Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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First for ???

I wish I had friends or that there was a store/club where people played nearby

First for outflank is great fun

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>>52740547
yup. I love Ironstrider cavaliers- dump 6 Dragoons right in their backfield and put the Ballistrii in your backfield where they belong, fantastic formation.

>damn I love playing ad mech

So... a friend of mine from 3 editions ago is suggesting we get back into 40k. I know 8th is right around the corner. Anyone know of a cheap place to pick up the Ork and Space Marine 7th edition Codexes on the cheap? We'd be fine with PDF as well. He already managed to secure 2 7th ed rulebooks used.

>>52740469

Usagi taking out Abaddon would be pretty funny

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I'm trying to make a semi competitive Skitarii list with what I've already got. Any tips on what I should change?

>>52740529
I'll be your yellow, position fortifying friend.

>>52740622
codex archives in OP

>>52740622
The OP Mega links should have the codices.

>>52740622
>Ork and Space Marine 7th edition Codexes on the cheap? We'd be fine with PDF as well.
OP mega links

>>52740469
Predictions
>general book will only include new point costs and the new movement values
>a compendium of all the races weapons assigning them a sub class like flamer, plasma, missile, etc; plus the new rend values
>codex won't be invalidated but you'll need the general to play the updated version, so legions and other supplements will be valid
>the game will remain mostly the same but with the only real change being battleshock which Marines will ignore
>psyker phase absorbed back to movement phase
>new missions and scenarios but barely any new rules

>>52740622
if you want legit try ebay or the people at your local gaming club to see if they have a spare copy they might be willing to sell

if you want other means, you are a filthy pirate but some stuff in the OP talks about it.

>>52740622
Mega or Russians should have the stuff you want. Or eBay/local LGS.

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>>52740695

Apparently I'm blind. didn't even see that int he OP. thanks all.

>>52740547
Love me some outflanking Scout Sentinels. I also love deep striking Scions. Astropaths from IA help too. Gotta love people who assume Guard are static and then I have 2 groups of 2 Sentinels and 10-15 Scions harassing their back lines blowing up tanks and stealing objectives.

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>>52740529
Got space for a wizard buddy?

>>52740717
>>52740601
best thing about it I think is the fact your opponent cannot protect against it to a huge degree. It's psychological, so they may end up making mistakes.

Of course it can fail but 2/3rds of the time, it works every time.

Is there any way to justify using the Thunderstrike Gauntlet on an Imperial Knight? It looks so cool, but seems to be a little useless since you need that I4 to avoid Chainfist based death.

>>52740730
Freaking 1k Sons can't keep up with Slaanshi glory. Honestly 1 little squad of Sisters of Silence and you all puss out.

>>52740763
No, you're paying to cripple yourself and the extra rules are literally worthless as a "benefit" of using the gauntlet, if it were at least ap3 the throw attack it might be situational but either way you're paying extra to strike last.

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Most of us have seen the Ultramarines movie and come to the conclusion that, while meme-worthy, it was a pretty shit movie. If you were given the chance to make another 40k movie, but good this time, like... Warcraft, but sticking to the lore and not mutilating it, what would you go for? I'd like to see the events of Wrath of Magnus on the big screen, with awesome sfx, personally.

>>52740812
SoS aren't difficult to take out. T3 with 3+ means bolters fuck you up, even non-AP3 ones. It's the Culexus that's the nightmare.

>>52740889
Baneblade and Shadowsword would make a great movie, I'd also like to see the Age of Apostasy siege of Terra.

>>52740889

Eisenhorn trilogy.

Where does the multimelta on a LR go? I've never used one, so need to know where to measure from.

>>52740659
Seems fairly likely, although not sure what the odds of a separate book for wargear are.

In my dream world, they would keep the first two books of the current system (i.e. background and painting guide), split the rules into a couple of books (probably rules, dataslates, wargear and scenarios) and let you buy only what you need. Chances of that actually happening seem pretty slim.

On a somewhat divergent topic, has anyone here played Betrayal at Calth? I've been playing through it with my housemate and his girlfriend (me playing the word bearers, we did a big painting session and two games today) and there seems to be a bit of a bias towards the WB in the games we've played. Their card effects generally seem a little better, they get more dudes, terminators are crippled by only having one per hex and the dreadnaught is a fucking abomination. So far it's 3-0 to me and roomie is getting bit frustrated.

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>>52740889
I'd honestly go for the "A Thousand Sons" movie and then maybe a second part with "The Wrath of Magnus"

The Thousand Sons are one of the best stories inside 40k lore imo

>>52740889
I completely agree, but only because I'm a TS fanboy.

I think The Horus Heresy would be great but it would need a full TV series. Single unconnected events would be the ideal material for a 40k movie like one the Wars for Armageddon.

The real question is, which races would you like to see on the big screen represented that aren't the usual Marines/Chaos/Orks/possibly Eldar that are the usual in most forms of 40k media.

I'd vote Nids, Tau and Necrons, they sorely need some media spotlight, Aside from DoW they've never appeared in anything (Fire Warrior game notwithstanding)

>>52740889
The Burning of prospero and the preceding events.

>>52740982
On one of the cupolas, there's two of them so choose one.

>>52741007
Ok, I think I have a guy sticking his head out of there. I can try to measure from there.

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>>52740982
Pintle mount, up front. You couldn't just fucking google it or look at the assembly instructions?

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>>52740889
No one Hellsreach, really????

>>52741057
I didn't know what a melta gun looked like, it's 2nd first vehicle I've put together.

>>52740889
I'll rather choose something simpler, big events like that need a shit load of back story, Eisenhorn series, the death korps series or the Uriel Ventris series need less background beyond "in the grim darkness of the 40000 millennium...." The Horus heresy is way too long or the gaunt ghosts would be better produce as series.

Hellsreach book would be awesome.

>>52740982
The place you glued it on the god-damn model. You're not trying to use wargear that isn't represented on your citadel miniature are you?

>>52741088
I magnetized all of my stuff

The LR has sponsons, pintle, and turret mounted weapons all magnetized so that I can switch out between redeemer, crusader, and regular.

Also the doors are magnetized, if for some reason I wanted the sponsons on the back

>>52740889
I want the guy who directed mad Max to make a Gunheads movie

>>52740909
Then why did the 1k Sons whimper and moan about Sisters of Silence so much and blame that on their loss, and the psychic jamming.

>>52741067
I for one believe Hellsreach would be perfect as a movie or any astartes stand alone series book and would easily out sell the Warcraft movie

>>52740830
Damn. Ah well, giant chainsaw is cool too.

>>52740889

Personally I think the Forge of Mars books would make a decent movie trilogy, but if I have to pick a GW campaign book it's got to be the Damocles Crusade, but told properly. Most of the rage was made from shitty writing, it would be easy to turn it into a proper war film. It's got everything good, you could pick just one aspect, and you wouldn't have to deal with explaining the whole complex background of the Horus Heresy or the Warp so much.

>>52741154
Because the rhinos get the psychic null field as well.

>>52741165
I'd really enjoy a less "space opera" of the heresy, but more of a character study of Fulgrim in the HH novel.

