AFRICAN FANTASY ANSWERS: DEY WUZ SMITHYS edition

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>>52752603
You know, I'm impressed by the lack of anything. I would post the content here, but 4chan thinks the links are spam.

Will post folklore if thread is alive after work

t. Ashanti

>>52757107
Oh shit this is gonna be cool

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Gonna throw in stuff about the Himba because it's kind of interesting.
The Himba (singular: OmuHimba, plural: OvaHimba) are indigenous peoples with an estimated population of about 50,000 people living in northern Namibia, in the Kunene region (formerly Kaokoland) and on the other side of the Kunene River in Angola. There are also a few groups left of the Ovatwa, who are also OvaHimba, but are hunters and gatherers. The OvaHimba are a semi-nomadic, pastoral people, and are considered the last (semi-) nomadic people of Namibia.

Himba women especially, as well as Himba men, are remarkably famous for covering themselves with otjize paste, a cosmetic mixture of butterfat and ochre pigment, to cleanse the skin over long periods due to water scarcity and protect themselves from the extremely hot and dry climate of the Kaokoland as well as against mosquito insect bites. The cosmetic mixture, often perfumed with the aromatic resin of the omuzumba shrub, gives their skin and hair plaits a distinctive orange or red-tinge characteristic, as well as texture and style. Otjize is considered foremost a highly desirable aesthetic beauty cosmetic, symbolizing earth’s rich red color and blood the essence of life, and is consistent with the OvaHimba ideal of beauty.

>>52752603
Is that an alligator?

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>>52757107
>>52758112
>>52758188
Yay.

>>52758212
Yes, made into a scabbard.

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>>52752603
Bump

>>52758603
What is the lady with the Afro wearing? Looks like a jacket.

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>>52752603
What's up with African swords?

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Does anyone have any historical pictures of African warriors with their weapons and armour, preferably with some indication where they're from? You don't need to know the exact tribe etc. just some general "east-african/north-african/central-african/south-african/west-african" pointer is good too.

>>52765386
Pretty sure those are supposed to be used as throwing swords.

Basically, when the enemy puts up a nice deep square shieldwall, you throw some throwing swords in there. Their aberrant shape ensures that they keep jumping around between the shield tops, the helmets and more importantly, the faces of your enemy. They probably aren't really used as a lethal weapon, but more as a disruptive psychological weapon. You see those things coming down in your line, and you want to get away, but you can't because you're in a square shieldwall. That causes enough chaos in the ranks that the enemy can make an easy charge into your block.

Kind of the same idea as the Frankish throwing axe, except taken the jumping into enemy lines to an extreme.

>>52766294
That makes sense for the sickle shaped swords, but the long linear ones just wouldn't bounce like that. If anything I'd guess the spikes are to catch and tear away wicker shields.

>>52766340
The loss of bounce might be offset by the ease of aiming. A straight sword is just as easy to throw as a spear. A sickle-shaped sword has the same problem as a throwing axe. Wonky balance, so you have to throw it into some rotating flight.

I dunno man. Maybe it's just ceremonial or shamanic, similar to how European magicians and occultists used swords when doing magic.

>>52766392
Now are you throwing these swords overhand, like a spear? Or flinging your spears end over end?

Of course it's ceremonial. I was asking what's up with that.

>>52753949
If you took San women out of the bush and gave them a first world life style, they'd probably be the most beautiful women in the world.

>>52766392
(sorry for the salt I appreciate the content)

>>52758212
>>52758603
> alligator

Crocodile. Alligators are only in the Americas and China.

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>>52766403
>Now are you throwing these swords overhand, like a spear?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTC_1HRgbuo

I prefer Matt Easton's video on swordthrowing, but Skal is good too.

>>52766432
That's metal but also wouldn't work with anything that didn't have a straight spine.

>>52766458
Well, problem is... no one is going to try swordthrowing with one of those African antique swords. Who knows, maybe one of these days, some company starts making replicas and we can try it in real life.

>>52765386
>>52766294
I have no idea but I'd presume that they would be pretty good for parrying and redirecting spears and blocking clubs or something. Also ripping into flesh and causing immense pain if the opponent tries to move that limb.

>>52766340
this too

>>52766413
Maybe not. It's quite common for people in underdeveloped countries to suddenly get all fat and get British teeth after getting that Western lifestyle.

Obesity is quickly becoming the #1 killer on the African continent. Goes to show how the economies of the various stable African countries grow.

>>52767018
As it happens, one of the first gifts of Western civilization that tends to get to foreign countries, long, long before the modern medicine and wifi coverage and running water, is OMNIPRESENT MCDONALD'S BRANCHES. I swear, you're driving through Kenya and there are places where the houses are literally made of mud and straw and people walk around the "streets" naked with their goats, and in the middle of that village there's going to somehow be a McDonald's. Where it even gets water and electricity from, nobody knows.

>>52766413
>they'd probably be the most beautiful women in the world.
And then develop the most disgusting ego and attitude.

>>52767066
To be honest, houses made of mud and straw are pretty good.

There's a guy running a million-dollar company in my town, that makes villas using African mud-and-straw techniques. It's relatively cheap as fuck, and it is a perfect way to keep a house cool in the summer and hot in the winter. Even has a real low environmental footprint. You just gotta add some sealant to keep it from getting water damaged in Western climates. And the craziest thing is... he's using that African mud-and-straw stuff to build villas. Bigass villas for rich people.

>>52767018
>>52767066
There's also the fact that many less technologically advanced peoples are genetically predisposed towards fattening, since for God knows how many thousands of generations it's been evolutionarily advantageous for them to be able to retain the most out of what little they can afford to eat. It balanced out because they also had physically demanding lifestyles and food was scarce anyway. Suddenly allow them to lead "first world lifestyles" with ample junkfood and days upon days spent sitting down, and they balloon up in a matter of months.

