should just be 5 in a free Rhino or Drop Pod with 2 flamers and maybe a melta bomb. If you actually want to have them be jump marines, switch the Rhino for jump packs. Combat shield is fucking useless but looks cool if it's from the newest kit. Eviscerators aren't worth the points but I have them for coolness and just count them as chainswords. Pistols of any sort are never worth paying points for unless you are a 30K Moritat. Ideally you would have 2 melta guns for every 5 assault marines but only Blood Angels get that so we settle for 2 flamers.

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Should I keep the lasher-tendrils or swap them for a power scourge on the Helbrute?

>>52794064
>>52794115
Ah, should have guessed from the pic. Not sure how much helpful advice I can give there. I would say going with all Snipers for Scouts is probably better, and that Plasma pistols on assault marines are pretty wasteful.

>>52794064
Sniper scouts are great. Give them a missile launcher for some krak oomph on top of their snipers.
For regular scouts, either go bolters and heavy bolter/M-launcher for a budget tactical squad, or fill them with assault weapons, give the sarge meltabombs, and throw them in a landspeeder to rush/ outflank artillery, commanders, etc.

>>52794210
Infantry MLs are never worth buying full price, only CML/TML/vehicle variants for less points per shot/discounted prices. Heavy weapons are never worth it on non-Relentless units unless it has the word grav in its name or is something like a heavy flamer.

>>52794170
>Multiples of 5 rather than 8

The Bronze Lord is displeased by your failure.

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>>52794005
>I'm literally casual with friends, we mainly play fun missions. I have IG and some Cult Mech.
I like you my dude.
I also am a casual admech player.
honestly it's going to be a toss up just expect to see atleast one eldar player in the top brackets.
It shouldn't be everywhere but expect to fight it at some point just not every fight

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I like to play HoR Kill Team and want to make a Kill Team so as to not use my regular Ultramarines units for one. I'm not sure what chapters I should have on the Kill Team or what type of Marine they should be. I've already decided having A Carcharodon as part of the team.
What do?

>>52794170
You shouldn't bother with the hellforged because both the helbrute sucks regardless of whether it's only there to die.
Daemon Engine pack is better with one ecto fiend that gets BS5 and a mauler with tendrils

>>52794323
Don't be autistic, skulls collected are what matters. At least I'm not one of those homosexuals who make WE lists where half the units are ranged.

>>52794346
1) Why does the Helbrute suck?
2) How about that same formation but full Maulerfiend?
3) I'm trying to avoid picking fully ranged units in my Khornate army

>>52794155
That does sound cool, but man, I really like the idea of a dude with an Eviscerator. Chainswords are 40k. Giant Chainswords just scream 40k to me, y'know what I mean, anon?

>>52794161
I dunno, I think they'd be good for holding objectives since they can get some early movement with their special rules, right? I don't really like grav cannons since they seem like a really cheesy and overly powerful option, though lascannons seem pretty nice. I was wondering about Missile Launchers, because I could get away with only needing one box of Devastators if I used two Missile Launchers from the tactical squad boxes. Yeah, the flamers on the Assault Marines seem like a good idea to me.

>>52794175
Yeah, Flamers seem like a superior choice, which makes me feel kinda sad, because Plasma Pistols are cool, man. I was thinking of giving the Sniper dudes the Missile Launcher or maybe the Heavy Bolter, since the Missile Launcher packs a nice punch, but the HBolter is the same range as the snipers, so I'm not sure. But all Snipers does seem pretty good too.

>>52794210
Yeah, a Missile Launcher sounds like a good idea, and I think I'll go with Bolters with a HBolter for my Scouts.

>>52794247
That's a real shame, because I'd like to give Tac squads Heavy Weapons, but then I noticed that you snapfire if you move with a Heavy weapon, so I think I'll just give them Plasma guns, probably.

I forgot to mention that I want to play Dark Angels, sorry anons! So I can't put the Scouts in Land Speeders, even if the Scout Land Speeder model looks really cool.

>>52794413
You dont have to take the eviscerator on the sarg, it's better that you dont anyway because then he cant be challenged out.

>>52794458
That's true, but I just think it'd be cool. Plus, wouldn't it be better for a Veteran sergeant to take the Eviscerator rather than have another guy with it and him have a meltabomb? Then again, I think that's actually the same amount of attacks with the same profile, huh.

>>52794397
The helbrute is a worse dreadnought with expensive upgrade weapon options on a platform that will last as long as a solo unmarked obliterator for more points.
You REALLY want to have a forge for the ballistic skill benefit. It may be shooting, but it's a dragon shooting laser beams. Khorne does shoot from time to time.

>>52794397
>he thinks Khornate marines cannot into ranged
Khorn cares not how the blood flows, only that it does.

Since shadow war exists now it seems to have completely cannibalized kill team. Boxes are gone and nobody even bothers at my local stores. Is this common of gw to do? I started in December and I know their reputation but I actually really enjoyed kill team...

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>>52794337
Thanks for the advice. I was always a Mars fan, but IG armor was the best fit back then. Now with AdMech being a real army, I mix them together. They mix very well and keep my LRs alive.
>>52794092
I usually have no issue with Tau, and the guy who plays Tau is extremely unfair but pie plates for days fix that issue.
On the psychic phase, I don't even own a single model to create warp charges.
I will create a narrative, IG Armor and AdMech allies FTW.
>>52794084
I'm a 50/50 W/L casual but I figured this might be fun. I'll make as strong a list I can, but I'm IG so don't mind losing. DESU, it's still enjoyable to me if the other player isn't a dick (tau).
I'll go mainly all IG Armor and AdMech Destroyers (with gravguns) with Pask Punisher being the most 'troll' level character I'll have.
>>52794049
waacfags, only one of my buddies does this but over time we've taught him to be enjoyable (he's tau of course).

Can I get a link to WAAC lists that win these tournaments to make sure I'm bringing the proper power level of units to this tournament?

And again, thank you all for the feedback.

Pic is IG in a WAAC tournament.

>>52794337
I play fun tau lists and people complain about my army while they table me in like 3 or 4 turns. So your picture is inaccurate

>>52794682
Pic says 'non-Eldar' player.
Tau always take offense even when not mentioned.

Tau BTFO again on /tg/

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>>52792979
i see these lists all the time, what is used to make them?

