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Pathfinder General /pfg/

Throw Edition
Why are thrown weapons so hard to use? Low range, lots of feats required, obligatory magic items taking up slots. Is this because of the waterbaloon fighter fallacy? What would you do to make ranged weapons occupy different niches while retaining balance?

Unified /pfg/ link repository: http://pastebin.com/hAfKSnWW

Current Playtests: https://pastebin.com/quSzkadj

Old Thread: >>52627931
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>back to having furry anime girls in the OP

Well it was a good run lads.
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>>52635344
This is the future you chose.
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>>52635350
WE HAD LIKE 5 IN A ROW WITHOUT THEM

I guess the ban must be up, cause this faggot posted it on page 7 too
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>>52635253
While I thank the team for the clarification, I just have to sigh and shake my head at the results. I'll add it to the ever growing list of FAQ's I hope my DM's never see and use. :(

As a side note, this means a trapper ranger or Alchemical Trapper could set up a trap right in front of you and it vanished from sight, even though you haven't taken your eyes off of it so it doesn't matter what the DC of the trap is: it's like you have to daze yourself to figure out that the trap is still there...
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So! How was your weekend, /pfg/? Do anything fun or exciting, game-related or otherwise?
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>>52635371
You play Pathfinder. This is inevitable.
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>>52635321
I like how you made this general early just so you could ensure it has a fucking weeb-ass OP image. Great job, shithead.
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Just make a different thread with a non-anime OP you silly billies
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>>52635401
We killed a dragon.
We had to use 4 breaths of life to keep the party going
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>>52635423
>ACTUALLY MAKING DUELING GENERALS

Even more cancerous
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>>52635423
Every time we try to do that the second, reasonable thread gets no replies and is deleted.
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>>52635439
>>52635441
It worked well enough for /5eg/. He gave up in 2 days
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Is it better to PM in Roll20, or just Discord?
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>>52635321
I hate this fucking character so much.
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>>52635465
whichever works
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>>52635344
A League of Legends character, at that.
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>>52635321
1) because legolas used bows and legolas was hot
2a) other than legolas, anything else is a filthy fucking martial, which is disgusting and wrong and often they're male which means they're rapist racist sexist assholes too or they wouldn't have a penis
2b) Martials especially things with penises MUST NOT ever have nice things. If they want to fight they have to suck: it sucking has to be the most important starting point or else it's not balanced because full spellcasters have a limited amount of times they can do things in a day and even though there's an equally restricted amount of encounters in a day because the martials can do the thing all day and thus technically an equal number of times to the restricted amount of encounters in a day which was designed around the number of vancian discharges a full caster is capable of in a day, if they are able to do it all day as opposed to the vancian full caster who is only able to do it as many times as he needs to in a day which is entirely different due to the way encounter design has been designed and balanced, it would be broken.
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>>52635483
This is the worst timeline.
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>>52635344
>furry anime girls
>furry
I'm genuinely curious as to why /pfg/ gets a bad rap for being "furry" when it's clear most of the shitposters are using any third-party material they can find to deliberately make their weebshit moeblobs NOT furry. We had one thread with an actual anthro kitsune (the Pathfinder standard) as a joke and the weebs flipped their shit. Not trying to defend furfags, but please call the cancer for what it actually is. This is entirely /a/ refuse spilling out of its containment board.
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>>52635496
Weeb isn't a strong enough insult.
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>>52635465
Discord is usually more instaneous. Roll20 can take some time cause the page doesn't auto-refresh, and some people only go to Roll20 to make apps.

So Discord if you want/need a reply right meow, Roll20 if you can afford to wait a day or two.
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>>52635321
Because fuck you, the anon already explained how to make it work, you're just too retarded to do that and don't want to put in the work.
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>>52635321
We get it, you want to make a character with throwing weapons so you can live your degenerate erotic fantasy as Xayah, but the munchkin in you also doesn't want to gimp yourself by going down an obviously cancerous weapon style.

Sucks doesn't it?
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>>52635401

Me, my brother and his friends went to Gatlinburg for a bachelor's party weekend, it was tons of fun!
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>>52635465

What are you asking for? If it's a general question, just use Roll20. If you're trying to say you want them to typefuck your face (or vice versa) use Discord.
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>>52635321
Can you just delete this shit instead of being a colossal anime furry waifu faggot?
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Anyone know of a relatively painless way to get WIS to ranged attack rolls and/or damage?
3pp is fine, although not PoW.
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>>52635656
be a zen archer
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>>52635401
Pretty good!

Got another job offer, had a great characterization session in RotJR, and challenged a bunch of rats to a dance-off in HR, after exchanging witty banter with the rest of the party.
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>>52635667

>Characterization session

Explain, EXPLAIN.
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Well 12 Spell Resistance help me at all? I'm currently level 6.
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>>52635656
Psychic Armory Soulknife.
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>>52635401
Just as importantly, how was *your* weekend FennecAnon?
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>>52635401
Shitty, as always.
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>>52635677

Just the party decompressing after the day's events.

>>52635685
Most enemy casters are going to be in the levels 3-9 range, so the chances of it being useful are non-trivial.
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>>52635677
Kill yourself. YOURSELF.
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Is this thread mocking the anon from a thread or two ago or is it actually serious, I can't tell anymore.
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>>52635705

Enjoyable, thank you. Played the first session of a new campaign (which was a lot of fun), and spent some time at my grandmother's place, fixing up her corrals so my aunt could leave her horses there while she finishes moving.
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>>52635544
I am not DFT starknife anon, I just saw that argument and it inspired me.