Imagine something like saving privite ryan, with the fact that there are these huge continent spanning battles going on but you only get to see one big one, and then the rest is just the effects on the characters.

I'd like to see Fulgrims' tragic arc there.

>>52740889

I've always wanted to see a Band of Brothers style miniseries for Gaunt's Ghosts. 10 one hour episodes per season, you could do each book really well.

It also doesn't require a lot of explanation so it's gonna be able to draw more people into it. Straight action fans will just see a bunch soldiers in space killing crazy scary hordes of cultists, people who want more story can listen to how the cultists corrupt everything wherever they go and an entire system of planets is being cleansed of them, and people who are already fans will instantly know what's going on without needing an explanation.

>>52741154
I dunno, because it's in a book and the author will write whatever needs to be written?

I'm talking strictly tabletop

>>52740631
>Usagi taking out Abaddon would be pretty funny
Especially if she did it all by herself.

>>52741067
Someone's already doing something with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D4jr-0_COg

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Who do you think will win /tg/? The Guard or Tyranid hordes?

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>>52741292
ALL GUARDSMEN, FOLLOW ME TO GLORY!

>>52741191
Yeah, I would be so down for that. I'd almost want to make it a trilogy, with the first one the Istvaan Virus-Bombing and the second the Dropsite Massacre and the third the walls of Terra, maybe as a White Scar to justify the smaller squad action. Also something from Morturg and Decima's perspective in the first movie.

I find Istvaan V and Ferrus Vs Fulgrim the most emotional and dramatic battle in all of 40K, no matter what the SW and 1Ksons say about Prospero.
I don't even play an Istvaan Legion, I play Mechanicum, but if I had to pick it would probably be EC.

>>52741233
I am too. We played that Scenario yesterday. 1/2 the armies for chaos were 1K sons.
As There was My Slaaneshi force, 1 Khorne Force and some Kids for Chaos. Guess which 3 Armies didn't give a shit about Sister's of Silence, and just obliterated them.

>>52741292
I got overwhelmed last game as Guard by Nids so God speed GGA. I hope you have enough bodies.

>>52741405
Rubrics aren't affected by the null zone, lad. Only psykers are. Clearly he didn't field any of the actual TS infantry.

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>>52740730
um what?

>>52741480
We're being nice and offering condolences by saying we'd gladly play you if you were within reach.

>>52741367
>Ferrus Vs Fulgrim the most emotional and dramatic battle in all of 40K

Yes I was actually tearing up reading those parts, it was a really good book imo.

>>52741480
I play imperial fists, and if you lived near me we could play.

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>>52741503
oh

I'm not very clever sometimes

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>>52741268
OH WOW

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Had a good birthday/40kg/

What are you working on?

>>52741541
Happy birthday qt

>>52741541
Was going to convert a Farseer using a Skyweaver jetbike, but I got caught down with a sickness

>>52741292
>wyvern

IG win.

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>>52741541
I actually wanted to ask the same thing before going to sleep, but you beat me to it

I've started building and painting a Dreadnought today, did the base colour on the body, a bit on the arms and the legs (the legs already got a wash and some drybrushing). It's all still detachable, so I can get to all the parts, and I'll leave the right weapons arm unglued, so I can easily swap out weapon loadouts. It's pretty tight anyway, and doesn't just slip off.
Hoping to get the Dreadnought ready tomorrow, then I'll start on a Rhino.

>>52741541
Happy birthday!

Finalizing a custom Remora drone, then I'll get to work on a few other units.

>>52740638
Stuff a knight or two in there

>>52741478
I don't know either but that's what they blamed our loss on the Sisters, and the denial of their psychic powers. I don't know much about their army comps I wasn't paying attention to that.

>>52741614
I do agree that TS effectiveness is 90% in the psychic phase. You can't have a shitload of infantry AND a shitload of sorcerers unless you play 3k+ points, but you can still field SOME infantry.

A friend has just finifhed reading "Legion" and he told me it's pretty neat.

What do you think?

We are both a bit alphafags

(I'm also a bit interested in Seventh Serpent)

>>52741640
After fulgrim, legion was my favorite.

Granted I am only now on dark mechanicum

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>>52741640
I meant to add this related pic lol

>>52741650
Felt really sad for honan mu at the end there

>no-one liked magnus or perturabo
;_;

>>52741292
Stop taunting me! My guard never get to fight tyranids! I don't even think my store HAS tyranids!


ALL WE HAVE ARE TAU!

>>52741673
Plenty of anons here like Magnus you cry baby

>>52741650
The metahuman supersoldier is secretly very jealous of those manly Voystrian beards.

>>52741633
Yeah and they only had 1k points to work with.

>>52741702
I'm pretty sure he means fluffwise, not many of the primarchs seemed to like them.

>>52741541
nice

the only way I get toys any more is if I buy them for myself

last gift I was given by my family was some cleaning supplies because when they came to visit they thought my stove was dirty. I still try to get them things they might appreciate for their birthdays.

I have no friends so no gifts from anyone else, nor other people to give gifts too. I thought about participating in the /wip/ secret santa last year but was too nervous to do it. Maybe this year I'll get a PO box.

>>52741722
True, but hard to like turbo autists, even if they're your brothers.

>>52741711
I would be too honestly

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>>52740469

With the Cadians BTFO, will the real men of the IG Catachans finally take their rightful place in the spotlight?

>>52741673
Fuck Magnus he deserved all the shit he got thrown at, Perturabo in the other hand did try his best to earn the Emperor's recognition but got fucked over by Horus and ultimately got convinced to join the rebellion instead of opposing Horus, Perturabo did had his problems but at least he's more relatable than fucking Magnus.

>>52741292
1) post pictures of the nids horde
2) why are there army men there?

>>52741774
>Plastic catachans are direct-only
I wouldn't hold my breath there

Thinking about writefagging. I have a lot of ideas.

>>52741774
They'll get killed off by orkz and a space whale anon.

>>52741640
I am Alpharius.

>>52741786
Look at the terrain. The guy doesn't even have a grass mat, and he's using fake lego as terrain. They're obviously guardsmen.

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>>52741802

lol fug... the rumours of IG getting squatted are getting stronger with each day

How good are the chinamans Solar Auxilia?

>>52741633
They dont need a lot of infantry, played a 1500 point game against them yesterday, 10 terminators, 10 rubrics, a heldrake ahriman and a sorcerer, i killed 2 models. Once they get blessings, they are basically immortal, that flying book makes them faster than they appear, and the characters are decent in cc because of biomancy and force. Game was a tie until turn 6 when he was able to score every objective he drew. If i wasnt playing necrons i probably would have lost turn 3, since all their shooting is ap3. Fearless, slow and purposeful, ap3, many strong psykers, formation buffs, All of these things are fine by themselves but combined tsons are just broken and not fun to play against, combined with magnus they are just stupid op.

>>52741829
>Literally billions of Guardsmen in the galaxy
>they all get eaten by Tyranids somehow
Sure thing anon.

>>52741877
Forgot army wide 4+invuln

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>>52741829
>squatted
Nah they'll get the storm scions treatment and get a new make over so they don't give the generic soldier look, think of something like pic releated.

>>52741842
entirely dependent on the specific chinaman.

They vary greatly.