>>52794741
>>52792979
I would also like to know this...

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>>52794005
throw that shit down the well

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i've got 50pts left over and unsure what to do with it. i really have no idea how i into SM lists

>>52794741
>>52794778
Look in the OP for the "picture book army selector"

>>52794741
If you see these all the time you should also see questions like yours and their replies.
I swear.
>every thread

>>52794815
Relics? Meltabombs?

>>52794884
>relics
i never know what to take or what might be a good fit. guess i could throw on some stuff onto that bike squad or pimp out the assault marines more

>>52794739
The point went completely over your head. Pretty much your proving the pic is wrong since you are that stupid and probably a space marine player

>>52794810
If you go to the rules, there's 4 categories of judgement. If you don't paint, you will be on the bottom. Besides, HATRED (All unpainted Models) is the norm.

>>52794970
kys

>>52795003
Now you show who the true retard is. . Get rekt

>>52793793
>Brags about how he's such good sport he didn't even put wings on his hive tyrant
Playing badly on purpose doesn't make you a good sport, it makes you an idiot who isn't going to be a worthwhile opponent.

>>52794553
>Khorn cares not how the blood flows, only that it does.
Next you'll try to use this to justify sorcery. Fuck off witch.

>>52794488
>The helbrute is a worse dreadnought with expensive upgrade weapon options on a platform that will last as long as a solo unmarked obliterator for more points
That's what the formation is for, actually. The Helbrute can be pretty killy if it reaches melee, and in the warpack he gets a 4++. Leave it alone and it'll reach melee and wreak shit. Kill it and suddenly my Maulerfiends have rage. Focus on them, and the neglected Berzerker horde, Juggerlord and Prince will wipe you clean off the board.

Best thing is that you don't need to keep the Warpsmith around and he can give them infinite Daemonforges while forming part of the 15-man Talisman squad.

>>52794993
>HATRED (All unpainted Models)
Really? I thought this was just a /tg/ meme.

I can only imagine WAAC arguing over what counts as painted.

>>52793793
In a game of 1000 points or greater you basically have to be running at least one flyrant to even have a credible chance of winning. He essentially threw the game when he made his list.

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Had a pretty Guardtastic day anons it was glorious had three Guard players at the shop today and one of them was Death Korp as well. Had an epic Maelstrom game between a Guard anon from /tg/and in my other game managed to rout a Tau player from the field. And Shadowsword was amazing today. Any of you lads interested in a batrep just tell me which one you want first. And show me those game pics anons for the glory of the God-Emperor!!!

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>>52795055
I remember you, you're that guy that sperged out whenever the thought of any form of shooting in a Khornate warband was brought up and went to Carnac tier levels of butthurt when someone showed multiple canon uses of stuff like heavy bolters, aren't you?

Besides, it used to be that Sorcery and Psykers were very much different, with Khorne being fine with Psykers because it was their own power they were born with, and smiting Sorcerers because it wasn't their own power as they drew it from the warp using arcane knowledge.

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>>52794810
>mfw they allow me to bring my unpainted Riptide Wing

>>52795097

Taufag tears are sweetest of all.

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>>52795055
>not using a Dreadclaw to get your Hellbrute into MURDER RANGE

>>52794682
>I play fun tau lists and people complain about my army while they table me in like 3 or 4 turns.
>Tau
>complaining about being tabled while using a fun tau list
>Tau players have access to some of the most devastating long-range dakka in the game
>Ork players on average get tabled roughly half the time (if not more) regardless of the list/wargear they're using
I think anon's complaining a bit too much here.

>>52795221
Who's complaining about being tabled? Apparently people are complaining about his army as they table him

>>52794993
>HATRED (All unpainted Models) is the norm.
News to me anon.

Then again, I'm an old Ork player with a bunch of boyz I haven't gotten a chance to even primer yet and rolled with that just fine in several games. But I haven't played in years (let alone touched this waac squigshit), so I'm probably the wrong git to ask.

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>>52795155
Not enough points!

>>52795111
Still making shit up I see. Yes, you can shoot with Khorne, but it is massively preferable to crush your foes in glorious melee combat, where skill actually matters.

>Besides, it used to be that Sorcery and Psykers were very much different, with Khorne being fine with Psykers because it was their own power they were born with, and smiting Sorcerers because it wasn't their own power as they drew it from the warp using arcane knowledge
Still making shit up I see. You actually got it backwards, Sorcery was fine as long as it was limited to summoning Daemons and other non-combat shit. Psykers are, were, and will always be hated which is why they were hunted down to the last in the World Eaters legion and why Khorne has so much anti-psyker gear.

Funny that you post Lheor when he along with Telemachon were said to not be hardcore enough for their legions and seeking something more than just devotion to the Gods. He left the legion and then got killed like the weakling he was. Go play Aeldari or something.

Death to the witch.

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>>52794682
>I play fun tau lists and people complain about my army while they table me in like 3 or 4 turns. So your picture is inaccurate
>my picture is inaccurate because people aren't bitching about tau.
gotcha senpai, next time i'll bitch about tau players being faggots, insufferable faggots

>>52795251
>Apparently people are complaining about his army as they table him
I believe he was complaining about >>52794337
picture being inaccurate. In other words, complaining about the complainers.

Which, considering Tau weaponry is designed to kill the opponent from the other side of the bloody table, seems really silly to me. Tau are "that fucking camper" of 40k, so other players griping about your army is pretty much part of what it means to be a Tau player.

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Dawn of War 3 is featured on GW's homepage. Seems like they have faith it'll be a big thing.

>>52795111
>no arm protection
>MASSIVE helmet (wings?horns?) that, even if they don't actively strain him and impede his movement, give away his position nicely
I'll take ''ate a Basilisk round 10 minutes into deployment'' for 200, Alex.

>>52795425
So I take it that means we're likely to see other factions show up/expansions like we saw in DoW 1/DoW 2?

>>52795373
>implying I read whatever book he appears in and didn't just use the picture as an example
The sorcery part is false, as it was Sorcery which Khorne hated most. Sorcery was never fine as it was power that did not belong to you, and so was cowardly to use. Even in ye old days it was combat and blood that summoned Bloodletters and other Daemons of Khorne, as it is in the KdK codex like they should be. Ranged combat is fine with Khorne, for he quite literally cares no how you kill, so long as it isn't with Sorcery. Bullets, blades, trickery that allows you to kill someone, anything that can be done by yourself is accepted.

