MTG COMPETITIVE MODERN GENERAL

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>out at a club
>this guy walks up and exiles your girlfriend's ass

what do you do?

>>52653421
>playing?
U/W Thopter Whir
>hating
Eggs, it's not even a bad match up people just play it so fucking slow >brewing
Sky Hussar ninjas
>sideboard card
Commandeer, stealing a karn or cathartic reunion makes me nut.

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>>52653519

>teleports behind u

nice try.. kid

Can U-Tron jam a set of Ensnaring Bridge and just use Mindslaver as the wincon?

>>52654791
U-Tron isn't a deck that looks to empty its hand

I was looking to get into modern and I was looking at 8-rack as a start. What I was wondering, is that I've seen some lists run anywhere from 0-4 lilianas. She seems like a very important part of the list, and I was thinking the lists that ran 0 were for budget reasons, but there's this one that made a top 8 at GP Vancouver that has 0 as well, so barring consistently favourable matchups it seems like it's doable. There's also a lot of back and forth about mana bases and running white/red for sideboard or just keeping it black.

Is there anyone here who can shed some insight on what the right way to go with the deck is (besides killing myself for playing an unfun deck)?

How do I Rev for 15 safely?

>>52653900
So this is like the best thing Blue decks can side in against Tron right?

What are some decent replacements for Mishra's bauble? I understand why it's so good, and probably irreplaceable, but $50 for an uncommon. I don't think so.

>>52655284
Replacement how? 0-drop artifact that can toss itself to the graveyard, or an artifact providing a bit of card draw/self replacement?

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>>52655254
This plus hyper efficient beatsticks works for me

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>>52653421
>Playing?
G/B Tron. Nothing gets me harder than killing my opponents Goblin Guide, making them discard their Boros Charm, and recouping the damage their guide did with a mini-helix, all for the low cost of 2 mana and some discarded eggs.
>Hating?
Nothing really. I'm pretty happy with the current metagame.
>Brewing?
Nothing at the moment. I have a memey mono-walls deck built, I just need to put together a sideboard.
>What's your most effective sideboard card?
Warping Wail or Pithing Needle. Both have been consistently relevant week after week.
>What card are you most excited for in Amonkhet? Does it change any deck you play?
Snek god dude. I'm going to try him as a 2-of in mono-green stompy.

>>52655284
If it's just for types in graveyard you can cast hangarback Walker or Walking ballista for zero

>>52655181
I have 2 8-Rack players in my meta and both swear by mono-black. One of them runs a full set of Lili's and the other runs none so I don't know what to tell you there.

The spiciest tech I've seen for that deck though is Lupine Prototype if you're too poor for bridges.

>>52653421
>Playing?
Death's Shadow Jund, GB Tron, Breach Titan, Affinity. Think I might try Merfolk this Friday.

>Hating?
Bogles.... sometimes.

>What's your most effective sideboard card?
Back to Nature.

Not excited about anything in Amonkhet.

>>52655325
Is Collective Brutality that good? I'm considering splashing it in U Tron.

>>52655724
It is a very strong card with a lot of utility. Its useful in a variety of matchups, and it makes the burn matchup in particular a lot more winnable.

If you think you can fit it into U Tron without compromising the core of the deck, go for it.

>>52655724
Yes, it's pretty good. Run 3 or 4.
T.Burn player

>discard your hand to slow me down 1 turn
Sounds nice. I like it.

>>52656143
>discard your hand
There's enough redundancy in g/x tron that dropping extra eggs or tutors is irrelevant.
>1 turn
In what world does recouping the life lost to a turn 1 GG, killing said GG (which probably would have gotten in 4+ more damage), and removing 4 damage from their hand equate to 1 turn? I've played both decks extensively and CB is virtually a net gain of 8-10 life, which can often be enough for tron to stabilize.

>>52655284
The rarity of old cards is largely irrelevant to the price. Low supply? High demand? Expensive card

>>52653519
This is a real card?

>>52656748
Yes little Timmy. Back in the day, Wizards wasn't afraid of printing good cards.

Now we just get straight shit from BFZ though Amonkhet.

>>52655249
You don't

You can Rev for around 8 pretty consistently with Esper Draw Go, though

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>>52656813
>straight shit from BFZ though Amonkhet.
But anon, what about the Eldrazi?

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Is this good for anything?

>>52656936
Maybe more tech against Affinity/Lantern. The mana loophole pisses me off to no end though. Why can't we punish lands anymore?

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Hey lads

RUG Delver

>>52656999
Oh man, I just realized he hits fetches! This might be main board playable.

>>52657054
Why would I ever run this in rug delver. I run 14 creatures at most and I certainly don't want to be tapping of for the most expensive scry ever

>>52656936
Definately intredasting. Maybe he can fit in burn?

>>52657249
Harsh mentor is strictly sideboard fodder

>>52656936
Naya hatebears is a go.

>>52657240
3 mana for scry 2 every turn is pretty fuckin decent and her 0 can also get you lands.

>>52657249
I think there's a place in burn for him. He wrecks everything affinity wants to do, he turns every fetch n' shock from 3 to 5 damage, he negates scoozes ability to gain incremental life, he severely punishes both Eldrazi Displacer and Drowner of Hope, and I'm sure there's plenty more good stuff that he harms.

