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Rolled 20 (1d26)

Thallax OP plz nerf edition
Varied Knight support subedition

A new player got advice through all of Mars' cabling, the Coronus is as way oversized as the Triaros, Mechanicum Fortified Their Position against the Emperor's Guard and Apothecaries cannot into artillery. Custodes look boring even with 17 player leagues, Decima tries to steal Land's Raider, but gets driven off by subatomic machine guns. Thunder Warriors are too numerous even with XCom mindshields, but don't fit in SM armour. All this and more in the last thread >>52712937

>READ MOTHERFUCKER READ
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>Official HH 7th Edition Errata (Updated January 2016)
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Horus_Heresy/Horus_Heresy_7th_Edition.pdf

>30k TACTICA & TIPS
What to include in a HH list, how to format it, what makes each legion special (crunch), tactics, Tutorials for Heresy-era minis and more
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>HH Books, Novels and Rulebooks galore
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>/HHG/'s Legion demographics
http://www.strawpoll.me/10558764 (embed)

>/HHG/'s allegiances
www.strawpoll.me/10663447 (embed)

>Oct 16 White Dwarf
http://www.mediafire.com/file/zm71nli980zr97h/WhiteDwarf_Oct16.pdf

>Primarch Popularity Poll
http://www.strawpoll.me/11458318 (embed)

>HHG Discord
https://discordapp.com/invite/wYS2J6b

>THREAD SPAMMING SHIT BAIT
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http://www.mediafire.com/file/sc266oa6al1jb7o/the-binary-succession.mp3
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So are the Superheavy Tanks still lackluster next to Knights in this, or are some of the ones less common in 40k as good? Stuff like Malcadors, Fellblades, Typhon. Anything there worth not just taking the stompy robots instead?
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>Shit Eaters
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>>52733925
How can WEfags ever recover?
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>>52733865
Knights still generally under cost, most older generation super heavy vehicles over cost.
Typhon is still really good for the dosh.
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>>52733993
By not giving way easily.
Chaos has always been the most prominent punchbag faction, only propped up by numerous asspulls. What's this little insult in a sea of humiliation?
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Warders are black, what other Custard variant schemes would be fluff-friendly?
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>>52734022
Same trend, then. I heard that the Solar dudes had some kind of giant awesome flamer tank. Is it basically an Acheron on wheels? Because I always liked tanks more than walkers, and the Acheron is best Knight IMO.
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>>52734176
>custard

Even if not on purpose, well done.

So I do I need secutarii to be good?

>i have 40 adsecularis, 20 converted with heavy chainsaws
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>>52734056
>Chaos has always been the most prominent punchbag faction
I would argue that the Orks and SoBs are big contenders for that.
>only propped up by numerous asspulls. What's this little insult in a sea of humiliation
Good point.
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>>52734246
One, pics of chainblade Adsec plz. Two, no, you don't need Secutarii, Fearless Adsec are just fine and are a lot better for tarpitting. Secutarii work better for sticking in Triaros and being more offensive, since they do good damage at range, but they're not Fearless so can't CC or defend for shit.
Droplites are a good suicide squad, but other than that they're on the "good but not amazing" shelf, and get better with an Axiarch and Titan.
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Friendly reminder, Kor Phaeron is a biiitch.
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3000 Point Blackshields Force
Wrought By War: Chymeriae, Type 2

HQ
Blackshield Reaver Lord 225
Halo Blade
Digital Lasers
Cyber Familiar
Rad Grenades
Artificer Armor
Iron Halo

Elites
Apothecarion Detachement 130
2x Apothecaries
2 power swords
2 Artificer Armor

Terminator Squad 335
Tartaros Armor
+5 Terminators
2 Chainfists
4 Power Fists

TROOPS
Blackshield Marauder Squad 326
+13 marauders
lascarbines
3 power swords
Lighting claw
Apothecary
Reaver Lord

Blackshield Marauder Squad 338
+14 marauders
Lascarbines
3 power swords
Lighting claw
Apothecary

Blackshield Marauder Squad 281
+5 Marauders
+8 Bolters
+2 Plasmaguns
Rhino Transport
+Havoc Launcher

Blackshield Marauder Squad 281
+5 Marauders
+8 Bolters
+2 Plasmaguns
Rhino Transport
+Havoc Launcher

Fast Attack
Storm Eagle Gunship 270
lascannons
Armored Ceramite

Storm Eagle Gunship 270
lascannons
Armored Ceramite

Storm Eagle Gunship 270
lascannons
Armored Ceramite

Heavy Support
Storm Eagle 240
Armored Ceramite
Hellstrike Missiles

Is this a decent list? Is four aircraft floating around too cheesy? Fluffwise I was picturing these as loyalist Emperors Children who decided that their legion wasn't nearly loyal enough, but the Custodes were clearly loyal as shit, so they would try to emulate the Custodes. Thus the large amount of fliers, to copy the floating, and the BS/WS boost. The Leadership penalty I took as something of an excessive watchfulness for any signs of disloyalty, to the extent of intepreting casualties as a sign of the Emperor's disfavor.

Tactics wise it's something of a blunt instrument, with the terminators/marauder blobs in storm eagles to punch the opponent square in the face, while the smaller rhino squads hold objectives. I figured once they'd dumped off their troops the storm eagles would be my AA/Anti armor option, and the fire raptor is there to be extra anti-horde.
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>>52734493
Do we have any memet my son 30k edits?
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>>52734572
>Four storm eagles
How?
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>>52734717
The heavy support should be a fire raptor. That's a typo.
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>>52734746
>Fire raptor
Figured, but still good
I'm assuming the 15man marauder squads and terms are in the storm eagle?
If you go any bigger, I would personally give your other two marauder squad some more ground support, but overall I like it
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>>52734592
There's one describing the creation of Pharos.
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Getting there.
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>>52735261
I would have put the transfers closer to the ridges, this looks kinda wierd.
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>>52733779
The threads always reach page 10 like at 2am or so. Why can't Aussie posters make new breads?
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>>52735109
I remember that one. Can anyone here make a more /hhg/ flavored one?
>/hhg/, you are man now.
>will you pick one of these 16 legions, or will you pick Iron Warriors and Death Guard?
Something like that.
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>>52735413
Well, I seem to be making the majority of the threads recently, and I'm a britfag, so that was 3PM for me. Day after tomorrow I go back to work, so they'll probably not be showing up again until 6ish if no-one else picks up any slack. That should have them popping up at more reasonable times.
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>>52735494
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>>52734493
can someone edit in a heart in the bottom right corner
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>>52734493
He is?
He is not even a full astartes, yet he managed to carve the heart out of a primarch.
Not to mention that him and Erebus essentially orchestrated the whole Horuse Heresy.
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>>52736276
Errrr which primarch exactly ?
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>>52736341
Bobby.
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>>52736276
>he managed to carve the heart out of a primarch
other way around, mate
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>>52736350
That was the other way around I'm afraid. Roughbutt Girlyman tore Erebus' heart out of his chest with a powerfist.
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>>52734022
With the new Thunderhawk coming I hope it gets a points drop. My list that has it is 3500 and that seems less likely to see action then my 2500 point list.
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>>52736375
>>52736395
Kor Phaeron stabbed Guilliman in the primary heart with the magical chaos knife that turned Horus.
Unfortunately Bobby walked it off being the mary sue that he is, then tore out Kor Phaeron's heart.
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>>52736494
No, Kor Phaeron was pricking Guilliman in the neck.

Looks like Alpharius got you good.
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>>52734179
>I heard that the Solar dudes had some kind of giant awesome flamer tank
Pic related?

