Weekly MTG Spoilers thread

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>>52634655
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>>52634665
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>>52634685
Huh, seems reasonably costed, though I was hoping for more removal or counter spells for blue.

>>52634665
>4 mana 2/2
>not even instant
We have both Shamble Back and Vile Rebirth. This could have been two mana.

>>52634685
commander bait

>>52634746
It does cost 2 mana, there's just an additional 2 mana tax put on it for being stapled to another card

>>52634895
idk anon, it's instant, so if you hold up fatcaster mana and don't need the fatcaster it digs you four cards and nets two. It might just be good enough as a one of in gearhulk focused control decks.

>>52634951
I don't know, I feel like scry 2 -- draw2 +2 energy for 4 mana is equal

>>52634685

Instant makes it pretty good in commander

>>52635090
This one is more flexible when casting from hand. I think they're pretty equal overall.

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JACETICE LEAGUR GET OFF MY PLANE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>52635199
That's gotta be fake where's the number crunch

>>52634665
FUCKING SORCERY FUCK OFF WIZARD YOU DUMB CUNTS

>>52635090
I don't think you'd drop a glimmer for it, but I feel like you wouldn't miss an anticipate

>>52635199
The "your hand" typo seals this as fake.

>>52635199

lies

>>52635243
What typo

>>52635266
It should be "its owners hand" othewise you end up with cards you don't own in your hand if control ever exchanges.

>>52635266
It should be "owner's hand". They word it this way so people don't accidentalyl steal cards

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EDH / 10
Still doesn't stop the set from being Kamigawa 2.0: Shit Cards Errywhere Boogaloo

>>52635363
Cards in hand matters really makes it feel like Kamimgawa

>>52635363
Saw cycling and I got excited about reliving the best decks of Odyssey Onslaught standard.

I am now left with the ash of Sweep and Epic in my mouth

>>52635363
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/the-aftermath-of-amonkhet
On a related note, here is a full explanation on why Aftermath is complete shit in every way. Design, framing, function, playability, etc.

>>52635199
>tits that large and prominent on Nissa
>in the year of our lord 2017

Nice fan art, gave me a chuckle.

>>52635363
He would be so good. If there was more minotaurs worth playing.

>>52635786
There are a few good minotaurs now but they all cost 3 mana.

>>52635752
The art is definitely real, I saw it in the original leaks back in February

>>52635786
>three drop that dies to bolt and has no immediate affect on the game state
Even in Standard, shock is legal right now.

>>52635363
>support for minotaur tribal years after Theros

what did WOTC mean by this

>>52635823
Mhm, sure. If that art is real then I'll go pre-order a foil copy of it and post a cummed on version of it in the next Modern thread after release.

>>52635835
EDH, and casuals more generally.

>>52635847

the card isn't real, just the art is. it's been used in promotional stuff.

>>52635363
Are they REALLY trying to push Hellbent this set?

>>52635363
Wow a pretty interesting legendary lord for EDH that literally no one that plays the format asked for. Meanwhile Ishkana and The legendary Werewolf that I can't even remember the name of are huge misfires. Who is in charge of this??

If there are any Minotaur lovers out there, congrats I guess? Bet you would have loved this when Theros was around.

>>52635877
That's what he's saying you chucklefuck.
"if that art is real"

I'm giving you shit because you can't read. Imagine the trouble you'd have caused if this were about a more complicated matter than a fake card with real art.

>>52635877
"Art is real" as in it is really on the card. Obviously the art actually exists SOMEWHERE. This is the definition of arguing semantics.

>>52635956
He called it fan art, someone else said the art is real, clearly he meant "official WotC artwork" not "art that exists" you fucking troglodyte

>>52635833
Yeah, I was talking about limited. And dies to shock isn't really what determined is a card is good or bad.

>>52635956
Are you fucking retarded?

>>52635485
I think this author was in a bit too much of a hurry to shit on the mechanic. Failure//Comply for example doesn't really compare to any of the cards they brought in as examples, being a 2cmc permission card with a Silence-like effect stapled to it. Is it the best thing since sliced bread? No no it's not. Are most of the Aftermath cards uninspired and/or underpowered? Yes, I think that's a fair statement.

But I think it's a little hasty to say that all of them are shit, and I think a lot of the comparisons people are making to other cards are shaky.

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The art is real, it belongs to Wizards, the card from facebook is fake fake fake.

Let us move on.

>>52635989
Yes we are both aware that the art is real. Where it came from doesn't matter we were talking about the obvious fake card. It's not my fault he can't form his sentences correctly.

>>52636011
You clearly are if you think that fanart being real means that the art on that card is real.

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More aftermath garbage

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>>52636053
>there are still (STILL) people who don't understand that Nissa tits are allowed on everything except the box art, because of the ESRB

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>actually deemed too powerful for Standard

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>>52636023
It's funny how prepare-to-fight is looked at THREE times and it failed to state that it's strictly better than Moment of Heroism and the "untap" clause actually makes it playable.

>>52636053
nissa is a sexy

>>52635485
That was retarded. He basically said that the mechanic is bad because the cards that have it are mostly not viable in constructed formats.
The mechanic is literally a combination of flashback and split cards.

>>52635485
This is Desolator-tier bad.
Wow.

>>52636124
It's not too bad.

>>52635363
why wouldn't they ake the bility "minotaurs you control have first strike" instead of giving him first strike?

>>52636124
Feels like it was printed in the wrong order.
>I'm going to cast a spell that requires limited mana
>and the Aftermath will limit your mana

I guess throw one into the yard, and cast a second from hand?
But we're way over costed for these. I'd rather have the Aftermath in the yard and then cast some other counterspell. Reduce is shit.

>>52636235
Because he would lose first strike if you changed his creature type to Octopus.

>>52636235
Because you know some guy would get arsey about it.

>>52636235
They always word it that way (with the sole exception of slivers) because people are dumb and think it doesn't apply to the creature itself unless you have to jump through some hoop to get it.
Though it also means that if he ever becomes not a minotaur, he still has first strike.

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I don't know how to feel about this, somehow it managed to be worse than Aether Revolt

>>52636235
They did this on the Warrior lords in Tarkir as well.
It's to simplify bookkeeping, except back in Tarkir, it actually ruined the cards because it meant Chief of the Edge, with Power 3, can't be pulled out of the graveyard by Alesha.

