Warhammer 40,000 General Thread /40kg/

I wish there was a way for me to actually play instead of just painting and collecting models alone forever

here's a game to start the thread /tg/

describe the faction you play with "muh [blank]"

ill start with guard:
>muh ordinary humans

>>52700985
Find a game store?

When will the Imperium find Samus Aran, the lost primarch?

>>52700990
>muh space egyptians

>>52700990
>muh magic humuns

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nth for necrontyr were Egyptians and thus black

>>52700985

no geek stores by you?

When I moved to a new city, I put some of my models up for sale on craigslist. The first person who inquired to buy them, I asked if they played. We've been friends for two years now.

>>52700998
I bet she landed on some nid infested world.

How does a complete social autist find some games at a local hobby store?

I need steps

>>52701019
google and GW search engine, but you are aware that you'll have to interact with people to actually play right?

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>>52700990
>TS
muh grudge
>Tau
muh damocles
>Necrons
muh dynasty
>Iron Warriors
muh iron cage
>World Eaters
MUH NAILS

>>52700997
The only nearby store closed down a year ago because nobody was buying anything except packets of yugioh/Pokémon cards. Most of the hobby just seems to have left this area

>>52701019
Step 1: go outside

>>52700990

Heavily Dark Eldar-themed Ynnari
>Muh edgy anti-heroes

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>>52700998
Samus may be a tough motherfucker but shes probably only space marine tier in physical fitness, if a foot and a half shorter, with better power armour, but then again it depends on the writter

>>52700990
sisters of silence
>muh blanks

>>52700990
Dark Angels
>muh self-flagellation

>>52701040
Step 2?

>>52701036
I know a store, I know people play there. I know they are nice. I just don't know the specific approach to engage.

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Reposting my list because I need some feedback on it.

>>52700990
>Death Guard
Muh resilience
>Admech
Muh machines
>Necrons
Muh dynasty
>Nurgle Demons
Muh laughter
>Dark Eldar
Muh torture
>Eldar Corsairs
Muh speed
>Squats
Muh rules are gone

>>52701019
from one socially retarded person to another its all about those first steps

everyone at game stores are usually very happy to see someone new get interested because they want to play someone different from the five regulars to the store, and the manager sees dollar signs when a new person comes in

i know it feels awkward as fuck but youre just gonna have to go in there and make yourself talk to people, probably the best thing to do is walk up to someones game and ask if you can watch, if they seem receptive ask a couple questions, pretty soon youll realize everyone there is autistic and this is some form of safe space where they can all be awkward and weird

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>>52701059
Samus is a silly ditzy musclebimbo.

>>52701093
I haven't figured out the rest, once you get to the store thats as far as I've gotten. so if you figure it out be sure to post about it.

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>>52701000
>>52701005
>>52701060
>>52701078

that's not how it works, you're supposed to mock the faction's VALUES, not their themes

>>52701124
>silly ditzy
>bimbo

Astonishingly shit taste.

>>52701124
She's also a half xeno mutant

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>tfw won 10 to 5 vs necron player
he practically reduced my army to one third while i killed maybe five of his models

>>52701124
Metroid was literally my first videogame ever so i see samus as some sort of weird strong Mother figure, and therefore get bothered when people make bimbo porn of her.

to keep it on topic and avoid a b&'ing what would samus's statline be in 40k? Id say shes closer to a space marine than a 'umie since shes full of alien bird DNA

>>52701157
>muh autism

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>>52701158
that's what she is, and there's no point in denying it

>>52700990
>Muh lovecraftian giger bugs
>Muh shadow over innsmouth in space

>>52701173
that's fucking weird, m8

She's not Ripley, she's a sexy spehss amazon who likes balls.

>>52701211
see
>>52701157


learn2meme

>>52701157
I'm sorry I didn't meme your meme the way you wanted, but you should realise it's impossible for me to give less of a shit about that.

>>52700985
your're just gonna have to find a store like an hour or two away and make all day trips like once or twice a month, plenty of guys at my store drive the distance, one guy drives like an hour and a half and goes twice a week

>but i'm lazy/busy/there's no game store within 2 hours

then shut the fuck up and stop bitching, we aren't gonna hold your hand, this isn't plebbit

>>52701011
>masters of ancient technology
>mindless hordes led by a bare handful of masterminds
>virulent sickness spreading through their ranks
>formerly plagued with infighting before united against a common enemy
>destroyed everything in rebellion against their masters

Checks out

>>52701224
>LOOK! LOOK HOW MUCH I DON'T CARE!
>I'm totally not embarrassed by my inability to understand the format of a basic meme!
>I'm a smarty boy!
>I'm so self-confident in my smartiness I'll show him how much I don't care by replying in a needlessly lengthy manner!

>>52701258
wew

>>52701258
>complains about people replying in a needlessly lengthy manner
>by replying with a post double the length
What is this autism

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This guy comes to your battleground at GW and wants to join in with his

>Ultramares

How do you react, /tg/?

>>52701258
I think it's time to stop posting. What you're saying doesn't look the way you think it does. If you were more self-aware you'd be embarrassing yourself.

>>52701294
>square bases

Sorry mate i dont make the rules

>>52701294
I'm pretty sure the store would laugh him out the door if he brought those in. Not to mention if it's at a GW store the manager might ask him to use real GW models and not rainbow ponies,

>>52701294
Much better modelling and painting than 90% of players I'd play him.

>>52701190
>commando warrior woman
>operates advanced power armour developed by a dead race and does her own maintenance on it
>outsmarts advanced super computer, twice
>kills massive monsters by exploiting weaknesses
>is able to steal and integrate alien tech into her suit by herself
>saves entire planet/galaxy multiple times, solo
>bimbo

>>52701173
WS3 BS5 S4 T4 W3 I3 A2
tons of unique wargear and at least a 3+

>>52701279
I wasn't complaining about the length of your post, just pointing out that it proves that you lied, that you're embarrassed, and that you're a pussy.

It's not a complaint, it's a mockery. I'm making fun of your bitch ass.

>>52701093
Go up, ask "hey are you playing warhammer?" when you see them playing, "cool. I'm Anon, I'd like to get into 40k, can you tell me about it?" and the rest will come naturally since they really, really want new players they will be friendly.

Or if you already have your army, come into the store with it, go over to the 40k table, "hey is this 40k?" "cool, I'm a new player, I brought my army with me, does anyone want to play a beginner game and show me the ropes?" and again they will be friendly and want to play.

Remember they're all gonna be nerds like you with varying degrees of autism and if you look and smell ok they'll want to be friends.

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>>52701294
>Expecting me to play anything that aren't on the base they're supposed to have
I couldn't care less about the ponyshit but you have to at least follow the basic rules.

>>52701296
You think wrong, bitch boy.

Maybe you should stick to /b/, that's where meme-impaired newfags usually hang out.

>>52701294
>square bases
Really though he'd just be laughed out the store for being a cringey sperglord.