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>>52795486
>mfw updated Dark Eldar get added in eventually

In all seriousness. should I just hold off on buying into Necrons until 8th edition is released?

>>52795506
>trickery that allows you to kill someone
Dishonorable, Tzeench territory. If by trickery you mean hiding and retreating you're more likely to get torn to pieces by Flesh Hounds than of getting even a single spike in reward.

>The sorcery part is false, as it was Sorcery which Khorne hated most
Blood Pact fluff states otherwise. They have (had?) non-psychic sorcerers who summoned Daemons to battle.

>>52795418
You'd probably complain about Tau eve, if they ran nothing but footslogging Breachers

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>>52795425
Maybe GW finally realized that whilst not all gamers that like DOW are going to rush to the nearest GW store and vica versa, the number that do are worth the little effort cross promotion requires.

>MFW people who loved Total War : Warhammer finding out it is based on a tabletop game
>Interested, they try to find out more, only to discover GW recently stopped with that game

>>52795561
Yeah. We know that a new edition is coming soon, so it's probably not a good idea to buy too much right now. Normally I'd suggest still picking up things like HQ choices and basic infantry which you'll always want, but given the game might see a complete ground-up rework, even that might be a bit of a risk.

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>>52795097

Were the Death Korps recast?

>>52795561
Probably a good idea yes. Unless you're only interested because of how the models look and want to paint them. In that case, go wild and just wait with buying any of the rules.

>>52795577
The trickery part is in Bloodletter lore, m8.

The Sorcery part is from when Sorcery and Psykers were different things, now the authors pretty much do the opposite, which I hate.

>>52795425
They have always had a ton of faith in relic, at least after the success of DoW, they even gave Blood Ravens rules and an Index Astartes article around the time of Dark Crusade.

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So since you anons seemed interested let me tell you of the ruination of Tau fag. The game lasted one turn after he realised how deadly Guard shooting is and we ran out of time too. It was 3000pts.

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Anyone that can help me with my list?
I love monoliths and want to implement them.

>>52795589
>You'd probably complain about Tau even if they ran Breachers
Considering I ran a Looted Basilisk (y'know, back when the Orks were allowed to actually LOOT SHIT!) and managed to blow up quite a few Hammerheads/Battlesuits with its Earthshaker cannon back in the day, not really.

I know the difference between Tau that are a threat from the other side of the map and Tau that are glorified choppa fodder.

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>>52795693

>The game lasted one turn

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> mfw I bought a codex last week because I was thinking of getting into this game and the GW shop worker did not tell me shit about this new edition coming soon

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>>52795782

You got worked, mark.

Which codex was it?

>>52795782
>Buying a codex before you buy any models
Why would you ever do this to yourself?

>>52795782
>not looking up news on here first
You dun goofed, anon.

But it's alright, at least you can read fluff and look at art while you wait. Plus, you can go and buy whatever models you want as well, basic troops will always serve you well.

>>52795782
>Buying anything without being informed

Only yourself to blame.

>>52795782
>buying anything when OP has mega archives

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>>52795620
>>52795693
No anon they were the real thing.
But I got first turn and moved all my shit up and did all my psychic shit too. But immediately fired a lacannon at a Hammerhead from one of my Demolishers hoping to at least make it jink. Oddly enough he refused so I penned him he failed his cover and I rolled a six and immediately blew it up. That was the start. Pic related is before it exploded.

>>52795629
>The trickery part is in Bloodletter lore, m8.
You are right! Though I think it'd be frown upon in Daemon society for a Bloodletter to avoid open engagement just to backstab you later like a coward. That's just my speculation, though.

>The Sorcery part is from when Sorcery and Psykers were different things, now the authors pretty much do the opposite, which I hate.
They still kinda are, at least in the books (in Betrayer you see Lorgar fus-ro-dah'ing people using words of power like in fucking skyrim). Though if it were up to me I would up the anti-psyker themes to eleven. I like the idea of rendering witches powerless before I hack them to pieces.

>>52795848
>Unpainted grey Tau

It's not a meme at this point, it's a simple fact of nature.

>>52795838
>buying models when paperhammer is so much cheaper

>>52795901

>being poor

>>52795850
Not really, Bloodletters are fully willing to engage in trickery if it means backstabbing a fool, they just aren't fond of the ways other Daemons do it, such as a Daemonette or Horror seducing someone with what they lust for/with promises of knowledge or secrets. They merely wish to do it as fast as possible and shanking a fool.

Lorgar is actually a natural psyker, and not a Sorcerer. He was of the most powerful in the Imperium, but refused to use it and as such had little control over it, which in 30k is represented by him harnessing on a 5+ rather than a 4+. Lorgar Transcended, when he became blessed by Chaos and became fully willing to use his power can choose what spells he uses, and harnesses on a 3+.

>>52794341
>I've already decided having A Carcharodon as part of the team.
Pentarchy of Blood Chapters
>Charcharodon
>Red Talon
>Flesh Eater
>Charnel Guard
>Death Eagle

What is /40kg/'s opinion on bolter drill, and imperial fists in general? BD seems to be OK on tacticals but I am a bit underwhelmed, I didn't realize that misses were so rare on BS4 models.

>>52795901
>>52795927
>Spending enough money for a device capable of browsing a Filipino butter churning forum to discuss British plastic army men

>>52795848
The thumbnail made me think the Tau were painted in the same style as the IG

How could I ever doubt the unbroken law of Tau models never being painted.

>>52795948
It's a nice bonus, though I think the Sentinels of Terra alternate one where they get twin-linked within half-range is better overall. It does make Heavy Bolters a much more palatable option though.

I'm not too big on Fists myself, though they are quite nice if you want something solid and well-rounded, but still have some options for specialization.

>>52795986
I went with IF for the fluff, and the 30k stats.

That and yellow is my color; clothes, makeup uses yellow a lot.

I am thinking of trying to make a list around pedro kantor + sternguard in drop pods. Would CRBD (close range bolter drill) be better you think? I like the 5 combi melta, 3 bolter + 2 hvy flamer combo.

