Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1437: Move Bitch, Get Out The Way Edition

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How can I get all the lantern rings /jc/?

>>52660369
Yellow and Green in Injustice, Blue and Red in GLTAS, and then Sapphire in DC. You'll have to get Orange on your own.

>>52660045
The funny thing is, that by doing this, they've made the essence of women responsible for all kinds of atrocities. It made sense in the past that channeling the power of the demonic elder god of chaos warped Wanda's mind. Now it means that the power that stems from women actually drives people insane.

>>52660087
Exactly.

>>52660390
>Blue and Red in GLTAS
Those are very much a pale imitation of the real deal.

>>52660372
Alright, just stop honking your fucking horn. It's not like I can control the goddamn traffic.

>>52660372
>This is addressed to a certain namefag.
But you hate so many namefags, Timmy.

>All that Marvel fuck ups last thread

Was...was that the future that Dr.Doom saw?
The one that gave him the desire to take over the world to save it?

>>52660408
Marvel is run by insane monkeys at this point.

>>52660372
Let me guess you mean Anonymous.
Well I have news for you he's not going anywhere and there's nothing you can do to change that.

>>52660415
Well for the Blue, it doesn't matter because it's only real purpose is boosting your Green and Fist said that still functions the same as in the comics.

Red, well, you'll just have to make do. It's not so bad since the show version doesn't replace your blood with boiling construct juice that means you die if you lose the ring or the charge goes out.

>>52660390
>What is Indigo

>>52660439
Banjo is the SJW. I can't remember anything from justice that sounded like that particular brand of cancer.
He likes waifus too much to be in the same tier as a numale.

>>52660435
Maybe.

>>52660435
Little did Dr. Doom know that no matter how based you are you can't beat the people that write the story.

>>52660449
>Fist said that still functions the same as in the comics.
Wait, really? So Blue is pretty much one of, if not the best option in that jump?

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>>52660435
Oh yeah, by the way, Doom is also Iron Man now.

>>52660439
If there are any actual SJWs in this thread I assume they are on the lower end of the crazy idiot side of that nonesense. I can even prove this.

Timmy/his even less intelligent clones are the thread's biggest problems.That wouldn't be possible if we had some real potato level SJWs around.

>>52660449
>replace your blood with boiling construct juice
nigga that's the main appeal of being a Red Lantern.

>>52660439
>>52660440
Literally posting at the exact same time. Hmm... Is this a sign?

>>52660499
This is stupid but I inherently approve of anything that gives Doom more stuff to mess around with.

>>52660440
Monkeys are fun. Marvel is being the opposite of fun right now.

>>52660499
That...actually sounds kinda cool.
...how did they fuck it up. I know they have had to in someway.

>>52660499
That's cool though. He can stay doing that.

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>>52660468
Just let him think he's bothering me anon.

>>52660499
I want to say "That's fucking retarded". But I'm biased, and my love of DOOM prevents me from accepting how stupid this is.

>>52660527
Fair point.

>>52658252
Not that anon, but orbiting a black hole would also look metal as fuck from the outside.
It'd seem normal on the surface, but anyone watching your planet would see it twist and morph as it went around the black hole, due to the warping of spacetime.
>>52658472
Well now I feel justified for every time I've gone outside and flinched from how bright the Sun is.

Also, while the sanest answer is that they'll eventually figure out the math behind the why the Sun is so intense, wouldn't it be sort of fucking awesome if one day a horde of giant space monsters just flew out of the Sun? Like the Sun was just an incubation nest for them?

>>52660439
>innovations
Kek. Also, you're probably thinking of Yorokonde.

Kekistan jump when?

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>>52660572

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>>52660530
Reminder that Doom skinned the love of his life to sell her soul to demons just so he could get the power to fuck with the F4.

>>52660594
That was retarded. Much like Peter making a deal with actual Satan.

>>52660572
Is liking steven universe really so bad?

Actually don't answer that I already know.

>>52660532
That makes me think of the Xeelee Cycle, where it turns out the ultimate reason for the Xeelee's actions was to prevent that. They failed. But there's a big reveal that the reason that our sun is so bright is because dark matter monsters, the "photino birds", are artificially aging it because they live inside stars (well, the regions of the dark matter medium that are influenced by a star's gravity, anyway) and they want to cause them all to decay into dim dwarf stars ahead of schedule to provide better living conditions. Eventually the photino birds take over the entire baryonic universe and age all stars to darkness, and the only survivors are those who escape through the Xeelee's gateway to new universes. Most of which are kind of shitty, like the hyper-gravity universe. That one sucks.

>>52660582
What, like a generic social media jump?

>>52660633
Sucks for humans I guess

>>52660713
but muh human slavery.

what was the most awkward moment in your chain and why?

>>52660720
Slavery isn't defensible from the slave's point of view no matter what you're doing with them.

>>52660695
No like a jump where certain memes are real and the social media wars are actual wars, "The Kekistani government stands by our amphibian allies regardless of these absurd accusations".

>>52660746
That's real life, anon. We're living that right now.

>>52660746
So... Generic Virtual World? It's more "memes are real" than anything approximating a "generic virtual world".

>>52660721
Thanks to some mistakes on my part and a certain drawback all the main characters in the Kamen rider jumps learned about my jumper nature and how I could have easily solved all of their problems without anyone dying. So it made for an awkward and violent birthday party.

>>52660721
The first time I met Diarmuid I threw up on him because I was piss drunk at a party. Which was awkward because I went to Ireland in the first place to woo him.

I salvaged it by demanding to fight him in single combat on the spot when I got sober. I beat him and we hit it off pretty well afterwards/

>>52660734
What are Twileks?
What are House Elves?
What are Elves in general?
What are the Shamoians?
And any other group/individual who quite enjoys the slavery?

Politician jump when? I want to be president!

>>52660713
Yes. Them and every other life form in existence.

>>52660720
Nah, that was the Fish and the Qax who enslaved humans. The Xeelee were mostly apathetic to us, they only got involved with us when we involved ourselves. We're the ones who attacked them, just because we were too scared of what these godlike aliens might do. And then when we started using truly terrifying acausal weapons to fight them, they retreated rather than escalate the conflict. But even then they left behind automated ships to take us to the Ring and bring us to salvation should the Photino Birds win. The Xeelee are just fine, there's no good reason to hate them other than xenophobia.

>>52660803
Metal Wolf Chaos.
Be the best president there ever was.

>>52660799
Those groups don't include humans, anon. Those are all species that were created or became fetishists for their own slavery.

>>52660746
Sounds like something you would have to make yourself.

>>52660821
There are a few individual humans who would enjoy it, more if a BDSM enthusiast jumper with the normal (excessive) amount of charisma perks shows up.

>>52660821
House Elves are based off of Brownies, or at least bare insane resemblances to them. That isn't fetishizing their slavery, that is their actual nature. Fish swim, birds fly, Brownies clean.

>>52660746
Eclipse Phase is kind of like that.

>>52660803
a shame no one actually made a 2016 election jump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b89d1oip7WM&t=82s

>>52660086
When did Red Skull become a hero?

>>52660860
Don't Brownies get really fucking pissed off if you mistreat them or don't give them food, though? I imagine that treating them like most wizards treated house elves would earn you their wrath real quick.

>>52660921
Yes, and Dobby got really fucking pissed off when he was mistreated.
We don't see any other House Elves besides him outright mistreated. Brainwashed sure, at least in one case, that getting their head lopped off was an honorable thing. And tossed out on their ass in another, but only Dobby was actually abused.

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>>52660900
Unfortunately he's just playing the crowd.
The next fucking page is him strapping bomb vests to those people so they can go blow themselves up on minorities.
It's dumb as hell, but then again Marvel is literally gassing their minority stand in so I don't think they really get what is and isn't a good idea.

>>52660946
There's Creature, but he supports your argument in that his response to what he saw as 'abuse' was to actively sabotage his master.

>>52660921
Not exactly, in myth it's hard to actively interact with brownies, and they don't want to interact with you, they also don't need to be feed, they are just more likely to do more work if you give them food as gifts(if it's a payment they hate that and leave), house elves are closer to hobs in some ways though(as you get rid of hobs by giving them clothes). Hobs though are evil little shits if you offend them, brownies just leave.

Either way though house elves are actually better to have than a mythological brownie or hob. Though hobs have healing powers iirc.

>>52660996
Kreature was only outright 'abused' by Sirius, who hated his guts because he was a reminder of his shitty childhood, and yes he did actively sabotage Sirius. He was brainwashed sure, but from what we see/are told it seems he was very well treated by the Blacks, especially Regulus.