>>52635545
Uh... no? What I am asking is why are some fighting styles so weak and crippled at the very base? If this was an intentional design choice then why does nothing warn you that throwing weapons are not supposed to be focused on? And how would you make it so every weapon choice has a good, healthy niche (which should have been a thing from the start)?
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>>52635937

Rory pls GO.
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>>52635937
Fuck off rory
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Now that the dust has settled, what's the verdict on Ironfang Invasion?
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>>52636197
I hate this meme.
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>>52636197
Has anyone fucking played a SINGLE GAME OF IT
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>>52636197
>>52636272
I'll be sure to let you all know if I get in BitF.
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>>52636209

What did he mean by this?
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>>52636298
I hate the "now that the dust has settled" meme.
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>>52636294
Same.
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>>52636345
I hate the ""_____" meme" meme.
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>>52636345
So now that the dust has settled on "now that the dust has settled" memes, what's the verdict on Ironfang Invasion?
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>>52636345

Really makes you think.
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>>52636381
>>52636373
We must go deeper.
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does anyone have the build for 5 monkeys with guns on hand? I need it. For 'reasons.'
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>>52636424
This one?

https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/4541370/characters-for-the-crew/?pageforid=4550997#post-4550997

>It still hurts. Even now. ;_;
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>think about running Ironfang
>want to change some bits
>mfw i am stuck in endless loop of rewriting parts of it and never going to run it
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>>52636539

The campaign is perfect as-is, why would you want to ever change it? Amber Scott truly outdid herself with this one.
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>>52636678
I want to add more stuff to it
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>>52636447
>being bamboozled this hard
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>>52636699

It doesn't need more stuff! It's perfect!
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>>52635401
Started a RoW campaign, might be getting into a board game night with some old friends on Tuesdays, and oh yeah fucktons of response papers because English majors end up with three classes' worth of writing on the regular...
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>>52636021
>>52636026
Anons, memedog isn't that stupid. Why would he want to have people giving him shit now? This is just another witch Hunt anon. I don't like either one but it's nothing to get riled up over
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>>52636782
Does it have good puss?
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>>52636678
you people overreact to her stuff
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>>52636810
if you like amputees, yes
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>>52636785
How's the RoW campaign going? I hear it's a fun AP
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>>52636814

Amber Scott is a sign a product is going to be shit, and the fact people insist her turds smell divine enrages people.
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>>52636902
Like I said, overreact
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>>52636929

How are we supposed to react when Scott releases a subpar book and people start praising her work, like with Baldur's Gate?
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>>52636996
Psst
Siege of Dragonspear was not ALL terrible
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>>52636893
Literally just started on Saturday. Apparently, nobody in the group knows what this 'chess' game is, but I'm a doctor so I got to go all house call on the frostbitten Ulfen.

It seems fun so far, I have a habit of making noisy characters though so I'm kinda concerned about taking up too much conversation time...
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>>52637041
A chess game? I don't remember one of those in RoW. Was that something your DM did?
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>>52637082
DM'd opened up with two old foggies playing chess in the village square.
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>>52637039

It was terrible enough to besmirch the name of Baldur's Gate and shame the developers.

What's the last product Amber Scott has touched that has been looked upon fondly by people? Like, you'd have to be a goofus to think /v/ or people in general discount a game because of the views of the developer - Subnautica is made by a genuine nu-male loser, and everyone loves it and is willing to look beyond his flaws.
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>>52637114
Damn, that sounds different. He explain why? There's nothing in the AP about them as far as I see. Was it just a spur of the moment thing?
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>>52637170

Anon, from the sound of things he just wanted to have an opening shot.

Like RotRL opening with a summer fair, or War of the Worlds beginning with a closeup of a raindrop, or Forrest Gump and the feather.

Reign of Winter kind of opens up awkwardly, so starting with some old farts sitting around talking before snowflakes start to fall makes sense.
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>>52636889
I hate the "I hate the "I hate the ____ meme" meme" meme
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>>52637170
I don't know because I didn't read the AP. RoW is one of the few AP's I have absolutely zero knowledge of outside of the Russia thing that everyone knows and I intend to keep it that way until the campaign is done. It seemed like a nice segue into the main plot though. If you didn't just mention it wasn't part of of the AP, I wouldn't have noticed.
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>>52637214
...Hrm. You got that right. RoW just drops you in and says "you're in this town, talk to the popsicle man, go questing". I can applaud the opening shot replacing that. It sounds fun!
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How common is for the Lodge in Reign of Winter to be a PC graveyard?
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>>52637223
I hate my team
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>>52637214
Basically this. In that light I gotta hand it to the GM, that felt plenty natural.

Like damn, I haven't read the AP books but wtf man? Where'd /that/ come from?
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>>52637339
Kill your DM. Eat his heart. Gain his power.
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>>52637339
Why does he refuse to let you use it? Has he given a reason?
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>>52636197
The dust is still being kicked up. How can you make a verdict 1/3 of the way through a trial? Shut the fuck up.
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>>52637397
Not that guy, but this is what the DM probably said
>"That shit looks broken. There's nothing wrong with monks; they're a strong class already."
And this is what the DM meant
>"I don't want to have to read anything new or get a handle on your new abilities or numbers. Running this game is already a huge pain in the ass."
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>>52637436

That's like saying we should give the new Mass Effect series a chance because the first game is not representative of the next two games.

If you can't make a good first two books than the rest of the series does not or should not deserve the benefit of the doubt, "it gets better 200 hours in" is one of the most cancerous things you can tell a person.
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>>52635496
And a number of people were all 'Hey that actually looks alright' regarding the art paizo actually gets of Kitsune, rather than having to deal with The Generic Furry Face

>>52635539
>Right meow
Are you a catte.
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>>52635960
>Fennec Anon is also a cowboy

I like this.
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>>52637485
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>>52637485
Honestly? I kinda like Paizo's kitsune art. It isn't that offensive. Same deal with tengu. I can imagine kitsune and tengu, Pathfinder wise, coexisting with orcs and hobgoblins and humans and such, without much disconnect or furry shit. Plus, their Skinwalkers LOOK like shapeshifty manimal combinations, rather than awoos and kemonomimi. I give Paizo shit but they can do some things right sometimes
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>>52637485
>>52637557
>no examples of paizo kitsune

c'mon man
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>>52637612
I want to fuck that fox.
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>>52637612

