/5eg/ Fifth Edition General - Familiar Edition

>>52631941
quantity of magic items

>>52631957
What is the purpose of this every thread? It doesn't bother me one way or another, I'm just puzzled as to what you get out of it.

Previous thread here
>>52624055

>>52631941
>What are some things you don't miss from previous editions?
Choice overload with trap options.

>>52631971
He's a shitposter trying to force a meme. Stop giving him attention, you retard.

>>52631964
Thiiiiiiiiiisssssssssssss

>>52631971
>It doesn't bother me one way or another
T R I G G E R E D

What can we expect in the UA today?
2nd & 3rd level spells?

>>52631941
>What are some things you don't miss from previous editions?
Dozens of rulebooks and players who insist on being allowed to source all of them during chargen.

>>52631941
All the idiotic things meant to bring martials down, such as rogue not being able to sneak attack 70% of the Monster Manual.

What would be good components for Karsus's Avatar?

>>52631993
Oh shit, there's an UA today. Yes, I expect spells.

>Today's UA: High-Flying Maneuvers.

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>>52632034
I wouldn't mind more manuevers for battlemaster.

>>52632007
It's the only 10th level spell and it steals the divinity from a god and gives it to you, so I can't imagine it would be practically castable in any way in game. Karsus had the resources of the entire Netherese empire at his disposal, as well as magical training and knowledge simply not available now.

If making a mythal required the elves to sacrifice themselves, you'd need a thousand powerful wizards to give their lives (you can bring them back if the spell works) and an entire empire's worth of resources that the spell devours. You also need to rub your balls on the complete set of the Nether Scrolls.

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>>52632034
>Today's UA: Lissandri, Goddess of Half-Elves

>>52632163
Your waifu is shit, and you should be ashamed that you ever published her online.

>>52631941
Skill points
Level adjustment/racial hit dice
Racial ability score penalties
Prestige classes
Base attack bonus
An excess of useless, redundant, unnecessary or just plain stupid character options
Lots of tiny bonuses that people count and recount over and over again in hopes that they missed one that will let them pass whatever check they were trying to make

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>>52632034
>Today's UA: Aberration Player Options

>>52632211
this guy again

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>>52632163
>worshipping our Lady of the Mules

Hilarious. It's like you think you're people!

How does mounting with the revised Beast Master work? Can your companion still attack on its own initiative (so without the level 5 feature) or does it then only count as a normal mount?

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>>52632163
Fuck you. Stop forcing your homebrew. Or even better, hang yourself.

>>52632211
If you want to play as some unholy and retarded fetish porn mongoloid with no place in civilized society, you already have the gnomes

>>52632237
>How does mounting with the revised Beast Master work?
Same way as always, anon. From behind, using hogties.

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>>52632243
runnin out of sad reaction images...

So we did >rolling for stats
And I got myself a fun line.

I can arrange as I want. I have the following:
18
18
17
13
12
3

I plan on making a bestial kind of character. Effectively an animal companion for thr group. We have a Ranger, Druid and Bard, so there are plenty of things to help control it, and a Warlock of the old gods, who should be able to communicate somewhat with me, if I remember the old gods initial ability correctly.

What would you suggest? Help me build a fun character that can get away with action like a dumb brute of some kind. I dont want the stereotypical dumb Neanderthal dude with a large club, but rather an actual "animal intelligence" character, more akin to a dog or cat, who cant speak at all. I will probably go with something like a Gnome and refluff it slightly, but I am open to better suggestions.

Any great ideas come to mind? The outlander "raised by wolves" backstory would tie in well, but also feels a tad obvious.

Class is still my primary concern though. I vsnt really figure out a class tgat would work well as a complete idiot that can't speak.

>>52632211
I like this idea

How would running out of the abyss as a first time DM pan out?

>>52632211
i hate this idea

>>52632325
Just put the 3 in charisma and be an ugly and repulsive motherfucker.
Just like real life

>>52632325
>3
Your character cannot even function. I would've just said NPC'd and reroll.

>>52632371
>NPC'd a character who has 2 18s and a 17
While he might be lacking in one department, he more than makes up for it in the others

>>52632391
Lacking? If his attribute(3) were to lower at any point, he dies instantly. Or did they change that this edition?

>>52631941
Hello board, is it possible to integrate COS after LMOP?
And if so how would you go about it? Thanks.

>>52632427
I should add that i have a decently homebrewed LMOP , i may just end up connecting nezznar to strahd but still.
They're a 3 pc party so maybe goign into the camapign with higher level will balance it otu a bit.

Which one is better?
6 Arcane Trickster Rogue (Hand crossbow spec)

or

3 Arcane Trickster / 3 Bladesinger (and the rest of the level in bladesinger)

The first one will be able to do more damage but the second one look like it got more options.

>>52632468
don't mc

>>52632248
>retarded fetish porn mongoloid
???

>>52632427
Possible, but I wouldn't advise it. The two adventures have vastly different mood and feel to it.

>>52632468

3 levels in Arcane Trickster, two levels in blade singer, rest in Arcane trickster

You get to be the thing you actually are supposed to be, and take all the useful bits out of the thing you want the thing which you actually want to be that makes it be better

>>52632329
it's more lethal than other published campaigns, so you might have to stumble a couple of times through it. i'd recommend you lost mines of phandelver and then jump into any of the other published works.

>>52632524
Quite the opposite, the only thing I want from arcane trickster is Mage Hand Legerdemain.

>>52632512
Yeah i hear you, but i do run the camapign slightly more seriously than it was intended to be.
The main problem is how the levelling system is preferred in cos, by doing milestones, where i do XP instead.

>>52632550
That sounds incredibly stupid. Run me by your concept

>>52632325
is this with or without racials?
because with this you can literally be a god at anything and just suck at your dump stat.

your safest bets are 3 STR or 3 CHA, if you can get racials in there, just make the 3 a 5 or 4, and one of the 18s a 20, if you went with a 5, then you can pick resilient feat and make it a 6 with proficiency so you don't automatically die to saves with it, unless it is str or cha, which you won't ever need either way.

i'd say a martial would be a huge waste of those stats, with those stats you can be an amazing gish or spellcaster. half-elf, hexblade, 3+1STR, 18+2CHA, 18CON, 17+1DEX, 12INT, 13WIS and call it a day.

>>52632237
Noone?

I want to make a Beast Master but I'm unsure if I make a small character who mounts his companion and goes into melee or someone who supports his companion at range.
I want to make a stealth duo, but the wolf and panther both get features to knock enemies down, which is shitty for a ranged ranger.

>>52632415
Several creatures have 2 int

Does anyone have the most recent version of the Martial Options hombrew made by that one anon?
The only two versions I've found are the 1.0:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw05QT69rQHXNDRER3RDdjlJS28/view

and 1.5, which was last updated July 2015
https://archive.4plebs.org/dl/tg/image/1435/96/1435961027148.pdf

>>52632592
A sneaky wizard instead of a rogue with wizard power?

>>52632325
Sounds perfect for a monk my man
Fluff it as a feral humanoid (or whatever), play him like a barbarian. Go Open Hand, pounce on people and lay into them. Spam flurry's knockdown effect and maul dudes

Go 3 into CHA because you're basically a dirty, nasty Tarzan raised by wolves or whatever

>>52632609
you're obsessed w/ this 'brew!