Even amongst fellow autists there is a further caste of autism so powerful that the standard fa/tg/uy cannot handle it. This is a perfect example.

>>52701294
>rectangle bases
>REEEEEEEEEE

>>52701324
I'm not whoever you were responding to but ok.

>>52701294
Look urgently at friend across from me and say

"Sorry, this is supposed to be our last game."

Then just don't leave and hope he finds his way.

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>>52701124
She's a space orphan turned mercenary that's almost completely broken thanks to being raised by severely autistic aliens and experiencing a solitary life of near constant violence.

Kooky, ditzy people don't walk onto SR388 and start the genocide.

>>52701362
Oh wow so you made an ass of yourself entirely without provocation by clumsily misinterpreting a post that wasn't even addressed to you.


Follow this advice: >>52701349

>>52701324
Lied about what?

>>52701349
>meme-impaired
you're taking this too seriously, you tried to start a shitty meme and it didn't work out, move on.

>>52701395
We know she uses her free hand to access panels, but does that mean everyone in the universe is left handed?

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>>52701395
>>52701321

explain this then.

Samus is a total ditz.

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>tfw you're totally OC meme never done by anyone else on this site is derailed by one sperglord looking for (you)'s autistically screeching at everyone

>>52701396
No, I was just pointing out that your post was double his' length. That's all.

Morty

>All 7, I 6, T 8, ld 10
>FMC
>Standard Primarch rules
>Poison 2+ S+2 AP2 weapon
>Big Template Poison 2+ AP2
>FnP
>That FnP trait
>While on table, reduce T of all units by 1, units with MoN gain +1T instead
>500pts

Y/N?

>>52701335


I still have a PROMOTIONS! Broidlord on the 40mm round base it came with, and i know the new one utilizes an oval base. Do the rules dictate me rebasing the model if i want to use it?

>>52701408
I didn't, I just pointed out that you all sucked at it, and apparently that triggers you, cause you also take memes seriously enough to get offended when people correct you on your use of memes.

You somehow felt offended when I mocked the other hypocritical douche who very transparently pretended he didn't care >>52701397 , so you made a dumb post, and I'm making you aware of it so that you don't make an ass of yourself next time this situation comes up.

That's my little service to you. No need to thank me, but it'd still be a normal show of common courtesy.

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anyone think well see new nids anytime soon/ that they wont suck in 8th edition

>>52701468
>that T lowering and raising rule
S6 blinking SMs and S4 blinking guard
>entire nurgle marine army becomes T6 or higher
>only 500 pts
literally the most OP shit ever

>>52701429
Yeah, no, that's not what you did, you were using the length of my post as a bullshit way of contradicting it, under the false claim that I was "complaining about the length" of the previous post.

That's what you did, and as I pointed out, it's retarded.

Maybe you should admit it.

>>52701429
>>52701408
>>52701362

guys just stop responding to him, he just wants attention

>>52701548
Nah I mostly just want to see you all admit your faults of reasoning, and to properly use memes.

or, failing that, to fuck off back to /b/ with all the other newfags.

You don't even have to give me (You)s for that, just admit you made a bunch of stupid posts and that you're embarrassed of having made them, despite your clumsy attempts to state the opposite.

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>>52701422
>explain this
Ancillary comic tie in that gets made for just about any product created in japan. Typically a loose collection of gags to contrast the actual product and make the most of the brief nature of the four-panel medium.

In the official comic she gets space PTSD after watching a dragon kill and eat her parents.

>>52701419
The bigger question is why do space pirate consoles allow non-pirate personnel to access them freely. You'd think they'd have some kind of physical cover after the first few break-ins.

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Can anyone redpill me about Age of Sigmar?
Haven't played Fantasy for a long while and need some unbiased, non-Sigmar fanboy opinions, whether to start playing Fantasy again.

>>52701419
i would say that's not a big deal but i played french horn for years and my dad is left handed

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>>52701511
Oh don't worry, the time is nigh...

>>52701517
I wanted him to be super durable model that just sits there and makes things go in your favor.

He is also not really good against vehicles. Either way, Toughness manipulation seemed like the best way to convey how he spreads super poison that harms enemies and helps his dudes. I thought about having him has big AoE where enemies have to constantly roll Poison damage, but that would be a lot of rolling.

>>52701609
>redpill me

AoS is actually a massive jewish conspiracy preparing to enact the white genocide and turn all white men gay

but seriously AoS is totally nothing like fantasy, the rules are free on GWs website, they are honestly a lot less archaic than WHFB, give it a read

>>52701609

>Redpill

Something something Jews cuck ect.

>Tell me about.

Horrible launch, recovered a bit with the General's handbook patch but still ultimately a very flawed ruleset (you can do good simplified rulesets, this is not one of them.) and scales up poorly.

>>52701609
>going to the /40kg/ and asking to be readpilled on a game system most people here hate or have never played

there is a sigmar general, why dont you go ask them about it? they will be a lot less biased

>>52701650
>AoS is actually a massive jewish conspiracy preparing to enact the white genocide and turn all white men gay
I fucking knew it! I'm gonna go buy a water filter first thing in the morning. Any good filter merchants out there?

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>>52700990

Tyranids
>muh chaos is boring muh abaddon is boring muh stupid space cockaroachs that are actually the most boring thing about 40k should be the main big bads and muh unironically think the swarmlord is good and should be the main bad guy of 40k even though he ruins tyranid fluff and I understand nothing about 40k lore or 40k as a setting and muh muh muh

>>52701698
wut
I didn't want to risk being influenced by people who love the game undyingly.

>>52701716
trust me everyone on a general is not biased towards the game

just look at this one, half the people here hate 40k or haven't played it since 3.5, i could list off ten reasons why you shouldn't play 40k right now despite jacking off to the game and lore daily

>>52701014
Normie thing like PF and MTG are popular around here, but the only 40k group consists of NEETs and retirees who only play during the day.

>no tutorial on painting guilliman
;_;

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>>52701709
>no shopped picture of Alex Jones with 40k aesthetics on google images

i'm disappointed guys

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>>52701711
>unironically think the swarmlord is good
There literally only one guy on Earth who thinks that and it's this faggot

>>52701804

have you really not seen the nidfag on here you says shit like there are nids that are primarch levels because they're so highly evolved?

he probably thinks the swarmlord should have horus's statline and abilities

>>52701774
>Watch Ultramarine's tutorial
>Add more gold
>watch tutorials for finer, unique details

Just because there isn't a specific tutorial for Papa Smurf doesn't mean that it doesn't show you how to paint smurfs

>>52701836
t.bh Necrons and tyrannids are two fantastic faction lore-wise but godamn do they need new models

>>52701774

theres one in the white dwarf stupid idiot

>>52701511
8th ed melee, charging unit gets initiative.