>>52795948
It's a fun rule, but not the reason one plays IF or one of its succesors.
Tank Hunter devastators/centurions is why.

>And then you play the glorious Crimson Fists so your marines aren't wearing bananas, and for the ultimate ork-raping Thunderfire cannons when you field Pedro Kantor.

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>>52795977
>>52795871

>mfw I used to play with a couple friends of mine who were Tau players and all of their models had been painted, including their vehicles

>>52796017
I like pedro kantor, I have him yellow though. See >>52796011 for reasons on the color.

I don't have any thunderfire cannons, are they worth investing in?

>>52796011
I think if you've got a list centered around drop pods, the close-range version will benefit you more. It'll help with reliability from the Sternguard ammo while you're at such a close distance thanks to the pods, and also be slightly better during Overwatch.

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>>52796011

>makeup

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>>52795848
Then Shadowsword went full D mode and murdered the one Tau tank with missiles that I don't know the name of. But it was looking grim for the forces of the Greater Good. And images are being ass to resize so please forgive me for this oversized one.

>>52795871
>>52795977
Two guys in my group play Tau and have fully painted armies. Only one Riptide between the two of them as well.

I think the only guy in our group who actually runs unpainted stuff is the Ravenguard player, and the stuff he does have painted is just basecoated black

>>52796054
Well I have 3 rhinos (razorback parts also), 2 drop pods, and 2 land raiders.

I am just trying to figure out how to play, I am pretty new.

>>52796059
Yes, I am that IF noob from /wip/

>>52796011
>Yellow makeup
That just doesn't sound like it could ever look good.

>>52796091
I have mixed results, desu I don't want to talk about it in this thread

>>52795934
>Not really, Bloodletters are fully willing to engage in trickery if it means backstabbing a fool, they just aren't fond of the ways other Daemons do it, such as a Daemonette or Horror seducing someone with what they lust for/with promises of knowledge or secrets. They merely wish to do it as fast as possible and shanking a fool.
They also won't torture you, rape your mind or infect you with shit like the others would. Maybe by backstabbing they meant attacking you after you run out of offerings (which happens everywhere on the fluff) than literally stabbing you in the back like a coward (which contradicts the warrior tendencies they tend to display).

>Lorgar is actually a natural psyker, and not a Sorcerer
Again, the example from Betrayer I gave you was making a point about the difference between psychic powers and sorcery. The latter relies more on forbidden lore and words of power that 'break' reality just by being spoken. Not saying Lorgar wasn't psychic (all primarchs were to varying degrees).

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>yes it's small I know welcome to Tsons

>>52796047
>I don't have any thunderfire cannons, are they worth investing in?

Well if people still field infantry where you play, most definately. Four Str 6 small blasts with barrage fired by a BS 5 dude hurt basically anything through the amount of hits and wounds it can generate.

Adding Pedro just means they get reroll to wound against orks. Which is complete overkill

>>52796091
It works like red on a darker complexion.

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>mfw just realized I can ally into a GSC Diliverance Broodsurge with any army I want for 2 outflanking trucks full of screeching cultists

>>52796108
I have a haemotrope reactor and plasma devs I'd like to use for blobs once I reach enough points to add a librarian

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>>52796063
Before shot for proofs.

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>>52795940
"My Lord, I bring news."
Typhus Marburg paused in his study of the situation map of the dreary little planet his forces were engaged in ravaging. "Yes?"
"Lord. Starships have appeared in the outer system and are on course for a landing. They have been identified as elements of the Flesh Tearers."
"Yeah? Tell them to sod off and find their own world. Tell 'em we got here first."
"Sire, you misunderstand. They are here to defend this world!"
"What! Why? It's a sorry state of affairs when the followers of Chaos start to defend the weakling Imperium from each other!"
"Um, Lord... the Flesh Tearers are a loyalist chapter."
"They are? With a name like that! Are you sure they're not one of ours?"
"Positive, My Lord."
"Have you been able to call for any assistance?"
"The Astropaths have contacted other forces nearby. Unfortunately this has also alerted other loyalist forces in the sector and they are also headed our way."
"Bugger. So who gets here first then?"
"The Alpha Legion, sire."
"It never rains, it only pours, hey?"
"Umm..."
"What!"
"The Alpha Legion is one of ours."
"It is?!"
"Yes."
"I'm confused. You're telling me that a mob called the 'Flesh Tearers' isn't one of ours but a mob called the - what was it again..."
"The Alpha Legion, sire."
"Right... a mob called the Alpha Legion is one of ours."
"That is correct, sire."
"So who else is showing up to this barney then?"
"The Blood Drinkers."
"One of ours?"
"One of theirs."
"OK."
"The Iron Warriors."
"One of theirs?"
"No. One of ours."
"Go figure."
"The Dark Angels."
"Now I've heard of them. Followers of Slaanesh aren't they?"
"No, I think you're thinking of The Fallen, sire. The Dark Angels are Loyalists too."
"Bugger. So who else then?"
"The Emperor's Children."
"Oh, that one's too easy. They're obviously loyalists with a name like that."
"Um, not exactly my Lord."
"Really?"
"Yes, Lord. They're one of ours too."

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>>52796128
And my two battle cannon Russes hit another two Hammerheads immobilizing one and shaking the other after he again refused to jink. And then a Wyvern mulched a Pathfinder squad and a Ethereal attached to it. I know anons Pathfinders AND an Ethereal in a Tau list he must have been crazy.

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Should I buy a Barracuda or Remoras?

>>52796105
First off, you can't have the same Artefact more than once, so there is no way that all your sorcerers are allowed to have Seer's Bane.

Terminator armour doesn't add a whole lot for sorcerers, it's better to just give them Aura of dank glory and hide them in units.

Hellfyre missile rack can't be fired in addition to the combi-bolter, and has the same range as well. It does have Str 8 but not the volume of fire, nor the AP to do anything meaningfull against vehicles. The Soulreaper cannon is better.

And give the aspiring sorcerer a meltabomb.

>>52796191
I've never really played much with flyers, but after reading the rules for the Barracude it seemed like it was super broken and would down most other flyers in less than a round of shooting

>>52796123
Is that a 100 points ?

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So close to finishing! Just bases, insignias, and a dullcoat. I might just finish then before Saturday!

