Horus Heresy General /hhg/

>>52750863
WB are worst legion

You are beautiful
All hail the new breadanon!

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>>52750863
>>52750883

Reminder of how the Heresy started in the first place:

Phaeron and Lorgar sat one night
The skies were clear, the stars were bright
The wind was soft, the moon was up. Phaeron drained his coco cup.
He licked his lips he felt sublime. He switched off Emperor’s Question Time.
Lorgar cringed in fear and dread as Phaeron clasped his hand and said:

Let's Chaos, let's Chaos, Chaos while the Warp is right.
I'm ready to sell, a heretical
Faith - I've got an appetite.
I'm on fire
with desire.
I could mindfuck half the Astropaths in the Telepathica Choir.
Let's Chaos, let's Chaos tonight.

But then Lorgar said:
I can't do it, I can't do it, I believe too strong in Daddy Emps.
A rejection to defection
Stops us being spiky plebs.
No derision
My decision
I'd rather watch the building of my daddy's vision.
I can't Chaos, I can't Chaos tonight.

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>>52750883
You mean best

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>>52750902

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>>52750902
No

>>52750897
So he said
Let's do it, let's do it, do it till our souls go boom
Go davinite,
A new god a night,
Pentagram in the living room.
This want
for a confident;
Quick we'll use the sink as a baptism font!
Let's Chaos, let's Chaos tonight.

But he said
I can't do it, I can't do it, my worshipping days are gone.
Now see here, Monarchia
Makes me think religon's a con.
I'm imploring-
I'm boring-
All the goat's blood would ruin the new flooring!
I can't Chaos, I can't Chaos tonight.

>>52750920
Triggering terran preunification humans pleases the gods
>>52750930
Fuck you Guilliman, you are just an autistic infidel

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>>52750920
> They translated Allah to Allah

>>52750640
>>52750651

One, holy shit. I guess this is why Archmagi don't have an EW option, even without the deathstick. Does he have a model yet, or can I convert one? Can't see him on the store.
I'm not usually one for running named characters if I don't Counts-As My Dudes, but I'll keep him in mind if anyone gets too smug about the "Muh Primarch" beatstick competitions.

>>52750703

Now this is more my style. Sad that 40k Admech lacks tarpits, I enjoy workaround strategies like that.
Judging by
>>52750721
>>52750732
>>52750803
>>52750876

I'd need two or three units to screen everything properly, but more chaff is never that bad of a pick. So smash him with an arty volley and tarpit the remnants of the escort with him?
I like the Tyranid-ness of the list, big stompy monsters coordinated and buffed by keystone leaders and surrounded by expendable chaff.

>>52750890
I was just picking up the slack, no idea where the old one's gone. It's kinda fun writing all the summaries, though.

Is it just my captcha horizontal grid that has vanished? Threw me off more than I'd expect.

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>>52750964
>Being this mad you will NEVER EVER be Ultramarines

:^)

>>52750974
No models yet
But with some conversions this could work

if you do plz send me the rest of the stuff in the box, I want them for SoS conversions

>>52751009
>Copying Iron Warrior's tactics
Now I understand why you didn't see Calth coming

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>>52751041
shit forgot image

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>>52751009
>be genius
>get fucked by fulgrim and have to be revived by eldar witch
>proceed to suck off eldar and talk shit about humanity for the next few Millennia
Really makes me think

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>>52750863
Which legion would have this as a symbol?

>>52751098
White scars. Motorbikes, innit.

>>52751041
Ah, good old Bitzbox Cawl. How would you make SoS out of him?
I may well get him for parts, but I like my Admech a little more stripped down and simple, he's a bit cluttered and schizophrenic. Bottom half possibly combined with some Cron parts and the FW Archmagos would probably look decent, though. I'll have a look.

>>52751133
Sorry what I meant was the celestine, bodyguard and greyfax you get with him in the box, was also just a joke :^)

>>52751098
The legion of perpetual stabbing

>>52751122
Nice digits.
>>52751219
So the Night Lords?

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>>52751098
Iron Warrious
Perturabo built a clockwork ball-stomper to use on his officers if they displeased him

>>52751295
I thought that was Guilliman's invention, refining Dorn's pain glove in the same way as >>52751009.

>>52751295
That almost makes sense.

>>52751009

Why do they even -write- this Blandmarine wank?

>>52751194
Oh yeah, forgot that he came with a harem. I can probably trade them with my BA friend, he had an army defined entirely by golden armour. Sanguinary Guard, Custodes, some SoS, Dante and so on.

>>52751502
Is your friend Donald Trump?

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someone got some links for the newer 30k books? Last one i read was pharos, which was pretty meh... not bad, but not really good. I wanna check before buying the next ones.

pic semi related

>>52751652
Try the OP links.

>>52751061
>be lorgar
>lose to said genius
:^) really makes you think

>>52751853
When did lorgar lose to Guilliman?

>>52751526
I don't know if it's possible for his friend to compensate THAT hard

>>52751894
>calth
>inb4 but muh master plan he lost on purpose

>shadow crusade
he needed angron to save his ass

bonus for lorgar getting BTFO by the raven lord on istvaan

>>52751009
>master of myriad disciplines of war
>still refused to use Alpha Legion tactics

>>52751935
Lorgar wasn't on Calth, Guilliman was on his knees after receiving a blow from Illuminarium when Angron arrived and Lorgar started to do his chanting to turn him into a daemon.
Corax almost killed him, that's true

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What legion would use this as a symbol? DAs? ECs?

>>52751984
>Hated then Alpha Legion's decentralized and fluid command structure

This seems to hint strongly at Guilliman being against democracy, and having the desire to be a dictator.

>>52751984
>Alpha Legion tactics
>i.e. wasting the Emperor's time waiting for your enemy to fortify just so you can prove how good you are
Gee I wonder why he doesn't use those """""""""tactics"""""""""".

>>52752024
Dark Angels. Those guys are all about obscure symbols that hint at secret circles and groups within the legion.

>>52752022
>Kor Phaeron carved out Guilliman's heart
>Guilliman was on his knees after receiving a blow from Illuminarium when Angron arrived
What is it with WBfags being unable to get basic facts right?