He's probably not quite as impactful as Eidolon, but he doesn't affect you and can be run alongside Eidolon anyway. I was thinking at first that he might be worth sideboard slots but the more I look at him the more I'm thinking he's mainboard material.

>>52657317
>play her for 3 mana
>use her +2
>shes only at 3 loyalty and gets bolted
Wow 3 mana for scry 2 so OP.

>>52657298
Is 3 colors viable in a deck that doesn't want to run fetches?

>>52657344
Why not run fetches?

>>52657344

Run 8 copies of city of brass. YOLO bitches

>>52656936
I like it, but what's it hit besides fetches, scooze, expedition map?

>>52657317
You're assuming she doesn't just die.

Also rug delver functions fine on 2-3 lands. This is not a good card

>>52657374
Manlands and Kiki.

>>52657365
Leonin Arbiter is a key hatebear and he fucks your fetches. You could run without him though I guess

>>52657409
Hes looking better and better by the second. He might find a home in my Grixis Delver 75

>>52657438
Oh shit he hoses ravaged. Affinity btfo

>>52656936
This level of hate means Birthing Pod can be unbanned, right?

>>52657503
Lol

>>52656936
Ok but seriously, why are the majority of the amokhet people black? Shouldn't most of them, you know, look egyptian? I get they're pandering but it seems ridiculously insulting to just glaze over the people that it's actually based on.

It'd be like doing a china themed set but the majority of people were Irish because they wuz emperors and shiiet.

>>52657591
>Why are there black people in fictional not-Africa in my card game designed to sell Planeswalkers to children and retarded standard players?
This is obviously bait but does it matter? Does anyone have faith in WotC for anything?

>>52654791
>playing bridge in a deck that doesn't get hellbent
wew

>>52656451
I know. I mean force is an uncommon, but I feel this price is inflated and will be reprinted soon enough. I'm more or less binding my time. In the mean time, got an suggestions for replacements?

>>52657325
I feel that way too anon. But what could one cut for him?

>>52656936
This guy seems playable in Burn. Maybe over Lavamancer as a two of. Hes not always good, hes a bad topdeck, but in conjunction with Eidolon he makes playing the game very strenuous on life totals. If theyre both out turn 3 a single fetch into 3 cmc or less spell becomes 5 damage.

>>52657783
There were very few blacks in ancient egypt. If they wanted the set filled with blacks, they should have made the theme the congo jungle.

I felt bad for egyptians, getting their history blatantly stolen and black-washed.

>>52657850
Maybe cut Lavamancer and a Skullcrack to run 2 mainboard?

>>52657958
Probably this. Maybe a Lightning Helix and a Skullcrack cut or Lavamancer. You'd want to cut a 2 cmc spell as to not ruin your curve.

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Do you guys think Cryptic Serpent has any potential at all?

>>52658201
Nah it's just a body, has no evergreen abilities. There's better finishers.

>>52658201
Worse gurmag angler and much worse bedlam reveler. The double UU cost kills it

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>5 mana

>>52657917
Even if it were only a few, there were blacks in ancient Egypt(slaves in hieroglyphs are depicted as very dark) so I don't see why you are whining. Also, there was a pharaoh with Sub-Saharan features near the collapse of ancient egypt (niggers can't keep shit). I didn't see anyone complaining about the depiction of whites in Not! Greece and Not! Mongolia. It doesn't even matter because of your races will soon be obsolete anyway. Hispanic masterrace here.

>>52658375

This could say "prevent all damage that would be dealt to you" and it still wouldn't be that big of a game changer on modern. It's balanced for draft.

>>52658443
>Hispanic masterrace
>entire continent cucked by the CIA

>>52658490
The CIA is cucking you in your own house. Atleast I'm getting cucked by a stranger and not my own brethren. Enjoy the next 9/11 and sandy hook faggot.

>>52658443
>not! greece
>not! mogolia
>white

>>52658624
Greek people share more features with the terrorists you so much hate. Have you seen greek people? Goole it.

can Pressed for Answers target a tapped creature?

>>52658535
>implying "Abject poverty: the race" doesn't perpetually fuck itself to the bottom of the barrel

>>52658719
Yes

>>52658729
You have us confused with niggers.

>>52656999
You can't respond to mana abilities so it's consistent that mana abilities don't trigger things.

>>52658201
In frontier

>>52658651
I know what greek people look like dipshit and that's why I implied they weren't white unlike that retarded hispanshit.

>>52658772
>it's consistent that mana abilities don't trigger things.
Are you forgetting Manabarbs?

anyone played elves allosauros combo? there are several builds but i dont know which one to make

>>52659198
>elves allosauros combo
That deck is legitimately bad I don't know why you would want to play it.

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Why isn't it a 1 or 2 of in stompy?

>>52659301
Name one other deck that let's me play elves and dinosaurs

>>52659433
He has a point >>52659301

>>52659420
Green Stompy is an aggro deck that wants to play extremely green-intensive creatures on curve. Nyxthos is pretty much a dead land for 90% of the decks spells early game, and in the late game its useless because the deck curves out at 3.

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>>52659459
>>52659433
the even worse CoCo- Dubious Challenge Brooding-Elves combo

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What think?

>>52659613
If you're going to do a shitty combo like this wouldn't any other landfall trigger work as well? Like Hedron Crab that wouldn't even require you to slam chromatic lantern

>>52658201
It's a blue Gurmag Angler. Take that for what you will.

