Warhammer 40k General /wh40kg/

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First for the kindred.

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After just now acquiring another Galatus and Caladius, I realize my Talons of the Emperor army is honestly needs some more Sisters (and Terminators when they come out!).

20 Custodian Guard
15 Sentinel Guard
10 Hetaeron Guard
10 Sagittarum Guard
6 Agamatus Jetbikes
3 Caladius Grav-Tanks
2 Coronus Grav-Carriers
4 Pallas Grav-Attacks
3 Contemptor-Galatus
2 Contemptor-Achillus
3 Shield Captains/Tribunes
1 Ixion Hale
2 Oblivion Knight-Centura
10 Prosecutors
10 Vigilators

PUT THAT NOB

INTO THE FUCKING NAUT

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First for I2 and actually being good in shadow war.

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My friend let me borrow his stormsurge to paint it for him, and I never realized it has the thiccest fucking thighs this side of the Damocles gulf

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4TH FOR THE SONS OF SANGUINIUS

>>52633140
>Good way to make a low mid tier army like DE harlies better, craftworld players who take advantage of it need to be gassed.

no, it is grossly broken, and even DE with it are cheese fest bullshit

Am I going to expect tonnes of yoof shootas and the occasional buzz-choppa in Shadow war?

>>52633182
>my 'friend' so kindly allowed me to paint his models for him
The fuck?

So fellas. After contemplating a lot, is Dark Eldar with Harlequins in a Ynnari set up viable with Soulburst?

>>52633220
See
>>52633199
It really is nonsence

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>be me getting home from LGS
>lay box with chinacast knight held together by citadel super glue and dreams down as I get more stuff
>walk in and catch the corner of the box and bump it
>knight rolls a 6 and explodes into its component parts
Well rip this guy, as you can tell the legs are locktight, but the rest was shitty super glue because I was stupid back then, guess I better call of the techpreist to perform the rights of reassembly

>anyone got some good stories of models being destroyed?

>>52633217
What's wrong? Are you autistic or something?

>>52633231
Even for Dark Eldar/Harlequins? I always thought it was good for them

>>52633247
No, i just woudn't discribe it in such a way that makes it look like he is doing you a favour, as opposed to the other way around

>>52633217
It's tau what do you expect?

He said he was gonna just spray it with dollar general spray paint and call it a day, I just couldn't let such an expensive model get that treatment so I told him I would at least get a basecoat on it and a few details, also I've never painted a garg so it could be fun

>>52633145
What would you include in a Kroot Mini-dex?

>>52633231
Not that guy, but the only reason I'd want to take it is so I can include some Skyweavers in my army without having to ally weirdly.

Would it be more reasonable if I restricted it to only use Soulburst for moving, or am I better off just playing unbound so there'd no special bonuses at all?

>>52633263
I'm not the anon with the stormsurge, but you're autistic.

If anon likes painting, then yes, his friend is doing him a favor by giving him a chance to paint a $120 model.

>>52633259
Its REALLY good for them. Too good infact. The ablity to slap down huge amounts of extra shooting phases is broken as shit.

>>52633272
it depends on when you run to be fair. though restructing it to moving would do a lot of make it balanced in most cases

>>52633265
You should do him a favor and toss it in the garbage. Or at least give it a more realistic pose, like being fallen over on its back with the pilots injured from hand grenades

>>52633307
Model a rhino running it over

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So much infantry
Not a transport in sight
My dream come true

>>52633291
>this is what Tau player actually believe
ho ho ho you make me laff.

>>52633294
As far as crafters stuff goes, I've got some Jetbikes with non heavy weapons, howling banshees, and dark reapers.

I also have some reavers, since I wanted a jetbike army, but I wanted some more variety and to avoid cheesing too hard

>>52633307
Model it choking a wraithknight with its thighs

>>52633343
I play skitarii

>>52633339
10/10 would attempt to smash with traitor forces.
really looks like it'd be fun to play

>>52633350
Pics or didnt happen

>>52633343
>>52633291
>>52633263

Anon with stormsurge here, to clarify I asked him if I could paint it, I did joking tell him I was just gonna send him a video of me shooting it since it did rape my army that day

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>>52633349
>tfw you will never be that wraithknight
why live /tg/?

>>52633268
HQ
-Great(er) shaper
-Shaman

Troop
-Carnivors with doggies & gorilla-ox

Elite
-Veteran mercenaries
>advanced fieldcraft skills
>able to purchase one out of X options to reflect their mercenary background (pulse rifle/carbine/blaster for tau mercs, t4 and furious charge for ork mercs, fleet and i4 for eldar mercs etc.)

Fast
-Doggy pack
-Kroothawks

Heavy
-Krootox pack
-Gnarlocks

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>>52633376
Okay. this was last saturday. Also see >>52633377
to understand why you are a faggot.

>>52633339
Personally i find missile lauchers to be shit, becusae atuo cannon are so good, but what ever workws for you man

>>52633400
Actually I could maybe find points to change them to Lascannons. Or just take heavy bolters. I'm using Steel Legion models and they don't have auto cannons ;_;

>>52633395
>i play skitarii!
>has cawrl and custodes
really activated my almond

>>52633395
>calls me a fag for being nice
>posts his pictures sideways
Why are normies on my general?

>>52633377
Welp cant say i understand, but hay man, what ever gets you going.

you should write the word faggot in very small writing, somewhere he wont see it until much later

>>52633416
For their points autocannons are statistically better than las canons against everything not AV 14

Remember for every 1 lascannon shot you could have 4 autocannon dice

>>52633472
Wait, does this extend to Chaos havkos? even with tank hunters? fuuuuuuuck

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Is the "Warlord" book any good?

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How much would it cost to commission duncan to paint my army?

>>52633472
But Autocannons can't explode vehicles
Also, like I said, I don't have Autocannons.
I might buy some more Lascannons and try to convert them into Autocannons, but so far I've got nothing but MLs, HBs and LCs.

>>52633501
Ask him

So, are there two different Null Maiden Task Force formations? The burning of prospero data sheet says the formation confers Warp Siphon, but the Talons codex says it gives Nauseating Aura and Rite of Annulment.

