Age of Sigmar General /aosg/

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Repostan Kharadron Overlords warscrolls from the livestream

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>>52686294

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>>52686312

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Is having 1 Mourngul in my list, and 1 to possibily summon a dick move?
Considering Death is by far the weakest GA atm i personally have 0 fucks to give

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>>52686331

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>>52686294
>Not bonezone
>Not rattlemebones
>Not graveslaves
don't care

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>>52686346

>>52686338
Use a necrosphinx instead of the second morngul.
It wrecks shit, can heal, and your opponent will put everything it has into it, making the rest of your army free to do whatever.

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>>52686367

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>>52686381

>>52686294
Skyhooks seem kind of amazing. 6 bolt throwers hidden in your battleline blob sir? Don't mind if I do!

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>>52686396

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>>52686407

>>52686378
Never thought of that desu, and it would work fluffwise since Arkhan is my General...
Any idea on it's point cost?

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>>52686419

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>>52686439
And the transport rules zoomed in a little.

that's all i got

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Vampires are the best undead, rotfags and baby rattles can fuck off

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>>52686499
Vampires > Skeletons > Ghosts > Zombies > Ghouls

>>52686439
>1 wound

Well, mortars it is

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>>52686378
>>52686437
>cheapest is >£65 on ebay
2 Mournguls it is then

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>make a fun ability
>make it impossible to hit
>require an unsaved wound
>make the reward d6, not 6

JUST

>>52686552
also go here fats
https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1886

Does anyone actually play this piece of shit?

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>>52686499
Master race reporting in.

So Kharadrons are looking shooty as fuck but fairly squishy and with shit melee.

Ironclads look appropriately shooty but frankly a 4+ on an 18 wound model is a bit squishy for how much it's going to cost especially since I don't think we've seen any armor buffs inside the faction yet (besides batten down the hatches)

Then again it has about 0 reasons to ever leave your deployment zone and should probably go into an AC-130 holding pattern around the battlefield so with its regen it's fairly resilient to chip damage from shooting.

@52686835
Yes

>>52686878
>0 reasons to ever leave your deployment zone
Objectives

>>52686991
This.

One thing I love about AoS, is it's a game where you can table your opponent, and still lose. It's all about smart movement and objective playing.

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>>52686499
>>52686521

>>52686991

You have your little boats filled with dorfs for objective capping, you don't need your ironclad to do that

>>52686544
Go for Harbingers imo. Mourngul is just a big tank.

Arkanaut Company £27.50
Book £25
Cards £10
Frigate (medium sized ship) £50
Admiral £15

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>>52687104
Got them already in my summoning pool, with Archai already on the table

>Leader
Arkhan The Black Mortarch of Sacrament - 340
Necromancer - 120

>Battleline
10x Zombies - 60
10x Zombies - 60
10x Zombies - 60

>Behemoth
Mourngul - 400

>Other
2x Morghast Archai - 240
10x Hexwraiths - 320
Summoning Points - 400
--2000 points

>Summon Pool
10x Great Blade GG
40x Zombies
2x Banshees
2x Harbingers
6x Hosts
1x Mourngul

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>>52687142

>>52687088
The things likely going to cost 500+ points and will land 5 or 6 wounds a round before saves with its little guns and a d6 with the big cannon every other round. Its a poor artillery piece.

Just bought blades of khorne and labyrinth of the lost from my lgs. For some reason the pages on both of them are slightly warped. Is this normal for gw books or not? Kind of bummed to buy new books that feel like 2nd hand..

>>52687303

Mine wasn't warped, either take it back to the shop or contact GW, you should be able to get a new one nae bother.

>>52687232
more like 300 to 350 points. they do want to sell models you know.

>>52687303

Doesn't sound normal. Take that shit back and get a replacement. You pay a premium at gw, for that premium you atleast expect a product in good nick and if it's not tht premium affords you the right to return it, IMO atleast. Gw is usually very good at customer service type shit. Assuming it was a gw store you bought it in or online and not a flgs and then it's entirely up to them.

>>52686338
no ita not a dick move. youll need that vs dorfs anyway

>>52686878
you know it can reliably heal D3+1 wound a turn with a normal army and up to 3d3+3 wounds a turn with with the right build right ?

>>52687232
>500 points.
yeah no. thats what cost a magma dragon.. And for that price the magma dragon can skullfuck EZPZ anything in the game

>>52687154
>No start collecting

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>52687666
What does that have to do with it? Lord Celestant Stardrake isn't worth 600 either.

>>52687338
>>52687448
Thanks for the info guys! Bought them from flgs because I want to support them for offering free gaming place. But I suppose I'll have to ask for refund or new product after Easter is over.

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>>52687901

Why would one loose possible additional profits producing a start collecting with discount when customer will pay full price for the release anyway ?

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>>52687941
Really made me think

>>52687919
no do it fast, youll end uo skipping the legal retractation date (14days) or they could tell you that YOU did that by pouring water

>>52687941
Why would one behave like a good fellow towards people?

thinkingemoji.png.exe

>>52687614

Yeah they're pretty resistant to chip damage but with the current creep doing 18 wounds to a 4+ save unit in one shooting phase isn't ridiculous

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>>52687985
>Why would a megacorp that want to fuck customer for money not do discount and just forget maximum profit to be "nice" ?

>>52686437
>Any idea on it's point cost?
400

Going to be 440 in the next edition

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>>52688015
>He doesnt now about the power of friendship

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BONEZONE?!

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>>52687903
Really made me think

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>>52688123
Repack for 15 coming.