>>52630904
I can agree with that, but I wouldn't say that makes LG 'not nice'.
He's the cop that's more likely to let you get away with minor infringements and such if he thinks you're honestly not a real threat to everyone. He's the sort who'd be least happy to have to have somebody scalped for what they've done, but is prepared to have it happen, as it's what everybody would want and better for everyone's security.
Lawful neutral is the one that does it with a lot less heart and lawful evil might even take pleasure in administering punishment themelf. That's what distinguishes them apart.

>>52632593
Without racials.

But my dumb stat is going to be int. The question is what to do with the rest.

>>52632034
>Today's UA: Adventuring Cuisine. Cook aberrations gain power.

>>52632325
>Rolling for stats
>>52632659
>It's another low intellect character, because they're so fun, right? I mean, why play a character when you could play a DOG?
>Read original post again, oh shit, it is a pet

But to be honest, I don't really see a lot of good experiences with low intellect characters. They're just cheap laughs who don't really contribute a lot to the game.

>A complete idiot that can't speak
Link.
HYAA
HAAAA
HYA

Has anyone tried playing via Discord? Post pre-written descriptions, riddles, combats ect while chatting online.

>>52632745
Done it a few times.

It seems good for roleplaying focus, but I find it allows people laziness and games can be a bit slower through that.

Should Krakens have psychic influence (i.e. be able to create Kraken Priests and stuff) when they're still in eggs, or should I just keep the egg as a black box McGuffin until it hatches? I feel like adventurers carrying around a thing that messes with their brains is a little played-out, but it also makes it easier to find an excuse to give it to them.

>>52632325
>but rather an actual "animal intelligence" character, more akin to a dog or cat, who cant speak at all.

Make a dench Kenku? Like, you come from this tribe of scrawny birdmen, but you were born a birdy beefcake with the stamina to spook you enemies all night long without breaking a sweat .

>>52632659
don't dump int, it's not going to be fun when you literally can't do shit but fight because you can't justify logical thought process or understand languages.

just dump CHA and be a deformed motherfucker.

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>>52632034
>Today's UA: Warlord Class.

>>52631941
>What are some things you don't miss from previous editions?

Assumed wealth/treasure by level factored into CR calculations

>>52632830
That art is really bad.

>>52632796
3 cha would be some problems with willpower, expression and all that rather than physical deformity.

It'd basically give you a ridiculously low self-esteem, too shy to do anything and have everybody walk all over you all day.

3 dex would be the most fun.

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>>52632855
4E art always cracks me up pic related.

>>52632868
i'm playing a 6 dex, 7 con wizard and let me tell, it's pretty fucking fun. the dm is terrified of targeting me with anything, because he doesn't want my character to die for plot reasons but he keeps almost killing every other member only for my character to save them with portent and shit.

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>>52632902
>implying

>>52632781
Also, if anyone has any ideas for conditions needed to hatch a kraken egg, hit me with them. Nobody else in my group has read ASOIAF so I feel pretty comfortable ripping off fan theories for it, but I'm going for something more lighthearted than "murder about an entire town's worth of people," at least until the egg has hatched.

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>>52632163
No.

>>52632958
Keep it under the sort of extreme pressure you'd find in the deep sea.

>>52632624
I've made literally one post man, I'm just curious if this is the final version.

How are the mass combat rules from UA?

>>52632958
biologically speaking, the kraken egg would die when brought to the surface. it probably needs very specific concentrations of oxygen in water and pressure, direct sunlight would probably irradiate it with much more UV radiation than it could survive in.

so your best bet is anything magical you want, i'd say a embryo kraken would still exert some degree of psychic energy, but assuming krakens are anything like real cephalopods (they aren't but w.e), they are probably born really, really small, but completely formed as adults, and just grow in all directions with age, brain and psionics included.

>>52632958
Can only be hatched in the eye of an ocean storm. Otherwise, it's borderline indestructible, so in nature, it gets swept into storms and is born into the scenes of destruction it's required to cause as it grows in order to feed.

>>52632415
You are thinking of 0.

>>52632659
So, let's be clear about something.

Average intelligence is 8-10 for non-pcs.

5 int would be a turbo retard.

3 means you can't function as a humanoid, not you'd revert to some animalistic form.

Unless you're playing some homebrew literal animal, this is gonna get Lange really fast.

Barbarian is probably your best bet, though.

Also everyone in the thread that thinks charisma has anything to do with appearance is a fucking idiot. You can be ugly as shit and have a high charisma, it's just related to your inborn ability to influence other people to join your way of thought.

For reference, politicians are often ugly, and charismatic.

>>52632325
Dump intelligence, put 18 in Charisma and play Wesey Willis as a Bard. I've always wanted to but you can't play him with point buy.

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>>52632163
No.

How many magic item should a level 6 character start with? DMG said 500gp and no magic item... that seems wrong...

>>52633063
I'm going with "Krakens are the chosen monsters of the meanie ocean goddess" approach, so I'm not binding their eggs to normal water rules.

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So I did something absolutely stupid and gave my players two of apparatus of kwalish for a quest reward, but they rarely use it and now I want to fuck with them. Each one has a never mentioned hidden lever. Webm related is what it does.
Can anyone give me a good set up to have them do this? I feel like a generic "Big lizard thing attacks" would be a bit too on the nose.

>>52633165
>That seems wrong
But it's 5e.

>>52633165
Seems ok. I'd give them a +1 weapon or a uncommon magic item that wasn't too strong if I was feeling generous

>>52633190
Shouldn't martials have at least a magic weapon?
Monk and Druid get their magical attack at level 6.

>>52633209
It's not like you absolutely need one unless your DM throws endless non-magical-weapon-resistant enemies at you.
And if you need one, the DM can throw you one somewhere along the lines as part of the story instead of 'obligatory buffs to your character'.

Monks aren't very damaging in the first place and druids are goddamn druids.

Tales from the Yawning Portal answers some of this

Not only you need a salt water tank, you need that tank to be transmutated to keep itself pure all the time, and have a potent enchantment to keep its mind powers stable

Additionally to that, I'd add you have to have a source of immense electricity, and a conduit to the elemental plane of water

>>52633313
I haven't looked through that book and can't get a copy on my phone too easily right now - could you screenshot the part that talks about it?

>>52633313
This was supposed to be a reply to the kraken issue

>>52633080
technically 0 intelligence stuns you indeterminately, or until you recover some intelligence.

>>52633131
going with the monster manual, Int<2 seems to be pure animal, no understanding of languages whatsoever, 5~3 seems to be the range where things can understand languages but not speak it, 6~7 things can understand and sometimes speak languages, anything higher than 7 being minimum humanoid intelligence.

by example, apes and phase spiders have 6 int but can't speak nor understand any languages, while giant vultures have 6 int and can understand common but not speak it, other more magical creatures, like chimeras, can understand languages without speaking them.

>>52633337

not readily either, but what I said is basically the gist of it.
The red wizards of thay are raising an aquatic army of monsters, one of which is a malformed kraken.
They are kept in water tanks that have to be constantly kept pure and mind enchantments to keep them sane

>>52632427
>>52632450
anyone elese?

>>52633359


>Pools. The saltwater pools in this sector are 50 feet
deep, and the surface of each pool is 1 foot below the
surrounding floor. lt takes 5 extra feet of movement to
move from a pool onto the floor. Unless otherwise noted,
transmutation magic in each pool keeps the water clean.
The pools also exude enchantment magic. Living in
the water causes hypnotic dreams that, after weeks or
months of exposure, improve combat skill and imbue
most creatures with strong devotion to the Red Wizards

One of which is a malformed kraken.