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Anons, how to I kill Mutant Hitler in Valley of The Lost Dinosaurs if I took the power sealing drawback? A lot of explosives?

>>52660594
Remind me to slap his shit if I end up in a universe where that's canon. I seriously can't see him doing that, but wasn't his whole thing basically 1) wanting Sue Richards, 2) making fun of Reed Richards, and 3) wanting to free his mother from Hell? That's some bullshit right there. And by bullshit I mean shit-tastic characterization.

>>52660499
...Why?

>>52661026
Didn't Doom recently end up in bed with someone else close to Reed recently?

>>52661025
Preferably gun that shoots explosives, but you should take what you can get.
I don't think you're going to be able to do it without crashing something big into him or blowing him up and setting the rest on fire.

>>52661057
Johnny Storm?! But no seriously I have no idea, I stopped following the comics because the writers can't even portray someone with the depth of a puddle in a desert.

>>52661047
>"Fuck you, that's why."-Some guy at Marvel, probably

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>>52660618
Hey man. I like Steven Universe. It's a show all about love and understanding and people trying their best despite sucking and then everyone cries and sings about it.
SJWs don't do any of that. I have never heard a SJW sing a song about how beautiful the world is. They're all about hate and tearing things down to feel better about their own shitty lives.

In Steven Universe, any given character's worst enemy is that character themselves.
Marvel conversely has to try to radically rewrite characters to scream profanities so their other characters look better by comparison, and they STILL manage to fuck that up.

So, y'know. Fuck them. Fuck SJWs. They ruin everything. Including the fanbase.
Really says something that none of them give a shit about Marvel.

>>52661025
Just never stop exploding him and attacking in every single way available to you. If you have bombs, use those. If you have knives, use those. If you have allies, use those. If you have enemies, use those. All the resources of the valley from soul burning powder to alien spaceship fleets, use those. Make it bombastic and fun.

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>>52661025
Rig the entire valley with explosives.

>>52661026
No. Doctor Doom's thing is being a sociopath. His mother was the only person he genuinely cared for, everyone else is just a prop in his own personal story. Even his hatred of Reed is more because it suits his preferred narrative to have a nemesis to rail against than any real hate. So I can see him killing Valeria for power. What I can't see is him wearing armor made out of her skin, because that's not good for his image. Men defined by their pride and vanity do not wear creepy dead-girlfriend skinsuits.

>>52661108
>His mother was the only person he genuinely cared for,
Lies, he loves his God-daughter. He STARTED OUT only caring for her as a way to spite Richards, but he legitimately cares about her by this point.

>>52661084
The problem is that when someone does something they don't like, they get attention by yelling about it. Marvel is assuming that people who yell about it are also buying comics. They aren't. So they're just alienating their established customer base for absolutely nothing.

>>52661108
Oh. Well. Fuck. I'll just impose a moral framework on him with magic while making an unrelated deal with him then, because fucking Doom needs to stop being a tool. Wasted potential.

>>52661057
No, actually it is Reed that is sleeping with Doom's mother.

>>52661134
Oh, true, I forgot about her, Mostly because Valeria Richards is so boring I barely remember she exists most of the time. Same with Franklin. The Richards children are pretty forgettable.

>>52661137
Doom, like many many MANY characters in comics, waffles. Sometimes he's more likable than Richards, and a legitimately better person
Sometimes he's baby-eatingly evil just to show "look! He's actually the bad guy!".

Different people prefer different interpretations. I like "Egomaniac, who is a massive prick(and still a monster in his own right), but still a good Ruler and a better person than Richards" Doom.

>>52661166
I'm seconding that interpretation.

>>52661172
Yes, Doom is exactly what little Wizard Hitler wanted to be when he grew up.

>>52661166
I think most people prefer that interpretation, actually.

Well, most of the people in /jc/, anyway.

>>52661187
What do you think the Death Eaters' costumes were based on? The only difference is that they're black cloaks and not green.

>>52661166
I prefer "worse person than Richards, but is much better at functioning as a good person than Richards is". They're both awful people, but while Reed is less awful, Doom is less likely to reveal his awfulness. It's because of that sociopathy. Doom's public image is very important to him, so even though he's a bad person he'll still do nominally good things like enrich the lives of Latverians. Reed, on the other hand, doesn't care what anyone thinks about him, so while he's not as bad as Doom, he doesn't put in the effort to hide it.

>>52661166
>a better person than Richards
Not exactly setting the bar too fucking high there, are they?
Reed Richards is useless.
Hydra-tized Captain America is a better person than Richards.

>>52661204
That's fair.

>>52661205
I never said I was setting the bar high.

Where can I find the manga for yojo senki?

Or are those images I saw a few days ago from the LN's?

>>52660582
P R A I S E S H A D I L A Y

How powerful is the Sovereign of sorrow?

>>52660889
But Trump is already one of the easiest people to companion in the chain. That and he comes with powers of Godhood and a Stand

>>52661204
That DOES create some interesting character study. Who is the better person? The man who is more virtuous but still does not feel the need to help others or act decently, or the man who is more of a monster but takes pains to hide it and aids others so that he will appear more human?

The answer is Doom.
The answer is always Doom.

>>52661149
Okay. I. No. I officially have no response for this. Just nothing.

Just none.

>>52661204
>nominally good things like enrich the lives of Latverians
Well that's the thing, the Latverians specifically can be viewed from yet another lens.
He takes care of his people, and ensures they are healthy and happy, not because he's a good person. But because from his point of view, they are HIS they belong to HIM, like property. And one should always take good care of their things.

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>>52661336
Right after she revealed herself to Doom as being alive.

>>52661361
Do you want the world destroyed? Because this is how you get Doom to blow the fucking world up.

>>52661361
Goddammit, anon. I was repressing that just fine right up until now.

>>52661305
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpgLDjLwego
1:06

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>>52661370
I'd back Doom's destruction of the world due to this bullshit.

>>52661400
I kind of want to see what Doom would do in Worm, now.

Wonder did there are any readable fanfics about that?

>>52661361
Good and evil are relative, but being a dick cannot be allowed.
Doom might be evil, but Richards is the biggest dickhead in Marvel.
Doom might do a lot of fucked up things, but he's never fucked his nemesis' mom. What the fuck.

>>52661383
Mario's voice actor has incredible range.
Just saying.

>>52661400
I'm not sure that's what you meant to upload, but I approve of it.

>>52661383
It's better to be born good, obviously. If you're born good, you start out doing good things. If you're born bad and learn to defy your inherent nature, then you do bad things and have to make up for them. Even if you work that debt off and start doing good, you'll still have done less good overall than someone who started out that way.

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>>52661361
Is that 616 Richards or ultimate Richards who is even more of a dick?

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>>52661400
You know, I want to say some variant of the "that's not justice" line, but if ANY world deserved destruction just due to levels of sheer concentrated bullshit, it's probably Marvel.

>>52661448
If that's Ultimate Richards, then yeah, that is a world beyond saving. Evacuate the civilians, most of the rest can burn.

>>52661448
A mercy killing can be Justice, anon.

>>52661466
Or even just Miles Morales. He's basically the only good part of the Ultimate Universe.

>>52661410
>readable fanfics
Not really.
There's one call THE TECHNO QUEEN, in which Taylor gets a Tinker power that can do some Doom-style stuff, but she just goes Saturday Morning Villain with it. And does backhandedly heroic stuff.

Lung becomes a cowboy sheriff. Sheriff Lung. In chaps. And a Stetson.

The entire thing is completely insane. Good for a laugh, though.

>>52661489
>spoiler
I... I'm going to require some more explanation here, anon.

>>52661489
Eh, if I wanted a laugh I'd read one of Red's jumps.

>>52661487
Well, cardboard can't be good or bad.

>>52661424
Paarthunax isn't speaking of who generates the most good. Think about it, why would it make any sense that someone born evil does more good than someone born good, assuming both individuals have about the same agency.

No, what he's talking about is which takes more personal strength. Is it better to simply follow your nature unthinkingly, or to defy your inborn nature to be a better person?

>>52661410
There was a fanfic where Taylor was basically a fusion of Doom, Magneto, and Railgun, it wasn't very good, and died before it really got off the ground though.

>>52661422
It is, mostly because I lack many Doom images.

>>52661448
Even my detractors approve of my opinion here!

>>52661487
Miles Morales may be a good person, but he is one of the most boring people imaginable.

>>52661489
TECHNO QUEEN is amazing.

>>52661510
It's a long and complicated story, that includes things like "turning all food into asparigas" "A beam that swaps your gender" and "Clockblocker and THE TECHNO QUEEN'S children being sent back in time, and almost fucking up their parents getting together"

>>52661510
You can read it here: https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/the-techno-queen-worm-au-humour-with-extra-ham-cheese.300011/

The arcs literally called Ham, Cheese, Silver Age, and Cliche.