And then they ax shotgun veterans in 8th. I just know it. My luck is never so good that I complete an entire squad without SOMETHING going wrong!

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>>52796187
After that he pretty much just gave up and conceded the game to me. Then we had a glorious ram off for the Emperor. And he also agreed to a 2v1 4000pt game with me and the Krieg guy at our store so I'm pretty fucking excited. Now would you lads want to hear about my amazing Guard vs Guard battle or should I save it till tomorrow?

>>52796115
Huh, well I guess. Only really seen it on a friend of mine who is into that sort of "rave" scene with everything being in neon colours and shit.

>>52796231
Don't you worry, it would at least be IG in its entirety getting axed :^)

>>52796221
40 points

Anyone know if CRBD effects specialist ammo from sternguard vets?

>>52796134
And people wonder why the Orks just call 'em "spess mahreens" and "dem spiky gits"/"dem stinky gits"/"noisy gits"/"zoggin' weirdos" Yes, even Orks can tell when Slaanesh is having a little TOO much fun with your traitor chapter.

>>52795693
At least he was an armoured Tau instead of a Battlesuit Tau

>>52796241
Not surprising, it's not a particularly common color.

>>52796261
I believe it does.

>>52796291
1d4chan says it needs a FAQ, so I am wary on switching to CRBD if I am planning on using at least 10 vets

>>52796102
No, it's literal backstabbing. Remember, Khorne cares not where or how, so long as you do it yourself. The only offering Khorne cares for are skulls and blood, as well as proving yourself in combat. But yeah, you're right about the rest of it though.

True enough, I thought you were implying that Lorgar was a powerful Sorcerer and not a powerful Psyker.

Could a chainaxe cut through power armor?

>>52796399

Whats with the dumb question?

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>>52796252
this is one of the most absurd ideas I've ever heard on ALL of 4chan, and I've been here since '07 (inb4 newfag!)...

The thought that they would squat one of the most popular factions whose models compose 15% of all their entire model line is ridiculous.

i wish we could put this """rumor""" to rest

>>52796437
It'd also inadvertantly popularize any heroic scale WWII games out there as anyone with an IG army suddenly needs to find a new use for their legions of cannon fodder.

>>52796434
yes or no faggot

>>52796304
>>52796291
It doesn't affect it

>>52796463
definitely faggot

>>52796484
but it's ap4 faggot

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>>52796437

People are getting antsy with the destruction of Cadia and the sidelining of IG characters and armies in the rest of the Gathering Storm books.

Rumours of Armaggeddon and Catachan being destroyed didn't help nor the fact that Mordia was apparently swallowed up by the Eye of Terror.

>>52796492
That just means it won't go through every single time. It a chainaxe couldn't go through power armor than Khorn Berzerkers would literally never kill a single marine but with their pistols

>>52796509
k thanks

>>52796240
Sure go for it. Did you fight the DKoK guy?

>>52795699
No crons players anymore?

>>52796547
>zahndrekh
>no obryon
Where's the fucking fluff/10

>>52796240
Yes, speak of GonG

>>52796526
>>52796273
No but he got wrecked by a CSM player and he had a Riptide and a bunch of suits in reserves he just never used them. But i think that's enough for now anons I have a headache and i need to resize some more images too. You'll enjoy my Guard batrep though the Shadowsword turned everything around for me. It was so close at the end.

>>52796564
but I don't have the support for Obyron and nothing needs to be deep struck since all of my infantry pop out of the monoliths the turn they land

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Badda Bing Badda rost me

I've been in a time warp for a while and the GW page isn't loading for me.

What was the last 40k model releases and what are the upcoming ones?

Do you paint your own miniatures? Have you ever asked someone else to do it for you?

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>>52796690
Yes, it's like 33% of why I am into 40k.

No, it's like 33% of why I am into 40k.

I was thinking of an army like this... but I am really unsure if I filled out the rest of it correctly.

>>52796663
Drop the pointless havocs for more regular marines, and special weapons (flamers or meltas) on the raptors

>>52795426

he looks like a kharn wannabe, doesn't have a primarch axe though

>>52796709
>two Haemotrope reactors
For what purpose? Drop one and swap out the Rhino for a Razorback if you're going MSU.

>>52796736
They come in pairs, so I can only have 2, 4, 6, 8 etc.

What does MSU mean?

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>>52796715
the havocs are a tax for the warband my man

>>52796690
1) Yes. I painted the Lima Bean Guard above.

2) No. What's the point of spending MORE money to enjoy LESS of a hobby?

>>52796634
A list with Zandrekh but not Obryon is a list with no fun.

>>52796736
NO!
If anything, he needs another pack of devastators so he can put MORE Str. 7 AP2 LARGE MOTHERFUCKING BLASTS down range.

I think as fortifications you can get an ammo dump to reroll gets hot, if the Haemotrope Reactors don't already do that.

>>52796547
I took a poll the other day. There's 7 of you, out of 200 respondants. There's actually more people who don't play 40k in the general than necron players.

>>52796761
You really want me to drop the C'tan for Obyron and not even enough for a unit of lychguard?

>>52796797
Haemotrope reactors make your plasma get hot on a 1 or 2, actually. But I doubt that gets nullified by another formation or that would be incredibly broken.

>>52796834
I have a feeling monoliths (or AV14 in general) will get an amazing buff in 8th.

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>>52796797
>he
I am using the librarian for the rerolls on prescience. Otherwise the blasts are just too small.

>>52796841
I dunno, it's your list, you figure out how to make it fluffy not me.

I'm just pointing out that it's not exactly a list I'd want to fight because it's not fluffy enough for my taste.

>>52796858
>>52796864
See librarian comment here. If I did the math correctly (since you can always have primaris of prescience I will assume it manifests, if it doesn't I might not shoot).

Chance of "Gets hot!" = 2/6
Chance of "Gets hot!" on reroll = 2/6 * 2/6
Chance of a wound on above = 2/6 * 2/6 * 2/6

Means I will only have a 3.7% chance of taking a wound from gets hot

Someone check my math

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>>52796690

Yes I do. I recently primed and base coated a bunch of night lords.

>>52796744
Oh, I see. Didn't know much about their rules, thought they were like other fortifications but you could buy multiple.

It means Mutiple Small Units.

>>52796927
I was told that maxing out a tac squad as space marines is not advisable.