>>52633359
Is "pure" defined at all - like is salt water considered pure for it?

>>52632427
What he said
>>52632512
Is very applicable. If you're looking for an alternative to death house as an intro adventure, perhaps consider Sunless Citadel. It's got a white dragon you can refluff into having something to do with Argynvost, and a Gulthias tree.


If you simply must do mines of phandelver, the book gives you a Forgotten Realm Factions based plot hook with which to dump them straight in Vallakis, with Ireena already there as a refugee, wanting desperately to consult on what to do next with madam eva.

Barovia is almost entirely skippable.

>>52632427
i'm sure every book tells you how to jump into it from other works, specially from LMoP, you might want to check the pdf supplements from wizard's page.

>>52633433

Nope. More like "Clean" than anything else, but this I guess is where you step in as the DM and say "As pure as the water from the elemental plane"

>>52633454
I might just do an asspull and make this egg exist outside of those conditions. I don't really plan to ever integrate Yawning Portal, and if I do, it sounds like theirs is somehow deformed, so I'd probably just say it required special care to keep it alive that most don't.

>>52633512

Look, the toys are still all there. Salt Water, Telepathic, Lightning Storm.
You'll figure something out.

>>52631993
I'd like some random race stats, but more spells would be cool.

>>52633209
No. Druids literally cast spells, so they have a ton of magical attacks straight from level 1. Monks are special. You want to make monks not special?

>>52631993
We got spells last UA so I kinda hope for exotic weapons and armour. I doubt it, but it'd be fucking rad.

Either that or another attempt at Weapon Mastery feats.

>>52631993
I'd like some tables with a few hundred different magic item properties.

It's almost survey time, how would you fix Chaos Bolt?

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I'm preparing to run Sunless Citadel this weekend for my players. Are there any encounters I should be careful with? I don't want a first-session TPK, especially with two players who have never played an RPG before.

Is it an evil act to kill people who are likely to be infected with an incredibly deadly, infectious, and nigh undetectable disease if I go it to protect the people of their Township?
My party today killed a few of our setting's version of zombies and they had a few people caged up. Now, my character has experience with these zombies and he knows that the only reason they capture people is to produce more of themselves, which begs the question.
My character had no proof and cant prove that the people were infected, but from similar situations it's likely they'd eventually turn and wreak havoc among the town, so I decided to kill them in their sleep while I was on watch and my other party members were asleep.
Did I do a bad /tg/?

>>52631941
What magic items would you pick for a monk if you could grab one very rare, two rare and three uncommon ones?

>>52633894
Would have to look but bracers of defense would be at the top of the list.

new UA when?

>>52633790
Oh don't worry about it. They need to learn how to do TTRPGs somehow. If they die by traps that just cements the fact that they need to be careful.

>>52632325
Tell your GM to use 3d6 anything below 8 fixed to 8 and anything above 16 fixed to 16.

>>52633867
i think your only fuck up may have been not consulting your party first, which you may have done and just didnt mention

>>52633867
How's it going Arthas?

>>52633920
2d6+6
d
6
+
6

>>52633908
Bracers and cloak of defense, perhaps?

>>52633930
No, I consulted the party and the Barbarian didn't care, and the Warlock wanted to take them to the town's doctor. (Who I knew for certain would have no idea about the plague seeing as we were months travel away from the source where my character originated from, and even the people at the source don't know how to detect or cure it properly.)

>>52633867
I wouldn't say evil but it is certainly above the law. The issue is that if there is no way to prove if they were the so called zombies then you might have killed innocents, which of course is really bad, the other problem is that unless that solution fully destroyed them all what stops them from going into hiding and start over?

The best solution would have been to find a reliable form of finding out if they are infected, else you will more likely than not perpetually postpone the problem and leave a wake of corpses.

>>52633958
Getting above 16 at character creation will damage the flow of the game.

>>52633867
Case for Good: The intention is Good, and your character is personally convinced that this is one of those sacrifice the unsalvageable to prevent further tragedy cases.
Case for Evil: You don't know they're infected, and for all you know it's a falseflag to get you to slaughter them on someone's behalf. As they are they're still just sentient peaceable beings, not yet monsters.

>>52633950
kek'd

>>52633786
+1d8 per spell level, so it can chain more consistently as you level it up, it 'going out of control' with the 'more you power it up' is both flavorful as fuck.

if then, they are too afraid of it doing too much damage, make it so the full dice is only for the first target, if it chains up, the second is just the original 2d8 or maybe 1 less per additional target.

>chaos bolt as a 3rd level spell, 4d8 dmg
>if chained, second target takes 3d8
>if it chains again, third target just takes 2d8
And 2d8 afterwards for every possible chain after that.

What are the mechanics for webs, like spider webs?

>>52634037
Ok, you're hired.

>>52633786
Turn it into a cantrip that deals 1d10 damage.

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>>52634084
>>52634084

DMG, p. 105.

>>52633867

Good is not nice. You cleanse that sickness, and you do it in the light of day.

Free Will is the privilege of the chaotic

>>52633695
>This
I love kick ass effects on my magic items and never give out generic +1s.

>>52634037
>so it can chain more consistently as you level it up
But the more d8s you roll, the less likely it is to chain.

>>52634167
I think it would still only require a double to chain even when you're rolling more than 2d8.

>>52633974
The main problem with that is that our party is a continent away from the source of the plague (my character's home country) and even there, where the specialists and such reside, the best way known to stop the spread of the plague is to burn anyone suspected of suffering infection (which occurs via forcefeeding of infected flesh, not just contact or what have you.)
So we're in a little mining town, half the world away from the people who know what they're doing, and even the people who know what they're doing don't know how to properly detect it.
So my character just defaulted to what he was trained to do in his country's military.

>>52634002
My character wasn't actually sent to kill anyone or do anything about the plague, we were sent to the town to investigate some disappearances. I decided on my own to root out and destroy every vector of the plague in the town.

>>52633950
I honestly didn't realise the similarity until a friend not in our party mentioned it to me, although I'm a ranger and not a paladin.

>>52634144
I'm Lawful Neutral, so I figured sticking to the creed of "better to be safe then sorry" would fit. Especially considering my character is deathly afraid of the plague to the point he refuses to reuse arrows he uses against the infected.

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>>52633867
>My character had no proof and cant prove that the people were infected

How can you even consider that? There's got to be some other way

What would the roll be to use a grappling hook?

>>52634130
I think this is the least complicated option. You'd roll your 2d8 on the side like Prismatic Spray's d8.

>>52634143
Thanks man.

>>52634222
>My character wasn't actually sent to kill anyone or do anything about the plague, we were sent to the town to investigate some disappearances. I decided on my own to root out and destroy every vector of the plague in the town.
Hence the case for evil because you don't actually know they're infected for sure although you may be convinced in character and assured by the DM out of it.

>>52634222
That doesn't sound like Lawful Neutral to be honest. Lawful Neutral would mean you go for a fixed code of how to do things, you do things methodically, you don't act on impulse, etc. It sounds like Neutral Good.

>>52633894
>Uncommon
Insignia of Claws (HotDQ)
Broom of Flying
Goggles of Night

>Rare
Bracers of Defense
Ring of Free Action

>Very Rare
Manual of Quickness of Action

What's the best level 3 hunter feat for a gold/hill dwarf ranger?