>>52633503
Do lascannon, whilst autos are sweet as, lascannons will make you opp sweat buckets

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/04/10/thuderhawk-inbound/
THE DREAM IS DEAD

>>52633501
Nothing
>find Duncan's address
>send him an assembled and unpainted army as a gift to show him how much you appreciate his work
>send him a request for one part of one model like the camo cloak on a scout
>he makes a daily Duncan video showing how to do it, using your model as an example
>make alt account and message him again for a different part like the armour
>do this again and again until the model is done
>repeat for years until entire army is complete like this
>at the same time go to college and move to U.K.
>get job at GW and work your way up
>become CEO
>go to the painting shop where Duncan is chained up to paint 23 hours a day
>free him in return for your army
>zero dollars spent

>>52633503
Hoping for a lucky six constantly is not a good way to play imo

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>>52633578

>>52633578
Why the fuck is GW making FW models, what is the point of FW?!

>>52633593
I mean I would use autocannons if I had them. But right now it's the three options I mentioned previously, and I tend to lean towards MLs.

>>52633630
>literally a giant forge world banner at the top

Spot the anon who can't read

>>52633649
Clickbite at its finest!

>>52633630
>We can now announce that the Forge World studio are nearing completion on a brand new updated version.

Yes they cannot read.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/04/09/shadow-war-armageddon-the-rules-available-soon/

We will have the rulebook for pre-order on the 22nd of this month.

>>52633709
>We don't know our consumers
>The movie
>The post
>The Book

>>52633709
and it comes with rules for inquisition & sororitas, hurray

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>>52633578
But???!!!

No!!!!!

>>52633578
Resin sisters When?

>>52633630
Probably in that GW owns FW so anything that FW makes is also made by GW.

Like how Wal-Mart and Sam's Club are two different corporations but Sam's Club is Way-Mart's bitch that it smacks around and kicks but still buys nice things for on occasion so it doesn't run away.

>>52633726
Explain?

>>52633746

FW and Citadel are subsidiaries of Games Workshop.

Ultimately GW owns all licensed material and models, they can do as they please.

>>52633766

I bet GW will charge £25 for that book.

>>52633746
I was actually wondering about things like Titans, GMC and super heavies made in plastic or under GW name instead of FW.

So not doing a plastic thunderhawk is confusing in this age of make everything in plastic.

I'm just here to say, if there is a god, 40k will be nothing like age of shit-mar and there dumpster fire of a rule set

>>52633766
They can't make the new boxes of the game fast enough so they are releasing just the rules so

Their consumers aren't patient.

>>52633778
thank you for reiterating my point, without the domestic abuse analog.

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How's this looking?

>>52633791
That I couldn't answer as I am not sure on the production cost differences between Resin and Plastic, and the supply chain it would go through. I'm sure there is a business decision this went through probably based on resin runs being less expensive than plastic for shorter runs.

>>52633766
They are suprise about the huge demand it had.
It was hyped beyond end, hinting at Necromunda and second editions, things that new hear in legends of old of glorious past and old players are like sweet old stuff I used to play as a kid.

Their consumer want this things.
The same thing happen with Vyridian and Celestine, they are utterly confuse about it. Like they don't understand people want this things.

It feels like non marine products in their eyes shouldn't sell. So people asking for non marine stuff confuse them.

>>52633792
Well all the rumors say the core set of rules (which will be online for free) is 10 pages. 1.5 times the size of AoS.

That said AoS plays pretty well and it's rules are attractive to this thing called new players. My Warhammer40k Community needs new life. And a stream lined game would help it grow. Hell the WHFB group tripled after Generals handbook.

>>52633789
Sorry not all of us are in a communist utopia and are actually quite used to paying money we make from our jobs for things we want

>>52633798
Not enough AT.

Don't put splinter racks on a blaster squad.

Power swords are shit on troupe masters, give them a relic weapon or give them caresses.

Don't give every harlie a weapon, leave some bare bones to eat bullets for you.

>>52633791
>So not doing a plastic thunderhawk is confusing in this age of make everything in plastic.

Resin can hold much finer detail than plastic, so for these really big centerpiece models (which are usually marketed towards more experienced hobbyists), it's the better choice.

>>52633789
Yeah and? That's about in line with the rest of their pricing.

>>52633857
I think he's more saying that 25 British Pounds is too high. I would agree about $10 American would be right.

>>52633835
>huge massive release
>hyped to oblivion
>company gives stores exactly 3 of this thing and a set of knives to the customers can fight it out in honor duels
>sold out for six months
Is GW Nintendo?

>>52633864
Wait really? Admittedly I don't have much experience with resin besides Veridyan but I thought plastic was better for details.

>>52633864
Why aren't centerpies models like Riptide and Magnus in resin then?

It just feels random

>>52633853
>1.5*4=10

Now listen I'm premed and we stop with math after calc but something seems off about that

>>52633864
Recent GW plastic kits have been quite detailed. I doubt they have any problems with something like a thunderhawk which is a big brick anyway.

Plus, added bonus of not breaking someone's foot if it falls

>>52633886
Why? We're talking about the company that makes 40k, the core rulebook of which is like $80. Expecting it to be less than $25 at a minimum is silly.

>>52633912
Huh? Yeah, 1.5 is 6 you have to add that to the original 4

>>52633886
It's a pretty meaty rulebook for a really good campaign that can be played over and over

I'd say $25 is reasonable and $35 would be after the GW Jewish tax

>>52633853
>and it's rules are attractive to this thing called new players.

Which will do you absolutely no good if you drive off your existing player base. 40k isn't a dead game that desperately needed an injection of fresh blood like AoS did. If GW gives 40k's rules the Sigmar treatment, I guarantee you that far more people will leave than will take the game up.

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>>52633895
Well GW can't do proper resin models.

>>52633888
That would imply that GW knows what they are doing. GW simply did not knew this was something. While Nintendo knows making thing feel rare and hard to find, keep their brand value high.

/hhg/ is back up, for those who care. >>52633826

>>52633926
10 is 2.5 times larger than 4

>>52633939
Not really, considering AoS rules are fine and only grognards like you are the ones complaining.

>>52633578
So is it me or does it look smaller than the original?

>>52633926
That's not what you said

Whatever this isn't the math autism board

>>52633940
I didn't know Veridyan was resin when I ordered her and when I opened the box I was like "what the fuck is this shit, did I get a counterfeit?"

>>52633239
Me and a tankspam guard player were fighting (read, getting murderfucked by) a demons player using a chaos knight and an infernal tetrad. One of the demon princes made it to my allies' squadron and ate all three tanks in one turn.

The demon player was so excited that as he turned to walk around the table and start roflstomping my troops with the knight that he forgot to check his surroundings. The sleeve of his hoodie caught the lead tank's barrel. That tank slid back into the two co-tanks and those three all caught the tanks behind it. The whole clusterfuck of 5 vehicles flew off the table with enough force that one of them exploded.