>>52659654
it's a worse gurmag angler too. take that for what you will

>>52659667
Someone's getting a little worked up.

>>52659716
Tbh, it's pretty bad in modern tho. Any deck that could take advantage and cast it for UU would rather play other things

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>>52659880
Literally already been posted in this thread you pleb. >>52656936

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>>52658772
???

>>52659301
my inner timmy gets hard at the idea of playing elves, dinosaurs, and craterhoof and my inner spike for the potential turn 2 griselbrand or iona

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I have a full set of Windswept Heath, Wooded Foothills, Temple Gardens, and a single Scalding Tarn and Stomping Ground. Anything I can build with this mana base without putting more than about $100 more into it?

>>52660282
Ghetto manaburn.dec incoming?

>>52660688
No

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So I hear that storm is a thing again in modern, and this is what I put together. My other tarns are in ANT and I don't wanna move them around every week if I don't have to.

Anyone have any experience with the deck, or is it autoplay helmet storm?

>>52660688
you could build burn with a slightly shittier mana base

>>52660979

It's literally t2 baral t3 storm off

>>52660979
Join the storm team, senpai

>roommate is out in the living room fucking the second new girl this week
>I'm in my room sorting cards wondering what steps in life I took to lead me where I am today

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>>52661345
Anon if you want to fuck girls try looking in places other than your LGS. Visit a bar or something. Sign up for online dating sites. Take up a hobby or take some classes were you can meet lots of qt's. Get out more.

The only one making you sit in your room sorting children's playing cards is you.

>>52661345
Duel him for breeding rights.

>tfw he's a DSJ chad

>>52661345
>tfw Im obssessed with mtg
>tfw I hook ups with girls
>tfw Ive hooked up with girls and played mtg with them right after

and no, these are not pink haired whales. these were actual qts. not putting myself above you guys, you can do it if you wanted to. you just got to be clean, nice, and be confident about yourself and you'll get girls

>>52661345
>falling for the casual sex jew
I bet you think taking drugs makes you cool too

>>52661775
Drugs are fun. I don't care if they're cool

>>52661784
Being a druggie might be why you dont get girls
Women want a stable man, not a fiending crackhead, hyper pill junkie, or lazy smelly pothead whos ass is welded to a couch

>>52661847
He just needs to find himself a nice druggie girl so they can fuck and do drugs and play magic together.

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>>52661877

>>52661922
There are plenty of attractive girls that do lots of soft drugs anon. Just go visit a college campus.

>>52661345
>>52661784
Sounds like you need to do whatever drugs strike your fancy and sit back and enjoy some good ol' fashion folk punk. Here's a few of my favorites :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH8aMjSEF8c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaDMYqUbOPU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxihL9JPqWc

>>52661951
90% of college grills are thots though

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>>52653421
>Playing?
??? & Taxes

>Hating?
lots of things! with bears! you!

>Brewing?
finding a spot for Harsh Mentor in Imperial Taxes

>What's your most effective sideboard card?
it doesn't work like that

>What card are you most excited for in Amonkhet? Does it change any deck you play?
Harsh Mentor is my new waifu. it goes directly into Imperial Taxes.

>>52657374
It fucks with Merfolk too, for what it's worth. Aether Vial and Mutavault both trigger it.

>>52662042
>Imperial Taxes
I don't know what that is but it sounds neat. Got a list?

>>52662197
It's a legacy deck using imperial recruiter.

Whatever happened to the version of hatebears that runs loxodon smiter and no aether vial and flickerwisp? Everyone's on the flicker plan but I hate playing a deck that folds to torper orb. Anyone who plays the more beater version have an updated list? The primer at mtgslavation is dead.

>>52662259
Nobody plays torpor orb

>>52662276
My local meta has assholes who do.

>>52657054
>Nissa "Maybe the Eldrazi will just leave" Revane
>Blue

Wew lads.

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>>52662017
i used to be into johnny hobo when i was a stinky crusty dredmullet edgelord like 10 years ago.

>>52662322
Hey, Jace "I'm going to be the biggest cockmongler possible" Beleren is blue, so it's not like good sense is a prerequisite for being a blue planeswalker.

>>52660688
Wooded foothills and stomping grounds put you most of the way to a passable burn deck. You could make an ok burn deck with $100 more.

Bedlam Reveler
Monastery Swiftspear
maybe soul-scar mage

the green gets you atarka's command, destructive revelry, and sideboard ancient grudge.

suite of burn instants and sorceries and mana morphose

You'll win some matchups. It's not an amazing list but it's alright. Hurts for lack of the more expensive burn staples like goblin guide and eidolon of revels.

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>>52662362
Fair enough my dude. Tastes and people change over time. Hell, I heard Johnny checked himself into rehab awhile ago.

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>>52662197
imperial taxes is white-red legacy taxes, named for imperial recruiter (which is no longer included in the list in favor of recruiter of the guard). basically you play this cunt in d&t and get whatever you want out of your deck to hose the other guy, or just chain flickerwisps off it until someone dies.
NEO imperial taxes was playing red for magus of the moon, and will now also include harsh mentor in some amount because that static ability is cuckoo-bananas.
that being said, i'm drawing up a non-eldrazi tax list based off imperial taxes for modern and i'll post it once i get it hammered out.