>>52633894
>rare
Bracers of defense
Amulet of Health
>Uncommon
Cloak of Protection

After that, check the ioun stones, manuals and tomes of extra stats, might as well pick a giant strength belt as your very rare because they are pretty fucking retarded and utility for your uncommon, bags of holding are always useful.

>>52634234
I order you to broil this city.

>>52634257
>That doesn't sound like Lawful Neutral to be honest. Lawful Neutral would mean you go for a fixed code of how to do things, you do things methodically, you don't act on impulse, etc. It sounds like Neutral Good.
>>52634222
>So my character just defaulted to what he was trained to do in his country's military.
I think it checks out.

my playgroup is starting a new campaign this weekend. one of the guys wanted a different class than the usual so he picked bloodmage and searched it. he sent me this link.

https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Blood_Mage_(5e_Class)

I think being able to heal after the fight is over and up to the creatures maximum HP is be but it doesn't look to bad. can I get opinions on it and what I should change?

>>52634283
Extremely debateable, since anarchy is Good by your definition.

What do you guys think of rather powerful PCs?

What I mean is that as a DM I hate it if the PCs have shit stats and I like them generally powerful, even at low levels. Makes them stand out more.

For example, when they roll their stats, I let them reroll everything 11 and under, cause I want them to have positive stats in everything.

Sure it leads to weird things, like the party wizard having his strenght as the lowest stat at 15, but it makes the players more daring, more prone to try risky stuff, which makes things fun.

>>52634167
it would still only requires a double to chain, hence why the extra spellslots only give d6s, they didn't wanted it to chain easier with levels at the cost of it scaling horribly, which ultimately sucks.

>>52634298
>dandwiki
Just don't allow it

>http://media.wizards.com/2017/dnd/downloads/UA_Downtime.pdf
>full on keks

Fuuuuuuuck me.

>>52634298
>https://www.dandwiki.com
Rule of thumb: Don't.
Else, comb through it very carefully.

>This page is of questionable balance. Reason: Full of design errors.

Scratch that, even dandwiki says it's shit.

>>52633186
embarrassing how no one answered

>>52633442
Thanks, i am asking implying LMOP with COS because we are already 3/4 through it and i bought COS and wanted to try and mixing it with it.
>>52633443
Oh shit! Thx very ,much

>>52634303
I like the same, but I am starting to see the wisdom in the PB and array caps being at 15 pre-racial.

Now I just do PB with more than 27 points. I find the sweet spot is between 36 and 40 for super heroics.

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>>52634325

>>52634351
Murder is not a freedom limiting action insofar as everyone is "free" to defend themselves or help others defend themselves.
What you actually mean by "freedom" is "decency as I see it".

wtf i got warned for saying druids are g*ey
butthurt druids!!

>>52634325
Mearl did it again!

>>52634222

Be safe *and* sorry. Role-play nigga

I got a high elf mastermind rogue and I have no idea what to do with my free cantrip anyone anything cool I can do with it

>>52634325
I guess we have gotten everything else we've screamed for... It's not a bad idea.

How can I best optimize an Open Hand Monk for rip and tearing?

>>52634387
Id say booming blade for lockdown in melee, especially with bonus action disengage or taking mobile

>>52631957
Holy shit, mods finally had enough. Reporting shitposters works, people.

>>52634417
The only optimization an Open Hand monk really needs is Mobile to GTFO after hitting things. Use that superior speed to stay out of trouble.

>>52634439
Thank moradin

>>52634399
Meanwhile, however, stopping an individual from murdering someone is an act of infringing on his own freedom.
>but that's just to protect others, one man's freedom stops where another's begins -
People don't exist in a vacuum. Social welfare, minimum wage, and price controls during famine might be construed as 100% Evil because it limits freedom.

>>52634384
He doesn't like killing people, but he's seen the horrors the plague inflicted on his homeland and didn't want others to suffer like his people have.
So I guess he did regret his actions, as necessary as they were. But he was pretty much raised from a young age to consider anyone who was suspected of being infected as already dead.

>>52634325
>For more information, see “Brewing Potions of Healing” in this section on crafting and “Scribing a Spell Scroll” on page Error! Bookmark not defined.

I can see why once a week is too breakneck for them.

>>52634331
>>52634322

he kinda has his heart set on it. and I don't like to limit my players on what they can do.

can you tell me what's so flawed about it or maybe a suggestion on something similar in a third party book or something?

Guys, I need help coming up with items with a SLIGHT catch that a trickster God might bestow to his champions.

thanks in advance

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>>52634325
>http://media.wizards.com/2017/dnd/downloads/UA_Downtime.pdf
MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAARLS

What's the best hunter ranger feat?

>>52634325
Has decent Magic Item Crafting. Huh.

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>>52634457
>implying they aren't pure evil.

>>52634522
Why would you be surprised? People have been crying for magic item crafting rules for a long time. When people ask for shit, don't be surprised when it smells.

>>52634541
>>52634522
>>52634325
>only ever had downtime once
>rolled on carousing
>got me a boyfriend that I was crazy in love with
Never again

>>52634537
>Stopping someone from murdering someone limits one possible action that the murderer can take, while preserving all possible actions that the victim can take. Since all possible actions that one person can take is greater than one in nearly every possible scenario, stopping murder results in a greater overall amount of freedom than permitting it.
So wouldn't it be good to simply, say, force people to have 20 kids each, their will, be damned because this provides greater freedom (we assume that resources are infinite, which they basically are with Create Food and Water)?

>I know you're a liberal cuck, but don't be retarded.
What the fucking shit?

>The fact is that practically speaking, they don't, and in fact, harm people in more practical ways than simply reducing their freedom.
I'm not interested in debating economic policy with you, but you have just said that anything that isn't pure market capitalism is Evil, which is perfectly aligned with canonical D&D alignments - after all, Good and Evil aren't philosophical concepts in D&D, they're (Idealized) Eagleland and (Idealized) Commies, which makes sense considering when it was written.

>>52634590
You know that there's a preview shown, even of PDFs right

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>>52634325
>To determine how many workweeks it takes to create an item, divide its cost by 50
>Potions of healing and spell scrolls are exceptions to the following rules. For more information, see “Brewing Potions of Healing” in this section on crafting and “Scribing a Spell Scroll” on page Error! Bookmark not defined.
>50 weeks to make a rare magic sword

>>52634537
>/pol/ is physically incapable of making a post without using 'cuck'
Epic

>>52634626
shit hold on

>>52634641
A year's work to make a +2 weapon.
Seems reasonable to me.

>>52634641
>Multiple characters can combine their efforts. Divide the time needed to create an item by the number of characters working on it.
This is what skilled hirelings are for. Costs more but cuts the time down dramatically.

>>52634694
Most campaigns don't offer 1 year downtimes. Shit, most of them don't even last an in-game year.

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>>52632211
For this anon - why not a triton with a tentacle beard who has classes in warlock and venerates a GOO?

>>52634724
WOW! Is it really?

Here's the REAL UA: http://media.wizards.com/2017/dnd/downloads/UA_Downtime.pdf

>>52634734
heh heh heh

>>52634641
>>52634694
There's a rule in there for dividing the time by the number of people working on it. You can probably come up with some reasonable division of labor.