>>52752058
Oh but Guilliman already hated everything about AL tactics before that. Alpharius then pulled those tricks trying to make a good example of why his idea of warfare is effective. Not a good way to give an example to defend your standpoint, but then again the primarch all seem to be a bunch of idiots now BL had their way with them.

>>52752101
Oh, it's you again. The anon who knows nothing about what actually happend at calth.

Kor Phaeron put an anathame to Guilliman's throat. Then kept babbling so much that Guilliman had the time to get his powerfist in position to tear Kor Phaeron's heart out.

I know Trump makes it look like if you repeat lies enough people will think it is true, but that only works on poorly educated idiots with no free will or thought of their own.

>>52752022
>Lorgar wasn't on Calth
true but he planned the attack

>Guilliman was on his knees after receiving a blow from Illuminarium
It struck him but it only caused him to stagger

>>52752178
>Kor Phaeron put an anathame to Guilliman's throat. Then kept babbling so much that Guilliman had the time to get his powerfist in position to tear Kor Phaeron's heart out.
This isn't the same thing as carving the Guilliheart out.

>>52752239
Exactly. Because that never happend. Kor Phaeron was so bussy stroking his boner over the fact he had a primarch on his knees and a blade to said primarch's throat that he failed to actually do anything with it.

He is a Word Bearer, so he failed to consider the fact that Guilliman has enough common sense to grasp the opportunity (and Kor Phaeron's chest) to retaliate, rather than sheepishly listen to Kor Phaeron seremoning.

>>52752239
>>52752300
Sounds like the retarded scene of a retarded author.

>>52752188
Losing the war on Calth is only Erebus and Kor Phaeron's fault, the first one for being a coward and the later for trying to corrupt Guilliman instead of just killing him. Obviously the Ultramarines fought well and knew how to adapt to this new kind of enemy. Lorgar did everything quite well since Istvaan V but he failed permitting Erebus do his plans and not just executing him for his failures.
I am not saying
>blabla Lorgar is the best, Guilliman fail lol
I just think the evolution of Lorgar since Istvaan was to a more powerful primarch and not just the weak priest he was before.

>>52752178
>I know Trump makes it look like if you repeat lies enough people will think it is true, but that only works on poorly educated idiots with no free will or thought of their own.
So, Word Bearers?

>>52752352
It's mainly WB being retarded I think. They're just as mentally insecure weak as humans after all, with no drive or will to do anything unless there is some sort of (imaginary or not) higher deity that tells them what is right and wrong.

>>52752178
>>>/pol/

>>52752115
>implying that battle wasn't Alpharius simply trolling Guilliman.

>>52752556
>using an entire battle just to annoy an ally
Such a great tactician :)

I'm reading Scars, and I realize how desperately I want Chris Wraight to do a Blood Angels book.

Anyone know a good way to convert something into a passable Xiphon? Personally hate the ubersnoot of the FW model

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>>52752731
>Not liking the Xiphon model

>>52752731
>Personally hate the price of the FW model
FIFY

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>>52752731
The 1/32 Battlestar Galactica Viper MkVII by Moebius Models is similar in size and has been used by an Anon on here before to represent a Xiphon.
http://www.clubmoebius.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=916

Just needs some appropriate weaponry added to complete the conversion.

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>Legion is getting shit on 24/7

I'm used to it by now :^)

Post army pics you filth.

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>No nipple horns

shit/10

>>52750863
What will be the next boxed set after Prospero? I need more plastics in my life.

>>52752831
Why do people want nipple horns? They looked clumsy.

>>52752731
>>52752818
Their MkII is probably useable too, it's a little boxier as well.

>>52752831
They are on his back

Maybe they move when he becomes a daemon

>>52752831
Those proportions are fucked

look at his legs

>>52752838
We probably won't get another onr for a while. Because GW hates money.

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>>52752863
Shit.

>>52752820
Hey those are some pretty good termin-
>notices Lorgar's face
Whyyyyyy.

>>52752754
nice gif

I like the fireraptor and have one in the mail; if FW had something more 'flying wing' like I would be all over it.

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god damn

>>52752892
Consider that BaC came out in time for Retribution and BoP tied into Inferno then the next box set must be DA fighting NL and should come out in time for Angelus, so never

>>52752854
You know the Ho-229 varient in Wolfenstein? I would kill for that thing

>>52752846
Maybe because those have been one of the most concistent and iconic parts of Magnus' look ?

They mook clumsy and unpractical, but this is GrimDark ffs, where we have psychotic enhanched humans clad in tank-level armour go at eachother with fucking chainswords whilst screaming prayers to their respective deity's. Leave your realism at the doorstep plz.

But I guess the model is in line with everything else concerning Inferno : a huge fucking disappointment.

>>52752927
He's a big guy.

>>52752820
Fucking clean your room, by the primordial truth...

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>>52752820
Literally the only unit i have finished, i jsut cant stop myself working on my DP :(

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>>52752820
Superior red and black legion comin' through

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>>52752820
That's a nice army anon, really like the sergeant. Lorgar's head look strange.

Here's my EC, working on 20 supports and the dread's base atm.

Sorry for potato quality

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>>52752831
>dat rock surge
> dat not-over-the top armour
> dem STAIRS
your tastes are space-wolf teir m8

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Like this: anyone know anything about where to get something like this?

>>52753019
Yeah Lorgar's head is fucked up. (This is anon)

I'm swapping it out for a helmet very soon though, just have to acquire it.

>>52752984
Yeah shelf is dusty as the Thousand Sons. Will do it momentarily ;)

>>52752895

See above >.>

>>52753019
>HELP BROTHERS I AM FALLEN
>Should we help lord commander?
>Let's see what our Primarch thinks
>LOOK I HAVE A NUMBER

>not a single 3rd party has jumped on the market with primarch helmets

fuck my life

I'd pay like $20 for a single helmet

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>>52752943
That particular variant is fictional, but there are nice 1/32 Ho-229s available.
https://hlj.com/product/VOLSWS08

>>52753072

For Lorgar I'm going to see if the GW Finecast Sauron helmet will work. It looks neat and hopefully it's big enough.

>>52753019
It's like the dreadnought's having a temper tantrum.