But that's a rakshasa-you can tell by the backwards hands.
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>>52635401
We caught Nualia! But I don't know if she summoned the thing or not yet.
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>>52637612
Where is her fluffy tail

This distresses me.
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>>52637626
Holy shit you're right that's a goddamn tiefling
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>>52637557
>I give Paizo shit but they can do some things right sometimes
You mean do it wrong.
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>>52637626
OH FUCK.
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>>52637655
Is that why she doesn't have a fluffy tail.
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>>52637626
... Well fuck. I at least know for sure this is a kitsune.
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>>52636424
DHB didn't do the full build because he said "it was really hard to make not awful".
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>>52637612
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>>52637502

I wouldn't say that-I just happen to live close enough now to help my grandmother out with chores.
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>>52637727
Too late you're a cowboy now

post fennecs wearing cowboy hats.
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>>52637674
>>52637684
>INCONSISTENT LEG STRUCTURE

REEEEE
how much official art do these fucks even have,
anyway, it can't be much
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>>52637742

Someone post the piss jar.
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>>52637684
Oh shit nigga that's kinda cute! I like this art style more, they look scruffier and foxier!

There was also art of a blue sorcerer kitsune dude for the sorcerer archetype in Blood of the Beast. I don't think I have it saved- Pathfinder's Kitsune Art isn't the WORST thing, yknow?
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>>52637727
Yeah, but how many people have grandmas with corrals and horses?
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>>52637806
A lot?
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>>52637772

This guy? Yeah, pretty cool.
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>>52637833

Did you just assume xir gender? That page clearly uses female pronouns.
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>>52637612
>>52637674
>>52637684
Now see, this is the critical thing to remember about PF's kitsune.

They're foxpeople, not 'furries'. People often take them as furries, but they're drawn without using conventions common in furry art. They have actual foxheads rather than 'vaguely fox-inclined' heads.
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>>52637879
That's because archetypes and classes always use the pronoun of the iconic shown. Seriously, it's true, unless the archetype clearly shows a differently-gendered character to showcase it (and even then sometimes they forget), a class always refers to the gender of the iconic. So Fighters use He in reference to Valeros, Sorcerers use She due to Seoni, etc.
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>>52637772
This page? The official art is WAY fucking better, and has gotten me to start warming up to them. They're goofy and if I REALLY want to still sperg about it, I can just point at the ART (conveniently on the same page) for them. Still like yokai a little better, but that's mostly just a difference in function now.
Ignoring Yokai, Tengu are the cooler Animal Person race, though. Shame they didn't get any good, fun ALL-DAY feats.

>>52637879
Isn't the shit wearing Ezren's clothes, or something at least visually similar? There's also no visible chest. Pretty sure all the official kitsune art has an obvious chest, even the armored ones.
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>>52637929
It looks a little more like the Arcanist's clothes
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>>52637894
...I'm pretty sure that still means they're furry, though.

Not knocking them, just saying that kinda sounds like splitting hairs.
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>>52637929

Not all women have boobs, anon. In fact, some women have penises.

The page uses female pronouns for a female character.
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>>52637947
I had to actually look because I actually forgot the hybrid classes even got iconics. It kinda looks like a mix of the two, if you ask me.
Holy shit the arcanist iconic is a halfling?
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>>52637984
And from the looks of things, a stacked one at that.
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>>52637894
Because I'm an idiot, what would ya say are the main, big differences between PF-kitsune and generic furry foxes? I don't trawl through those boards.

>>52637929
Gonna be super honest, I like Kitsune as douchebag tricksters. Same with Tengu as being SHINY addicted thieves, and... now that I think about it

I want to play a grumpy old grippli summoner whose eidolon is a bigger frog.

>>52637984
Yes, the iconic arcanist is a Halfling! She's super cute, I wanna pinch those cheeks!

The Iconic Slayer also isn't half-bad, neither is the iconic Hunter
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>>52638003
I'm more a fan of short hair and muscles, so it's the Brawler that revs my engine.
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>>52637999

That's an average bust, anon. Seoni is an example of stacked.
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>>52638003

The Iconic Hunter is turbo-cute, especially after the newest book showing non-WAR art.
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>>52637984
Is she wearing a bunch of hands of Fatima that are all giving the bird?

>>52638023
Meh, stacked for a halfling, anyhow.
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Who makes a better shape-shifter caster, a Brown-fur Transmuter Arcanist or a Transmutation school Wizard (due to discoveries like idealize)
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>>52637984
>>52637929
And then Ezren's outfit for comparison. Maybe it's just that they're all blue robes that's making me think it's a mix. Fucking wizards, all dressing in the same kinds of outfits.

>>52637999
>>52638003
Halflings deserve to be loved.
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>>52637674
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ok weird question, has anyone actually ever played any of DHB's classes? If so how are they? Does anyone have like a review or guide for them? Or just pointers?
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>>52637969
It is splitting hairs more or less, yeah.

But artstyle is very relevant. Like, compare the art Augunas gets (Particularly the faces) to the art Paizo gets, and to pictures of fox faces.

>>52638003
Mostly the faces and head shape. Furry art tends towards a much more samey kind of face, even a lot of the more skilled artists fall into this trap. This is because they learned to draw furries from other furry art, so it's a self-perpetuating cycle.

On the other hand, it looks like the artist of Paizo's stuff was entirely separate from that. They saw 'foxpeople' and looked at actual pictures of foxes, resulting in headshape that actually looks like that of a fox, very pointy.

It's an aesthetic I really like, personally. Like there's that one picture I keep swearing I've saved but haven't, of a group of three catpeople adventurers fighting off some dudes, and they have actual catfaces. It's similar to the effect created by Monster Hunter's Felynes.
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>>52638057
Probably the Arcanist. They get an exploit that's basically Natural Spell, while the Wizard, by most RAI, won't be able to cast while he's a big fuckoff bear.
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How much of a threat are orcs at low levels?
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>>52638037

Halflings are half-sized humans, that bust on a human would be average, ergo it is average on a Halfling.