>>52634641
Its shit like this that makes me homebrew my own time and materials for crafting the lower level magic items.
A simple, uncommon trinket? 100 gold and a couple of days of work and a spell slot per day.
Things get a little harder with weapons and armor, but I sure as hell know that if someone in my group has the know how to forge a simple shortsword at the very least would be able to craft one easily over the course of a week at most. If the wizard is with them, they can spend more on materials to make it a +1 sword at the end of their adventuring days after another week.
Of course, for balancing reasons, that would be the limit to crafting such magic items. Anything above rare is going to double, and even triple cost, time, and materials at higher rarities.

>>52634710
>All of these are practical problems with your theory, and would probably result in having to take more possible actions from people to keep the system running than are gained by population, before it inevitably collapses. So no, that wouldn't work.
Practical problems are irrelevant under the assumption that it can somehow work. Who the fuck knows, maybe I make myself (a dictator obviously) and get Divine Ranks because of my unstoppable cult of personality and I give my people spells to Create Food and Water or some shit. The idea is that the potential problems have been solved. Actually you know what - I'm not even sure social collapse can be construed as "evil" in your system where "freedom" is all that matters.

>how to you force people to have kids?
Breeding pens or something, or taking their genetic data and just spawning massive numbers of clones and artificial kids without their consent.

>unsatisfied
Not relevant, they're "free" to be unsatisfied and "free" to attack me and overturn the system. That would, of course, allow me to defend myself.

>I have never said that anything that wasn't pure market capitalism is evil. Read you cuck.
But that's exactly what you said, because "greater freedom" is such a loosely defined term that it effectively means "in line with my own values". For example - if you make someone happy, but he is not classically free, this is somehow evil, while making someone miserable by making him free is somehow good.

player of mine wants me to create a warlock patron for him in our campaign. I have zero experience with warlocks outside of a brief skim in the phb.

Am I supposed to just make some whimsical demon that hands out some features?

>>52634809
Have you read Faust? Then you're overqualified.

>>52634809
well it's supposed to be something powerful that gives out some of it's power. Is he asking you to literally homebrew a patron? or just give him an idea for a patron for fiend pact or fey pact or w/e

>>52634834
not him but Faust would be a problem in that theoretically the demon would give the warlock literally anything within his power (that does not threaten the demon), as basically anything is a cheap price for an Aeternal Soul.

>>52632045

Maybe some weapon specific maneuvers.

>In additionally, at the end of the week, you can end one effect that prevents you from regaining hit points or restore one ability score that has been reduced to below its normal value, unless the harmful effect is caused by a spell or other magical effect with an ongoing duration.

Could this save you from an intellect devourer's intelligence drain?

>>52634791
It's kind of odd how people say this but one of the most common things a lot of people clamour for is rules for stuff like building strongholds and learning new stuff in downtime

>>52634809
Does he want you to mechanically create new features, or do you mean he wants you to create a character to be the patron within an existing archetype?

>>52634875
That might count as a magical effect, it's unclear.
Maybe check with the DM?

>>52634906
Fair enough

>>52631964
Any reason why not? I understand that 5e isn't quite balanced around it like previous editions were but I feel like the game is a touch more boring when the world shattering adventurers have but a bag of holding and decanter of endless water amongst them. Obviously not every big hero needed or had magical equipment but still.

>>52634834
I haven't actually.
>>52634845
>>52634883
wants me to create a patron for him that provides new mechanical features, not so much a physical character to interact with on the regular.

>>52634886
>you can't assume yourself around practical objections
But that's not the fucking point. The point of the matter is that given some form of munchkin bullshit, such as the Candle of Invocation loop (is that closed now? I haven't looked at it 5e), the problem has been solved. Poof. In this case is forced breeding the solution?

>I've routinely based my posts on increasing or decreasing the number of possible actions available to all
Which you have noteably failed to quantify in any meaningful way. Are raising my hand and saluting two different actions? Do it count as an action for me to be physically able to punch someone as opposed to be normally willing to due to systemic consequences? How are you measuring 'actions'? By what means are 'actions' defined? Is free will even relevant, considering that personalities are in and of themselves in a way deterministic? And if there is a way to increase the total number of possible actions selfishly would it be permissible to kill people? If I can become somehow omnipotent (i.e. there can never be more actions possible than my omnipotence), should I be able to kill everything to attain it?

>liberal
>liberal
>liberal
I'm not a fucking "liberal" you dumb autist, it's completely loosely defined because "actions" in the physical sense would be more or less maximized by forcing people to run until they die (so their atoms move faster and collide more frequently, thus constituting more events and actions) and then vaporizing them. Actions in the psychological sense can be entirely replicated by placing people in brain tubes. Actions in the "human" sense can be augmented by doing some combo of BNW and 1984, where they certainly have more actions possible than any feudal republic solely by virtue of technological advancement.

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Dragons are lame and chaos magic is cancer. What other options does Sorcerer have?

>>52635030
Favored Soul, Phoenix, Sea, and Stone.

What skills, tools and benefits should a background as a butcher have?

>>52635030
Storm from SCAG, Shadow, Favoured Soul, Phoenix and Stone from UA, Pyromancer from Plane Shift.

>>52635030
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=5e+alternate+sorcerer+origins

I'm running SKT, it's my first time DMing a module before.

I genuinely have no idea how you're supposed to run the huge invasion at the end of chapter 2. How do you even map something like that out?

>>52632957
this art is the reason I will never play a halfling

>>52635054
Animal Handling, I guess? Maybe Survival or Nature?

>>52635063
Basically don't use a combat grid.
I printed a large version of the Triboar map, the players decided where they were when the giants arrived and I placed the NPCs where they went.
Then I just ran it.

>>52635017
That's an unreasonable request. Tell the faggot to choose one of the existing patrons. There are 4 officially published and 4 more in UA.

Duel wielding ranger + colossus slayer

Is it any good (for being a ranger)?

>>52633867
the best option would be to keep them contained until you can prove they're not infected. Killing them before that risks killing innocents. If you know the timeframe of the illness then even better

>>52631964
Fucking beat me to it first post. Also, I say the quality of magic items. Instead of just a +4 Keen Holy Flaming Fuckstick worth exactly 240,567 gold, magic items are treated as unique things with subjective value and crafting rules left in the DM's hands.

Also, less reliance on magic items. Your Level 15 Barbarian with 18 STR and a standard greataxe can still hit a 22 CR dragon without needing a crit.

>>52635017
That's fucking stupid, he's asking you to homebrew a class for him, essentially.

>>52635017
>provides new mechanical features
Tell him and his special snow flake needs to fuck off.

>>52635017
>wants me to create a patron for him that provides new mechanical features
Tell him this:
>No, you stupid faggot. Fuck you. You have plenty of options both in the core, splat and Unearthed Arcanas - either you play them, or you don't play warlock.

>>52635096
>Given infinite magic power you can construct any scenario using almost any moral system to produce an absurd result. Because infinite magic power makes things absurd. It isn't relevant. Now cuck off.
You're skirting the question. Morality exists independent of power unless you're playing the might makes right card. Even without infinite power just imagine a land that just got hit by a war, drought, and plague in succession or something so is heavily depopulated compared to its theoretical capacity. People would breed anyway but it'd take a few generations to get back on track, but by your logic I should force people to breed at a much higher rate because the country can theoretically support it for greater "actions".

>More infinite magic cuckshit. Not even responding after this.
The Candle of Invocation exists, although I think the exploit itself is closed. In other words, in 3.5e at least (which uses the same moral system), it is literally mechanically possible to become more or less omnipotent.

>Yes, technological progress is good.
And by your logic, atomizing people, brain tubing them, or Big Brother is preferable to "freedom".