>>52661542
That honestly sounds great. Like some Silver Age style complete nonsense.

>>52661549
I would, but my free time is actually being spent reading Marvel for the jump.

Send help.

>>52661562
Can the magical power granted by Vestments of Fate/Freedom be used to enhance your non-Order Magic? If, theoretically, you were to give the possessing Lord its own body, would it render the artifact a useless trinket?

>>52661583
The only cure for having to read Marvel is your body weight in bleach, taken orally in one dose over the course of 5 minutes.

>>52661583
There can be no help for the dead.

Even if you still draw breath, it's only a matter of time now.

>>52661583
Just be happy that you don't have to read the awful squirrel girl comic for anything.
My god was that a train wreck.

No matter how bad things get with what you're reading. Take solace in the fact that it could be worse.

>>52661602
>Can the magical power granted by Vestments of Fate/Freedom be used to enhance your non-Order Magic?
Maybe? Anything channeled through it would probably count as Order magic and something too "chaotic" would probably just noto work right, though.

>If, theoretically, you were to give the possessing Lord its own body, would it render the artifact a useless trinket?
No. In DoV, Nabu is killed but the Helm retains its ability to empower people.

Also, I'm pretty sure I described it as being the "ghost of a long dead Lord" or something. So no, you won't have someone to whisper magical knowledge to you, but it won't make it useless.

>>52661610
>>52661633
Death refuses me.

I only want an end.

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HI THREAD. have a jump. critique wanted.

>>52661697
Cool! Not only are you not dead, but you returned with a jump for a long-awaited setting? I could kiss you right now.

>>52661674
...What did they do?

>>52661697
Hype!

>>52661697
Noice. Readan'

>>52661697
> with training they may extend their senses to see the entirety of a body of stone
What's this do, exactly? Is it "tremorsense"? Literally knowing how deep the rabbit hole goes? Something else?

>>52661697
Not a big fan of how much you conflate game mechanics with the way stuff works. There aren't really "motes" of mana in the stories, the mages just have a pool they draw from composed of the mana they can draw.

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>>52661774
Well aside from the fact that they beat her and the rest of the comic with an ugly stick disguised as an artstyle. I think I'll let this page speak for itself.

>>52661824
I'm choosing to believe that this is either her daydreaming or she's on an acid trip. Probably the latter.

>>52661806
This is a fair critisism. I put it in more as a way for me to measure how much your getting from lands and to give me milestones in my head. if there is enough push for it ill rewrite to further separate but it gives me a good frame of reference for what people can reasonably do with x amount.

>>52661824
...Can I just go back to reading about femThor now?

>>52661697
I'm a bit disappointed that most of the lands have a special effect of "summon elemental". That's not really your fault, you based them on cards that mostly just did that, but I would have liked more variety. Oh well. I'm mostly going to buy them to have cool properties following me around, anyway. The special effects are just a nice bonus, so I suppose it doesn't matter much.

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>>52661824
Friendly reminder we could have had this instead but they had to get that melting marshmellow artstyle because it was hip with the kids on tumblr.

Unbeatable Squirrel Girl makes me so fucking mad. I still want to like the character, but I have to consider the whole damn thing noncanon to do that.

>>52661824
God dammit Marvel Nappa

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>>52660408
>the power that stems from women actually drives people insane

...are we sure it hasn't ALWAYS been canon in Marveland?

The Star Sapphires and the Predator don't exactly-aaand I'm late for the Marvel roast.

>>52661697
Looks very solid! Few actual critiques, mostly comments and some unclarity in parts. Admittedly I'm not sure how to distinguish game mechanics from lore, though.

>3D Motion

Not the perk itself, but does the further discount refer to it being free or 50CP?

>Animist

I think a short description of what elementals are actually like could help

>Adapted to Change

How applicable/difficult is this to invert a particularly compolex spell, like using a spell that controls pure desruction to create something? I'd recommend some examples of when it might be impossible and/or increasingly difficult to invert a spell.

>A Feast for the Gods

How does this work in worlds without mana-do you simply have to supply your own?

>A Devoted Dagger

Not sure if because WIP, but it could use a nice fluff description like the other items

>Jace's Hubris

Hypothetically, if one has a means of killing the Eldrazi would doing so constitute failure of the scenario? Would sealing them, and then killing them constitute a win?

>>52661805
From what I know of M:tG it's basically magic sonar but for rocks

>>52661853
Fair enough. I wouldn't say rewrite it, maybe just slip in a quick note for clarification at the end of the jump?

Anyway, looks good so far.

>>52661883
>The Star Sapphires
That's DC

>>52661878
>Not using this version
MARVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL!

>>52661878
They both look like shit, desu.

>>52661697
No special conditions for the Blind Eternities? So what, you're just going to give in to the powerwankers?

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>>52661911
Trust me. Anything is better than what we got.

>>52661697
Any chance you'd include a more expensive companion option for Planeswalkers?

Nissa a shit, Chandra's where it's at.

>>52661824
>beat her and the rest of the comic with an ugly stick
Nice ass, though.

>>52661935
So, confirmed for Squirrel Girl tripping on drugs?

>>52661935
What the actual fuck is this? Did they get a 10 year old to draw it?

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>>52661937
>thinking any nuwalker is worth giving the time of day
My boy dude. There's only one good red walker waifu

>>52661697
It's late, so I don't feel like giving thorough critique sorry, but here is a build if you'd like. I have like forty-ish Companions, and I would need to spend some time looking them over to see who would be most interesting to Import, so I don't have builds for them right this minute.


Zendikar
Origin: Merfolk Scholar Hermit (100cp)

Perks
A Good Eye
Lore Master (100cp)
Linked Together (200cp)
Lull/Roil Mage (300cp)

Companions
Old Friend (100cp)
Old Friend (100cp)

Items
Traveler's Boots
Kor Hooks
Architect's Kit (200cp)

Lands
Waterfront School (200cp)
Celestial Colonnade (200cp)

Drawbacks
A Grim Uncertainty (+200cp)
The Third Titan (+300cp)

Probably going to slot it in somewhere in the middle of my chain, probably around the 250-350 range. It'll be fun to beat Emrakul by cleansing the minds of those she has poisoned via a liberal application of OUT-OF-CONTEXT CLEANSING SONG AND INSTRUMENTATION PERKS AND GEAR/spoiler]. I like to craft my music by remixing and modifying various sounds from across the Multiverse. It'll be neat to see/hear what kind of tones I can wring out of the Roil.

>>52661935
They couldn't even splurge on South Park level art?

>>52661697
How long does it take a land to recharge after you tap it?

>>52661972
Whoops, messed up my second spoiler tags.

>>52661955
Some "progressive" non-binary artist. With skills of 10 year old. But gotta push that diversity.

>>52661969
Dammit, anon. Until we get a jump where Jaya is ar-

...I could use the Second Magic to go back in time. Well shit, now I need another pod.

>>52661697
Why do some of the lands say which colors of mana they produce but others don't?

>>52661987
You know, I wanted to doubt you, but then I spent literally two minutes in Google and found myself proven completely wrong. God damn it, Marvel.

>>52661878
That art is an affront to my eyes my sensibilities and good taste.

>>52661883
further discounts are explained right below perks it would be free to an elf guide i'll clarify better.

animist
your raising them from the environment where you are is what you get. eg. pile of dirt and trees with limbs in a forest, a serpent made of water in the ocean etc.

i shall add said clarifications to notes in greater detail with 5 or 6 examples

by jumpchan fiat you'll find mana in worlds after mtg jumps.

dagger is uurgh i will try

for the purposes of the scenario you cannot kill them.

>>52661697
Just realized my formatting got raped during conversion

>>52661884
Will do.

>>52661868
Prior to a recent edit there were 10 of those and none of the other lands when i had much the same thought you had and changed the background lands i do like the elementals however and they play a pretty large role in bfz which led 20 the current 5-6 split.
if anyone has suggestions for thematic lands i am likely to include them.

To everyone i respond to i apologize for my shitty grammar in my posts.

>>52662054
Are there people on Zendikar who could teach summoning magic?

>>52661920
COLLOSAL FACEPALM. This is why i wanted critique it slipped my mind thank you. i will need to add all the safeguards i added to innistrad forgot i'd need to do them again.

>>52662008
right this has reached the 1 too many fuckups stage. will sort that right now.

>>52661976
About an hour

Best tools for keeping track of chains?

>>52662108
In my opinion? Cherry Tree is everything you could possibly ask for, and it's dark blue so it doesn't hurt your eyes to stare at for long periods of time.