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>>52752820
Finished my first squads this week. I have another 10 man mk III if you want to see them

>>52750863
Fuck resin RELEASE MORE PLASTICS YOU CUNTS

>>52753166
No.

>>52753151

The lighting combined with the direction they're looking makes your guys kind of creepy looking, as if they're all staring into your soul...

Post the MKIII as well!

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>>52753088
Bless you anon!

>>52752831
> Pretty baller

I'm still not sure of Magnus having acess to all the diciplines, should at least not let him use biomancy

>>52753188
why, justify your point

>>52752820
Niceu Niceu
What bits did you use to make that one unpainted guy behind the Terminators? He looks awesome!

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>>52753172
PLEASE CUNT

>>52753188
>the guy who invented the disciplines in the rulebook shouldn't have access to them all

>>52753039
Would probably pick up some Stormraven turbines and then a mix of autocannon/lascannon barrels to have jutting out in between the cockpit and the original engines location. Depending on differences of size between the intakes and whatnot.

Next question, would it look better in Luna Wolves or SoH with D day style invasion stripes?

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>>52753175
I painted them a few years ago when there was only resin in HH but I got fired and couldn't afford getting more miniatures. Thank god I didn't buy more because the paintjob was horrible. I restarted this year into the hobby and I've been trying to fix them (also got the BoP box in christmas) so I am glad that you like them anon.
Here is the first mk III squad. I am working on a rhino and tartaros are next, then I have 25 marines to paint and a spartan, wish me luck!

>>52752613
I don't really care about the argument one way or another, but the way Guilliman completely looks down upon the Alpha Legion's insurgency and infiltration tactics, when they were proven to work, really does put a crimp in his claim that he's the most flexible commander ever.

>>52752927
Magnus was always described as being a giant compared to the other Primarchs.

>>52752927
> (You) vs the guy she tells you not to worry about

>>52752457
>redirecting to the Trump Fanclub

>>52753376
You play Warhammer, you are literally playing the right wing death squads.

>>52753117
Good choice. Plus it alludes to the crown of horns he'll have when he becomes a Daemon Prince.

>>52753452
He probably plays tau or something.

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>>52753151
>finished
>red studs

>>52753468
Good point anon, I hadn't even notice that when I painted the metallics. I'll fix those tomorrow I promise.

>>52753261

Like the black helms. I should start doing that for my army.

>>52753221

Ahriman from BoP with some shaved bits, the Tartaros Terminator smooth helmet, a chaos star from a rhino, and a spikey thing from either the Chaos Rhino sprue or a Skaven Verminlord sprue. Thanks anon!

>>52753518
I use black helmets in veterans and sergeants, they give a distinctive look to them. Do you think the whole squad of tartaros terminators should have them though?

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While I can guess he could stomp all over Lorgar, are they any other Primarchs he could defeat one-on-one?

>>52753637
Alpharius, if they ever got into close combat. Probably Perturabo too.

>>52753637
Fluff or crunch?

>>52753637
He isnt that god damn Tribune so...half of the Primarchs?

>>52753637
angron: no way
kurze: nope
magnus: maybe, if he manages to actually physically fight him
Guilliman: nope
Vulkan: would be quite a fight
Horus: I believe he actually used to do sparring matches with Horus and sometimes won, so maybe
Ferrus: don't think so
Russ: perhaps, but don't think so
Dorn: maybe

>>52751475
Because 30k Ultramarines aren't sues, or so they say.

>>52753992
Doubt it on Horus; the talon derps opponents the more it hits them. Furry Prime shits on eberyone so Valdor isnt winning that one either. Can ANYTHING stopped a fully fueled Angron melee nuke?

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>>52752820
Nice Blood Ange-
Oh...

>>52753830
Was thinking crunch

>>52753840
I'm pretty confident they're gonna nerf the tribune in the FAQ, it's easily the biggest complaint at the moment, also I'd expect the dreadspears D rule to be re written so it functions like the paragon spear rule

Also what are out theories on what exactly the Misericordia is? I'm on board with the idea that it functions as a power sword since the boltstodes have nothing else to help them in melee and they dont have relentless to back off and shoot the attacker

>>52754124
>When Kor Phaeron interrupts your meditation to tell you that soulbroken Eldar resurrected Guilliman

>>52754176
76% sure its a powerdagger/power sword. Least that what my group plays it as

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>>52754124
Reminds of a famous character in the Bloodborne General.

>>52754176
Fluff and crunch most primarchs put him down gently. The manlet primarchs like Lorgar and Alpharius probably go down.

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>>52754212
>3 adolfs

>>52754352
I don't know the whole story, but I think that Adolf went through some changes.

>>52752927
>6'1" vs. 5'11"

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>>52754385

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So I scored a Thunderhawk Gunship. I plan on useing it for my Thousand Sons. And I am looking for people's thoughts on removing the paint and the Aquilas. I already have a plan of action but it never hurts to hear from others.

>>52753637

Lorgar could use any psychic power...

He doesn't stack up against the other primarchs, but Valdor ain't a primarch.

He's on a whole lower tier.

>>52753564

Probably not. If anything just the sergeant.

>>52754405
Another anon pointed it out; what can I say? boomerangs with guns studded to them look cool. Who says only the elftards get nice looking birds?

>>52754443
That is very strange an out of scale model of El'Jonson.

Axe+sword is a really weird weapon combo from a fighting style perspective. Does Lee "The Man" Russ just run at shit flailing aimlessly?

>>52754443
Nice; if you have some spare resin find something that strips paint and wont melt the resin as well. yadda yadda thin yer paints

>>52754176
>also I'd expect the dreadspears D rule to be re written so it functions like the paragon spear rule
Most people assume the Dreadspear rules were a mistake anyway, and that you only get 1 D strength hit per 6 you roll.

>>52754204
I'm 99% on this.

>>52754495
Furry Prime most likely does the tardrush*tm. Something something WOLFYWOLFYWOLF

>>52754495
That is how he beat Magnus, so possibly.

What do you guys expect to see at Warhammer Fest in little over a month? Hopefully Sanguinius or a Blood Angel Contemptor will be WIP by then.