Mind you, this was not my army, which was carefully assembled and painted over the course of months: it was my allies, who were unpainted save for two which survived unscathed. But it was still a rather shocking development.

I looked at my army precariously pressed against the rear of the deployment zone and started packing up. I'm okay with having my army destroyed, but I don't want my army LITERALLY destroyed!

The demon player apologized and helped pick us the mess. Honestly, given his models were "Golden Deamon" to my "average" to my ally's "assembled in ten minutes", I think this is the happiest outcome that could have involved destroyed models that day.

>>52633939
I get the feeling that's what the whole '3 ways to play' thing is going to be. Ypure gonna have some super rules-light AiD thing that has some basic concepts of the game but ignores a lot of stuff, then you'll have a more narrative model that isn't as focused on balance but instead adds on to the above with ways to have things fit a scenario and make sense with fluff. Then the last one will be the revamp of the current rules. Some changes to trim the fat and make it mesh better for people who learned through one of the other ways.

That would be the smart thing to do. Have the basic rules be like a boxed game, then you add sspecial rules, scenarios and missions, then you add points and more complex interactions

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What faction/chapter/warband is the most Jewish/Israeli in 40k?

>>52634010
>/tg/ should be /pol/
Fuck off.

>>52633955
>>52633947

I did say 1.5 times more than right? Indicating the amount was increased by 150% of the original for a total of 250%?

Ah well I may have mistyped.

>>52633939
Again their goal is to make 40K between their entry level game AoS and their Veteran game HH.

Your cover saves and Ap are going away, replaced by to Hit modifiers and Armor Penalties. -jazz hands- The game is getting a streamline that is almost 5 years overdue.

>>52634010
What ever army you like and/or play.

>>52634010
Your favorite one

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>>52634010
gee I dunno

>>52634018
No faggot I'm legit asking, I'm fucking Jewish

>>52629330

To the anon from the previous thread...

The benefit of Stealth Teams is that they can buff other units while working alone or if taken in a hunter contingent, two other units can boost them and themselves (but that kind of goes with every unit taken in a Hunter Contingent. Outside of it, they can mark a Target, take a potshot on a tank and strafe heavy weapon squads.

Example: Opponent has an invisible squad of marine bikes. You assign the Stealth Team from your army anon made, you then have another unit consisting of a broadside with missile drones adding their fire, and a unit of 6 Sniper Drones adding their fire.

All of the units get +1 BS due to the Hunter Contingent rule, you can go further by by spending marker lights that will benefit all three units due to the Concentrated Firepower rule. So, you could go up another BS and Ignore Cover by spending all three Marker lights from the Stealth Team. This would put you at BS3 and Ignore Cover effectively ignoring the Invisibility power and the bikes ability to Jink.

It's up to you. Some could argue that those points would be better placed in a Ghostkeel or a Riptide.

I actually just got 5 of the old XV-15s for $15 on eBay. I loved those over the new plastic ones.

I'd put good money if Stealth Teams could be taken as Troops they'd be taken over everything.

>>52634010
Every faction, and None of them

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threadly reminder plastic sisters are coming

>>52634010
>>52634036
Skitarii. They're a minority religion outside of the catholic style emperor worship, are known for walking in the desert for months on end, and horde valuables for themselves.

>>52634027
>and their Veteran game HH.

>If you want to play an interesting, complex wargame, you have to go play the giant Space Marine dickslapping contest that is HH

Nah. Probably just gonna take my Xenos and bow out completely if that's the case.

>>52633835
>It feels like non marine products in their eyes shouldn't sell. So people asking for non marine stuff confuse them.
>box set is literally marines vs orks, the oldest fucking set up in 40k for boxes
>he seriously thinks this isn't a marine product
Granted, harlies rule SW:A, but you're an absolute tard if you don't think it was a marine product, when the box includes one of the underselling marine products.

>>52634027
>five years overdue
I wonder how many people a few years from now will just try and pretend the game jumped from 5th to 8th and try and forget anything in between happened

>to hit modifiers
That hasn't been confirmed or even hinted at, that's from shadow war because that's how 2nd was, and we do not want to go back to 2nd

>>52634075
>horde valuables for themselves.
that's admech

>>52634075
01110111011100000110110110011101!

>>52634083
>doesn't want to go back to 2nd

I personally like the idea of armor stacking with cover like that and guns getting bonuses at close range.

>>52634077
Okay, cool

>>52634080
Seriously I guess GW couldn't resist making an Eldar faction broken?

Why do they get the best melee with massive movement, an army wide invuln, and they can't be knocked over by anything but a fucking anti tank weapon?

>>52633578
>people still fall for the plastic thunderhawk "rumours"
the gift that keeps on giving

>>52634092
Skitarii are part of Ad Mech, and they certainly seem to have some sweet guns that they don't want to share

>>52634077
The hobby won't miss you with that attitude so bye

Also if they started to add xenos rules to HH or merged 7th and HH together with some changes to both as "legacy" I wouldn't mind

>>52634027
>Your cover saves and Ap are going away, replaced by to Hit modifiers and Armor Penalties.
>modifiers are simpler than basic if else logic
You're an idiot. The AP system is simply
If the AP is >= than the save, you don't get it, else you get to take your save.
Modifiers, while a welcome change, are far from a simpler or more streamlined system, especially if we get into stacking them.

>>52634136
The skitarii are the AdMech's private army, and they get those guns from admech who only share it with them because they're basically one step above lobotomized soldier.

It's a dumb distinction, I know. But it exists, and it's the reason they're in different codices.

>>52634080
People didn't bought it for the marines.

It's like the tribunate thingy of the Imperium, people bought it for Celestine, in far second place it was Cawl.

People like marines, but want something else than marines. Specially if you are playing for longer than a decade.

>>52633899
It's not the centerpiece of your army if they comprise most of your army!

I kid, but generally a centerpiece is just one or two models that tower overthe rest of the army. In other words, a Lord of War. Riptides are just too small relative to ghostkeels broadsides and crises suits and there's to many of them to make them true centerpeices in this day of giant robot armies. Maybe if Tau infantry become relevant again your Riptide can be the centerpiece again.

>>52634106
Yes those are fine, but the game is much too large for the other things in second you don't wanna mention

Seriously have you ever been in melee?

>>52634083
I WANT to-hit modifiers, but we have no way of confirming that. But Save mods are back for sure.