So, ultimately it's a bad idea, but Wizards will do it anyway.

>>52636124
It's trash but I like it
I expect a lot of salt over this card in limited

>>52636262
I guess the point in limited is you counter their spell, wasting their turn, then next turn keep their lands tapped down.

Which assuming you have a board state of any kind sounds fine, but if you're empty and they've got shit the second half sounds awful

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>>52636134
>Yfw Camel, Desert and Desert twister won't be reprinted

>>52636282
There is a very good reason MTGO makes more than 50% of sales now. WotC can make money of things other than packs, because packs are a terrible business model at this point in the game's life cycle.

So they really aren't going to spoil any of the gods today?

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>>52636268
thank you

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>>52636156
I'd tap it.

>>52636307
Not necessarily next turn.


You just keep your gameplan going and when you reach a crucial point you cut them off one mana color.

Its a good value card.

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>>52636364
They spoiled Oketra

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>>52636370
This is triggering, Isn't it? What was the logic? Was it an oversight?

>>52635956

look you cryptonigger, the objection >>52635752 raised was that art had to be fanart because muh soggy knee or some dumb shit like that, buy the art is, in fact, WOTC promotional material. That is, it's "real".

>>52636382
i agree with you, i like the card, but 3 mana leak sounds like standard only to me.(which is not a problem, just saying)

>>52636053
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>>52636376
Nissa is a Nazi, and not even a cool Nazi like the Lorwyn Elves, she's the fantastical equivalent to one of those inbred skinhead neo-Nazis

>>52636421
Are you okay? Why are you bringing /pol/ shit into this? No one said anything about /pol/ except you.

Fuck off kiddo.

>>52636414
>First Strike + Deathtouch + Trample

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>>52636443
>not wanting to fuck a nazi

>>52636412
Wow, that one Anon a while back predicted it almost perfectly.

>>52636443
Here elf supremacist stance got retconned in Origins. She's just a boring (if fuckable) hippie now.

>>52636414
Saving text.

>>52636461
>dies to bolt until Rageblood lands
I want Wizards to print good lords that aren't for Elves or merfolk.

>>52636414
There are things that do interact with this.

if Warcaller lost his creature type, he wouldn't have haste, but if Felhide lost his creature type he would still have deathtouch.
Though I bet development doesn't really look that much into it, unless there is easy access to creature type changing.

>>52636449
>/pol/
Because he said nigger? Fucking niggers.

>>52636461
I think the issue is that Kragma Warcaller gives all minotaurs you control Haste and doesn't have it itself, which is inconsistent when compared to the other Minotaur effects in the same exact block.

>>52634655
anyone know what the lgs pay for the commander anthology?
i might be able to get it for that price and was figuring out if they suddenly become worth it.

same question for modern masters 2017 and regular boosterboxes

>>52636495
Dr. /pol/, I'm /pol/
Get on board, we'll call it in together
The Amonkhet set I filed with WotC lists me, trash cards, and one bomb mythic
First one to crack one gets $100

>>52636443
if only Nissa was a Nazi, she would have depth

>>52636506
My biggest problem with Kragma isn't even that. Haste is an ability that is only useful when played early, but he costs fucking 5, which means that he is only going to be the last to be cast.

>>52636528
Gideon of the Trials is not equivalent to Liliana of the Veil.

Please stop forcing this.
Trials Gideon is shit. SHIT.

>>52636124
That gets some points for being a fun use of red getting "lands don't untap next turn".

>>52636556
Minotaurs have another 3 drop that reduces Minotaur costs by BR. Also, he gives +2/+0.

>>52636530
She's a reformed nazi, they referenced her fuck ups in a previous story in Kaladesh block

>>52636443
She is and she isn't. At the same time.
Nothing about Nissa makes sense anymore, she has two seperate backstories that are both in use in different - and sometimes THE SAME story - and nobody knows what the fuck is going on other than 'she is from Zendikar', 'she went to Lorwyn', and 'she blew up the Eye of Ugin'. The reasons and circumstances for the latter two, of course, keep changing.
I blame Sarkhan. And WotC for trying to make Elf Hitler the face of green simply because elf with tits.

>>52636687
I think it has more to do with them making Garruk turn into an unstoppable Planeswalker murder machine and thus she was the leftover mono green walker they had to use

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>>52636679
>implying it's possible for an Obergruppenführer to repent

>>52636124
First part is not that good but I like the second part.

Atleast they didn't try to shove this into a rare slot.

>>52636687
She's just unlikeable. It's very obvious she's only there because 1. woman 2. elf 3. Garruk got too rapey

A real shame too, a badass huntsman is way cooler than multiple choice backstory soulless cliche elf.

>>52636718
They could've had that whole plotline finish with Garruk being fine again instead of deciding hunting planeswalkers is Fun.
They could've introduced another planeswalker instead of making the GB one (who happened to only have a monoG card) G.
They could have done a lot of things. Instead we got ASHAYAAA, because elf tits.

It really does annoy me how WotC is CONSTANTLY fucking up and making mistakes, but if you try to criticize them, it's nothing but smugness and "Listen, we know best, OK? The new set is going to be great".

Until the market research comes out and reveals that all the criticisms were right, and then its "We're very sorry and we've learned our lesson" and the same smugness next time around.

Fucks.

Why is fucking Never a fucking sorcery.

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>>52636852
This is why I've been buying from chinaman for the last two years.

>>52636449
>No one said anything about /pol/ except you.

The first fucking post from the idiot who thought it was fanart is a le current year meme.

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>>52636934

>>52636997
>>52636934

Guys please. Let's all calm down so we can hate on the true enemy, Wizards of the Coast

>>52637007
haha yes.
little does WotC know, I've been buying up Atogs for years. Soon, there will be a sudden and irreversible price spike. Already we are seeing the results. Ravenous Intruder has been printed, and now I am buying up copies as well.
It is only a matter of time before these cards sell for $7 a pop, much like the recent Street Wraith spike.

WotC Development Process:

1) Open desk drawer
2) Get out bottle of whiskey from drawer
3) Take long pull of sweet, sweet hooch

>>52636770
Yeah, you would want the big, burly man more than the sexy elf with big tits wouldn't you, anon

>>52637067
4) print another strong GB card or planeswalker

>>52637076
Gay lumberjacks is my favorite meme.
x4 Grim Flayer
x4 Huntermaster

Every deck.