It's s a Heavy Support choice for the SA (so yes, they could have like 3 of the fuckers), but anyone can take them as a LoW, and they exist in 40k too
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>>52735494
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>>52734176
As far as I can remember, the only official schemes shown in inferno are gold, black, and purple of all things!
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>>52736705
Yeah, that's the one. Anyone can take one? That's damn helpful, since I kind of want to do a Mechanicum force with lots of tanks rather than robots. Looks cool, too.

Is it any good? Malcador chassis tends to die a lot when the local Guard player brings his Defender, although my 40k Mechanicus basically ignore armour values at all times so that's probably not the best metric.
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>>52734176
are you feeling adventurous?

you could do a Praetorian Guard themed squad. Purple-black armour with gold, and silver trim.
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>>52736821
>Is it any good?

18'' Hellstorm template with Str 7 AP 3. But if that isn't enough it can take an upgrade that makes it poison 2+ AP 2.

Basically if a Malcador Infernus is on the field any and all infantry have to stay inside transport vehicles, otherwise they're gone. This thing can move 12'' and throw down an 16.5'' flamer template sidesways to erase an entire gunline.
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Done my last test model, the lighting seems to have not picked out the red edge highlights very well. I think I'll go with fleshy pinky highlights instead.
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>>52736888
Trips confirm they're regal Spec Ops.
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>>52736910
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>>52736732

Only official doesn't mean only fluff friendly!

I'm thinking, what kinds of altered colour schemes are still fitting to the faction?
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>>52736910
Full on 'eavy metal tier painting my man.

That's ridiculously good. The markings on the faceplate are particularly good.
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>>52736821
>Anyone can take one?
Yeah, the exact wording of it differs from army to army, but at a minimum you can use your LoW slot on one

The Admech can spend their slot on most imperial superheavies (occasionally qualifying as "indigenous war machines" and the works of random magi) I think, but don't quote me on that - and the Malcador is Heresy-era anyway

The Legions used to have a "take anything" rule (pictured, no longer correct, at least for the legions), but then they made a proper list
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>>52736932
>>52736932
he got tp stuck in the back
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>>52736727
Thanks!
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>>52736727
noice
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>>52736895
Holy hell, quite literally. That's far stronger than the fucking TITAN GUN, and half the price. That's an order of magnitude above any other tank I've seen, given the one that carries the Plasma Blastgun is a Baneblade-Type. And these guys get three of them?

>>52737086

Hey, nice. I always thought the 40k Admech didn't have enough variety.
Looking at that LoW uses bit in the Mech book I can take two of the damn things at once.

Compared to the Warhound I can get for a similar point cost, they even have an extra Hull Point (counting void shields) in exchange for slightly worse armour and the ability to position each separately, and Blessed Autosim on both is mathematically identical to the 5+ Void Shield regen. That'll make a hell of a centerpiece, although I don't swim in enough money or dickishness to take two.
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>>52736932
>Purity seal on butt armour
>In religious legion with lots of chaplains aka warrior priests

And I thought Emperor's Children were the naughty ones :^)
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>>52736973
Well you could fluff a detachment that works exclusively with the sisters and have them wear the same brass with purple robes scheme

There are also images out there of red vehicles with golden trim for the custodes, maybe have a mechanised force of bananas going fast
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>>52737249
>And these guys get three of them?
Yes, but one is usually enough. Specially in combination with the SA HQ choice that allows you to pick warlord trait, and taking the SA trait that gives your entire army INCLUDING FUCKING SUPERHEAVIES Shrouded in the first game turn, just to make sure it is impossible to kill before firing.
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>>52736932
>>52737269
SLAP THAT RED HOT PURITY SEAL ONTO MY BUTTOCKS BRUVA!
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It's a shame this emblem doesn't come out well, or at all consistent enough for mass-printing. I guess I'll stick with either transfers (ugh) or use my Forgeworld pads. Plus I'll commission some custom transfers for my Cyclopean Hand chapter.

>>52737334
>>52737269
>>52737177

Your blasphemy is tolerated this time, heretics...
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>>52737269
Got a good laugh out of me.
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>>52735261
those transfers look weird, the eagle is cut in half so you can nest it up against that edge
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>>52734176
>>52736973
For the armour you'd have Golden, Silver (or Platinum) and Black
For accesories like capes the colours that make sense are all kinds of purple, blue, red, white, even green.
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>>52736727
I feel like Alpharius needs to be in here somewhere.
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>>52736732
>gold... and purple of all things!
Looks like the Custodians felt threatened by the real sons of the Emperor.
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>>52737561
You always want more alpharius in meme images. If it were up to you, the thread would be nothing but alpharius memes.
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>>52737411
>Your blasphemy is tolerated this time, heretics...

Hey there's nothing wrong with a little "Bend over and recieve my blessing !" from time to time ;^)
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>>52735261
Transfers look like shit m8
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SATURNINE TERMINATORS WHEN
CUSTODES HEAVY DREAD WHEN
CUSTODES TERMINATORS WHEN

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>52737741
After Alpharius and Dorn get models.
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>>52737783
>But they're never gonna get models
>Screams in superior super soldier
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Man, at this rate we're going to have to take the Most Productive trophy off the death guard players (who themselves took it off the night lords players) and give it to the custodes players. They're really churning the golden bananas out.

I wonder who'll get the Most Productive trophy after Angelus comes out. Maybe daemons, as you can be really lazy painting them if you want, just basecoat and wash. Maybe a drybrush as well if you're feeling a bit hoity toity.
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>>52737783
Those two are probably never going to get models by now. By now even FW realizes that the majority of IF and AL players have lovingly crafted their own version out of disappointment, so there's not enough money to get there. Maybe we'll get another three walking robot versions as compensation.
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>>52737977
It's hard to care about a primarch with a bolter and chainsword and a dead primarch.
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>>52737885
By my predictions it would probably be one of the Angel legions. The Chaos players can use the daemons they have already made for this.
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>>52737689
You say that as if its a bad thing
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>>52738022
My bet would be on Dark Angels. Easy to paint, to probably going to see a lot of people churn out units.

It's just a matter of black undercoat, painting metal bits and applying transfers after all.
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>>52738140
>Easy to paint
Nah, if you don't edge highlight it properly pure black looks shit. I actually think it's harder than yellow or white to make look good.
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>>52738140
If I had money and a place to play I would try my hand at pumping out six gorillion DAs.
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>>52737689
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>>52737334
Phaeron and Lorgar sat one night The skies were clear, the stars were bright The wind was soft, the moon was up. Phaeron drained his coco cup. He licked his lips he felt sublime. He switched off Emperors's Question Time. Lorgar cringed in fear and dread as Phaeron clasped his hand and said: Let's Chaos, let's Chaos, Chaos while the Warp is right. I'm feeling, heretical, I've really got an appetite. I'm on fire with desire. I could mindfuck half the Astropaths in the Telepathca. Let's Chaos, let's Chaos tonight. But then Lorgar said: I can't do it, I can't do it, I believe to strong in Daddy Emps. This passion to de-faction turns us into spiky plebs. No derision, My decision, I'd rather watch the building of my daddy's vision. I can't Chaos, I can't Chaos tonight.
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>>52736910
How did you highlight the black?
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>>52738274
>image
Actually, I can't think of a single occasion that the alpha legion pretended to be night lords. They've got SOME standards, don'tyaknow.
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>>52738195
I didn't say it would look good, just that it's easy to paint at a basic standard.