>>52767116
>Suddenly allow them to lead "first world lifestyles" with ample junkfood and days upon days spent sitting down, and they balloon up in a matter of months.

Plus there's the psychological/cultural factor. It goes away after a generation or two at most, but it's noticeable in third world shitholes that've just now started seeing modernization. People are still operating under a "when there's food you should eat it" mentality aimed at maximizing their chances of survival. When there's ALWAYS food, they're just ALWAYS EATING, so they get fat fast.

>>52767116
That's wrong mate. All humans are genetically predisposed towards fattening.

The key here is education on proper diets.

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>>52763832
I don't know.

>>52766294
I suggest you go to the .pdf thread in here or one in his, request the Osprey stuff like "Warrior Peoples Of East Africa 1840-1900".

>>52765386
>>52766340
>>52766392
Please keep in mind that many of the outlandish examples, probably, are no more than badges of office or smiths showing their skills. One wouldn't use them any more than an european king would use his royal sceptre as a mace.

Also, the most eye-catching artefacts of any culture tend to be the ones preserved. This may lead to the Everest Fallacy:
>that is a tendency to illustrate a category by an example which is exceptional. The exceptional nature of the illustration is not made clear, and the illustration veils rather than reveals the normal. For example, Mount Everest is a "typical" mountain, Cicero is a "typical" new man, M. Aemilius Lepidus becomes a "typical" noble.
This is what lead to people thinking european swords were very heavy, basing themselves on the execution and cerimonial examples in museums.

http://www.oriental-arms.com/items.php?coll=3&cat=2&page=0

>>52766319
NOPE. WHOEVA STICK DIS IN DA STONE IS THE MAIN MAN.

>>52766431
Noted.

>>52767066
>>52767105
It's good in dry climates, of which Africa has a lot. One has to put more mud from time to time, but any dwelling requires some sort of maintenance.

>>52768951
>I suggest you go to the .pdf thread in here or one in his, request the Osprey stuff like "Warrior Peoples Of East Africa 1840-1900".
I forgot to mention, I'd like to see something from medieval days. No guns allowed.

>>52752603
What's the deal with this sword in the OP pic?

>>52769226
It's a straight sword. With a sheath made of a babby crocodile.

>>52769241
Interesting, given the context would it be safe to assume it was made in africa? If so, when?

>>52769273

www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVw1Ky_21Is

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>>52769021
There isn't much in the internet of that, AFAIK. Even M&B mods seem to lack this kind of stuff, and they have a lot of obscure medieval and historical equipment. This guy made a thread just to make such material available, for example:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?686248-Medieval-warriors-of-East-Africa-2D-Concept-Art-Project

She has other african realistic ahistorical warriors princesses, won't post all links to avoid 4chan thinkin I'm spam:
http://gambargin.deviantart.com/art/HWS-Medieval-Rev-Women-Warriors-of-Africa-WIP-467655521

This one has several:
http://byzantinum.deviantart.com/gallery/?catpath=/

The rest of deviantart is packed with serious "we wuz kings".

Subsaharan Africa is simply understudied in many ways.

>>52769226
Took from here:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=12707

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>>52752603
>DEY WUZ SMITHYS

And they are still at it!

>Brent Stirton; National Geographic;
>Tuareg master sword maker Abda Ahmoudou, 35, works on Tuareg swords in his workshop in Agadez city, Niger, 30 September 2009. Tuareg swords are seen as an important symbol for a Tuareg man but functions primarily as decoration and less as a defensive weapon nowadays.
>The best swords says Ahmoudou are made from the driveshafts of 1960's Land Rover driveshafts which apparently produce the best weight and the straightest piece of metal with which to fashion the sword. The swords can fetch prices often in excess of 150 000 CFA, around $350.
>"A man without a sword is missing something. Every Tuareg man must have a sword. It would take me a month to explain the reasons behind the Tuareg sword, every sword has a name based on the quality of the blade and the swordmaker".

Any Ethiopian stuff to share?

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>>52770509

>Brent Stirton; National Geographic;
>Scenes at the Agadez animal market, Niger 29 September 2009.

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>>52770544
One last Tuareg sword and I'm off.

>A Tuareg man poses with the sword handed to the Tuareg leader by the French after the Tuareg were finally defeated at the battle of Tit (1902), photographed in the desert outside the Tuareg town of Djanet, Algeria, on April 9, 2009.

>>52770509
>steve stop showboating with that coffee you're going to make a mess

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>>52770517
>Any Ethiopian stuff to share?

>Afar Tribe Girl With Sharpened Teeth, Danakil, Ethiopia
>Eric Lafforgue

>>52770654
Motherfucker he probably hasn't seen a camera in four years. Are you saying you wouldn't show off for the first picture taken of you in half a decade, especially when the other guy's making a sword? Fuck that, let Steve have his fun, it's probably the event that he's been getting hype for so he doesn't kill himself because he lives in a fucking desert.

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>>52770685
>Hamer Girl, Ethiopia (People) - National Geographic Photo Contest 2012
>Pascal Mannaerts;

>The Hamers are a people of East Africa living in southwestern Ethiopia, in a fertile area of the Omo Valley. The gracious Hamer women, freeing pride and dignity even in the midst of the bustling weekly market, are easily spotted with their characteristic outfits. They take pride in their dress and accessories and win the prize as the most decorated of the Omo people. The traditional dress code for unmarried Hamar girls includes elegant cowrie-shell collars, seeded or glass-beaded necklaces and decorated goatskin clothing.