'opponent controls'? really wizards? my penis can only get SO erect.

>>52662427
idk, looking at that pile of lands I think Bushwhacker Zoo is the way to go.

>>52662458
Why couldn't this guy be modern legal?

>>52662438
pat? yeah i heard something to that effect.

whiskey and diy orgasm are fuckin classic though.

>>52662503
Because snap.

>>52662522
filtered

>>52662503
white isn't allowed to be good in modern

>>52658201
Literally the next Tarmogoyf, invest in this while you still can. Assuming these sell for around 25 cents, I plan on purchasing around 20000 of them. In three years when they spike up to $25 a piece, I'll get the last laugh in my Caribbean summer home.

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>>52662522
Oh yeah, definitely. Honestly I love just singing/screaming that whole album with my mates when I get piss drunk.

Also, here's that vanilla legendary MaRo was talking about. 8 mana 20/20 makes my inner timmy scream with pure unadulterated joy.

>>52662503
off the cuff i think it could be included without immediately ruining EVERYTHING

a) what do you GET with it
2) why do you play this card over Leonin Arbiter, as they are diametrically opposed effects

>>52662586
Literally a one hit kill, this is by far the best Magic card ever printed, save for maybe the P9.

>>52662586
This is very disappointing.

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>>52662606
>>52662824
Fling was printed in this set. Combo away, friendos.

>>52656936
This pretty much invalidates any reason to play Naya over boros burn now.

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>>52662586
Good?

>>52662586
>>52662606
>>52662824
>>52663259
Whatever your thoughts on it, they're irrelevant now. It's a fake. Look at the copyright info - it's got and instead of &.

>>52662458
I'm thinking of a g/w hatebears legendary toolbox with "time of need" you have teeg, both thalias ,sigarda,thrun,brimaz.

>>52663919
You wanna try reading the card one more time?

I am gay and can't read

>>52659613
>4 piece combo
>in 2 colors
>one of the pieces is a creature

looks like it will win you precisely 0% of the modern games you try to bring it in

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Best tier 2 deck on mtgo? I got about 200$ budget

>>52661031
Yeah, but gifts is weird. Is there an insta-win gifts pile or something?

>>52661308
Bro. I play ANT in legacy, Paradoxical Outcome in Vintage. My very first non-shit standard deck was Swathstorm in 2008, and I probably would have played tendrils had I known about the game in 2003.

Storm is love, storm is life. No need to tell me this.

>>52666030
Gifts for desperate ritual, pyretic ritual, manamorphose and x

X is either grapeshot if you have past in flames in your hand/graveyard or past in flames if you dont.

With a Baral or Electromancer out that gives you enough mana and tutoring ability for a decent size storm

>>52660979
Been playing the deck for a month or so, shit tons of fun, there is some thought process against your bad matchups (B/G/x, Death's Shadow variants, Burn) as well as navigating through any control decks. But if those aren't the case, then you just breeze right through and go into storm auto pilot

>>52666030
Your coupon creatures are the heart and soul of the deck, against certain matchups I hold onto them until I can play them, counter a removal spell or just go off on top of the stack in response

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How relevant is the exile effect from anger in modern right now?

>>52666279
Oh I'm dumb, this deals 3 to each and cycles for 3. Don't see why they didn't make it ping everything for 1 when you cycled it but whatever

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>>52658375

oh look, a strictly worse pic related

>>52666279
dredge is the 2nd highest meta % on MTGO right now so it's kinda relevant
>>52666295
>strictly worse
>costs less

>>52666430

>colorless mana
>protects you from your own sources
>artifact, tutorable, easier to reduce its cost, etc

It's garbage anyway but way better than the enchantment

>>52666430
Mtgo is for faggots though

>>52666520
oh, well in casual modern FMN for ages 12 and under it's probably better then

>>52665930
Play stompy or mono red burn

>>52666563
Do adults actually pay money for virtual magic cards?

>>52666768
Yeah but only using virtual money from credit cards.

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Ok, now it doesn't die to bolt. Still shit?

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>>52667157
It's literally pic related with - trample and + 1 toughness.

It will be a fun kitchen table card, and if Delver decks were a real thing, I would play this as a one- of for funsies, but it's not really modern relevant. Especially when we lack really good spells in UR. If we had free spells to protect it, maybe Disrupting Shoal, you could make it work.

>>52657402
No disagreement on delver not wanting it, but I've never been one to put much stock in "dies to removal". For 4cmc she dodges bolt, which is a check mark. She doesn't protect herself or draw cards, which looks bad in a vacuum, but I'll wait and see before insisting that subsequent free Scry 2 and free creatures/lands is unplayable.

>>52666291
3 mana for 3 damage board wipe + some upside is pretty standard (excluded toxic deluge). Cycling is one of the best upsides you can put on a card, everyone I've seen commenting on this set seems massively underestimate it.

>>52667157
Izzet's Goyf.

>>52667230
Just like goyf is shit because green lacks good spells, right?
>tfw no good green PW or instants or sorceries to fuel muh goyfs

>>52667435
goyf doesn't force you to play blue though

>>52667435
>no good green instant or sorcery spells
I run a playset of rabid bite In my sideboard when playing stompy.

>Playing?

Grim Flayer Abzan

>Hating?

The Abzan mirror

>Brewing?

On the road to finishing Naya Burn and 42 Land Seismic Swans :^)

>What's your most effective sideboard card?