>>52662104
>COLLOSAL FACEPALM. This is why i wanted critique it slipped my mind thank you. i will need to add all the safeguards i added to innistrad forgot i'd need to do them again.
Nonono, do not do that, please. That's the shitposter trying to stir shit up. The thread just had a discussion on that the other day and none of the other jumpmakers are doing that. In fact, it'd be great if you removed it from Innistrad, too.

>>52662135
>In fact, it'd be great if you removed it from Innistrad, too.
Only the shitposter would make such bold demands.

>>52662104
Could you not? It's really wierd that you can't dimensional travel in Innistrad..
I can see mentioning that the blind eternities is like reality acid, but other than that I don't think you should.

>>52662108
You should probably use One Note or Cherry Tree and get into the habit of being neat and attentive with your bookkeeping, but I personally just store stuff in pastebin and back it up as .txts for safekeeping.

>>52662104
>to add all the safeguards i added to innistrad forgot i'd need to do them again.
I'd prefer if you didn't. It's kind of dumb to fiat that kind of thing, honestly.

>>52662104
>i will need to add all the safeguards i added to innistrad forgot i'd need to do them again.
If you do, can you just make it so that dimensional travel doesn't work instead of the odd "all your survival perks turn off" that it is currently?

>>52662104
>i will need to add all the safeguards i added to innistrad forgot i'd need to do them again.
So you're going to say that if someone used the Planar Bridge from Kaladesh to open a portal to Zendikar, that Jumper would auto die if they tried to go through it?

That's pretty stupid, desu.

>>52662155
>>52662163
>>52662209
I either do this or you can access all of mtg from any mtg jump. you cannot access 1 jump for another thats been a rule for ages. if i do not i will inevitably get shitstormed.

>>52662192
Fair point.

>>52662248
You could just say that people cannot enter other Planes through any means, instead of mentioning Perks or anything like that.

>>52661878
Western mainstream art styles have been outright foul since the 2000's, really.

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[Batman: The Animated Series]

Drawbacks: Extended Stay, Make 'Em Laugh, No Killing Rule, The Demon's Head, Rogue Gallery (1800)

Drop-In

Madman (Free)
Put A Smile On Their Faces (Free)
Multiple Choice Backstory (1700)
...And The Jumper Got Away! (1500)
One Bad Day (1300)
Joker Immunity (1000)
Mad Love (600)
Costume (Free)
Puddin's Pie (Free)
Jumper Industries (100)
...A Rock! (50)
Deranged Fan: Street Fighter, Specialist: Physics (0)

So, I know enough about Gotham to know one certainty: NOTHING EVER GETS ACCOMPLISHED by trying to change the place from the top-down.

The obvious solution? Start the jump by checking myself into Arkham and spend a year or two in rehabilitation! "Doc, ya gotta help me! I've gotta a terrible phobia of killing people, have I got a second personality that loves killing people? Probably calls himself the Terran Manhunter or something". Which is good PR in the long term-nobody ever suspects an Arkham success story to fall off the bandwagon again! Even better-all the crime is concentrated on one asylum instead of spread all over the city!

The only problem-my presence draws the mad like flies to honey. It's been awkward fighting Orderly Man while tied in a straightjacket when the chair I'm strapped to is my weapon of choice. Arkham becomes ground zero for a custard pie war between me, the Joker and Ra's' best ninjas. Who deeply regret their career choices.

I spend most of my time being "rehabillitated" by writing up criminal evidence and law enforcement technologies and mental healthcare plans, and giving them to the staff in exchange for good behavior.

Coincidentally, genius playboy billionaire Bruce Wayne suddenly takes an interest in the ramblings of a local madman right before the police make an unprecedented amount of clean arrests.

>>52661895
...I always mix those two up. Does the DCAU crossover with Marvel a lot? Because that's where most of my superhero lore comes from, at several removes.

>>52662248
Not, it's been a rule that you can't access jumps that are completely unrelated to one another. So you can't use Doormaker to get from Star Wars to Marvel, but it's totally fine to go from Marvel to the MCU or from DC to Young Justice. This is not different and is, in fact, even less of a big deal because of how interwoven the events of multiple Planes are to the storyline. It'd be like saying you're stuck on modern earth in the Doctor Who jump.

>>52662248
>you cannot access 1 jump for another thats been a rule for ages.
...Only if they're completely unrelated. It's always been cool to go from one jump's setting to another if they're actually connected in canon. And that's MtG's whole schtick.

>>52662292
>Does the DCAU crossover with Marvel a lot?
Uh, no? As far as I know, the DCAU has never crossed over with Marvel. And the crossovers with the main comics continuities are dubiously canon, at best.

>>52662292
No, there are no crossovers beyond a couple of the actual comics to my knowledge.

Though Marvel has been known to have their characters acknowledge that DC comics exists in their universe.

>>52662321
>>52662307
But then we either take down all the MtG Jumps but one or you end up with people being able to do whatever the hell they want in the universe for decades in a row.

>>52662339
And also Marvel blatantly stole Barry Allen when he died the first time (Back then heroes that died actually stayed dead for quite a long time) under the name "Buried Alien" and he showed up during a race of all the speedsters in the universe.

Buried Alien won hands down, and became a local superhero under some name or another that I can't remember at the moment.

>>52662347
>or you end up with people being able to do whatever the hell they want in the universe for decades in a row.
Oooohhhh noooooo, what ever shall we do?

And besides, that wouldn't even matter of the jumpmakers didn't offer intercontinental drawbacks. Everything would get reset and no changes would carry over.

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>>52662248
Why are we suddenly treating MtG as if each plane is like a seperate unrelated multiverse from each other.

I can understand not jumping from DC to Marvel or Ben 10 to 40k or something like that.
But why is jumping from place to place in the same local multiverse forbidden? In the current DC jump I can go to a huge number of worlds within the local multiverse. What's so special about MtG that it warrants such a "no dimension hopping to unrelated worlds" when they absolutely are?

>>52662347
That's not how this shit works. DC and Marvel jumps have shat over this line of thinking before it even began. Shut up.

>>52662248
>I either do this or you can access all of mtg from any mtg jump. you cannot access 1 jump for another thats been a rule for ages. if i do not i will inevitably get shitstormed.
Bruh, we just had a shitstorm about you /not/ allowing it with Innistrad the other day.

>>52662365
>>52662374
Oh yeah, I can sense this is going to be a productive argument. I'm out.

>>52662248
Guess Mardukth better put a note in Infernals about how it's impossible to get out of Malfeas. Otherwise he'll be intruding on other Exalted jumps.

>>52662054
>by jumpchan fiat you'll find mana in worlds after mtg jumps.
Can you use non-MtG mana for perks which interact with it? Like, the "free mana" in Manavore, for example?

>>52662355
>under the name "Buried Alien"
The fuck?

>>52662374
What even would you use to make the Jump? I mean the worlds of MtG are seperated by the Blind Eternities so you have to go through those right? Are there some Perks that I don't know about that allow you to make the travel without going into the Blind Eternities? What are they if so?

Is there any perk which prevents a supernatural ability or essence from "ejecting" out of you if you're not permanently dead? The type of thing that would normally leave upon your death, like Devil Fruits or Exaltations?

Would Drain No work? It seems like something of an edge case?

>>52662423
The DBC or Doormaker from Worm should be able to do it.

The Second Magic from Fate should also be able to do it.

Probably the Portal Gun from Rick and Morty, but that seems more risky.

Hero BBS magic could do it casually.

And there are /canon examples of doing so in MtG/. Hell, it was a major plot point in Kaladesh.

>>52662447
Not really, if the power just leaves of its' own accord rather than being actively siphoned.

>>52662407
The Silver Age was a silly time.

>>52662423
I think it's because on a meta Jumpchain Explanation level that The Blind Eternities are what makes it so you can't cross from one jump to another.

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>>52662423
I dunno senpai. I'm just noting the extra limitations are needless. If the Blind Eternities is so dangerous it's best to just warn about it and have the jumpers figure it out. Not strip them of their options "for your own safety lol" before they try. I don't really see a reason to put these "safeties" in when the setting naturally acts as an effective obstacle.

In some settings where dimension hopping casually is a thing. So I don't know what makes this special enough to warrant "Safeties" on top of the fuckery of the blind eternities.

>>52662482
He just seems to be afraid of backlash from allowing it for some reason.