>>52686835
yes

>>52688224
>taking the bait

>>52687903
>What does that have to do with it? Lord Celestant Stardrake isn't worth 600 either.
bronze league detected

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>>52688123

>>52688254
could of done worst

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>>52688262
he is right tho. Its worth more

>>52687147
>WANTING to push around that many dudes
Fuck your games must be 10 hours each

>>52688313
I'm so fucking god damn sick of Khorne

>>52688304
>Could of done worst

>Could of

definition :

How the uneducated say 'could have'
chav: I could of got a E in school fo da english literachar, but i got a ungraded instead.

>>52688142
How they discontinue thise and give us new models. they are already 10 years old...

>>52688350
>45 models
>So many

huh found the beastclaw

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>>52688351
>Mad that khorne alone out sold 10:1 the other 3 gods combined

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>>52688411
>literally only make and release Khorne models and ONLY Khorne models so those are the only ones people ever buy because the other models are old and outdated
>HAHAH LOOK, KHORNE IS OUTSELLING THE OTHER CHAOS GODS!

>>52688439
what about tzeench?

Plague drones: 2 units of 3, or 1 unit of 6?

They're being backed up by 2 Daemon Princes for the locus either way

>>52688373
Jesus no need to get so defensive about nothing.

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>>52688351
>Playing an army that needs new models
pls.
I understanding wanting a new battletome or rules, but if you play TK, empire, any chaos, skaven, etc you have a complete army lst to choose from and nothing is really lacking. They all have ranged options, horde options etc.

I actually prefer the old stuff to new, such as iron jawz because they aren't complete yet. They don't even have any ranged options

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>>52688439
They started to make more khorne model becaise it was insanely more popular tho, not the other way around

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ITS HAPPENING!

GW have confirmed they're considering retconning AOS due to the success of TW WH.

THE HAPPENING IS UPON US!

AOS fanboys BTFO!

>>52688564
source?

>>52688564
Oh shit, I was just about to post this. They better not. I just dished out on a new army last week.

>>52688564
>Age of Sigmar game rules in the WHFB setting

I have a hard time believing this isn't bait but goddamn that would be the best thing.

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>>52688564
1) its not happening
2) TW ""succes"" barely made 1 million in profit as per there last annual statement
3) the people that bought it were tabletop groganrd that played 3 hours and stopped. its a dead game already even if part of some humble bundle for $6.

>>52688635
>best-selling Total War to date by a significant margin
>best-selling DLC of any Total War game
>to the point where they're actually planning to release more DLC packs than they originally intended because it sells so well
>'barely successful'

Bruh.

>>52688635
beat wood elf expansion in 12 hours (took it slow) haven't turned it on since.

will do the same for the dark elves whenever they show in the next game

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>>52688635
>>52688613
Thanks for the shekels kiddo!

We look forward to you spending more money on our new old setting.

>>52688564
I fucking wish, mate. That would be amazing, but I don't expect GeeDubs to have the sense to do such.

>>52688564
>source: his ass

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>>52688695
Its barely succesful for GW, the cut isnt that big.
it was preordered because grognards wanted to """""boycott""" AoS, nobody actually play TWWH as per the screen.
They try to shove this game to anyones throat and are 1 step away from giving it with an Happy Meal

>>52688564
Source or stop shitposting, lad.

>>52688628
This, I want AoS rules, the fluff could go fuck itself if we got the old world back

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>>52688635
#3 Dis-proven.

In other news, I love those new skeletons, but am saddened that I have no game to play them in.

>>52688746
>Its barely succesful for GW
Exactly. They want their cut in the new interest in WHFB

>>52688746

>the core part of a game that has a bunch of DLC is cheaper

You don't fucking say. You don't know how this sort of thing works, do you?

Well let me spell it out for you. See, you buy the core game because it's cheap, and you're more likely to buy the DLC and other stuff! Amazing, right?

>>52688746
It was in the Humble Bundle nearly a full year after it came out and after it had already been confirmed as the best-selling Total War ever. You're an idiot.

>>52688820

He's a shill for AoS, leave him alone and let him earn his 25 cents per post.

>>52688635
TWW sales: 1,418,411
Attila sales: 940,214
Rome 2 sales: 2,531,798
Shogun 2 sales: 2,633,473

sales accounting for years of release
warhammer: 1,418,411 per year
attila: 470,107 per year
rome 2: 723,370.86 per year
shogun 2: 438,912.17 per year

>>52688829
You need to leave.

>>52688829
A shill for AoS in the AoS thread?!?

Are you retards done?

>tfw we will never get Ironjawz buffs

>>52688746
>nobody actually play TWWH as per the screen.
>>52688635
>the people that bought it were tabletop groganrd that played 3 hours and stopped.
have you guys even been to /twg/?

>>52688564
Is there actually a source for this statement or it this guy just fishing for (you)s?

Genuinely curious if GW actually said that.

>>52688840
this is exactly what i said.
Merely grognard showing their hate for AoS by preordering TWWH.
Now look at Gw financial report. TWWH is 2% of their turnover.

>>52688846
>>52688858

Everyone in the AoS thread is a shill for AoS. Welcome to New Media.

>>52688554
[citation needed]

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Best way to run a dragon themed army?

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>>52688875
/twg" isnt the average buyer of the game tho. the median guy cloacked 30 hours to show how much he hated aos then forgot about the game

>>52688142
>15

If you mean 15€ for 5, then yes.

>>52688919
Moonclan grots with magma dragon and squigs

>>52688887

Man, they must be pissed about that.

>>52688929
no 15 guys.
Every single repack had at least 50% more models for at most 10-30% bump in price.

>>52688866
FOR WHAT REASON WOULD YOU NEED THEM
IRONJAWZ, KHORNE AND STORMCAST SHOULD GET NOTHING FOR 2 YEARS

Damn I live these thinking smile faces.
Also, if we can expect a spoopy battletome, what are the chances that skelington archers make it into it? Basically zero because they don't have recent models?

>>52688954
But Ironjawz has fuck-all and even the Savage Orruks are stronger than them.

