Grand Duchy of Lithuania as a fantasy setting

>this triggers the russian

>>52608550
You know what triggers the Russian? When people assume the most ridiculous things would trigger the Russian.

>>52608512
Helsinki didn't even exist at this point. Pretty crazy.

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>>52608512
Incidentally, I have the appropriate flag

>asshole pagans vs asshole crusaders
>pagan religion surviving despite Christian screeching

>>52608832
It's funny that in the end, GDL converted because of a dynastic marriage and not because of the crusader screeching. Baltic crusaders were such a joke.

>>52608935
Caused Prussia to happen

>>52608983
The Kingdom of Prussia = Brandenburg.
The actual Prussia was also a joke, it was necessary only for the rulers of Brandenburg to claim royal status.

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>>52608512
>ywn get to preserve the gods of your fathers

>>52608935
Wonder what would happen if the Pope managed to whip up a Middle Eastern-style fury at Lithuania.

>>52608697
>t. triggered Russian

>>52609319
He would be poisoned for his derangement before he could make more retarded decisions.

>>52609911
Weren't there actual Pagan reprisals and brutality toward Christians, though, instead of "BROWN PPL R SCARY"?

>>52608512
That map would make for an awesome hexcrawl... -->>>52588687

>>52610289
In Pagan Lithuania? Like every other week. Good part of Polish nobles, clergy and general population was really fucking angry that there was an Union with those barbarians but Jadwiga was influecal as fuck and nothing buys loyality to new King as easy as new privilege.
Even after union Vitold and Vladislav had to deal with constant rides on Poland so that Union don't disolve over it.

>>52608512
If it's fantasy, we can afford some anachronism and keep vikings on the north, I suppose

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>>52608512
>Asshole crusaders
You fucking what, heathen?

>>52608935
The biggest joke is how the "crusaders", despite basically losing every singe battle and skirmish, always getting beaten and in retreat in their few castles, still took control over that land, and locals simply shrugged. I will never understand how this shit happend.

>>52614719
Those "rides" by Władysław actually proved baller, because he not only established order in the country, but made sure everything runs as smooth as possible in late medieval kingdom.
So nobody really mind those

>>52608512
>polish
>Russian

aren't they all the same?

>>52615613
>Lithuania accepts christianity from Poland
>Teuton jerks keep screeching about pagans coz moving to Palestine would be too expensive and would probably result in order ending
>Extorting citizens of Order's land like fucking cattle

>>52615837
You probably just triggered 99.9% of Poland.
To answer with lower amount of memery,
>Polish are west slavs and are catholic
>Russian are east slavs and are orthodox

>>52615705
Primitive peasants with no martial culture to speak of.

>>52615837
Catholicism vs Orthodoxy was a huge deal back then

>>52615837
>Catholic West Slavs
>Orthodox East Slavs
It's like asking if Spaniards and Romanians are the same, because their language has common root.

>>52616039
>No martial culture to speak of
>Beat the living shit of the guys trying to "invade" them each and every time
>Said guys having the broad idea of "CHAAAAAAAARGE! DEUS VUUUUUUULT!" as their entire culture

Also
>back then
>Implying it's not a massive culture divide today

>>52614719
>Vitold
This triggers the lithuanian

>>52616202
>Beat the living shit of the guys trying to "invade" them each and every time
Uhm, who are you talking about? Surely not the Prussian clans

>>52615952
>Sword brothers of Livonia* keep screeching pagans

Fixed it there for you kiddo ;)

>>52615952
Y'all just mad that your pure slavic genes were kraut'd

>>52616225
The only correct spelling is Vitaŭt

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>he doesn't "create" his setting by simply photocopying a facsimile of the local 17th century folklore compendium
I love being an euro sometimes

>>52616236
Weren't Livonians fed to the fish of Chud lake by that time?

>>52616324
The hard work is gamifying and making mechanical sense of real-world settings.

>>52608512
What a wonderfully inaccurate map. Trying to find your bearings with this should be a real adventure.

>>52616425
It's been made in like 16th century, of course it's inaccurate

>>52616988
You'd think someone would bother to bring a compass, though.

But who would be orcs - ruskies or tatars?

>>52618070
Poles, naturally.

>>52616232
>Baltic crusade
>Prussia
Literally pick one.

>>52616348
>Implying there is any work at all
Let me guess - you are not using GURPS, Savage or any other generic system?

>>52617016
It was made with compass, astrolabe quadrant and pretty much nothing else, so go fucking figure.

>>52616324
Valvasor's ramblings could actually make for some decent campaign material desu

Do christians get magic or is it a pagan privilege?

>>52622339
>implying the crusaders were faithful christians
>implying they weren't ready to jump on any pretext to rape and pillage

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>>52622359
Never implied that ironclad pigs were any of that.

>>52622359

Most historians now accept that faith was a significant motivator for most crusaders, and part of the understanding of a holy war was that the penance would only be counted if crusading was undertaken with good intentions. Read Christopher Tyerman's God's War or anything by Jonathan Riley-Smith.

>>52622542
True, but teutons became rotten to the core by the end of their existence