>>52754610
Not a SW player, but I think/hope we may see some early models for their legion-specific stuff. At the very least that would allow SW players to decide whether to wait for those or convert their own.

Other than that, I'd personally like to see some more generic praetor/centurion models - on a bike, on a jetbike, with a jump pack, that sort of thing. Stuff people can then use as a basis for converting their own dudes with whatever weapons they want.

Oh, and arlatax battle-automata. Where the fuck are they, forgeworld?

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>>52754610
I both hope for and dread a model for Scoria showing up, since I really want to see what they do with him (and make shitty paint memes of him just to add to the gallery) but also that'll mean I no longer have a justification to convert my own to fit in with the aesthetic without being a massive cheapskate and looking shit in comparison, and the model will probably be really expensive. Ah well, recasts exist at least, and judging by MI's Primarchs tend to not stick a stupid premium on characters much.

>>52752927
> Shill out for travelling halfway across the country
> Spend a night at a hotel
> 75 pounds just to get through the door
> probably another 75 for the model

I wish I wasn't poor

>>52754495
Yes

>>52754495
Accurate re-creation of the Fenrisian fighting technique:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml_NAhhACTY

>>52752927
Shit, that's bigger than a fucking Dreadnought.

>>52754610

Valdor, Aquillon Terminators and weapon conversion kits.

>>52754704
Last weekender they said their was an experimental model, but the studio didn't like it and they had to start from scratch. Now they have no plans for a Scoria model. Maybe in the future.

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>>52752927

WHEN
WILL
THEY
LEARN

>>52754862
Day of the measuring tape when?

I wish they would release models for all the units that have rules before making more, the fact that some characters and even legions specific units like the AL's termis haven't been released yet bothers me.

Plus dont tell me Kyr Vahlen's model wouldn't be amazing

>>52754610
Supposedly something relating to Custodes, so I'd assume Aquilon Terminators. Probably something for Wolves as well.
Also, heads for knights and titans, obviously.

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>>52754610

ARLATAX

>>52754610
More bananastode stuff, maybe some Spess Yiffs, more bananastode stuff again, surprise appearence of some Solar Auxilia, (nah).
Mechanicum would be neat

>>52754443
An odd Leman Russ conversion but I'd play against him on the table.

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>>52754918
Well it certainly gives the impression they don't care that much about certain units/armies.

I guess we AL have to be content with have the most glorious looking contemptor of them all.

>>52754176
Yeah, the Tribune was damn silly to have like that; its a mistake one would expect from whoever the fuck though Elfdar books in 40k were balanced...*shudder*...those were dark days.

>>52754918

Some of the units will never get models. I for one hope the ordo reductor artillery tanks don't get models, since I'm converting my own and I want to see some tears from them first.

>>52754788
How did they make it to M41 again?

Got another question from other 16th legion anons; how do you prefer to make Reaver squads?
Are 10 man, Jump Pack+Chain axes+Chargers okay?

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>>52755269

They altered their tactics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu0wGPP3AuM

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>>52755355
Thats dangerously cute that is

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>>52755254
My thoughts exactly. With Solar Aux and Legion tanks already out I doubt they'd waste their time and money on a Mechanicum variant, honestly, given they're perfectly willing to leave half our units without models for years anyway.

Mine will probably be de-eagled Basilisks with shortened barrels, Servitor crew and some Mechy bitz and chemical tanks dotted around, since they were expendable as hell and so don't have to look fancy.

>>52755394
If your feeling enterprising, maybe a Katyusha rack built onto the top of an Onager crab-spider tonk? I think it would be pretty badass and Mechanicum-y

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>>52755394

I think I figured out a way to combine the Legion Medusa with the old FW Hydra kit and 3d-printed parts to allow for an artillery tank with a turret, kind of like a batchat 155. I do hope it all works out. On the plus side, now that the Ordinatus Project has hit a tiny snag, I should be able to give the ORATs a look over this week.

>>52755466
What went wrong with the literally sonic Ordinatus? That thing sounded awesome.

>>52755456

Be a bit hard to fit it on properly, though. Maybe I'll do something like that for any Whirlwind-types I make for horde clearance.

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>>52755538

The circuit is built according to the diagram, but it doesn't work. No sound produced when I start it up. It's evident I need to ask someone for guidance on what I did wrong, because I have no idea what is happening.

Can Zardu Layak and his blade slaves join another unit? They can't, right, because they aren't ICs? Like a Command Squad.

Hey guise, is the "How to create your own legion entries" still there? With the correct font type and all?

>>52755732
They can't, but I wish stuff like the Blade slaves or the Beep Biopsy functioned like those Tau drones, which don't prevent the bodyguarded IC from joining another unit and bringing his boys along for the ride.

>>52755394

Anyone know a recaster doing IMPERIAL BOMBARD? I need this babe for ordo reductor rain of shame!

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Fuck, so I got some coffee in me and crunched the math on that 1/32 scale Ho-229...~21" wingspan, (approaching Tau manta span). The 1/72 scale has a wingspan of ~9.3" which is more in line with the Xiphon. Cool, its cheap but uncool that its out of fucking wack size wise.
Drone it? Last resort, could saw the wings off and fuck around with the core of the bird to 'Imperial' it up more. Fucking fuck. Anyone want to pitch ideas my way?

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>>52755938
Put it on a taller flying stand, claim it's at a higher altitude.

>>52755732
If the blade slaves die Zardu Layak can join another squad

>>52755828
Miranda Irene does some, but they basically convert the pound cost to dollars, which isn't too much of a saving. No idea about the rest.

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>>52756023
Lol, I like your style anon; local that guy likes to run Eagle Day Nightlords/flyrant spam; lets show him why he needs balanced armies

New battlereport from miniwargaming, posting it because one of the guys played Ironwing which I'm pretty sure is rare:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gibejxxnluU&

This was pretty interesting for me as I'm slowly assembling my own Irowning and I'm watching it for some ideas on how other people play it. I am however really not sure about using two breacher squads in land raiders instead of more tactical squads in rhinos for more buffed bollters,

Is 30k more balanced than 40k?

>>52756326
There are some balance issues but overall it's quite a bit better. You have retarded shit like the custode shield captain, but you get less of the 40k formation spam bullshit.