>>52701774
>no jes design video for king smurf
WHERE IS IT

IT'S BEEN A MONTH SINCE THE LAST HERO VIDEO THING

>>52701836
>have you really not seen the nidfag on here
I mentally filter shit I see here. It makes browsing more enjoyable.
>he probably thinks the swarmlord should have horus's statline and abilities
Swarmlord a shit. Only people lacking good judgement and taste think otherwise

>>52701774
Daddy Duncan did a tutorial on the sword, hair, and armour, which is like 90% of the model

>>52701869
Jes only cares about indulging in his fetish for Eldar feet.

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>friend shows me a model
>"yea, I spend a lot of time on it "
>lighter colors are runny
>thicc in areas
>little to no highlighting
>gratuitous Nuln oil
>"looks good, man"
>mfw

I'm likely too autistic to offer advice without sounding harsh.

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>>52701868

Looking forward to

>elfdar always strike first

>>52701716
Ask both, and split the difference.

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>>52701890
>worried about pansies in combat
>da boss has been lookin for youz

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When will get Cat marines?

>>52701890
>high elfdar get super duper ultra double strikes first

>>52701468
come on, for that toughness rule he'd need to be at least 700pts. magnus is 600pts

>>52701857
>white dwarf

>>52701487
No. Some tourneys may give you shit but old models (i.e. 28mm marines) are still totally legal in GW rules.

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>>52701911
reminder that eldar can casually bully orks and have a way to remove spores quite easily

>>52701468
If magnus is T 7 Morty is going to be at least T 8

>>52701963
>Nature
>fukinj
>six

>>52698184
>>52698197

What is IA?

>>52701963
I've had a mob of boyz stand up to a full squad of scorpions. With some help from their heavy armor and a deff dread.

>>52702005
Imperial Armory, its supplement books filled with crazy toys and models that GW doesn't want to support themselves even if Forge World is a part of GW.

>>52702005
invisible anus

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>>52701173
its hard to make rules for someone who has like a million abilities without making them a rules bukkake, so you'd have to focus on one or two things, Samus would probably get a 3+,4+, it would be cool if she got an ability to switch between weapons like an obliterator, maybe have missiles, plasma, and a couple other options for her gun arm, also a once per game 24" straight line speed boost hurting everyone in between would be cool, slap on a couple other USRs and gimme a nice gimmicky character for like 200 pts, would run

>tfw you have crippling metroid autism and jump at the chance to whip it out

>>52701112
Want an excellent icebreaker? Paint your whole army. Not most, not part: ALL of it. Nothing gets games better than a fully painted army on display.

>>52702044
>paint army in silence for first couple months
>get compliments as people walk around and notice them
>feels good man

Any word on primarchs other than guilliman being brought back?
Some are straight out of the questio like Ferrus Manus's whos head is held by fulgrim. Sanguinius was deleted by horus, so hes gone too. But primarchs like the Lion and russ.

Seems unfair chaos players get all their fucking primachs

>>52702005
Imperial Armor.

Essentially, it's the forge world supplement to standard 40K that gives certain factions unofficial models.

>>52702005
Immortal ass

not to be confused with the ass of a necron immortal, though they are similar

>>52702065
its been confirmed that all the primarchs are returning in 40k

>>52702062
Damn, I can barely do a squad.

>>52702005
Intersexual Anal
Impirial Agents
Insufferable Asshole
Imperial Armour

>>52702033
That swimsuit looks like a bitch to put on. But I like how it looks

>>52702007
sounds like a good match, who won?

>>52702065
to be fair, russ and most are missing. i could see the lion waking up soon to counter Mort

>>52700990
Muh flashlights

>>52702115
I ripped apart the scorpions, even if it took a few turns. Then the dread went to try and kill some howling banshees.

>>52702119
>>52700990
slaanesh
>muh fleshlights

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SEEMS LIKE DEAD MEN WANT TO LEAVE THEIR GRAVES
POINT TO EVERYTHING THEY LOVE TO HATE
BROKEN SKULLS REFTECTIONS ALL AROUND
EXECUTION BLOOD BENEATH THE WALLS

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>>52702181

>>52702181
let that psyker go, he dindo nuffin

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AGGRESSIVE JUNGLE WAR
BREAKING THROUGH THE LINES
SLAUGHTER CARVED INTO YOUR EVIL RANKS

>>52702217
In the eyes of Khorne, he did everything.

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YOUR DEATH WILL BE METHODIC I WILL LOSE MY WAY
AMONG THE WEIRDCONG
MACHINEGUN FIRE CHAIN
REACTIONS
SHREDDED BRAINS
AMONG THE WEIRCONG

>>52702079
all of them? including those who are dead? are they going to do some shit like with Girlyman?

Fuck, >>52702294 was meant for >>52702091

Konrad, Ferrus and Sanguinius are explicitly dead, like 'here are the bones and dead husk corpse' dead.

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Why's Khàrn such a swell guy?

>>52701468
>>While on table, reduce T of all units by 1, units with MoN gain +1T instead

That is worth 150 points alone due the T decrease. The MoN T increase is probably 200.

T7 bikes.

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Last thread some people expressed concerns with DKoK models going out of production so I went and checked which ones.

The sets no longer available are:

>Heavy Stubber Team 1
>Heavy Bolter Team 3
>Mortar Team 3
>Infantry Squad Advancing
>Infantry Platoon (includes Infantry Squad Advancing in it, so that's probably why)

All of those box sets (excluding the platoon, which is just a bunch of other sets put together) are variants of models with other equivalents still in available. They probably just decided to stop producing the versions people weren't buying and focus only on the ones people liked. Looking at the Infantry Squad Advancing set, I only see 5 models I like (pic related), and I would include them in the Infantry Squad Firing if I ran DKoK and just ignore the actual running models.

should the current iteration of ATSKNF go away next edition?

>>52702434
Why? Space marines are suppose to be good.

>>52702434
If the rules change in any significant capacity, ATSKNF will obviously change/be replaced to fit.

There's no way to tell what SHOULD happen until we get some actual information of what the next edition will look like, rather than half-assed speculation.

>>52702407
This proves the theory that most World Eaters are still capable of tactics and leadership. Kharn is the only one who attacks everyone, and if Anthony Reynolds is to be believed, it's out of religious conviction rather than blind madness.

>>52702434
Probably.

If we're getting a battle shock type of morale system, as opposed to sweeping advance, space marines won't really be that effected anyway, so there's not much reason for them to be immune to it.

How come no one uses Bolt/Gate of Change on Magnus?

>Cheap AP2
>Good range, Bolt outranges Doombolt
>At least S5, will usually kill Marines on 2s
>Bolt auto-hits while blast scatters on BS7

They seem really good at killing infantry, and yet I've yet to see people use it, even favoring Breath of 4+ over them.

>>52702449
because stuff like fear, moral, and sweeping advance is nerfed or doesnt work against half the armies in the game

>>52702468
what if the new ATSKNF let them reroll their battleshock or subtract 1 from the roll?

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>>52702434
Don't care, I just want drop pods so that I could viably deploy Helbrutes

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>>52702225
>>52702263
>>52702181

RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>52701468
>still loses to guilliman in 2 rounds
Yeah, sure. GW would be fine with at the very least.
That said, 500 points for that toughness rule is absurd. It's should be a bubble, not a fucking army wide rule, and he should be at least 600 points, especially since he'll probably be a psyker.