>>52741673
>tfw you like both magnus and perturabo.

>>52741902
That would be equally a death blow.

>>52741921
Perty is just a worse Vulkan.

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>>52741673
Lorgar loved all his brothers. I wonder why so many people hated him.

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>>52741902
I'd be okay with more options for Guard. Even if the fluff might say that most regiments were made in the likes of Cadians, there are still tons of regiments out there that look completely different. Would be nice to represent this in looks and maybe even some tactics.

>>52741902
God I hope so. Those look pretty cool.

>>52741776
Magnus tried to stop the Horus Heresy though.

>>52741921
>>52741673
>liking Magnus
Found the anons with victim complex

>>52741944

That image is hilarious.

>>52741939
>Vulkan
Wise nigger of the forge, chill man who has a reasonable worldview.
>Perturabo
Bitter Lord of the Siege. Loves to create but forced to destroy.
They're fairly different desu.
If anything Vulkan and Mortarion have more in common because they both specialise in fighting in harsh environments.

>>52741712
Shit man, 1K points is nothing. Did he run a CAD or what? As a CAD your minimum is 300 in rubrics and max 2 HQs so the return is mediocre. With the War Cabal your minimum is 400 points in rubric/scarab occult but can bring up to 4 sorcs. Best bang for your buck if you're a TS player that cares about being fluffy.

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>>52741935

Gonna happen sooner or later. GW needs all those IG players who are sitting on 200 lasgun guardsmen to buy them all over again.

I own 200 Elysians and I am not looking forward to the day GW tells me they are gone and its time to buy these 'new guardsmen' with a new type of lasgun and floating leman russ tanks

>>52741877
Well I play TS and I agree a lot with what you're saying but I wouldn't call them OP. Their strength is highly dependent on what spells you rolled and a lot of other factors. what was your list and did the board have lots of terrain?

>>52741961
>Magnus tried to stop the Horus Heresy though.
By using a shady and flaw plan that included the very forces responsible of the heresy out of hubris and holier than thou aptitude instead of the appropriate means, also it's Canon he fucked everything forever for everybody

>>52742022
That would be like removing Space Marines and Chaos from the game. They aren't gonna do it.

>>52742022
Not like you cant use your old figurines for casual plae

>>52742027
So he has flaws, so do the rest of the primarchs. His intentions were good, at least.

>>52741608
Honestly, that'd probably be cheaper than the 6 ironstriders

>>52742046
His flaws were more costly than any other primarch and are responsible of everything wrong in the galaxy, the Horus heresy would had been shorter and less damaging if only he had kept his shit together and follow the Emperor's mandate instead of
>LoL let's use gasoline to extinguish the fire

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This would actually be easier on my wallet, but I might've been able to buy more Ironstriders from Chinaman.

Are recasts generally frowned upon at tournament, or can you not tell if you paint them up well enough?

>>52742098
so he threw the galaxy into chaos and made it extremely unlikely that mankind would survive the debacle, so what. Tzeentch did it, so it was gonna happen anyway.

>>52742147
Take the knight back out of there. Knights aren't that good.

where did you get the ironstriders from? I got mine from Z and they are horrible quality, mold slip out the ass.

don't bring badly slipped or unpainted recasts to tournaments and nobody will notice.

>>52741944
I love everything about that picture

>>52742157
>Magnus was Neto blame it was somebody else fault
Typical Magnus fan, delusional and placing the blame on somebody else, in the end Russ and Mortarion were right, everyone's fears were right, everyone's warnings were right the only fool and guilty here was Magnus.

>>52742001
No idea there were 3 1k Players

>>52742147
>>52742182
Where do I find the chinaman?

>>52742182
I haven't ordered any yet, but I was actually gonna order them from Z. I've heard mixed reviews about the quality of Ironstriders from Z, but I'd rather take my chances with recasters than pay 60 god damn dollars per 45 points.

I was also thinking of just running a War Convo, but with 8E coming soon, I don't want to be stuck with an IK I was only bringing for the formation in the first place.

>>52742182
>Knights aren't that good.
Ok bud
Even with vehicles being weak af the invuln weaponry and stomps more than make up for it

>>52742244
The Orient.

But for real, take a look a round on the yoyhammer reddit. I was directed there a few threads ago and a bit of searching found me the Chinaman

>>52742026
Admittedly my list had no ap2 except a war scythe and deathmarks. I went in blind, both of us have several armies and just agreed on points so theres no chance of list tailoring.
I had an over lord with warscythe, phase shifter, nightmare shroud, res orb
5 lychguard with sword and board
3 tombblades
5 immortals
63 warriors, 10 in an ark, 2 squads of 20 and 1of 13
And 5 deathmarks. I got the reroll morale pinning and fear warlord trait. Ahriman has a set trait to infiltrate d3, he rolled a 6 so his whole army basically moved 6 inches closer, then he seized the initiative. He jumped 5 terminators up 12 with the astral grimoire, immobilized my ghost ark with the autocannon, other than that i lost 3 warriors. My turn i shuffled around, repaired one warrior and shot everything at the squad with ahriman 5 termies and ex sorcerer. He made every save. Turn 2 he jumped the rubrics up a building to gain Los on a squad, destroyed the ghost ark then charged the squad of 13 warriors. Killed a few but i made the morale test. My turn 2 deathmarks killed 1 terminator, and i charged ahriman with my warlord and lychguard. What followed was a slugfest that lasted 8 rounds of combat. We did the math, if a scarab occult terminator has a blessing on it you need to do 128 wounds to kill 1.

>>52742182
>>52742251
They're not bad but they're really not all that.

The invulnerable save is only on one side of the knight and you can only change it at the start of the enemy shooting phase, leaving it very vulnerable to witchfire powers. It's armour isn't that impressive either once you get past the invulnerable.

It does a lot of damage but it's easy to bring down with the right weaponry, leaving a big 400 point hole in your army.

>>52742268
Thank you anon. Off on my way to hopefully some Solar Auxila.

>>52742270
Ahriman took 2 wounds from my overlord then he did a glorious intervention with the exalted sorcerer, eventually he killed the overlord because of force

>>52742270
Sweet jesus. I'll call it unlucky then. Your warrior blobs should've pumped out enough shots to tear his meager infantry to pieces. Sure Rubrics have the 4++ but even 2+ termies die to massed fire, I should know, I field SO too.

Play again and take out the sorcerers ASAP.

>>52742281
Ive seen magnus kill 2 knights in one psychic phase because of the shield not being able to move

>>52742251
Ad mech don't need it. Some armies it fills a useful niche but Ad mech don't need a dakka knight and melee knights are tough to get into combat.
for the 400pts you could take a lot of grav kataphrons, or a big robot unit.

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Tyranids have a couple thousand points in reserves. And the army men are civilians which we're fighting over in the scenario we're doing.

>>52741902
I'd wouldn't mind that as a supplemental kit. My Knight needs a retinue of foot soldiers who aren't AdMech.

>>52741265

Wouldn't happen

Tuxedo Mask Always show up an throws a rose at the bad guy

Which leaves us Abaddon with a rose sticking out of his forehead and no idea what just happened

>>52742334
Once they get a blessing they reroll 1s and have a 3++ so even ap2 is pretty useless, look out sir usually saves any characters from damage anyway

>>52742250
just order 1/3 more ironstriders than you need. That makes sure you get enough to make the amount you actually want. if they turn out ok, you have some extras. I ordered 6, and managed to make 5.

