Pathfinder General /pfg/

>>52746792
Extra sets of clothes! Too many people only have the one. That's just terrible!

>>52746802
>everyone must be tengu
>typical tengu stuff

Now I'm imagining a Tenguxploitation film campaign and it's wonderful

>>52746792
>Spiked gauntlet: Can't be disarmed, still does decent damage for both Strfags and swashbuckler types, and you can enchant it with an initiative booster down the line.
>Dagger: You can cut food with it, poke hazardous things with it, pick up things just out of reach, cut ropes, cut vines, carve messages, pry gems from their housings, and hell, even fight if you're boring.

>>52746792
GET A SIGNAL WHISTLE.

SERIOUSLY, JUST GET ONE.

8 SP THAT CAN GO FAR.

>>52746816
Are they Pathfinder tengu, or mythological tengu?

>>52746838
>get accepted into PLD
>forget to put a whistle in the inventory

I fucked up, didn't I?

5 or 6 Warlord before Landsknecht? Is Dual Boost worth the delay in prestiging?

>>52746850
>Going into the rape game with no rape whistle

Oh dear.

>>52746885
If bushi, 6, if not it's up to you, though I'd say 5 if not.

>>52746792
Signal whistle or hand bell, candle(s), fish hook and line, paper and pencil (for taking impressions).

There are also some damned useful alchemical odds and ends like filtration sponges and environmental endurance creams that can be handy.

>>52746895
But at least I bought her some torches!

>>52746904
Now she can see what's raping her at least.

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I want to make a path of war character focused on unarmed fighting. Is steelfist commando or a stalker the best choice?

>>52746928
Yup. Silver linings, I suppose.
Unless it's an Invisible Rapist!

>>52746950
Deadly fist War Soul Soulknife

>>52746792
>Traveler's Many Tool
>Handy Haversack/Bag of Holding
>Efficient Quiver
>Sleeves of Many Garments
>Ioun Tourch
>Soul Soap
>Pathfinder Pouch
>Night Tea
>Any starting kit combined with a camping kit.

>>52746950
Steelfist Commando.

>>52746967
>Night Tea

This Anon knows what's up. Though you should get a Two-Person tent, too. No point in having the tea if you don't have a place to get frisky.

>>52746950
Don't forget Sanguinist Medic and Aurora Soul Mystic

Don't forget Fool's Errand

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>>52747005
No idea what those are, I'm just looking at stuff on the srd.

>>52746792
A comfy pair of underwear.

>>52746967
Hat of Disguise and a Many-tool, too. And lots of gold.

>>52747003
Don't forget something to entertain yourself when you don't have somebody else!

>>52747019
Check trove 1 in the OP pastebin
Medic, Fool's Errand

Aurora Soul is on the srd though you should be ashamed

>>52747005
Where can I find a Pixie race or class, /pfg/? This is important!

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>>52747039
>not having somebody else

Get better CHA, nerd. You should ALWAYS have somebody else to get you off. You've got an entire party, bare minimum.

What games are still open?

>>52747113
well WWW closes in..
10 hours

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>>52747003
Yeah I forgot a campsite kit doesn't come with a tent, but it does mention that the PC's should buy some if they expect unfavorable weather conditions. And since the kit is meant for at most 4 people then buying two medium sized tents along with it is a good deal.

I'll share a tent with you anon and get frisky.

>>52747113
Blingmaker, but you need to hurry! You'll never have sex with Kyras unless you apply by the 19th!

>>52747124
Why not just buy a 4 person tent and promote some serious bonding?

>Could make a lastminute app for WWW that's a haemonculi healer with a whole organic alchemy lab inside her
>She works as a bartender, brews all the alcohol inside her, and spits it up to serve to guests
>Also does this for her healing potions, buff extracts, and everything else

I think this crosses the line into a bit too weird without enough silliness to balance it out.

>>52747124
Who do you want to share a tent with anon?

>>52747144
No, that sounds fun. Write it up!

>>52747144
Haemonculi are purpose made anon. She could be a bar tending model!

>>52747130
Actually the GM is considering pushing the date back to next weekend. Just check it out. If you have issues with that bring it up or something?

https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/4831684/general-discussion/?pageforid=4922979#post-4922979

>>52747147
Not that Anon, but I want to share a tent with Andrik! But don't tell him I said that, alright? It would be too embarrassing!

>>52747163
Oh, wow. Hmm, but I'm not sure this benefits me. This might allow rivals to improve themselves!

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>>52747040
I see.

I'm still leaning toward a Commando, I guess. But it seems a bit feat intensive to make a decent TWF'er still.

>>52747144
But can she also serve her other body fluids?

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>>52747143
Depends if everyone wants to get down like that ;P

>>52747147
Even tho my character is a girl I wanna hold hands with Franze while we drink tea together or cuddle.

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>>52746792
TEN FEET OF ALL NATURAL WOOD TO POKE THE UNKNOWN WITH TENACITY NEVER BEFORE SEEN! FEAR IT! FOR NO TRAP NOR SLEEPING MONSTER CAN THREATEN ME. BOW BEFORE MY POLE, NOT A STAFF NOR A BOW BUT MY MIGHTY POLE!

>>52747203
If the rogue doesn't want to get fucked in the ass while the sorceress rides him and the cleric sits on his face, then he should've signed up with a different party.

>>52746967
>>Night Tea
STOP! YOU'VE VIOLATED THE LAW!
Pay the court a fine or serve your sentence. Either way your contraband is now forfeit

>>52746792
Is "1 million gold pieces" a good answer

>>52747224
Braze Iomedae
Fugg the Poleese

>>52747124
where the fug is this from

>>52746709

If I had applied to Blingmaker, my original idea was to go to Brevoy as a member of the Technic League sent to investigate the detonation in Blingmaker's premise, only to stay because it's cool to be fucking rich.

>>52747224
Looks like I found the gnoll or troll.

>>52747224
>Fuck tha guards!
And then I bugger off to the nearest Thieves' Guild hideout to pay to have my bounty removed.