>>52756326
Yes, beyond some outlier wierdshit. Trust me when I say 40k had me running to the hills by the Elfdar book of the Gathering [Shit]storm

>>52756202
>Eagle Day Nightlords
High Noonlords

>>52754443
Bit late on this reply, but Biostrip 20 is a decent paint stripper for metals, plastic and resins. Doesn't reek like some other stuff, takes anywhere from 15mins to strip the first layers of paint, and longer for more. Plastic and Metal are fine after hours n the stuff, but don't leave resin in the stuff over night. And stip it over multiple sessions. Use hot soapy water and a brush to take off the paint etc. Just be careful with the temperature (never boiling water) overwise you'll soften the resin and damage it with the brush.

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Buying a Sokar Stormbird for my Custodes and replacing the turret gunners with Servitors. Pilot will just be a Custodian. Turrets will also just be Lascannons.

Sound decent or what else should I add/change?

You recommended RFI podcast, i listened, they cry about people not playing fluffy lists, then Ryan says he chopped off all his salamanders thunder hammers and gave them chainfists. Get fucked you waac hypocritical faggots.
Latest episode, the other guy is saying FW should send the rules to the 'wolf pack'? because the 'secret podcast community' are apparently games designers? This guy is utterly brainless, what a fucking stuck up cunt.

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How do you guys like your Superheavies? One giant gun or covered in various Dakka, Stormhammer style? Flyers, Walkers or ground vehicles?

Personally it's got to be the giant tanks and planes cruising along shooting in every direction, Guns of Icarus style. I just can't make an Imperial Titan gel with any army in terms of aesthetics, even if they look reasonable on their own.

So what units are now going to be great with the rumoured 8th changes?

>>52756601
Stormbird always sounds decent, go for it anon

>>52756601
Needs more whale. Otherwise, sounds awesome and would have an epic psychological effect showing up with two thousand points of bananas inside. Seems like with their small-squad organisation that would likely be most of the task force, too, which is also cool.

>>52756234
That may be one of our own anons, somebody was talking about bringing ironwing to a batrep game on one of the bigger gaming channel recently.

Heartbreaking to lose on the DA's stupid bonus VPs rule. Damn good effort by anon (if he is indeed ONE OF US).

>>52753992
Fluff wise he beat a youngish Horus in a duel. I say youngish because Leman was there to spectate the thing so the GC was ~10 years in.

>>52756711
Volkite will be better with armour save modifiers - more kills against power armour, means more bonus hits, of which a greater proportion go through armour again.

However, the biggest change I think we might see revolves around the humble power sword. With an armour save modifier it becomes worthwhile to take against 2+ saves, and without unwieldy I think we may see a whole meta shift in terms of character loadouts. Also means units like IF templar brethren and TS occult cabal who bring all power swords become threatening to a lot more units.

>>52756901
Personally I'm hoping they make Thallax guns actually good, and give me an excuse to load up on Heavy Bolters on the Whalebird.

Flamers in general will probably get a buff, which will be fun against the Death Guard.
Also, Irrad Engines will switch from"fuck you Tacticals" to an omnivorous diet of leaving everything with a 4+ or 5+, which is probably a buff.

>>52756901
Im all for more CHOOM; what are they planning to do with vehicles however?

>>52753992
wtf is this list? lol.. what universe are you talking about? cause it aint the same 30k as the rest of us

>>52756822
Same, wish he took some Tacticals and Rhinos and kept more tanks alive.

>>52756957

If 8e follows SWAG, then Thallax guns will be S7 Save Mod -2, meaning 2+ to wound a spess mareen, and 5+ to save the hit. They would be better than now, but still not the go to weapon.

>>52756656
im 45 minutes into episode 51 and the hosts are whining faggots about Games Workshop being evil, 8th edition will ruin 30k and "the great community' being ruined.
The autism is real

>>52757062
Well, I wasn't expecting them to become exactly godlike since at most they're half an autocannon per model while costing more than a Terminator equipped with an actual one, but it's nearly double damage compared to before (not quite because Rending). Really they just need to pack Assault 2 or something, three shots for around 150 points just doesn't cut it.

>>52756901
>TS occult cabal who bring all power swords become threatening to a lot more units.
Somehow I dislike Transexual Sons even more

>>52756901
buff to assault squads with 2 power swords?
how about power sword vet squads?
any specific legions you can see being buffed?

>>52756901
>and without unwieldy
Taking that away affects fists and axes more than it does swords.

Supposition is pointless for the time being, however. There's just not enough information out there yet.

>>52757318

Blood Angels with +1 to wound, drowning the enemy in save mods?

>>52757340
how about the rumoured 'charging units go first regardless of Init' ?
units / legions which are better at getting the charge would be buffed right ?

>>52757374

SA Veletaris Axeguys would become relevant, sort of.

>>52757374
EC are getting cucked and I guess WE receive the most out of it

>>52757374
That's gonna be fun with thunderhammers.

>My unit of terminators with ALL the stronk melee weapons that used to be unwieldy to balance them charged your deathstar
>I win.

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>>52757407
Im strangely okay with this

>>52757374
Praise Ursarax! Makes Lightning Claws on them worth a damn. Also probably makes Mech as a whole better just because all our non-Automata units have shitty I.
I imagine Power Scythes becoming a tad monstrous if it doesn't still reduce strike order, too.

>>52757407
Seems to me that the legion with squads that can run and charge would make the most of that.

>>52757339
No, I meant if power axes/fists are unwieldy and swords aren't, but swords are actually worth a damn against 2+ saves, then we may see a lot of people changing their sergeant loadouts over to AA + power sword.

>>52757374
That's one of the rules I hope they don't add. The thought of grots going before a Keeper of Secrets pains me.

>>52757468
Vs MEQ, claws are better than fists on ursarax

if only you played a game with a ton of MEQ

>>52757479
Sometimes I forget SW exists in the mess that is Inferno and I am a better nan in those time

Also charging from Rhinos is pretty nice

>>52757535
"But if you roll a one to run, you don't get any bonus!"

"Grey Slayers can't kill off a whole tactical squad in one turn without casualties!"