Blood Baron of Vizkopa has been great. So has Rule of Law and Sorin, Solemn Visitor.

>What card are you most excited for in Amonkhet? Does it change any deck you play?

Harsh Mentor seems incredibly scary. Other than that, I don't think Amonkhet has a lot of Modern cards yet.

Who has modern on Tuesday nights at their LGS?

Not me, we do it on Saturdays.

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Is Kessig Prowler better for Mono-green Stompy than Dryad Militant?

>>52667746
Dryad's ability is really relevant.

>>52667610
>Naya burn
You won't regret it anon

>>52667746
No. Why would it be anon?

>>52665930
Mono red burn since you can make it boros or naya eventually.
Mono green stompy if you like beating down with creatures but not winning as much. Can't really upgrade it tho.
8whack is also an option, but worse than the other two

>Didn't grap Tarns right after MM2017 release
>Already went up more than 33% from the lowest point they hit

Fuck's sake

>the Egypt set
>Full of actual Egyptian god cards
>But no trap cards

Why wizards?

>>52668030
There is a card called "Trueheart Duelist".

>>52668030
Here at wizards we realized people were not happy with rise of the eldrazi 2 and actually wanted return to zendikar, so we put our foot down and will never print any mechanics from original zendikar again. Remember, we know what you want better than you do.

>>52667435
No, Goyf is a mediocre card that rewards you for simply playing the game. It gets better with support, like discard spells. Enigma Drake rewards you for playing a bunch of cheap spells, you know , like cantrips? The cards that are barely passable in this format? Sure, you COULD make a URx spellslingy deck, but while it would be fun, it wouldn't be effective competitively.

just recently won a modern fnm with bant spirits - beat slivers, elves, eldrazi tron and storm. Ask me anything

>>52668202
You running Kira senpai?

t. Bant spirits player

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AYY FUCK YOU WYTE BOI GIMME DAT WELFARE AND SHIEET

>>52668230
i have one but wasnt running it that game. I ran 4 paths mainboard instead - which was meh in retrospect, only got to path a tks and baral once

>>52667746
No, I tried prowler for a bit but I never had the spare mana for it's ability, I often don't even get more than 3 mana on field so 5 is a joke.

>meme in the OP
>no shitposting about it

have I walked into bizarro /modern/?

>>52668854
Listen. If I took the time out for every meme I saw on /tg/ I'd never get around to anything else.

>>52668854
we try not to give spellweaver (you)'s if at all possible

>>52668928

>we
this is correct, all my (You)s go to mox opal being vintage level and kithkin tribal's only bad matchup being living end

>>52668971
desu those were acceptable in the threads they were birthed in but they're stale now.

You don't understand the power of draw 3 is the hot new kid on the block

>>52669002
desu all of the memes are stale af, they really need to just be left in the thread that birthed them

>>52669002
This was never funny

>he's into memes
Entire thread confirmes underage retards

>>52669557

>he's into posting about card games on an anonymous haiku analysis forum
confirmed underage retard

>>52669685
I love how easy autists make it to spot them by posting their own little twist on the "Ebin japanese anime forum" meme.

>>52669737
I love how easy autists make it to spot them by posting about how much they dislike memes on a taiwanese meme trading website.

>>52667157
I like it. Might be worth some slots in U/R Delver.

>>52667979

this
>bought into the "the bottom is a couple months after release" meme perpetrated by sellers so they can get their copies and sell them to you for 33% more for quick turnaround on their money

at least that's what my tinfoil hat is telling me

feels bad man

>>52670025
I don't think anyone anticipated just how fast people would buy these up. They dropped for a whole week, but then people stopped opening packs because everyone realized the EV was shit. That didn't stop people from needing fetches, though.

It's fine, though, because UR is a shit color combo.

>>52669737
>trying to pretend 4chan isn't literally a website made by a weeaboo for weeaboos and based on a Japanese website

Denying the root of the site only makes you look like a closeted faggot

>>52662362
>Death&taxes
>Amebix
You are a pretty cool guy for a namefag. I love the thrash vibes on Arise.

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>>52670163
>All this projecting

>>52666768

Don't play dumb you obnoxious faggot, of course they do. When your only options are playing against cheating autists on cockatrice, "haha sorry first time playing this deck" retards that scoop after a FoW on xmage, or playing in real life at dead scenes because you live in bumfuck nowhere it's sometimes the only decent way of finding competent players.

>>52670865
>I don't know what projecting means

How can I be projecting if I readily admit to being a weeaboo?

>>52670163
>every board should be garbage because at one point that was the intention.
All boards are not intended to be anime meme garbage dumps

>>52671204
Being in denial is just a step on the road to acceptance

>>52671204
No you don't understand, it was an anime image board 15 years ago so we sll have to be autistic shiposting weebs now, don't you see?

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What does this need to be good in modern? it's live vs loads of decks but folds to t1 hand hate which is the most common play in the format. It's a nonbo with opal and SSG is inconsistent. it's less relevant once your opponent slams a goyf before I you can use it.

thoughts?