A bust can only be considered stacked if it's equal to or greater than the protrusion of her nose.
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>>52638034
Someone posted the art of her in the MHH. Wasn't there also art of Zadim in that book? I
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>>52638091
Ah

And can you do natural-spell stuff with the spheres Alteration sphere? I'm trying to understand that mess
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>>52638066
how do I Nick Wilde in pathfinder, anons?
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Who's the most short stack /pfg: game character? I've noticed that 90% of /pfg/ game women are giantess.
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>>52638087
DID SOMEONE SAY "compare to the art Augunas gets"? BECAUSE I THINK I READ "compare to the art Augunas gets"!

>>52638100
Can someone post the full page with her art? Because I forgot to save it, and it had that ONE GOOD FEAT IN THE ENTIRE BOOK on it.
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>>52638114
Aranha
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>>52638114
DHB's Essa is 5'0" and 32I.
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>>52638129
>an actual spider
>stacked

all her weight is low, though?
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>>52638114
Aurora wants to be, but no one in Dragons 2 counts
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>>52638103
There's a list of what Forms can provide Verbal and Somatic components in the shapeshifter book.

But recall that you don't have those components unless you take them.
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>>52638063
Ezren is the best iconic by the pure fact that in the comics and audio dramas he's effectively a muscle wizard.
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>>52638129
She's got booty, not titties.
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>>52638114
fucking lameeka

how has nobody posted her

literally smolder
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>>52638114

Lameeka is ultimate shortstack. Onryou is ultimate muscle-girl. Calscihedrix is ultimate bombshell. Valeriya is ultimate superheroine.
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>>52638226
What is Essa? What is she the ultimate of?
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>>52638226
Rinka is ultimate NERD
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>>52638263
Rory is shittiest DOG
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>>52638226
>Valeriya is ultimate superheroine.

>The Punisher with tits
>Ultimate superheroine

Nigga, how high are you?
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What does Jolly have to print to get on the first page of the trove hall of fame?
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>>52638141
Get Calsi's player to retrain their human form feat and go Small size
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>>52638339
Rory is cutest dog. I want to pet his head and tell him everything's okay. I still love him. even though he shit on my carpet.
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>>52635401
I danced with a vampire queen and made out with one of her thralls. A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
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>>52638396

I'm not talking about personality, silly, I'm talking about body type.

The ultimate superheroine has large boobs, a fit body, and an awesome booty, just like bombshells are supposed to have massive breasts and a wild hourglass figure, or shortstacks have wide hips and huge butts.
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>>52638410
Rory is a mixed-bag. I'm unsure about him.
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>>52638498
Try talking to him. No memes. No shitting. Just say hi. You'd be surprised.
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>>52638674
What is he even like past the memes and shitting? There's so much of it that it's impossible to tell what is and isn't factual about him.
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Tell me, /pfg/, do you have any races or character types you gravitate towards all the time?

Me, I always seem to use tieflings as my go-to race. There's something about them that I just love.
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>>52638730

He's very friendly and talkative.
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>>52638730
Like I said. I still love him. So I cannot be a impartial observer. Just give him a chance, is all I ask.
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>>52638730
He's a dork who doesn't think things through.

Not a bad person, just kinda dumb.
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>>52638760

90% of the time I make Human men.

5% of the time I go Tiefling men.

5% I go other men.

I've never played a Halfling, Gnome, half-orc or woman before.
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>>52638760
I tend not to stray from Humans, Goblinoids, or Orcs.

So humans given the nature of most campaigns.
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>>52638770

W-What about the other memesters of /pfg/? How is Argentum, or Wist, or Krim, or Captain Slow?
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>>52638775
>woman
Why? Are you a sexist? You think women inferior? You just can't give up that white male privilege you enjoy so much?
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>>52638789
They're all qts.
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>>52637894
I wish there wasn't a furry roleplay that uses his fursona as his actual token in my game
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>>52638789
Captain Slow is a great guy, very friendly, not a mean bone in his body, same with Krim. No comment on Wist or Argentum.

>>52638770
If that's what you say, then he can't be THAT bad.
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>>52638789
Wist is a super sweetheart. Kind. Supportive. The ideal mother. Imagine Goatmom from Undertale. That's Wist.
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>>52638789
We're all degenerates here. Everybody acts polite, jokes around, shitposts, but let's not pretty it up--we're all just here to get off or one-up each other. Everyone's just waiting for someone else to show a moment of weakness.
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>>52638760
traps
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>>52638904
But not members of The Illewdminatti.
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Can Paladins play a role conspiracies and cloack and dagger shennigans, or are they too straightforwards, even if the rogue directing htem is his brother?
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>>52638970
No. Paladins are lawful fucking faggot stupid.
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>>52635321
You could make it so javelins can be used as a swift action, but only after a move action or double move action.
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>>52638937
It's just a matter of time, really, until they turn on each other. It's the same with everyone. They find their price, or their breaking point, and then it just all falls apart.
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>>52638970
Yes.
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>>52638970
>cloack
>cloaca and dagger
really makes you think
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>>52638970
The big thing is that they can't lie. As long as they believe they're working towards the greater good, and don't lie, they can do whatever they want. In fact, a paladin would be a great boon to conspirators because everybody knows they can't lie, but few identify the fact that they can mislead with half-truths.
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>>52638760
Human, Ifrit, or Aasimar high Int, high Cha, low Wisdom usually Dex based as well.

Almost always from a middle-high class household, comfortable childhood, no dead parents, etc. Either takes up adventuring due to sheer boredom, or because they want to be a hero.