>>52757535
>Also charging from Rhinos is pretty nice

My AL are gonna love that to no end. Even if it is some kind of 'disordered charge' and only from stationary rhinos, the options it adds ... Hmmmh

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>>52757523
They are, but a 10% increase in damage doesn't make up for having the entire unit's attacks blunted by one 2+ sarge that exists in every unit and becoming more or less useless against Termies, vehicles or Primarchs. The Unwieldy doesn't matter a whole lot because I2 was striking last anyway and they can take a couple powerfist hits if it means they can hurt the wielder. I have other tools for Tactical blobs, but the artificer sarges on everything make AP3 pretty damn useless too half the time, I'm not sure what the idea behind that upgrade was.

>>52757576

*Macrocarid Intensifies*

>>52756822
That's me, I wasn't on miniwar gaming. I'll be on 30k channel in a couple of weeks. Still trying to decide what to do since I got a pair of Malcadors and I'm not sure if I should run them.

>>52753088
I see the Custodian Equinox as resembling a Horten IX.

people complaining about WS glaive, when the UM bullshit axe exists.... ?

>>52757745
The glaive and the axe were a mistake.

>>52757745
I guess the WS glaive can be taken by sergeants, while the UM axe is IC only.

And anyway, the blade of perdition is more ridiculous than the legatine axe.

>>52757745
The difference is that any random mook that is at least a sergant may hold a WS glaive, whilst the UM axe is for independent characters only.

>>52757745
Can't put the axe on a sargent.

>>52757776
blade of perdition is fine because only hqs can have it

also they are an actual fucking assault legion unlike the other two

>>52752239
How the fuck did gulliman survive the anathame when Horus, the most powerful primarch could not

>>52757799
Because Guilliman is a Sue

>>52757799
Because Kor Phaeron didn't do the 'Name Your Target" thing with his anathame.

Word Bearers a shit.

>>52752859
Wait isn't everyone's calf longer than their entire torso??!!

>>52757799
Did Kor Phaeron forgot to tell Siri, I mean the blade, to kill Guilliman by naming him to it?

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>>52756711
>>52756901

What are y'all talking about? It has already been said that 30K will keep the current Rule set while 40k will be more stream lined leaving 30k as the war game for more advanced players. Also I'm not trying to hop on the baby edition. I don't know why they think we need a new edition when we really just need some fucking competent codex writing.

>>52757792
>white scars aren't an assault legion

>>52757856
Alan Bligh said something about always following whatever the new edition brings. But seeing as he isn't in full control of the heresy rules, we might still get 7th ed.

>>52757856
Also if you think that forgeworld is going to rewrite those massive black beautiful tomes, you are lit.

>>52753992
>beating russ
>maybe

>>52757877
Not on the level of world eaters or blood angels, no. Neither of those have ap:2 at initiative +1S weapons for all of their sergeants.

>>52757967
>Not on the level of world eaters or blood angels, no
But yes.

>>52757799

Because Kor Phaeron used his ATHAME - a confusingly named ritual knife held by almost all Word Bearers, and certainly by their officers. Use them for sacrifices and things, can cut open the warp with them to summon Daemons. The ANATHAME is the Daemon weapon that wounded Horus, and is now in the possession of Fabius Bile (minus a few chips taken off it to turn into athames for the very very important Word Bearers - only Erebus is shown to have one thus far)

>>52758026
Sorry anon. White Scars have a cool gimmick, but they don't have the gene/nail induced rage of the Ninth and the Twelfth.

>>52758098
>the only way to be choppy is to be angry
Are you arguing that EC are a shooty legion too?

>>52758135
Nope, but they don't butcher and kill almost everything in CC like WE or BA.

>>52758098
sorry anon but if you genuinely believe Scars aren't an assault legion, go swallow a revolver

>>52758170
Have you read Brotherhood of the Storm, the Khan in that couldn't comprehend not charging into glorious melee combat until he got half his company killed and started listening to the Terran guy.

>>52758194
On the shooting to melee balance, they are more weighted towards melee, but I'm questioning why they can give paragon blades without the instant death to every sergeant.

>>52758353
I actually haven't. About to finish Scars right now.

>>52758359
Because of grorious chogoris steel folded over 1000 times, terran pig.

>>52758359
Because their glaives are made of the finest folded nipple steel

Fucking weebs.

Anyone recall the conspiracy that Alpharius was heavily augmented or part robot or something? Considering he's basically got a Necron weapon I remembered it coming up a while ago

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>>52757776
>>52757779
>>52757780
>>52757753
What about a whole squad that has those I4 AP2 weapons? If you think the White Scars won't get a full Jetbike squad armed with Power-fuck-Custodes-Glaives, then you're mistaken.
If power swords are going to get more powerful in 8E, and the squad charging is going to get +1In in melee, then I don't want to even imagine what those weapons will do.

>>52756234
isn't that Ironwing list illegal? To many non-tank units? Number of tanks has to be greater than or equal to non-tanks.

>Praetor
>Chaplain
>vets
>dread squad
>breachers
>breachers
six non-tank choices

>land raider
>land raider
>land raider
>Pred squad
>whirlwind
five tank choices

>>52758490
Don't worry anon. They will balance it out by giving all the sanguinary guard blades of perdition.

>>52758504
MWG has never given a shit about the actual 30k rules.

>>52758482
Something Dorn's bodyguard, Archamus, mentioned about Alpharius seeming more machine than man. Although this was in a room with two other 'Alpharius' so who knows.

>>52758504
Didnt he have rhinos? Do the units have to be tanks, he had 2 dreads.

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>>52758508
I know it's not a joke...
A full squad of artificer armoured Assault marines armed with Swords of Double Wounding. It'll be like flying Suzerains but worse and nobody will EVER be able to call their shit because everybody likes Sanguinius, and how his legion is as fast as the EC and as choppy as the WE, where assault cannons are more common than fucking Heavy Bolters (and the chapter version has psykers and fast tanks) only because they're red loyalists.

>>52758618
Wrist mounted assault cannons and blades of perdition for every marine above sergeant. Also make Sanguinary Guard WS:6 for some reason.

Just like Sanguinius intended.