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>>52662454
>The DBC or Doormaker from Worm should be able to do it.
Works on parallel world theory which is patently not how MtG Cosmogony works. You could jump to a parallel of the Jump you were in but not to another world entirely with it.
>The Second Magic from Fate should also be able to do it.
Again the above statement.
>Probably the Portal Gun from Rick and Morty, but that seems more risky.
See above.
>Hero BBS magic could do it casually.
This is the first thing that I can reasonably believe. Even then the casual use of magic by Wayfairer shows that you have to walk through the in between, which is nowhere near as bad as the Blind Eternities. I think Sage can aim a tunnel for that maid chick but that may be the long and short a level 8-9 can do.
>And there are /canon examples of doing so in MtG/. Hell, it was a major plot point in Kaladesh.
This is true, but I asked for examples of how you'd do it.

>>52662480
Huh neat but I was just asking how theyd do it.

>>52662482
So basically note a line like whatever Gaunlet said thread before last or so abouts. So dangerous it'll melt your perks before melting you or something right?

>>52662515
Seems excessively defensive but I guess it makes sense to him.

>>52662532
>Works on parallel world theory which is patently not how MtG Cosmogony works. You could jump to a parallel of the Jump you were in but not to another world entirely with it.
The one you can buy explicitly notes you can use it to reach other dimensions outside of parallel worlds with tinkering.

>Again the above statement.
Val was asked about it today and said it could be used to do so indirectly by jumping to another timeline and then reentering your original timeline in a different dimension.

>I think Sage can aim a tunnel for that maid chick but that may be the long and short a level 8-9 can do.
Well reaching level 10 isn't that hard for a jumper.

>This is true, but I asked for examples of how you'd do it.
Fair enough, I guess?

>>52662454
I will admit to not having read kaladesh because i got so colossally sick of the gate watch. i will go read it now as this shit may be important.

also to the many others commenting on in setting jump to jump travel this is actually a good point though it does feel wrong to me. mtg planes are fully functioning worlds that for the most part don't intersect.

i will think on it and discuss with merch, metal parts and whoever is working on kamigawa as they are making other mtg jumps. no promises either way on this one.

>>52662599
Well Metal Parts and Gaunlet (the guy working on Kamigawa) aren't banning it in theirs. Do what you will, though.

>>52662585
>The one you can buy explicitly notes you can use it to reach other dimensions outside of parallel worlds with tinkering.
Still not going to work since the other Planes are not dimensions of the Plane you're in.
>Val was asked about it today and said it could be used to do so indirectly by jumping to another timeline and then reentering your original timeline in a different dimension.
How would that do anything other than take you to an alternate history of the Plane you were in?
>Well reaching level 10 isn't that hard for a jumper.
As I pointed out the in between has to be passed through. Blind Eternities is the big problem I've yet to see you even acknowledge.

>>52662615
Isn't Gaunlet the one who said the Blind Eternities would melt your perks?

>>52662688
>not other dimensions
So what are they then? Are they just in the same dimension? Any of the suggested things or basic teleporting with no distance limits should get you there then.

>>52662688
>>52662710
This. Just use Greater Teleport from DnD. Done. God I hate it when you get protective whiners like that guy trying to puff up their fave setting.

>>52662688
>Isn't Gaunlet the one who said the Blind Eternities would melt your perks?
This makes no sense at all. So depending on what mtg jump you take a location may or may not kill you?

>>52662762
Perma kill you. Melts your perks means it gets rid of all your one ups and immunit stuff.

>>52661697
>either appearing at the nearest logical location, or as attachments to your warehouse

Can I make them appear where I want to instead? I usually don't want my properties precisely at my random start location.

>>52662775
Well yeah that's what I meant.

>>52662720
pretty sure plane shift is the right spell here but equally simple.

>>52662830
Pretty much this. The guy arguing for Magic stuff being impassable by out of jump stuff can't even get his own setting right. planes are different universes, not different bits in the one dimension. Anything that dimensions hops can do it easy.

ok got feedback by other mtg jumpmakers on planar travel travel ban is up but i am noting down that the blind eternities are reality acid basically but go nuts and wank responsibly.

>>52662710
>>52662720
All of MtG is in the same Multiverse. Time/Dimensional/Space/etc Magic are a thing. I don't think so but I guess it's up to each Jumper right?

>>52662830
Yeah that's ment to shift you through the Multiverse so it should work I think.

>>52662850
You may wish to check again >>52662532 here I state that Hero BBS Magic might be able to do it but the walk in between wouldn't solve the Blind Eternities problem. I haven't said that it's impossible just given reason why the methods given don't work.

>>52662873
Yay!

>>52662873
>>52662405 ?

>>52662873
Speaking sort of about the Blind Eternities, exactly how tough and scary are these Eldrazi things? I get they eat planes, but isn't a plane generally smaller than Earth?

>>52662947
Yes if its magic life energy stuff and there isn't an in setting reason you couldn't you can use other comparable substances for the perk.

>>52662970
Cool, thanks.

>>52662956
bala-ged was a full sized continent they ate through it in months and have reality warping affects locally gonna add notes on the eldrazi lieages to the jump. the titans are the larger side of kaiju and very durable.

>>52662956
Eldrazi are monsters beyond the usual kin of beasts. They're all either so tough they can just tank the Blind Eternities or they are all born innately with a New-Walker Spark. They eat everything about a plane in general, down to concepts. They're tough enough to get sealed instead of dead to a group of older New-Walkers.

As for the Plane thing... a few times we've been given hints that some Planes are full on galaxies and other Planes are just what we see. Kamigawa is the latter, I think.

>>52663006
Huh. I was very confused because I found out four planeswalkers were able to kill two when one of them hacked into Zendikar's leylines and burned it with their energy.

Aren't the Titans sort of finger puppets? How big is the real thing?

>>52661025
Got some of them power armours?

>>52663006
Another thing I just found out-a spirit dragon thinks the Eldrazi are actually vital for existence's survival. Also someone I asked on the M:tG forums said Emrakul implied there's something worse than Eldrazi coming for the planes.

Is this true? If so are there any hints what the latter might be?

>>52663021
ok they managed to do that to ulamog and kozilek they got shut down HARD trying the same in innistrad on emrakul. nahiri ugin and sorin didnt think they could kill them as old walkers. bfz is screwy in a lot of ways but they were using power similar to the conflux bolas wanted to use to regain his premending power so this wasn't a small amount of power being thrown about despite them being nu walkers.

Emrakul is also noted as being the strongest of the 3 both by wizards and the story and she fucked off before the final fight.

>>52663073
we currently have cryptic bullshit and only cryptic bullshit. i will be back later after doing edits to the jump.

>>52663107
I see.

Just read the writeup about Emrakul's sealing. Apparently she agreed to get into the moon. Huh.

>>52663116
Also, thanks

>>52663107
Didn't they only kill the Titan bodies, and not the full Eldrazi?

>>52663006
How big is Zendikar on the planes scale?

>>52663164
Something like killing their proboscis actually. http://mtg.gamepedia.com/Eldrazi

>>52663171
Be enlightened. ^

>>52663184
But the wiki says they drew the "bulk of the Titans" into the plane, implying they killed all of them not just the proboscis

Also the article doesn't mention how big Zendikar is. Guessing it's pretty hella buff if it's full of those anti-Eldrazi crystals, though.

I honestly don't know if I want to touch the travel ban in Kaladesh or New Phyrexia.
And i don't think any old walkers, even post - mending, would be happy about things coming in and out of New Phyrexia

>>52663338
I have no particular strong feelings either way, really. Do whatever you think best

And to be fair, fuckin' everything makes oldwalkers pissed off. Bunch of salty wizards.

>>52661080
Correct.

>>52662248
>I either do this or you can access all of mtg from any mtg jump. you cannot access 1 jump for another thats been a rule for ages. if i do not i will inevitably get shitstormed.

>>52662532
>So basically note a line like whatever Gaunlet said thread before last or so abouts. So dangerous it'll melt your perks before melting you or something right?


You're either doing this on purpose or you have no idea of what you're talking about.

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>>52663338
>Implying shitty old wizards are a threat to a seasoned Jumper

>>52664008
Tbh at the very least they're more of a threat than Scion or Gilgamesh

Well, any of the non-Extra Gilgameshes

>>52662873
>reality acid
So are the Warp or the Wyld.

And there are a few perks to survive in that kind of planes.

>>52664025
But with Zendikar, you could be a Eldrazi Phyrexian Walker.
Can you imagine the butthurt of the oldwalkers? It'd be Glorious
Become the Yagwmoth he never could have been

>>52664062
I...do not know what a Phyrexian is! So. I guess?! Really give those guys conniptions post-chain, I suppose. I mean I really only know about oldwalkers from back in the day when someone explained the jumpchain spark reward thingy.