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>>52770720

>Young Hamer girl, Turmi, South Ethiopia
>izla kaya bardavid;

>>52752603
Is this the African version of Ice?

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>>52770741

>Hamar couple, Omo Valley, Ethiopia
>Luciano Bovina;

>winner of Nikon Photo Contest International 1996

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>>52770765
All my other pics of contemporary Ethiopian seems to be heavy on guns and nipples, so lets jump back in time.

>Two Amharic women pose holding umbrellas to shade themselves in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, June 1931.
>W. Robert Moore; National Geographic;

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>>52770819

>1931, Addis Ababa, Ethiopia. St. George's Cathedral. Noblemen (they're wearing crowns made of lion's manes).

>>52765386
You think that's weird? You have only begun your descent into the weirdness that is indigenous African weaponry. Google 'African Throwing Knives' - that's what anthropologists call them, but most of them are almost certainly not intended to be thrown.

Anyway, Yoruba city-state setting when?

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>The Northern Stele Park at the town of Axum, Ethiopia.

I'm so proud of /tg/. 50 posts and no one has said nigger or made racist jokes.

I've been thinking of an not!African mech vs zombies type campaign for a while. One of the big aspects that I'd like to know more about are African secret societies. Because the setting I have in mind has a big, continent-wide clusterfuck ala the Congo Wars. One faction dabbles a little too deeply into necromancy and Eldritch gods and when they are getting their shit pushed they go for one last hurrah with an absolutely devastating ritual that finishes them off, but ensures that their legacy will haunt not!Africa for centuries. The nations as they existed are gone and walled cities have taken their place. But allegiances from the old order have persisted in the form of secret societies. Most are toothless and/or benevolent like the Kiwanis Society. But on the other hand you have groups like the Leopard Society

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>>52770900

>King Ezana's Stela
>The central obelisk still standing in the Northern Stelae Park. Probably the last erected one and the biggest of those remained unbroken. 21 m tall, smaller than the fallen Great Stela (33 m) and the so-called Obelisk of Axum (24 m, reassembled and unveiled on September 4, 2008).

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>>52770944

>Exemples de stèles non sculptées d'Axoum

>>52770916
While by no means secret and more commonly associated with Jamaica , the Rastafari are one possible source of inspiration.

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>>52770944

>The Rome Stele (known also as the Aksum Obelisk) in Aksum (Tigray Region, Ethiopia).

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>>52770964

>Obelisk of Axum
>24 metre, 160 tonnes, granite. Properly termed a 'stele', as it is not topped by a pyramid. It is found along with many other stelae, carved and erected during the 4th century A.D. by the Kingdom of Aksum, an ancient Ethiopian civilization).
>The Obelisk of Axum was collapsed and broken at the end of 1935, following the Italian conquest of Ethiopia. In 1937, it was taken as war booty and moved to Italy by the Fascist regime.
>The monument was resurrected in its original home and unveiled on 4 September 2008.

>>52770944
Thats pretty phallic

>>52771074
Africans have a weird fetish for phallic shit, and nobody really knows why.

>>52770916
>The plot is advanced by earning admittance to various secret societies through either feats of heroism impressing whichever community it's host to, or by winning your way into the inner circles through bribery, favor-trading, manipulation of public ceremony and general politicking. This lets you get the knowledge you need to try to trace the origins of the undead/eldritch crisis, and hopefully do something about it, at least weakening it locally.

>City-states exist in tributary systems, with some cities essentially taking protection money from the others and controlling trade but in return using their extensive armed forces to keep the pressure off the less fortunate ones. Unfortunately, this means perennial civil war as cities jockey for position during lulls in the undead crises. Not only will players need to make sure they get in with the right societies, politics both in and between cities will force them to pick sides and possibly wind up on the wrong end of a conflict.

>Discrimination against 'bushmen' who live outside the cities, either as nomads or in villages that have managed to survive without joining the city-state system. They're viewed as primitive, superstitious, innately criminal or feared to be using dark powers akin to those that brought about this crisis in order to survive (which, depending on the group, they might be). They're also responsible for feeding the city-states and guarding/guiding the trade caravans between them.

>Supernatural sicknesses spread in the cities like wildfire, decimating communities unpredictably and uncontrollably. To make matters worse, many of the less-well-off cities live only one siege, natural or supernatural disaster from famine, largely because the more powerful cities are hoarding food.

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>>52771149
>fetish for phallic shit
>nobody knows why

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>>52770744
See here >>52770342

>>52770916
These are the societies I know of:

http://www.liberiapastandpresent.org/RitualKillingsIndex.htm

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/dahomeys-women-warriors-88286072/

Note that smiths, shamans and witches also had some sort of secret society/guild, if only to pass over their arts and techniques.

>>52771149
Generally about half the population does. Otherwise the population would die out

>>52771225
Good ideas, but not really what I had in mind. I wanted a more recently post apocalyptic setting, with the city states still being somewhat isolated from each other and life outside the walls being virtually impossible because the zombieocalypse is still going on. Those who live outside aren't feared or loathed, merely pitied (and basically extinct).

The PCs will represent the first generation of well-planned attempts to re establish humanity outside of the cities.

>>52770975
Probably going to use that

>>52770819
>>52770839
>people sitting around being fancy three years before Mussolini's Big Fuckfest
It's an abstract kind of feel.

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>>52752603
throwing knifes and spear tips.