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>>52752820
Everyone I have playable. There's a Rhino, a Contemptor, Ahriman and 3 other vets on my painting table in various stages. I'm really slow, as I find it challenging even getting to tabletop quality, to be quite honest.

>>52758653
>>>52757559
"But if you roll a double one to charge, you don't get any bonus!"

"Sanguinary Guard can't kill off a whole Primarch in one turn without casualties!"

>>52758717
So it begins.

>>52753261
Silver faceplates are nice.

>>52758767
At least the Blade Cabal is balanced, since you're guaranteed to make them all S7 T7 AP2 and invisible.

>>52758833
I thought tson units were just invisible and S7 T7 AP2 all the time?

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>>52758833
>Mfw it's witches

>>52757133
Something's got into the water with the podcasts since adepticon, I had to switch one off the other day that was two guys arguing about Prospero Burns, the guy who hated it could argue well, but his actual whole point was that he wanted it literally just be the other side of the battle in ATS but with Bjorn as the POV char (so not arguing the actual quality of the book) and the guy who liked it couldn't argue for shit so made no headway whatsoever, despite trying to stick to talking about the actual book and not made-up wished-for headcanon. Shit was cringe.

>>52758852
...That's what I said.

>>52758071
I thought Erebus gave out daggers made from shards of the anathame to a half dozen guys, including Kor Phaeron?

Not that it matters, if he didn't name the target.

>>52758918
Oh okay, making sure I wasn't mistaken.

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>>52752820
Just finished a mortis dread to shield my squishy artillery.
I'm thinking it needs some transfers though.

>>52758928
>if he didn't name the target.
Maybe he couldn't help himself and named Robot Gigabyte or something and the Anathema didn't get it.

>>52758942
>LV
I can't decide if I like the chipping or not. I think the light is making it just look like a messy cast. Maybe some light wash in there to add contrast?

>>52758942
Looks very nice. Which Contemptor model is that? I don't recognize the upper chestplate, and it's clearly not the IW-specific Contemptor.

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>tfw american politics is ramping up to street weimar battles and the alt right side is dressing up like fallout

I'm hoping we eventually see some of /ourguys/ with Legion icons painted on their wargear to bash some commie skulls in, lads.

>>52758982
Death Guard

>>52758962
>Robot Gigabyte
I prefer Rowyourboat Downthestreamlyman.

>>52753300
>Guilliman completely looks down upon the Alpha Legion's insurgency and infiltration tactics, when they were proven to work

Guiliman hated the alpha legion's tactics because they often left a conquered planet's infrastructure destroyed, which integrating them into the imperium harder.

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>>52758962
Perhaps he said
>By the powers of chaos undivided, I command this Anathame to kill Roboute Guilliman
And the Anathame responded
>There's no way his name is actually pronounded Rowbooty...RIGHT? xDDD

>>52758987
What is going on over there ? Why is the US becoming more and more of a clown fiesta lately ? If I didn't know any better I'd start to think that the Alpha Legion is having a field day stirring shit up in there.

>>52758655
looks really good anon.

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>>52759176
It's pretty great. Commies started attacking white nationalists and Trump supporting alt liters - and they're now getting their asses handed to them. Tomorrow will be another Berkeley with Richard Spencer at Auburn.

Also a good idea; National Action in the UK popularized skull-masks for nationalist street activism, if the nationalists are going to represent any legion it has to be the XIII. Skullmasks + midnight blue helmets and the death's head = glorious

though Night Lord tactics suit antifa more desu

>>52759233
>XIII
>Night Lords
getting your blue legions mixed up there fella

>>52759289
oops

VIII

fukken numerals

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here is my autistic power ranking, please rate

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>>52754495
>Axe+sword is a really weird weapon combo from a fighting style perspective
Using both would make sense for a regular marine officer. It makes less sense if both your weapons are AP2, but I guess you could use the axe like a hook to weaken the enemy's guard and to deliver powerful blows, while the sword remains a balanced all-rounder that can both attack and parry.

If I had the points, I'd use a power fist and a sword not unlike Guilliman. I think gauntlet and sword is a legit fencing style

>>52759332
Switch Blood Angels and World Eaters.

>>52759233
Ugh, humanity really is sliding backwards lately. Why does nobody seem to understand anymore that physically assaulting people that don't believe the same things you do is like the best way to make sure they'll never side with you.

Untill you have enough marines to opress an entire planet at least.

>>52759332
Biased much/10

>>52759332
I'm not even sure what this is supposed to be representing? Is it how autistic those legion's typical players are or how autistic the actual legions are? Or are you describing yourself as autistic and this is just a power ranking, fluff or crunch? Because none of the ways I have described make sense on that scale.

>>52759332

>Night Lords at the bottom
>cant even come up with a single counter argument

We really are just a shit legion

>>52759365
>Using both would make sense for a regular marine officer.
Can confirm, my Chaplain makes good use of the Sword/Axe combo.

>>52758504
I questioned him in the comments for the video. Since it's an odd number he was given the option to round down.

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>>52759365
>If I had the points, I'd use a power fist and a sword not unlike Guilliman. I think gauntlet and sword is a legit fencing style

>Not fighting with a swordfistshield

>>52759398
Means your autimo levels are low bro. I'd consider it a good thing but if you identify that way.

>>52759889
While I agree that is a good way to gentleman's agreement the issue if the other guy doesn't want to back down but I still think that they are playing the rule wrong. May be that FW intended the rule to be played the way you said but the wording is pretty iron cast. It says that at least half of the units in the army must be vehicles with the Tank type, RAW you can't play with an uneven number of units unless the greater chunk of them are tanks.

>>52759894
I thought about that one, and it's pretty much a different kind of gauntlet. Add a combat shield (with a flashlight) to a chainfist, and you've got pretty much the same thing.
It's so spiky that it'd give off a traitor vibe, don't you think?

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>>52759894
Also
>not adding a gun to said shield
:^)

>>52759932

I thought that was a worse position.

>>52760001
If I was playing him I wouldn't care, his list wasn't cheesy in the least bit, quite under powered to be honest.

>>52760149
Oh yeah definitely, he had such an under powered list, but then again the Iron Warrior list wasn't great either. What's the point in playing the hammer of olympia if you aren't running 4 heavy choices?