>>52635054
Skills:Animal handling, Athletics
Tools:Butcher's Tools

Equipment: Butcher's Tools, 20kg Bag of Curing Salt, 1kg Bag of Brown Sugar,

Feature: Able to turn (appropriate)creatures in to non perishable food for the party. The amount of food created is dependent on the size of the creature. 1d4 for tiny, 1d6 for small, 2d8 for medium, 2d10 for Large, and 3d12 for Huge.

>>52635017
What's so special snowflake about his concept that none of the official patrons will cover it?

/pol/ and /his/ (or /lit/ or whatever this is) fuck off.

I don't understand the Challenge rating and stat blocks of some of these monsters in the Volos guide.

a 17th level warlock, with only spells 1-5 and only 12 HD that is CR 7? What? What am I missing?

>>52635137
This.
If you aren't sure of any patrons but want to play Warlock then you choose Ancient One.
That way you never actually have to interact your patron, instead every "interaction" is a pure player character moment of weighing the benefits of accessing the knowledge of the ancient one against the possibility of going insane.

>>52635112
>>52635132
>>52635134
>>52635134
Yeah I kinda figured it was unreasonable but it's my first time DMing so I'm not really sure where the line. Thanks guys, I'll direct him to the UAs.

>>52635184
Are you saying he's too high or too low
Also CR is pretty infamously unreliable at times, see Bugbears and Shadows.

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>>52635063
Theatre of mind is the best choice for RL games, or pokemon style fights for the big ones.

Otherwise just use the maps from the trove for Roll20 or whatever

>>52635058
>Pyromancer from Plane Shift.
What? How did I not know about this?!

>>52635184
17th level warlock has Mystic Arcanum (9th Level) and an untold amount of fuckery with its passives.

>>52635184
If you're saying that his CR should be higher, you have to keep in mind that the CR is generally based on a party of 4-6 characters fighting one of those creatures.

>>52635203

Im not really commenting either way as I am pretty new to 5e, but I don't understand how he can be 17th level with only 12HD for one, I would assume he would have to be at least 17HD. And I can't fathom a D&D game where a 17th level spellcaster would be considered only a CR7 challenge.

>>52635184
NPCs aren't made like PCs. The CR is a reflection of its defensive measures averaged with its offensive output.

>>52634906
>why can't I craft a magic item in an hour?
5e is not for you.

>>52634325
>see downtime
>chuckle
>see rules for buying magic items
>rules for crafting magic items
>rules for brewing potions
>simple charts for earning money while the wizard is dicking around with crafting
Hm

>>52635239
This isn't 3.5e anymore, a level 20 Wizard is like, CR 10 or something.

>>52634458
So be safe, and sorry. Have nightmares for a while. Skip a couple of meals. Look into seeing if those people had a lord or family, or maybe look into your gods temple and subject yourself to their judgment, knowing full well that you'd do it again.

>>52635239
That NPC is a 17th level spellcaster, which affects nothing except its cantrip scaling. It is not a 17th level PC warlock.

>>52635119
Two-weapon fighting isn't great in general. It works for rogues because it increases your chance of sneak attack.
Ranger is one of the better options for it because hunters mark, and it's usable, but its never going to do the damage ranged or two-handed weapons can

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>that guy whose every character is a variant human with alert or observant

>>52634512
Where do I even fucking start?
>You can make armour with infinite AC as long as you have enough hitdice, and then just ask any healer who's great at outofcombat heals to heal you
>You can.. Make a weapon by hurting yourself? Okay? Why don't you already have the weapon?
>Something something DC 15 con save who the fuck puts static saves when you have a class saving throw?
>You can heal using dead enemies so hurting yourself for AC 25 armour no longer really matters
>There are certain things you can siphon off ad infintum, such as a pet troll
>Pain is power is incredibly vague
>At level 20, you no longer take damage from your blood magic (So why are you a blood mage?) and, uhh, you can just heal infinitely anyway I guess?
>You can sacrifice intellect for con? What a TERRIBLE tradeoff! EVERYBODY needs intellect, nobody needs con! Oh, fucking wait, that isn't a trade-off at all. You can get ADVANTAGE ON ALL INTELLECT SAVES! Look how many people give a fuck! NONE! Also, permanent advantage rather than conditional advantage is cancer. At least magic resistance is magic-only.
>Also giving magic resistance to a PC just like that.

And.. Well. I don't know.
It doesn't look too gamebreakingly bad if you remove the infinite AC armour and the healing from enemies and possible siphon-troll abuse sort of things.
But it's still bad.

All dand wiki shit is bad enough. Even wizards themselves struggle to make new, balanced classes sometimes in UA, yet alone amateurs.

>>52635382
Literally me. Is Alert one of the best feats or something? I picked it because +5 initiative and immunity to surprise rounds sounded really useful!

>>52635446
fag

>>52635382
tfw playing that right now but only because alert fit my character

>>52634512
Show him Matthew Mercer's Blood Hunter class and see if he likes it.
http://geekandsundry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Blood-Hunter-Class-1.3.pdf

>Don't like any of the races that give me a charisma bonus
What race do I make my bard?

>>52635511
>>52635382

>>52635511
One you like?

>>52635511
Well, what races do you like?

>>52635511
Human. Take a Charisma boosting feat.

>>52635217
It's a very small siderbar, not even a full entry

>>52635477
Mystic seems functional. Artificer looks great if they fixed a certain few problems.

Really, I find UA to be much more servicable than any homebrew I've seen. The most decent thing I've probably seen is pugilist, and pugilist really isn't very interesting and doesn't bring much to the table other than allowing people to play some sort of strength monk / unarmed barbarian.

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>>52634325
>magic item crafting and buying rules

>>52635651
What do you think is so overpowered about it?

>>52635651
>Thief rogue
For the most part, AT already obsoleted thief rogue considering they have stealth aids, a hand that can use things as a bonus action and all those other goodies.
One of artificer's problems if that it gives automatic expertise to thieves' tools which shouldn't be a thing. Really, thief rogue could be made as an archetype of artificer, because it suffers from various problems such as being rather DM dependent to get good use of the bonus actions.

To be honest I don't know mystic very thoroughly, though, people seem to have gone from 'it's underpowered' to 'it's overpowered' to 'it's okay, just remove a certain overpowered feature or two'.

Also both mystic and artificer are interesting class ideas that aren't something like 'It's barbarian, but different' or 'it's wizard, but you hurt yourself'.

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I'm DMing a campaign and I need a BBEG. I already have introduced him as a character (more or less), but I don't have stats for him. He's an orcish warchief who's supposed to be both a great warrior and a brilliant strategist (he will therefore need high INT or high WIS, preferably both. High CHA would be nice too). I also want him to have some techniques, skills or spells that allow him to take down multiple low level warriors at once. I can fudge stats, but what class/build would best fist this concept? I have no real preferences as long as it combines strong melee prowess with AoE attacks. Oh, and because this is the first time he's introduced he should be unbeatable (for now) so it doesn't really matter if certain skills that fit the character don't come into effect until higher levels, he can be level 10+.

>>52634875
Intelligence drain is a probably. It's probably saying you can't sleep off a feeblemind.

How is revised BeastMaster5/RogueX?

The beast scales mostly with your proficiency bonus and you can only attack once per turn anyway, making sneak attack a good choice.
What rogue subclass would be good?

>>52635861
Good for you.