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>>52771705
wandering smiths

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>>52771729

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>>52771756

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>>52770916
This may be inspiring, map related

http://rvbomally.deviantart.com/gallery/40213575/Vivere-Militare-Est

http://rvbomally.deviantart.com/art/VME-The-Congo-Crisis-Part-I-643088181

https://www.alternatehistory.com/wiki/doku.php?id=timelines:vivere_militare_est

>What's up with the exclusion zones? Are they like atomic death areas, ultra-prisons, inhospitable areas, or controlled by anarchistic groups?
>All of the above, sans the prisons and with cults and horrifying supernatural creatures thrown in.

bhump

ijalu

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>>52770944
>>52771149
Yeah. Those crazy Africans and their weird phallic obsession...

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>>52776121
African culture is so primitive when compared to superior japanese culture.

>>52776121
the irony of this post is that that monument is based on Egyptian monoliths.

>>52771149
One of mankind's deepest, most primal desires is to fuck the sky.

>>52776934
For proof, look to the sky(sc)rapers

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>>52752603
>AFRICAN FANTASY
Could be cool if /pol/ stays out.

>>52758212
>>52766431
African dwarf crocodile, as that sword is a Sudanese Kaskara

>>52763832
Its a modern picture, so it probably is.

>>52765386
Swords like that, and the crazier hunga (throwing knives) are conspicuous consumption: Showing off wealth.

>>52766294
>Does anyone have any historical pictures of African warriors with their weapons and armour, preferably with some indication where they're from? You don't need to know the exact tribe etc. just some general "east-african/north-african/central-african/south-african/west-african" pointer is good too.

I got you. I do warn that the vast majority of it is textile.

>>52770598
I own some Tuareg pieces. They are amazing smiths.

I know this is 5e but

The Tuareg style swordsmithing sounds like it could fit an Artificer archetype in the same vein as the Gunsmith archetype

Improving and personalizing their swords until they're basically one with their weapon. That sort of thing.

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PCs and NPCs

>Nzinga Mbande, the Queen of Ndongo: "From there, she moved south, started a new country, conquered the infamous ruthless cannibal tribe known as the Jaga, began offering sanctuary to runaway slaves and defector soldiers, and waged war on the Portuguese for THIRTY FIVE YEARS." Plus she had 60 male concubines dressed in women’s clothes. Definitely a PC.

>Speaking of african PCs...
"Traveling - it gives you home in thousand strange places, then leaves you a stranger in your own land... At the banquet were present the Khān’s jugglers, the chief of whom was ordered to shew some of his wonders... With death all around him, perhaps he felt the need to go home. He was 45 years old and had been gone for 24 years."
http://orias.berkeley.edu/sites/default/files/styles/openberkeley_image_full/public/general/inbbattutamapsmaller_1.jpg?itok=pFAs6Jk4

>Swashbucklers with shotels and bucklers disguisable as hats and made from rhino leather. Go discover the secrets of the Indic Ocean, trading gold and ivory for damascus steel and peppers.

>Ever seen capoeira? Engolo, or N'golo, is (probably) its predecessor, and it is very similar to it. Said to be based on the way zebras fight each other. A particular tribe could have the totem as a zebra, and the mix of martial art and dance as a way of celebrate the ancestrals and court potential partners.
http://www.historyoffighting.com/art-blog/traditional-fighting-in-africa-engolo

>Shamans are also judges of crimes. Legal oral tradition is easier when you can invoke ancestrals and ask them about precedents, the deceased victim may be called to testify, and in some places non-human spirits may as well.

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>>52777937
>A whole harem made of dahomey virgin amazons:
"Dahomey is renowned as a 'Black Sparta'... The sound told every male to get out of their path, retire a certain distance, and look the other way... The scaling of vicious thorn hedges was intended to foster the stoical acceptance of pain... She then squeezed the blood off her weapon and swallowed it."
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/dahomeys-women-warriors-88286072/

>There's filthy rich, and then there's this guy:
"Mansa Musa had passed through the city making his pilgrimage to Mecca with thousands of slaves and soldiers, wives and officials. One hundred camels each carried one hundred pounds of gold. Mansa Musa performed many acts of charity... So much gold spent in the markets of Cairo actually upset the gold market well into the next century... In the later Medieval period, West Africa may have been producing almost two-thirds of the world's supply of gold! Mali also supplied other trade items - ivory, ostrich feathers, kola nuts, hides, and slaves. No wonder there was talk about the Kingdom of Mali and its riches!"

>Don't be afraid to have barbarian tribes, but don't make all of them like that.
"Sultan Mansa Sulayman was visited by a party of... negro cannibals, including one of their [princes]. They have a custom of wearing in their ears large pendants, each pendant having an opening of half a span. They wrap themselves in silk mantles, and in their country there is a gold mine. The sultan received them with honour, and gave them as his hospitality-gift a servant. They killed and ate her, and having smeared their faces and hands with her blood came to the sultan to thank him. I was informed that this is their regular custom whenever they visit his court. Someone told me about them that they say that the choicest parts of women's flesh are the palm of the hand and the breast."
http://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/halsall/source/1354-ibnbattuta.asp

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>>52777979
>Dragonslayer princesses like Thákane
http://www.rejectedprincesses.com/princesses/thakane

>Savanna druids like wildfires, they understand it is fundamental on the life cycle and idversity of the local biomes. Just like in modern times, druids will create controled burnings to avoid an acidental big one. They may or may not care if the local people and/or nomads survive this, which may or may not understand why what the druid does is 'right' but their slash-and-burn farming/transhumance is 'wrong'. Jungle druids don't get along with savanna druids.

>child heroes and people born specifically to be heroes. There are a lot of stories about a woman giving birth to a supernatural child, that can sometimes speak to them before it's even born. They usually come out the womb already as intelligent as an adult or sometimes with the body of an actual adult. Most times they're born to deal with a specific threat, some monster has started attacking the village, a punk hyena says it's going to eat the mom's children. stuff like that. But occasionally they're born with no noticeable purpose at all and just set off to prove how big their balls are like Makoma.