>>52664052
Someone talked about this a while ago but basically the Blind Eternities sustain far less life than the Warp (which is swarming with all kinds of buggies adapted to living in it even apart from daemons, the odd ultramarines or primarchs and maybe a very pyromaniacal C'tan) and the Wyld (which is dangerous because it's made up of dreams and narratives)

>>52664091
okay after a decent chunk of double checking things I found I forgot I had a companion so here are updates to The bills where I forgot to import him,This was one of my wildest adventures. How Could I have I forgotten him?

Killing floor

Ugg
mercenary
berserker
furious defender free with berserker
TAUNT ZEDS free
Respawning -600
a knife: I imagine it's more of a machete. Free
9 mm pistol free
Crovel Tool free for berserker
Medical syringe free with mercenary

Generic Xianxia Cyoa(Jumpchain Compliant)v1.2

Ugg
ancient mentor
the basics free
Xianxia Protagonist-600
martial arts free
cultivator free

>>52664146
Bancho why did you reply to me

>>52664091
Phyrexians are a race of people mostly created by a man known as yawgmoth who artificially ascended to a form of godhood by betraying a oldwalker and killing her then taking over a plane for himself. He then used a mix of magic and science to turn humans and animals into phyrexians through a process known as phyresis, its basically a race of cyborg body horror with black mana. Warped and twisted beings of bone metal and flesh spurting their glistening oil and commanding the magic nanobots called flowstone.

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>>52661697
>>52663116
Looks cool to me.

I'd personally like it if there were any (lesser?) scenarios that wouldn't require A Grim Certainity, since I'm not too keen on dooming an innocent plane (or two, considering Innistrad).

And treasurehunting/archeology expeditions in a shifting hostile world seem cool.

>Lull/Roil Mage
How does this work in other jumps without, you know, a Roil?

>Lithomancy
So, uh, where do we stand with the perk? Can we do the common stuff, or also some of the more advanced things?

And does it also give talent in the art, or just starting skill? Mainly asking because I kinda planned to have pic related teach me when I get her from Innistrad.

>A Feast For The Gods
So, with these 'summoning patterns' I could summon these lesser Eldrazi normally instead of having to lure them, and just have them do what I want (contrasting with the uncontrolled unleashing of a Titan the perk also allows)?

>Network Notes
Would having Lithomancy and Sangromancy help with this? Conversely, would it help me do Hedron stuff with Lithomancy?

>The Unreal Crown
This thing's cool. What's the three-spike appearance based on? I mean, obviously Kozilek stuff, but did you have any particular Eldrazi's look in mind?

>Waterfront School
The notes call it the 'lakefront school'. It's easy enough to figure out what you mean there, but a consistent name would be nice.

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>>52664229
>>52664091
It was really one of my favorite mtg card series and the stories were pretty good.

http://mtg.gamepedia.com/Phyrexia

Theres for more info.

>>52664229
That doesn't sound so bad. Planeswalkers are dicks-

>>52664247
-oh fuck no.

Where are the Planeswalkers when you need them and why haven't they wiped these shits out

>>52664262
Urza tried. A lot of oldwalkers tried. They eventually started making oldwalkers into nukes to shoot out of their giant artifact fighting mechs. These guys even figured out ways to planeswalk in spite of not being planeswalkers.

>>52664288
So these things are actually WORSE than the Eldrazi?

>>52664226
It was accidental. I click replies and then delete the reference to use the quick reply box, but this time apparently I forgot to delete the Reference. it was entirely accidental and I apologize.

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>>52664297
Well they can be killed easier I think, they are basically silicon life from blame.

Mixed with rust and evil evil oil. And the ability to use magic sometimes. They are fucking great with black spells.

>>52664091
>the Wyld (which is dangerous because it's made up of dreams and narratives)
Technically true, yes. Since the Wyld is the border zone between Creation and Pure Chaos.

Pure Chaos itself isn't made of dreams and narrative though. It's infinite possibility, the utter antithesis of reality, and has no central traits at all.

Any coherence is a matter of chance, not anything coherent.

Most beings' minds shut down from sensory overload when they enter it, trying to cope with infinite change happening around them. Simultaneously, they start mutating beyond recognition, before dissolving into chaotic elements entirely.

It does shape itself somewhat to those who enter it, providing some sort of dream-like experience... But only because their Creation-born reality forces some stability on it, for however long they hold onto themselves.

Not even the shaped Fair Folk can actually live there, only Unshaped can.

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>>52664333
>>52664297
They also have really neat flavor texts, one of them was a cute poem.

"It doesnt think, it doesnt feel, it doesnt laugh or cry.

All it does from dusk till dawn is make the soldiers die."

>>52664333
And then there's New Phyrexia, which has more colors than black. Still fucking "evil" for everyone else, except maybe red which has gained the capacity for empathy and is doing their bests to ignore the mirran refugees everyone else wants to kill. Not helping them, but not attacking them, letting them stay in their home if they don't bother them.
They are ashamed and afraid of their feelings.
Red Phyrexians are potential Bros, in a way. At least the ones most likely to be out of the phyrexians.

>>52664388
I mean, I wasn't the original guy who suggested the Wyld is somewhat more hospital than the Blind Eternities but. You can fish Protoshinmaic Vortexes out of it, Unshaped not only live but seemingly THRIVE in it enough more predatory subspecies of Unshaped evolved rapidly enough to exploit an ecological niche after the Balorian Crusade-and of course the Primordials dwelled for countless aeons among it with no natural predators according to the devs. Which seems to me like, the place is metaphysically very nutritious.

So the impression I'm getting is-the Wyld/Pure Chaos and the Blind Eternities are reality-melty for opposite reasons and only look similar superficially. One's a mana-leeching void that just happens to be able to be shaped into substance, the other's a massive sea of potential that grounds down most things through sheer ecological pressure.

>>52664393
>Red Phyrexians are potential Bros, in a way.
Not really no. Red Phyrexians are "Rebelling" against the current rulers because it's in their red nature. As soon as that changes they'll change sides.

>>52664242
scenarios take time to write but i'll see what i can do.

feast for the gods
summoning patterns will let you summon mtg style doesn't work on the actual titans tho.

network notes having either of those willl enhance it a lot if you have lithomancy and those you would be able to make hedrons.

lithomancy i'll clarify more in next update i had serious trouble writing that perk as you seem to have mtg context with about a decade you could do stuff like create a new helvault. given 2 or three decades you'll hit nahiris level. starting out you can craft top end gear map out stone while meditating and wield the hedrons. possesing the notes will speed up learning as will any learning speed perks.

crowns based of the fanning triangle we see on a lot of the eldrazi in kozileks brood

>>52664446
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/savor-flavor/planeswalkers-guide-new-phyrexia-quiet-furnace-2011-05-04
>Faced with impulses and hesitations they didn't know how to cope with, the Phyrexians of the Furnace Layer cleaved tightly to their function
>The mana from the red sun gave rise to Phyrexians who had just a glimmer of concern for other lifeforms—not full-blown compassion, but enough empathy to cause hesitation, a phenomenon more or less alien to Phyrexia.
>fully sentient Phyrexians found themselves deeply conflicted and even ashamed of their concern for others.

>>52664447
>ummoning patterns will let you summon mtg style doesn't work on the actual titans tho.

So a copy of the original for all intents and purposes a clone?

Lithomancy sounds cool.

Which eldrazi is the tentacley boney fleshy one?

>>52664476
As usual, that's not what the "e-book" portrayed, but I have a feeling the writing team doesn't talk to each other as often as one would think.

>>52664476
>>52664446
>Ingot slaves are the native Phyrexian humanoids, hooded, leather-clad, and mostly faceless, who cast and extrude the metal from the furnaces. They vary somewhat in size and shape, but all speak minimally, and when they do speak, the sound is a guttural scratching that only other ingot slaves can understand. The ingot slaves have recently been curious about Mirran humanoids, particularly Vulshok, who they furtively observe while working when possible.

What would happen if only Urabrask was remaining of the praetors, nobody knows. He might get over this "empathy", it might never go any further than what it is, whatever. But it seems clear that the red mana has granted them some degree of empathy.

>>52661937
i hate nissa but zendikars her plane. ask gaunlet he's doing kaladesh

I'm torn on who to companion in dark souls, on one hand there is fluffy half dragon tail waifu and the other pyromancy waifu.

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Aside from Fairy Tail, where can I get Gun Magic?

>>52664643
>I'm torn on who to companion in dark souls, on one hand there is fluffy half dragon tail waifu and the other pyromancy waifu.

do not companion Priscilla,I fully concede she's cute and seems nice but she is either ridiculously out of touch to the point of not having anything resembling an accurate model of the world or in denial to the point of insanity. either way it demotes her to look but don't touch status.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD8xLYHyCAc

>>52664509
Happens more often than you think. WoW's retcons and inconsistencies are because of just this fucking reason.