>>52702501
>helbrutes
Shit taste.

>tfw gonna have an 8k vs 8k match of Apocalypse tomorrow
I'm kinda excited but man I can't wait for it to be over already
How should I expand my Admech army? I've got a unit of rangers, vanguard, a single Onager and a Techpriest Dominus. Should I get two more onagers to get a 4+ invulnerable save on all of them?

>>52701511
If that bastard has anything to say about it, probably not.

>>52702501
>formation that gives them deep strike while still remaining independent of one another
>"downside" of double-firing multi-meltas/heavy flamers, ignoring shaken/stunned, and gaining fleet+rage
it's one of the actually playable chaos formations

>>52702501
You got the dreadclaw one. It's even an assault vehicle.

>>52702468

To be honest, I'm kind of excited for potential battle shock tests because my Night Lords might actually give some serious penalties if fear translates into affecting tests.

>>52702501

Give Dreadclaws a shot, man. I was quite pleased with how mine performed.

>>52702546

Chaos has a few playables. Hell, most of not all the legion decurions are more than usable because the Warband is a solid core.
However, I do wish the Hellbrute data slates were included because a mayhem pack or hellcult would be a sweet Auxillary

>>52702609
Just stick with spawn and get Obsec hellbrutes.

>>52702512
I actually had him at 650 and weaker flamer, but he felt too weak. He can't do that much in melee or shooting, when compared to 200pts units. Then rest of it goes to T rule which is strong, sure, but you kinda have to sacrifice good chunk of your army to make other part stronger.

Points aside, I think that rule itself is pretty cool.

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>>52702519
Hey, errasing Chaos Dreads wasn't my idea.
>>52702546
I know, but I really would like to field the Helforged Warpack since it would fill an Auxiliary slot and I could field that 4++ Character Dread as this nigger.
>>52702561
>>52702562
With 3 brutes that would be +600 points

>>52702546
Holy shit nigga are you retarded? That formation sucks balls. You have to roll on the crazed table every turn, so its a 1/3 chance every single turn that your model is useless.

If you want your Helbrute kitted for melee to charge he has a 1/3 chance of being immobilized.

If you want your Helbrute kitted for shooting to actually shoot he has a 1/3 chance of having to run.

Even without Crazed, Helbrutes are just worse dreadnoughts. They have 2 less attacks, no smoke, and don't benefit at all from Legion rules, even though Dreads have chapter tactics.

>>52701468
>>While on table, reduce T of all units by 1, units with MoN gain +1T instead
What in your brain makes it seem acceptable that Nurgle Bikers should be T7.

>>52702750
>Remove bikers from the game

>>52702718
They FAQed them to have A4

>>52702761
Should give that to deff dreads.

>>52702750
Ynnari

>>52702522
the 4+ invulnerable is great on onagers but 3 NL onagers is overkill firing on almost anything except a superheavy.
do get more onagers though, maybe do squads of two?
3 dragoons if you can afford
a squad of infiltrators
more vanguard and one squad of sniper rangers.

>>52702838
B-but Anon-kun, Deff Dreads are an Ork unit...

We use tons of cover in the games at the store. So much cover that long range weapons that need Los tend to suck. I've decided to ditch heavy weapons in my Guard blobs in favor of plasma guns. Gonna be running kurovs on my ccs.

My question is, plasma gun on my ia Priest? And plasma pistols on sergeants?

>>52702641

I do, and I even stick mine inside a Claw. However, being able to take those in my Decurion would be cool to have as an alternative. Mostly, I just don't like the current auxiliaries. My Raptor Talon is core, Termie Annihilation can't take advantage of combi and reapers are 25pts, all the vehicle ones require 3+, Terror Pack is fine but Drakes are $75 each, which is a $150 commitment.

>>52702888
I built my rangers with two transuranic arquebuses because they look like Anti-tank rifles from WW2
Also the Neutron Laser is the one option I decided not to build.
I did want all of those too, but I'm wondering if I shouldn't also buy two units of cataphron servitors and at least one set of those big robots, just so I could run the Techpriest without the Dominus maniple.

>>52702718
dreadnoughts with free deep strike
that roll reserves as a single unit, rather than three separate units
but still deploy and operate individually, unlike loyal 'nought squadrons

downsides are
>1/3 shot of a double-tapping multi-melta on a deep striking 12/12 walker that can fire it at full BS the turn it arrives
>1/3 shot of ignoring shaken+stunned and gaining rage
>1/3 shot of ignoring shaken+stunned, gaining fleet and rage

If you're a fucking idiot and deep struck your dreadnought outside of 24" (but why would you, he has a fucking multi-melta) you're forced to run on the third result, but that's only a downside if you're a complete retard who shouldn't be deep striking anything to begin with.

>They have 2 less attacks
idiot

>no smoke
These guys are termicide/obliteratorcide on steroids. If you aren't shooting or charging every turn, you've done something wrong.

They blow loyal podnoughts out of the fucking water, while also being considerably less costly points-wise, thanks to not having to purchase 100 points of taxi service.

>>52702899
>My question is, plasma gun on my ia Priest? And plasma pistols on sergeants?

no of course not dumb dumb

>>52702923
Okay. So then bolt guns on the sergeants and priest?

>>52702918
oh, I thought you were looking at just skit stuff.

if you want some cult mech than an Elimination Maniple would be a great buy. true, the formation doesn't have a TPD, but he's allowed to be in the robot unit filling the same role as a datasmith (you could have him and still have the datasmith in the unit).

I love my Robots. They're fantastic units, they usually don't survive all game but the enemy has to overcommit to take them down and if he doesnt, the flamers and powerfists will destroy his lines when they get to his DZ.

>>52702992
I consider "Admech" a single army, and I deeply wish they only had one codex.

>>52703036
Why do people like AdMech? They're the lamest army in the game, every single model looks exactly the same.

>>52702921
So you have a huge model that needs to DS within 24" to be usable, and within 12'' to get melta. Seems like its asking to scatter straight into a mishap.

The huge boon of pods is that they get intertial guidance, so they don't mishap, and then the dread can be placed anywhere within 6" of the pod. Podnaughts are always exactly where they need to be. Same can't be said of brutes.

And what about the rest of the game. If you need it to charge then it's got a 1/3 chance of being stuck. If you need it to shoot it's got a 1/3 chance of having to run.

Any model where you can't strategize further than 1 turn in advance with is fundamentally garbage.

>>52703051
Because they get PTRS rifles IN SPACE

>>52703068
PTRS?

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>>52703082

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>>52703082
anti tank gun from WW2, /k/ needs to leave

Can vehicles firing ordinance weapons fire the rest of their weapons at full BS?

In a few hours the bad guy of Dawn of War 3 will be revealed. Wanna bet who is it going to be, /tg/?