>>52777979
>"Mansa Musa had passed through the city making his pilgrimage to Mecca with thousands of slaves and soldiers, wives and officials. One hundred camels each carried one hundred pounds of gold. Mansa Musa performed many acts of charity... So much gold spent in the markets of Cairo actually upset the gold market well into the next century... In the later Medieval period, West Africa may have been producing almost two-thirds of the world's supply of gold! Mali also supplied other trade items - ivory, ostrich feathers, kola nuts, hides, and slaves. No wonder there was talk about the Kingdom of Mali and its riches!"

MFW I can never get enough gold to form the Kingdom of Mali in CK2. Why does Paradox hate west africans so much?

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>>52777999
PLACES

>Mali:
"There is complete security in their country. Neither traveller nor inhabitant in it has anything to fear from robbers or men of violence... The women servants, slave-girls, and young girls go about in front of everyone naked, without a stitch of clothing on them. Women go into the sultan's presence naked and without coverings, and his daughters also go about naked. Then there is their custom of putting dust and ashes on their heads, as a mark of respect, and the grotesque ceremonies we have described when the poets recite their verses. Another reprehensible practice among many of them is the eating of carrion, dogs, and asses."
http://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/halsall/source/1354-ibnbattuta.asp

>A citadel made of eleven-stories tall mudbrick buildings, fighting nomad raids.
http://www.hgesch-gallery.com/cities/Shibam01.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/c7/5b/b8/c75bb8a3ab6627bb6c9a96ff440b393c.jpg

>fortresses atop mesas. Their defenders include archers lying on the ground, using both arms and legs to fire javelin-sized arrows from elephant-hunting longbows. The guards are there to prevent anyone from kidnapping the exiled brother of the king.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amba_(landform)

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>>52778025
EQUIPMENT

>Pangolim scale cuirasses were rare but real, said by chinese to be very tough and reserved for high officers.

>weird-shaped shields lined with fur
http://www.rejectedprincesses.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/sotho.jpg

>It is either a machete or an axe or a chopper.
http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=6614

DWARFS

>Throwing clubs.
http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=3014

>Why build a temple when you can carve it out of the bedrock?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bete_Giyorgis_01.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Monolithic_churches_in_Ethiopia

(have I convinced you dorfs should be darker? No? How about...)

>the local smith guards his metalworking techniques as secrets which may give him a mystical status, like a mage and his apprentice. One of these secrets is using mud from termite hives to build his furnace. Instead of ordinary metalurgy and mages, one can consider magic users are artificers.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/etc/mhs/mhs10.htm
Note: this isn't really exclusive to african folklore, but the african continent has more beliefs about the special/mythical/magical status of smiths than elsewhere.

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>>52777979
>>52778057
That coat is from Rajasthan, India, not Africa.

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>>52778057
>Btw, WE WUZ BLACK SMITHS, you know, inventing carbon steel and shit, for the last couple milennia.
http://www.uh.edu/engines/epi385.htm

(And now?)

>Mmoatia are "dwarves " or "fairies". All over west africa we have these cognate hairy dwarves. They like caves and mountains in Mali, but in Ghana they love forests. The black dwarves are cool and might kidnap you to teach you magic sometimes.

>Red dwarves and white dwarves are sociopathic little fuckers who love stealing and tormenting people. Their master is the evil forest god Sasanbosam. As far as I know, they're like a mix of dwarves and elves/fairies.

>Follow very specific rules, and you can get great magic/power out of them.

>Fuck up the specific rules about how to deal with them, and you're fucked. Except instead of "OOOH YOU BROKE ELF LAWS NOW YOU'RE STUCK IN ELFLAND FOREVER!" they just eat you.

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>>52778077
I know. It is to give ideas of equipment for african fantasy. This isn't a weapons and armor thread. And while pangolins were spread across Asia, they are associated with Africa nowadays.

>>52778094
BESTIARY

>Be afraid of the hippo. It fucks up crocs and lions, runs faster than you, is very territorial and agressive. It kills more people each year than crocs, lions, elephants etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gdTOHWYVLM

>Flies kill horses, rhinos and zebras are unlikely to be domesticated? Who gives a fuck. Elands and giant elands are your fantasy/alternate history beasts of burden and mounts. Cooler, well-adapted to local environment and distinct.
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/middle-earth-roleplay/images/4/4d/Giant_eland_2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160515161322
http://sargassosart.deviantart.com/art/Ventus-Cultures-341525180

>Africa has a lot of monsters that devour people whole, like the Ugungqu-kubantwana, which is pretty much a living island walking on land.
https://abookofcreatures.com/2016/03/18/usilosimapundu/

>African monsters
https://abookofcreatures.com/tag/african-folklore/

>african witches
https://warosu.org/tg/thread/30685000

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>>52778169
>I actually forgot that one. I've read accounts of african witches creating a wide variety of zombies and other monsters as minions. There's also stories where killing a witch just creates a powerful evil spirit. I read a Hausa legend about how witches have small mouths of razor sharp teeth all over their backs. They can cause blight, storms, and plagues. And almost all of them shapeshift into creatures of the night or ride on them. The reference I've got here shows them with talking owls, baboons, and hyenas to deliver messages. And just about all of them are cannibals. There's an account of witches using nightmare demons to kill their enemies in their sleep through sheer terror.

>Another thing, there are a lot of spirits that seemed to focus on killing you in your sleep. I think one day I came across like a dozen creatures who were all some variation of "this thing comes into your house at night and feeds on/chokes out the life of children and the sickly. You usually have to keep them away with wards and such.