>>52671365
Sol lands and misheard workshop

>>52671365
It needs several things to be good. First, it needs sol lands and free acceleration (such as SSG or Lotus Petal or Moxes) so it can be out on T1 significantly more frequently. Second, it needs a suite of tax effects to go along with it, such as Sphere of Resistance. Trinisphere alone doesn't stop scary shit from happening, it just delays a lot of things and ruins early games. Basically, it buys you time to get your sphere effects down to tax them out of the game while Tangle Wire and Smokestack actually lock them down and you win with whatever (Gods' Eye, Gate to the Reikai is the techest kill I've seen).

Basically, Trinisphere needs an entire archetype to exist in Modern that doesn't exist, since the tools to support said archetype don't exist in Modern's cardpool by intentional choice of WotC. I'm a big proponent of brewing, but this isn't the place for Trinisphere, sorry anon.

>>52671365
I have a 1-of 3ball in tooth and nail side to fuck with the odd combo match. And burn. Jamming it on T2 on the play vs burn is funny stuff. One bolt per turn, if they even fucking manage to get to three lands, is a hell of a slow clock.

>>52670163
No one said anything about gay people though?

>>52671737
Faggot is just a general insult though? Especially here it's almost like a completely meaningless word

>>52671788
Faggot.

>>52671788

>closeted faggot
if you/they just said faggot you would have a point but anon explicitly stapled a word to it that ties it to the actual concept of homosexuality which separates it from the "generic" use and is kind of out of place IN A THREAD ABOUT FUCKING MODERN

>>52671788
>Faggot is just a general insult though?
If you're underage

>>52671788
Faggot is offensive. Being gay isn't a choice, and there's nothing wrong with it. The new generic insult is much more kosher, because cuckdom is a choice.

I recently got the urge to build a deck based solely off of my enemy sacrificing permanents, but I'm not sure if there are actually enough cards in the game that make players sac stuff. Anyone got suggestions?

>>52671919
Kys

>>52671933
It's actually sort of the other way around, where I make people kill themselves. Thanks tho.

>>52671919
Bitter ordeal

>>52655284
Run more tarfire/seal of fire, basically the DS decks have a hard time getting creature/instant-->tribal/artifact--->PW/Ench in order of ascending hardness.

So the best inclusions are going to be enchantments and tribal cards that you can reliably bin for presumably traverse, so presumably you are on either jund shadow or BUG midrange traverse, so I'd go with upping my tarfires, including bolts/brutality main and the like.

>>52671905
Cucking faggot

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Is this the worst set ever printed?

>>52672321
Nah, there's still homelands and BFZ.

>>52672321

It has some pretty neat cards but it's nothing to rave about.

>>52672345
But BFZ had some playable stuff, this has absolutely nothing, and also Homelands doesn't count cause it is king of underpowered shit

>>52672376
>set isn't out yet
>no cards are usable!
Pls go

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How to beat turn 3 infect deck pumps?

Thinking about making a mono green to counter it using

>>52672638
Any removal with Split second.

Red has sudden shock, black had that worse Dismember.

And white has Blessed alliance.

>>52672638
you can counter it by using this cool thing called discard and removal

>>52672677
Forgot you can use Geths Verdict in black too, but it would require for the infect player to have ONE creature on the field.

>>52666458
But that's not what "strictly worse" means you deluded faggot.

>>52672376
>this has absolutely nothing
Cycling Flash O-Ring is a thing.

Also the new duals might find a home somewhere, or at least form a split with shocks in grindy decks.

>>52672790

He's saying urzas armor is not strictly worse because of X Y and Z you cocksleeve

>>52672892
>that shit reading comprehension
No he's not
No one was saying urzas armor was strictly worse, they were saying the enchantment was strictly worse, which it is not because it costs less mana. Then the deluded faggot continued to extol the virtues of urza's armor, as if that were relevant. It doesn't matter how much better it is, if it costs more it can't be "strictly better".

>>52672828
>4 manao ring is a thing
Lel

>>52671861
Closeted (weeabo) faggot was how I understood it

>>52672828
Outside of cyclememes i can see it in an Abzan delerium shell as a 1of, turn 1 cycle enchantment to grow a goyf +oring aint half bad
>>52671919
Theres a 1cmc red card that does that, sacrifices a land. Theres probably a brew based around it somewhere out there.

>>52672970

Oh, I only read two posts back. Neither card is strictly better. Youre still a cocksleeve though for no particular reason

>>52667746
You seriously need to ask this?

>>52672638
...Doesn't that last ability make the first two null and void?

>>52673790

poison and -1/-1 counters both exist outside of infect (poison less so, but still does)

>>52673790
>>52673829

Particularly with cases like Phyrexian Unlife and Kitchen Finks which Melira interacts with

>>52673829
>>52673790

Well yes, but you're not going to be running this card against anything besides infect.

>>52673885
Or in a combo deck

>>52673885

Except for with the aforementioned cards which Melira turns into game winners, I specifically gave you cards that use Melira to great effect

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How's modern these days?

Any fun?

>>52674186
I'm personally enjoying it

>>52674186
Alil too aggro and not enough control, but is ok

>>52667157
RUG delver mangs

>play a shitload of spells
>play as top of curve

>>52674620
Have it be a weak bitch because you've used your resources for mandrills.
No thanks

>>52674729
Correct me if I'm wrong, but are Monkey grow and RUG delver the same deck? If they aren't, then the idea is that you wouldn't have mandrills in the version replaced by Drake.

>>52674784
Either they are the same thing or rug Delver is trash. If you're playing rug tempo without the all star monkeys, you're doing it wrong.