On the topic of edge highlighting black : I've started using a beige like bleached bone rather than grey or white for that. Takes a little practice with how much paint it needs on the brush (very little) but then it's more easy to apply than white or grey, and generally looks very decent.
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>>52737977
FW said they were putting them out before angelos
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>>52738022
I'll be pumping out some BA soon. Not going so fast right now, but I'll probably be speeding up the closer we get to Angelus.
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>>52738530
A fellow BAfag?!
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>>52738565
A rare commodity, I know. What company are you doing? Fifth for me.
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>>52738328
Looks like Dark Reaper and Admin Grey.
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>>52738275
Great kek and patrician taste anon

>>52733779
Check 'em
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>>52738232
Don't give up anon
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>>52738347
You just haven't figured it out yet.
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>>52738019
>primarch with a bolter and chainsword
You mean best Primarch, until he was driven half mad by 15/18 Primarch betraying the Emperor.
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>>52738274
>trying to unmask an alpha legionnaire
They just pile on the helmets.
>>52738275
Kek
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>>52738019
I hope the model comes with his lighting claw instead of just two normal hands.
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>>52738809
I wouldn't say Dorn is the best, but he's in the top 3 with the other loyalist primarchs at Terra.
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>>52738726
I'll try to scrounge something up, snek.
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>>52738889
He's vanilla at it's finest.
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>>52738275
Good start, but the rhyming fucked up.

Let's Chaos, let's Chaos, Chaos while the Warp is right.
I'm ready to sell, a heretical
Faith - I've got an appetite.
I'm on fire
with desire.
I could mindfuck half the Astropaths in the Telepathica Choir.
Let's Chaos, let's Chaos tonight.

But then Lorgar said:
I can't do it, I can't do it, I believe too strong in Daddy Emps.
A rejection to defection
Stops us being spiky plebs.
No derision
My decision
I'd rather watch the building of my daddy's vision.
I can't Chaos, I can't Chaos tonight.
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>>52739027
You do that, best of luck anon.
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>>52739167
You didn't plan your filenames very well in advance, did you anon.
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>>52739200
Just Alpha Legion misdirection I bet, don't pay too close attention to it.
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>>52739167
Thanks, Snek.
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>>52739200
Or did I?
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>>52739245
It's the SLA. Where are they hiding Patty Hearst?
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Are there any specialist games that have rules converted for HH, like Epic 30k or Battlefleet Terra?
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>>52739455
The original Titanicus was set in the Horus Heresy, Im not sure how it would differ from just a normal specialist game considering its just a re-skin. Im like 90% sure the dudes that have those Epic HH models use the fanmade Epic Armageddon rules set.
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>>52739526
NuTitanicus will also be set in the Heresy.
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>>52739455
>BFG white scars
All ships are 20% faster.
>BFG space wolves
Better boarding actions, but every ship must attempt to set up a boarding action every turn, unless facing alpha legion in which case all ships must disengage from the battle as soon as possible.
>BFG world eaters
As space wolves, but without the alpha legion bit. Ships may also take ursus claws.
>BFG iron warriors
25% of your fleet becomes the property of the imperial fists player.
>BFG word bearers
Fucking pay2win seriously how are those giant ships balanced what the fuck man this is bullshit.
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>>52739657
>unless facing alpha legion in which case all ships must disengage from the battle as soon as possible
Kek
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>>52739455

You can convert BFG to 30k pretty easily since it's hard to make imperial ships/space marine ships all that different to their current stats without making a bunch of special rules.

That works to our favor as BFG battles can be done with current stats pretty easily and custom ship classes could be easily added
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>>52736888
>I know, let's paint our armor like the organization famous for betraying and murdering the emperors they were sworn to protect
>good idea brother, that will surely demonstrate our loyalty
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>>52736888
Sure, those guys look trustworthy.
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Any list advice for trying to build all assault EC list including Fulgrim ?
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>>52739928
Maku Skara, some Phoenix Guard and Palatines along with Assault Squads and Jetbikes. Hit hard and hit fast.
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>>52739928
Palatines with jump packs and Eidolon seems legit on paper, with sonic shriekers ofc.
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>>52737735
Why does this sound like the literal same other anons.
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>>52734246
>So I do I need secutarii to be good?
No, however the general opinion is that whenever possible you should take peltrasts because they are the best unit ever with the sole possible exception of 3ed Arbiters.
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Long weekend here in Aus, what have you got done so far Anons? Played any games? I got to blend some wolves with my Malagra Arch Magos, god damn is he hilarious in combat.
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I dunno how practical it would be, but I would love a campaign with Diplomacy map rules so it's set in early heresy and alliances are shifty each game round.
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>>52740173
Sneak Magos is yours? Can we have so.e pics?
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>>52740173
Is that a Necron Canoptek Acranthite holding a Guardian Spear with a GW Dominus head? He looks great, man. Maybe I'll steal that to make my subsidiary Domini for Scoria.

How'd the Secutarii do in CC? Burn anything interesting with Haywire?

Personally I've been sitting here working and building my first Imperial Knight ready for magnets, the Dominus Acies.
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>>52740173
A snek magos?
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>>52739560

>Nu Titanicus is guaranteed Xenos-free

Lame and gay.
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>>52740173
>dat magos
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>>52740351
30k in general is xenos free. What the hell are you complaining about?
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>>52740268
>>52740309
>>52740320

Snek Malagra Magos is heavily a WIP, I have been running him with a jump pack so its also a flying Snek! The securarii are a bunch of hardy little bastards, they are a deadly tarpit in CC and hilarious at shooting the shit out of anything with armor, really happy I got some.
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>>52740413
This is now the snek edition.
>a flying cybernetic snake man
Only in the Mechcanicum.
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>>52740390
Wasn't the original Titanicus Xeno free too?
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>>52740509
Initially, yes. They they added Ork Gargants into it as well.
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>>52740513
So yeah it's nothing to whine about.
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That's it. I'm sick of all this "Masterwork Phoenix Power Spear" bullshit that's going on in the 30k system right now. Guardian spears deserve much better than that. Much, much better than that.

I should know what I'm talking about. I myself commissioned a set of 'genuine' guardian spears in China for 20 Yuan (that's about $3) and have been practicing with them for almost 2 years now. I can even cut slabs of solid greenstuff with my spears.

Terran smiths spend years working on a single guardian spear and fold it up to a million times to produce the finest blades known to mankind.

Guardian spears are thrice as sharp as Astartes swords and thrice as hard for that matter too. Anything a power sword can cut through, a guardian spear can cut through better. I'm pretty sure a guardian spear could easily bisect a marine wearing full cataphractii plate with a simple vertical slash.

Ever wonder why the xenos never bothered conquering Terra? That's right, they were too scared to fight the disciplined Custodes and their guardian spears of destruction. Even in the Unification Wars, techno-barbarians targeted the Custodes first because their killing power was feared and respected.

So what am I saying? Guardian spears are simply the best weapon that the world has ever seen, and thus, require better stats in the 30k system. Here is the stat block I propose for guardian spears:

(Melee) S+5/+2, AP 1/2, Master-crafted, Armourbane, Rampage (always active because Custodes fight as individuals), Shred
(Ranged) S6, AP3, Assault 3, Master-crafted

Now that seems a lot more representative of the cutting power of guardian spears in real life, don't you think?

tl;dr = Guardian spears need to do more damage in 30k, see my new stat block.
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>>52740413
Where's the tail fro? I see GW dominus but nothing else.
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>>52740611
It's been a while since I seen this copypasta.
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>>52740098
How come?
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>>52740173
Got two or three games coming up tomorrow in our little escalation league. First one is against Thousand Sons, the second one will be against Alpha Legion. The third game is unclear as of now, since the guy may or may not make it.
500pts, 1 HQ + 1 Troop. Looking forward to it, it'll be the first time I bring my Custodes to the field.
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>>52740660
Oh god what.

