These children managed to defeat Lolth. Stat them.

quota/10

>>52590471
Oh please. Lloth was under contractual GM obligation to job that as hard as she could. The payout was worth it.

>>52590538
True.

>>52590538

Of races? All i see is 5 white guys, and to girls, one of which is black.

>>52590471
The real question is, what singular prestige class would you assign to each of them in preparation for a finale that never came?

>>52590560
Doesn't matter, and they keep beating the guy who fights Tiamat pretty much daily and only needs their enchanted crap to defeat her.

>>52590570
>white race guys
>white race girl
>black race girl
>midget race guy
>dork race guy

>>52590570
eric is a goddamn spic i tells ya

>>52590560
appreciate the wrestling carny talk

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>>52590471
>CHA 17-18
>Weakness to Hypnosis and Body-Switching.

>>52590804
what did he mean by this

>>52590830
Probably meant that the DM and the white dude switched bodies with the girls to gain their high charisma score and use it in their minmax build.

The wizard is probably not a real wizard because eh doesn't run out of spells.

>>52590538
>>52590570
I remember the days when you could have a black character because you wanted one, not because editorial mandate forced you to tick off another box.

If this was made by, say, modern day Marvel, then we'd have a white male homosexual lead, a gay latino, a sassy black chick, a man hating feminist asian chick and a 9 year old "transgirl".

>>52590471

With enough DM fiat, anything is possible. They're still a bunch of level 0-2s for the majority of their adventure, but I think one of the later books actually gives them endgame stats.

>>52590471
There was a source book, they already have been.

>>52590471

They were stated, by Wizards, for a special anniversary of of the series being out on DVD or something...

They were stupidly overpowered, especially Presto and his hat.

>>52591103
>>52591009
Will 5e mega have it by chance?

>>52590471

red head bangin'

would roll for seduce nowimsayin

>>52591103

>Presto
>Human Male Wizard
>7th
>AL: NG
>S: 11
>D: 9
>C: 16
>I: 20
>W: 15
>Ch: 13
>HP: 40
>Feats: Combat Casting, Empower Spell, Lightning Reflexes, Magical Aptitude, Scribe Scroll, Spell Focus (Evocation)

>Equip: dagger, Hat of Many Spells (acts as a rod of wonder, Presto can reach into the hat and produce any spell component up to 1000 gp for any spell he casts (component lasts 1 round), use the hat to Empower a spell he is casting or cast a spell directly from his spellbook but these effects can be unpredictable - roll percentile dice: on 1 - 35 the spell is wasted but a rod of wonder effect occurs, 36 - 65 the spell takes effect but a rod of wonder effect occurs as well, 66 - 100 the spell takes effect as desired.), Amulet of Natural Armor +1, cloak of resistance +2, headband of intellect +2, ring of protection +1, spellbook, potion of aid, potion of cure serious wounds, potion of displacement, wand of magic missile (7th), some normal gear

Yes, yes he was.

>>52590471
Ranger
Barbarian
Magician
Thief
Cavalier
And Acrobat

>>52591187

DUNGEON MASTER!

>>52591181
>Intelligence 20

Are you kidding me?!

>>52591173
Go ahead, roll away.

eight muses.com/comix/album/jab-comics/dayounguns--dragon/issue-1

Rolled 4 (1d20)

>>52591261

>>52591292

fug
still better than my real life seduce rolls

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>>52591292

Well, at least it's not a natural 1, right?

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>>52591292
>swing and a miss

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>>52591310
>>52591415

G...gotta at least try, right?
J...just be yourself anon.

>>52591103
>They were stupidly overpowered

I'm not surprised. They managed to survive in dungeons and dragons with a wizard that couldn't prepare spells using mostly non-lethal tactics.

>/tg/
>I don't even need the other boards anymore!

Didn't they already get officially stat'd back in 3.5? I remember there actually being a handbook published for the animated series.

>>52592086
>Didn't they already get officially stat'd back in 3.5?
Son, they've been statted since AD&D. Fuck it, they've released new classes just to cover for them.

Their stats aren't even optimalised

>>52592135
I thought all of their classes WERE in AD&D (or at least in the 1E era Dragon suppliments)?

>>52592160
Nope, Acrobat and Cavalier were added specifically for them.

>>52592236
Huh. When the cartoon come out?