>>52747243
The Internet.

>>52747261
t. alex grandi

>>52747244
You still have time! That sounds really fun and interesting, plus you could have all kinds of wacky interactions with the more traditional arcanists in the area. What would the character be like?

Would it be a handsome, intelligent fella?

>>52746553
>>52746515
>>52746427
>>52746411
>>52746341
I fixed it a little, is it better now or even worse? Suddenly I'm a huge fan of King Lear

>>52747247
Pay the toll or give up your hole

>>52747224
*installs colorful magic*
*~tgm*

>>52747300
I would but I'm really hoping to get into WWW. If I do, I won't have time for Bling with my two other games I GM.

>>52747144
Sounds like Fran Madaraki with a different fetish.

Go for it.

>>52747343
I'm not paying your toll, go sit on a pole!

>>52747354
Aw, okay. I suppose that's understandable, even if it would've been fun to have a techie around.

>>52747354
Who are you in WWW?

>>52747381
Mary

>>52747374
Accept your role, and sit on my pole!

>>52747374
Sit on my pole.

>>52747387
>>52747389
You think you know my role? You can't beat me, I'm too swole!

>>52747331
>naming a literal rabbit King Lear
What the fuck is wrong with you

>>52747389
>>52747387
polemind

>>52747397
Your belly will be swole.

>>52747414
Your pole couldn't even make a vole swole!

I have seen them

I've seen all the F-lists

The power is mine.

>>52747438
So either sack up and post them or just sit down and shut up.

Rolled 19 (1d20)

Does anyone here make players roll for sex
>1d20 + X
>X is 0 if they're virgins and -5 if they're Pure™ Maidens®
>X is 5 if they've had sex once
>X is 4+Y where Y is the number of times they've had sex otherwise
>If you roll a 20 on a partner, you can always choose to take 20 whenever you fug them

Rolled 11 (1d20)

>>52747463

>>52747331
Hrm, it's a bit vague on how she turned, but I also think the personal story is better than the last one.

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>>52747447
I'm not sure anon

Maybe i should save this power, and use it only to tease anons when its relevant.

>>52747463
That's idiotic. Like, rolling for things like sex is already stupid enough, but that's uniquely moronic.

>>52747474
>a bit vague
She jumped out of her body. to try strangling the faggot without realizing it.

>>52747477
That's exactly what and autistic person would say. Go back to your bed and put the safety helmet back on before I tell on your mom that you've been talking to 4chan.

>>52747494
I can't figure out what post this is referring to right now and that is probably a sign to close /pfg/ for the night.

>>52747487
>>52747474
Also the idea is that she was Mo Shinderu™and was basically clinging on by sheer force of will so once she got mad enough to think that killing Ed was more important than clinging on she dieded

>>52747487
Ah okay, well, then just say that then shit.

>>52747516
Thought it was implied, she jumps through the collapsed tunnel and somehow starts strangling him when she couldn't even breathe before. Should I make it more explicit?

>>52747331
>supply her with a demiplane full of Ragnar's Sourberry Pudding
Can you actually do this with Create Greater Demiplane though?

>>52747498
The rat's list includes 'foot play' under faves.

>>52747529
In this case, just like how you explained up above here >>52747507 I think that you should. Make it a thematic but also clear that yes she was in fact so consumed by rage that she died and turned into a wraith that wanted to strangle her betrayer.

>>52747427
Once I've given you my pole, to your loved ones they will only console.

How do I dual shield warder

>>52747585
Know your place, you prole!

>Do you really want to kill the evil count?

What does the GM mean by this?

>>52747752
Do you really want to kill the evil count

>>52747752
Killing Hitler wouldn't have stopped WW2.

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>>52747203
Holding hands and cuddling is what you want, is it...

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>Adam Meyers removing the anime names from the troubadour

Why did it have to come to this?

>>52748469
Oh crap, he didn't just remove the names, he deleted the talents totally.

>>52748469
>>52748474
>Keeping the abilities but changing the names is cultural appropriation

What the fuck.

>>52748595
Hahah. No seriously. What happened.

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>>52748469
>>52748595

AHAHAHAHAHA

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Why are the apps for /pfg/ games full of Rebooblicans and not enough Demoflats?

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HEY.

DMs.

Just in case you were wondering if putting the party against a fucking con-casting turbowizard with over 40-50 Con who has instant party wipe spells was okay because it's inside a groundhog day loop?

IT
FUCKING
ISN'T

>>52749119
Why. It's a Groundhog Day Loop, basically nothing is canon.

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>>52748469
Animefags blown the FUCK out

>>52749164
Because it's a fucking pain in the dick to play through, anon.

>>52748469
Adam exposed his powerlevel and he reaped the consequences.

>>52749054
The amount of acclaim my various female apps got for pfg games seems to be directly proportional to their breast size.

It's sad.

>>52749263
Why is their breast size even in the fucking app?

>>52749251
Rather, he exposed his lack of it.

>Googles 'japanese romance tropes' and read everything he knows off a kotaku article

>>52749271
I never mention it.
It's just based off the pictures.

>>52749272
Worst of both worlds honestly
He made /r/anime look like Majin Buu or P. Cell, while making himself out to be a huge fucking weeb by calling them "common knowledge"
Basically he's a dumbass

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>>52749271
They have art don't they?

How do you kill a flying dragon?

>>52749305
With crit cards

>>52749305
ask your DM for a custom homebrew PWK that works on up to 160 HD

>>52749305
Hit it's elemental weakness and then go in for an all out attack.

>>52749305
You suck it off because Dragons are universally horny af, and then you grab it by the balls.

>>52749361
What if it's a female dragon?

>>52749379
Then you go full drumpf on her

>>52749305

Fly faster than it.

>>52749305
Use your own Flight Spells, find a position that forces it to land if it wants to engage you, use ranged attacks.
Remember kids, always have a ranged option, because that 1 in 20 chance to hit with a crossbow for a few points of damage is better than literally nothing.