So 6 Custodes and a Shield Captain?
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>>52740636
Because they're Arbites, and therefore rock.
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>>52740620
Necron wraith tail, GW magos chest and head, grey knight blade on the magos staff, usarax claw, and assorted bits
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>>52740620
Necron snek or Tomb king snek
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>>52740798
Only a minor bit of critisim here, but I would have replaced the blade at the end of the tail with something else. Either a gun or some sort of servo arm or something.
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>>52740686
Only the stuff in the pic. Didn't have time to paint any more. It's hardly ideal, I know.
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>>52740887
Shield Captain with a Solerite Gauntlet, Praesidium Shield, and Cyber Familiar will help. Just beef him the fuck up and give the regular guys Melta Bombs
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What's the consensus on using Rubric Marines for 1KS? I was considering them for sergeants or artificer plate.
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>>52740998
I dunno, all artwork of Thousand Sons up to the climax of the Battle of Prospero has them in quite plain, standard and unadorned armour.

I mean even 30k Ahriman's armour isn't that ornamental.
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>>52740998
Scarab occult models as Sekmet terminators makes sense, but mark 3 and 4 for regular dudes
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>>52741084
>>52741139
You're both right of course, I just feel like it's a shame not use such a pretty kit. I want an excuse to buy them.
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>>52738578
Not that anon, but I'm doing 3rd Company. Almost have enough tacs for a whole company anyway
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>>52741185
I'm thinking of getting some to run as veterans.
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>>52741185
Judging by this artwork you're gonna need them for the next black book that features Thousand Sons FW makes.
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>>52741185
Buy it and use it to kit bash it with Mk IV or something, there's nothing too jarring in that kit.
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>>52741285
I'm pretty sure that pic has been retconned. Don't they only get blue armor after the Heresy?
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>>52741285
I'm surprised no one has tried to make a meme pic out of this. Maybe a new general OP image could be good.
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>>52741185
I use the bits for honour guard and characters.
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>>52740693
I mean Peltasts being the best unit
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>>52741338
Well retconns be damned, this is one of the most awesome pieces of HH artwork out there. If Laurie Goulding went in and retconned shit just to spite it he can die in a fire.
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>>52741285
What's with the 4-armed snake daemon, and if it's fulgrim, why is there a fulgrim looking guy right next to him.
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>>52741429
That's the chick that introduced Lorgar to the finer points of Chaos worship ! Can't you recognise her ? It's a big thing in First Heretic.
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>>52741285
Also some of the older art of TS characters had them in the 40k styled armor.
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>>52740636
>>52741401
For their cost peltasts are absurdly good, they effectively have 3 guns:
24" 2/4 salvo S2 shread
30" S4 Ap3 rend
18" S3 AP5 3 inch blast bling ignores LoS.

They can shroud a unit one per game at 18 inches, can effectively have BS5 and snapshot at BS2, have a power field that reduces the S of attacks by 1 and can reroll saves of 12

Fully upgraded with the 30" AP 3 option they only cost 14 points and come in blobs of 20
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Which book is Malcador Infernus from? IA?
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>>52741855
Should be in IA 1 2nd edition.
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>>52741855
Crusade Imperialis Armylists.
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>>52741878
Damn, too bad it has to come via Allied SA :(
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>>52741948
It doesn't. It is in the Legions list of Lords of War they're allowed, and Mechanicum can take anything ranging from chaos helldrakes to Tau Mantas.
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>>52741980
Well, it isn't included in the LA army lit, QK army list, or the optional Super-Heavy list IIRC
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How unforgivable is it to use Cataphractii in a Raven Guard army?
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>>52742087
I thought Malcador and Macharius are different things. Was Macharius called Malcador in 30k or something?
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>>52742091
Who gives a fuck?
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>>52742091
Hammer and Anvil is a classic tacticool move. And, hey, for all those hammers RG get you'll need a hell of an anvil.

IIRC there's some cool fluff bits about their termies somewhere in HH, some fags got triggered but it was breddy gud. For me, so long as it's well-painted and you've got fluff justification it's cool with me
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>>52742091
That's a ree from me
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>>52742091
All legions at least had the majority of things there is in the legion armylist. Ravenguard might not have used Cataphractii a whole lot, but they most certainly have used it.

>>52742652
But you REEE at everything so that's not a suprise.
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>>52742091
Use them to get Land Raiders as a DT instead of an HS choice so you can fuck with people who think that you've only got snipervets and assault squads to worry about.
>>52742629
That fluff is dammed good, anyone who says otherwise can eat a Ravens Talons termie squad.
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>>52741185
My vets are Rubric torsos, arms and tabards with Mk.IV legs+backpacks, Achean pads and TS legion upgrade heads.
It looks very TS, but the non-uniformity of the overall look lessens the 'HH'-ness somewhat. Works for Vets I think, I don't plan to use Rubric bits on any other unit other than the odd Sgt or character here or there.
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>>52740413
>Snek-like being
>Dat pose
>Has the secrets of knowledge and technology
>Flyes
>Comes heralded by snek-posting
Is that really you?
>>52740465
>>a flying cybernetic snake man
>Only in the Mechcanicum.
Silly Anon, they don't have the monopolio. They never did.
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>>52742830
Talking about sneks, what is everybody's experience with putting together a Fire Raptor ? Really like the way they look, but with my own experience with FW casts so far and the horror stories from everybody I know that has put one together I'm not sure it's worth the hassle.
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If Hideo Kojima rewrote the entire Horus Heresy novel series, would anyone like it?
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>>52743265
Imagine the amount of Alpha Legion jerking that would happen.
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>>52739560
NuTitanicus is just Titanicus- the money grabbing. "No no we SWEAR we are doing 8mm so the INFANTRY look better!" 6 months later- "no infantry or tanks for the first five or so years". "Then why say that's why it's in 8mm?" "...."
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>>52742629
>>52742764
Sounds good. Thanks guys.
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>>52743265
>BL is an incredibly long and cringy story you cannot skip to the ONLY part you're interested in, while making a mockery of the laws of physics.
It wouldn't be as different as you think it would be.
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>>52743307
I wonder how easy it would be to just use the old scale models with the upcoming version of Titanicus.
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Is it fluff safe to use bits like the backpacks from the BA tactical box on my MKIVs? I'm avoiding the ones with purity seals but I'd like some iconography.
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Why didn't Horus ram Luna into Terra? Why didn't Horus just fling Iron Warrior ships into the imperial palace? Why didn't Horus set his ship to self destruct after luring the Emperor on his flagship? Why does the Alpha Legion suck?
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>>52743422
Because traitors are retarded.
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>>52743422
Why didn't the Emperor just teleport a nuke onto the Vengeful Spirit after it lowered its shields?
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>>52743523
The Emperor himself teleported onto the Vengeful Spirit and STILL the Gods managed to split his forces across the ship, if he teleports anything else the gods might as well shove it up their ass in hell and render it useless.
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>>52743422
>Implying it is hard to see a moon coming in and sending a nuke or all the anti orbital weaponry on and over Terra at it.

Well considering that big E was deep underground with his ass glued to the golden throne to keep suprise backdoor daemons out, I doubt crashing spaceships into the palace would have helped a whole lot besides making it even more complicated to get to the Emperor.

Setting his ship to self destruct is something only AL does, Horus very much intended to survive the ordeal and rule humanity in person.

And AL might appear to not aid the traitor case that greatly, but remember that for their plan to eradicate Chaos Horus had to win, but not too easily. They probably thought everything was going fine and setting up for what came after Horus becoming ruler of humanity.
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Am i the only one utterly baffled by the game logic of galvanic casters?
>Humans, use the flechettes
>Power armored troops? Use the armor piercing round
>oh shit terminators, ditch the armor piercing ammo and go back to the darts!
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>>52743822
The thing is if a type of armour can resist a certain type of armour piercing round, that type of round is not armour piercing in that case.