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DAWN TO DUSK ARISTOCRATS IS BACK BABY

>>52637140
Is that Obama?

>>52637140
>>52637145
WHY ARE HAWAIIANS IN EGYPT

>>52637145
>Obama is a dissenter
>Trump is the God-Pharaoh

>>52637140
>common
Woah.

Really expected this to be uncommon at least. It's perfect for tossing -1/-1s on.

>>52637156
Alright, I'll admit I laughed.

inb4 a planeswalker as an aftermath effect, resulting in the single ugliest card ever

inb4 it's the chase mythic of the set

>>52637166
Fucking Wizards with their politics in my children's card game.
>Gatewatch is a metaphor for US foreign policy
>now Bolas is a metaphor for Trump
Wait for it.
When we head to Vryn, it's going to be ruined by Alhammarret being a metaphor for the media control of everything.

>>52636449
Welcome to 4chan you double nigger.

>>52636679
then she is not a real Nazi.

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>>52637076
Who wouldn't love these?

>>52637209
a gay

>>52637140
Is this even real? I can't find it anywhere

>>52637166
then who is Hillary Clinton? And what do the gods represent?

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>>52637209
>awful saggy cow tits
Gross.
Even Liliana is perkier and she's at least 200 years old.

>>52637256
I don't know, but that barrier thing is definitely the Trump wall and zombies are Mexicans

>>52637198
Yeah I'm sure that is the angle WotC is taking, they really know that little Timmy wants to crack packs for fat creatures, game-ruining PWs, and asinine social commentary.

>>52637198
As long as there is a propaganda reprint

>>52636616
I know that he gives +2/+0, I am also aware that there is a minotaur that reduces costs, but it is still dumb to print a haste lord that costs more than any other card in the deck.

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>>52637256
>fails trial
>cast out into the desert to be forgotten, or at best, remembered as a warning
>black has the Trial of Ambition.
>Hillary was all personal ambition, and failed it

But really, the goat head cinches the deal.

>>52637198
yah wizards definitely meant to create a complex metaphor for American politics centered around the art on a random 1B common

>>52636852
My problem is they always says that the next set is going to be great, but it never is. I don't think we got a new set that made me actually satisfied since original Innistrad.

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>>52636513
halp

>>52637302
As a straight male, the amount of people that act like a frumpy old man with a bad tan is somehow more fuckable than a miserable old woman astounds me.

>>52637303
"If your theme isn't at common, it isn't your theme"

t. MaRo

>>52637349
>As a straight male
Well thre's your problem

>>52635363
I don't even care if it's shit I really want to build a Greco-Egyptian Minotaur deck now

>>52637349
>2017
>not at least being a 1 on the Kinsey scale

It's called evolution.

>>52637352
literally never said that.
fuck off

>>52636443
We get it. Wizards didn't make Elvish Perfect a Planeswalker. You're STILL mad about it half a decade after the nebulous movie poster version of her didn't become what she really is. Go make a snowflake Planeswalker into an elf supremacist. Go pay a Nath deck. Go do something other than beating a dead horse that no one cares about. It's like being mad True-Name Nemesis wasn't released in a normal set and had top billing in story. It's side shit.

>>52637352
That's game mechanics, fuckwit.

>>52637423
>we
Who do you think you are, kid? This isn't tumblr.

>>52637140
>why is this a common etc. etc.
Butcher Ghoul

>>52637442
Nope. Extends to storytelling as well.
Inspiring Call was printed specifically because MaRo requested common-level proof of the planeswalkers involvement on Kaladesh.

>>52637423
how old are you?

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>>52637465
Inspiring Roar. Fuck me.

Anyone else feel like Jund Madness could make a comeback with this?

>>52637522
Fuck Wizards for shoehorning PWs into everything, I hope none of you buy this trash.

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>>52637590
whoops forgot to post image

>>52636852
Because no corporation will ever suck your dick and give you that satisfactory feeling you crave called "you were right". People crave that shit more than actual sex.

Never's a fucking Sorcery because Murder is still around in the same format. They don't want to give you 8 Murders in Constructed for another 6 months. In fact, you already have 8 Murders if you're splashing red with Unlicensed Disintegration.

>>52637414
He actually says that a lot.
That's why he was so angry at himself for DTK.

>>52637600
It's no Broodmate Dragon, but with the lack of removal? Sure.

But, that same lack of removal also means Jund in colors only, not game plan.

>>52637590
It's all about Jund -1/-1 counters though.

>>52637617
This ideology is why Standard is having such trouble.
We had Doom Blade in the core set from 2010 to 2014. We'd get additional removal on top of that rotating through Standard.

Now people are afraid of 8 Murders.
What a world.

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>>52637140
b-brother?

>>52637678
Sphinx of Jwar Isle saw some play in Zendikar standard, people just need to appreciate hexproof more

>>52637738
That card had actual shroud, hexproof is cancerous

>>52637198
>Type up a shitty joke
>Anon goes on a rant about politics in a children's card game.

I made a mistake.

>>52637761
Bogles was fine anon.

>>52637761
>hexproof is cancerous

What a world

>>52637799
He's not wrong

>>52637804
Could you turn this into an argument rather than a statement?

>>52637804
What's cancerous is the lack of answers, hexproof is barely relevant anymore

>>52637868
Hexproof will be cancerous until Chainer's Edict gets a Standard reprint.

>>52637391
Same

>>52637600
>5 heads
>6 damage

This upsets my delicate autism

>>52637887
>waaa, my removal can't make green irrelevant

>>52635363
fuck yeah, minotaur tribal is my secret fav

>>52635199
>cutting off the top of the staff

oy

>>52637887
Or a 4 mana wrath.

>>52637921
The small heads each deal 0.75 damage. Each big head deals 1.50 damage.

>>52637678
>>52637678
The battlecrusier style of the game does get sickening to some. I started when it was on the rise and then it got cut down after a while. Trying to slot in answers that are more powerful, but not flowchart Doom Blade answers isn't terrible.(Is it alive? Is it non-black? Is it vulnerable? Dies to Doom Blade.)

I played with Rend Flesh and Eyeblight's Ending for the longest time and shit like that is more of what we need in my mind, but two mana to kill anything not in your color as soon as it resolves can be miserable as shit to fight. I'd even be down with Victim of Night back in the mix, because at least it's tailored not to be a sniper round into the head of Anything. I'd love that kind of reflexive speed back as a ubiquitous tool too, but with some flex on the conditions of it.