>>52688929
Repacks only got cheaper recently you dummy.

>>52688876
First of all, if it was true nobody in head office would ever actually say it.

Secondly they are extremely happy with how AoS is doing. I'm mid-level in the UK, not high enough to me making decisions but high enough to know what the vibe is like in HQ. Its usually through people like me that info is passed down to store level staff.

Youd have to be fucking retarded to think theyd revert to something that did so fucking shit at the time just because a video game did well.

>>52688983
""""recently"""" means the last 2 years. so its a given now.

>>52689007
Psst. Hey, kid. I know your dad works for Nintendo, but still...
kys fag

>>52689007
Its just grognards shitposting. they are next to no WHFB grognards in flgs now as they all play aos.
The 10 last troll on earth go on tg but will probably stop in the next 5 years and play AoS like everybody else.

>>52688983
>>52689011

These people don't actually play or actually buy models, so they just shitpost and spout outdated memes about how horrible GW is.

>>52688746
>that confirmation bias

Sure bro, whatever.
Honestly they couldn't make a decent game out of AoS anyway because the world is too fluid.

I think that's what's gonna end up hurting it in the long run.

>>52688954
Why?

Updating battletomes is relatively resource light, youre only putting in a few new rules here and there and suddenly youre selling another 40 quid book that suddenly everyone needs to have because the good stuff isnt in the app.

>>52688980
That's good, fuck Ironjawz
Not true to what warhammer orcs are about in any way, those WoW tier fuckers

>>52689080
What are warhammer orcs about?
Spamming archers?

>>52689080
Good because this is Age of Sigmar, not Warhammer Fantasy.

>>52689080
>an entire faction spun out of black orcs
>the best and orkiest models in the old orcs and goblins range
>not true to what warhammer orcs are about

What did he mean by this?

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>>52688029
>the power of friendship
*shudders*

>>52689112
no, this is Warhammer: Age of Sigmar

>>52689139
So again, not Warhammer Fantasy.

>>52689058
I don't get this perception that you can't make an AoS game. Like you can just paste in stormcast into TWWH and itd work exactly the same. Just because AoS doesnt do ranked combat as part of the actual game doesnt mean that it doesnt happen thematically.

In fact TWWH is just WHFB copied over to vidja, so why couldnt you do that for AoS, or any of its subgames, like silver tower or Hammerhal, or this new one Underwolds?

>>52689053
"Gw doesnt sell!!! its too expensive!!! totally closing in a month!!!!!"
-Grognard everyday since early 90's

>>52689111
I'm not happy about bonesplitterz arrow affinity either
>>52689116
There is no fun element whatsoever to Ironjawz

>>52689116
It's probably one really sad troll.
>muh TWWH
>GW will retcon AoS
>repacks get more expensive
>Khorne is popular because he has more models
Easily refutable b8. Is whfbg so dead that you need to samefag this hard?

>>52689080
see
>>52689116

>Biggest fightiest orcs in the fightiest faction with the fightiest monsters and the fightiest armour and weapons
Yeh man doesnt sound much like the old orcs at all youve really got us there. Right you heard him guys burn all your Ironjawz models.

>>52689192
>There is no fun element whatsoever to Ironjawz

Lies. Archaon monument for example.

>GW brings back WFB
>Fantasy Autists cheer
>Proceed to ignore it again, don't buy models
>Game drops behind the sales of paint in GW stores again
>GW cancels WFB
>Fantasy Autists scream again

>>52689234
*Gw gives Whfn back*
"gurrhurr i can finally use my 30 years old collection and not give any shekels to GW!!! that will teach them to dare realease AoS!!! hurr"

>>52689224
And their highest form of magic, being able to count above ten cause you don't wear shoes

>>52689053

I'm perfectly happy to give GW shit when they are shit and I've been doing it a lot over recent years so I get accused of this pretty regularly but honestly they've been hitting it out of the park recently and it's really hard to stay mad at them for past digressions.

Pretty much since Kirby left they've been doing stuff that I've been saying they should have been doing for years.

I kind of feel like GW are stood outside my window playing Peter Gabriel at this point, they know they done goofed and they are legit trying to win people like me back instead of at best pretending like I don't exist or at worst treating me with contempt.

I really appreciate it and it is working as I recently started playing AoS, my first GW game in about 5-6 years.

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Can we do the post custom warscrolls thing again? I like seeing what creative people come up with, and what things you think are lacking from certain factions.

For me it's Fimir as an army, and some sort of multi-wound units for Dispossessed.

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>>52686262
>tfw you enjoy the lore, but you're too intelligent to play the game

>>52689402
>enjoy the lore
>intelligent

Pick one.

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Dont know if I prefer to order a Charvel to Mike Shanon or make the Niggest Dorfs Overlord fleet the earth as known.
6000€ could get me a couple frigate I suppose

stop

replying

to whfbfags

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>>52689463
>Niggest Dorfs

>>52689463
>a Charvel to Mike Shanon

What are these words

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>>52689490
Pretty sure mike shannon is the name of some guy that builds guitar and charvel are a famous guitar brand.

If not fake i would love to see this guy putting together a 6000€ big army of overlords more than a pic of a 6000€ guitar

How come we have to pay for the new warscrolls now? I thought a big bit of AoS was how the rules were meant to be free?
I reckon providing rules for free would encourage more people to play desu senpai

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>>52689401
Sure.

Wheres a good place to see pictures of cool painted armies (maybe from contests or stuff)?

i came to say sigmarines suck
noone over 10 can actually like these right

Is it just me, or are skeleton warriors sold out?

Skeleton Warriors sold out in germany. its happening boise get your bones rattled

>>52688461
Asked this at the wrong time, seconds before the shitstorm

Little help?

>>52689698
They are free.

Shadow elves when?