Can't wait to kill MC with autocannons, and Marines with HB. It's gonna be fuuuun.
I just want a Power stat in addition to a Strength stat for weapons. Better granularity IMO, especially for the bazillion different power weapons.

>>52634018
You know it's okay to actually talk about Jews and Israelis, right?
To answer the question, I'm gonna say Biel Tan craftworld.

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the runes have foretold that this place lacks the best race!

>>52634126
Don't forget they can literally phase through walls by RAW, and even their most basic pistol is a better bolt pistol for only a tiny bit more.

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Is there anywhere I can buy Sisters for less than GW's prices? Ebay is no better so I'm guessing I'm screwed thanks to everything being webstore exclusive?

>>52634010
Dark Angels

>>52634196
I think we can all agree a model having a "to wound" stat would be the ultimate form of cancer and that GW isn't dumb enough to port that over from AoS right?

>>52634163
>But it exists, and it's the reason they're in different codices.
No, that'd be $$$.

>>52634150
Most Xenos wouldn't really need that much of a re-write, except for perhaps point costs and organization changes to fit the balance of the game. Eldar, Necrons, Orks, and Chaos haven't really changed in 10000 years. Tyranids and Tau weren't even around, so at most you'd have Kroot or really forward vanguard infiltrators.

At most, I could see Orks getting an army-wide boost to toughness, strength, and wounds if they're led by the Beast

>>52634172
>People didn't bought it for the marines.
Be that as it may, that doesn't mean it wasn't a marine product. GW just didn't think it would sell well, despite the fact it was a marine product.

>>52634210
Chinaman or kitbashing

>>52634220
Not him, but definitely.
That and battle shock should come nowhere close to 40k. I'm a bit scared that the latter might though.

>>52634233
Think we are talking about different things.

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>>52634238
On this note, a different anon here who's interested in getting into the fine world of recasting. Mostly for Inquisition models, since GW doesn't sell them or sells them for absurd prices, comparatively. How would I go about that? Alternately, does anyone know a site with good counts-as for Death Cult Assassins and Acolytes?

>>52634196
Save modifiers are so much better and make so much more sense compared to all or nothing

>ive shot a multi warhead deploying missile at you, capable of destroying tanks and turning even super humans to mulch, oh but you rolled a 3 so it bounces off your power armour instead because it didn't even weaken it

I bet autocannon spam for guard is gonna get even stronger if they rend at -2 like people are guessing

>>52634220
Well, duh. Who the hell is advocating for that?

>>52634232
Aren't Nids a thing since forever? GSC where a thing even before the HH.

Tau will get dick over but you can say they are generic random Xenos number x

So what do you guys think the best change they could make for 8e would be?

I'd like to see them move away from codices and go to data sheets for each individual unit so they can have better control over balancing and such.

>>52634223
That too

>>52634255
No, not really.
I fully agree that people want stuff other than marines, and I say that as a marine player.
But I disagree with the idea that GW thinks non-marine products don't sell, at least in the case of SW:A. I think GW didn't realize how much people want specialist games back.

I just hope that it gets more support. I want rules for gangs and arbites damn it, and I won't be appeased until we get another redeemer comic

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>>52634225

>>52634249
Morale for shooting, Battleshock for Combat would be the best combination.

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>>52634299

>>52634036
Depends on what aspects of Jewish culture you want to represent.
>>52634075
If you want the stereotype

If you want the "Often prosecuted and somewhat secluded diaspora with no real state or territory to call their own" aspect of Judiesm that was their plight from the days of the Roman Empire all the way up to the mid-20th century you want eldar instead

>>52634299
What gun is he holding? Is that a Stub Automatic?

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>>52634316
>Tau girls

>>52634232
Tau and nids could easily be changed to techno xeno empires and xeno swarms respectively, everyone would just need some lore changes and alterations

But let's be real here GW said like a year ago that HH was meant to be imperium v traitors so unless they change their mind it's not happening

>>52633109
So I have this theory that the Old Ones and C'tan (maybe even Chaos!) were actually part of the same pantheon or were so similar as to be indistinguishable by the time they were defeated.

Points of similarity:
• all known extant old ones and star gods are reduced to avatars, shards and umbra.
• Khaine was somehow infected with c'tan metal blood and defected to the necrons. Despite this, his avatars are still used by the Eldar.
• Several c'tan share eerily similar portfolios and myths with the eldar/hrud/alien deities.
• The c'tan were originally materialists that darkly mirrored the psychic old ones and chaos gods, but due to either retcons or arms race they developed warp technology too.
• The chaos gods were created by the interaction of the old ones and c'tan, similar to many myths of new gods born after ragnarok.
• The necrons and eldar alive today never saw the million years long war in its entirety, so they are hardly unbiased sources. Their myths are riddled with numerous similarities and errors.

So what do you guys think?

>>52634296
Ah the marine only product is a meme. Since the fucks have like 2/3 of marines products between 40k and 30k. Their insisting of shoving marines into everything doesn't help either.

I play marines too, and got bored of them due to that, my tactical squad kit has more updates than the number of updates some armies had had in their entire existence.

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>>52634330

>>52634280
> you can say they are generic random Xenos number x

> Implying they already aren't.

>>52634280
>GSC where a thing even before the HH.

I'm gonna need a tall order of some sauce on that claim anon, and it better not be from fucking 1st edition or something

>>52634285
>8E
ALLIANCES

>>52634268
If autocannon are better than a -1 things are gonna suck. At that point, armor saves will matter even less than they normally do now, and they already hardly matter at all.

If Autocannons are a -2 there will be no real reason to bother with anything else

>>52634347

M40000A1

>>52634347
So yeah, a a fucking Stub Automatic. Guess that chapter had its funding cut.

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>>52633109
Can people in the 40k verse bone without worrying about slaanesh corruption? Like where is the line drawn between totally acceptable sex in the missionary position with the lights off and blood orgies / hand holding?

>>52634268
That's a big problem with Autocannons right now is they can't dent the 3+ monstrous creatures we're attempting to kill. I'm looking forward to my exterminator murder machine becoming the exterminator rape-and-then-murder-the-whole-family machine

>>52634364
Well since BL loves to fuck up lore and GW tend to forget it's own lore.

No I don't.

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>>52634400
There is no hard and fast line; it's based on the emotions felt, not the physical acts. That's why it's so easy to damn yourself.

>>52634377
Meh. They could make Marines 2+, or have two wounds. Honestly, anti-tank weapons should absolutely kill Marines anyway.