>>52637921
it has another head not shown in the image if you know what I'm saying ;)))

>>52637921
Don't worry. A point of p/t is comming from the duder in front of the hydra.

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>>52637734
Death is only the beginning...?

>>52637981
>>52637968
>>52637921

Nah, it's from the body.
Bite/Bite/Bite/Bite/Bite/Crush

>>52637848
Bant Hexproof was cancer. You should not be allowed to enchant your Shroud creatures.

>>52638279
>it was cancer once, so it's cancer always
Are we approaching this from a Standard or Eternal mindset?

>>52637265
You seem to forget that she's a hippie. Of course they sag.

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>>52636412

I am definitely upset at how Oketra is just a worse version of Heliod. Same CMC, Heliod makes 2/1 tokens, Heliod gives your field vigilance, Heliod is not affected as easily by creature removal.

Overall the Amonkhet gods seem like pale shadows of their Theros counterparts. All these activated abilities seem overcosted by 1 or 2 mana.

Kefnet being a more expensive Azure mage that sometimes bounces your own lands is disappointing in the extreme.

I know that these gods have beefy statlines and are supposed to be creatures more often, but I expected more than 'I SWING YOU BIG DAMAGE HURR HURR HURR!' stapled to an overcosted activated ability.

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>>52638337
Agreed. At least Blue god was marginally different.
The issue is that Wizards apparently wants the gods to represent the color ideology instead of anything else. Small surprise they turn out similar.

>>52635199
>Human
>>>>HUMAN
CONFIRMED FAKE.

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>>52638364
Threadly reminder that Guttersnipe is 1 colorless mana, Legendary, and +2/+1 away from being a God.

>>52636687
>Sarkhan
Best fucking planeswalker
>All of his character arc is about wanting to fuck dragons
>Gets (mind)buttfucked not by one, but TWO elder dragons
>Ruins and commits genocide of multiple races
>but it's okay because he can fuck dragons now

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>Join us this Thursday for the Amonkhet preview show with Mark Winters, Dave Humphreys, and Mark Rosewater!

>Subscribers can ask questions and get to know the team who helped create Amonkhet in our live Q+A session.

Will /tg/ subscribe and ask the honest and hurtful questions that need to be asked?

>why no instant planeswalker removal
>when more bans
>why so many black pandering?
>will you kill the jacetice league for good
>what's wrong with being a nazi?

>>52638419
>Gottersnipe

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>>52638364
Ugh- seeing those two side by side like that is giving me dysentery.

It's the Curse of the WotC Magic Monkey Paw-

"We would like a legendary red green werewolf"

"as you wish ."

"Ludevic didn't get a card in either the old Innistrad or the new Innistrad. Can we see a Ludevic card in a commander set?"

"Sure thing."

"The gods from Theros were pretty cool, and Egyptian gods have awesome aesthetics. Can we get some more?"

"No problemo."

>>52636491
>I want Wizards to print good lords that aren't for merfolk.
ftfy.
Elves lord are crap and elves work because they shit out mana like sick cunts and combo away.

Also
>blue the "bad" "inefficient" creature color
>Except most efficient creature (delver) is blue
>Most efficient tribe (merfolk) is also blue
>With fucking TWO mana lordS plural.

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>>52637414

I can literally find hundreds of posts on his blog that say otherwise.

>>52638461
Fuck off /pol/

>>52638322
Gotta be standard. Eternal doesn't give a shit about hexproof.

>>52638501
>Except most efficient creature (delver) is blue
Hold up.
How are you defining efficient?
A one-drop unreliable 3/2 flyer is pretty good, but it's shit compared to DS and goyf.
Delver is a single card that only requires one other to flip. This is true.
DS and goyf are unplayable with only themselves and one other card (unless it's Grisly Salvage for goyf, but why?)
Except setting up for them, goyf especially, is incredibly easy, and they become something far and away better than Delver can ever be.

What do you mean by efficient?

>>52638364
mogis almost follows this trend too

>embalm only as a sorcery
>literally all aftermath cards' second half are sorceries

Holy shit wotc, stop being so fucking safe, let us play with cards at instant speed already.

>>52638535
Oh.
Well then that's just a problem with WotC's balancing rather than any flaw with the mechanic.
Hexproof is no more broken than a 4/5 that causes a 6-point life swing. But both are broken when there's no good response available.

>tfw no card this is a creature with embalm that also has an aftermath effect too

>>52638543
>Delver
>Unreliable
Are we playing the same game?

Delver and goy are the most efficient creatures, they're huge beaters that don't require any extra fancy work around to work (No, having spells in fucking eternal and cantrips/sorcs/fetches is not """working around""" them).

DS is in the same box as hermit druid except it is also 1/2 for 1. For some unknown reason, that I'm going to assume it's "fuck gobbos". No I don't care for charm.

>>52638565
Being able to cast at instant speed at the end of the opponents turn and then get a separate effect that could potentially trigger card advantage is too efficient.

>>52638573
Problem is always answers.

>>52638484
>Finally get non-human planeswalkers.
>In the overcosted planeswalker decks.

>Finally Phyrexian invasion.
>Homeworlds tier powerlevel on a plane nobody cares about.

>>52638606
I'm thinking Modern. Delver is not great.
Since blue is allowed to be good in Legacy, I imagine the situation is different?

>>52638658
Yeah.
Read Eternal, AKA where people can play cantrips without wizards sperging out violently about it.

Basically if delver stays more than 2 turns as a 1/1 you're not playing him in the correct deck.

And even then merfolk issue still stands
>N-no!
>Blue is supposed to have bad and inefficient beatdown creatures
>Except blue tribe
>They get 2/2 for UU lords
>Everyone is 2/2 for 1ColorColor tho :v)

>>52635786
fnatic of mogis would like a word.

>>52638565
Embalm makes sense. You cast creatures at sorcery speed, so you embalm at sorcery speed - though they should have given it a bit more wiggle room for things that grant blanket flash/having a flash embalm creature. "Embalm only when you could cast the creature." or something.
The aftermaths being sorceries is on the other hand fucking dumb and yet another case of development being too safe yes. Which has been working SO WONDERFULLY the past few years, where everything is too strong for standard and shock is amazing.