Invariably ends poorly.
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>>52638760
>tfw it's usually Humans and their multitude of half-breed variants
>and when it's not that, it's Halflings and Gnomes
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Is it wrong to want to exclude one of your players because he sucks at math?
I feel like an asshole and I know it's his first PF campaign but god dammit dude, we've been playing together for 12 levels and it still takes you five minutes every round to work out fucking power attack math.
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>>52638760
I always liked 3.5's changelings. Pity there doesn't seem to be anything comparable in PF.
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speaking of Rory on a personal level has anyone interacted with DHB on one? What is he like?
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>>52638760
HUMANITY! FUCK YEAH!
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>>52638904

All of those people applied to lewd games though.
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>>52639134

Oh god, the HFY story that started them all.
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>>52639134
HFY is honestly reminiscient of AFY. Both of them tend to be shit.
That being said, that thread doesn't look like a HFY thread.
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I've been under a rock for the last few threads

Did someone seriously nameswap the Bon-bon logs to make it gnoll logs? And it got more attention?

What the fuck is wrong with you people?
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>>52639097

Do the math for him.
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>>52639166
We're dangerous hackers.
>>
How long does it take to improve your mental calculus, if you are used to calculators?
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>>52639166
Got the originals?
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>>52639166
no
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>>52639165
>honestly reminiscent of

That was presumably intentional.
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>>52639209
I do.

But I don't share logs. Even ones leaked to me. Sorry. Not Sorry.
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Is investing a part of my WBL into making Leshy Flytraps viable? Any tips on raising that 50% success chance of succeeding at planting one if the campaign is not exactly geared towards it?

I kinda like the idea of having a Leshy amalgam as a scaling companion for my Druid, but at 3k GP a pop with only 50% chance of succeeding, I'm not sure it's worth it.
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Besides underwater escort missions and non-binary purple-haired Azlanti pirates, what do you want to see out of the next AP?
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>>52639274
>underwater escort missions
Kojima pls...
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>>52639274
Part 1 should be about putting together a team to venture to the lost Azlanti ruins. I call dibs on the mechanic waifu.
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>>52639274
Can I post the Razmir's Triumph outline again?
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>>52638760
I've always had a soft spot for sylphs, though I don't make many characters of that race.

Humans > Tieflings > Halflings > other strays
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Is Pathfinder the League of Legends of tabletop role-playing games?
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>>52639300
I call playing the weird little tinker that may or may not actually be a disguised mole.
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>>52639300

Oh my god I need this for that campaign.

I call dibs on the Andoran-raised Mwangi medic.

What is the Mexico of Golarion, for the mechanic?
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>>52639113
Anyone?
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>>52639232
Problem is, they ain't ironic, and neither is AFY.
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>>52639305
You mean your fan-fiction? Have you written the scene where you get Daddy Razmir's cummies yet?
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>>52639328
Probably should just go with Korvosa for a pseudo-Spain. Maybe somewhere further out in Varisia.
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>>52639317

Is that game burning as much as people want it to burn? I recall Bioware actually releasing a patch to fix the faces AND promised the next game has absolutely nothing to do with Ryder or the Pathfinders.
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>>52639317
It's the Mass Defect: Andromedia of tapletop roll-praying gays.
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>>52639274
Merfolk and Gillmen and maybe playable Sahuagin?
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>>52639300
From left to right,
>Andoren
>Andoren
>Shoanti
>Chelish
>Korvosan
>Galtan
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>>52639340
Just let them have their fun, ya know? Keeps them too occupied to do any real damage.
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>>52639345
I finished the part where Cayden forces the Taldor royals off their asses to call a new Shining Crusade.
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>>52639386
>Cayden
>Crusade
Anon, I...
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>>52639262
No love for Leshies here?
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>>52639403
Anon, the crusades were always chaotic aligned. and since this is a fictional world them being good is possible, the original shining crusade was
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>>52639379

>Dr. Sweet
>Shoanti
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>>52638760
I play mostly Half-Elves, Humans, Changelings with little sprinklings of other races. All of them are mostly female for reasons I can't really specify. They all just end up that way.

I've never actually played a Halfling despite how much I like them as a race. I guess it's because they don't really benefit from going martial and that's pretty much all I ever play. I could go mounted but I don't particularly like that playstyle.
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>>52639436
>Half-native american
>Dead ringer for Sheriff Hemlock
Close enough.
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>>52638760
Dwarf, Human, Goblinoids, Orcs, Half-orc
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>>52639425
They need more content
They're so fucking adorable.

>>52639369
What exactly went wrong with massive affect?
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>>52639464
It had some bad facial animation and people claimed that meant the entire game was bad without ever actually playing it

Its pretty good in reality
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>>52638760
I gravitate towards Dex/Int races/classes and it's starting to infuriate me, but there's not much I can do about that. Tieflings are my go-to race whenever I start thinking about a new character, while Alchemist and Investigator are my go-to classes. Elves have that -con that kind of hurts to look at, which means I've yet to play one, but they're cool as well, and Magus... Well, it looks functional enough that I want to try it at least once. The race that I just can't seem to stop playing, though? Half-elves. Fucking half-elves. The ART for the Will save bonus that stacks with Iron Will puts a nice patch over my paranoia like nobody's business, and they're general purpose enough to fit anything.

Like, 99% of my characters are dudes, because I don't really trust myself to play a woman most of the time. The one time I made and played one it was #83, so that doesn't count.
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>>52639464
>What exactly went wrong with massive affect?
SJWs.
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>>52639432

>Shining Crusade
>The three people who beat Tar-Baphon was Iomedae, a woman of color and a black man
>The person who slew the Lizardfolk's god was a hot chick in legionnaire armor
>Milani was a famous revolutionary before ascending to goddesshood

I guess white guys were too busy beating their wives to get off their asses and save the world.
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>>52639357
>>52639464
>rehashed plot and characters
>stiff and stale combat
>boring themepark open world
Does kind of sound like PF desu
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>>52639450

Which was Dr. Sweet's dad? Sounds like a mixed kid from Almas.

Wait, is Almas NYC, or is that Augustana?
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>>52639484

I wonder why that guy is angry at me.