>>52634377
No I'm not saying everything will be negative 2, but you gotta remember autocannons are fucking S7 anti tank guns, I think in the next edition their whole shtick will be they have a high rending value

>>52634334
thats a stingwing you dummmy

>>52634337
Yeah, you could have the Tau represent the Interex and other similarly styled enemies of the Imperium, while Tyranids can be used as giant monsters and scary wildlife on deathwords and the like.

>>52634412
Like, can someone just be a slut/thirsty bastard without automatically being slaanesh bait?

>>52634460

I think Slaanesh is less about quantity and more about depravity. Someone who enjoys a regular dicking is probably less of a target than someone who pours hot wax on their nipples.

>>52634400
The difference is anything the why, more than the how.

Doing cocaine in ever bigger amounts because it lost is magic is not slaanesh.
Doing cocaine in ever bigger amounts because you want to reach the perfect dope state could be slaanesh
Doing cociane not for pleasure but for the excessive use of cocaine could be slaanesh.

Till you are fucking a slaanesh demon the line of falling to it is not clear

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>>52634412
>not wanting to join slaanesh in sexual depravity and fetishes galore

Whatever happened to the chaos land speeders after the heresy and how come chaos marines cant bring them?

>>52634377
Look on the bright side: you'll get a 6+ save against battle cannons!

>>52634460
Just being a slut isn't enough to get the Prince of Pleasures attention. It takes true devotion to kinky shit and an insatiable appetite.

>>52634400
It's when it starts to become excessive

For example ciaphas Cain pretty much fucked anything that walked because he was a pimp for life,literally fucking a fat heiress for like a month straight, but actually is noted to be surprisingly free of chaos taint despite fighting it for 200 years, but slaanesh is more like orgies or extreme bdsm parties eventually leading to like murder fuck fests where everyone is being fucked by 18" golden dildos covered in the blood of nuns

>>52634344
C'tan exist only in realspace, Old ones are a naturally occurring warp-dwelling race, but aren't driven by emotion in the same way. They're more like the Enslavers than the Chaos gods or Daemons.

The gods themselves only probably started cropping up with the Necrons. First race to feel despair on a wide scale from their constant radiation sickness, first to really hope and strive for change with their scientific progress, and following that was the war in heaven.

The C'tan and old ones die off and are broken for their own reasons. The Eldar gods dominate since they won the war, and the nacent Chaos gods lurk and slowly grow over the eons

>>52634487
Chaos faggots cannot into vehicle maintenance.

>>52634485
Then thing is you can fall to slaanesh for trying to achieve the perfect muffin or the perfect military formation and tactic.

Turning the joy and pleasure of doing things right into edonistic and self sucking way for its own sake is slaanesh in the broad concept of it

>>52634488
And plasma guns!

Actually, pretty much all dedicated anti-marine weapons will give you a save.

>>52634416
What if better armors, rather than improve their saves, make it so they ignore X points of rend?

So marine Armour would ignore 1 point of rend, terminator Armour could ignore 2 points.

You could then dp stuff like slash the price of manz by about 10-15 points by not giving their armour any rend ignoring characteristics, showing that their armour isn't as a good as terminator armour but easy to produce while still giving them a 2+ save vs small arms fire.
Give 'Evy armour a 3+ save but no points of ignores rend.
Flak armour 5+ but ignores 1 point of rend vs blast templates.

>>52634416
Being S 7 and -1 rend would still accomplish that without making marine armor pointless.

>>52634487
They all got used as fleshlights by bloodthirsters

>if you need an explaination how just look up dragons fucking cars and 40kize it in your head

>>52634516
>Muhhh Dark Mechanicus

The fucks are basically dark crusade players slapping demons into toasters. They are even more retarded than the Mechanicus

>>52634344
Cegorach = Deceiver = Tzeentch
Khaine = Burning One = Khorne
Vaul = Void Dragon = ?

Qah = patron of DE Mandrakes, CSM Company of the Shadow, DE Kabal of Wraithkind, and various other shadow demon thingies?

The horned god from the Badab War was stated to be made of shadow and malice, so is Qah the same as Malice/Malal/Malign/whatever?

>>52634506
You have sources for this? I thought it was implied the Eldar/Hrud/whatever gods were the Old Ones?

Also, newcron fluff retconned that C'tan developed warp weapons. Also the Khaine/Burning One connection is never stated but obvious.

>>52634502
Cain's purity can be justified with Jurgen.

You also have to remember that Chaos taint is somzthing you can fight, that's the whole point of Space Marine (looking at you Leandros), or Armour of Contempt from Abnett, or basically any SM. They fight Chaos regularly, yet are not automatically killed, because they have been conditionned and trained to resist it.

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>>52634521
I've actually got a fallen Imperial Fists subchapter in mind who are Slaanesh's personal army. It gives them tactics, and teaches them ever more excessive ways of combat, and in return they strike where it asks, and strive to military perfection.

It took them a long time to fall, and still, deep down, they believe themselves loyal - they never strike against the Imperium, only other armies of Chaos. That suits Slaanesh just fine, as well - Khorne has a lot of army to stave off.

>>52634460
Sure, there's a million worlds with countless people, a normal person will never build the amount of power needed to give slaanesh anything. For some random guy to give Slaanesh any power let alone summon a deamon or something, not only will he have to live, eat, and drink the taboo, he would have to have some kind of knowledge of HOW to do it in the right way. Odds are he will never amount to anything chaos wise, but as far as 40k goes, you can never be to careful

>>52634532
So will standing in rubble, but I would rather marines more closely fit their fluff of being walking tanks instead of having to cower in cover.

>>52634550
But why would they be -1 rend? They're anti-tank weapons.

I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE

MUST BREED WITH 40K GIRLS

RIGHT NOW

>>52634544
>GW: "let's make 40k more simple and balanced by adding rending"
>fan base: "let's make it as complicated as possible and more poorly balanced than AP"

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>>52634588

>>52633239
is that from Z? how's the quality?

>>52634588
Why are SOB's so cute?

what/s the best way to paint paper/purity seals?
rakarth flesh -> agrax earthshade -> pallid wych flesh?

>>52634377
They could make termies great again if terminator armour had a special rule that ignored rending values

Then make stuff like plasma and melta, basically most AP 2 stuff say that you don't get armour saves

>>52634555
The Eldar gods might have been the old ones at one point, though at some point the Old ones died off and were subtler replaced by the subconscious Eldar beliefs about their gods.

After all, the Eldar gods lived until right around the Heresy, and they certainly weren't the old ones then

>>52634593
>GW: "let's make 40k more simple and balanced by adding rending"
>fan base: "But that could completely fuck up game balance if handled poorly, how can we make it so marines aren't reduced to meat-chunks by basic weaponry?"
Inb4 bolters give -1 rend and it only gets worse from there.