>>52689716
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipN2XacvnzNmB8nNY7juIwhIoiDiFBcKJcoOiCDlaMK7NA08IZZAuE4idH_sA71lEQ?key=UEFnazFldWlIXzhmWWJ2bDZMUnBtMEpJUFU4WTBn

>>52689713
Ahem.
>Ogors

>>52689748
May.

>>52689747
where?
all i can find is the warscrolls for old armies, i thought new ones were only in battletomes

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>>52689768
Go to unit pages on the GW site.

There's a PDF download for that unit there.

>>52689764
It's eh... to clearly separate them from the Ogor armies.

>>52689713
I feel like the summon cost should be higher for something like that but I admit to not really knowing much about summoning balance. Also can't really picture a zombie with a banner, but the noise maker mental image of a zombie ogre just like, clapping and going blrgllbrggbl makes me lol. I like em though. Nice blend of zombie and ogre stuff.

>>52689779
oh thats cool
nice to see GW doing something good

Has anyone painted high elves as dark elves (or vice versa) before?
how well would it work?

>>52689765
More signs point to AoS not getting much after Kharadon Overlords for the next couple of months.

>>52689733
If you don't like aesthetic man gods you are literally a cuck boi with no taste.

>>52689743
there no good answer as it depends what you face and if you use them as hammer or anvil. if you face an oponnent that use 30+ buffed tzanngors or small msu go with 3 as it will be enough to kill them/not wate pointa vs a deathstar troops, if its mid sized/ shooting list go for 6 and stomp the backline

>>52689842
A guy whose bits box I inherited was painting his dark elf units (mostly Black Guard and Dreadspears, in current terminology) with gold plate, silver mail and green robes. It looked alright.

>>52689881
everytime "signs" pointed to aos getting nothing, we got releases

>>52689733
Do you think the same about Space Marines?

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>>52689932
Spooky

anyone got any tactics for the overlords or is there not enough information about them yet?

Is there a good way to wreck Ironjawz as Skaven? Without expanding into nurgle shit. Is Skryre the best route? How do I put out enough wounds to actually wipe out that many models? Should I just give up and burn my army?

>>52689053
>have to have Stockholm syndrome to play GW games

Figures.

>>52686367
The detonation drills are broken as fuck how are people not talking about this

Fucking 18 wounds and it can self heal too. jesus fuck this better cost like 500+ pts

>>52690243
Either swarm them hard, they don't have the numbers, or hit them with a lot of ranged, so Skryre.

>>52690243
Are you stupid or just shit? Play Skyre, drown him in Mortal Wounds, and just laugh. It's one of Ironjawz weakest match-ups.

I wish you could build mixed alliance armies in Pitched Battle. I understand that'd probably lead to some insane shit, but man, I'd love to run those Skydorfs next to my IJ.

>>52690317
Wait for Grot Sky pirates.

>>52690317
For some shit, it just feels really unfortunate. A Merwyrm is the natural fit to a Corsair army, but it's Destruction so newp.

>>52690306
But how do I deal with something like 230 wounds? I can't possibly put out that many mortal wounds.

>>52690243
Pestilens and Verminus just need to overrun them in numbers, you can lose 10 monks and not give a fuck but one Brute is a big deal, have at least 70 bodies on the table.

Skryre just does the typical stand and shoot, kill the warchanter first, counter attack with Stormfiends

Moulder/Eshin is fucked, you have low numbers and no one is as good in melee compared to 'Ardboyz, and Brutes destroy Rat ogres and Hellpits, but these 2 sub-factions are fucked in 90% of battles so no change there.

>>52690331
Yeah, you're right. Or the inevitable Ironjawz junkships. Although Grot Sky Pirates are probably after Cthulhu Aelves--they're probably pushing airships this summer.

>>52690333
I hope we see a change to this in GHB2. You'll probably have to pay a huge tax for it, but it'd be more fun, and it's not like it completely fucks the lore except for a few matchups. It could just be like 40k where some combos are good allies, some are bad, and some can't be taken together.

>>52690390
You'd already be paying a huge tax for it by not having access to any of your Allegiance's traits and the like.

>>52690410
You're right.

I wonder why they don't have it yet.

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I just acquired a box of Skaven Stormfiends and upon looking inside I notice that I believe there is only 2 options per Stormfiend.

I am new to this so perhaps it s not allowed, but is it possible to use multiple of the same in a squad?

Like what if I wanted to use 2 ratling and a warpfire or some other combo?

Do I just need to mod/greenstuff the hell out of them to get my multiple of the same weapons?

>>52690333
I kinda want to just proxy a merwyrm as a kharibdys sometime and call it a day.

>>52690446
If you tell your opponent before-hand that your unit is simply 3 of X weapon, there won't be a problem. If you want to, you can mod/greenstuff them if the visuals annoy you, otherwise who cares?

My local FLGS wants to get a Path to Glory campaign.

AT first I was like 'brilliant! Just finished this Doombull model I've been meaning to use for awhile now he'd make a great leader for a Chaos warband."

>Checks rules, no option for Doombull leader

Oh fuck that. Your telling me in all the mortal realms there isn't a single Chaos warband and that isn't led by a Doombull? What the fuck gives GW?

>>52690509
>thinking GW cares about warherd or brayherd
Lul.

>>52690509
Just homebrew some rules, anon. Who cares?

>>52689192
I like my ironjawz.

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>>52689932
>mfw guys at GW are reading these threads
>they see all the skeleposting
>decide to make Deathrattle the new Death release
Moonklan is next, all the diggers, skins and ironjewz better hide when the moon comes up.

>>52690464

Ok thanks for the info

>>52690276
Do you have a big, fighty combat unit that can put 9 wounds on it in one round?
Then get the double turn. Dead before it can repair. Bonus points for surrounding the ship so you kill all the dwarfs inside too.

>>52690537
>Moonclan

The next Grots we're getting are Sky Pirates.