>African vampires have iron teeth and hooks instead of feet
http://vampireunderworld.com/african-vampires/
http://wraithdt.deviantart.com/art/African-Vampire-Hunter-551202284

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>>52778204
>According to legend, the Grootslang is a primordial creature as old as the world itself. Tales state that gods, new to the crafting of things, made a terrible mistake in the Grootslang's creation, and gave it tremendous strength, cunning, and intellect. Realizing their mistake, the gods split the Grootslang into separate creatures and thus created the first elephants and the first snakes. But one of the original Grootslangs escaped, and from this first sire all other Grootslangs were born. It is claimed to devour elephants by luring them into its cave. The cave is known as the "Wonder Hole" or the "Bottomless Pit". Supposedly, it connects to the sea which is 40 miles away. According to local legend, the cave is filled with diamonds. It is also said to live in warm rivers and lakes. In Benin, it is said to be a huge elephant-like creature with a serpent's tail. Also according to the tale, Grootslangs covet gems, particularly diamonds, and despite the creatures' lust for cruelty, victims can often bargain for their freedom by offering a Grootslang enough precious gems. While searching for treasure in the richtersveld of South Africa in 1917, English businessman Peter Grayson disappeared after members of his party were attacked and injured by lions, prompting legends that the Grootslang had killed him.

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>>52778226
SACRED CHIEFTAINS

>The idea of a 'sacred' king or chieftain was quite common in Sub-Saharan Africa. Or course, first and foremost it should be kept in mind that Africa encompasses thousands of different groups and cultures each with their own beliefs, but there were certain ideas that popped up fairly frequently.

>One belief that some cultures had was that the kings feet could never touch the ground for fear that his divine energy would burn through the soil and prevent anything from growing their again. Others so deeply tied the health of the king to the health and fertility of the land that he had to be without blemish and if he became chronically ill or disfigured he would actually be ritually smothered.

>Meanwhile, in Central Africa - I unfortunately can't remember the exact details of the cultural group or groups that did this but I believe it was in the modern-day Congo region - whenever a chief died the entire village he ruled from would be converted into a shrine. Eventually there were hundreds of these monuments spread throughout the landscape and apparently a bunch of them are still around today.

>"We thought elephants are our reincarnated kings and chiefs. But we did bury them with full honors if they died."

>"When our ancestors were tribals, they had bodyguards than sweared migthy oaths to bind themselves to they chiefs, part of the oath was to kill themselves after a year and one day of the dead of his employer, and in that time they had to kill the perpetors of the dead of his boss. So, any tradition like that were you live?"

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>>52778244
TOTEMISM

>Most African clans at some point thought their ancestor was some sort of animal, or was saved by an animal, or their ancestor saved the animal. This created an affinity with the creature.

>The Bush soul is usually a bigger, stronger, and more powerful version of the real thing with sometimes a noticeable peculiarly like albinism. Most typically have wild animals for bush souls, bust women often have domestic animals for bush souls.

>People have the ability to project their "bush soul" into the totem of their clan.

>Killing a bush soul will kill the person attached to it, but killing a person's body while they're projecting their bush soul causes the bush spirit to run wild and even become a malevolent spirit.

>Sorcerers can capture other people's bush souls and use them to do their bidding, or sell them.

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>>52778272
MISC

>Duality plays a big part in a lot of culture's where monotheism hadn't really taken shape yet. I know some people in Africa regarded twins as being supernatural and possessing magical powers. I remember reading a story that said that all the Gods were born with a male and female partner and that they needed each other to form order. One time a Male god tried to form a universe on his own, but it all unraveled into chaos without his other side.

>Foodstuffs are made from sorghum, millet, yam, breadfruit.

>Baobabs are the most important and representative trees. Its breafruit makes it the "tree of life".

>African (mostly western) folklore and history.
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/38388096/

>Sikh, Berber, Bedouin and Pashtun people
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/49940009/

>Ancient Egypt
http://www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/index.html

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>>52778077
Meh. I was just pointing out because specifically African equipment was requested. Whatever floats your goat.

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>>52778362

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>>52778470
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>>52778364
http://www.liberiapastandpresent.org/RitualKillingsIndex.htm
>ritual killings, cannibalistic practices and voodoo-like ceremonies.

>"When on killing expeditions the members dress themselves more or less in leopard skins (....). In some instances they carry a net which they throw about the body of the victim. They are armed with sharp iron hooks in the form of leopard's claws and teeth, and also carry short spears. (....). Usually the victim is attacked suddenly along the trail at night (....). As the men slay in bands, the victim is supposed almost never to escape. The bodies of the slain are cut up and the meat distributed often to other members of the tribe, including the women. (....). Human flesh is the fetish of the society, and the consumption of it is believed to give special power. (....), the killings, it is said, are primarily made that the flesh may be eaten ceremonially in order to vitalize the charm of the society; that thus strength may be brought to the members and protection given to the community."
(Strong, 1930: p. 101).

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
>They cut his throat and spilled all his blood on the brass ring, and from that time on, all the activities of the village revolved around the 'brass god': sacrifices, worship and all. But when the gospel came, we threw the ring away and turned to the true and living God." (Guenter, 1992: p. 58/59).

/POL/ wards
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-gruesome-history-of-eating-corpses-as-medicine-82360284/
http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/europe-s-medicinal-cannibalism-the-healing-power-of-death-a-604548.html

>>52778362
>Whatever floats your goat
I learned a new expression.

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>>52778597

Shona > ndebele
that is all

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>>52778608
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=522351866

African warriors of the Late Antiquity/Early Middle Ages
>This mod is historically authentic, not accurate, because many of CAs units are hypothetical or historically non existant, so while this mod does not remove those units, it does seek to make them more accurate to the real Aksum.