>>52749398
>Crossbows
>1 in 20 chance to hit only
>when you do hit and even if you crit, the dragons DR will probably negate your shit.
You're better off just using aid a fucking nother than that.

>>52749412
>You're better off just using aid a fucking nother than that.

I will grant you this. I am projecting a bit perhaps, I ran a dragon fight with my players last night. There were two characters on the ground staring helplessly whilst the others rocketed around in the sky, they didn't really have anyone to aid.

>"you have to optimize to survive printed modules"
>"printed modules are too easy and planned around shitty players"
well which is it
both can't be true at the same time

>>52749737
Both. Printed modules are shit in many different ways, but not every module is shit in every one of those ways.

>>52749737
They can because Paizo does not test nor balance modules. Hence why things can be piss easy cake walks until you encounter a hard wall that will buttfuck people who aren't meta-gaming.

>>52749305
There's an archetype for gunslinger that gives them a deed to knock winged monsters out of the sky by disabling a wing, with fall damage and all. You don't get it until level 15 though.

>>52746792
Food
Small mirror
Rope
Chalk
Bag of marbles
Blanket
A quarterstaff/walking stick
At least two daggers
Flint and steel
At least one tindertwig
One vial of oil
Soap

WWW ends in 4.5 hours, for anyone mulling a last-minute application.

I'm thinking the deadline ending in the middle of the day is going to block whatever insanity took over legacy on the final day, though.

What's a good way to convince a DM that PoW stuff is generally okay without going too far? Mine thinks PoW is inherently overly complicated and overpowered and can't be convinced otherwise. They only like vanilla stuff and barely allow base classes like Oracle and Witch because they think they are too snowflake and take too much to learn, which also extends to stuff like Kineticists, psionics, and unchained classes.

I was thinking either show how much damage a 1pp only straightforward bow fighter is capable of doing or showing them how flexible/complicated/useful a full wizard or cleric is once you start picking 10+ spells a day.

No, I can't leave. They have shackled themselves to me and I typed this out while they were sleeping.

>>52746792
A leash for the wizard and a I.O.U. from an inquisitor who specializes in chasing teleporting wizards.

>>52750107
Coat his core rulebook with contact poison and tell him you'll give him the antidote if he lets you play a PoW class.

Or get him to run a side one-shot for (a) PoW character(s) and see for himself.

>>52750107
You don't play zweihander warder or gifted warsoul psyarmory in a party with core monks and rogues. When everyone is OP (read: is not core monk), nobody is OP.
>>52750107
>take too much to learn
>They have shackled themselves to me
Gnaw through the chain with your teeth if you have to. Why the fuck are they playing rpgs and pf in particular if they don't like to read?

>>52750107
>They only like vanilla stuff and barely allow base classes like Oracle and Witch because they think they are too snowflake and take too much to learn, which also extends to stuff like Kineticists, psionics, and unchained classes.

Put torch to their PF books and convince them to play something else instead.

>>52750107
You won't.
He is too wrapped up in his own idea of muh D&D to see past his own nose.
Fortunately, my DMs have generally not cared about ToB/PoW stuff, not just because no one has pushed it to nonsense, but because I always use it as powerful group support.

>>52750107

Even some pfg games ban PoW because it raises the bar too much, to the point of having to adjust module encounters heavily. You might just have to accept it.

SoP gets a pass because it tones everything down. Spheres simplify and focus caster abilities, god wizard mode is reduced, and spell points are just a counter akin to ki points.

I'm actually a bit surprised that you don't see the occasional "SoP casting only" games going on.

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>>52750219
>SoP gets a pass because it tones everything down.

>Conjuration
>Weather with Climate
>Destruction maybe

>>52750107
Run a PoW oneshot for him.

He might break the game balance by choosing the most broken options to prove a point, but maybe he'll have fun doing it, and by having him make a character you've already overcome the first hurdle of getting him to understand the system.

>>52750216
>He is too wrapped up in his own idea of muh D&D to see past his own nose.

This is hilarious to see here of all places. /pfg/ has very concrete ideas of what is and is not "real pathfinder". No 3pp? Reeeeeeee. No SoP? Reeeeee. Less than 25 bp? Reeeee. Not set in default vanillaworld? Reeeee. And so on.

>>52750280
yeah it's not like there's 37 different people in this thread.

>>52750343
Sure there may be many voices, but there are obvious trends in what gets touted as required for a good game here. Sure it could just be a small handful of very loud anons, but when voices shouting back against this current are few and far between it certainly feels like /pfg/ has made up its hivemind on the matter for the time being.

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>>52750386

If /pfg/ loves 3pp, then why did everyone sign up for PLD, even though the only 3pp there was avowed and it was an EVERY OTHER WEEK game?

>>52750343
38, actually.
>>52750280
The difference is that those are counter to the broader assumptions of the game and offer something concrete.
25pb allows all classes to be viable mechanically, for example, and PoW/SoP allow for strong options for players that are not nearly as overwhelming as thing offered in the core game as well as offering approaches the core game does not.

>>52750438

I personally love EVERY OTHER WEEK games, it keeps the game from becoming a chore and makes it a bi-monthly thing you look forward to.

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I was told this is the general that appreciates heal sluts

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>>52750459

Yeah, what about them?

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>>52750459
Nobody plays healsluts in /pfg/ games.

>>52750459
Sauce, you cunt.

>>52750481
Correction - Nobody gets selected when applying with a healslut in /pfg/ games.

>>52750481
Vitalists are fairly cool

>>52750386
Don't be an idiot. Hivemind?

Yes, some people share ideas.
Many for example do view 3pp as a better alternative to "1pp only", or worse yet "core only" (rare but still seen on occasion). Look at what they then argue should be used or not used out of the stack, however. That's not a hive mind.