MAYBE BECAUSE I SHOT HIM IN THE FACE.
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Can you go around with a spear/polearm and a bow without looking awkward?
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>>52639485
Build a STR/CHA intimidator insinuator antipaladin, anon. It could be fun!
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>>52639464
1. ME III fucked up the game so bad they literally moved house 2 million light years - but that's in the past
2. SJW bullshit and virtue signalling, focusing on civil commentary instead of good gameplay, which comes hand in hand with boring, flat, unengaging characters
3. boring, stale, lacking gameplay not helped by an extremely barebones plot that looked as if it belonged on a brainstorming chart, not the released game
4. le open world meme
5. janky dialogue and animations, but esp. dialogue and logic that borders on incomprehensible at times
6. Poor level of polish all around

>>52639569
Yes, that's what samurai did. In fact, that's what most horse archers did, since they were on horses after all and the spear is the king of battle on a horse (and on foot but durr sword mythos).
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>>52639581

Isn't your face tired from saying all that, anon?

>My dad is dead *smiles*
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>>52639600
>dad
The patriarchy strikes again!
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Can someone answer a stupid question for me?

When I read a monster statblock, and it lists three natural attacks (Bite and two claws for example), that's only on a full attack action, right? If they have to move, they can only use one of them?
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>>52639519
Yeah, probably one of those. Almas is more Washington DC/Philadelphia, Augustana is the port town (I think, might have those mixed up).
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>>52639496
Don't worry, Cayden is alesexual so I managed to slip him in.
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>>52639496
>yfw you realize black people are the perfect adventurers
>they always leave their families and wives before they can become a burden
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>>52639620
Yes.
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>>52639464
Does this look adorable to you?
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>>52639650
Racist.
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Quick question: I'm looking at the description for using a gauntlet, and it states
>This metal glove lets you deal lethal damage rather than nonlethal damage with unarmed strikes. A strike with a gauntlet is otherwise considered an unarmed attack.
>lets you deal...rather than nonlethal

Does this mean someone using a gauntlet can still deal nonlethal if they want to (without -4 penalty)?
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>>52639669
>Tonight...you.
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>>52639669
I wanna rub its belly for good luck
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>>52639669
That's not a leashy in the way kitsune aren't fluffy.
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>>52639620

Yeah and that's why if you want to ruin a players day, give a monster POUNCE.
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>>52639669
Is it weird if I say yes?
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>>52639689
Would you say that noticeably increases the CR?
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>>52639622
>Almas is Philadelphia
Enchanted cheesesteak when?

>>52639650
I'll have you know it was my mother who left.
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>>52639700
Only slightly.
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>>52639581

RedLetterMedia did the best review of Andromeda I've ever seen.
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>>52639262
>Amalgam (Ex)

>Multiple flytrap leshys can combine themselves temporarily into a single creature, to a maximum of 25 leshys.

>Each leshy beyond the first grants the amalgam 1 Hit Die, and it gains a size category at 9, 12, 18, and 30 Hit Dice. The amalgam has a number of bite attacks equal to the number of bites of all component leshys combined, but only two flytrap hands attacks. If the amalgam drops below 0 hit points, it dissolves, and the damage is divided among the component leshys.

>(up to)27 natural primary attacks
>Gains sizes and HDs
>Plant, electricity and sonic immunities as well as Resist fire 5

Am I crazy or does that sound good?
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>>52639650

You really haven't been keeping up with the black people in Golarion, have you?
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Has anyone sent a PM to their roll20 crush yet? Did they respond positively if so? Or have you received a PM yet? If so, please consider their feelings. They took a big risk. Don't hurt them unnecessarily.
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What are good archetypes that stack with Artistic Summoner (the painting focused one that gets Summon Monster)? How well does it interact with Legendary Kineticist from LK 2? What gestalts well with it?
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>>52639706

I would say that it's a noticable CR increase yes, it's a mid level ability that gives the monster the ability to royally fuck up a PC if they win initiative.
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>>52639581

They hired the writer of Halo 4 to write Andromeda, I guess that's why the antagonists are basically Prometheans.

White people weren't included in the original game because every actor they used to do faces was black or brown, so that had to get patched in.

Bioware gushed about the romantic options being so new now, yet it's hardly any different than any of their other games.

Ryder was "supposed" to sound like a dumb awkward newbie, but Bioware has promised we won't be working with Ryder or the Pathfinders in the next game so we can't see the greenhorn sharpen his claws a little. It's literally the "I'm a quirky loser" without the development.

The game was given over to a collection of newbies and losers in a brand-new studio explicitly to make Andromeda. How does that make you feel, that Bioware had so much faith and confidence in their illustrious franchise that they gave it to literally who and Curry Thunder?

The facial animations are inexcusably bad, and any way to say it was due to rushing a game 5 years in development was erased by Bioware releasing a patch to "fix" it a week after release.

All this from the company that burned as many bridges as it can with the release of ME3, and says "fuck you, pay me PLEASE!" When this game got out.
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>>52635656
Soulknife with Focused Offense blade skill. You can combine this with the Augmented Blade archetype to still use actual weapons.
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>>52639796
fuck you for making me check. I almost felt wanted.
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>>52639910
You and me both. I keep pressing F5, hoping to see that envelop change colors. Truely, this is Hell.
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>>52639940

>when that envelope changes to pink on the day of a picking

Is there any better feeling?
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>>52639940
honestly, with how little presence I have here, I'd be surprised if someone did send me something.
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>>52639940
I could PM you, anon.
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>>52639966

PM the cutie with that character you want to play with! Right now!
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>>52638136
Does it really count given that she wears a bra of holding all the time, though?
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>>52639951
I've not yet experience that.

>>52639966
But if I'm not your crush, what's the point? Don't PM someone who isn't your crush.
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>>52639983
I don't have any links to any games!
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>>52639796
Yeah, right.