>>52796909
You can only reroll once.

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>>52796874
>wanting me to fluff it up so it's unplayable
>a list with 3 monoliths is too competitive

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>>52796663
>three termie squads with 5 dudes
>2 raptors with no special aka melta
>plain Havoks

>>52796939
Yes, you only get the one reroll for the gets hot.

Then you get the armor save which is coincidentally 2/6. 3+ is 3,4,5,6.

Is that wrong?

>>52796946
>so it's unplayable
That's not even close to what I said, I never complained about it being WAAC, just not fluffy.

>>52796936
Meh, I just like fielding all 10. If you're going with 5, grab a Razorback since it's a Rhino that sacrifices it's two fire points for some decent firepower. Unfortunately it's two best options aren't on the sprue, because Lascannon and TL plasmagun or a TL Assault Cannon is glorious.

>>52796964
I bought the las/plas combo. It would go really well with the haemotrope reactors.

Only problem is I'd have to drop pedro as my warlord to afford it. Then my warlord would have 2 wounds and no invuln

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Beep beep
>blows a hole in your line

>>52796959
No you're right, I just thought you were trying to include an ammo crate with the psyker.

>>52796985
Nope, need the reactors for the big boom.

If I went ammo crate I'd probably go lascannons

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>>52796962

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Can you be battleforged by having multiple CADs?
pic is related, roast me.

>>52797057
Why not make the second CAD a Battle Congregation? Also, make sure you have 1 flamer at the very least in each of your kataphron, momento mortispex for your dominus because it's the best wargear you have access to and a conversion field on your dominus.

>>52797057
You can take as many of each formation (including CAD) as you like provided you have the points and fulfill the minimum requirement for each CAD.

>>52797137
Could I just make 4xCADs of IG, CCS is just so cost effective and downright awesome.
>>52797115
I only have Destroyers and the one Dominus. They're there for the Grav. I could go double Heavy Flame Throwers on all my Chimeras if my meta had that to worry about.

>>52796690
painting is why I'm into 40k, so yeah I do it myself

>>52797228
You have one phosphor and the rest flamers for when you get assaulted. It doesn't replace your grav, only your pointlessly massed phos weapon

>>52797228
If you have the points for it, why not? Take 10 CADs if you want.

>>52794514
>The helbrute is a worse dreadnought with expensive upgrade weapon options
Luckily he is cheaper and comes with a free multi melta. The only other option I'd take is the power scourge for killing knight equivalents, though I'm not sure weather I could achieve a similar effect with the Maulerfiend's tendrils for less points.

>on a platform that will last as long as a solo unmarked obliterator
That's what the 4++ from the formation is for! Pop a transport then massacre the crew in one assault phase. Or it gets killed and the enemy has to deal with 2 maulerfiends with rage.

>>52797268
Good point, sir. I will comply. Thank you.

>>52797057
>all those melee veterans
What are you doing.

>>52797057
>not giving your vets special weapons and chimeras

STOP

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Some more fun with Tau and Necrons, listmaking is fun. Someone has to post stuff about Necrons.
Shard squad being the shield for the Tau.

>>52797336
>riptide
(You)

>>52797311
They're just stealth and snare for charges. Works great, anon. Critique is welcome.

Question, with the 4x Navigators, they stack on denying reserve on the competitor, right? I know with 2 they stack, this would make it 6+ only for the opponent to drop his damn SM or Daemons on me, right?

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started painting my first minis, i think it looks okay for a first time but i really need to get some kind of shade for all the silver parts

>>52797057
>grav spam
Kill yourself.

>>52797336
>No Bonding Knife Ritual on the Riptide

Chet

>>52796265
It's pronounced "Beakiez"

>>52797440
It's fine, he clearly doesn't know what he's doing.

>>52797440
>>52797519
i think this is the guy who was entering his first tourney, so this list is cancer for a reason.

>>52797481
Oh I need bonding knife on units comprised of only one dude? Weird, guess a support turret can be traded for it. Shame, ruins the exact 1000 value.

>>52797519
>>52797534
Did a bit of reading on the Kataphron destroyers. Holy shit those things are worse than Riptides.

Does anyone have that image from like 6 months ago of the genestealer acolyte holding the demolition charge saying RAD. I thought I had it and can't find it, because I'm retarded.

>>52797534
Yeah, constructive criticism is wanted. Or just link to whatever instead.
>>52797519
Mainly just play with buds, pretty much just missions.
>>52797440
These other pricks bring all 3+ and huge detachments of Knights. Don't feel bad at all about spamming the Destroyers.

How dumb would this squad be if I wanted to add a Jump Pack Company Master and maybe a Jump Pack Chaplain for a superspeed deathstar?

Assault Squad, 70
+5 marines, 70
+Jump Packs, 30
+2xEviscerators, 50
+Veteran Sergeant, 10
+2xFlamer, 10
+Combat Shield, 5
+Power Sword, 15
Total, 260

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Am I overdoing it here?

I have IF tactics, so the plasmadevs have tank hunter and as such are my go-to anti tank

>>52797546
And with a Cawl and Dominus in one unit tanking shots they'll never die. Now give them prescience.

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>>52797654
This is the alternative

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Rate my ork list please. Have a 2k game coming up, its a pretty standard ork list but I feel it has enough bodies to sit on objectives in objective games, and if not win by whatever the objective is.

>>52797546
Now ask me which one I would rather play against with my 6+ t shirt save orks or gaunt heavy nids.

>>52797535
only if its farsight onclaves. otherwise kind of a usless upgrade in my opinion besides large groups of firewarriors, but even then firewarriors die very very easily so why bother.

>>52797742
Ya its enclaves, so the crisis troops and Earth Caste upgrade

>>52797717
Put orks into drop pods

>>52797717
Why are there riptides in your ork army?

>>52797817
Lootas?

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>People give shit to Tau players for playing with unpainted minis.
>Tfw I still haven't painted anything, but my Warboss for my Orks.
I run Dread Mob now, so it's even worse for me since it's almost all vehicles and walkers now.

>>52797826
Ah, I am new I have no idea what that means. I assume it wasn't a mistake then.

>>52797827
...How much stuff do you need painted and what kind of deadline would I be working with, and what level of paint job you want?