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>>52636449
>muh /pol/ boogeyman

>>52638915
Do you think WotC is ever gonna realize that by making everything shit, it just makes their mistakes all the more egregious?

>>52637076
Yes actually, Nissa is a basic bitch in comparison.

>>52639035
The problem is that Development has their heads up their asses as to what makes the game good. They're off in their own little world and have been doing worse and worse at their job since Khans - absolutely nothing has been as they thought it was since then, beyond the point of them missing a card or two. They miss practically everything it seems, except maybe one or two fringe decks.

>>52635363
Well, I have a casual minotaurs deck with 100% theros cards. Can't wait to upgrade it

>>52636124
This seems like an interesting tempo card.
>counter their 2-3 drop
>on your next turn, tap 2-3 lands
>you just wasted two of their turns with one card unless they have an insane one drop

>>52639276
The main problem is that they focus too much on new player, so they try to make everything accessible and not frustrating for them but by doing so they forget older player who have really nothing to be excited about because everything is so safe.

>>52639276

They thought servo tokens would be a thing in standard. Think about that for a minute

>>52636151
prepare's image is a good use of space despite smaller arts being a retarded idea

>>52639493

Too bad about all the other ones looking like shit

>>52639420
Exactly.
They also buffed Aetherworks Marvel at the last moment and never tested it (BECAUSE THAT ALWAYS GOES WELL) because...Multiform Wonder was too strong.
And didn't play that much Smuggler's Copter.
And thought Werewolves was going to be a deck.
And didn't even try 4color goodstuff. And Siege Rhino was a response to an enchantment they themselves had repeatedly nerfed but were still playing.

>>52638501
Man, fuck the elves, Knights need more lords to get off life support as a tribal deck.

>>52637600
That's visually a very cool design and a great implementation of design thinking from a visual perspective.

Hydras heads are/look like snakes.
What if Hydras heads were cobras (another kind of snake)
Ok, we just need a setting where that makes sense (Egypt themed)

Fucking awesome art on the card.

>>52639574
I'm of the belief that they don't reveal what their FFL meta was like (even years later or when it rotates) solely because it would make them look laughably pathetic instead of just "off base."

>>52635363
Are Minotaurs becoming viable?

>>52636412
Why are all the gods so fucking boring?

It feels like they randomly took a cycle or mediocre rare creatures and revamped them into gods by adding indestructible

This god cycle is looking to be REALLY bad and boring

I'm gonna guess the green is muh lands and its activated ability lets you put another land into play and it has trample and indestructable

Black is gonna be muh opponents handsize and lifelink and its acitvated ability makes them discard one card (at sorcery speed :^)))))

YAWN

>>52639672
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/latest-developments/days-future-future-shadows-over-innistrad-2016-04-29
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/latest-developments/days-future-future-eldritch-moon-2016-08-26
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/latest-developments/days-future-future-kaladesh-2016-10-28
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/latest-developments/update-standard-2017-03-24

>>52639766
Then I am of the belief that I am an idiot for talking about things I don't research.

Cheers anon!

>>52636852
>Why is fucking Never a fucking sorcery.

Because plansewalkers are epic and cool and it's illegal to make any spell remove them effectively because then Timmy would be sad that his Jace, Pussy Slayer got killed at instant speed before he could shit out an army of 2/2 illusion soldiers.

WotC really need to print an effective removal spell for walkers because really there is no punishment for jamming as many as you want. You either have negate or I start vomiting value. What a fun card type!

>>52639806
I have grown to hate planeswalkers. They could make them slightly less obnoxious if they required more color in their costs (I'm thinking like all colored mana or almost all). That or they could make any and all damage they recieve be "trample" if it kills the walker. If they have 2 loyalty and you attack it with a 4/4 it should kill the walker and the player take 2. If they burn, they should only have to redirect the amount needed to kill the walker, the rest should go back to the player who controlled the walker.

As is they are too obnoxious. Not even of the OP variety. normal games can turn into a slog when its justice league vs. legion of doom. And they snowball too often, even if that is their intended result. AND they hate making removal for them like you said.

>>52637076
>You can only appreciate cards and characters if they're fuckable broads
Isn't there already a card game with nothing by waifus? It always makes me uncomfortable when I'm at Walmart peeping the newest intro packs and there's a shiny full art holographic anime tittied slut right by it.

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>>52639875
One of my main problems with them is their design seems to have gotten worse

I actually enjoy walkers like Venser, or Sarkhan the Mad, Ashiok, or Tezz Seeker/Agent because they all did interesting things. Having 50+ walkers that are copy pasted -X = card advantage and +X = stall and -alotofX= slap target opponent with target penis you control at the beginning of you upkeep you win the game.

Also there really needs to be better answers. It's disgusting that if my opponent curves into Gideon, Ally in standard I literally have no single spell that exists that trades evenly with it once it hits the field. That's actually insane.

Oketra the True + Odric, Lunarch Marshal

>>52639888
Not that insane without backup spells to trigger the prowess and deal wither damage

>>52639985
It's not wither though. Wither doesn't proc "when you put a -1/-1 counter on a creature" effects

>>52640069
While this statement is true and the technicality is valid, anon was making a benign generalization on behalf of their argument.

>>52639985
>red won't have burn spells

>>52640134
No, but in this scenario he only had 1 mana available.

>>52640143
Given the chronology of when soul-scar would actually be cast in the scenario, the fact that the player who cast the Aftermath card is also running red may very well remove it in the same or following turn.

>>52640196
The guy running the aftermath card probably also runs the Soul-Scar Mage, pretty nice trick to get a few hits in

So short of the metagame revolving around draw-go counters. how do people plan to beat a g/w deck ramping into the alternate wincon? All you have to do is cast it twice to win the game (resolve twice). The first time gains you 7 life, then if you don't kill them asap they just untap and win. All the black discard won't help. You need some sort of targeted removal to really stop it.

>>52640265
That card is a joke.

>>52638654
>>Finally Phyrexian invasion.
>>Homeworlds tier powerlevel on a plane nobody cares about.
Powerlevel aside, that could be a nice block actually. Phyrexian invade a plan that have no chance to seriously fight back, the gatewatch get stuck in a pointless gruelling rearguard action while Karn write off the plane and opt for planar scorched earth policy.
Every natives die, or maybe have the gatewatch save a native plainswalker that discovered his spark thanks to their actions if you don't want it to be a total downer.