No text-charisma, pitched a game nobody liked, and known only for things people heap ridicule on me for?

I should just count my lucky stars I'm not getting hate mail.
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>>52640033
Cent?
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>>52640033
Rory?
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>>52640033
I like you, Rory.
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>>52640050
>>52640037
>>52640067
Wrong on all counts.
>>
Open world or railroading?
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>>52639796
Now you're making me sad that I haven't memed hard enough to get any PMs like that.
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>>52640077
Toad! I'm sorry. I would have applied to your game but...

I honestly didn't see the appeal.

But still, I like you as a person.
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>>52640083
I'd rather be pushed through a story than get the GM and other players pissed off at me for not being able to develop my own side quests.

Open world games sound good until you realize that nobody has any direction, the players all want someone else to write a story for them, and the GM expects us to write his story for him.
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>>52640092
You don't have to meme to get liked. It's on a character by character basis.
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>>52640093
Y'know, it's probably better that nobody's actually guessing it right--at least now I won't have to worry about disappointing or offending anyone.
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>>52640106
Now I'm even sadder!
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>>52640110
Well, who are you then? Post in the build help channel.
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>>52640098

In cause of doubt, plot to take over the kingdom.
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>>52640110
Vult?
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>>52640033
Espangnoll?
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>>52640153
PLD is going fine though
>>
http://www.strawpoll.me/12720682
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>>52640193
PLD is going comfy and rapey
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What would be the maximum memes game? How would you structure chargen rules for a maximum memes cast of characters?
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>>52640200
>those logs
I actually feel sorry for Bon-Bon.
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>>52640222
grippli, kitsune, and skinwalkers only
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>>52640187
He shat all over his players last Sunday, I heard
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>>52640229
HIPPITY
HOPPITY
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>>52640110
Apparently it's Rubio's player, also known as LoBaF's GM
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>>52640237
But LoBaF has been memed regularly.
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>>52640237
That can't be right
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>>52640222
All PCs must have the Swallow Whole ability.
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>>52639996

What games do you want to PM?
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>>52640083
An incredibly wide pipe that is tilted at a slight downward angle. You can move in the current left or right, and you can pause and maybe loiter around, but at some point, you have to keep moving.

>>52640274
Blingmaker, Shardwalkers, WWW, and BitF!
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>>52640246
>>52640254
>setting gets called shit
>overshadowed by PLD until the last minute
>only memes it picked up were because of DHB
>HON HON HON
...Yeah, I can see a picture forming.
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>>52640286
Just start PMing. We're required by law to be polite.
>>
Are Akashic classes actually good? As in, are they well-balanced and also above tier 5?
I'm very very interested in one specific veil, but I don't know if I want to go all-in on veil stuff.
I actually know almost nothing about this stuff, so if it's easy to just snap up a veil with a feat or something, please let me know.
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>>52640303
I don't have links to the actual games though
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>>52640286
But who in those games? Care to give us any hints on the lucky recipients?
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>>52640286
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/72295/wild-weird-west
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/73064/blingmaker
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/70552/shardwalkers
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/73477/blood-in-the-fangwood
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Hi, throwing this out here again in hopes people will come help develop and playtest new tech and firearm homebrew for PF I am rolling out.

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/73938/rhusae
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>>52640325
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/72295/wild-weird-west
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/73064/blingmaker
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/70552/shardwalkers
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/73477/blood-in-the-fangwood
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>>52640260
>making a qt girl Druid who transforms into a Giant Toad to swallow up her enemies

Are there any other Large animals with swallow whole?
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>>52640325
Oh. Okay.

I'll help you.

Or rather this other anon would.

>>52640339


I still hope I'm one you PM. It would make me so happy.
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>>52640340
>https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/73938/rhusae
>it has ruse right in the name
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>>52640349
Gingerbread Witch?
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>>52640328
I'm swearing myself to secrecy, anon. I refuse to tell you

>>52640351
Who are you anon? I'm very bad at following hints
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>>52640369
If it's someone you like, I'll definitely reply positively. If not, well, don't worry about me.
>>
>>52640355
There's a pretty obvious reason why that game and mighty morphin bamboozle rangers don't get mentioned in the list of /pfg/ recruitments.
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>>52638092
THICK GREEN CRITS
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>>52640226
I want to purify Bon-Bon with the cleansing power of hugs!
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>>52640198
>/pfg/ confirmed 50% Autism
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>>52638114
Milre
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>>52640449

Gloriana can literally do that!
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>>52639796
I really want to PM a cute Roll20, but I'm afraid of rejection.
>>
>>52640466
RoryAnon will never reject you!
>>
>>52640454
Never trust the quality of self-reported statistics, anon.
>>
>thinking of deleting my app for Shardwalkers and making a new one like 3 days before close

Just fuck my shit up senpai
>>
>>52640466
Don't worry about rejection, there's no way valeriya would give you the time of day.
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>>52640466
I love you anon.
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>>52640466
PM __me__!
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>>52640466
PM whoever you want. They're like sharks, they're tsundere but more afraid of you than you are of them.
>>
>>52640349
What happens to swallowed enemies after she shifts back to human?
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>>52640355
its not a ruse i promise
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>>52640514
Are you cute?
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>>52640545
RIGHT
IN
THE
NAME
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>>52640466
I am also a coward.
>>52640533
But what if You're the Tsun?
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>>52640554
[spoiler[I think I am.
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>>52640538
She gets a nice full tummy. I have no idea actually, I guess she could just digest in animal form. Or they shrink to accommodate.
>>
>>52640555
It's a real campaign. Sp00k_E put way too much effort over the course of last year and then some to get the setting ready for this game.
>>
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>keep spamming F5
>no new PMs
I should just go to sleep now. I was foolish.
>>
>>52640461
I know! That's the plan!
>>
Should females have armpit hair and go around un-shaved?
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>>52640612
NO
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>>52640595
PM someone! You'll get one back!
>>
Anyone know where I can find or can link me to a conversation of isle of the ape to pathfinder or at least 3.5?
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>>52640595
Anon, who are you playing! I'll PM you!
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>>52640612
Only if they're filthy Chelaxians, Varisians, Mwangi, or Taldans. Those of Ulfen, Shoanti, Kellid, Vudrani, or Garundi descent are much more clean than them.
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>>52640509
L O N D O N
O
N
D
O
N
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>>52640595
Same here buddy. Matter of fact, I've been spending most of my day like that.