>>52635707
Thief at least has better action economy and resource economy than AT. AT has higher peaks though, agreed.

>>52635651
I guess artificer obsoletes Beast ranger if you ignore that the ranger's pet scales up and the artificer's does not.

>>52635906
The companion is going to be a glass cannon if you have too many non-ranger levels. How far are you thinking of going into rogue?

>>52634298
Consult DMsGuild for homebrew stuff its a little better researched and balanced. Try these classes out instead.

http://www.dmsguild.com/product/170966/Blood-Magic-5e

http://www.dmsguild.com/product/170777/Blood-Hunter-Class?term=Blood+hu&test_epoch=0

>>52635861
Paladin, maybe?

why is blackrazor so op and just pile on anime abilities to it? who the fuck designed this and thought it was ok?

>>52635861

Have high Wis and above average Cha (or the other way around) and shit intelligence. Like all wise leaders, he delegates chores to those better suited

Has anyone played with a Kenku PC yet? How've they worked out? One of my players wants to use one.

>>52635995
>Why is a legendary artifact so powerful
Great question.

>>52635861
Take a warlord statblock and add superiority dice with some appropriate maneuvers.

>>52635861
If you're fine with using Unearthed Arcana, the Oath of Conquest Paladin might suit your needs.

>>52632325
make an orc and set the 3 in int so you get 1 int and can't comprehend languages

>>52634860
It isn't as if Mephistopheles was giving Faust a Wish anytime he wanted something. When he asked for money Mephistopheles had to actually go and look for buried treasure whose location he knew beforehand. Restoring his youth involved taking him to a witch who knew how. It was more like a traditional genie than Mephistopheles just magicking everything into existence.

How do you make your players care about your story? I'm new to DMing and would like to know how you approach plot points and engage your player with the world without railroading them.

>>52636045
But I imagine that's really only because of the nature of Faust himself. Mephistopheles isn't a demon of power, he's a demon of knowledge, more or less. He showed up when Faust tried to solve a problem but didn't know how.
And anyway, reducing the Warlock to a walking quest dispenser sounds drab.

>>52636051
That's a great question, the answer to which is "depends greatly on what your players like, and how good of a storyteller are you".

Is there a pastebin with the text for the unearthed arcana combined homebrewery data?

Should there be?

>>52636078
let's talk about players that clearly seem to have an issue with accepting failure. How do you make the session enjoyable for someone like that without literally throwing any difficulty out of the window.

>>52636051
This depends somewhat on the type of story you're going for. The big four archetypes of stories, none of which are exclusive, are:
1. Sandbox
2. Epic
3. Character-Driven
4. Event-Driven
To pull off the third, you need to write engaging characters, to make your players care about the characters and thus care about the campaign.
To pull off the second, you need to write an engaging setting, so your characters actually want to be heroes.
To pull off the first, you need both, but not necessarily an engaging plotline (although "background plot" always helps). To pull off the fourth, you need an engaging plot.
Obviously you want all of them if you can but play to your strengths.

>>52636051
Same way you'd go about getting your readers interested in a fantasy novel, sort of. Hint at information to come, and then establish an environment where whatever that information reveals has interesting effects.

Rolled 11 (1d20)

>>52636164
ridicule

if that's all it takes then why haven't you written a multibillion dollar selling fantasy novel yet

>>52635955
>The companion is going to be a glass cannon
How so? Only the saving throws would suffer, and these are high level feats

>>52635995
Stormbringer is bonkers, too. "Legendary Artifact" isn't a label that should be thrown around lightly.
5e's Blackrazor isn't even the sword's best itineration, but I agree it's sort of dumb how the temp HP feature siphons 100% of a slain creature's lifeforce.

>>52635928
AT has cantrips for at-will. Mage hand can do things as a bonus action, pretty much surpassing the bonus-action-to-interact when the mage hand can already do that at a distance. The AT then has booming blade and green flame blade, which means they'll actually be dealing more damage, too, if you can balance it right since you can't two-weapon-fighting with it. Then, spells such as mage armour can last an entire day.

>>52636190
Because general advice on this sort of shit is like general advice on being a good student, a certain level of talent and raw work is involved.

>>52636199
Its HP will be low. It only gains HD on ranger levels.

>>52636107
Tell them to man the fuck up.

>>52636238
if talent and work was any indicator on the success of fantasy novels then jk rowling and george rr martin would have died pennyless a long time ago.

>There are people in this thread
>Right now
>Who assume the gender of a character before the DM tells you their pronouns

>>52636190
GRRM single-handedly sunk the fantasy market, for one. Two, I'm not particularly great at doing it, but that's the basic idea for fantasy storytelling.

>>52636267
They do have talent though. Just because they didn't write "classics" which in any case are hard to nail down until decades have passed doesn't mean they don't have literary talent - the talent of attracting crowds.

>>52636279

Are you telling me Harry Potter isn't a timeless classic, and that it's simply the brainless guilty pleasure of a single generation that desperately insists the series was a classic?

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Does anyone have that Ultimate Wild Magic table with like 100,000 options?

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>>52636279
SUNSET FOUND HER SQUATTING IN THE GRASS, GROANING. EVERY STOOL WAS LOOSER THAN THE ONE BEFORE, AND SMELLED FOULER. BY THE TIME THE MOON CAME UP SHE WAS SHITTING BROWN WATER. THE MORE SHE DRANK, THE MORE SHE SHAT, BUT THE MORE SHE SHAT, THE THIRSTIER SHE GREW, AND HER THIRST SENT HER CRAWLING TO THE STREAM TO SUCK UP MORE WATER.

>>52636275
Not me.
Everything is "it" to those who carry the blood of the fey.

>>52636339
Fuck off, that chapter was pure kino

>>52636228
Casting Mage Hand is an action. It only lasts for 1 minute. Hope you're precognitive. Maybe your character is autistic and cannot function without casting Mage Hand every waking minute. Then you're going to be slower because you're using your bonus action constantly to move the hand around to keep up with you instead of dashing.

No one playing a thief (or any other non-AT non-swashbuckler) optimally is going to go into melee range, so Booming Blade and Green-Flame Blade aren't advantages. The smart thief uses a ranged weapon, keeping himself out of trouble and opening up the possibility of Crossbow Expert and/or Sharpshooter. Snipers have an easier time granting themselves advantage for Sneak Attack.

AT has advantages, but don't pretend they have no downsides and outshine every other archetype at all times.

>>52636329
yes. http://www.traykon.com/pdf/The_Net_Libram_of_Random_Magical_Effects.pdf

>>52636275
Did you just assume I'm Good aligned?

>>52636339

You're a big Khaleesi.

>>52636347
He found a line and pulled on it, fighting toward the hatch to get himself below out of the storm, but a gust of wind knocked his feet from under him and a second slammed him into the rail and there he clung. Rain lashed at his face, blinding him. His mouth was full of blood again. The ship groaned and growled beneath him like a constipated fat man straining to shit.

>>52636020
>the Oath of Conquest Paladin
Oh, I like the sound of that. Thanks.

>>52636397
Nothing wrong with that.

>>52636408
"The three men were erect. The sight of their arousal was arousing"

>>52636339
I'm not defending his writing quality, but then again things like Moby-Dick lay buried for 50+ years and the author died penniless - hardly a success story.