But darts being better is just game mechanics. Just like how it's more easy to kill vehicles by repeatedly scartching their paint rather than firing a shot that actually punches through the armour.
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>>52743393
You can play Titanicus with 28mm models. I'd say it would be easy to scale it up or now.
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>>52743422

Horus is all about strategic caution. It was Big E who was the ultimate strategic gambler. Horus' march was so ponderous that it confused the Imperium into believing that Horus was just consolidating domains around Istvaan for a rival pocket empire.

Horus also placed such importance on securing his holdings and supply lines that he sacrificed a great many subordinates and promising commanders to fight the rearguard loyalists. He wanted to get the win percentage for the Siege of Terra as high as possible before he proceeded forward.

Of course, the real issue at the Siege of Terra was at least half of the traitor legions either were not present or absconded their duties after the initial siege to fuck around Terra.
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>>52743879
The fact that a non armor piercing multilaser is twice as lethal to a space marine than a armor piercing heavy bolter is just moronic, as is the fact that the heavy bolter is equally effective against power armor and terminators.
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>>52734323
>pics pls

No can do anon, they're all packed now and I'm moving. But I assure you, they look like shit.
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>>52739835
To be fair, they were kind of fuckheads.
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>>52742830
Snek Magos imparted his wisdom of radiation, chopping things up and absorbing a fully decked out wolf squads attacks with sexy armor. They then fled and were run down like the dogs they are.
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>>52744340
But armour penetration when viewed on an individual round basis is just as binaric as 40k's current AP system : it either has the capability to punch straight through, or it does not.

If it doesn't, then rate of fire, and how likely it causes serious injury if it goes through a weak spot can be a factor. Should a heavy bolter do more damage than a multilaser when it does go through power armour ? Maybe, but GW disagrees, and that's why multilasers have the higher Str.

>In reality lasers are actually better at cutting through armour than causing deep, lethal wounds but that's another matter.
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>>52740413
Man, for a second I thought his power fist was giving the thumbs up.
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>>52744528
But that comparison doesn't work since a multilaser is better at penetrating tank armor. So somehow materials gain completely different properties and laws of physics depending on what it is protecting.
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>>52743422
Aw come on man the Alpha Legion didnt even bother to show up to the siege why do you have to be like that?
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Are malcador tanks heavy support or low? I see it listed as HS but I was told otherwise.
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>>52743422

Horus wanted to conquer Terra not destroy it.
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>>52745170
They are Heavy Support and come in squadrons and Im pretty sure you can take up to two of any Malcador variant in the LoW slot so a legion could potentially bring in 11 Malcadors.
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Looking at HH vs. 40k the "your dudes" part feels weird.

Like, you pick your Legion and make your army, but if you pick loyalist your dudes have been dead for 9000+ years now and no matter what happens Horus loses and Emps gets interred on the throne.

I guess chaos you forge a narrative where they live into 40k, so that's cool.

But if you pick IF for example how do you make them feel like your dudes? And how do you make them relevant?
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>>52745316
I don't understand the question. You make them feel like your dudes the same way you do in any oher game. Only a few marines per legion out of tens of thousands are defined. You're free to do whatever. Who cares if they're all dead by M41 if the game is set in M31?
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>>52745316
Channel your inner military history nerd and work out service history and notable actions of your company/host/chapter/whatever. Your Dudes aren't just using a Praetor in their HQ slot, they are led by the wise and mighty High Marshall Cestus. Survivor of the Radghastian xenosides and veteran of the solar compliance, awarded his present rank in the wake of the triumph at ullanor, and one of the first of the VIIth legion to have the whole of his company issued with the Mk VI suits taken in their first and only action on martian soil.
>>52745429
yeah what he said
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>>52745316
You tell a story for your dudes, maybe they all die and become dreadnoughts, maybe they become heroes and found their own chapter or maybe they are just forgotten.
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I asked in the 40k thread, but here might be better.

Everyone calls Lorgar the worst primarch, but what about Curze? Did Konrad actually do anything of note besides fail at everything? According to the lexi/wiki, he beat the shit out of Dorn and made Vulkan insane.
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>>52745640
>fail at everything

Not being a failure at everything, unlike Lorgar Kurze did his job well, he terrorized one planet and entire systems would surrender at the mere mention of his legion.
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>>52745682
but Kurze was autistic
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>>52745713

They're all autistic
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>>52745797
They're just poorly written because BL is mostly hacks.
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>>52745797
Traitors and Dorn are autistic.
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>>52744441
I was going to say "mech cant sweep" but appearently their HQ's can... thallax plz, ursarax plz....
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After months and months of being indecisive, I think I'm finally going with loyalist Emperor's Children for my army. The only thing I'm stuck on is Tarvitz, what would be a good model for him?
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>>52745839
Where does the Dorn is autistic meme come from? I'm not saying I disagree but he seemed pretty reasonable in Praetorian of Dorn.
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Anyone tried converting Neophyte Hybrids into Servitors / Tech thralls? Their mining suits seems fitting, but those damn Genestealer symbols looks pain in the ass to deal with.
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Do thunder warriors have rules?
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>>52745316

Do you feel weird reading about people who have been dead for a thousand years?
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>>52745713
Perturbo is autistic. Kurze was more like dissociative multiple personality via complex post-traumatic stress.

Difference is, Kurze might have been mostly functional except his daddy didnt care enough to stop the stranger stealing him from his crib, so he got forced into the stranger's psychedelic hippie van for a while and eventually woke up in some space ghetto dumpster near hobo alley. From then on all he encountered was evil and torture, but thankfully, he turned out to be this TOTALLY REAL supernatural embodiment of DEFINITELY IMMANENT vengeance and punishment that always went around DELIVERING JUSTICE just when he thought he couldn't feel any more small or scared.
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>>52736910
Goddamn that's good. I'd say the highlighting's working fine, but sure, I can see a fleshy ochre being a good idea.
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alright nerds, reductor magos conversion, I have 2 equally cool ideas
1.regular sized magos wired into a quadrupedal abeyant bristling with mechadendrites and weapons
2. 2swole2control magos, probably based off the domitar kit with ragged robes, a huge saw for one hand and a rotary plasma weapon for the other arm, with servo automata carapaces being his forearms/weapon mounts
which one sounds better to you nerds?
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>>52746817
>2swole2control
Easy winner, cables n shit might be a solid style but its been done plenty of times before.
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>>52746616
Only when I think about having sex with them.
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>>52736821
>>52737086
Eh... the current version of the Legiones Astartes army list doesn't seem to allow it. It gives you a bunch of Lord of War choices, and the relevant one, War Machine Detachment (1-2 Super-heavies with 8 or fewer hull points), only allows the following:
>Super-heavy from your primary detachment's list
>An entry from the Questoris Knights army list found in the Crusade Imperialis army list (so, knights that aren't Mechanicum-only)
>One of the Super-heavies from the list on page 10, which, excluding 9+ hull point vehicles, only lets you take the Macharius, CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT (it's a meme, don't ask), Thunderbolt and Avenger fighters, and the Minotaur.

No Malcador Infernus.
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>>52745316
I don't think there's anything unusual about painting up a Roman legion and making up adventures for them. We don't have documents accounting for what every unit did, and that applies to HH too. FW's gone out of its way to keep things vague and let us make up a lot of stories - though yes, under stricter limits than you get in 40k. (Unless you're playing Tau - they have a narrow time window and area in the galaxy where it makes sense for a Tau army to be.)

I could say that my White Scars brotherhood was at Chondax with most of the legion and stayed within reach of the main fleet (so I can justify using the primarch if he's ever released) while they were stuck behind the Ruinstorm for four years raiding and delaying the Traitors. Then they make it back to Terra and take back the Lion's Gate spaceport alongside the 1st Terran Tank Regiment during the Siege. The survivors then join the Scouring, after which they might get squeezed off into a successor chapter. That's more scope than I'll ever need.
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>>52743422
>Why didn't Horus ram Luna into Terra?
Never mind the stupid Bodt story, the energy required to redirect a body as large as the moon would be so tremendous that if you had it available to you, you'd be invincible anyway. And Horus would probably be using the Warp to get that much energy, in which case the Emperor would be able to counter.