...suddenly Katapesh DM's discord handle makes a lot more sense.
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>>52640571
Post something cute, then.
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>>52640612
only if they're gyarus
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>>52640626

What's the matter anon, intimidated by women closer to nature?
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>>52640612

Which meme characters shave and which do not?
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>>52640721
Which option do you find more disgusting?
All of them do that.
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>>52640637

That would be in the Trove if it exists, but isn't that a Greyhawk adventure?
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>>52640653
That and, thinking about it, the fact that every one of his characters has been "I act cool but just want to have friends".
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>>52639796
Anons! Who is your Roll20/ /pfg/ crush?
>>
When an effect mentions hard cover, does it mean improved cover or total cover?
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>>52640753
Rory
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>>52640753
_____You!
>>
>>52640753
Big red
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>>52640776

Probably improved cover, since Total Cover is a complete "you can't get hit."
>>
>>52640317
Yes they're above Tier 5, the Daevic is one of the best murderhobos in the game, able to achieve over 1k+ DPR for instance.
>>
>>52640753
Quinn!
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>>52640750
Awww, poor guy just needs a hug. Maybe someone can bond with him over some french bread
>>
>>52640753

I want to PM Iolanthe and do something with my character!
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What's my best class option for being a tank? Literally, a tank. I want to wear full plate and have a powerful ranged attack.

Right now I'm thinking about playing a Spherecaster that gets heavy armor access, probably Warpriest, and focusing on the Destruction sphere. You guys got any ideas?
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>>52640889

GUN TANK
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>>52640753
No one.
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>>52640871
Do it!
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>>52639485

I'm surprised no one has used that art for a half-Elf Aldori Swordswoman for Blingmaker yet.
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How do we fix guns, /pfg/?
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>>52639485
I want to hug you anon >:C
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>tfw no roll20 pms
>tfw know no one is going to send me one because they would have weeks ago
I blame the Diamond Dogs
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If you fug Greta in human mode and impregnate her, does she give birth to

A) A litter of [insert pc race]
B) A single [insert pc race]
C) A litter of wolf pups
D) A single wolf pup

One of my players just dicked the wolf and I need to figure out how to make him pay child support accurately.
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Hey guys, so my current campaign is drawing to a close and the DM wants to start up a new one. I'm not sure if she's doing an AP, but the odds are good it will be a custom campaign.

I've just spent the last campaign playing a Slayer, what should I try out now, assuming full 1pp and a level 3 start? I played a Bloodrager and I didn't have a lot of fun.
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>>52641117
Play a cute Hunter with a pet dinosaur!
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>>52641100

Are they still in The Howlings? It would be two or three of [insert PC race] if they are.

Humanoid babies that turn into wolves when they leave the Howlings.
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>>52640900
I said "powerful ranged attack" and firearms certainly do not fit that criteria
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>>52641152

Heavily armored Avowed (Elemental) launching lightning through their boomstick.
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>>52638760
Almost always human (or elf). I'll use other humanoid races if my character concept involves it, but I generally default to human when race doesn't play a factor.

I almost never play a race that doesn't look mostly human-like, also.
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>>52641178
Is that the Not!Warlock homebrew?
I've neglected to look into it. I suppose I'll do it now. Thanks for the tip, anon.
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Could you love a scarred girl. /pfg/? What if she was broken goods? If you found her at the bottom of a bottle?
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How would you stat the Bhagaba as a PC race? That is, avatars of a vast planet-sized supercomputer made out of coral that just so happened to develop sapience after the movement of rock and coral formed basic transistors and circuit boards.

What would the Mental Attributes of a hivemind even be?
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>>52641245
Yes, yes, and yes.
If I'm not any good on my own, then at least maybe I could help someone else feel better.
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>>52641207

Yeah, the Avowed is Not!Warlock and has options for getting heavy armor proficiency.

The blasts can be channeled through a firearm or bow too, meaning your rifle can do 1d12+3d8
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>>52641245
She sounds cute! Tell me more!
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>>52641245
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>>52641245
I would convince her into thinking that I had good intentions is kind to her solely because I am naturally a kind man until she inevitably becomes emotionally reliant on me.

At that point she will become an asset to be subtly manipulated into helping me get my way and I may even go to lengths to take care of her but only as long as having her around outweighs losing her.

Eventually I will spend her for great personal gain and that will be that.
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>>52641245
What if you instead found her in the bottom of a mine, smelling like troll?
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>>52641245

How broken are we talking here?
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>>52641340
I'd hug her until she was pure again!
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>>52641245
Probably not. But I'd take it as a challenge to rebuild a human. Making people into the best they can be gets my dick hard
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>>52641371
The kind of mental instability that makes you wonder what pit of hell they were forced down into, and then had to crawl back out of.
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>>52641387
You need a feat for that!
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>>52641402

What caused this girl to get that broken?
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>>52641276
Sleep, seriously, just PM someone. Hell, call someone. Anything.
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>>52641409
I have a feat for that! It works with smooches too!
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>>52641419

>Smooches

Only for girls! You can't smooch boys!
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>>52641432
Watch me!
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>making a Kitsune
>dumping Cha

I feel like I'm harming kitsunefags simply by doing it
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>>52640538
Either they are puked out, they get to do a roll to get out or burst out or they are crushed
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>>52641472
Autismsune is the best way to go
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>>52641279
Not if it's a touch attack, then it's reduced by half.
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>>52641276
I feel the same way homeslice
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Divine heretic.
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