>>52636327
Thing about classics is how they're measured. Remembrance is important, but being consistently popular isn't. Generally it's either because it's "the best of the best", stuff people still remember after a hundred years, or because it had an immense impact on culture (something like, say, Kant is definitely qualified although most plebs have probably never heard of the Critique of Pure Reason). I don't think Harry Botter is qualified, although I feel like it's kind of unique - is there any other books about a literal magic high school? I don't read much stuff like it so I wouldn't know if it were a thing.

>>52636349
And in that case the AT can also potentially use a hand crossbow. Sharpshooter really isn't necessary, though I suppose it's not a bad pick after you have 20 dexterity.

So, then, the AT can pick mage hand + some useful cantrips like shape earth / water, or whatever those elemental cantrips are. They can use long-lasting spells like mage hand and find familiar (Of course, they might not be able to take both of those spells at lower levels).

At level 3, all the thief has over them then is that they have a better climbing speed (Usually not very important, though an AT can take spider climb later) and being able to interact as a bonus. It's pretty easy to know when to expect combat and have a mage hand ready for combat, actually. You don't have to keep the mage hand there 24/7, just for the very short time every day you're in dangerous situations.
Then, the AT can also use the other cantrips, whatever they are for their utility. Acid splash could be used to melt through problem locks or items, mould earth could shape the landscape in preparation for a battle...

The thief needs a buff. Their key features come too late. Advantage on stealth is pretty okay and the extra turn is absolutely brilliant, but it's all too little too late. Use magic item is pretty DM-dependent, too.

>>52636397
You get the feeling that George is regularly afflicted by bouts of diarrhoea and terminal constipation.

>>52636242
Oh shit, I thought it scales with your general level.

Would BeastMaster5/Rogue3 still be viable if I put the remaining level into the ranger then?

>>52636423
Okay, that was pretty bad.

>>52633786
Cantrip. 2d4, bounces do 1d4 and it keeps bouncing if you roll the same number as the original 2d4 got.

Fire, ice, lightning and poison for the damages.

Let me see if I understand, warlocks cast all spells up to fifth level as if they were using a 5th level slot, and for anything beyond that they need to use their Mystic Arcanum feature? I got stuck playing the warlock and it's my first time playing a caster

>>52635472
It's great for if you want to play a character who is more strong than dextrous, but who moves fast and takes the initiative.

>>52636456
Sharpshooter is for the range and cover-ignoring benefit, not the damage when a rogue takes it. Why in the world would you get up close to sneak attack when you could do it from 120 ft. with a hand crossbow or 600 ft. if you're proficient with a longbow?

I suppose you can tell combat is coming because you never get ambushed. Furthermore, there's never anything pressing you for time like the villain about to kill someone that absolutely will die if you take a turn to pre-cast before combat instead of running into stop the fucker from plunging the knife, sucking out the brain, lighting the fire, etc.

AT sacrifices action economy for versatility.

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Rolled 17 (1d20)

Intimidation

MAKE A NEW THREAD OR THIS CUTE GRLL KILLS HERSELF

>>52636468
Probably, but at that point, what are you getting from rogue? There's a lot of overlap between the mid to high level features of ranger and the lower level features of rogue.

>>52636557
That looks like a very tired, pale 13 year old boy with blue hair

>>52636501
For Warlock, all of your spells slots are the same level, so once you reach level 9, every spell you cast is cast at 5th level.

Beyond that, Mystic Arcanum allows you to cast a single spell of higher levels as appropriate, without using a spell slot.

>>52636557
Your standards are pretty low.

Rolled 12 (1d20)

>>52636557
Rolling to save

>>52636501
Mystic Arcanum is just a 1/day use of each of the 6th level or higher spells you choose. They're totally divorced from the pact magic mechanics.

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>>52636557
I cast calm emotions. And ask you kindly to stop playing the gunslinger and try something less intimidating like a monk...

Rolled 6 (1d20)

>>52636557
rolling to stick it in her pooper

Rolled 13 (1d20)

>>52636601
I cast dick on your mom

>>52636613
>her

Rolled 1 (1d20)

>>52636613
>her

you activated my trap card

>>52636572
>>52636586
Thanks, that clears it up

Rolled 9 (1d20)

>>52636624
rolling a perception check to see if I detect a bulge

>>52636624

She identifies as a woman, anon. Why are you being an asshole that doesn't use the pronouns she wants to be identified with?

>>52636641
NAT ONE

>>52636563
I want to get expertise for stealth and sneak attack would improve my damage.
I want to play a stealth heavy BeastMaster, so maybe I just go 1 level in Rogue and use Pass without Trace for me and my pet (and the party)

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Rolled 6 (1d20)

>>52636663
>she

>>52636648
DC is roll related.

Lot of quality going on in this thread, huh?

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>>52636705
>no fun allowed

Rolled 11 (1d20)

>>52636705
fag

>>52636705
We're just roleplaying Downtime, you scrub.

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Rolled 6 (1d20)

>>52636705
>roll to bridging german suplex he confused anon

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Rolled 13 (1d20)

>>52636705
Rolling to seduce anon

>>52636731
I... I don't fight back...

>>52636705
Could still use some help with >>52633186

>>52636731
My save DC is higher than that.

>>52636705

I migrated from PFG and am just trying to get comfortable.

>>52636743
what's your save dc anon? what class/level are you?

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>>52636743
But the Holopsicon is omnipotent. I cast Power Word: Seduce.

>>52636542
>Why would you get up close
Because prone, paralyzed enemies, etc. You may want to have the freedom to move within 5ft of them to do that. Advantage against prone enemies and autocrits against paralyzed enemies. Can't take advantage of those if you're at 120ft, in fact you'll have disadvantage against prone targets.
Also grappling and the like. Rogues can get expertise in athletics or maybe something else, and they might want to do something that requires getting close. Getting close to interact with something, an enemy, or whatever. Though I guess an AT doesn't need to be close because mage hand.

You're already fast, so you can easily hang around 30ft to 60ft range without any worries. Any further than that and your DM might need a bigger map sometimes just so you can stand 120ft away all the time when usually at that distance it really doesn't matter if you're at 60ft or 120ft since you could just run / disengage anyway.

Though the damage does have a use. If you sneak attack on your first hit, you can use the +10 damage on your second hit.

>Never get ambushed
You get ambushed sometimes, but it's not frequent enough to cause problems, and often ambushes happen in dungeons or places where you might be at least vaguely ready anyway. Also rogues can get expertise in perception.

>Never anything pressing you for time like the villain about to kill someone
Cast it while the rest of the party is catching up with you??? You're not in combat 24/7, and you're

>>52636766
>>52636743
>>52636731
>Anon attempts to fight back, but his will is utterly crushed. Immediately, his panties are soaked with precum.
>What next?

Who is the cutest NPC new to 5e?

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need some help with a backstory on a mystic tiefling. got some skills that lets me teleport around so i can say nothin personal kid when i stab em, but honestly got any ideas on backstory? much appreciated.

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>>52636742
Have one be stolen from a player and used against the group

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>>52636742
I mean if you're going to suddenly spring giant fucking robots on people I'm not sure there's a way to smoothly introduce it.
Try having a quest where giant robots are involved something something lost civilization, and the final boss is a mecha but lead the players into discovering that they can summon giant mechas. The boss fight destroys the mechas or alternatively, if they do well, causes severe damage, making their repair an entire arc, by which point they're more appropriately levelled for it.

>>52636777
I don't do smut, sorry for leading you on. Let's destroy the gods of pleasure.

>>52636811
Why don't you think of something based on your actual background choice?