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>>52742356
Godspeed GGA, may you overcome the buggers!

>>52742390
They do not re-roll saves of 1 unless they fulfill the Favoured of Tzeentch formation bonus. 10 SO and 10 Rubrics do not fit any of those things.

>>52742334
It was like a perfect storm of unlucky, hell he almost lost a rubric and the aspiring sorc to dangerous terrain from jumping into it but he gave them endurance so they had a 4+fnp.

>>52740638
You can't take Cawl in a Dominus Maniple.

If you want competitive Skitarii you want a War Convocation, you get all upgrades for free and they're a big deal for Skitariii.

>>52742420
any veteran of the long war with a blessing gets to reroll 1s in 1ksons.

>>52742449
wrong.
Cawl can replace a dominus in any formation that calls for a dominus.

>>52742454
They get +1 invun, not rerolls.

>>52742454
No, that's wrong. Veterans for the TS allows the +1 to your invuln save when they get a blessing. The Re-roll 1s on saves is ONLY for fulfilling the Favoured of Tzeentch formation bonuses from the formations in Wrath of Magnus/Traitor Legions.

Your opponent was either innocently misguided or flat-out cheated you.

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pls rate my CC list

>>52742499
He can replace Dominus in any AdM formation, that does not include Skitarii formations.

Can anyone recommend me some foam, preferably pluck-away style, so I can make custom trays for my DE. I'm starting to get tired of a couple of snapped pieces here and there every other time I play with them.

>>52742541
what's the point of the inquis and crew?

>>52742616
I like the Orangutans

>>52742571
the winning move is to remove all the spikey things from the de models.
there is no other way

>>52742504
He had the formations, are you saying he has to fill them out to get the reroll? Hes not a cheater, just cheesy, it could be an honest misreading of the rule.

>>52742718
Just read favoured of tzeentch. Im gonna kill him.

>>52742718
Yes he does. You said he had 10 terminators (max 2 squads of 5) and 10 rubrics (max 2 squads of 4+1 sorc), Ahriman and a Sorc or ExSorc. That's enough to get the War Cabal formation, but not enough to activate its Favoured of Tzeentch bonus.

To do that you need 4 sorcs, 3 units of rubrics and 3 units of terminators which would be 1200 just for the infantry. If you say so, but he was not eligible for the roll.

Fluffwise, how strong are Possessed compared to other Chaos Marines like Sorcerers and Berzerkers?

>>52742546
... Because pure skitarii formations don't use Admech dominuses (dominii?)

Where do people get some cheap models?
Aside from China. Ebay?

Just looking for some feedback on my Herald of Ruin 250pt Space Marine Kill Team list.

Chapter Tactics is Carcharadon Astra

Leader
- Company Champion
- Power Sword
- Storm Shield
- Oath of the Tireless Crusader (Crusader Special Rule)
- Bionics (FnP 6+)

Special
- 3 Sternguard Veterans

Core
- 6 Tactical Marines (w/ extra CCW)
- 1 Tactical Marine (Plasma Gun + extra CCW)

>>52742834
eBay.

Stores that do discounts.

>>52742815
It explicitly states he only has permission to replace the Tech Priest Dominus in a Cult Mechanicus Formation.

And if you want to be really pedantic about it the Dominus Maniple is technically neither AdM or a Skitarii formation as the data sheet has no inherent faction and GW have come out and said you must use the exact units on the data sheet in the start collecting boss. Which is fucked up because some boxes say Ranger, some say Vanguard.

>>52742370
I want to see this!

/tg/, is there a model a you're really proud of?

I love my blood angels captain, I gave him a jump pack, thunder hammer and lightning claw.
Thunder hammers look so good I considered giving one to my assault sargent or even, as crazy as it sounds, to my tactical sargent.

It's a shame it has no synergy with any of the blood angels special rules (+1s +1I on the charge) but it works well on the captain.

>>52742915
A units faction always applies.

If it has a dominus in it the it is, at least in part, a admech formation.

>>52742915
They did not say you had to use the "exact units." They said that you should use whichever version of the formation came in your particular box.

>>52742899
Any reliable or noteworthy sellers on Ebay to check out?
One I've seen so far is AAwargaming

>>52743011
Several, mostly reposed or converted. I put a fair bit of thought into many of my collection. Although it's small by many people's standards, each is beloved.

>>52743067
Just root around for deals.
I recently found an unpainted predator with exactly the configuration I wanted for 40% off the price of a new pred.

>>52742809
>sorcs
Depends entirely on thier power level and what kind of spells they've got rolling around, in one on one the sorc isn't much better than a normal marine so without psychic support I'd give it to the possessed
>zerks
It's be a hell of a fight but the possessed would probably come.out on top because of the whole half daemon thing making them not really feel pain

>>52743067
Sackpanda

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>>52740469

Anyone have any experience buying discount russian terrain?

>>52743296
That guy is great for betrayal at calth and burning of prospero kits

I've been thinking a lot about Meltas lately, and their name really bugs me. Why does it have an Ork style name? It would be more Imperial if it was called Melter.

Does anyone get the only war combat system?

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Can i get some more input on this list please? Destroyers have grav forgot to change that.

>>52743531
I personally never bought these, but they were really popular with Necromunda players a few years back.

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>>52741673
Pertruabo is my favorite Primarch. Based on whaat I see on this board though I'd say that's a minority opinion. Now I'm curious though. /tg/, who's your favorite Primarch?

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>>52740889

>>52743809
Lorgar. I do find it interesting that even though he's the literal mirror image of the Emperor appearance wise, very little art, if any, actually makes him look like the Emperor.

Through warp shenanigans you suddenly find yourself to be the leader of Your Dudes. Be it a Chapter Master, General, Chaos Lord, or Farseer. How do you react? What do you do first?

>>52743875
I would be a general.
And the first thing i would do is try to be a father to my men. Never throw away lives senselessly. Make them loyal and loving to me as possible.

Then. Should i be placed in charge in the retaking of some backwater system. I would try to liberate it covertly as i could, perhaps trying to get assistance from the naive and easily manipulated tau.

Then try and slowly forge my own empire.

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Tinkering with 1850 Thousand Sons for a tournament in a couple months. I just don't think Ahriman's Exiles is viable with a Grand Coven.

Not sure about the Screamer, and I've still got 38 points to play with. Maybe swap the Screamers for a Soul Grinder or more Horrors or another Herald or another Sorcerer?

++Grand Coven
+War Cabal
Ahriman- Disc- 260
Exalted Sorcerer- Disc, MoTz, ML3, Spell Familiar, Seer's Bane- 270
Sorcerer- Terminator Armor, Astral Grimoire, ML3, Spell Familiar, MoTz, VotLW- 195
Rubric Marines (5)- Rhino- 185
Scarab Occult (5)- Soulreaper Cannon, Hellfyre Missiles- 300
+Legion Armoury
Vindicator- Daemonic Possession- 135
++Daemon CAD
Herald of Tzeentch- Paradox, ML3- 120
Pink Horrors (11)- 99
Pink Horrors (11)- 99
Screamers of Tzeentch (3)- 75
Screamers of Tzeentch (3)- 75

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It's all over /tg/. The Guard have won. It was so unexpectedly stupid/ amazing we just ended it turn four as the Imperial forces beat back the Nids. What did you lads do?