>>52690525

Unfortunately the FLGS owner who plans on running it is pretty stickler for RAW and following rule books. I'll ask but he will probably shoot it down.

Still, I blame him way less than GW. God the treated Beastmen like shit in Fantasy and they're still getting the raw deal.

And I cannot believe that there wasn't a single Chaos warband with a Doombull in it in which the Doombull thought "I'm gonna fuck this guy up"and then proceeded to beat the shit out of the Chaos Lord and got default control the Warband.

>>52690537
>Moonklan is next
I want this to happen so much.
The big 'centerpiece' kit can be an absolutely gargantuan squig for something,

>>52690616
Yeah, I guess you can't blame him for playing RAW. If he lets you, he has to worry about letting anyone just come with homebrewed shit.

That said, I'd still ask him if he would be willing to work it out with you.

>>52690626
I want updated squigs so fucking bad

>>52690336
What the fuck point level are you playing at?

Arkanaut Admiral: Well congratulations Archaon, you got yourself caught. Now what's the next step of your master plan?
Archaon: Crashing this Ironclad....with d6 survivors!

>>52690537
Don't worry, Klansman, looking at the Silver Tower, I suspect we'll see the Moon Man Moon Klan and the Spiderfangs merged together. Grots must unite to purge their lands of diggers. Ain't nothin' wrong with a little grot pride.

>>52690626
Just make sure you paint your klan proper and pair those crisp white robes with some onyx black squigs, with big red lips for bonus points. And jeweler's chain ornamentation for bonus bonus points.

>>52690581
but... he can just hide next to some terrain. he is flying. and wants to shoot you. can move 8" + 2"-12" its not that easy to catch, especially since people arent going to field 1 big boat but most probably at least 3

>>52690707
... literally use something like a Bloodthirster like the art shows.

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r8 this gr8 gr8er daemon army m8s
>little bases for maximal pile in

>>52690707
WD had them be surrounded by FEC ghouls and destroyed.

>>52690464
i'm new to the hobby have you got a tutorial or something to use the sticky greenstuff?

>>52690757
The art didnt take jnto acount the mines that deal D6mortal wounds + 2d3 mortal wounds.
I do play khorne btw.

>>52690791
WD report are for the show tho.
I do t say its impossible, just that Im not sure my Blades of khorne codex is up to the task without some khorne cannons.

>>52690757
The ship has many defensive special rules against flying monstrous creature...

>>52690830
If they were for show, they'd have had Kharadron win. They lost.

>>52690830
It all comes down to price. If you can get 2 Dig Bick BT for 1 mega ship then its good.
If its 1:1..... just take some more cannons

>>52690626
Why not a War Moon? Like, an actual moon flying around with cannons on it.

>>52690791
Dude the White dwarf has Bela'kor being killed by rocks

all kinds of mad shit happens and you know they don't really follow the rules and fluff most rolls for the narrative

>>52690877
>>52690842

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Do you even lift bro??

>>52690840
>>52690830

Didn't notice that.

I did notice however it's flying units only. So mightly Lord on Jugger will deal with it.

or Skarband.

>>52690892
>all pale skin
>no nigs
>no browntowns
approved.

>>52690885
>implying the newest release always wins it's battlereport

>>52690842
Or they do that so that people like you think it isnt for show.

Having Overlords 100-0 death would just have all grognards whinning.
Having Death win vs the new hitness gives you 2 feeling :
1) Death is okay and so viable they can even win vs the new dorfs, so no need for buffs
2) AoS isnt about powercreep/ P2Win like 40k

so yeah pretty much for show

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>>52690892
I do ??

>>52690914
What a strange, conspiratorial mindset.

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>>52690777
>A lot of old Keepers of Secrets
10/10
I only have one.

>>52690914
18 Wounds on a 4+ sounds like something easily killed by FEC ghoul swarms though.

It's not like It's Phoenix Guard or buffed Saurus Guard.

>>52690914
The fact that I can defeat this with Swifthawk Agents using throwaway Eagles makes it all the more hilarious.

>>52690962
Because its WD. Conveniently didnt have the build that heals 3d3+3HP per turn

>>52690960
Welcome to Warhammer?

They'll sell you power creep but god forbid any other army look weak and drop sales better mask that too

>>52690981
>>52690962
>>52690960

"Hahah new dorfs are shit amirite?1?1!
-Aelves.

Thats why GW wont update you before 2022.

>>52691005
None of what I said implied I thought they were weak nor play aelves.

I play Fyreslayers.

>>52690962
It's on a knight base, has garbage melee output and is at best of middling durability. If anything even semi-competent catches it in melee *of course* it's dead.

>>52690962
How can FEC ghoul 6" move realistically catch and kill a ship that fly and move 8" +D6 even without using any harpoon or building tho ?

>>52689200
None of those people are me though
I really do like AoS, I've been a supporter from the start, I just don't like Ironjawz very much and prefer the world that was fluffwise

>>52691044
Because, my mind addled friend, You can keep those FEC Ghouls moving Six plus your run, and magic them enough to be at full HP, as a huge blanket net to block him in.

Bear in mind, These guys seem to NEED to shoot you. So you deny points and force that thing where you want it.

>>52691044
>8" flying range

People are crying about this thing? It can't outrun any sort of Heavy Cavalry and gets stomped by them in turn.

>>52690904
>not making the evil side multicultural

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>>52691069
>The flying centerpiece conveniently lends itself to be charged by cheap footslogging battleline that moved through the board unshooted and wihout getting intercepted by the other 1500 points of the army... wait actually no, he charged a zombie dragon with a gunship.
He charged. A zombie dragon. With. A Gunship. That have weapon of at least 12" range.