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>>52778824
>>52778510
Would you know what kind of polearm is that?

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>>52778855

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>>52778855
Masai lion hunting spear. They have two main spears: The longer, thinner sword-like lion spear, and the more traditional leaf-blade shaped buffalo spear.

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Another interesting thing: Leopard cults. Worth googling and reading the reports.

>>52779013
fucking furries

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>>52778943
Wasn't one of them used kinda like a gladius, together with a spear?

>>52779013
>>52778523 Here. The site also mentions the Snake and Crocodile societies.

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>>52765386
Could be ceremonial perhaps instead of being intended for practical use.

>>52776772
obelisks*

>>52772024
>grob doitsu meme
>allied Iran and Saudi Arabia
>partition of Jordan and Egypt
>Iran-Iraq war borders? (that tiny Kurdistan!)
>Spanish Africa (mostly former French colonies)
>colonial era South Africa ate Botswana
>Manchukuo
What the hell are you smoking and are you willing to share with the class?

>>52770544
>psh nothing personnel kid

wheres my ritualized homosexuality? where pre-teen boys give blowjobs to the village men and swallow

>>52777937
>that pic
Fula for the win.

Marlon James is writing an African fantasy series right now. I'm quite excited for it.

WE WUZ KANGZ

>>52777937
>the Anyi

CHINKED

>>52777295
I tough the Tuareg and Sudanese bought whenever they could Euro blades and pimped them out to the local style, while looking at takoubas and kaskaras a good lot of them had Spanish or, more commonly, german inscriptions.
>>52779013
>I'm Kawai, nyaaa?

>>52781188
Cape-Verde is 1000x better.

>>52752603
The Sahel: could it produce a series of mongol/turkic-style empires?

One is cold steppe and desert shading into temperate, the other is hot steppe/savannah and desert shading into tropical savannah and in both cases nomadic pastoralism common.

From what I can gather the Sahel kingdoms were primarily the creation of settled peoples in areas where agriculture was possible, and centred around control of the trade routes with Ethiopia and the Arab world. Nomads like the Tuareg feature at the edges as traders and bandits but don't have a larger impact.

So could you see hordes of savannah horsemen burst onto the scene, trample thrones with sandaled feet and slowly assimilate into the conquered cultures until the next wave appear and begin the cycle anew? What would have to change to make it happen, and what cultures beside the Tuareg could you base such conquerers on?

For sake of argument let us assume remove the Tsetse fly from the picture.

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>>52784047
I could see Berber or Hausa empire (more or less they actually did that) based on that.
Did the Fulani use cavalry?

>>52758188
I want a cocoa waifu

I want butterfat smothered all over my face

>>52758603
Anyone happen to know what language that is above the English? It looks like Ge'ez to me but it looks slightly off.

>>52778094
>I've found my replacement for halflings and gnomes in my game full of Mandingo hero children
The most amusing part of this thread is when you incorporate African mythos into a game, and the players have no idea the fuck is going on at all.

>>52778294
>Baobabs are the most important and representative trees
>looks like a big dick
Some things are universal.

>>52770916
It looks like /pol/ has finally gone back to their containment board. We better create good threads and discussion before they venture out again to wreck everything they touch.

>>52788082
Shush, anon, they'll be back.

>>52777295
Thats petty badass.

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>>52770916
>not!African mech vs zombies

Bumping with content

>Robot/North African Dude combo, by Ed Mattinian

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>>52788778

>Witch Doctor, by Storn A. Cook
>The idea for a Victor von Doom-like Witch Doctor. I like this one a lot. Fun to do African themed heroes and villains! -- "As President-For-Life of Azambia, I approve of this portrait."

>>52788778
Forgot to add:
>FutureTribe, by AphexTal (Eoghan Cowan)

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>>52788829

>Big Five: Buffalo Breakdown, by Robert Chew

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>>52788857

>Big Five Part 2: Cape Buffalo, by Robert Chew.

>Employed in large herds of real buffalo these units patrol the herd providing real time data and intel on the animals and the terrain around them. Accompanied to each unit is an entourage of miniscule bird shaped UAV's built to mimic Oxpeckers. These little spies can easily transfer between the animals extending the observable area by many times. Due to the aggressive nature of the animals in protection the operator must remain at a distance from the primary herd. It is advisable to use either suppressed, air powered, or traditional weapons (bow and arrow/crossbow) so as not to scare the herd causing a stampede.

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>>52788898

>Big Five Part 3: African Elephant, by Robert Chew.

>With heavy armor, incredible strength, and great size the Elephant is employed in the field as a walking fortress for the patrols. Each unit is accompanied by 3 - 4 rangers. Depending on the situation the unit can be deployed as a solitary Bull Elephant or a Matriach which accompanies the herds. Matriachs are unmanned and lack the features to support human companions due to the close proximity to the herds.

>Typical roles of a Bull model featured here include supply/troop transport, mobile communications, heavy recon, night patrol platform, heavy lifting/obstacle clearing, and heavy support roles in combat.

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>>52788919

>Big Five: Elephant Breakdown, by Robert Chew

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>>52788933

>Big Five Part 4, by Robert Chew

>While the other animal models are employed primarily for reconnaisance and defensive roles in the field, the Lion serves a purely offensive role. Employed in packs, 1 ranger usually operates with 3 – 4 units. Rangers often combine their teams together to form prides. Like their real life counterparts the units hunt in large groups and communicate with each other through a closed wireless network giving each other real time data on positions, terrain, and proximity to their target. The operator can connect at will to each individual unit. Lioness units can be equipped with back mounted cameras to allow manual control. Typically the Lion will serves as the main hub with the Lioness's routing through.