>>52703123
literally read the god damn rules and you'll find out

>>52703128
wait it's not just a cluster fuck of eldar/boyz/SMs? there's an overall badguy benevolent towards them all?

most def either chaos or necrons, id love it to be necrons but we all know main villain is always the spiky boyz or thier daemon pals

>>52702992
Yeah, that's my boops. I go for the phosphor blasters all round on the grounds I don't really need S10 melee with Smash and Haywire on the Datasmith, but they're the best distraction carnifexes in the world. They've tanked entire armies of Guard shooting before, 2000 points on an open table because there's fuck all terrain in the store and he manages to kill both bots and one random Skitarii with a scattered blast, and nothing else. Didn't even get 1st blood because of the Datasmith hiding behind a box.

>>52703056
>Dropping within 12"
>asking to scatter into a mishap

Considering 12" is the scatter range, it's really not that likely. Put it like 8" away from your target and you'll probably be fine every time

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>>52703162
Eldar, Orks, and Marines will ally to defeat the ultimate evil hidden in the planet.

It's most likely Chaos since the planet emerged from the Warp.

>>52703051
Bait

>>52703193
damn it would have been badass to find out they had to team up in the end like a more well written version of SC2, but ill still enjoy it with the knowledge before hand

>>52703180
Usually that tank you want to kill with your multi melta has some infantry nearby it that you might scatter onto. If you actually played 40k you would understand this.

>>52703193
yeah most likely this spear of khane thing is b8 to release some sort of deamonic shinanigans

though why orks would want to team up with anyone to try and stop it instead of just enjoying the fight it brings is anyones guess

>>52701868
That doesn't help tyranids at all.

>>52703180
>he thinks its that simple

spot the person who hasnt played 40k in years

>>52703242
Not the guard player I knew. He never learned how to bubble wrap.

>>52703281
If you're playing against literal mouth breathers even Orks are viable.

>>52703281
Bubble wrapping is kind of a silly tactic if you think about how most armies would fight realistically

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Randomly generated a regiment of IG.

Penal Legion: Scum, criminals, murderers. Watch them closely.
Hive World: No claustrophobia, excellent sense of direction? Urban combat!
Desert: At home in sun, sand and wind.
Drop Troopers
Hive Warfare
Overzealous: need to be actively held back from giving their lives for the Emperor
Modified Weaponry
Glory In Death: The regiment's mission is to die, and take as many enemies with it as possible.
Allies: Adeptus Arbites
Enemy: Tyranids(Stealer Cultists?)

This sounds really neat to me. Maybe their homeworld has resocialization tech kinda like Star Craft's Terran forces?

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>>52701157
OP described IG as ordinary humans, so no. You just lack reading comprehension, get off my Cambodian iphone-repair board.

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>>52702519
>>52702714
>hell brutes
>as if giving CSM shitter rules than loyalists wasn't enough they got rid of chaos dreads and replaced them with hideous knock offs

>>52703356
Yep. Its not good enough that Chaos gets something that's the same as the Imperial version. It HAS to be worse.

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Is it possible to make a better DG list without the use of Tzeentch allies?

>>52703310
>40k
>Realistic
Also, in Urban fighting infantry are supposed to keep close to the tanks to protect it from enemy AT. Tanks are big ponderous things, and in tight quarters they can easily be flanked by enemy infantry with RPGs, or explosives.

And in 40k with things like Melta, powerfists, burrowing infantry, jet pack infantry, flying infantry, teleporting infantry, and whatnot, it makes even more sense to keep infantry close to the tanks.

>>52703498
Sorry, I talked out of my ass, I didn't think it through.

>>52703264
Fine then, individual movement stats. Nids will probably be fast, might be able to catch eldar.

>>52703498
id love some sort of imp guard formation that makes any units within 6" of a tank "on alert" and able to overwatch for it, it just sucks that theres no downside to attempting to charge a tank

>>52703270
Deep striking isn't rocket science, man. People managed to use it effectively before inertial guidance. Still do, aside from a few folks in this thread it seems.

>>52703490
>ACs
Why though?

If you want them to shoot at medium infantry give them HBs, they get one more shot and wound T3 just as well.

If you want them to shoot at light infantry give them missiles, so they can get a blast.

If you want them to shoot at vehicles or termies give them LCs.

If you want them to shoot at MCs give them LCs or missiles. Pretty much all of them have a +3 or better.

If you want them to shoot multiwound models give them Missiles or LCs. S7 can't ID Tau suits, marine characters, or daemons.

The Autocannon is a meme gun. Jack of all trades, master of none.

>>52703585
>it just sucks that theres no downside to attempting to charge a tank
why would there be a downside for it, that's literally what Infantry is for.

>>52703621
ACs are statistically better than everything else against anything but AV 14, especially when you factor in 1 lascannon shot is the equivalent of 4 AC shots for points

>>52703621
>giving havocs LC or ML
Nah that's a meme. AC are just the TAC option which makes them a better choice than HB.

>>52701294
Do people actually make these? Like they spend money and effort producing these? I feel like that's impossible.

You know how when you fill a glass of water with sugar it makes rock candy? My theory is those things are made when you replace the sugar with autism.

>>52702704
>Points aside, I think that rule itself is pretty cool.
It's a very cool rule, I just think it's too powerful. +1 T to your own units is one thing, but across the board -1 T to the entire enemy army is quite a bit more powerful.
I could see +1 T to every unit with MoN and an 18" -1T bubble working. That would still be quite powerful, but not so powerful that it warrents such a high point cost as to make morty not worth taking.

>>52703664
you literally just said infantry are also supposed to protect tanks from being attacked in close quarters environments

>>52703611
But to say that DS without a pod is better than with one is just wrong. The whole point of DS a dread is to put a big scary thing that can to a lot of damage right in your enemies face.

Sure you can try to jimmy around the model, and hope it gets lucky with its scatter. But if you want to get it close enough to do damage its almost always going to risk mishaps, while pods do not.

>>52702883
Ynnari is essentially playing with 20% more points gameplay wise. Lets try to not use the most consistently op race as an argument.

>wait for immolators since they first went out of stock
>try to get them when IA released and they came back in stock
>get screwed by LGS
>wait till they come back again
>order through a different LGS
>GW screws them over and they're OOS
>order direct from GW as soon as they came back in stock
>finally have 2 more immolators

I've been waiting a long time for this shit, and it finally came today. Now, I have 7 immolators and 2 exorcists. It feels pretty good, man.

>>52703585
Armoured Shield
1x Comissar
1x Leman Russ
1x infantry squad

Special Rules: Mobile cover
Infantry from this formation that are within 6" of the formations Leman Russ receive a 4+ cover save, not quite what you're asking for but it is a formation that incentivises bubble wrapping your tank

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I'm trying to run an infantry and tank Tau army with no monstrous creatures, because they are an easy win button. I'm trying to decide on whether to use a Hunter Contingent for the markerlight-sharing bonus, or the Dawn Blade Contingent from the Farsight Enclaves supplement to have re-woll wounds/armour pens against a unit of my choosing each turn. I'm running a Ranged Support Cadre which can only be run as part of the Dawn Blade contingent and as such can't do the markerlight sharing with the Broadside units. The broadsides can hover use the markerlights placed by the Pathfinders to count as 2 for every one. I'd also like to run a CAD of an Ethereal and 2 Kroot squads so that I can bring an Aegis line to hide my FIre Warriors, Pathfinders and Broadsides behind.