>Not for show

>>52691069
Won't he just shoot that one Courtier champion thing that lets the Ghouls top up? with that dead it's free reign to rake down the ghouls. That and how do no rend ghouls plan on killing it? with buffs they sometimes get like rerolls to wound and maybe a 3rd attack? i'm not familar with FEC.

My Pestilens is going to struggle and the Verminlord's no rend isn't going to help much. i think i'll just stick to Khorne and smash it with bloodcrushers

>>52690960
This is what happens when youre the fan of a company that treats you like disposable trash for a decade

>>52691125
I know rite??? its like people use gunship to charge things instead of using the 24" range and -2 rend guns specifically created to remove heavy cavalry that cannot go past the screen of cheap dorfs battleline

>>52691210
>>52691194

Because you can Deny LoS against Ghast Courtiers super easy?

And because

>20 ghouls rolling 3-4 attacks at 4+ 4+ ( plus around 4 wounding 3+ )

Is a pretty decent output. They might embellish some things, but you people whine about everything.

I have ran the stats of these things already as a FEC player.

They're fucking weak if you can gain the ground.

>>52691270
>denying LoS to the fuckheug flying hovering above the table
So long, space cowboy.

>>52686439
I am definitely going to have at least one mortar team in my army. If anything because I think it is a neat idea.

>>52686524
Remember they can shoot on the same turn they disembark as well, so a unit of Decksweepers or Fumigators might be able to do some damage if dropped in the right place.
5 D6 4/4 -1 shots can be pretty scary for a hoard army.

You could drop them off in range of some fast moving unit that decided to get on the objective early, shoot them, then next turn hop back on the boat and move away again.
Actually, if the Gunhauler can carry troops, this could be an amusing tactic.

>>52686878
They can self heal, be healed even more by a hero, and on stream they said that the gunhaulers can take damage for them, so presumably that means they have a similar rule to the Spirit of Durthu.

>>52686294
Given the Ironclad has a cap of 20 guys, It's probably a safe bet the Frigate can carry 10 models. Stuff a MSU Arcanaut Company with light skyhooks in a frigate, rush up a flank and deploy the company into some terrain with decent visibility. Now you can attack the enemy monsters or heroes with a couple of really powerful shots from the light skyhooks while a whole bunch of reasonable small arms fire makes any push to remove them at least unpleasant.
Meanwhile, the frigate can either loiter in the area and provide firesupport, or can go off to harass the enemy elsewhere and murder targets of opportunity.

>>52691277
>Hide Courier behind some Crypt Horrors.

GG mr "Waaaaah something shoots it's OP"

It's fucking movement 8".

If it goes full mines, it's not got full Regen, if it's got full regen, it's not got full mines.

>>52690665
He got like 230 wounds at 2000 points.

>>52691299
Given that the relics that in some way change transport rules all explicitly exclude the Gunhauler it's probably a safe bet to assume it can't carry models.
What I want to know is how the ships count against warmachines; in particular the gunhauler.

>>52691358
Take the Skryre battalion then, maybe some shitty clanrats to make a screen and hold him in place

No need to feel bad about taking at least 6-9 Stormfiends. forget the Acolyes, get some Ratling guns, some flamers, jezzails, Ikit Klaw, etc

>>52691130
He probably wanted the evil faction to be white to match the real world.

>>52691322
>If it goes full mines, it's not got full Regen, if it's got full regen, it's not got full mines

Huh why ? mines are given with equipments and op regen is given throught synergies with heroes.
Or do you mean on should not do that if he respect his opponents ?

>>52691545
>I know, I'll put Equipment AND a pocket healer on this one ship that has only 18 wounds and 4+ save

Thanks for the free 500 point kill.

>>52691572
? equipment is free/standard.
The hero is good on his own and add synergies.

Sure this looks bad.

Its 300 point max, dont worry

>>52691572
Equipment is free

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>>52691609
He just revealed himself as a WHFB troll

>>52691572
>Paying for equipement

u wot ?

>>52691609
>>52691604
>>52691626


>Equipment is free

Pretty sure Equipment are like Artifacts, unless I am incorrect; you can only have a few per army.

Either way, it's still alot of eggs in one basket for a glorified artillery piece.

>>52691616
>Your're not whining about the rules
>WHFB TROLL REEEEE

>>52691634
>Pretty sure Equipment are like Artifacts, unless I am incorrect; you can only have a few per army.

Bro... all the mines are included. just look at the damn warscroll just above.

>>52691616
Equipment and Artifacts are free, what are you talking about?

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>>52691634
>Like artefact

Okay so you are NOT a whfbtroll but you dont know that only heroes can have artefact ?

>>52691277
>I can kill 5000 points very easily with only some battleline but you cant kill any of my toys with any of yours because mommy says i am the best

-every /aosg/ troll ever

>>52691671
Actually, in this case, there are special artefacts for the airships as well, called "Great Endrinwork".

Either way, there is no rule saying you can't have multiple of the same artefact in an army, so until we see otherwise, we have to assume it is the same story here.

>>52690962
>It's not like It's Phoenix Guard
200 points for 10 1 wound 4+4+, 2A,3+3+R-D1 is not very good.

>source me I have lots of them.

>>52691706
he will also conveniently dodge the other 5 small frigates looking to snipe every ghouls hero easily anyway.

Dont you see FEC is literraly top tier ?

>>52691671
Literally nothing right now is pointing towards Equipment being a "Everyone gets one" pool and works more like Artifacts.

So yeah, Waste your Artifact on a single ship, waste another hero slot and points to keep it up, and then watch as all your eggs in one basket die to focus fire.

Which shows because Overlords seem to have pretty shitty units save for shooting.

So simply tool against shooting.

>>52691706
One per Army, plus one per formation I am guessing, multiples would be fine. The Mine Endrinwork seems like a trap anyway.

>>52691723
dont worry kid, your terrorgeist alone is more eggs into one basket than the megaboat

>>52691718
>It's not super loaded with -Rend and Mortal wounds so it's shit.