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>>52634588
>being corrupted by chaos

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>>52634588
I just wanna breed with any girls

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>>52634622
>feels great

>>52633978
One reason I didn't buy her.

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>>52633239
>playing apoc game with chaos marines and daemons
>chaos reaver i put on the board has the shittest pose known to man
>vitually 0 balance, oh well
>moving bloodthirster accidentally bump the table, reaver starts to go
>oh shit herewego.jpg
>no free hands so i slam the bloodthirster into the back of the falling reaver
>Bloodthirster shatters like a bitch
>khorne doesn't care where the blood flows.
>pieces fly everywhere but i stop the reaver and straighten him out
>i say the bloodthirster took the D and let the other team take the kill point.

>>52634614
Well, not for plasma. Termy armor was built to wade through plasma, it should honestly get a special resistance to it.

>>52634584
A Guardsman shooting AV 12 with an Autocannon will cause a hullpoints about 1/3 of the time.

A guardsmen shooting a Marine with a -1 rend autocannon will be causing a wound a little under half the time.

How is that not an anti-tank weapon doing its job?

>>52634620
>Give Power Armour +1 against Rending (Rending 1 becomes 0)
>Power Armour ignores Rending on Ranged weapons less than 6.

>>52634620
Or just you know, give marines 2 wounds

>>52634651
Because Marines are not tanks, regardless of how much people want to pretend they are.

>>52634667
See, that's what I said! Keep Marines tough, but still taken down by concentrated fire.

>>52634667
>having to track multiple wounds of several squads of 10 man marines
I'd rather just not have any saves at all than endure that.

>>52634667
>inb4 updated marines have 4" movement, 4 wounds, 4 attacks, and 4 bravery for the new leadership system

>>52634620
>how can we make it so marines aren't reduced to meat-chunks by basic weaponry?
make high RoF weapons less common
ditch rapid fire (on non-marines)
bring back to-hit modifiers
make heavy ordinance actually expensive/limited

basically just go back to 2nd edition, because although it was far from perfect it did a lot of shit right

>>52634699
If they go back to 5e wound allocation then it becomes a non-issue.

>>52634671
All the fluff implies they are tanks, and they certainly need to be in order to take over planets with 1000 guys and beat 100 to 1 odds like they're said to.

If marine armor is about ad good as hiding in some bushes against a cheap as chips guard weapon, how do they do anything?

>>52634617
How do you know? Qah was stated to be an old one active just half a million years ago in Xenology.

Khaine is obviously the Burning One, a c'tan who knew how to work the webway and liked playing with fire in the warp. The avatars of khaine are c'tan shards that don't remember they should kill the eldar. Either he was a c'tan who defected twice or there's a mean to convert old ones into c'tan or vice versa.

>>52634651
AV 12 = 5+ for an Autocannon to hurt.
>33%

Marine = 2+ to Wound?(5/6 or 83%) and 1 or 2 to fail the Armour Save (1/3 or 33%)
>Translates to 28%

Autocannons kill vehicles better than Marines.

>>52634739
> But anon, 1000 marines can take over a planet.

>>52634639
Plasma reactors, not focused bolts of plasma hurled at a speed that could force the energy through muh super space metal.

>>52634727
You mean the Wound shuffle that made Dragiostars and Nobbikers such bullshit?

>Oh that's my unit of 10 Paladins. You need to do 11 Wounds before a single one dies :]

>>52634739
You forgot the -1 Rend value that we're discussing.

With that, the 83% chance to wound goes down to around 40 since you fail on a 3 or lower. And look at that, marines are less durable than something that could actually be called a tank.

new player here, how do I use deep strike units effectively? Try to drop them behind enemy lines? I've got two squads of custodes with deep strike but it's not something I've used before

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>>52634784

>>52634784
You use it to get them to a good position to shoot at something, since you can't assault out of a Deep Strike. I don't know what Custodes are even good for.

>>52634739
Hull points are kill?

>>52634773
>Constant swirling vortex of plasma
>brief impact from a smaller amount of plasma

Really though, I think the answer might be to just half rend from such weapons for terminators.

>>52634801
They're fucking hard to kill and they eat TEQs for breakfast.

>>52634810
We don't know jack shit about 8th edition yet.

>>52634828
They already said they're planning to get rid of armour values.

>>52634813
Something, definetely. I mean, the Avatar got to be immune to melta, so it's not unprecedented.

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>>52634784
You have an ability to only scatter 1d6 instead of 2d6 inches. That's huge. Use it.

You deep strike to get into an awkward position that would take you several turns of walking and being shot at to get to. Instead, they have one turn to shoot you before you can assault, and zero before you can shoot.

Position yourself so it's unlikely that you'll scatter onto something. Remember: you can't be within 1 inch of enemy models or you mishap. Mishap isn't so bad these days, but that's a lot of points not being used.

You are slow as shit and expensive. Deep strike lets you not be killed before you can earn your points back.

>>52634813
...You know that they don't actually jump in to the plasma reactors, right? That the armour is just developed to allow them to work near it safely?

>>52634841
where?
genuinely curious

>>52634784
there is no general answer
ensure you dont misshap
ensure you dont put tem directly into th enemies guns
make your opponent have a hard time to either remove your deepstrikers or attackin the rest of your army
OR have them kill something valuale (usually meltaguns and similar, dunno if custodes have that)

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so who is the best Triumvirate model for the eldar?
>and please let it be yvraine

>>52634864
The Adepticon spoilers. They are on the Warhammer Community Site.

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How's this look to you guys? I intend to just cast lots and lots of spells.

>>52634841
No they didn't you dunce.

>>52634889
They didn't say shit about Hull Points or Armour Values being removed and you know it.

>>52634865
custodes have bolters/storm bolters and s6ap2/s5ap3 melee weapons. And they can shoot/assault with them in the same turn.

>>52634917
can they assault after deepstrike? they need a special rule, as normally you may not

bolters/storm bolters are not worth deepstrikin

>>52634866

None of them - if you are asking from a competitive point of view.

>>52634866
Like visually or competitively?
Yvarine is probably the most competitive as the Sword is mediocre doing nothing too fancy that a kitted out HQ can't do and the Yncarnate is a LOW and Wraithknights do better there.

>Plus she's a Psyker. Psykers usually are always good

>>52634897
Yes they did you animal.