TL;DR is markerlight sharing between squads better than Shred/Tank Hunter against an enemy unit of my choosing each turn?

>>52703536
Tyranids in shadow war are M5, the same as marines, rather than the M6 they were in 2nd edition where marines were M4.

Posted in the wrong fucking general

>Ahriman
>3 x exalted sorcerer
>3 x Rubrics
>1 x scarab occults
Alright starting point for 1ksons?

>>52703836
Power Armor Marines are M4

>>52703873
and you wont even play half of those things, reminder that they are too overpriced in a matter of points

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Fuck me, I decided a long time ago if I ever would get into 30K, I'd play Thousand Sons because I really liked Magnus' arc as a character (and how he only really rebelled to protect his Sons in the Thousands)

And these sexy models are really making me feel like the time to get into 30K is right.

>>52703890
u rite

>>52702239
Khorne is hardly the model of a balanced Arbiter though.

>>52702400
so? Guilliman was "Never coming back, stuck in a stasis time bubble" levels of gone, and they still mary sued him out of that one. I wouldn't be surprised if Ferrus was just taking a nap on some distant Forge world, with no memory of being a primarch because plot reasons.

>>52703695
I guess pure points wise ACs are more effective against everything upto medium armor.

But a unit of Havocs with LCs is much more versatile in what they can hunt. Against vehicles the odds of getting a pen are much greater, and the +1 on the table makes the odds of crippling it much better. Ontop of that LCs can ID tau suits, marine captains, daemons, etcs. And they can pick off termies from across the map.

And if you want a weapon that can TAC take missiles. They can kill hordes much better, can also ID suits/captains, and are AP3.

>>52703082
>>52703092
>>52703094

the familiar stench of /k/... freaking barrel fuckers

>>52703953
>"Never coming back, stuck in a stasis time bubble"
Except that's wrong. That's been wrong since fucking second edition when C:SM was codex ultramarines.

>>52703976
Alright. The moral of the story is, never discount GW's ability to grub money. You should know by now they'll never let story get in the way of profits.

>>52703953
Ferrus was literally decapitated by fulgrim, the ultramarines even got the skull back and gave it to the Iron Hands.

>>52703973
this game has some of the most manly and fuckhueg powerful guns in fiction, of course /k/ is here.

What's with all the AoS retardation going on here /tg/?

>>52704014
Alpharius made a stand in clone because of mysterious reasons, that's the one that died. There, solved.

>>52700990
>muh runes

>>52703873
They are decent. Run one ExSorc with Seer's Bane for ungodly melee rape and spam Shriek and Heretech with others so your army has at least some damage output.

Either way, you will need to spend some time learning how to get the most out of your Psykers if you want to have at least snowball's chance in hell of winning.

>>52701487
It's completely fine for a model to be on the base it came with. There aren't any actual base size requirements.

>>52703730
By standing around it?

>>52703973
>How dare you like guns! /k! Now let us play with our plastic models of huge guns in peace!

As if every IG player in the thread doesn't love 20th century armies and weapons anyways.

>>52703890
That's dumb as shit, Marines run like fucking trains because they're made of steroids and hate and wear power armour to boot.

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>be khorne berzerker
>single handedly kill 20 stormtroopers and 7 mariens in a single battle, but get heavily wounded and in the verge of death
Which one of these is more likely?

>Get a mutation (please state which one) as a reward for his mighty deed
>Get healed back to normal so the blood keeps flowing
>Be left to die in glory for his blood is as good as any

>>52703953
>he hasn't heard the rumors about the lotd giant with silver hands

Oh... anon.

>>52704193
Depends on how much of a dick Khorne is feeling like being for the day

>>52701011
WE WUZ

>>52704193
Of all blood is equally good, then you should be healed, since a single berserker's worth of blood pays for itself and more every time he gets in melee range of an imperial guard squad.

Unfortunately Tzeench saw Khorn about to heal your berserker and screwed with the gift. Your now angry and have wings. Congrats!

>>52704193
Chaos gods are fickle, but khorne is the most predictable of all of them. Ask yourself a few questions:
1. Is there more blood to be spilled?
2. Are the enemy being dishonourable?
3. Was the killer being honourable?

If the answer to two or more is yes, then he'll probably get a boon.

>>52703953

Ferrus is coming back as the first Dreadnought Primarch, obviously

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Getting back into 40k after a few years of sitting on dusty models for armies that I don't find fun anymore. Gonna go IG for that sweet HFY vibe. Here's my mock-up 600pt list. Tell me where I've fucked up and how I can improve before I put dosh down.

>>52704196
PLEASE TELL ME MORE

>>52704317

Flakk missiles aren't worth it imo

>>52704396
my reasoning is that it's the only non-vehicle, non-fortification AA I can get.

>>52704424
HW teams get targeted first and foremost, they won't survive long enough to make a difference.

>>52704317
I don't know what editiOn you left on but in this edition a platoon is a minimum of 2 infantry squads and a platoon command squad. Veterans are a different troops choice entirely and come as single squads.

>>52704317
Dumping heaps of points into CCS is a waste since they die so easily. Also you list is illegal, for your two troops you can either have veterans, which is 10 vets, or a platoon, which is a PCS and min two infantry squads. Also flak missiles are garbage.

>>52704317
Flakk missiles are overcosted as hell, especially when you only have three and they're BS3.
Command squads are BS4, so give them shit like Lascannon or Melta to make up for that, not blast weapons. Don't take heavy weapons at all when not on foot, and this looks like a mech list without any mech at all.

Never mix weapons in squads, they should all have a single job.

You don't need platoon command squads to take vets, and in fact you need two infantry squads to take a Platoon Command, all three are one Troops Choice. Ditch them entirely, and the Lascannons on the CCS, and buy each veteran team and the CCS 3 of the same special weapon and a Chimera to cruise in, it's basically mandatory.

Buy at least one Leman Russ, since they're excellent and the backbone to any mechanized Guard list. If it's a variant with an Ordnance weapon, don't give it sponsons because they'll be snapfiring.

>getting started boxes for $85 at flgs
>Astra Militarum not in stock
Worth it y/n?
>dominus and onager are ~$100 bought individually
>stormsurge is $20 more expensive than Magnus the goddamn Red
tickled me silly desu senpai

>>52704315
That sounds pretty dope, actually

>>52704459
If missile launchers got flak missiles for free they would be great, having to buy them separately and more expensive is stupid.

>>52704483
Getting started boxes are great value. Well they are still a rip off but it's better than buying individually.