>>52639888
I'm surprised Steve Argyle has been allowed to return to the fold. I wonder if they'll let him draw tits.

>>52634665
I was excited for Aftermath because I liked Flashback but every card with Aftermath is fucking terrible

Did they weaken all these cards on purpose? None of them seem playable

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>>52640418
The cheesecake factory is closed for good in this town. While sad, it doesn't deter me from the game.

>>52640265
gee I dunno, any of the aggro decks will beat that shit 99% of the time.

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>>52639766
>Red-Green Werewolves is a deck that hasn't really shown up in the real world, but we had it as a player in FFL Standard. I think it hasn't shown up in reality partly due to how weak the deck is to Collected Company, but also because the deck has problems with Dromoka's Command...both of which are in the most popular deck in Standard.

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>>52640455
Given that this is the first time split cards as a cycle/series can be cast at two different times while simultaneously featuring two different effects, it's not unreasonable to claim that they are weakened on purpose.
Despite that, I believe that a considerable amount of value in the Aftermath cards is generally overlooked in terms of card advantage.

For example, seeing that cut is just a worse flame slash, it's immediately dismissed. What flame slash doesn't do though is allow you to cast a black life-loss Fireball at your opponent(s) from your graveyard - you don't have to fill a slot in your deck with it or draw the card when you have the mana to dump into it, it's just sitting there.

>>52640634
>you don't need to fill your deck with it
Yes but you do need to fill your deck with a 100% shit card you either need to cast or mill to get the effect you really want (which isn't even a good effect given how Exsanguinate effects are only used in EDH)

>>52640634
>it's just sitting there.

Until it gets exiled by GY hate?

>>52638543
In a vacuum, Goblin Guide is the most efficient creature.
But with minimal build around Goyf, DRS, Shardless Agent and Delver completely outclass GG.
2 of the 4 best creatures are blue, three of them are green. Green is meant to be the color with the most efficient creatures, blue is meant to be the color with the least efficient creatures.

Clearly the problem isn't that Goyf, DRS and Shardless Agent are great creatures, it's that there aren't great creatures in white, black and red that can compete with Delver since Stoneforge Mystic, Dark Confidant and Eidolon of the Great Revel require much more build-around concessions to exploit their full potential than Delver does.

>>52640725
DRS is black too :^)

>>52639276
Lately I've began to suspect they don't actually miss anything. They purposedly made Gideon, Ally of Zendikar the most powerful card in standard without any real competition to inflate sales, and everything around him was underpowered in purpose to avoid possible mistakes from putting him down.
You need to open 110 boosters aprox. to find an specific mythic. If every player needs 4x of one specific mythic from each set, this forces stores like SCG and CFB to open boxes like madmen to find the one good card in the set.

They're not stupid, we are for continuing to buy when it's obvious they don't give a shit anymore.

>>52639806
Rake/Scrape WB/BR
Instant/Instant
Destroy target creature or enchantment/Destroy target planeswalker or artifact.
Fuse.

>>52640418
If he draws anything other than artifacts and beefcake they'll SWAT him.

>>52640418
no man
everything he does looks like plastic, fuck Digital the Gathering
izzy and chippy are the real deal, or at least simulates it well

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>>52640694
While GY hate is abundant in Modern and beyond, until Wizards prints (targeted) graveyard hate in Amonkhet, your only choices in Standard for non-creature cards are Lost Legacy and Not Forgotten.

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>>52639619
Hooded Hydra was printed 3 years ago

>>52636412
Oh I love (whale) 10KETRД THE TRUEI^]?

>>52640950
what a lame flavour text

>>52640575
Notice how the ONLY deck they had that ran CoCo...was the very werewolf deck they were talking about.
The SoI article also seemed to conflate 'Collected Company' with 'Werewolves Only' except for their take on Rally post Rally

>>52640901
Chippy made Esper something beautiful.

I can't remember the last time I've felt that way about a specific artist.

>>52640833
>mortify
>but cheaper
>and on a split card
>that has fuse

>>52641238
they've taken on at least one writer who is just the dullest fucking guy on the planet. See Underworld Coinsmith. There's cards now with (((flavor))) text that's literally bland fucking facts about the world devoid of any adjectives or description.

>>52641258
They're suffering from a pretty common issue in playtesting: incestuous balance.
They have just one group of people doing testing, so any time that one group goes off-track the entire playtesting cycle is dragged askew.

The solution is to have a few dozen playtesting groups that have periodic tournaments against each other, so you get both isolated competition and germination of ideas. That and hiring people who aren't shit.

>>52640950
I really hope we get a legendary creature graveyard hoser based on She Who Eats Evil Hearts. Which reminds me, Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet is still legal in standard.

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>>52641658
That's right, Kalitas sticks around as nothing rotates out when Amonkhet hits. He will cause some problems for people trying to do anything with embalm.

>>52641945
I think there might be a deck with discard reward cards, looting cards (e.g. forgotten creation), and cards that do stuff in your graveyard (embalm, aftermath, scrapheap scrounger). Kalitas only cards if it got there by dieing. He doesn't care if some looter discarded it.

>>52640950
>huge ass cat
>easily 3 times the height of an standing adult
>fucking 2 of them
>2/2
They forgot to tell the man that they were not supposed to be giant as fuck.

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It's like I'm really playing Homelands lands that become okay after sitting there forever

Does anyone else get a weird vibe from Amonkhet? A lot of the cards feel like rejected Commander cards

>>52642286

Welcome to modern set design, where everything is shit because "It's made for limited".

>>52642280
Makes paradox engine meme decks better I guess
considering that that deck can now play it's entire fucking deck I'd say that deck might have potential, but I'm skeptical

>>52642309
Why is limited anything other than a casual format anyway? It just feels like keeping it around is a convenient excuse to keep mythic rarity around to help push packs

>>52642331
>Why does a company that only sees money from seal products want to do a thing that moves sealed products?

>>52642309
The worst part is that they would make the main set more competitive focused, and leave the casual and limited stuff for stuff like conspiracy, commander, and whatever other product of the year.

>>52642271
grizzly bears actually has 2 bears in most versions. I think the Portal art is the only exception. 2 bears should be able to beat a wolf token or a zombie token.