>>52634942
Nah but they only scatter 1d6 and can reroll mishaps. They're definitely more melee focused, but they're so tough (t5w2, 2+/5++(3++ w/ shield)) that it'll probably be pretty hard to kill the squad before they get a chance to charge next turn.

Aside from the date do we know anything about 8th? Any rumors?

>>52634555
>Also, newcron fluff retconned that C'tan developed warp weapons.

No, it didn't. The Pylons are still a thing.

>>52635003
I think it would work if you can land them in some ruins. They can hide out of sight, then spend their time getting around the wall and charging something nearby

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>>52634992
visually I love yvraine (My archons waifu though she doesn't know it yet) but I was asking competitive I still plan on using them all since Fluff>WAAC but thats good to hear that yvraine will be useful

>>52634968
that makes me a sad pointy ear

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>>52635072

>>52635072

Playing Ynnari is a pretty straight forward affair - its not much different than Eldar, you just get the take reavers without any other ally tax.

>>52635003
might work


the big problem is that things which do not like being charged can move away
or your opponent has a turn puttin cheap stuff between the custodes and your target so you have to remove it

add to that there is a good chance your dudes will come turn 3 or 4 its rather risky against an opponent who knows what he does. especially when the custodes eat a lot of points

I am a poorfag who wants to get into the tabletop. I played a lot of dawn of war. Which i understand is nothing like the tabletop, but i love 40k's lore

Anyway any suggestions for inexpensive armies and what race/faction to start playing with?

>>52635123
That's fair. I played them this weekend and just started with them on the board with one inside a land raider. Both squads made it to the other side of the board and not a single one of them died.

>>52635123

I think you play them as a distraction carnifex and if you commit to it you do it with some form of reserve manipulation.

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>>52635085
I dont want a 3dpd gf dad gawd

>>52635113
yeah well I play both eldar and dark eldar already so it should be fun and my archon aswell as my autarch will be working with the ynnari

>>52635141
Knights :^)

More seriously, what do you like? marines can be cheap with Betrayal at calth,
and mechnicus can be cheap with roberts

>>52635141
500-750 points armies (which are like a quarter or third of a regular game size) aren't that expensive. You can get started for around 200 euros or less.

>>52635141
start slow, as in kill team. Army doesn't matter they are either pricey or really pricey, get what you want.
Also ebay is your best friend cause they'll be at least half the price

>>52635141
You should probably play kill team or shadow war if you're on a budget. Fullscale 40k is expensive, there's really no way around that.

>>52635141
space marines especially dark angels
the current starter kit (dark vengeance) has them (single pose models with less parts/poseability) and there are many who sell them squadwise on ebay so you can get them cheap
furthermore at the moment GW has a horus-heresy standalone game box with older marine armors for cheap (betrayal at calth and to a lesser degree burning of prospero) but there is no reason why they are not useable for 40k

be aware a new edition will come out this summer, so dont pay much for rules/codex as they might be out of date soon (noone knows much, as usual)

>>52635174
>>52635186
>>52635189


I see thanks for the advice. But my budget is less than 200$ i guess i should hold off before starting?

>>52635164

I run the following for my list:

Reborn Warhost
>Farseer - Jetbike, Spirit Stone, Singing Spear (Warlord)
>Farseer - Jetbike, Singing Spear
>3x Jetbikes - 3x Scatter Lasers
>3x Jetbikes - 3x Scatter Lasers
>1x Beastmaster, 5x Khymera
>6x Reavers - 2x Cluster Caltrops, 2x Blasters
>Crimson Hunter - Exarch

Reborn Warhost
>Autarch - Farseer, Fusion Gun, Banshee Mask
>Archon - Webway Portal, Blaster, Shadowfield
>3x Jetbikes - 3x Scatter Lasers
>3x Jetbikes - 3x Scatter Lasers
>6x Reavers - 2x Caltrops, 2x Blasters
>5x Wraithguard - D-Scythes
>Wraithlord - Glaive and Shield

Gives me double soul bursts on any potential soul burst.

>>52635236
You can get started in kill team for about $50. But yeah, if you wanna play actual 40k you're gonna need more than that.

Also, look into the start collecting boxes. They're not enough to play a full game, but they are good value.

>>52635236
yea, wait for 8th ed

>>52635236
start small
learn to paint (buy only the paints you really need things get expensive fast)

see if its for you

>>52635236
Thatd be enough for a pair of star collecting boxes and some paints, easily. Depends what army you want to play, but that's be enough for 500 points at least.

>>52635072
>My archons waifu though she doesn't know it yet
Your archon will soon meet his demise at huge power fist and burning sword.

>>52635276
>>52635264
>>52635261
>>52635260
Okay. I'll look into this stuff thanks.

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>>52635256
nice list very bike heavy. you think I could take some venoms atm I have more dark eldar the craftworlders

>>52635328

I ran venoms for awhile - they're not amazing but if you put something other than Warriors in them they're serviceable. I try not to run any non vehicles to take full advantage of Soul Burst - the Crimson hunter is my one exception as an AA choice.

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>>52635303
girlyman doesn't love her like I do (dark elf Screeching)

what's the normal point limit for Kill Teams?

>>52635433
200

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how plausible is it lore wise that my archon could be the biological son of lelith hesperax and a one night stand with another archon who lelith killed?

>>52635409
makes sense they seem better in pure dark eldar lists it seems

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*dial-up noises*

>>52635460

As much as I love my Dark Eldar (so much so that I own a full CTC and 24 reavers) there are very few good choices in the book. Venoms are good because they're a cheap multiplier/ObSec choice but they're not a GOOD troop option outside the book.

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A question about the Decurion, is it an automatic NOPE from anyone but WAAC fags with Riptide Wings who can't get a game with anyone else?

I built a fairly mild version that's basically the oldcron masses of infantry with a few war machines; there's also a "fuck your shit" version that drops the Lychguard and Auxiliary formations for a Destroyer Cult and loading the Lord up on a Catacomb Command Barge.

>>52635522
Also, I get how people think this is OP but honestly most of the buffs come from the formations themselves, and has nobody ever noticed that NOTHING in this FBD gets ObSec?!

>>52635522

Decurion is a pretty firmly mid tier option in today's meta game. See >>52635256 for actual WAAC faggotry. Also you lose ObSec for a reason - that's why CADs are still good.

>>52635580
>Decurion is a pretty firmly mid tier option in today's meta game
The constant greentext bitching seems to think otherwise, but I'll keep that in mind.