Less than 25pb? That's a little more accepted. It's been proven time and time again that the lowest point-buys are severely detrimental to multiple-attribute-dependant classes/characters/builds, while barely - if at all - affecting SAD types in any meaningful fashion. At 10 points a full-caster can have 18 in his casting stat without buying any negatives. Meanwhile the thief that wants 12 strength, 14 dex and 12 charisma is not only not going to do all that well in combat or at his skills, but he's got a single point left he can turn a 10 into an 11 or a 12 into a 13 with, and that's the end of it without crashing his skill points, hit points or his will saves and perception.
That's not "hivemind" that's fucking reason.

Vanillaworld doesn't fucking matter; everyone changes it. What DOES matter is that standard golarion is LITERALLY THE STANDARD by which we have to measure the system. When someone goes "THAT'S NOT TRUE THERE'S NO LASER ROBOTS ON GOLARION", well that's a fucking lie, there are. You can remove them from your campaign, but that doesn't mean they don't exist in the base, and pretending you're not homebrewing some of the setting is deliberate deceit. You can decide Iomedae is Lawful Good in your campaign, and that's fine, but if you argue she's always lawful good everywhere on golarion without even saying that's "for my campaign" then that's a fucking lie. Problem is, that's what gets tossed about. People will argue something stupid for hours while pretending the entire time that it's anything but their own homebrew. That's not a fucking hivemind.

>>52750456
Major downside though: if a session gets cancelled that's an entire month between sessions. And that's often a death-knell.

>>52747251

Holy fuck, please leave kid

>>52750456
Hell no
People just lose interest in games if they are that rare

>>52747387
Confound your toll, troll!

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>>52750576

Why were Hell's Vengeance, PLD, and Shardwalkers so popular if they were EVERY OTHER WEEK then?

>>52750532
Golarion treats its kitchen sink elements as contained in their own regions
Only Numeria has robots.
Only the jungle place has dinosaurs.

>>52750593
How many sessions have they run by now?
Because let's see if they can survive one year or so.

>>52750590
You gotta pay the troll toll, if you wanna get into that boy's hole

>>52750603
>Because let's see if they can survive one year or so.
Speaking of which. Of all these campaigns /pfg/ seems to talk about almost exclusively over the last year, how many did even start? Run for half a year and/or to completion?

>>52750599
what does them being retarded with borders have to do with anything? the stuff still exists. the regions are there. otherwise it would be impossible and unacceptable to play someone from molthune in cheliax.

>>52750593
>PLD
has been running weekly for the last three weeks with a play by post in between.

>>52750627
usually if it makes it past sessions 1-2 it's good for a while and will only collapse for the usual reasons, such as "and then everyone's new class schedule collapsed it" or "the GM got laid"

>>52746792
Grappling hook arrows and pots of keep watch. Literally all my characters get this as soon as they can afford it.

Hm... want to finish overlewd character, but there's avowed changes coming soon... probably best to give it a few days I guess.

in the meantime, what areas of golarion do stuffed pasta? like cannelloni and ravioli and the like?

>>52750704
Varisia

>>52750704
Cheliax

>>52750704
If you're not looking at nation pact then there are no big changes coming soon for the Avowed 1 stuff that would need you to redesign your build.

>>52750750
changes to starting pulse shapes are happening though.

and I'm not completely decided on pact and nation's one of the considerations. as is world-engine for the fluff though the abilities wouldn't fit what I'm trying to do.

Has Bestiary 6 been cleaned yet?
Anyone have a link if so?

>>52750781
Refluff pacts to whatever you want. Devs have given their blessing.

Pact shapes, from what I've heard, are simply being changed to "you get two shapes at level 2, though they must be different".

>>52750855
that would leave me with .jpeg, gm aspirant or one of the new nation models...

maybe GM aspirant with world engine's fluff?

>>52750909
What's your concept? Or is it secret?

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What class should a psychologically destroyed child who receives beatings as rewards be? Obviously the race is an elan. That's clearly how they are made, given the secret process, loss of memories, their racial features for ignoring pain through going to their mental safe place, the traits available to them and their development of psionic powers just to better retreat from the pain.

>>52751096
>Obviously the race is an elan. That's clearly how they are made
Projection is strong within this one.

>>52750927
I guess it's a secret then ;_;

>>52751096
anon you wanna talk about something

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>>52751096
>Loli Construct Dread who literally emanates an aura of despair, making them all feel the abuse she's taken over the years

>>52750927
Ex-merchant, a massive lizardman who backed the wrong side in the rebellion. His other class half is Aegis.

If things end up in the 'lewd' side, his view on the matter is that of an active voyeur. He likes a refined dinner and a show. Get some animals (non-affluent humanoids) up on stage, kinda like how hutts like dancing girls.

>Touch the cow. DO IT NOW.

>>52751220
no but I the potatoes were ready.

>>52751332
>but I the potatoes were ready.
confirmed for irish

>>52750790
April 26, my dude.

>>52751362
Ok, thanks.

>>52751096
Hmmmm.....I would go with anon's >>52751265
Dread idea, or an Egoist who self healed, or the Evil Vitalist, or a Nomad Psion out to escape the pain.

>>52751096
Harbinger.

>>52751096
Spiritualist with a Wrath based Phantom, or a Shadow Phantom as cold and dead inside as the child is.

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How's this for a crude backstory greentext for Overlewd?
>Long ago, there was a powerful wizard
>At the peak of his power, in the midst of his greatest ritual, he was cut down
>Rather than becoming a godling, he became something not quite a man and not quite a god
>One of his lowly imps escaped with his skull though
>Starscream no more, the imp had to get stronger or die trying
>Imp became a succubus and drew on the power of her old master's skull
>Using it as a focus, she was able to bind the mindless beast that had once been the wizard
>Pulling his soul from the space between world, she brought him back from the dead as her thrall
>Is now waiting for the day one of those heroes comes to finish the job
>Maybe make them into her undead thrall as well

>>52751425
Honestly it sounds a bit tryhard, m8

>>52746792
Noob GM here. Some friends and I played a homebrew of mine, and we had a lot of fun, but we're scrapping it, since it went kinda haywire. Our new campaign starts tomorrow. If anbody has ever read "The Spook's Apprentice", then you probably know the theme. It's set in an alternate England, where magic is a thing, but witchhunters and bandits are running around suppressing it and oppressing people. I need some sort of monster stat blocks for an (initially) level one party to fight. Preferably bandits of some sort (low HP and Armour, but decent weapons), tribesmen (high hp and tough as fuck, but little armour and not great weapons) and witchhunters (skilled and fanatics, but not particularly strong or tough).
Villagers for a mob would be nice too.