>>52674784
Monkey Grow is one version of RUG Delver, the most aggressive version. There's also a more midrangey version that people play.

How is modern general less popular than legacy general? Where did it all go wrong?

>>52674906
>less popular
>more posters
>faster threads
I don't know you tell me boyo

>>52674876
Imo if you're gonna play a midrange leaning list you are way better playing grixis

>>52674906
Modern General normally has one thread each day and has around 100 posters. Legacy general will have 2 or 3 threads in a week, if we're being generous, and has a bunch of self- congratulating namefags.

>>52670025
>x masters set is announced
>everyone in the format's collective assholes tighten
>prices probably drop 1-5%
>spoilers begin
>speculated prices on cards begin to drop up to another 10-20%
>spoilers continue and as the number crunch proceeds or cards are announced cards will either stabilize for a chunk of time or drop another 10-20%
>cards that weren't announced will generally return to anywhere from 95-120% of previous price over the next few weeks
>cards that were announced will keep the lower price for anywhere from 1 to 2 weeks after the set drops
after that you can expect the prices to steadily climb back up over time as more people view this as a chance to buy into the format

Just bought an affinity deck.

Can someone check out my sideboard cards and what match ups to use them?

2x torpor orb
2x thoughtseize
2x blood moon
1x spellskite
2x spell pierce
2x grafdiggers cage
1x whipflare
1x Ghriapur aether grid
2x wear // tear

>>52672376

>But BFZ had some playable stuff

You mean Gideon, Ulamog and Shambling Vent? These are just 3 cards Anon.

>>52675095
Orb - D&T, Eldrazi
Thoughtseize - Mainboard these
Moon - Tron
Skite - Boogles/burn
Pierce - Tron, Burn
Cage - Put these in binder
Grid - Any ensnaring bridge deck
wear//tear - No need

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>>52675214
sorry sweetie

>>52675257

Oh, right, 4. I forgot him.

>>52654791
If you changed the whole deck to fit that maybe

>>52675251
thanks dude

What should I replace thoughtseize,cage and wear//tear for?

>>52675282
don't know your meta. tailor toward that. chances are you need dismember or the metalcraft removal for 1W.

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Why is Eldrazi Displacer the best Eldrazi?

>>52675214
Skyspawner, Retreat to Memehelm, Bring to Light, Crumble to dust, Painful truths, Zulaport in aristocrats, Drowner of Hope, Wasteland Strangler.

Ogw has a decent amount too

>>52675388
OGW is just all the cheap eldrazi. SOI has nothing

>>52675341
Because the card is literally broken and if it didn't have that colorless mana restriction it'd be played in every single deck

>>52675473
dies to bolt, push, and path

Its fine.

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>>52675341
Best Eldrazi coming through
>this was a mythic in oath

>>52675410
I mean it has Cleetus, Reflector Mage, Dank Dwellers, reckless Bushwhacker + memedrazi
and that's a decent amount

SOI is lacking I'll admit but it has Neonate and Amalgam which put dredge on the radar, Rattlechains, Traverse, Tracker, Titi (rip) and Memeheri.

EMN has nu lili, Spell queller, Mausoleum wanderer, Reveler, Selfless spirit, Collective brutality, Grim Flayer, Blessed Alliance, Eldritch Evolution and Eternal Scourge.

>>52675251
Moon isn't all that good against tron, O-stone can still easily go off. I would recommend ancient grudge, kills their maps, eggs, O-stones and makes a resolved wurmcoil a lot less of a threat. If anything he should be setting up his board for decks he is at a disadvantage against

>>52671919
it's called restore balance

>>52673527 probably crack the earth.
you can abuse it with young pyromancer and stuff that replaces itself like flagstones of trokair, chromatic star, wellsprings, etc

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>>52671919
Yeah, you can do that. Geth's Verdict is probably the best, aside from Smallpox.

Why doesn't harsh mentor punish planeswalkers?

>>52676439
$$$ and "fun"

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Nevermore + runed halo but also protects your creatures, at 4 mana. Seems not that bad. Naming reality smasher seems good.

>>52676439
because if he did you could redirect the damage to the walker essentially hardcountering any PW, and there is no way WotC is gonna make the special snowflake cards get bumfucked by a bear.

>>52676522
This plus the "lol can't lose" gideon seems like a really powerful curve.

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what's a fun modern deck that doesn't feel like I'm playing solitaire with myself?

>>52676588
Any variety of gifts ungiven except storm.

>>52676588
Mono Green Stompy

>>52676522
Gideon turned on his waifu pretty fast.

>>52676656
that's the red one

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rate this vine list? i wasn't sure what to put in the flex slots
i haven't been able to get matches against tier 1/2 decks besides tron, which i aggro'd out.
turn 2 swing 5 or 8 has been a good time tho

>>52676599
Speaking of stompy, is 8,9, or 10 land stompy still a thing?

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When will this be playable again?

>>52676951
It wasn't playable even when it was

>>52676951
>again
was never playable stop your revisionist history

>>52653421
Rate my shitbrew

>29 spells
4x mana seism
4x splendid reclamation
4x harrow
4x amulet of vigor
3x realms uncharted
2x edge of autumn
4x faithless looting
4x magmatic insight

>6 creatures
4x eternal witness
2x greenwarden of murasa

>25 lands
4x gruul turf
4x haunted fengraf
2x golgari rot farm
4x miren, the moaning well
1x grim backwoods
4x forest
4x mountain
2x blighted fen

The plan is to combo off with some combination of mana seism, splendid reclamation, haunted fengraf, eternal witness, and amulet of vigor. Amulet also allows for faster acceleration.