>>52704315
I would actually find that quite an interesting concept.
>Adapt the painglove into a dreadnought to bring the most desperate cases back from the brink.
>The Pain keeps them alive and focused.

>>52704483
I'm a britfag, so not sure about the prices in dollars, but IIRC $85 is the GW standard US price for a SC box, so buy on teh interwbz for convenient 20% discount.
With that, they're great value, especially the Skitarii one.

>>52704303
>Is there more blood to be spilled?
There is always more blood to be spilled.

>Are the enemy being dishonourable?
What do you mean by dishonorable? The enemy are Scions and Marines so I don't think so.

>Was the killer being honourable?
Again, don't know what you mean by honor. But the guy is a Berzerker, so he probably just charged and killed everyone with his axe, ignoring his wounds thanks to the adrenaline boost from the Nails.

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Playing my bud tomorrow for an inaugural game at his new apartment. He said he wanted a bit of a challenge, so I'm running an altered version of my DE list as Ynnari.

Fuck Reavers and their retarded point costs fucking up my lists.

>>52701098
It looks

(((fun)))

>>52704592
>I didn't fix the transports on the Grotesques...

>>52704587
trickery and witchery mainly

What if Ork Trukks could buy an enclosed crew compartment like Imperial Guard can, making it not open-topped? What if it removed the "ramshackle" save?
What if it was an assault vehicle by default, was a bit cheaper and you had to buy either a closed top or ramshackle as an upgrade, like choose either/or?

>>52704587
By the first one, I mean is the enemy all dead. By the second, I mean, are they using magic. By the third, I mean did the berzerker use magic (Obviously not) or did he kill weaklings when there was stronger prey available?

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>>52704459
Changed it up, I fear flyers but otherwise it looks alright to me. Thanks for the help!

>>52704672

>what is 'ard casing?

the correct answer is not an option on trukks... stupid GW

>>52704757
This isn't 5th edition.

>>52704757
Ditch the master of ordinance and see if that gives you enough points to upgrade those flamers to meltas.

>>52704644
Then no unless psykers and librarians are involved.

>>52703775
You are a faggot for purposely attempting to gimp yourself to appease the snowflakes

Let's talk tables.

In many battle reports and photos I quite often see people have horrible busy tables with their terrain in a garish array of colors and patterned game mats. On this your models don't stand out at all. I'm building my table and terrain right now and want models to be the focus of attention, not some building ruin that visually clashes with my table. Are there any proven ways to keep the backdrop of the game visually in the actual background?

>>52704812
>Making themed lists is wrong
neck yourself faggot

>>52704757
If someone is bringing flyers at 600pts they are a massive dick or a Tyranid player, and you should not play them because it's a total dick move.

You'll want melta not flamers, since you have the Chimeras for horde clearing, but I'd recommend keeping the Astropath and MoO, since that's a damn cheap basilisk and Telepathy is a good discipline. Drop the third special weapon on the squads if you need points, since only 2 can fire from the chimera hatch.

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Awww yeah, new army 100% assembled and basecoated. Now just gotta keep plugging away at the painting. Can't wait to play these.

Dare you face the might of the golden legion, /40kg/?

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>>52704812
>good sportsmanship makes you a faggot.

>>52704875
How many points is that?

I'm guessing about... 1850?

Do you usually run assassins in some of your armies? I've been eyeballing the Eversor or the Culexus and was wondering how they perform on the table

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>>52704921
Close, it's 2,000. That's what my local store plays.

>>52704924
Was meant for >>52704875

>>52700990
>Muh Sanguinius
>Muh tanks

Thoughts on my army?

Armageddon Steel Legion, 93rd Chosin Regiment

Company command squad
1xPlasma Gun
1xLascannon Team

Veteran Squad
1xGrenade Launcher

Veteran squad
1xGrenade launcher
1xHeavy Bolter team

Leman Russ Vanquisher
1x Frontal Heavy Flamer

Heavy weapons team
3xMortar teams

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>>52704833
Easy. Keep it simple. My friend made all the rocks and buildings and kept the colors drab and washed out. This is from last month, my GK vs Guard. I won because the poor guy was rolling TERRIBLY and I was rolling incredibly. I also managed to deny 90% of his 1st turn shooting by sitting behind LoS cover.

>>52704969
Mortars and nades=bad

>>52704944
Nope, this will be my first time running them. From what I've heard, they're somewhere in the middle, not bad but not great. Although if you use them properly you can get some serious value out of them, including the bonus victory point for having them in on the warlord kill.

Plus I love the massive statline and I'm going to have a lot of fun tearing through squad after squad of basic infantry with the callidus. Just gotta find a way to convincingly paint latex. Anyone here done that before? I'm thinking 'ardcoat over abaddon black.

>>52704930
I hope you are playing casual games. A guy at our club plays custodes/null maidens and he gets raped even against fairly easy lists because he simply doesn't have enough bodies.

>>52704875
I'm fighting Custodes tomorrow, actually. Anyone know how Tsons hold up against em? Any Advice?

>>52704987
Why? Haven't played since 5th or 6th edition, though back then they performed okay.
Also with Steel Legion, the 10th infantry guy has a GL by default.

>>52704973
Now THIS is a well selected colour scheme. I honestly don't know why people go for stuff like >>52698787 instead.

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>>52704681
>By the third, I mean did the berzerker use magic (Obviously not) or did he kill weaklings when there was stronger prey available?
Well in the fanfic I'm writing the Berzerker was part of an assault on an orbital defense laser. He was dropped right behind the walls where there were a bunch of marines, leman russes and heavy weapon teams. His squad was decimated by battle cannons and attrition from superior numbers of Black Templars, but he made it to the laser and killed the Scions guarding it after taking heavy fire. He managed to kill a small squad of Templars before collapsing from his wounds. (Before you say he's too OP, he already had some buffs from previous battles).

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>>52704989
I am, but I played a smaller version last week and won pretty easily. I don't think it'll be too much of an issue, we don't have many tarpitters at my shop. There's a drop pod marines list, necron destroyers, magnus 1k sons (which I absolutely shit on), and eldar with a wraith knight. I think I'll be alright.

>>52705022
If he has sisters of silence you might as well give up now, to be honest. Played against Magnus last week and he only got to cast one spell the entire game, pretty much. Then magnus got killed in melee by a Sister Superior.

Against just custodes, I dunno. Use your spells to kill them quick, otherwise they'll carve your dudes up like butter with the guardian spears.

>>52705040
because they like it?

>>52705067
Sounds like a pretty perfect candidate for a boon desu. Fuck, probably even daemon princedom.

Its late but thanks, >>52697954

What does a non-assholeish eldar list look like? I like footslogging- I'm guessing their formations and detatchments are all fairly hax.

>>52705134
>You can become a Demon Prince after only killing like 30 guys
Pff, Demons are pussies

>>52705095
Well, he's got a Culexus, but i'm not worried about that because I also have copious amounts of gun.
He also has a vindicare, which i'm really just hoping to dart across the board with magnus and eyeball punt into oblivion before it can do too much damage.