Can anybody point me in the right direction?

>>52751321
Hmm, waiting for the avowed update may actually be worth it, because Nation Pact's On My Command ability might be getting turned into a shape that any avowed can use and it sounds like it fits.

>>52751321
Hannibal Lecter's tone with Bill O'reilly's idea of writing porn.

>Cup her breassts. Hold them up this way for ten seconds. Ah. My Tagliolini are done. Jiggle them, Clarisse. Jiggle that fat cow's teats.

I want the ojou ladyknight from Overlewd to step on me.

>>52749119
Holy shit I need to start planning a groundhog loop campaign right now.

>>52751096
Speaking of elans, where are their racial feats? Didn't they have some that doubled their racial powers' effects? Not the most optimal thing in the world but I still loved that effect.
>Liches ain't shit, hold your body together with your MIND you pussy

How would your character prefer to be killed?
Even if they're on the path to being immortal (or ARE already), all things must end.

>>52751662
Death by snu-snu

>>52751662
Fucked to death by Valeriya

>>52751662
corrupted to the dark side and become the villain

>>52750228
>Destruction
>Good outside of a singular particular build that requires you to multiclass so much that the GM will notice the red flag in aninstant

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>>52751677
You'd go down just like NPH

>>52751702
Spheres is all about dipping, yo.

Even Adam Meyers said it's intentional that you're supposed to 1 level dip the incanter.

>>52751702
That build doesn't NEED the multiclassing for the damage, the multiclassing is just gravy.

>>52751739
That's my fetish

>>52751662
How would someone who desires to be a lich want to be killed, assuming it was inevitable? I'm actually not sure. Like if a god knew ALL things would end one day how would they want to end?

>>52751265
>>52751369
>>52751401
All good ideas! Thanks pfg. I like the idea of pushing the suffering onto the enemy fear-style instead of always direct or reactive violence. I'll add some violent powers, anyway.

And healing! Or pain-sharing! The headpats might become real someday, if I help my friends enough. Maybe they'll hurt nice, like squeezy-hurts! Might be better if they feel like honest pushy-hurts though. Not confusing or scary that way.

>>52751865
Be the one to do it. It's about control at that point.

>>52751772
That's not good class design. That's like how every 5e warlock has 18 levels of sorcerer, or how every 3.x ranger had 19 levels of something else...

>>52751995
3.5 Ranger was the god-class, are you new?

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>>52751590
I want her to come here to laugh at me.

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>>52752012
No, the god-class was a prestige classed Uncanny Forethought wizard.

>>52751677
>>52751739
>>52751822
Y'all motherfuckers need Jesus.

Would a Chaotic neutral accept collateral damage in an attempt to poison some aristocrat?

>>52752060
There are two Jesuses at my work place.

Both of them mop floors.

>>52752164
Sounds like you really need them, if you need two of them.

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Can the party carry a cannon around with them and some mules?

>>52752237
Just one wouldn't be enough for these floors. technically we really should have a third, but when's the last time a cleaning company gave a fuck about its employees?

>>52750704
>in the meantime, what areas of golarion do stuffed pasta? like cannelloni and ravioli and the like?

Taldor, however Varisia is better at it.

>>52752262

Of course! As long as you pay for the cannon and the mules and any upkeep those two things require.

>>52752262

How would you fire it? Is there any skill for firing artillery?

>>52752263
Sounds like you fuckers need (a third) Jesus.

>>52752315
there are siege feats, yes.

honestly though, you're better off with a large (or enlarged) character with powerful-build wielding a huge firearm (SAME PROFICIENCY) with one of the various effects that causes it to count as another step or two larger still.

>>52752262

And it shall be called "The Door Knocker".

>>52752330
yes but there's no budget for that. it's standard in almost every American business.

>Company policy follows the law and needs of man-hours. There should be 4 people on the floor
>Lowest level manager in charge of setting up the hours for the teams is given only enough budget for two people
>Any insufficiencies in the quality of the work is the manager's fault
>Any breaches of safety laws is the evil rogue manager's fault; company policy CLEARLY states there should have been four people on that job. We take this very seriously.

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>>52751096
Attic whisperer because that's how you kill kids

WWW soon

Where are the reviews, Dave

What equipment would wear a nomad from the steppes?

Agent of the Grave on d20 shows a blank spot for the spells gained at level 1, but the spells per day/known entry say you gain spell shit at every level and Inspired Necromancy assumes you gain caster level at level 1 in its calculation of max HD controllable with Animate Dead.

Which is correct?

>>52752406
Happened to my GF. She was running an Esso station with its corner-store a few years ago. Employer was Couche-Tard (Canadian 7-11)

>Must have 2 people in the store minimum at all times
>The money she's allowed for payroll every week is 3115 instead of the 3780 this would cost at minimum wage.
>The store CANNOT operate properly without at least three people in there during the day: there's just too many clients. Any less than two cashiers and one on the floor the shop crawls to a halt in under two hours
>Night shift actually gets an extra dollar an hour, so it's even more expensive than the above calculation, doubly so if there's two people
>She has to both cut someone from every day AND both she and the assistant manager (both salaried and separate from the per-hour pay available) do one free shift in addition to their full workload, for payroll to stay in the black.
>Disciplinary action taken against her the one time the store got held up, because there HAVE to be two people at all times.

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>>52752496
Prepare for the inevitable salt.

>>52752681

Who is the smuggest girl in each /pfg/ campaign?