>Why didn't Horus just fling Iron Warrior ships into the imperial palace?
Most planetary invasions in the 40k universe are written as requiring the invaders to land far away from the defensive hardpoints because of the macrocannons protected by void shields there. The ships would be destroyed en route. The atmosphere would probably do most of the work.

>Why didn't Horus set his ship to self destruct after luring the Emperor on his flagship?
He thought he would win.

>Why does the Alpha Legion suck?
They haven't agreed on a goal.
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>>52736910
>>52736932
Man I'm jelly of you and your painting skills. I have your Red Talons saved, my objective is to paint like you, simple (I think/hope) but flawless.
Did you just use the standard GW technique, basecoat, wash, highlight?
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>>52746200
I'm planning on doing that for my Servitor/Bond-slaves for my Reductor, judging by the local GSC player's models they're really not covered in them, just a couple icons in discreet places so you can model a cult that isn't going full uprising yet. I suspect you'd be fine with a cybernetic head and maybe an arm or backpack.
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If I go the metallic + Clear Red for my Thousand Sons how do I edge highlight them? I've seen silver but it's far to stark unless used sparingly I thinks it's most effective for extreme highlights only. What can I use for everything else?
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>>52747606
Personally I think pre-highlighting and shading might be the best way to go.
ie. Your base is a slightly darker silver, which you highlight with a really bright silver, then a couple of thin coats of clear red over the top.
You should still be able to see the highlights.
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>>52747606
Eh, you don't want to do that. The clear red itselt is supposed to give the shine.

Wherever it needs to be bright, apply the clear red on top again. the sheen alone should be the highlight
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>>52747606
What >>52747648 said. A single shade and single highlight will be plenty.
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>>52746817
Have a look at the Warmachine line of Celephax for inspiration/models for your 2Swole dude
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>>52746947
For some reason I thought it was "Malcador and variants", rather than or as well as "Macharius and variants" - seems kind of odd that of all the tanks you can't actually take variants of it'd be the Malcador, a vehicle known to be around at the time.

Kind of tempted to email and ask, though usually it'd probably best just be resolved by using allies or a friendly agreement
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>>52747845
They made a decision to give the normal Malcador to the legions list and not the Infernus. Fair enough, I think a lot of people would have a problem with it unless they made some changes.

By "and variants" I think they just mean the same vehicle with different weapons, like the Macharius Vulcan or Vanquisher. I say that because the Crassus is listed separately and it's on the Macharius chassis. So FW doesn't consider the Infernus to just be a variant of the Malcador.
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>>52747892
I'm often confused at what is/isn't a variant with the Malcador - you've got the Valdor, Dracosan and Minotaur, which are Malcador chassis but named differently, you've got the Infernus, which is named the same but is at least as different as a Valdor, then you've got a variant that you can have in the profile, the Annihilator (battle cannons -> lascannons) and a (shit) one you can't have at all.

And if the mechanicum can't take them (I don't know if their version of the rule got dropped) then no-one can take all the variants - the SA get closest, but don't have a Minotaur (or a defender, but no-one cares)
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Why is Thousand Sons such a popular legion?
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>>52746817
2SWOLE2CONTROL
For centuries, I have studied the gainz. I lived gainz. Breathed gainz. You Astartes have merely adapted to the gainz. I never knew life outside a gym until I was a man.
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>>52748132
>Cool theme, Space Wizards/Ancient Egypt
>Tragic Backstory
>Good colour scheme
>Have been almost unplayable in 40k for years outside very specific builds (that hardly contain any actual Thousand Sons)
>Primarch that did nothing wrong

That and I think Space Wolf players are the worst members of the fanbase alongside Orkfags.
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>>52748132
Small model count, cheesier than the Cheddar Valley, "muh magnus" lore and long-time fans, the big wait we've had for them, and the colour scheme is okay too
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>>52748236
>>52748246
I play TS but how can anyone unironically like Magnus? His whole character consists of being an arrogant prick who fucks over everyone he loves.
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>>52748246
>cheesier than the Cheddar Valley
Oh leave off. Magnus and COTCK are bullshit and that's it. Try actually writing a list with asphyx shells everywhere and brotherhood of psykers on every squad and you'll see how fast you run out of points.
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>>52748294
>I identify with him.
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>>52748132
They've always been one of the four cult legions in 40k. They've had a large number of fans for decades because of that.
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>Our Warhammer Fest event in Coventry at the end of May will be the first place in the world your can get your hands on the next Horus Heresy Primarch.

>The rest of you will need to wait a little longer to order one, but he will be available for all later this year.
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>>52748535
Fuuuuuuck he looks really cool
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>>52748535
That is a really cool pose, very nice indeed.
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>>52748535
Dorn/Alpha a bit pissed, and no nipple horns, but damn, looks pretty good
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>>52748535
Who else /cuttingoffthelamefirerocks/ here?
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>>52748535
No nipple horns! To be fair they kinda looked wonky anyway.
Base is cool.
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>>52748535

What the fuck is wrong with his proportions?
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>>52748614
Those are probably easy enough to leave off, so you can simply choose to use them or not.
They'd need some pretty delicate pinning anyway.
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>>52748535
looks great but urghhh I can imagine a 80 pound price tag.
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>>52748619
I think the proportions of his body aren't too far off, but the volume of his armour and cloak distort his outline a fair bit.
That could simply be an effect of the angle of the photo though.
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WTF is with his waist line? His chest is totally off in proportions compared to his thighs... wtf is this
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>>52748535
if you put your fingers over his arms he looks fine. But if you don't he looks weird.
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>>52735261
Fuuuuuck I love these.
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>>52748664

Nah his waist is also a little too long.

Really they should never have made the Primarchs not in the same heroic scale style proportions as everyone else in the first place. It looks weird to have one guy with human proportions towering over a bunch of guys in standard space marine model proportions.
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>>52746780

What? Drop this shitty metaphor nigga, youre speaking gibberish
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>>52748709
Simply put, Anon means to say that Kurze went full Batman, but not in a good way.
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help me out with a 2.5k drop assault EC, will something like this ever be competitive?

Eidolon+jumppack
medicae+jumppack

3 x apoth+jumppack

assault squad
assault squad
assault squad
assault squad

fulgrim + kharyb
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Ok I have a weird question.

Which Sisters of Silence are silver colored? Is that just Oblivion Knights and the Centura?

I know others are gold but I keep seeing the occasional silver one.
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>>52748132
>why is nerd legion popular among nerds

Gee anon, you tell me.
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>>52748535
He looks too lithe imo.
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>>52748823
you add in a dread drop pod to provide cover saves for your assault squads broseph, doesn't have to be a levi, just want that sweet sweet shrouded.
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>2,000 under Sentor Rahme of the Ninth Fellowship were slaughtered in their encampments by the Ultramarines attached to the same force
wtf I hate smurfs now
that seemed pretty extreme
>>
>you cannot give meltabombs to just the sergeant in a veteran tactical squad
Whyyyyyyyyy.
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>>52749014
Now you understand
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Why didn't the Emperor's Children change their name to like Horus's Children or something?
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>>52749105
They thought their name was even funnier when they became traitor
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Has anyone got the teaser picture of Magnus painted from a month or so ago?
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>>52749105
Because they think it's funny.
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>>52748959
they already have snapshot cover turn 1 from row
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>>52749113
I gotchu senpai.
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I need help /hhg/,
I've been painting word bearers troops for the last five months and I think I have a good amount of them to buy some vehicles and a character. I am going to buy a spartan, some rhinos and maybe a couple of GW vindicators because those look cool af.
My question is, what character should I buy, Zardu Layak or Erebus and Kor Phaeron? I am not buying Lorgar right now because my painting skills wouldn't give him justice.
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Abaddon: We are now the Black Legion. Never mind that there are already three black marine legions.
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>>52749145
Zardu Layak. He has the best hat, and that's the most important thing to consider.
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>>52749112
>>52749118

>Not changing to Horus's Children to piss off the Sons of Horus and troll their own side

Do you even Slaanesh?
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>>52749146
His armour was already black. Can you really expect him to repaint it? Do you know how expensive that is?
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>>52749145

Wait, Lorgar has a model?