>>52676914
In modern? I thought the 8 land version was a legacy deck or something. Anything less than 18 and you will never hit your third land drop, which means no Baloth, the best card in your deck.

>>52675012
Yeah and, imo, Jeskai is a better aggressive Delver build

>>52667610
>Blood Baron of Vizkopa
Huh, forgot he was even a thing. Pretty neat he doesn't die to Path, Bolt, or Push. He even dodges Terminate, Pulse, D. Sphere, Murderous Cut and other semi-common removal

Guess he makes up for it by having kind of a shit body though

>>52677021
>tfw baloth is the best card in your deck

>>52676951
Everything this did in Standard needed cards that are banned in Modern not to mention you can do exactly what Dragonstorm did in Modern on T2 with fucking Cheerios or Infect.

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well, fuck me /tg/
when this seismic assault trend started?
I bought a pair for a land deck back in 2012 trying to go out of the road, and now they cost 4x more?

netdecking was a mistake

>>52677439
uhhhh reddit

>>52677439
>netdecking was a mistake
(you)

>>52677171
Jeskai delver is just a bad burn. It's linear and has even worse game against tron

>>52677171
>Yeah and, imo, Jeskai is a better aggressive Delver build
You do get access to quality beaters, such as, uuuh, ummm, nothing? Geist?

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Ultimate anti-DSJ tech

>>52677722
>dodges abrupt decay
>dodges IoK
Pack it up fellow DSJ bros it's all over now enchantress tier one

>>52677775
>dodges abrupt decay
I wonder why that is? Is it maybe, just maybe, cause it's a shitty meme 4 mana enchantment?

>>52678043
>shitty 4 mana
you won't be saying this when enchantress bogs your board and cheats it out t2. Enchantress is going to be even worse than eldrazi with this card.

>>52678087
>turn 2
But how?

>>52678104
nykthos with leylines baka

>>52678104
t1 mana dorks and SSG

>>52678104
utopia sprawl + arbor elf

>>52675251
without wear//tear, how do I deal with stony?

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Any decks this guy could see play in? 4/3 for 2 is nothing to scoff at, even if it dies to bolt.

>>52679466
the revolt 4/3 sees no play and I no reason why this would either

>>52679466
no it's awful

>>52679466
>4/3 for 2 is nothing to scoff at
>in a format with two mana 6/7s and one mana 10/10s
yea nah

>>52679466
>4/3 for 2
and discard a card. This is draft garbage

>>52679466
Maaaaaybe in Standard RDW I hope, but not in a format with bolt and far more efficient creatures like Goyf or Arcbound.

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Buy them while you can.

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>>52680173

>This in affinity

Jesus.

>Play your hand on enemy end step
>Swing
>Win

Disgusting

>>52680207
If affinity wanted this it would have been in the deck years ago.

>>52680173
kek got 3 playsets along with cryptolith rite

cards are broken lol

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>>52680254
Just like deaths shadow, right? RIGHT?

>>52680173
It's in a commander precon at $0.50 for fuck's sake. It's not spiking for the sake of a few affinity players.

>>52680297
"Few"

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>>52680173
>>52680207
>>52680276
Bah, your stupid meme flash creature has nothing on the spiciest of affinity tech!

>>52680276
traverse wasn't printed until last year senpai and DSJ is a fairly recent deck as well.

Affinity will never play shit cards like shimmer mer

>>52680315
>4x Urza's Tower
Explain?

>>52680345
If you play all four Towers you have enough mana to play your entire deck. It's busted tech in Affinity

>>52680345
The guy who put together the sample decks for GP Vancouver really shit the bed - the 4 towers should be spire of industry. That wasn't the only mistake that was made either; there were 5 copies of Searing Blaze between the main and sideboard for the burn sample list, and there were a few other mistakes that I don't recall.

>>52680430
I was more baffled by the fact that they weren't at least wastes, unless you really want to squander slots to mindgame your opponent into thinking you're running tron. Geez that's bad.

>>52675388

> Bring to Light, Painful truths, Zulaport

I haven't seen this played, like ever.

>>52680544
Bring to Light had its own dedicated Scapeshift variant for awhile before it fell off in popularity, and I think Painful Truths sees a little play in some Grixis lists.

Not sure about Zulaport though. Aristocrats hasn't been a thing in modern (unless you count Melira CoCo) for ages.

>>52676781

>no amalgams

It's trash.

>>52675251
Retard condirmed.

>>52678087

Nevermore still just feels better.

>Tezzeret the Schemer dropping to 5.00
>Whir of Invention still below 1.00

I'm baffled. These should have spiked by now. Why is SCG being slow on this one? Their pro has confirmed it boosts the old Tezzerator build. Why have they not swooped in yet?

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>>52680830
there's only room for 1 artifact deck around here

What happened to gifts reanimator? Did Grishoalbrand just steal all of the Reanimator players?

>>52681031
4c gifts died with DRS

>>52680830
...you know I just realized that harsh mentor is gonna fuck tezzy's asshole raw. Thopter foundry won't save you