They are point for point some of the strongest Infantry in the game.

Halberds with 3+ 3+ with spear range is great, and they're defensively tough as fuck.

>>52691745
>Pssssh Kid

And yet people are acting like megaboat is going to rape the Entire game than a terrorgiest does.

Hell, even as Soulblight meme

>Fly bat Swarms into it to pop mines
>Fly Dragon Lord into it

Why is the Witch Aelves box so expensive?

>>52691720
I was just correcting his mistake about the artefacts, since it isn't common knowledge that the dorfs have some for the boats as well.

I am not getting involved in your stupid argument.

>>52690961
I get them regularly, but I prefer to flush them down rather than keeping them.

>>52691720
So let me get this straight.

You people seem to think the boats can "Snipe" things and fly about the battlefield unhindered... at what? 10" speed maximum?

The only one with mines is the big Battleship, and it seems quite easy to focus fire down each boat and it's support with said counters.

You people are literally whining "But they can shoot" Like you people never encountered shooting in AoS before.

>>52691747
if we are comparing them to the legacy armies that haven't been updated then sure, ill give it to you. But you have to admit they are no where near the power level of the new stuff.

>>52691787
>Why is the Witch Aelves box so expensive?

keeps the undesirables out. also they are some of the most detailed and well sculpted models in the whole GW range. good luck painting those bikinis on models half the size of a SC trooper.

>>52691857
I wanted the Aelves for an Amazon Blood Bowl team, but they're so fucking expensive I might reconsider

>>52691787
cus its an old warhammer set and some of the prices were/still are in certain relation to their punch/pointcost on the tabletop. Newer stuff has gotten cheaper recently (they even reboxed the 5man stormcast boxes into slightly more expensive 10man ones) but usually your mook choices are considerably cheaper than the elite Variants even tho there isnt more plastic or detail on them a good example is Graveguard and skellies, their only difference is that the graveguard have armor on their bodies and glaives instead of spears, but they cust 50% more as theyre twice as powerful on the tabletop

>>52691857
They're comparable to Hearthguard Berzerkers easily, and come out better.

>>52691884
id argue with you using math but you wouldn't believe me anyways.

>>52691905
>Better Morale
>Roughly the same Defences
>You get 10 for the points cost, Hearthguard get 5.
>Slightly worse attack but can get more hits in.

So what maths exactly?

>>52691884
>They're comparable to units from the shittiest non-legacy army so desperate for buffs they are getting pts drops all across the board in the GHB2


I'm not that guy and i don't know anything about Elves but this sounds more like an insult to them

>>52691942
What other 1 wound elite units can I compare them to?

>>52691973
If they are 3+/3+ with good range then maybe Stormvermin. Vermin have presumably worse defense, but a nice -1 rend though.

Just strikes me as funny to compare anything to a Fyreslayer when the army is so weak

>>52691765
>He plays batswarm
>VL on ZD is too much eggs in 1 basket and will be 100% shot off the board T1, like every ZL in existence ever

nice meme

>>52691765
>Fly bat Swarms into it to pop mines

No. The dorf choose when mines pop.
But you are too retarded to read the fucking thing.

>>52691322
>Hide Courier behind some Crypt Horrors.
>Then cry when Courier is shot over the Crypt Horrors because True LoS with airborne models cucks infantry
lel

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>>52686499
>>52686521
You speak the truth, brothers! Now, let us do awesome vampire things like the vampires we truly are.

>>52691973

Greatswords are the epitome of 1 wound elite infantry, especially with their general nearby

I'm brand new to AoS and Warhmmer in general so I've never seen a new army release before, but does GW normally release brand new factions with so few kits? It feels like there are just 5 or 6 kits. I guess if I look at the amount of Stormcast Eternals and Fyreslayers kits, both didn't seem to have a ton of options at launch either.

What's the release schedule like for models in new armies?

>>52692241
Normally done over 2 or 3 weeks.

>>52692241

They usually release them over a few weeks

Stormcasts have a ton of options, the boxes tend to have multiple options.

Fyreslayers aren't a huge faction in general

>>52692213
How durable are Greatswords, across unit size and point values? I assume that 20 at 1000 are a real force to be reckoned with, but how about 10 at 1000? And do the 20 at 2000 still do the same job?

>>52692213
>Greatswords
Saurus Guard are better

>>52692307

Free guilds as a whole are glass cannons once their synergies come into play

Greatswords are 160 for 10 which is 16 points per wound at a 4+ armor save, for contrast liberators are 200 for 10 wounds which is 20 points per wound at a 4+ armor save with a reroll.

So for infantry they're somewhere in the middle for durability for cost, where they shine is that it's trivial to make them each have 2 attacks at 2+/2+/-1/1 which is about as good as you can get from infantry

>>52692303

Yeah, I guess I was directly comparing them to Fyreslayers because I wanna start a new dwarfy army.

>>52692356

Saurus guard are great, they're a bit more expensive for a LOT more armor and a bit less damage. They're absolutely a wonderful choice and both are probably in the top 5

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>>52692375

Fyreslayers are in a weird spot where they're getting a good points rework but they just cost so much $$ to make their big units.

Kharadrons on the other hand don't seem like they'll be all that much more $$ than a normal army, depending on the points cost of their boats

>>52692373
Alright, so they make a hilariously killy unit for mulching in melee, but never something you'd want to use to screen gunlines over disposable 10-20 man blobs of Guard with Sword and Board?

>>52692411
Big boat's the size of a Baneblade in length and width, but hilariously fatter. I'll allow you to guess how much they'll rape your wallet.

>>52692422

If you have all your battleline needs taken up by handgunners or crossbows feel free to take as many as you like, greatswords cost less than liberators on a per wound basis and do more than double the damage. Plus counter charge is fun as fuck

>>52692241
In the end, there'll be about 12 different units when it's all released.