Then why the fuck is one of the employees at my local GW converting a Lorgar out of the Celestant Prime?

I was already baffled that he was buying that shitty £50 glorified clampack character for it.
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>>52749152
Erebus with a mexican hat would be pretty cool too man and then I could develop my sculpting skills
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>>52749191
Mostly because the FW version of Lorgar looks a bit like a constipated old man.
It's not their best work, but it'll look a lot more appropriate, no matter how much you convert a Celestant.
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>>52749191
The guy at your lgs is stupid
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>>52748854
It goes by cadre, I think, not role.
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>>52749210
I like FW's Lorgar, they did a good job presenting him by the time of Istvaan V. Some conversion would be needed if you want him to take the look of the mad zealot witch he is in the Shadow crusade or a new model for Terra thought
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My stab at 2500 points of Thousand Sons
Trying for something a bit different than Sekhmet Terminator Spam

RoW: The Axis of Dissolution

HQ
Ahriman
225 pts

Master of Signals
Artificer Armour
105 pts

Master of Signals
Artificer Armour
105 pts

Elite
Apothecary x3
135 pts

Troops
Corvidae Tactical Squad x20
Additional Combat Blades
270 pts

Corvidae Tactical Squad x20
Additional Combat Blades
270 pts

Corvidae Tactical Squad x20
Additional Combat Blades
270 pts

Fast Attack
Outrider Squad x10
x3 Power Swords, Twin Linked Aether-Fire Cannon, Melta Bombs
370 pts

Heavy Support
Corvidae Heavy Support Squad x10
Missile Launchers, Augery Scanner, Flakk Missiles
330 pts

Corvidae Heavy Support Squad x10
Missile Launchers, Augery Scanner, Flakk Missiles
330 pts

Predator x3
225 pts

Total: 2500 pts

Ahriman goes with a tactical blob and the MoS go with the heavy support squad

Wasn't sure which lore would best suit the bikers
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>>52749242

Lorgar was always a mad zealot. The only detail you'd need to change on his model to cover any point from loyalist up until right before daemon prince is to take the 8 pointed star spikes off of his mace for early on.
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>>52734176
I painted my custards with a shiny silver/nickel sort of finish, gold details, black leather segments and crests. One or two have red cords or purity seals.

In my head they're meant to be semi-public in the area around the Imperial Palace, and their armor is actually mirrored to reflect the faces of Imperial citizenry who crowd around them.
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>>52749256
He has lots of doubts between Monarchia and his fight with Corax and I think that's well portrayed in his miniature. After that happened everyone says he has changed, his psychic powers are fully released and he starts to hear the song of the warp (he goes absolutely insane)
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>>52748535
His legs look too short for his body.

Also, STILL no Rogal Dorn... it's gettig a bit ridiculous now.
>>
I'd like to make a model of Lucius, wielding Tyranid scything talon/bonesword to represent him on Murder (Megarachnids thing)

Problem is that I can't find a suitable hand bits. I mean it has to look like grabbing something thick as an insectoid's leg. Not even a standard/banner hand would be good enough I'm afraid.

Have anyone seen a suitable bits?
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>>52749285
Why would they release Rogal Dorn with inferno anon?
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>>52749288
Maybe use a rocket launcher open hand + some green stuff?
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>>52749291
I'm not saying they should have released him with inferno, but his rules have been out now for fucking ages and he still has no model, yet magnus has both his rules and model released in a matter of months.
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>>52749253
I know you said you didnt wanna use Sekhmet, but a group of ten with two chainfifts to replace those bikers would make an excellent addition to your gunline to counter those nasty dreads/melee units as well as a great meatshield for ahriman

besides, one unit doesnt equal spam :^)
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>>52749242
I don't think they captured his charisma at all with that pose or facial expression.
0/10 would not be driven to genocide by
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>>52748535
What's with the exposed arms?
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>>52749253
How do your outriders have aether-fire cannons? Why would you give your outriders aether-fire cannons even if they could take them?

Also, I don't think you've got enough stuff that can crack open AV14, and you have literally nothing that can scratch a flare-shielded spartan.
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>>52749318
Magnus always had exposed arms, even in the old artwork.
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>>52748535
Is it just me or does Magnus skip leg day? He's got an enormous Primarch torso and little pencil thighs.
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>>52749253
It's a shame that something a bit different from Termies is a Signals-Blob-Gunline list. Not a dig at you, just an observation. The cult powers make this more interesting than a vanilla list.

For bikers I guess you'd go for the hammer of wrath attack or increased save. Though desu I'd drop them and add something actually Thousand Sons to your army, you could juggle some points around and get a Blade cult (or even your not-wanted Termie squad) inna transport.
Your bikes stand out as odd in a list that's built around a zillion guys not moving and throwing out Divination bolter attacks. You need something killy.
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>>52744983
Honestly, armour and toughness should be rolled into one stat a la LotR, and armour penetration should just be a rule like "always wounds at least on a 5+"
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>>52749313
I can see what you mean, plus the termies do look kinda cool, ill do that then

>>52749322
If I swap out one heavy support + MoS and replace it with a sicaran, sould that be enough dakka?

>>52749352
Its very difficult to incorperate transports as the max squad size limitation kinda forces you into a gunline army
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How many points would you put a Thunderhawk at? I think 500 would be nice, as it provides a nice contrast to Baneblade-Equivalents in having less staying power but more mobility, provided the flyer rules ever get reworked to not be a binary clusterfuck.
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>>52749318
I know, right? It's totally unprecedented
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>>52748535
> Everyones complaining about proportions, forgetting that the angle and pose make a forced perspective of shorter arms and longer legs

I swear this happens on every Primarch release
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>>52748535
I'm not liking the pose and composition.
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>>52749318
Everyone knows wizards can't wear heavy armour, and since Magnus' wizards with his arms he can't wear armour there.
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>>52748535
So he's 3/2 times as tall as Angron right?
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>>52749318
To highlight that his skin is red.
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>>52748535
>No nipple horns

fuck this gay earth
>>
>>52749337
>>52749438
Yes, and I repeat, why the exposed arms? I highly doubt he was do brawny that they couldn't find a power shit in his size.
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>>52749500
But he's got knee nipples. Kneepples.
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>>52749501
To show off his gains.
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>>52749507
Do they eventually migrate up to his chest depending on how much warp shit he does?
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>>52749513
>>
So is the real question now who will get a model first, Sang and Lion or Dorn and alphy?
>>
>>52749541
I imagine that will depend on how quickly they can get the next black book done. If it's not delayed, then I wouldn't be surprised if the Lion and the Angel get theirs first, as much as I dislike not having a representation of Alpharius in his full regalia.
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>>52749529
I'm going to say yes.
>>
>>52749541
Sanguinius before Lion before Alpharius before Dorn

They'll do the angels for Angelus and Dorn will be last because he sat on Terra the whole Heresy.
>>
best anti tank options for assault based EC ?
>>
Honestly I haven't really been paying attention to how many Primarchs have models. We must be nearing about half of them by now right? 6 or 7?
>>
>>52749191
Because he's a tool factory that mistook a static pose for a bad sculpt.