>>52642370
I like it and keeping it an an FNM level is cool but it doesn't make sense at a pro level

>>52642370

Except their plan moving forward is to make Magic isn't an e-sport. It's kinda hard to be an e-sport when the only supported format is shit, because all the cards are terrible and boring to see played.

>>52641499
>Spending money on quality control
Are you mad? Fucking commie here wants to destroy the american economy!

>>52642396
I'm not saying it isn't a bad plan, just that their accounting department is probably the ones pushing it.

>>52642331
It forces stores to keep buying boxes way past it's constructed-buyer market needs.

>>52635199
Just when I thought the set couldn't get any worse.

when do we get the full spoilers? I want this disappointment to end

>>52642509
It's not real, dumbfuck.

>>52642331
>Why is limited anything other than a casual format anyway
>while limited is the most popular official format

>>52641499
I have heard on multiple occasions pro players talking about the dangers of their play testing getting inbred when preparing for the pro-tour. Things like considering a card better than the general public does in limited and then consider seeing that card passed to them as a signal because that is their meta.

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>It's a, "WotC plays it safe" episode

I guess I'll pass on this set, too. Call me when we can get more than four pushed cards.

>>52642718
Yeah, this.

>honestly thought about drafting this set
>everything in it is shit

Which just means we'll get Ravnica 3 or some nonsense, because WotC thinks it's a lore backlash when it's actually just them printing shitty cards no one wants to buy.
When it's actually just that Ravnica has consistently had a high power level.

Can't wait for Innistrad 4 though!
What other revisits will we see before WotC realizes any plane is good so long as the cards are worthwhile?

>>52642852
We won't get good cards until MaRo loses his leading power.
Stoddard and Forsythe understand good cards make good games and good games make people happy to buy more cards. MaRo is a control freak that can't sleep at night thinking someone somewhere is playing Song of the Dryads.

>>52642852
Now, i will be fair here, only about half the cards have been spoiled, but with the trend to spoil all the good stuff first, I don't think there's saving this set. It looks like another low power set in a string of low power sets (ORI onward.) It doesn't look like anything will change Standard in any significant way. Nothing will change in Modern/Legacy. So far, it's just another do- nothing set.

>>52642894
Stoddard is the problem

>>52640265
Actually it only has to resolve the second time, and it's still shit.

>>52640265
Anon, there's a turn 4 infinite combo.

>>52642852
Return to Llorwyn 2022.

>>52642852
I used to love Innistrad and Zendikar, but not that shit revisit they did. They completely fucked up the Zendikar revisit with the avengers bullshit, and then fucked Innistrad with eldrazi bullshit.

>>52642894
Maro has no control whatsoever over card power level. Maro only controls design, where they come up with ideas for stuff and don't do shit about power level.
It's Stoddard and the rest of Development who think that the powerlevel of standard is Perfectly Fine, that removal keeps needing to be toned down, that keeps telling everyone that anything printed before last year is too strong for Standard (and because they're former pros, the rest listen!), and that such and such a card needs to be PUSHED MOOOORE.
The development team is the cancer killing magic. Design makes its mistakes, but Development is supposed to be there to catch them and make sure everything works right. They are failing at their job spectacularly.

>>52643113
We're never going back to Lorwyn, it was considered a failure second only to Kamigawa.

>>52643126
You are missing that Stoddard acknowledged the need for Naturalize in Kaladesh, but otherwise you're spot on.

Development is shit.

>>52638511
why would anyone want a planeswalkers matter set, what do they want a Jactice Leauge: Civil War

>>52643142
>we missed something obvious and admit it once.

Oh yeah, stand- up development there.

>>52643190
More likely Jactice League Unlimited.

Maybe Crisis on Infinite Jaces.

The Death of Jace?

>>52643190
But think of the shekels!

>>52643128
and yet Tamiyo got a new card, while MaRo mentions Kamigawa in his opening post about Amonkhet.

Give it a year or two and we'll be headed back. There's an ironic thing about bad experiences that keeps people talking about them. Kind of like how The Room became a cult name and then got that 2017 biographical comedy made about it.
With the new-age crowd filling Standard right now, they know the names Kamigawa and Llorwyn far better than they know Urza's Cycle, Onslaught, or Odyssey.

We're going back at some point, no matter how odd that may sound.

>>52643116

Maro just recently went on record that he didn't like what they did with the return to Zendikar, that from a conceptual level it was wrong, and next time they go back to it it's going to revolve entirely around the adventure world aspect now that the Eldrazi are gone.

>>52643227
What upsets me is that we probably will go back to Kamigawa and Lorwyn, but they will be utterly fucking ruined by modern MtG development, design, and writing.

Holy fuck, they really DIDN'T do shit with Collected Company except tribal decks. In all the decks in their articles, it's been in ONE deck that wasn't some sort of green tribal, and that was nonrally rally.

>>52639766
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/latest-developments/days-future-future-dragons-tarkir-2015-04-24
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/latest-developments/days-future-future-magic-origins-2015-08-14
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/latest-developments/days-future-future-battle-zendikar-2015-10-30
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/latest-developments/days-future-future-oath-gatewatch-2016-02-19

>>52643289
Yeah. It slipped through Tarkir testing because they thought it was going to be a junk rare.

WotC has no idea what they're doing.

>>52643289
Same with Saheeli
As far as I can tell, they completely ignored the combo between her and felidar

>>52643338

Ignoring would imply they saw it at all. They've gone on record that they didn't even realize the interaction existed.

>>52643338
that's the claim, but I highly doubt it. there's no way they didn't see an EtB/make copies combo.

they've got a dedicated man who tests fog decks in ever new set, but they don't have someone testing kiki jiki? Nope. Not believing one word.

>>52643370

What is their incentive to make themselves look stupid and incompetent?

>>52643377
Convince the old playerbase that it's time to sell out? That way they can cater entirely to the new pack-cracking players who wanted physical Hearthstone.

>>52643338
>We did miss the interaction with Saheeli, however, and that has led to some . . . interesting decks in Standard. While we were pushing for more combo decks in Standard with Aether Revolt, this is not the kind of deck we would intentionally take a risk with. In hindsight, Felidar Guardian definitely should've said "creature or artifact." Pro Tour Aether Revolt is this weekend, and we'll be watching to see how these decks do.

Cat combo is now 40% of the competitive metagame.