>>52752666
I worked at a Couche-Tard for 7 years, starting at 14. I have mad respect for managers there because they literally are there 70+ hours a week on a 35 hours a week pay.

>>52752726
I only had one manager who wasn't like that and that fat bitch was cheating people out of their lunch hour (you work through it because you never have enough people, but she marks it off as having left the store).

The other two managers I had through college though were great. One of them was actually stuck managing two fucking stores, so I'm pretty sure he was topping 90 hours a week. In the four years I worked with him, he gained like 20 fucking years on his face.

I was his night guy; I only managed to get through because the old regulars who'd drop their wives off at church at 5am would help me with the newspapers and coffee in the morning. We had an ongoing deal; those guys never paid for coffee. The ambulance guys either; the faster those drunks or the idiots trying wheelies on pothole-mountain (Cote des Neiges actually) were gone from my store the faster I could finally clean that blood off of the shelves.

So, question, do we know anything else about the upcoming Shifter class in Ultimate Wilderness? I know it's slated to come out in November but do we have anything other than the vague line of text on the paizo site?

>>52752787
Jesus fucking Christ. I have absolutely no difficulties believing any of that even if I had the luxury of having worked at one in a Côte-Nord shithole.

>>52752681
Who got picked?
Who will fling their shit?

>>52752872
I hope it's a full BAB wildshaper with archetypes to turn into different creatures.

>>52746792
I always have a masquerade mask with me, shackles, rope, a conch, and a burlap sack. I might be missing something though. And then the usual stuff like napsack and Flint

>>52752872

What the heck is Paizo even trying to do with their setting anymore?

A focus on the Wilderness seems kind of counter-productive to their apparent emphasis on the cities and nations... Though they're moving away from that too.

>>52752879
The wheelies were fucking regular. rarely ever the same guy twice, but holy shit the idiots at 2am. You think drinking and driving's dangerous, wait till you see one of these assholes on a bike (of any sort).

>Hey uh, guy, uh, you got any paper towels?
>uh, sure they're ove~HOLYWHATTHEFUCKITSTHATSALOTOFBLOOD
>oh thanks man hey you got any tylenol or something
>PLEASE STAY RIGHT THERE I'LL GET IT ALL FOR YOU OH GODS YOUR FOREHEAD'S PISSING ALL OVER MY MUFFINS

>911 what's your emergency?
>another one just trashed all of my pastries for today
>Oh hi <anon>, tell them to sit down we'll have the paramedics there in two minutes. Are they still breathing?
>... he's trying to get into the beer fridge
>is that a yes or a no?
>maybe

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>>52752928
Does anyone care who you are before you put on the mask?

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>>52753037
I have rarely ever felt such a connection to someone over the internet.

You understand, anon.

How would a well-travelled archer from the steppes act, speak and be played as?

>>52753141

>"Any of you roundeyes know how to read a map? Because I have no fucking idea where I am."

>>52752629
Composite recurve bow, arrows, spare bowstrings, dagger or sword, skinning knife, needle and thread, dandy brush, bit and bridle, a comfortable saddle, saddle blankets, sinew rope, twine, shears, horse leather armor, pointed horse leather boots, flint and steel, iron pot, sacks of salt and spices, tent, hammer, stakes, sack of dung (for fires), map, charcoal sticks, waterskin, canteen of fermented mare's milk.

>>52753107
>>52753037
The idea that even a stupid job like cashier can mark people to that extent has me afraid of my future in the workplace. Is this mindfucking seriously the kind of shit the... sorry but just yesterday I would've said "the bumblefuck" at mcdonalds is dealing with? First name basis with 911 dispatchers?

Because my cousin used to talk about the drunken fighters and the suicidals he had to deal with at his corner store at night

>>52752164
Sounds perfect for the blood cleanup, then.

>>52753209
Frankly it becomes your normal if you do those jobs. It's only once you're out that you realize it's fucked up.

25 MINUTES BEFORE WWW APPS CLOSE

>>52753341
WE GOTTA HYPE WWW DAMNIT.

It's the one game I didn't follow at all this season.

I know that this is a bit unorthodox but...what book would you recommend from Terry Pratchett with good character descriptions?

>>52753354

Mary is going to fall in love with a Minos! Her freaky doll-like body makes her very accommodating!

>>52753107
Is there anywhere other than /pfg/ where one anon's fetish for having his throat slit mid-sexytimes with a celebrity character could bring a couple of Couche-Tards together in such a real and meaningful way?

Captcha is the corner of Boul St-Laurent and Rue Napoléon, is this even real life?

>>52753237
Fucking this. But the people working these jobs deserve a lot more pay, and some serious respect.

When you're the only lights on between a bar and two strip clubs, your friday nights become surreal.

You watch some action or horror movies, and you're seeing the people react to something, and it's just, like, "... oh yeah we had a guy like that last week. I wonder if HE lived."

Or the day you a security guard at the station taps you on the shoulder after you glared at a lady with a stroller for two minutes and your only words are "I'm trying to figure what she stole"

Or levelling up your pokerface when a local TV personality shows up with what is increasingly-obviously-not-his-daughter and buys three tubs of coolwhip and a pregnancy test... and all you can think to say is informing him it won't actually work until a week or two from now but if he goes to pharmaprix they have plan-B's

>>52753364
Color of magic, pyramids and sourcery had some pretty boner inducing descriptions of the girls.

>>52753374
Wouldn't doll-like imply small and more prone to breaking than stretching?

>>52753391
Escapism is my only truth at this point.

Do adventurers pay taxes?

>>52753493
They'd better if Sweettooth is on the case!

>>52753493
Only in Emerald Spire.

>>52753493
HIPPITY HOPPITY

>>52753493

They better.

>>52753493
If they settle down?
Hard to tax just someone who dungeon crawls

>>52753341
TEN MINUTES

Would a steppe nomad be tall, average, or short?