>>52692422

Guard with sword and boards are legitimate speed bumps but greatswords are cheap for what they do, they are optimal counter charge units though

>>52686396
>>52686439
I just noticed how scary these things look when used together.

A unit of 5 with Aethercannons with the Khemist can do a shit ton of damage to whatever it hits.

I think the Mortar could be an interesting choice to use against the long range elite units every army seems to get now, since although it doesn't have rend, the volume of attacks and damage might just be enough, since those units tend to be small in model count.

>>52692538
Fair enough. I was planning on just screening Handgunners with disposable Guard, but I suppose it couldn't hurt to see if I have the points to plop down a unit of Greatswords in the center of the bunker, at the expense of trimming the Guard down from tarpit to speedbump.

>>52688840
I fucking KNEW Attila sucked balls. Thanks for the Intel anon. Every time I tell those fuckwads how bad and how shitty Attila was they never listen to me. All the old die hard TW fans wanted old complicated features back in the game that added nothing of value except complexity for the sake of complexity and lo and behold the sales are a compelling point. Add in the worst optimized Total War of all time to this day and you have perhaps the worst of the modern TW. I know Rome 2 was worse at launch, but now all patched up and with the support it had its magnificent.

>>52692603
It's good damage but there's a lot of weaknesses to that plan

>4+ hit
>12" range
>4" move
>die to a stiff breeze

>>52692664
Why did you make a gun label picture when you don't know what you are talking about.

What you have marked as the "Grundstok Mortar" is the Aethercannon. What you have marked as the Aerthercannon is a regular Aethershot Rifle.

The Gruntstock Mortar isn't pictured there, but it is in White Dwarf. It is basically a bulky M7 Grenade Launcher.

>>52692603
Why would you ever take Aethercannons instead of a Mortar for something like that? The cannons are basically trash for anything outside of Disembarking and shooting. A five-man unit paired with a khemist, however, is tossing out 10 shots at 36''. And given that they're mortars, I wouldn't be surprsied to see the indirect fire ability tossed onto them as well.

>>52692664
This is wrong.

>>52692720
This is right.

>>52692693
Both the unit and the Khemist can go on a ship.

Khemist is allowed to buff, and they are allowed to shoot, as well as move on the same turn they get off the ship (since they disembark in the Hero phase), meaning that unless your ship gets shot down, they will pretty much always get to shoot before they are shot at.

This also means the Ship can deploy them from 16 inches away, and then move afterwards to get itself out of enemy range for incase things don't go well.

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>>52692765
>unless your ship gets shot down

>>52692784
>Grundstoke Mortar strike intensifies.

Why is this army release turning AoS into a modern war?

>>52692664
you failed m8

>>52692784
>implying shitcast outshoot their OVERLORDS

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>>52692823

>>52692823
>teleports 24 inches behind you
>Psssh, nothing personal, kiddo

>>52692835
>Now THIS is podracing

Could I have a decent Tzeentch army with what came in Silver Tower?

>>52692835
>>52692784
>implying either of them can do enough damage to an Ironclad to bring it down
>laughingendrinmaster.exe

>>52692917
You make it sound like 9 wounds on a 4+ save is difficult.

I'm thinking of playing some AOS with models from my current collection - is the following list remotely capable? I understand that melee isn't in vogue right now.

>Orruk Megaboss (General) with 'bellowing tyrant', 'big and brutish'
>Moonclan Grot Shaman with 'Talisman of Protection'

>40 Moonclan grots with Spears and Shields (Battleline)
>30 Orruks with Spears and Hand Weapons (Battleline)
>5 Cave Squigs
>2 Squig Wranglers

>1 Giant (Behemoth)

>>52692932
you make it sound like shitcast can actually put 18wounds on an ironclad

>>52686854
ulrika went to shit after 1 bookshame

>>52692938
you should get at LEAST 1 shooting unit bro ..

>>52692664
Epic fail

>>52692949
They can easily do that

Are you new to this game?

>>52692932
It has 18 wounds and can heal a wound every turn. Plus another D3 wounds if the Endrinmaster is onboard. Plus another 1 if it has the Self healing hull.

>>52692983
They can't, kid.

>>52692987
Note: you can have more than 1 master on board.
Also, the master doesnt need to be onvoard to heal the thing

>>52692997
They can

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>>52686398
>>52686294
Considering the unit in a vacuum, just by what's on its card, I believe the Volley Gun is a better choice.

>>52693017
nice proofs

>>52693017
>inb4 I target the Ironclad sittting in the open

Thise shitcast didnt kill any slaan, they wont kill an ironclad.

>>52693039
What about if we involve a Khemist, which increases the attacks by 1.

Obviously that has more of an effect on the Skyhooks, and if it is effective it could be a decent choice of target for the buff.

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>>52693039
if you are bored.... pic related

>>52693106
I'll explore it and tell you the results

>>52692938
Hate to meme, but this list is basically the AoS equivalent of "Dies to Lightning Bolt." While the Klan might take a while to shoot down, the rest of that army is just going to fall away if your opponent has any kind of gunline.


>>52692987
It has 18 wounds and can heal every Overlord Hero Phase. If you're facing anything capable of 9+ wounds in one turn, you are staring down a 50/50 chance that it gets popped without ever getting to respond. And 9 wounds in one turn is far from extraordinary. Combine assorted shooting and then some melee from some heavy cavalry? P O P

>>52693232
The heavy cavalry that the Overlord player let get in range, presumably for fun I am guessing.

>>52693232
>Le charging something important turn 1 meme

found the bronze league

>>52693298
Yeah of course your Ironclad will be within charge range.
Just like people charge slaan turn 1...

>>52693061
Good luck hiding that giant flying turd behind scenery or models