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>>52797827
here is some motivation for you sir. Even this shitty paint job, with basically and undercoat and rust, can make a large group of things presentable, and is possible in a single afternoon.

>>52797836
Lootas are a type of Ork unit. They loot (hence their name being a cockney pronunciation of looter) enemy vehicles and equipment. Because of the weirdness of orks they can use just about anything that is a weapon.

>>52797880
That's pretty cool they can do that

Free 4++ or 15 point 3++?

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>>52797827
more

>>52797892
Is this even a question? Are there special rules for a 3++?

>>52797904
I'm trying to decide on whether or not I should give my Company Master a Storm Shield or if his Iron Halo's fine.

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>>52796502
>Rumours of Armaggeddon and Catachan being destroyed
And those rumours in turned sparked rumors that the Orks were gonna get squatted, cause if there's a big fight happening on Armageddon nowadays, Ghazghkull's gonna want in.

And if the battle involves Yarrick then Ghazghkull will definitely make an appearance, Octarius War and the Tyranid's Shadow in the Warp power be damned! Which means if Armageddon goes the way of Cadia, then chances are Ghazghkull would be zogged as well (and let's face it: Thraka's pretty much the only memorable Ork special character with an actual model these days.)

So yeah, everyone from the IG players to da Ork boyz are a tad worried about GS at the moment. The only faction not anywhere near the GS chopping block right now seems to be the Tau, since they haven't really shown up in the books (not yet anyway).

>>52797892
Is 15 points less than 16% of his cost? If yes, take it.

>>52797848
I'm not asking someone to paint for me. That's dumb.

>>52797872
This looks great. I've never really figured out how to weather things, or to paint rust well.

Any fun formations for Space marines or Imperial guard?

>>52797827
http://www.feedyournerd.com/greggles-tabletop/trust-in-rust-20-dread-mob-vs-mechanicum-death-fest

>>52797827
Considering you can just use black primer and then paint the skin green for your boyz (along with red for the eyes, gunmetal equivalent for the dakka, and brown/bone colors for the teeth) for a quick paintjob, you're not in that deep a hole when it comes to not painting your models.

Got vehicles? Find some red primer and spray away! After all, it wouldn't be too much of a stretch for Orks to paint their tires red!

>>52797965
Its literally so easy a retard can do it.

Step one: undercoat with a brown.
Step two: use 2 coats of hairspray, let dry before appying other.
step three: undercoat with the color you want. In that example, yellow.
Step four: under hot water the hairspray comes off. So take a bad toothbrush, hot water, and scrub off the yellow paint. Now you have realistic random rust marks. And it takes about 2 minutes a model.

>>52797968
Emperors Wrath is super fun for Guard

>>52797958
Wait, 90x.16=14.4 so no. Close enough though, right?

It's more I know I should take it, but I also want to WYSIWYG, and it bothers me that every stormshield model I know of for Power Armor is for the right hand. Also because I want to give him a Storm Bolter.

>>52796690
Yes, I have completely collected and painted the Raven Guard 3rd Company.

>nbd

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Have a small 1250pt tourney coming up just for fun. Only allowed CAD and the Warlord has to be a named character. Hows this list? I don't have many models so I tried building it just off of what I have so tried to keep it fluff.

Idea is Death Company and Dread ride the Stormraven in to the back lines. Mephiston will go with the 5 man tac squad in the Razorback and the 10 man squad will try and stick close with the Baal Pred. Would it be better if I tried to fit in a DC Chaplin?

>>52794965
Ok, well look at the descriptions of the relics, and look at the squads or characters available to take them. Seriously, at some point new players need to start thinking for themselves and figuring out what works well on their own rather than come crying to /tg/ about every little thing

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Just for the keks I decided to try shoehorning in an Execution Force formation into my Mixedwing list. Thoughts?

>>52798203

Looks fun but will probably be destroyed by any semi competitive list

>>52798299
My main list which this was built off of is much better and cheaper, this is just for fun because I found the special rules on the assassins hilarious.

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>>52795111
>>52795426

I'll just leave this here.

>>52797925
Why would there be special rules for a 3++? It's the same as a 4++ just better.

>>52798515
I think you replied to the wrong post?

But anyways, I want to take the Storm Shield, but I'm going to be bothered by WYSIWYG, I know it.

Has GW given a rough timetable as far as when 8th will be released? I started getting into the hobby recently, but don't want to buy any codexes while they're at risk of becoming irrelevant so soon.

>>52798539
>if you have the spare points
Take it
>if you don't
Don't take it

It's literally that easy. Just plan your army list out in advance and you'll be fine.

Do the Chaos Gods benefit from the desires/combat etc from the beings of other galaxies or is limited to the Milky Way? Would other galaxies have their own forms of Chaos Gods?

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HERE WE GO

Bumped up the point count for one upset guy and fixed a mandatory item issue.
So... Would this be fun to play with/against?

The Necrons, Lord+Lych form a body wall that pushes into the enemy to add an up close element backed up by the Tau.

>>52798574
not yet but i've got the feeling we'll see something by the end of the year. 7th is about 3 years old now

>>52798584
Heck, I haven't even written up my list yet, but I probably should just take it. Do you know where I can get a left handed Storm Shield for power armor?

>>52798574
They've said it'll be this year IIRC so you may as well just wait a few months. Either it'll have a solid release day by then or there will be enough rumors to give you an idea of when it will come out.

For now you can buy a couple of models or something to practice painting.

>>52798615
It's never been really elaborated on. The warp is supposedly quite infinite, though beyond the edges of the galaxy there aren't really any beings to influence the warp, so there would be a large calm in the warp between galaxies.

Questionable whether or not the Chaos gods can reach across these, but either they can, and there isn't much going on there, leaving more of their focus here, or they can't, and other galaxies may have their own sets of Chaos gods that are also in their own little puddles.

I think the former fits into place better. Explains why Divination magic and all of Tzeentch's plans weren't suddenly thrown off forever by the Tyranids arriving. The gods can reach across the entire universe, or at least a large portion of it, but this might just be the only place with anything really going on. Or maybe the other galaxies have already drawn to a close, whether by Tyranids, Warp storm, or some race managing to bolster themselves against Chaos properly.

>>52798638
Vanguard box. Really when it comes to rarer wargear bits it's either in the sternguard box or the vanguard box, in duplicate.