It makes you hate people just that much more.

>>52664682
Enter the Gungeon.

>>52664643
Ignore bancho get pricilla

>>52664709
Being out of touch with reality is no problem when you are a reality hopping abomination agaisnt all creation.

Also escapism.

>>52664746
>yfw that's how Garrosh ended up doing a 180 to maximum evil after Cata

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>>52664682
Hero BBS but they would also be magic guns,if memory serves fate has some examples, outlaw Star has what can be considered gun magic,Kamen Rider Neo Heisei Part 2 has magic sword-guns.

>>52664615
No he isn't, Amalur. I'm the guy who's doing New Phyrexia and Kaladesh.

>>52664756
All I'm saying is don't stick your dick in crazy,I think that's a pretty reasonable thing

>>52664430
Yeah, I think I agree with that. They're reality-melty for opposite reasons.

That summarizes it very well.

Personally though (not quite related to your argument), the Unshaped and Primordials don't really seem like reasons to call it more hospitable, considering the Eldrazi live in the Blind Eternities too.

>>52661410
Well... there's http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Fanfic/DireWorm

It's I-can't-believe-it's-not-Doom in Worm, if Doom was genre-savvy, loved playing the giant ham and actually lived up to his intellect rather than having his mental stats re-rolled at the start of every comic.

>>52664767
dammit brain

>>52664772
you have not lived until you have stuck it in crazy

How close are you to be embodying this song jumper?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H841uTdr5S0

(How close are you to be embodying this song jumper?)

Sorry wrong button.

Does rich parents from generic magical girls carry over?

>>52664817
i have twice it's not worth it ,both times she needed constant Reassurance and kept using me for reality checking he second time she was always laying these guilt trips on me about how she Would kill herself without me was on my cell every other hour.

>>52664758
I thought after Stonetalon Mountains, he'd have some potential as a good antagonistic leader.

No they want me to hate him AND Thrall even more.

And best point of all, they made Thrall get off scot-free until he lost his connection to Doomhammer and the elements one expansion later.

>>52664834
My musical numbers usually have much less auto-tune.

>>52664839
It's 'Equipment', so I'd assume so.

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>>52664447
>scenarios take time to write but i'll see what i can do.
Alright, take you time and thank you!

>summoning patterns will let you summon mtg style doesn't work on the actual titans tho.
Cool. And yeah, the perk's pretty clear in not getting to summon the titans.

Summoning them still works if we make sure the Eldrazi aren't released, right?

>network notes having either of those willl enhance it a lot if you have lithomancy and those you would be able to make hedrons.
Awesome. Gotta try and pick that up then.

>lithomancy i'll clarify more in next update i had serious trouble writing that perk as you seem to have mtg context with about a decade you could do stuff like create a new helvault. given 2 or three decades you'll hit nahiris level. starting out you can craft top end gear map out stone while meditating and wield the hedrons. possesing the notes will speed up learning as will any learning speed perks.
That's pretty cool. Thanks.

>crowns based of the fanning triangle we see on a lot of the eldrazi in kozileks brood
Fair enough. I'll go through the art of Kozilek's brood a bit more, and pick a shape I like for it then.

>>52664483
>Which eldrazi is the tentacley boney fleshy one?
That's basically all of them.

Ulamog's brood tends most to bone-plate faces and tentacles though.

>>52664868
Any good jumps for singing then?

>>52664888
Les Miserables, Disney and Heathers come to mind.

>>52664834
Secret hideout check
fancy swordss check
more of a force of nature kind of anti-villain than a mastermind
Every village I've ever burned has deserved it , and I certainly enjoyed the spectacle.
I'm not the only boss. I'm part of the committee of rulers
I have several castles check
one of them does in fact have a princess
the term is saurian Lord, thank you very much.
death maze check

my personal private army is made up of Saiyan- Czarnian Hybrids and waddle-dees

monologueing is for suckers.

My moves are practiced check

Teleportation and Invisibility are part of my fighting style check

when I had hair n my head it was a pompadour

I am a good and effective king not a tyrant

my beats are quite ill check

my Spike traps are very sharp. Check

>>52664888
Macross

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>>52664885
>>52664817
Oh, one more question...

What would happen if I decided to headbutt someone with the Unreal Crown? Basically the same as what would happen if their face met a Sphere of Annihilation?

>>52665019
I think that's mentioned in the artbook for Kozilek, that the floating shards surrounding his lineage would make incredible weapons but the Eldrazi never intentionally use them that way.

>>52665073
Oh, so it is. Thanks, anon.

>These sharp projections tear effortlessly through physical substances, including armor and living tissue; yet the Kozilek lineage creatures seem not to use them intentionally as weapons.
Not quite Sphere of Annihilation, but still pretty nice.

>>52664297
If what I remember of the books were right, there's one who dindu nuffin, mostly sympathetic and just wants to live.

<spoiler>she dies tho</spoiler>

>>52665181
... Wait what? I know nothing of this.

>>52665107
>>52665073
How well would they do against endbringers?

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>>52661697
Gah. This was pretty hard. Kept going back and forth on whether I wanted Eldrazi stuff, or just Animist and Network Notes.

Race: Kor [Free] Seems good.
Drop-In [Free] Let's just appear out of nowhere.
Cultist [100] I'm totally on board with this 'gods' thing, and not at all planning to betray all of you at the earliest opportunity. Honest.
>perks:
Chill Of The Void [Free] Aliens! They took our jobs!
A Direction Without A Name [200] Cool. Mobility and suprise.
Lithomancy [600] Lithomancy is the best. Just the best.
Gleanings Of The Faithful [Free] could be useful, if crude.
A Feast For The Gods [300] Oooh, summoning Eldrazi.
>items:
Traveler's Boots [Free] Seems good. Comfy.
Kor Hooks [Free] Well, I can't really call myself a Kor without these, now can I?
The Unreal Crown [Kor Stipend] Really nice. Wonder if this enhances Direction Without Name...
>lands:
Bountiful Forest [400] Damn cool of a place. Wonder what kind of beasties to introduce...
Temple To A Lost Age [200] Mostly want it for the White/Black mana, but it's nice.
>drawbacks:
Leviathan Enthusiast [+100] They're cool. Sue me.
Directionless [+200] Welp. A little help, please?
Hedron Bound [+200] Hmmm. We'll think of something. I'm sure I can find the Heart or suitable Hedrons anyway.
A Demon's Interest [+300] Ob Nixilis. At least we have a reason to fight now.


Okay. First priority, keeping the Eldrazi in their fucking cages.

Second priority, demon-binding.

Third priority, get some source of mana to get this Hedron off me.

Fourth priority, mess with Jace.

...Wait, scratch that, messing with Jace is second priority.

Seems doable.

I know i said Blue was next, but i figure i should give you guys some stuff while i work on blue. That way, i can get some feedback on the general phyrexian stuff.

100 CP (Free Phyrexian Origins) –A Body for a purpose: You were made to fit a purpose in the Great Evolution, the path to perfection-whatever you believe that is. As such, your body (which will become an alt-form after this jump if you so wish) is made out of flesh and metal, in the way other denizens of New Phyrexia are. You may specify a purpose you were made for, and your body will be adapted to it- things like “carrying molten metal from one place to another” or “killing fleshy things really efficiently”, for example, or simply be somewhat of an all-rounder, something almost unheard of in this land.

>>52665201
In one of the 90's weatherlight books there's this one phyrexian female, made to be some overseer or something to control the flowstone at the outpost. So the book goes along, you find she's not THAT bad after all, then the main phyrexian hero whatshisface beefy mcedgefag kills her because plot. RIP.

Also, the next books sucked dick iirc.

>>52665365
what's the upper limit on this ? Is deicide on the table here?

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>>52665365
...

>>52665375
Found her.

http://mtg.gamepedia.com/Belbe

>>52665393
You are so fucking stupid.

>>52665413
yeah,and I'm asking for benchmarks because something is pretty vague and I don't know any better.

>>52665419
...it's 100cp Bancho. What do you think it can do.

>>52665419
If you know everyone thinks you have poor judgement, don't critique.

Protip: Behelit=No

>>52665427
I don't know,I'm an idiot. that's why I'm asking.

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>>52665365
Hm, interesting. Should probably add porcelain to the flesh and metal bit, for the Machine Orthodoxy look? And maybe a molten core thing for the red phyrexians' look?

I assume the Mirrans would get a somewhat similar perk form their natural flesh/metal physiology? ...Any chance of being able to apply that metallicness to other altforms as well?