>>52760176
Dat free extra armor bro!

Had an ebay coupon so I bought a some BoC Cataphractii.

How'd should I kit them out? I'm so tempted to just make 5 dual LCs because they look so fucking awesome. Love LCs that are talons rather than wolverine claws.

>>52760252
Lightning and volkite.

>>52760252
Powerfists and a chainfist if you're gonna send them in against things with a 2+ save, lightningclaws if you're sure you'll have them only fight power armour and never have to charge through terrain.

>>52760252
For god's sake, 'how should I kit my cataphractii/veterans/etc?' is such a useless question because it depends on what you want to do with them and there are so many possible options. It depends on what your army list is and what legion and RoW you play. The best answer we can realistically give you at the moment is 'magnetise them'. Units in HH are much more specialised than in 40k and need to be geared towards a specific job rather than trying to make a unit an all-rounder.

So what's the deal with land speeders? Am I going to have to find old metal second edition ones?

>>52760451
Nah, land speeder javelins from FW or the GW ones for regular speeders.

>>52756601

How do you have so much $$$$ for all this resin crack anon?

>>52757133
I could only listen to an episode and a half of them. The one guy's voice is super super grating and nasally, I can't stand it.

What does a proper Ironwing list look like? Do I just toss in a lot of predators and mortis dreadnoughts and fill in leftover points with tac blobs and rhinos?

>>52760483
Are you sure? The only images I can find of heresy era land speeders use that old design.

>>52760789

Any vehicle that has the word 'Legion' in it can use a 40k model. This is the same reason why nobody fields 40k bikes in 30k.

>>52760721
Add in possible options for units of tank artillery, full talons of cortus dreads for counterassault, superheavies for an extra non-tank and also having a superheavy, and at higher points volkite charger support squads and theoretically malcadors, although you'd need to be playing at like 3.5k minimum for a full squadron of them.

>>52760440

Shrug. Was just looking for suggestions.

>legion
let's saaaaay IF?

>list
No idea yet.

>>52760935

So uh I have to be a complete tankphile and go gotta catch em all on all the tank models. Ok.

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what was his problem

>>52761115

>Theres no way I could possibly fuck this up.

>>52761126
Pretty much,

Idiot genuinely believed that there was nothing that could go wrong with anything he did

>>52761161

He wasn't an idiot per say, but Tzeentch conflated his ego so much to the point where he wouldn't be able to tell a bad decision from a good one. He thought he knew everything about the Warp, when he knew nothing.

>>52761040
Well, it is the original tank warfare style of the legions, so yes, yes you do need tanks. It's kinda the theme. The mechanised warfare option isnt well done in the rules, once the DAngels get some more love, i'm expecting some method to choose between tanks and mechanised infantry, and some Master of Armour variant to get around the HQ weirdness.

>>52761259

Yes, I do see that now. The RoW caught my eye since I like predator tanks and I like dreadnoughts. But if the list requires me to diversify so much that I'll have to invest in the Sicaran models and the Medusas just to make it work, then I should just work on something else for now. Thanks for the tips.

>>52761023
Anti infantry. Combi flamers, heavy bolters and marksmen. Makes for effectively rending flamers for up close and bs5 rending bolt guns for the rest.

Anti tank. Machine killers, combi meltas and missile launchers. Makes for a ton of st9 shots, deletes a vehicle even with armored ceramite, too many st9 shots.

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when the emps children went heresy do you think that some of them tried love? being restricted from such emotions then all of a sudden having no bounds

>>52761320
Sicarans are probably the worst tank option available, since they cant be squadroned and thus lose the main benefit. None of what i listed are necessary, they're options. I'm partial to cortus dreads normally for anti-knight shenanigans, and they are buffed through the stratosphere in Ironwing, which kinda makes me want to do one if i didnt dislike DAngels. You can make a fine list with just a termie command+praetor in a raider, two tac squads in rhinos, two mortis dreads and six predators with sponson lascannons. That'd total up at about 1750, add in a big tank of choice and 250 points of jets or artillery or mechanised infantry or more predators or whatever you like and you've got a solid 2.5k list.

>>52761536
>>52761320
what i'm saying, is that predators and dreads are your bread and butter in this rite and everything else is just you picking whatever you like for extra flavour

>>52761404

Wait that's vets right?

I was asking about Cataphracts.

>>52760120
No, the lower something is in a chart like that the worse it is.

>>52760213
Uhuh, on what? Rhinos will be kill anyway, and most tanks are Heavy Support choices. And Shoot & Charge (which the SW get for FREE) is situational as fuck.
Hammer of Olympia is "4 HS - The RoW".

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>>52753188
>guy who it's hinted might have actually been more psychically powerful than the Emperor himself shouldn't have all the disciplines

>>52758504
>>52759889
>>52760001
>>52760149
>>52760176

Maybe he confused the veterans for a Legion Command Squad, which occupies a single HQ choice as a retinue?

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>>52761614
>TSfags truly believe Magnus is psykier than Emps.
Ugh.

>>52761573
Storm shields and powerfists/chainfists/thunderhammers. One of the best vanilla terminators.

Also assault cannons and combi bolters with power swords chops up meqs well.

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>>52761807
Actually I believe witches should be harvested for the honour of the blood father, but it is hinted in a couple of books (the First Heretic and A Thousand Sons off the top of my head) that he MIGHT be.

>>52761879

Just look at 40k Magnus, who is (in lore) upgraded by leaps and bounds. And yet, he still gets banished by Khornate axes and is still susceptible to a combination of SoS fuckery and Guilliman fisticuffs. If he indeed has more psychic potential than the Emperor, it is only on the loosest of technicalities.

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fav legions lads?
>emperor's children
>thousand sons

>>52761904
And according to the lore Berzerkers should be scary. Crunch=/=fluff.

>>52761947

Their super big tracked brothers are.

Hard to choose so I'll give my top three in no particular order
>Sons of Horus
>Iron Warriors
>Emperors Children

>>52761924
>World Eaters
>Night Lords
>Sons of Horus

>>52761924
>Blood Angels
>White Scars
>Imperial Fists

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>>52761966
Now we're just getting side tracked.

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>>52762015

That was completely unnecessary.