>>52798704
Thanks anon! I hate how the combat shield is noticeably smaller, so I can't even use that and get away with it.

Guess I'll have to bits hunt, seeing as DA can't use either of those.

So on my bits list is a Sanguinary Guard jump pack and wings, and a Left handed Storm Shield.

>>52798638
>i haven't written up my list yet
>but i'm too busy fretting about a stupid storm shield
Write up your damn list already. It'll save you time and money in the long run.

>>52798636
>>52798660
Good enough for me; I've enough models here to work on painting and do a few small games between now and then, at least. Hopefully by that point I'll have a clearer idea of what exactly I want out of an army.

>>52798743
Nah, I already know some of the things I want, just not all of it. Like, I want a Company Master and Assault Squad for melee, but I don't know what else I want. If I go CAD, then maybe swap out the Company Master for a Chaplain or a Librarian, and give the Company Master Termi armor and and Storm Shield and put him with some Deathwing Knights for that sweet base to base T5.

>>52798615
The Chaos Daemon Codex says that the Chaos Gods hear and draw power from the thoughts and emotion of all sentient life in the universe. Nurgle is responsible for every plague that swept the universe.

Also when Ulthwe debated leaving the galaxy and going to a new galaxy, the response was that Chaos would either simply follow them there or just be already there waiting for them. There is no escape from from Chaos. It's omnipresent and eternal. It knows no limit.

>>52798778
even if it dropped tomorrow you would have people playing 7th for a while longer, not to mention tournaments would be running 7th for until august or so to work out the kinks

>>52798082
No one has any recommendations?

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>>52798082
>warlord must be a named character

where the hell can i download spaceship schematics/scans for 3d printing these damn things? like i'll even take ships from a different universe at this point. if it isnt the millennium falcon then it literally doesnt exist.

>>52798955
What's the issue with that?

>>52798839
No?
I really don't get why people post lists so often here. Unless they're new and something is critically wrong, 90 percent of them are going to be panned. There is no set formula to making a list. There are very few rights and wrongs. Unless you're playing in a super strict tournament that will require 100 percent optimized choices, 90 percent of the lists here are going to be "fine". There is no single meta. There is no single strategy or way of doing things. There is only war. How you wage that war is up to you. If know how to make detachments, have played the game, and know what's legal and what's not in your army, you're probably fine, unless you're new to the force. Even then, an experienced player should know the ins and outs of cost/return on points and the worth of certain stacks. Do YOU want a chaplain? How much is he worth? What benefits would you gain from a Death Company Chaplain? Figure it out.
I'm not trying to sound like an ass but good god there is only so much critique you can give a list in a game of 40k, and MOST of it is subjective and pointless to ask unless you just want to have a nice conversation. It feels like so many people post lists feeling panicked and worried that they did something wrong in their list that they can't see and only the wise sages of /40kg/ can help, but that's very rarely the case.

What color is Tau blood

>>52798619
>Would this be fun to play with/against?
>riptide
No.

>>52799060
Blue or purple I believe

>>52799060
Cyan if not oxidized.

Purple if oxidized.

>>52799024
>unless you just want to have a nice conversation
sounds good, I'll throw out lists and you admire them

>>52799024
Thanks for that. Still new to playing and haven't played a game past 1000pts.

>>52798619
Tau are never fun to play against. Every fucking Tau army plays the same, stand at the very edge of the map and abuse the fuck out of cover while you shoot everything that approaches you before they can charge by turn 3. Tau are for fags.

A) how fun would a necron army of mostly multilegged things (including FW) be? IIRC most of them are fast beasts.
B) can you run a competitive skitarii army without a knight? I love big robots normally but the knights in 40k look derpy as fuck

>>52799140
This. And it's a shame that they have very little difference between casual and competitive game play

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going against necrons tomorrow I was wondering if this list good enough

>>52799228
Good, but you should take 2 more Wyverns if you want to decimate him.

>>52799228
You need more stuff to crack AV13.

>>52799253
I don't have 2 more :(

Stupid question.
How do I get into 40k

>>52799228
I'd probably drop the hellhound and put the plasma vets in a chimera and take a 2nd wyvern. Granted you'll need to free up 5 points but you can probably do that by dropping grenadiers from the melta vets, they're in a chimera anyways.

>>52799279
What army do you like?

>>52798738
As a DA player, I used the parts from the vanguard box to make HQ characters and now have enough bits to last for a long time. It comes with a lot of great shoulder pads, unique heads, dynamic fancy legs, and ornate jump packs great for special characters.

>>52799274
Don't worry about it then. If you are going to fight Necrons on a regular basis, you probably want to invest on two more Wyverns in the future.

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>>52799295
Pic related, ignore the bad camera and paint job, I am color blind and have bad eyesight.

>>52799185
I had a Tau fag rage at me one day cause I refused to play him. I just very calmly explained I have no fun playing against Tau because every game I have ever played against them has meant me long slogging through the battlefield just to reach their side while being shot at.

Apparently I was being selfish because there was no one else to play against currently cause everyone else was paired up. I then told him I would have more fun not playing at all than I would playing against Tau. I then was told I should just look at his list first, so I did.

2 Riptides
Drone Screen

No thanks.

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This is my first list, do I switch a bike squad for knights?

The Librarian was recommended and I need some help figuring this out

>>52799279
Look up the lore of the army you like, buy a set of troops and paints needed, and go on from there. 8th edition will be here soon, so don't buy any rulebooks right now, just pirate them for the fluff and to learn how to play.

Unless you go to a GW, I would not advise pirating there.

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>>52799140
>storm the objectives with troops in flatout/jinking transports
>deep-striking/suicide crisis
>outflanking gun drones
The only fag here is you for assuming all players of a single faction play the same

>>52799363
>random point count
>list is arranged in an incoherent and messy manner
>doesn't even list what kind of detachment he's taking
I feel embarrassed as a DA player.

>>52799290
Don't know any armies.
>>52799367
So pirate 7 for fluff?
Where should I look up the lore for the universe?

I should say I don't know anything about 40k other than memes and that it's a wargame, wargames interest me.

>>52799396
Time to read then
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page

>>52799389
And here comes the salty Tau bitch who can't stand being told his army is boring and hated.