So is 40k going to pull a wfb with a chaos wins ending?

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>>52743809
Sanguinius, fucker was crazy.

>>52743969
40k doesn't have Mannlet von Cuckstein.

>>52743875
Panic, because being warsmith of a grand battalion means that anyone ranked higher than squad leader is looking for ways I can be killed that won't get them in enough trouble to bar them from being promoted.

>>52743875
I'd be a tech priest.
first thing I'd do is give myself some more sweet upgrades. Then I go looking for STCs.

>>52743809
Alpharius.

>>52743949
What happened that was unexpected? Stray Lasgun that downed a Flyrant?

>>52744028
>implying the squad leaders aren't actively plotting your demise
>implying that anyone with geneseed in a chaos warband isn't actively plotting to seize control

>>52743875
>now a pretty strong exalted sorcerer
Oh shit. Time to learn how to control all these rubricae and master my psychic abilities so I can try destroying some space furries before screwing around.

>>52744083
Actually happed to a Trigon. But it was amazing how hilarious the game ended up being. There was this stupid plastic police car that kept rolling around and knocking over Gaunts and wad blaring it's stupid sirens the whole time as the world ended.

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>>52743875
>How do you react?
Terribly, since I know their luck with the dice.

>>52743875

>I am now a Necron Overlord

Guess I'll go twirl my mustache while comedically fucking things up and not giving a fuck.

Unless I'm also transported back to 3ed, in which case I'd probably just coldly calculate how much I hate the living, while clutching my phylactery.
I hope I get to do this one.

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>>52743875
>now a Succubus

I'd say I'd have some territory to claim with my wych cult and shadow cabal with all this daemon and Ynnari nonsense.

Anyone have the PDF versions of White Dwarf 46? Specifically the pages on how to paint the mephrit dynasty color scheme for the Necron?

>>52743875
I suppose I'll have to learn how to operate all these battle systems so I can spread the Greater Good. First on my agenda will be an attempted Webway incursion. Fuck the Dark Eldar.

>>52744242
I thought she had no pants on.

Do you normally thin imperial primer?
>inb4 brush primed

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>>52744403
>First on my agenda will be an attempted Webway incursion. Fuck the Dark Eldar.

You can try, but I hear most Tau are a little underwhelming in that regard. I mean, a man who walks around with a 120" range gun in his back pocket really must be compensating for something.

>>52744469

>I mean, a man who walks around with a 120" range gun in his back pocket really must be compensating for something.

Yes, the fact that he can't throw rocks hard enough to kill a man that far away.

If the emperor's penultimate plan was to hide humanity in the webway, why didn't the eldar do this once things went tits up?

>>52744403
>attempted webway incursion
Kek

Tau don't even know what the webway is.

Iirc, I think only Boss Zagstruk's actually done a sucessful Webway raid and killed a bunch of Jetbikers in retaliation for being faster than him.

>>52744511
Hey. The hypothetical was that 'I find myself to be the leader of My Dudes'. I know what the Webway is, so now the Tau do as well.

>>52744508

They did. They're literally the Dark Eldar

>>52744557
Wait Commargh is in the fucking webway?

>>52744553
But why should they believe you? What will you say when they ask where you recieved this information, as well as proof of it?

>>52744568
Correct.

>>52743875
I lead my brethren to invite the Sky Mothers down from the stars and overthrow the false emperor, one planet at a time. We begin laying the perfect traps to complement our Uprising and purge our enemies from the ranks of the PDF, while sabotaging whatever materiel we cannot commandeer.

Soon, all will join the Great Devourer and be as one, perfect and uninhibited by our petty differences--the Ordo Esotericus Dægoneth will ascend, and drag the dregs of this filthy planet with us!

>>52743809
magnus and fulgrim no doubt

>>52744403
>attacking the dark city while there are still daemons running around, an unknown quantity of mandrakes , an enraged Vect with literally no opposing archons to fuck around and the ever hunger haemonculi
Tau would not survive a mass scale unified attack from the dark eldars and their recent encounter with the imperium have left the tau in a bad position for an incursion of this magnitude.

>>52743875
It doesnt matter who im leading
Theyre screwed cause i a shit

>>52744403
Dark Eldar would screw you over the moment you thought about setting foot in the webway, same for the other Eldar. They'll defend that jealously.

Also the fact that there are more Eldar than there are Tau.

Also Tau don't even know what the Webway is.

>>52743531
i bought one second hand. Its great, no complaints, completely modular

>>52744403
>tfw I play Tau and DE
Confusing as fuck.
>Add in the fact that I also play GK
Well fuck...I don't know how to feel anymore.

So it looks like all the craftworlds are in the webway? Does this mean empy was literally ripping his longterm plan from the Eldar? Also if he was successful I assume the elves would not have been amused.

>>52744684
my little dronies are made with dirt which is even more plentiful than eldar faces used to tank my railguns

>>52744731
Look, you can be a fag, a superfag, or a psychicfag.

>>52744746
>So it looks like all the craftworlds are in the webway?

No, that's never been the case. Commoragh isn't a Craftworld. It's a literal city (or to be exact, a series of cities linked together) built into the fabric of the webway. Craftworlds are giant spacecraft.

>>52744242
"Oh shit I'm a Slaaneshi Vampire now..."

Lore aside my real self is nothing at all like my Chaos legion. I'm a very self controlled, meek person. To suddenly become a vampiric, badass, follower of the prince of excess and perfection...well I'm...nothing at all like that.

>>52744684
>there are more Eldar than there are Tau
Source? Never seen anything remotely definitive on eldar numbers.

>>52744830
Not that anon, but I'm assuming he'd be correct, seeing as the Tau don't even control an entire sector. But who knows? Maybe there really are only a handful of Eldar.

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>>52744746

This >>52744782

See pic related.

>>52744403
I am now Ahriman, or Exalted Sorc if named characters are a no-go

Guess I start up my spawn farm and begin experimenting on Tzaangors to breed Birdman Ogres while pillaging libraries across the galaxy.

I also launch an initiative to offer retirement plans for surviving minions

>>52744847
Didn't the Fall wipe of most of the Eldar? I mean, Craftworld Eldar are essentially refugees. How many Eldar can a Craftworld contain?

>>52743875
>Knight High King
>an entire Knight house at my disposal
>a good position in the imperium
>will crush most enemies I face
>even traitor Titans would fear a facing a full Knight house
>I only need to avoid special snow flakes like the special characters
I'll fuck the tau big time

So I've decided to pick up w40k and I've decided upon playing the dark angels BECAUSE I AM LOYAL TO THE EMPEROR AND HAVE NEVER TOUCHED OR LIKED ANYTHING CHOAS-Y. A friend's brother gave me a set of tactical space marines, but I see there are Tactical Dark angels too. Are there any difference to these, or can I use normal space marines?