>>52643393

It's certainly getting banned, but nothing will be worth playing at the very least until rotation because of how suit BFZ and Innistrad were

>>52643263
He went on record after the backlash from BFZ, stating that the playerbase was a bunch of entitled cunts and HIS only mistake was not realizing that the players are shitlords. He used a phrase something along the lines of "we made a really sweet set conceptually and lore-wise, but the playerbase wanted more than that, they wanted something that no company could ever give, and we shouldn't have tried to appease them".

>>52643483
>They wanted enemy fetchlands, and no company on the planet could physically reprint them

>>52643483
>We made a sweet story!
>>But this is a card game, and the cards are shit...
>Fucking entitled shithead, can't appreciate my waifu Jace.

>>52643483

Well clearly he's realized he was wrong and that he made multiple mistakes with the set. So I don't know what exactly your point is.

>>52643517
>Well clearly he's realized he was wrong and that he made multiple mistakes with the set

But that's the opposite of what happened. He didn't think he personally made any mistakes. He didn't think that the keywords were poorly designed, that the overall power level (especially of BFZ) was shit, that drafting was bland and completely dependant on bomb rares, and that the eldrazi winter that nearly killed modern was anything but an honest mistake. No, he thought that BFZ/OGW was a great set, and it was just because of a bunch of sour players that everyone else thought it was awful. It's only a year+ after the fact, when he FINALLY has to own up to his mistakes, that he gives a half-assed "eh I guess we (not I, but we) fucked up guys but we'll do it right next time!" response.

Magic will probably have a big developer shakeup this year in response to another year of failed projections.

Maro will be relegated to an advisor role where all his ideas are humored but dismissed

>>52643585
>He didn't think he personally made any mistakes

His latest podcast is nothing but him going over what he describes as his mistakes with the set. His specific focus was on design mistakes, because that's what he deals with, whereas most of what you're talking about is outside of his department. So I don't even know why you're bringing them up.

>>52643586
Talking out of your ass isn't sanitary, not even on the internet.

>>52643002
>>52643126
Stoddard wanted Liliana of the Veil in M15 and Damnation in Eldritch Moon.

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>>52643263
>it's going to revolve entirely around the adventure world aspect now that the Eldrazi are gone.
I want to be excited because OG Zendikar was my favorite block of all time, but I just can't because I know in my heart wizards will fuck it up beyond repair.

>>52643611
Because I personally despise MaRo and want him canned for my amusement.

>Standard decks are really expensive but no one plays standard

The secondary market is truly the worst

>>52643639
And then decided they were TOO STRONG FOR STANDARD NOPE.

>>52643586
Hello, 2013, how are you doing?

Sorry to tell you, but unfortunately MaRo is still fucking things up. We're going to have an AMAZING set coming up, called Khans of Tarkir, but most everything after it will be gutter trash meant to force standard sales, where for years and years the dominant decks will almost all be 3/4/5 color mythic midrange.

>>52643500
>We made a sweet story!
>avengers friendship wins
>sweet story

>>52643648
This was in response to Mono Black Devotion decks' popularity. That would have really put them over the top but they shouldn't have allowed things to get that fucked up the first place.

>>52643661
It's from MaRo's perspective.

>>52643300
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/ld/days-future-future-journey-and-m15-2014-08-01
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/ld/days-future-future-khans-tarkir-2014-10-10
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/latest-developments/days-future-future-fate-reforged-2015-02-27

>>52643586
If Cocks wants his product to compete with Heartstone and LoL, he definatelly needs to fire MaRo, Stoddard, Bergeot, Jarett, Jarvis and whomever gave CFB ALL 2017 GPs, at the very least.

>>52643671
That seems to be the last time they actually figured things out anywheres near correctly, too

>>52643648
He was told "no" and unlike MaRo forcing his shitty megamorph through team dissent, he listened.

>>52643674
He really wishes he was in Hollywood with his tribe, doesn't he?

Part of me is starting to believe the interior of WOTC is made up of card collectors who actively push against the players

>>52643773
The worst part about megamorph is that MaRo hasn't given up on it. He just acknowledges that they've burned the name out, and would need to have normal morph cards that flip and get +1/+1 counters.

I don't understand him.

>>52643816
To be fair, that probably would have been recieved much better by the playerbase.

Kind of ironic how megamorph ended up with more playable cards than actual morph in KTK block

>>52643816
Wasn't the end result of Megamorph that it actually plays well (at least in limited), but nobody wants to because its name is fucktarded?

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Ready // Rumble

>ready
>XG
>Deal X damage to each creature with flying

>Rumble
>XRR
>Deal X damage to each creature without flying


Can we just take a minute to appreciate how great this name is?

>>52643852
Just because Raptor and Protector were exellent cards in Standard doesn't mean the megamorph mechanic wasn't shit.

>>52643993
Fucking Earthquake is too good for Standard now.
Next year the only targeted removal will be 4B sorcery that only hit creatures with power 3 or less, meanwhile we'll have a 5/5 with trample and haste that returns to your hand at eot for 1G.

>>52644030
At common.
The rare will have a beneficial ETB and LTB

>>52644044
It will also have protection from Blue, because it's a fun card and that's not a fun color.

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>>52643671
>tfw you were taking a break from Magic during mono-black devotion's time in standard
I wish mono-black was good enough for modern. I just want to achieve power at any cost desu.

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>>52643993
This one I truly don't understand

The others at least had some synergy with their effects

>>52643993
At least I can throw it in my graveyard for G.

Why is this a rare?

>>52644106
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>>52636151
Prepare is good in a vacuum, idk about standard.
>makes exert good
>combat trick
>if the fight is ever good its technically card advantage and removal in one
>shock is the standard for removal so +1/+1 might save your key creature from the garbage removal

>>52644030
This one's actually not bad at all. A slight upcharge compared to the original on the second half, no increase in price on the first half, downside/upside (more downside, but not entirely downside) of not hitting players on either end. In total it's a Hurricane that draws you an Earthquake for free, at the cost of said quake costing R more.
Oh, and it would appear one side or the other (probably the Hurricane) got upgraded to instant

>>52636325
THEY SAVED THEM FOR NEXT BLOCK MAYBE FUCK YOU. wotc knows what they are doing.

>>52644169
It's +2, so it will always blank a shock

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>>52644189
>wotc knows what they are doing