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>>52753577

>Implying the civilized nations of the Inner Sea don't have rules for dungeon diving
>Implying you won't get poison in your porridge from the heroic Pathfinder Lodge for encroaching on their turf

>>52753612

Steppe people are shorties.

>>52753627
>varisia
>civilized

>>52753627

I thought the Pathfinders were just amoral psychotics where ancient artifacts are concerned.

>>52753650

That's why I said "of the Inner Sea!"

Varisia is a filthy worthless backwater beyond the lonely collection of city-states that cling to the coast.

>>52753668

That's why they'll fucking kill you, bro. You start stealing their ancient artifacts than they'll have to take care of you.

>>52753692
there are barely any dungeons to dig in inner sea anyway

>>52753692

But regular treasure is fine, right? So long as you leave the top-shelf stuff for their super secret special private museum only they're allowed to see?

I think I've come to a slightly better understanding of just what kind of broken causes people to hang out here.

I'll be looking for that thousand-yard-stare in customer service representatives in the future. Maybe I'll see some fellow /pfg/ goers.

How tall is your character?

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>>52753704

But anon, that random golden scepter you stole might have been used by the third king of Cheliax! THEY HAVE TO HAVE IT!

>>52753701

Which is why I really, really want to do a campaign set in Andoran or Taldor or hell even Absalom.

>>52752048
Yeah, that was kinda the top shit, give or take an Abrupt Jaunt or Elven Generalist option on top of it. That, Int-to-HP hax and StP Erudite really 'won' the game.

I should have said omni-class, since Ranger just had all the basic strengths of other classes, on a full-BAB skillmonkey chassis (although UF itself was not out of their reach to partner with Mystic Ranger and SotAO, but if you have the same Wizard-level Int and want to spend so many feats like that, you probably aren't able to use the rest of what you have too well and should have played Wizard).

WWW PARTY SELECTION

1. MARY SHERWOOD AS THE DOLL
2. RICH HORNER AS THE SCOUNDREL
3. JENNY BLYE AS THE LIVING WAR
4. MAGWAU AS THE TRICKSTER
5. KACHINA AS THE MARKSWOMAN


I'll be honest this was hard as hell, tons of good apps for this game.

>>52753747

Well, congratulations to all those who got in, and best wishes to those who didn't.

>>52753747
Someone give me a breakdown on these 5 and if they were actually the best or just tickled Broodie's dick

>>52753747

>Rich, the Minos
>Magwau, the Elf
>They're the only men

RIDE THE BULL CONFIRMED.

>>52753747
>MARY SHERWOOD AS THE DOLL

Blinded by the tits.

>>52753747
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NuFVQk_CCs

>>52753779
Does Broodie have an elf fetish?

>>52753812
Who doesn't?

>>52753797

Though Mary has a large chest, she hides it behind that fan!

>>52753747
Congratulations to those that got in. Now I can go back to shitposting about RotJR.

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>>52753747
>3. JENNY BLYE AS THE LIVING WAR

Wait a sec, this guy is a Roll20 rando.

>>52753866

Jenny Byle was a goddamn masterpiece that perfectly encapsulated both the spirit and story of the Wild West.

>>52753866
Well then a shit ton of /pfg/ users got blown the fuck out by a roll20 who was willing to play a basically literal confederate soldier, and knocked that idea out of the park

>>52753797
What's wrong with Mary?

>>52753934
Nothing, she was a clear winner of an app from day 1

>>52753747
I like this party. What excites me the most about it though is the opportunity to see green texts about Rich and Magwau interacting since they seem like full contrast characters.

>>52753812
Only for brown ones with light hair my dude.

>>52753934

He's just jealous Mary's packing a solid rack in a party of flat chests.

Did anyone ever make that pole dancer for WWW?

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>>52753973

Well, then in that case congratulations on a great team!

>>52754000

She was made for Legacy of Blood and Flame.

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>>52754017

>>52754017
Made, but apparently never submitted.

>>52754055

I thought Iolanthe was the pole dancer? And she got in?

>>52753970
It might just be the cowboy setting talking, but I can't help but homoship them.

>>52754077
BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN

>>52754084
The most unfortunate dwarven clan name

>>52754072
Not that I could tell--no dancing, no pole, just some out-of-touch naivete and blind heroism.

>>52754077
>Broodie's bara posting was all hints towards his preference of males
>Broodie is going to orchestrate them getting together for maximum memery

>>52754105
Stop revealing my plots you shits

John Thomas.

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Welp. Time to give up.

People with two first names are douche bags and can't be trusted.

>>52754129
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxGRhd_iWuE

>>52754132
RICKY BOBBY

>>52754132
Reed Richards
Richard Cheney
Richard Nixon

... okay maybe it's more those with richard in their name

>>52754184
What a bunch of dicks.

>>52754184

THEY'RE DICKS, ANON.

ALL OF THEM ARE DICKS.

>>52754132
Don't elves have a traveling first name and then a "true" first name? Or is that just some bullshit my GM added in because it would lead to cute bonding with my character's family?

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What do you guys use for character creation?

I've been trying to get PCGen to work but it seems to be missing a few things so I'll probably just go back to doing it by hand.

>>52754199
Not that I know of, but now I'm stealing that shit.

>>52754203
I use new or playtest material so constantly that anything but doing it by hand is unreliable.

>>52754203
Mythweavers if it's for an app on Roll20

Googledocs for actual gameplay
Onenote + excel for personal builds

>>52754203
I do everything by hand

>>52754203
>What do you guys use for character creation?

PFSRD and Pathguy.

>>52754199
>>52754207

Little known fact about the Elves in Golarion is that all of them seek out and try to discover their Brightness, which is in essence their "calling," the hobby or profession they're totally bonkers autistic for and can spend the rest of their 700 years of life doing with a smile.

Maybe an Elf earns their "True" name when they find their Brightness?

>>52754148
That's all I got, friend

>>52754203
Either paper and pencil for normal characters, or Mythweavers for eierder characters

Honestly though, I kinda prefer paper and pencil, if only because I can scratch stuff in on the margins

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>>52754129

Not until you see who gets into Blingmaker!