>>52744866
Thank you anon that was informative. I am a guard player so my knowledge of Eldar fluff approaches zero. So in the fall the webway got busted up and is no longer a place you can hide from chaos?

>>52744920
Just paint them dark green and they are the same thing brother.

>>52744908
>I only need to avoid special snow flakes
>go after tau

So it turns out covering a model in 'ardcoat isn't the best way to make it look like they're wearing a latex suit.

Although, it doesn't look too bad. Don't think I could have done a better job of it if I tried doing speculative highlights so meh

>>52744920
Also, do I still need to get the Adeptus astartes codex or is the Dark Angels one enough?

>>52743875
I am now a Rogue Trader with the full authority of the Emperor behind me. I am in command of a fleet, a Regiment of household troops, my mercenary auxiliaries, and have connections to the Adeptus Mechanicus. Time to carve out an empire in my own name, while of course sending the appropriate tithes back to Terra.

>>52744920
Those just have a Dark Angel upgrade kit you can buy for $15. Got some nice bits you can customize your dudes with.

>>52744758
>DE
>Fag
Stupid dumb craftworld scum

>>52744990
Retard, Tau is fag.

DE are Superfag.

Anybody know where someone could find some models to play Battleflleet Gothic? I've been interested in trying it out for a bit, and since it no longer is supported I don't know where to find the models/recasts/stand ins to play. As well, are there even any sets left with the rulebook and basic stuff?

>>52743809
Dorn.
Though I don't care for the bullshit writing from Black Library.

>>52744755
>tau fag sends drones
>drones get lost forever because webway
>dark eldars feel this attempt to breach their webway as an insult
>show up at T'au without warning
>steal their homeworld star
>leave their homeworld system in chaos as they freeze to death because there's no star anymore
This is the future you choose

>>52744847
Do the Eldar control an entire sector? I was under the impression they we're all basically hiding, besides exodite worlds, which I don't think is ever mentioned how many they are. I mean we only know of like a handful of craftworlds, which should at best equate to a planetary population. Who knows about DE numbers or Harlequins either? Though I'm doubting that there are hordes of space clowns just waiting to flood the universe from the webway.

Tau on the other hand live in a super dense star cluster, the number of planets they control as well as pop. numbers are unknown because GW = bad at maths. But I think there are more known Septs then we have known craftworlds. And they've got to have a decent pipeline of just Fire Caste alone as they've been feeding them into the Imperials, ala the last campaign where they were just throwing bodies at the Raven Guard and White Scars just to side track them.

>>52744954
Dark Angels one is enough

>>52744933

Imagine the Webway as an underwater series of tunnels and that the fall was a mag 10 earthquake. Now replace the water with the warp and imagine the damage that was done. Some places are unusable, much of it is damaged, but it still works.

>>52744225
Police car mvp

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>>52744403
>in charge of nearly a massive combined arms IG army, an AdMech war convocation, a full battle company of Blood Ravens, three squads of Grey Knights and a squad of Paladins lead by Sturnn, a Deathwatch killteam, an execution force, a baronial court of oathsworn knights, and a battlefleet of 13 capital ships with four full escort squadrons
Rev up that crusade boys, we Lord Commander Solar now.

>>52745021
Eldar don't formally control any known sector, but are scattered across the galaxy in decent numbers, and the DEldar have a gigahueg city in the webway. Also because I personally doubt that a race that's been more powerful and popular than humans in the past could have their numbers dwindle so in merely 10,000 years, but it is a possibility.

>tau feeding Fire Warriors into the Imperials
That's more just bad writing, as is most of the Tau campaign stuff, rather unfortunately. I'm rather sad about that, as I want to like Tau, but very little of anything written about them is actually legitimately good. I hate how they went from Combined Arms to Suits are the best we don't need Tanks or Fliers anymore.

You also have to remember the fact that every Eldar citizen is trained for combat, whereas the Tau strictly have the Fire Caste.

But another thing is that the Tau are too small. They don't own a sector, which is important, as the Imperium of Man own many sectors, as well as the fact that lore-wise, the Tau are under the threat of Mankind getting annoyed enough to send an actual, meaningful Crusade against them and eradicate them.

My post is very garbled because I am feeling very sick right now, sorry.

>>52743875
>Suddenly i am Alpharius, commander of what seems to be almost a company of Alpha Legion.
>My brothers beside me are Horus Heresy era Marines, clad in MK IV, MK VI and a few MK VII/III
>They too are Alpharius, they hold bolters, volkites, snipers and anything they are required too.
>Our dreadnoughts, Two Contemptors, one with duel volkites to get rid of any local resistance, the other with the standard fist and assault canon to mow down any marines we may encounter., they may be are also Alpharius.
>The few terminators we have, 5 Lernaeans, 5 Tataros, and a few dozen Indomitus. They are invaluable to our cause, for they too are Alpharius, and they too help lead us to our eventual goal.
>Our operatives help us spread destruction where we need, gather us inlet of what we need, allow us to grow by picking prominent members to join us long before the imperium notices them.
>We have no need for chaos or gods, we remain loyal to our goal, set up by our legion we work in secrecy and in darkness ever loyal to the goal.

Im too much of an alpha legion fag.

How would /tg/ recommend converting regular Chaos Marines into Plague Marines with Greenstuff? I was thinking of giving them pot bellies and adding some weird melted flesh/pustular skin coming off their heads onto their shoulders or something along those lines, but I'm not sure how to get the texture right

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>>52745021
>And they've got to have a decent pipeline of just Fire Caste alone as they've been feeding them into the Imperials, ala the last campaign where they were just throwing bodies at the Raven Guard and White Scars just to side track them.

Remember when some Librarian channeled his psychic abilities into some planetary geo-thermal layline and killed MILLIONS of Fire Warriors. Bravo GW. Bravo.

>>52745177
remember when tau didn't have the wherewithal to enter wars of attrition, and their military doctrine was based entirely around that

>>52745127
Don't forget that 95% of the Eldar were wiped out almost instantaneously in the Fall. The Eye is the heart of their empire and the Eldar at their height had pulled back towards it as they had little reason to be widespread because of their mastery of technology and their use of the webway. No reason to have settlements all over the galaxy when you can travel to any world you would actually want to visit using a short jaunt; and you sure as hell dont need the resources. Humans are only distributed the way they are because of how warp travel functions.

One more question:

As I've decided to play as the dark angels, am I allowed to create my own subchapter/successor chapter within following their rules?

>>52745249

No, you cannot. The GW police will arrest you and take away your models if they find out you're even thinking about doing such a thing.

>>52745249
Yep. You'll have to Counts as the Named Characters, but it's cool. My favorite successor chapters are the Consecrators, whom are known for having not a single suit of MkVII or MkVII, and the Angels of Absolution, known for believing that they are not guilty, and have an enjoyment of dark and gallows humor.

I don't give a shit about tourny legal things. Is orks a good choice for me?

I wanna glue a tank gun onto a tonkantruck

>>52745249
Yes you can because you are TRUE and LOYAL servants of THE EMPEROR who were raised from the gene stock of the unimpeachable LOYAL 1st legion and there is NOTHING SUSPICIOUS about your no doubt spotty history in the least and you and your dudes are most certainly NOT GUILTY of that thing that you had no idea about anyway.