>>52664297
>Eldrazi
15 squirrels

>>52665477
So it's not just Marvel where Squirrel Girl and her army is unstoppable.

>>52665440
...God, you're retarded.

It's literally just changing your physical form.

You can put more blades or claws onto it and thus be more lethal, but it won't help you do something idiotically out of bounds like deicide (unless those gods are just fleshy things you can dismember/compleat, I guess).

>>52665408
>>52665365

would something like "Construct and design augments as necessary" or "modular von Neumann device" or can use it to Just get a Phyrexian monster's abilities?

>>52665501
No argument Here.

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>>52665482

>>52664643
Why not both?

>>52664709
Dark Souls 3 showed us that the paintings rot and go through their own cycle, so it's likely that Priscilla was preoccupied with a time before the painting had begun to rot and its inhabitants go insane.

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>>52665508
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU

WHY CANT YOU JUST ASK WHAT THE MAX LEVEL OF POWER ONE MIGHT EXPECT IS INSTEAD OF THIS DUMB HALF ASSING BULLSHIT?

>>52665508
the more generalised the weaker it gets i think

>>52665537
I literally said " what's the upper limit on this" >52665393 so don't accuse me of not having done things I've done in this very thread

>>52665583
Then wait for an answer to THAT question. What is the god damn point of asking all these other questions when they'd all be answered if you just sat still for a while and shut your goddamn mouth for once?

I've recently had an epiphany, guys. Have you ever wondered whether bancho really was autistic, or whether he was just a dedicated troll? Okay, and hear me out here, what if he's both?

>>52665617
...That makes so much sense. All is clear now.

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for an anon that is completely lost in this mtg discussion where do we go to learn?

>>52665668
the wiki is decent but zendikar part 1 was before all the lore was dome online. u can find stuff like a planeswalkers guide to zendikar though which will help a lot.

>>52665668
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/planeswalkers-guide-new-phyrexia-2011-05-09
Start here, and read the guides for each phyrexian faction.
• 100 CP (Free Phyrexian Origins) – The imperfections of the flesh : The flesh of the Mirrans was weak, their bodies flawed- You find that, after the improvements made to yours (or despite them, perhaps), you are resilient to the drawbacks your appearance would imply- Flayed skin showing muscle won´t get infected, extra limbs seem to not get in the way, and flesh doesn´t seem to rot.

>>52665709
Correction,
• 100 CP (Free Phyrexian Origins) – The imperfections of the flesh : The flesh of the Mirrans was weak, their bodies flawed- You find that, after the improvements made to yours (or despite them, perhaps), you are resilient to the drawbacks your appearance would imply- Flayed skin showing muscle won´t get infected, and flesh doesn´t seem to rot away. In short, purely aesthetic things in your appearance will not cause problems with your function.
(removed the extra limbs part, because its meant to be about aesthetics, and extra arms... well, they aren´t just for show)

>>52660499

Ultimate Reed Richards/The Maker is also implied to be fucking Doom's mother, who has been restored to life as of currently unexplained reasons.

>>52665775
you know doom blaming richards for all bad things in life would be less believable if he didnt do shit like this

200CP (Discount Phyrexian Origins) -Infect the Body: Glistening Oil , also known as Phyrexian oil or Ichor, the substance that corrupted the Father of Machines and gave birth to the glorious New Phyrexia, infecting its inhabitants and giving them the desire to compleat themselves- to replace the imperfections in their body with machines, and which you may now generate from your body in small amounts. The one you´ve picked up is not quite as insidious- at least not without you meddling with it- but it retains its ability to better enable the fusion of machinery and flesh when the patient is submerged in it. Make them perfect, Jumper. Note: Basically, submerging people in it makes it easier for their body to adapt to the merging or replacing of their body parts with machinery. It would take about a month to produce enough to submerge the average adult male.

This might need some changes, thoughts?

>>52665629
Like, shit dude, it's the only way I can explain bancho's asshattery after seeing him accidentally shows glimmers of understanding things. It benefits him in the long run too. Think about it, if you act like a total moron then, while extremely disliked anyways, no one believes he's actually fucking around or trolling on purpose when he actually wants too.

>>52660499
It might sound dumb at first, but Superior Spiderman was pretty good. Haven't read Doom!Iroman, but I might give it a try once it's finished.

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>>52664966
>my personal private army is made up of Saiyan- Czarnian Hybrids and waddle-dees

That's sounds meh at best.

• 400CP (Discount Drop-In) – Perfection through Sacrifice: The flesh is weak. Your insight into the worlds of the living and machinery have revealed that much to you- the designs of whatever creator gods of the universe may exist are flawed, imperfect- and by damaging these designs in you- by sacrificing your own lifeforce, whether it be through drawing your own blood, tearing a chunk of your own flesh, or simply offering your own raw lifeforce, you may substitute the cost of supernatural abilities you have with it, empowering them with the ability to slowly Infect those hit by them- corrupting their mind so they may embrace perfection. This is a slow process, and might be downright impossible for the strongest-willed of enemies – But you´ll never let that get in the way of your Great Work, will you?

>>52665775
Doom and dr strange went to hell and defeated mephistoles for ownership of her doul and restoring her life. Doom does not barter.

>>52665906
Any good ideas on what to add to my Saiyans?

>>52666029
Soul*

>>52661439
It's probably Ultimate. The helmet showed up in the cover of the next issue iirc.

>>52666034
Flesh eating disorder and regeneration.

Oh, have the Machine Orthodoxy Capstone!
Perfection through Order- 600CP Discount Machine Orthodoxy: You´ve become a master at manipulating the little people- molding their beliefs and ideals to better suit yourself, able to place yourself as the leader of a grand, wide-spanning religious system through guile and charisma. You carry yourself with a elegance befitting of your status, and your allies are emboldened by your presence, becoming stronger and more durable, while your enemies are struck by awe, being similarly weakened. The effects of “A faith of flesh and steel” are enhanced, being able to sway large crowds with your words, as long as they listen- or are forced to listen.

Note that it probably needs some more work, and probably will have things added to it.

>>52666062
Zombie Sayians?

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>>52666034
I really dislike using actual biological creatures, since they would be left behind once you leave the jump. I stick with my robots.

Also, just giving them brute strength might not be the best in each situation, and if they're Saiyans they're going to need a lot of training.

One way to inflate their power levels would be giving them an insane regeneration factor (being a Czarnian might not be enough) and have them put under a constant Kaio-ken.

You probably want to give them something like the Sting (Worm) or Dimensional Slash (Overlord) if you want them doing anything against a mage. High-end magic resistance would be nice, too.

If you're feeling specially nasty, adding effects like Soul Eater's artificial madness would really be a nightmare for anyone fighting them without the madness.

>>52665849
>This might need some changes, thoughts?
It looks okay to me. Maybe make it a little clearer that it only retain the fusion ability.

Because phyrexian oil is fucking terrifying stuff.

>>52665979
>• 400CP (Discount Drop-In)
Is that supposed to be (Discount Phyrexian Origins)?

>>52666070
>>52666092
Looks fun. Though yeah, I kinda feel it needs a bit more 'Oomph' to really feel like a perk that makes you akin to a Praetor.


Also, are we getting a Golem-creation perk, like the Splicers and other things?

>>52666168
I mean they get stronger with damage so...

>>52666217
Yes, its supposed to be phyrexian origins.
Golem creation... hmmm, i don´t know where i could put that perk, to be honest. Maybe i could make it the second phyrexian 200cp?
The capstone will probably be given something more once i have the rest fixed up, and bring them all in line at once. I just wanted to show one of the capstones.

>>52666205

Funny, I like using biological creatures for that expressed purpose. That being said, I also try to build them up to be independent and raise them right and what have you so they can exist and thrive even after I leave. It's fun to seed the multiverse with races and civilizations that inherently see me as a friendly, all this life that I'm responsible for like, everywhere.

>>52666320
>>52666205
Gentlement, gentlemen.
Magitech Cyborgs are where its at.

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>>52666265
>Golem creation... hmmm, i don´t know where i could put that perk, to be honest. Maybe i could make it the second phyrexian 200cp?
That'd be cool. You might also be able to do it as a general/undiscounted perk, since the Golem Foundry/Forge stuff isn't phyrexian. But personally I'd put it down as Phyrexian.

>The capstone will probably be given something more once i have the rest fixed up, and bring them all in line at once. I just wanted to show one of the capstones.
Sounds good, and it does look like a good starting point for the perk.

>>52666335
All shall be compleated.

>>52664430
Reminder: Protoshinmaic Vortexes can be used as Wyld-Nukes, creating wide bubbles of Pure Chaos when they detonate. Bubbles that last at least a year without Shaping charms to lessen them.