>supposed to be the calm before the storm from the first heretic primarch
>alone on a mountain, as a man of thought
>>
>>52749602
vINDICATORS
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>>52749602
If you want to stick to a gottagofast theme, land speeders (either vanilla with grav, or javelins) can do a job.
>>
>>52749648
12 out of 18 have models.
Though I imagine some will be getting 2 eventually to represent changes wrought by the Heresy itself.
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>>52749786
>Though I imagine some will be getting 2 eventually to represent changes wrought by the Heresy itself.
Like what? I can't think of any. GW will be doing the Daemon Primarchs.
>>
Are they going to release separate models for the Daemon Primarchs or will they just sell bits boxes to modify the existing models?
>>
>>52749841
Has that been confirmed fully?
Lorgar transfigured would be one candidate for me, but I wouldn't be surprised to find FW doing Daemon Fulgrim, though he could end up in plastic I suppose.
Horus Unchained perhaps, ie. Final Form Horus.
>>
>>52749873

How different is Horus gonna be really? The art of him from the final confrontation basically just has a bunch of wires driven into his scalp and a repaint. And you could easily not bother with the wires, call it an artistic license.

Remaking Horus would be a waste of time, his model is already really good.
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>>52749910
true, but FW does what they want, and I wouldn't be surprised by such a move.
We will simply have to see.
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>>52749873
But anon, there already is a model for lorgar transfigured.
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>>52748535
>No nipple horns, most iconic part of Magnus' armour through the centuries
>Static 'this buttplug is mighty uncomfortable' pose

Well, guess I'll have a lot of money to spend on other things. Why has almost everything related to Inferno been such a huge disappiontment...
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>>52749438
>>52749337
>>52749318
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>>52748535
He looks great.
>>
>>52749541
My guess is that Sanguinius is next. Wonder how his model and rules will be.
>>
>>52750035
If I remember correctly FW already confirmed that Sanguinius is next on the last open day.

And that Rogal Dorn and Alpharius haven't even been planned in yet. It's just never going to happen is it.
>>
hey /tg/ these are my first space marines ever. I know the arm is off on the right one (first model completed, planning to fill it in with greenstuff when it comes in the mail). Please r8. Planning to do infantry heavy loyalist Iron Warriors.
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>>52750076
Forgot image.
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>>52743822
Maybe this will be fixed if Forge World adapt the profiles to 8th edition 40k.
>>
>>52749997
They're not bulky enough. He looks more like a cosplayer.
>>
>>52750086
>people put studs on right shoulder

I literally can't even.
>>
>>52750099
Maybe GW is actually making vastly more simple rules for 40k in the hopes that the FW rule writers can actually understand them.

Because things like +1 inch to sweeping advance distance are just a fucking joke. What is this, 7th edition warhammer fantasy ?
>>
>>52750086
I like the bumblebee beakies
>>
>>52749786

Twelve? That seems rather high.

And people are complaining about Primarchs not being done yet?
>>
>>52750116
Please explain, I thought legion badge goes on left shoulder.
>>
>>52750146
MkV and VI studs go on the left shoulder, because it's the shoulder facing the enemy and subject to incoming fire, thus needing the extra plating.

>"where does legion badge go?"

They don't have it, because studs.
>>
>>52750137
People are complaining about the primarchs that have had rules for them since book three that still haven't recieved models.
>>
>>52750137
Forgeworld's webstore doesn't exactly lie.
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/search/searchResults.jsp?qty=com.gamesworkshop.endeca.EndecaUserContext%406d22db86&sorting=&view=&Ntt=Primarch
12 Primarch models exist, with 6 still missing.
With Magnus, Sanguinius, Lion El'Johnson, Jaghatai Khan, Alpharius and Dorn not being available yet.
>>
>>52750179
I'm pretty sure there's nothing stopping them being on either shoulder even though left may be the norm.
>>
>>52750217
Nothing stops you from using Dark Vengeance DA either.
>>
>>52750179
Okay. I thought the studs were just to cover exposed wiring fluff wise. I'll swap them.
>>
>>52750201

I guess they're leaving Khan to last because his Primarch sized bike will make him the largest model, and thus the largest price point. Hoping completionists won't balk at his cost if they already own 17 primarchdonnas.
>>
>>52750234
Or from using stigmarines with terminator helmets riding unicorns as marines.
>>
>>52750246
Of you could just leave the studded pad off. I only mount studded pad on the left and for characters and such, I often use a fancy pad on the left with no studs. Seeing that after the heresy the MkVI studs were mostly ceremonial as a nod to the HH era suits, it's possible some pads could have been made from more resilient materials without needing extra plating.
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>>52750234
This pic seems to suggest that the badge can be moved to the right shoulder when studs occupy the left.
>>
>>52750249
Depending on if they do Sang in a flying pose with wings outstretched he might be the biggest
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>>52750305
Possible. I often see squad markings on the right and studs/legion marking on the left.
>>
Both Siggy and the IF command set have studs on the right. Neither are in mk v or vi so I'm nost sure how much that counts
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>>52750116
Get tae fuck.
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>>52750116
I put all my studs on the right shoulder because I want them to have legion symbols. Try and stop me
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When you guys are building you 'standard' Praetor (i.e. Paragon Blade, Digi Lasers, Iron Halo, ect.) do you tend to give him Artificer or Terminator armour?

Also there anything you do different to the established layout?
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>>52750379
SON OF A FUCKING BITCH

GOD FUCKING DAMN IT
>>
>>52750482
I hope those are resin ones anon
>>
>>52750525
Yeah why?
>>
Anyone making a new bread or should I do it again?
>>
>>52750561
do it bruh, before its too late!
>>
>>52750546
You would trigger my autism otherwise
>>
>>52750246
Inferno also has images of power armour with studded pauldrons on the right.
So I imagine it's all good, but purely from a modelling perspective, putting the studs on the left makes the most sense as it points the reinformed armour towards incoming fire.
>>
New player here, looking at getting into Heresy with Mechanicum because of the stupid sexy Tech-priests.
Everyone else seems to have a Primarch, I'm the only non-Marine player there apparently and in the four games I watched I saw seven Primarchs. I don't have one in my army list, obviously, is there feasible ways to stop or disable one without smashing it into another one for Admech? Other than bringing shit like Titans, obviously. Would a Knight do OK as a stopgap, or do I just have to run away from them like 40k Guilliman?
>>
Thanks for the critiques. I'm going to leave the studs on the left just becuase FW's corvus suits are on left studded.
>>
>>52750572
Coming up. No-one split the threads again while I'm summarising please.
>>
>>52750561
>>52750572
>>52750622
>all this drama
>thread only on page 7
Hmm.

>>52750614
There's a chap called Scoria. Look his rules up, and laugh.
>>
>>52750614
There's always the options to throw Skoria at them, who'll beat most primarchs to a pulp without to much trouble.
Otherwise, do not underestimate how good your larger automata are at keeping such units under control.
>>
>>52750614
As mechanicum you can always tie down a primarch by throwin a blob of fearless tech-thralls at it. There is no primarch that can slaughter his way through 20 dudes before the battle is basically over.
>>
>>52750703
hahah what utter bullshit. at keast half of the primarchs will kill this in two turns.
>>
>>52750703
Could vulkan maybe do it with his hammer-stomp attack?
>>
>>52750732
Corax and Dorn too.
>>
Slightly early cautious new bread:

>>52750863
>>52750863
>>52750863
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>>52750803
corax can literally hit-and-run, then swoop away into ongoing resrves

if you get corax bogged down, your are failing him worse than he failed the emperor
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>>52750478
>Also there anything you do different to the established layout?
I use a Legatine Axe/Plasma Pistol.
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>>52749318
Bitches be mirin his unnatural gains
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