Everyone always calls Lorgar the worst primarch, but what about Curze? Did Konrad do ANYTHING of note besides fail at everything?

>>52745341
I don't think so. Vulkan even did a Bane on him, by breaking his back.

Heck, Curze An Hero'd by letting an Assassin kill him.

Actually, Curze IS pretty bad since Curzefag exists, as well as the Prophet of the 8th and the themesong guy exist as well.

>>52745127
>more powerful and popular than humans in the past could have their numbers dwindle so in merely 10,000 years

Okay, everything falls apart here because apparently you forgot about The Fall, and Slannesh literally eating their entire race. We are not talking about like eating a big part of the eldar race, or a majority, we're talking pushing them to extinction. We are talking about the Eldar losing every major and minor world they held. The exodite worlds are their assbackwards hillbilly outpost so far out in the boonies they they managed to survive. And the only other survivors were those lucky enough to have been in a safe part of the webway (Dark Eldar), and some of the 1st craftwrolds that left (because there were those that weren't far enough out and we're destroyed or sucked in subsequently as well).

>I hate how they went from Combined Arms to Suits
totally agree with this.
>They don't own a sector
That still says nothing, because everything is pretty much owned by the Imperium. Look at the whole map, and besides the EoT, everything is pretty much Imperial Space. Is there a Necron sector? Is there an Eldar sector? or tyranids? They are all still major players and it has nothing to do with owning their own little shiny sector.

>>52745341

Curze slapped Dorn around so badly he had a mental break down.

>>52745341
>what about Curze?
unlike lorgar, he had the sense to get himself killed

why do people even like tyranids?

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>>52743875
First things first I suppose I'd brutally murder a few potential upstarts so that my other followers don't get any traitorous ideas for a bit.

After that I make sure I have the best weapons and armor I can get, hire some (semi)loyal Incubi bodyguards to keep my back somewhat safe, try to get in good with a Haemonculus so that if I die he can regenerate me, and learn how to play the deadly game of politics in Commorragh.

>>52745301
100%
There's a guy at my game store whose Killa Kans were just kinder eggs with sprue pieces glued on the sides

>>52745376
Necrons have the excuse of Ancient Egyptians are awaking.

Tyranids have just begun to enter the Galaxy.

Eldar are dead.

Iirc, Orks actually do control a couple sectors, and there's even two Ork enpires that, if they stopped being at war against eachother, could easily stop Abbaddon.

>>52745341
primarch ranking tier

horus>sanguinius>fulgrim>roboute>magnus>dorn>vulkan>angron>ferrus>perturabo>lorgar>khan>corax>curze>johnson>alpharius everyone else is forgettable

>>52745443
Leman russ though

>>52745278
Thanks for the insight brother

>>52745313
Thanks for the Ordo Kekinatus brother

>>52743875
I suppose I would be an ethereal. I would probably going around spreading word to my people that space marines and imperium of man are butthurt cause our riptides are so awesome.

>>52745213
They also only "won" the Damocles Crusade because a much larger threat emerged that the Imperium needed to focus on. Prior to the Tyranids rolling in with Kraken and some other hive fleets the Tau were having a comparatively rough fight with what was then a relatively small crusade fleet.

Now they curb stomped the crusade which they upped to being the size of a massive battlefleet and handedly out manourvered Imperial Navy vessels between systems despite having FTL that is barely a quarter the speed of a Chartiste Trader.

This is what most people bitch about when they talk about plot armor for the Tau in the new fluff. The writers establish things about the Tau (like how much slower their starship are) then promptly ignore it and have them somehow do exactly the thing they were played up to not be able/wouldn't do and ham fistedly toss them the win.

I enjoyed the fluff more when they were a dangerous and adaptable enemy on the local scale but we're woefully underprepared and outmatched when encountering anything beyond fringe colonies. It gave them the little fish in a big ocean feel while keeping the underdog flavor with their own dark aspects. Now it comes off as can-do-no-wrong good guy wankery with some Shonen esque deus ex secret technique that always beats the bad guy no matter the odds.

>>52745465
oh yeah put leman equal to magnus

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>>52740469
>playing eternal crusade
>only tactical marines can capture objectives
>assault marines can't
For what purpose?

>>52745177
GW is are good at maths...

>>52745399

Currently, it's a sexual thing.
A long time ago, they were actually a very fun race, with more customization than any race in the history of 40k.

>>52745491
Assault marines dont have objective secured.

>>52745491
I just think they wanted to create some team dynamic in the game but totally missed their goal

>>52745508
I should have specified that I'm talking about the vidya gaem

>>52745522
I think they went a few steps backwards a bit from Space Marine's multiplayer

>>52745491
Ground assaults can just not jump units.

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>>52745491
>>playing eternal crusade

>>52745556
I am having fun with it so far

Does anyone know where I can find the fluff for solar auxilia?

>>52745573
>solar auxilia

Not 40k

>>52745491
>play eternal crusade
>literally only dire avengers for eldar can cap
>they're shitty with no damage and die to a stiff breeze

>>52745573
In the Horus Heresy campaign books.

Any thoughts on Vaylund Cal? He seems super hard to kill, but being unable to go into rhinos or deep strike is awkward. Was thinking of running him with honor guard in a land raider but that's going to be close to 700 points without even using up all the transport slots.

>>52745598
>dire avengers
>no damage
Dude what? They legit kill in 2-3 shots

>>52745627
>they die in 2 shots
Fixed that for you

So for giving my sergeants power weapons do I have to keep it same every game or can I say he's taking a maul one game and then the next say it's a sword? Cause it just says power weapon for the upgrade.

>>52745658
Yes, Power Weapon encompasses the four types, Maul, Sword, Axe, and Lance (which has no model), and must be modeled as such.

>>52745658
Unless you magnetize the arm, you play with what the model has.

>>52745678
>Lance

What the fuck even is the point?

>>52745687
We just don't know.

>>52745678
>>52745681
So you can semi tailor if you magnetize then?

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>>52743809

>>52745702
Ask your TO. They are the only one that can answer this for you.

>>52745473
>despite having FTL that is barely a quarter the speed of a Chartiste Trader

Dude that was cannon in the 1st Tau codex, and iirc never mentioned again. GW doesn't even talk about space ship speeds anymore because the whole system is nonsensical to begin with, and paints them into the corner in terms of writing.

Granted GW are still shit writers, but thinking the Tau (whose whole trope is a race with rapidly advancing tech) is still stuck with snail speed starships, because it was mentioned in their 1st codex, is silly.

I mean, according to GW, due to the variances of the warp, fleets end up arriving years later.
And yet we've got worlds being taken over basically overnight and then some mary sue arriving just in the nick of time, etc. etc.

>>52743875

...I am Kol Janin the Hellblessed, One with the Truth, Eightfold Champion of the Empyrean and once-Coryphaus to 109th Host XVII. And my immediate reaction is "fuck, how does ANY of this work?!?" because, as a rule, I would be currently banished to the warp and supposed to be sending signs and portents to my old Host.