>To better serve their role as the offense Lion models are lightly armored with few solid pieces of armor. Most of the body is exposed artificial muscle covered in ballistic fabrics. As such replacement of parts is much easier to complete in the field. Teeth and claws are made of tungsten carbide which keeps an incredibly sharp edge. The teeh and claws are retractable allowing for non lethal take downs when required. Another feature are the sliding eye covers located above the ears. They provide extra eye protection as well as multi spectral views for different situations and wide angle input.

>Male models are bulkier around the head with more armor and much stronger jaw muscles for a more powerful bite. They also have a large gorget type armor piece around their neck which protects the Lion during charges. Transmitters and other communication equipment are stored in the back of the head along the upper neck.

>Lioness models are lighter and stealthier than the male models. With less bulk and weight they are able move quickly and quietly. Some come equipped with camera units located on the top of their back.

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>>52788957

>Mecha Lion Breakdown, by Robert Chew

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>>52788977

>Big Five Part 5, by Robert Chew

>The role of the Leopard consists of stealth, light recon, and as a force multiplier. Leopards are very lightly armored consisting mostly of exposed artificial muscles and the canvas covering them. Their greatest asset is the active camouflage system. The spots on the Leopard are evenly spaced and staggered with one full spot and a ring. Through visually sampling its surroundings the rosettes adjust their color to match. The information is passed on to the next rosette over which blends with the others. Perfect invisibility still has yet to be achieved, but when working in the bush the Leopards ability to blend has proven to be incredibly useful. (See chroma sub-sampling, thermo-optic camo from GITS, and active camo from MGS4)

>Hunting and tracking behavior is more or less the same as it's real life counterpart. In most cases Leopards are deployed as solitary units consisting of the Leopard and ranger to provide tactical support to the other animal squads in the area. Perching and ambushing from tree's is a popular tactic. Since it is lightly armored Leopard models can move quickly and quietly, able to maneuver and reposition with ease without giving away it's location. The paws are padded to help lower noise signature. Like the Lions, the claws and teeth are made of tungsten carbide and are retractable. The eye covers provide different viewing spectrum's and wide angle fields of vision. The daytime operations model has the tan/white covering while the night version resembles a Black Panther with deep blue/black coverings.

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>>52788997

>Mecha Leopard Breakdown, by Robert Chew

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>>52789017

>Big Five: Mbangaru and Farai, by Robert Chew


>Journal Entry Ranger Jonathan Mbekezeli

>Zimbabwe, Hwange National Park. Rhinoceros re-introduction program. March, 2157

>Our little Rhino orphan Farai is doing much better than she was 3 months ago. We found her barely alive next to the corpse of her mother who was taken by poachers. Since she was just a few weeks old her horn was too small so they left her to die. When we found her she was dehydrated, distraught, and exhausted.

>We brought her back to base and got her back on her feet. It had never been tried before but we introduced her to our old Rhino drone Mbangura. I don't know much about drone AI systems or any of that stuff but Mbangura seems to enjoy looking after little Farai! An Oxpecker hangar was installed on Mbangura and we let the two of them roam around the area outside of HQ. Mbangura takes Farai around the reserve and shows her where the water holes are, all the different animals in the park, and watches over her at night. He brings Farai back to HQ so we can give her milk and check on her health.

>Farai is a cute one. She's very animated and curious. She's gotten into a few tough spots with some of the other rhinos but with Mbangura around she has nothing to worry about.

>Researchers from around the world have come to see the pair. Drone specialists are especially interested in Mbangura, specifically his AI core. The shift in protocol was unexpected and unprecedented. Mbangura is an old combat drone we received from the military. We used him extensively in busting poaching activity and he's fought with other drones on multiple occassions. For him to be displaying what appears to be natural parental animal-like behavior has become an issue of intense speculation. We've argued to keep Mbangura with Farai, and so far we've succeeded. I don't know what's going to happen next or how long we can keep him.

>All I know is that Farai can't lose another parent.


hnnnnnn!

Does anyone have anything for Madagascar?

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>>52789060

>Big Five: Rhino breakdown, by Robert Chew

>>52766413
We did, over the course of 60000 years or so. Now we call them "white women"

>>52777295
>Could be cool if /pol/ stays out.
But anon, don't you know that there were no african civilizations!?

Disregard that this idea is a myth invented as part of a justification for slavery that has no basis in fact.

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>>52789200
mudhuts, mudhuts, mudhuts, & mudhuts. Am I right or am I right?

>>52789284
Reminds me that I saw Ashanti coppers in museums both in London and in St.Gall.

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>>52779221
That would be the Seme. Here is mine.

>>52781639
Hakuna Matata

>>52782824
Back in the day, yes, but they are still accomplished smiths in their own right.

>>52778272
STANDO POWAH

>>52782824
Same reason Saxons were expert goldsmiths yet still bought Roman Gold.

Exotic shit.

>>52792709
What's the balance like on it, compared to similar blades?
Is yours authentic, or near enough to what you can find on a market?

>>52767157
>All humans are genetically predisposed towards fattening.
>The key here is education on proper diets.
Some ethnicities gain and hold weight better than others.

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>>52793449
The balance is incredibly forward heavy, used for chopping and stabbing. It is authentic in the fact that I actually got it while in Africa. The blade itself is actually a reshaped and reground British produced machete from the 1940s. The Masai are not dedicated metal workers.

The sheath on the other hand, is masterfully made. Ochre dyed cow leather, hard stretched over wood, with glass trade beads on the belt loop, and the chape cap made from brass.

Trying again for some Madagascar anon