>>52705112
But why, it looks like a mess and makes i objectively harder to focus on the models or centerpieces, which is what people are generally the most proud of.

>>52705158
>Like 30 guys
>implying this was a khorne berzerkers first battle ever
wew lad.

>>52705067
Totally boonworthy

>>52705183
Well okay, according to the codex, you could become a Daemon Prince after just squatting a sergeant

>>52705154
Depends on the exact formations. Generally, as long as there's a mostly infantry focus and you avoid a lot of the BS units, they're fine

>>52705213
Well, the chaos gods ARE fickle. Maybe khorne was just in a good mood that day.

>>52705160
If he doesn't have sisters it should be a bit more even. Psychic Abomination/Rite of Annulment absolutely cucks magnus/all psykers really. Last game I got two separate independent character kills with psi-shock induced perils of the warp alone.

Again just try to kill them before they get to you, I guess. My guardian spear dudes took out a full squad of thousand sons terminators in a single charge.

>>52705230
Thanks for the advice man. My friend is real proud of his new custodes, and while I don't mind losing, I'd like to take out at least a few things, for my own pride.

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>>52704812
Mate, I play regularly against a proper That Guy in our local group. He runs Tau, with lovely stuff like an OSC with 3 Ghostkeels, double Riptides and basically steamrolls anyone he plays. He uses counts-as Hulkbuster Iron Man toys painted orange and black as either Riptides or Ghostkeels, and since he's so poor no-one disallows it. I've objected to it multiple times (on the basis that they're smaller than the Riptide model and it's easier to get a 25% cover save) but he basically loses his shit whenever I tell him that the counts-as rankles everyone. He will also blatantly list-tailor, and he's the reason we don't do pre-arranged opponents anymore. He will bring an army of Suits all equipped with Interceptor if he knows he's playing drop-pod guy.

I'm starting this old-school Tau force because despite That Guy's amazing range of absolute cancer practices, I can see the potential for a good army that can be fun to play against. When I started the force I made it with the intention that it would be a list I would enjoy playing against, unlike That Guy's every list. I love the models of the Pathfinders, Fire Warriors, Broadsides and Hammerheads, and Fire Warrior gunlines are an awesome spectacle that I've enjoyed even being on the receiving end of. Tau deserve better than MC cheese.

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>>52705271
Anon, you just might be the one respectable tau player i've ever encountered. Respect for that.

>>52705271
Anon
steal this dudes army. If he's that poor he won't afford a second one and you'll be rid of him.

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What kind of units would get thrown into an anti-psyker themed army? All I can think of atm is Null Sisters and a Culexus assassin. Also, I'm bitter because the LGS I go to has a lot of Pysker heavy armies being played

>>52705418
Just take a full null maiden task force attached to whatever other army you want to field. As long as you don't let them die on like the first or second turn they're all the anti-psyker you need.

>>52705271
tell me, why do you play against him at all?

Guys, are vindicators complete shit or am I just using it wrong?

>>52705455
Don't they shoot out S10 AP1

>>52705418
khorne
more khorne
all khorne all the time

>>52705418
Red hunters space marines, chaper tactics: adamantium will and some other goodies.

Ordo hereticus inquisitors can buy psych-out grenades, a null rod with disallows them to be targeted with psychic powers and another items which means they AND their unit ALWAYS count as being Bs10 when shooting at psykers, even when firing snap-shots.

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>>52705383
No, you don't understand. He'll just counts-as something else. He's been using counts-as Skylanders toys as Broadsides for years.

He's also been running Broadsides illegally as T5 for just as long, because when I first played him I asked if they were T5 and he just said yes ran with it. The whole group had no idea they were T4 until I decided to play Tau and actually looked at the codex, because none of thought anyone would be low enough to flub their rules like that. He's been in the group for about three years because we're a small-town group of around ten people and everyone's too nice to call him on his shit. I'm the only one, and it actually makes me look bad.

>>52705271
Don't worry his army will be shit in a couple months and he won't be able to afford a new one.

>>52705455
S10 ap2 ordnance large blast.

I've ran it in like 3 games, and of the maybe 10 shots I've made with it, I think I've killed maybe 5-10 models. Mostly due to the blast scattering off.

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>>52705494
S10 Ap2 large blast

>>52705455
you are using them wrong
you are also using this general wrong. whats your problem with them?

>>52705508
I was thinking of running Kharn with my CSM alongside a bunch of Berserkers and a Raptor Talon (because I find Raptors to be really fun). Though, I'm not sure what else CSM have for anti-psyker.

>>52705592
you know you subtract the vehicles BS(4) from the scatter distance?

>>52705494
>>52705564
>>52705592
No, vindicators. The space marine tank. Not vindicares.

>>52705531
Funny that, we just got a new Ork player in our local group who thought his Trukks were 11-11-10 and ork boyz were S4, and played them as such, but I believe that's because he's new to the game and not good with the rules.
>>52705564
>>52705596
Right, that's what I was thinking of. Exactly what I need more of in my Imperial Guard, I just didn't think Demolishers were worth it when building mine. Local Deathguard player taught me otherwise.
Local Death Korps of Krieg told me I could have his Leman Russ turret sprues though, which I'm happy for.

>>52705531
You all allow this cancer.

>>52705596
Blasts always scatter off, everything has cover.
>>52705621
Yes I know, doesn't help when I roll a 7 or 8 (which is average) and it only clips the edge of a blob.

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>>52705450
We run tournaments and choosing opponents is not a luxury we have. If we do pre-arranged games he will just list-tailor. Regardless, after my last game against him (when he tried to extend the OSC's rear-armour hitting rule to the rest of his Hunter Contingent "because it's firing as ONE UNIT GUYS") I just told everyone but him that I'm never playing against him again. Hopefully the word reaches him, because shit's fucked. We're running another tournament soon, and if I get paired up with him I'm either going to have to play him or forfeit. Since the group has no official leader, and no-one wants to kick him out because they all hate confrontation, we all have to suffer.

>>52705610
https://sites.google.com/site/wh40000rules/codices/chaos-space-marines/world-eaters
if you run traitor legion world eaters you get adamantium will basically for everything

>>52705667
They're a god-send against anything with Feel No Pain and high armour saves though. You're probably just having poor luck with your scatters.
Of course there are more efficient things for removing Guardsmen equivalents.

>>52705531
Oh christ, I'm having flashbacks to when I first played tau and my opponent thought he could literally take any piece of equipment for free on any unit he wanted to. He had like 2500 points of shit in a 1500 point game, stomped like 3 people who had never played tau, and then lost his shit when someone looked in his codex and compared his list.

>>52705418
Culexus supported by Black Templars with Inquisitors equipped with Null Rods. Sisters of Silence are also a decent option.

>>52705674
Hey that's pretty dope. I'll try running this with what I've got. Thanks

>>52705667
Are you subtracting your BS from the scatter distance?