The idea is that they need them to discover/aquire/properly desecrate whichever macguffin it is this time before they can bring me back early and "crusade once more beneath the gaze of the Primordial Truth made flesh". Which is to say, act *super* smug while cruising around the Maelstrom because they roll with a personal Prince of Undivided, fully manifested and cursebound to their righteous cause. Except when their righteous cause is resummoning me to the banner of their righteous cause, of course.
Which does immediately present some problems. I'm supposed to know how and what to send for the portents thing based on details of the bind-curse underpinning this whole thing, but I never actually wrote those details when I created this fluff. Not having my banishment lifted means being stuck in the warp, where I might have to start explaining how "Undivided" managed to grant me ascension. I have a feeling that'd be an awkward conversation.

>>52744905
Millions I would imagine. Which is obviously not a whole lot.

How many Dark Eldar are there though? And how do they even go to war? Do they even have a space fleet?

>>52745990
I am going to go with they just pop out of the webway in their raiders.

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>>52743809
Rogal Dorn.

>>52745687
The thing on the end

>>52745990

Dark eldar don't need to go to war. They literally just pop into Realspace when they're bored, cripple their target, steal a bunch of shit like such as people, and fuck off back to Commorragh

>>52745990
I'd imagine that there are probably a few billion Dark Eldar by the estimates of the sheer size of Commorragh and it's neighboring realms. My personal understanding is that Commorragh itself could be roughly the size of North and South America(probably still bigger), but literally ALL city with no wildlife. Remember, they MOVED 4-5 dying stars into the Webway to use as their suns(called the Ilmaea) and coats the entirety of the city in a dim greenish light.

But yeah, DE don't ever go to war unless there's a Dysjunction and that only happens in the webway(read: Commorragh), but it's more of a survival of the fittest when the Daemons come to town. Otherwise, DE just go out in raiding parties as a part of their Kabal. There's no established DE Military that anyone can join. You can be "convinced" to join the Kabal of the Black Heart, lead by the Supreme Overlord of Commorragh, though.

Do you think anyone could recreate the thunder warriors? Could you get similar results with ogryn as a base? Although I am not sure you could get them smart enough.

>>52746166
>they MOVED 4-5 dying stars into the Webway to use as their suns

If you need 5 Suns to light up your city then it clearly isnt the size of a continent, its probably closer to the size of 5 solar systems since you need 5 stars to light the whole thing and that would be the parts of the city where sunlight reaches, imagine a city the size of 5 systems and then its depths underground where the sunlight doesnt reach and its nothing but dark alleys and shitty artificial light.

>>52740493
That was basically the assessment of that citadel in the second Blood Angels book, on Shenlong. The place was touted as a fortress beyond compare due to it.

Or was that what that image was referencing the entire time?

>>52746236
They have flippy-flappy ancient eldar magics to make them smaller. They're inside some "cages". In Path of the Dark Eldar, the Daemon invasion is messing with them and they start swelling, threatening to destroy just about everything in the city.

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I'm looking to play again and have interest in:

Tyranids
Necrons
Dark Eldar
Plague Marines / Demons
Skitarii

In short, as someone getting into the game, which faction is going to be the most "fun" ?

>>52746313
>40kek
>fun

>>52745585
Did they stop existing after the Heresy?

>>52743067
R3warstore, Updates his listing pretty irregularly but once in a while you can get some pretty good deals at a low bid.

I once got 6 stealth suits for about 28 USD, and were okay painted.

Usually the listings are by army, so like all Dark Angels or all Tau.

>>52746352
Believed they turned into the Scions while the ones they couldn't arm with the good weapons became Astra Millitarium.

>>52746313
Necrons or Skitarri. Run far away from Tyranids, and Chaos is always a crapshoot. Dark Eldar are in a bad place because they lost a bunch of their special characters and are a melee-focused army in a shooting-focused edition.

>>52746313
>implying there is anything fun about 40gay

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the guard always hold the line

>>52746413
The line of unpainted grey plastic yeah

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>>52746413
Damn right.

>>52746393
can I run a necron army NOT consisting of a bunch of fliers without getting my face stomped in?

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>>52746413
It's ok I fought him with my mostly painted blue man group

>>52746413
How can you defend the line when you're so far away from it!

>>52746439
With lots of leman russes

>>52746438
>6th edition rulebook
???

>>52746438
What is that, an army of nothing but raptors and a Cyclopia Cabal?

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>>52746456
Ye i brought the wrong book

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>>52746461
Night lords
Raptors and a terminator annihilation force

>>52746437
Fliers aren't a meta choice for necrons anymore.

>>52746464
>increase distance from chart until it is readable
>or just use the thumbnail

>>52746492
Who knows maybe some people are viewing on a 4K tv

>>52746166
While numbers are probably unknown, it's not like Dark Eldar have a shortage of bodies. Kabalites are for all intensive purposes clones.

While they still take a while to grow, they don't grow nearly as slowly as a regular Eldar which according to fluff takes a very fucking long time. Sorta wonder how a race of slow populating elves could ever achieve enough numbers fast enough to rule the galaxy.

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>tfw only nid player at my flgs is a scummy nid player who only spams flyrants and mucolid spores
>tfw he doesn't know half the rules because he doesn't own any rulebooks and just watches miniwargaming

>>52746520
>mwg
For what purpose

>>52746313
Tzeentch daemons are broken currently
Death Guard is mid high tier and they're also getting new models

>>52746520
Holy shit, I haven't bought a book in years but I at least make sure I know what rules I'm using out of them.

>>52746547
What about them makes them broken?

>>52746481
Why didn't you deepstrike the terminators then?

>>52746564
A full 1850 army of tzeentch daemons can have about 30 warp charges to summon more daemons who in turn, give more warp charges. Also flying psychic lords of change.

>>52746564
They can generate ridiculous amounts of warp charges, have a 2+ invuln half of the time that re-rolls ones, they can summon spam other daemons for free,
Also if you have a thousand sons detachment you can take magnus the red with them

>>52746564
Daemon summoning basically means they get endless free units which also means more warpcharges.

>>52746575
2 of the three squads deep striked

>>52745005
Flip them dumbass
and then switch DE with Eldar

>>52746393
>what is venom spam
>what are raiders with night shields
>raiders with darklances
>scourges
>eldar jetbike spam AND eldar battle brothers if you're a faggot

yeah, no, Dark Eldar are pretty decent

>>52746393
>Chaos is always a crapshoot.
Confirmed for not knowing shit, death guard are literally broken and make almost every other legion look bad

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>>52746784
But if you don't want to play death guard...

>>52746844
The dude literally said he was interested in death guard.

>>52746866
>he literally said he was interested in death guard
Actually, he said he was interested in Plauge Marines
Learn what "literally" means you illiterate fuck

>>52746481
>Raptors+TAF
I was thinking about doing this, too. How does it play out?

>>52743809
>Guiliman

I like jack of all traits, master of none style of the ultramarines.

Can I put Storm troopers inside of aircraft before they come on from reserve?

>>52746956
The raptors will do all of the work, the terminators are just so stupidly priced not even the annihilation force will help that much, they'll fail reserve rolls and just scatter to nowhere and that's not where you want to be with such an expensive unit

I'm gonna swap them for ten bikers with upgrades and a helldrake ASAP