>>52754275
inb4 Kyras doesn't get in, and his fangirls get blue-ovaried.

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the wheel turns...

>>52754371

WE MUST BREAK THE CYCLE

>>52754383
Would breaking the cycle mean killing all games?

>>52754203
The pfsrd and maybe a few pdfs if they have stuff that isn't on the srd. Especially lately, since half the best shit for vigilante (even 1pp) isn't on the fucking pfsrd for soME REASON. WHY WON'T THEY GET ON THE BALL?

For actually putting shit down, I just grab either a gdoc sheet or notepad and slap stuff together, then usually grab a gdoc sheet off of somewhere and punch stuff in. Maybe copy it all to mythweavers if I have to.

>>52754207
>>52754241
I don't know WHERE my GM got it from, though I'll have to ask him for sauce later since I'll need to be thinking on a second name anyway for an NPC. The way he explained it, perhaps it's really just a fancy way of saying "elves put more emphasis on middle names", but it sounded like it went a bit deeper than that.

>>52754389

You just have to stab your waifu in the chest with a marriage sword.

Can you have a pet bear without being a ranger?

>>52754389

That's JRPG villain logic, anon.

>>52754371
RUNNING GAMES: 20 (17 if you don't count the double games)
DEAD GAMES: 13

/pfg/ has surpassed the 50% real to ruse ratio.

>>52754383
But anon, don't you know that YOU ARE MINE LEWS THERIN

>>52754418

Absolutely! The best one, at least to me, is a Beast Rider Cavalier.

You could totally fluff it as your character being a stuffy nobleman that rescued a circus bear and roams the countryside, instituting animal rights and curtailing abuse!

Hey guys, I'm in my first campaign ever with pathfinder/tabletops in general and therefore am extremely scrubbish.

My tiefling rogue got absolutely smashed last session (we're playing through Hell's Rebels, and just made it to the second book), and I want to try a hell knight. What's a good way to build a character with the intention of being a hellknight, considering we're all only like level 4 right now

>>52754477
Antipaladin is a good route for one, if not then just a normal fighter works too.

I know that poison builds in general are pretty widely considered awful, but in a group full of people who aren't interested in optimizing or min/maxing even a little bit, could an optimized poison build keep up?

I've had some ideas kicking around for a new character, an alchemist with either the eldritch poisoner or the toxicant/interrogator archetypes. Could it work?

>>52754591
>could an optimized poison build keep up?
Only if you're are dealing with big bloaty enemies, prefer a tactical stealth option, are doing intrigue stuff, or can reliable dart across battle and if combat lasts for more than 2-3 rounds.

>>52754371
Change Legacy of Blood & Fire to Running

>>52754371
Eberron E8 is also confirmed for running.

>>52754629
From what I understand the campaign I'm going into is going to be minimal combat with heavy roleplaying, which is why the idea was appealing to me. In an urban setting I don't think a bomb-focused alchemist would fare too well, so I thought a poisoner might be a fun alternative to try.

I really wish there was a /pfg/ where people were encouraged to strength their optimization muscles instead of all this 'show restraint' shit we have. Because the moment someone says 'optimize' it seems like everyone on /pfg/ immediately starts jacking it to 'lel foresight divination god wizard' and not just well optimized characters of other classes.

>>52754371
Yes the E8 Eberron game is running. We've already had a session, just didn't play this weekend because of Easter bullshit.

>>52754668
>From what I understand the campaign I'm going into is going to be minimal combat with heavy roleplaying,
Then yeah, go for it. Especially if you can effectively use poisons to either circumvent combat or fulfill other purposes, then you should be good

>>52754672
I always optimize my shit, though I usually leave a few things up to flavor. Sphere effects, Martial Traditions, the like. I don't get the stigma either.

>>52754672
I don't want people to know my optimization secrets

>>52754672
I wish there was a /pfg/ where people talked about Pathfinder instead of all this weeb shit and ERP.

>>52754672
The problem is that the phrase "optimization" has multiple meanings and can be used for particular instances, so this causes an issue where we associate optimization with one definition over the other, and it then leads to a hesitancy to use it.

This, combined with both PF's crappy internal balance, as well as what is often a vaguery in what the optimization level of both the other players and the DM's intentiion just leaves a whole lot up in the air, that it causes hesitancy and makes people want to just play it safe instead.

>>52754769
And I wish you would go jump into a well you faggot leprechaun.

>>52754672
I try to optimize, I'm just bad at it and don't usually like the characters that I end up with while doing it. If I DO actually start to go FULL OPTIMIZATION, I likely will hold back in actual play from going all out, because I'm a fucking sucker for the idea of not showing my full potential until things start to go south.
That and every fucking build I make doesn't even start coming fully online until 4th or 5th at minimum, so I'm kinda stuck on a slow burn.

>>52754751
What secrets? Enlighten us.

>>52754672
Characters blend together when you start optimizing. At least they do in my mind.

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>>52754807
>because I'm a fucking sucker for the idea of not showing my full potential until things start to go south.
My man

>>52754806
I just don't get it. There are plenty of porn games out there that let you customize your characters if you're interested in roleplaying out a jerkoff fantasy.

Why do you people feel need to drown out every attempt at genuine discussion with this degenerate filth?

>>52754807
What do people mean by "not coming online till 4th or 5th"? Are you not effective from the moment you start play? That doesn't sound like optimization.

>>52754836
I've seen a bit of this when you push to the high limits of the system, since there's clear cut better options that end up going into a lot of builds. I wish this games floor was a lot closer to the ceiling in terms of build quality.

>>52754836
Then your mind is defective. You're part of the camp that's acting like any optimization immediately falls down the 'broken blade & primal fury' tunnel for PoW or 'wizards with his summoned army' for Paizo. Which just isn't fucking true. Anyone who thinks that needs to get their head checked. There are characters in numerous concepts optimized to do different things in different ways.