>>52635609

Anyone who complains about a decurion isn't playing competitive 40k. The best thing Necrons can do right now is make stupid ass deathstars with mixed armor saves and toughnesses.

>>52634620
>GW: "let's make 40k more simple and balanced by adding rending"
>fan base: "But what about muh mahreeeens??"

I'm 100% sure you'll get some special snowflake rule to circumvent these changes.

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CSM players what's your opinion on Ahriman? He's extraordinarily expensive and I'm not sure how much of an advantage there is to running him over a regular Exalted Sorcerer.

>>52635639
So you wouldn't hate going against that list in a friendly-but-challenging match?

>>52635721

Not at all - its a fun and challenging game most of the time. I have a few armies I might not play against because it wouldn't be fun for one side or the other but the bulk of my 'everyday at the game store' lists I'd enjoy that game.

Are the two Tau Decurions any good?

>>52634400
Slaanesh is about excess not sex.

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>>52633578
It does look pretty nice, though.

In related news, Hastings can still go eat shit, not that anybody is surprised by this.

>>52634633
BLUE BOARD

>>52635709
He's more psychic-oriented compared to an Exalted, whereas Exalted are more of an all-comers beatstick. Ahriman has ML4 and his staff that lets him cast multiple of the same power.

>>52635033
The Burning One build Dolmen Gates to enter the webway.

>>52635709
Being able to triple Psychic shriek alone makes Ahriman three times as good as a single exalted sorcerer.

>But no familiar wah wah wah
Re-roll still doesn't beat being able to attempt to cast the same witchfire three times. Even using a single dice for WC 1 witchfires all three times can work just fine ; likely to cast it at least once, if you're a little lucky you cast it thrice !

I've always used Ahriman in my Thousand Sons army since 6th edition, he makes Thousand Sons at least a little bit viable on his own.

>>52635782

They're usable but their individual formations are far better.

>>52634699

Or you're forced to remove full models before allocating other wounds?

>>52635750
Excellent, just what I was hoping to hear.

>>52635709
>>52635811

I've lost my Wraith Knight twice to him because of multiple shrieks.

>>52633732
>>52633578
>>52634131

PLASTIC SISTERS GUISE!
THEY SAID IT IN A VIDEO ONCE!

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Is there anything that orks can't loot?

>>52635873

Won games

>>52635873
The Emperor, the Chaos Gods, the Hive Mind, Living Saints, Greater Daemons, and maybe some other stuff.

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>>52633732
>>52633578

C'mon guys, are you really that sad that FW is making it? Because we all know what would happen if GW did it.

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>>52635883

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>>52635900
>Living Saints
Think again

>>52635901

That's too streamline, man. You have to invert the wings and move them to the top

>>52635901
The plastic Baneblade wasn't shortened was it? I mostly hoped for plastic so I could bring back a hope of having a Transporter variant.

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What if Warhammer had a TCG?

>>52633109
>guilliman wont do anything
mark my words!

>>52633189
More like shits of sanguinus

>>52635954
if 40k was a TCG it'd be way more accessible but not nearly as cool looking.

>>52635918
Needs way more dakka

>>52633109
I made a Legion of my own, since all the existing legions are gay.
Emperor had a son with a living saint psycher, creating the first non-lab made Primarch, free of chaos corruption.
Emperor gave him his best troops, equipment and special permission to use xeno tech.
He went into the eye of the storm and beaten several chaos gods.
I played it and tested it mself, after making my own stats and point cost.
Too bad the authistics at my shop wont let me play them, because they are cowards and know that I would win.

>>52635954
It did have one in the early 2000s, failed miserably like the other billion TCG that popped up around that time.

>>52635918
>a dinky metal halo on top of the rocket pack
Those boyz are alright

>>52635954
that card is complete garbage

>>52636047
You could take off the (6) entirely and it wouldn't be broken.

>>52635954
There was one that released in 2001. Needless to say it didn't gain any traction and died the miserable death that all card games deserve.

>>52636041
so Grey Knights with Kaldor Draigo?

>>52635954
THey had a GREAT CCG, and then fantasy flight got rid of GW

>>52635918
what? how?

>>52636088
looks like someone wasn't very good at yugioh

>>52636108
GW got rid of FFG
to FFG the move came as a suprise

>>52635918

>St Celestork
>casts a golden halo of light from its leaky (and fiery!) fuel tank
>whenever this model makes a jump move roll a d6
>on a 1-5, units within that many inches take a d3 S4 Ap5 hits
>on a 6, the main fuel line has ruptured and Explodes! All units within 6 inches suffer d6 S5 Ap5 hits and Celestork is removed from the table
>She's really fired up?

>>52636092
Grey Knights, winning, haha.

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How do you kill a Bloodthirster?

>>52636233
Gaze of Magnus

>>52636233
ap3, strength 5+ instant death.

>>52636233
By throwing conscripts at it until it's thirst is sated

>>52636233
Hit it with a Tyrant/ a couple of Carnifexes and hope for the best?

>>52636233
spam lascannons

>>52636233

Scatbikes.

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>>52633578
Fuck that.
It'll happen, you just watch. Plastic thunderhawks one day
right after plastic sisters :^)

>>52636172

Sort of? It was a mutual decision based mostly on GW wanting them to take a specific direction with Blood Bowl and that wasn't the way FFG wanted to go with it.

>>52635934
No, but it had absolutely atrocious castings in places; it basically spawned the 'horizontal rivets' meme.

Do imperial guard missile launchers reload from the front or the back?

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Holy shit YES.
I manged to build an entire squad of wytches out of spare raider crew models, even better they're all doing crazy jojo poses!

I wish someone told me about this earlier.

If only the leader could swap her knife instead of her gun for a pistol, else I would have made her a gunslinger.

>>52636450
Steel legion are muzzle loaders, but the rest look like they take it in the pooper

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>>52636508
you gotta post pics anon, show me those jojo references!

>>52636430
Isn't it more that GW was getting back into board games and shouldn't be directly competing with one of its affiliates?

>>52636446
I have one in a box somewhere from when they released, which parts had that problem? Never heard of the issue before.

I've got 4 Missile Launchers for my Devastate squad, but only one of those missile-loader backpacks the tactical box comes with.

Should I just give them all normal packs, or give the missile one to the sergeant and have him there passing out ammo?

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>>52635918
Man, can we get more looted sisters?

>>52636588
afaik they came with normal packs for a long time anyway.
you might glue some spare missiles somewhere on the rocketmen but its not required.

as the backpack comes with a loading crane or sorts, i'd rather not give it to the sarge