The September 1982 issue of Dragon talked about Cavaliers as a sub-class of Fighter to use in campaigns with social classes and Acrobat as a specialization of Thief, which then got fleshed out in April and January of the next year, respectively.

>>52592454
Not him, but the production started roughtly the same time and the animation was a tie-in (duh)

>>52592638
Makes sense. I thought he was saying that those classes were unique ONLY to the show and were never officially in the game until well after it aired.

>>52590471
>>52590570
BLEACHED

>>52590471
pack (3-8)

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>>52591728
>>52591747
And /tg/ corrupts another part of my childhood.

>>52590570
So?
What do you have against black women dating white guys?

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>>52590958
You know grogs back then were mad that she was even in there because "blacks have no place in D&D" right? They would have considered her as much of an "editorial mandate" as what you're describing.

People being mad about casts not being all white is older than the whole "SJW ruined muh" crusade.

>>52593932
The trope of "no black in medieval fantasy" is averted because they're modern kids send to Mystara.

Keeping on the subject, anyone ever tried to pinpoint the cartoon places in Mystara or Blackmoor?

>>52593932
The biggest irony is that if the show would be remade today, she would be black solely because the original version was black, while the original version was black solely to tick the box of having at least one non-white character in main cast. But then nobody was throwing a tantrum about such practices (at least in general), as they were treated as part of the marketing and nothing else.

And grogs back then were chill about her, since grogs in early 80s were in their mid-30s and had better stuff to do than watching crappy morning cartoon. It was edgy nerdy kids being triggered by having two females and a kid, which "ruins the party forever".
So I guess not much changed in the hobby in general.

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>>52592878
What about this then

I wish I've saved a higher res of it, when it was still accessable.

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>>52594506
>>52591747

>>52590958
The sad thing is that this is what Marvel today actually fucking does. The Sellout and Virtue Signalling with them is so fucking intense, that it's actually killing their business. They literally had to fucking fire their head of marketing because she was destroying the company by alienating their true consumer base.

>>52590471
>>52591747
how does this nigger have human hair? magic?

>>52594937
>human hair?
Because she is Homo sapiens, and because not all types of black people have the same phenotypic alleles for nappy afro hair, some do indeed have straight or wavy black hair depending on the specific ethnicity.

You just rarely see it in the US because the Black American population is horrendously crossbreed and mixed due to the slavery and the following cross-tribal miscegenation, that they are barely genetically similar to their forebears and ancestors that sold them in.

Also
>>>/pol/

>>52590471
>>52591747
how does this nigger have human hair? magic? do they have weaves there?

>>52595115
>reposting like a total fag
Again, the answer is here>>52595090
Now, are you gonna fuck off you faggot, or are you going to make another repost?

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>>52590471
It's a fun series, but to be fair you could take Lolth out with a shoe. Okay, it might need to be a bigger shoe than for most spiders but still...

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>>52595646

>>52590471
Daily reminder this series was cancelled due to insufficient viewer shares.
Daily reminder literally nobody wanted to watch the broadcast of the final three episodes.
Daily reminder it aged like milk.

>>52595696
>The level of violence was controversial for American children's television at the time, and the script of one episode, "The Dragon's Graveyard", was almost shelved because the characters contemplated killing their nemesis, Venger.[5] In 1985, the National Coalition on Television Violence demanded that the FTC run a warning during each broadcast stating that Dungeons & Dragons had been linked to real-life violent deaths.[6] The series spawned more than 100 different licenses,[7] and the show led its time slot for two years.[1][7]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeons_%26_Dragons_(TV_series)#Controversy

Despite the controversies, and the interference of parent's groups, the series did just fine in its time slot.

>>52595696
>citation nee-
>>52595756
Hot damn.

>>52595756
>Le it was all the 80s D&D witchhunt
No anon. The series simply failed to gain audience. No conspiracy involved.

>>52590471
ACROBAT

>>52590471
>>52591747
>>52594506
The acrobacies she would do in my pole surely would make it grow like magic!

>>52595808
You could at least read what was posted before flipping your shit and still not providing proof to your own assertions.

>>52595874
You must have enjoyed that episode where she had a canonical nipslip.

>>52595887
https://web.archive.org/web/20110720142931/http://www.michaelreaves.com/index.htm

Go fucking read yourself, it was a page by one of the show creators.
They had to deal with small budget, they had to deal with watchdogs, they had to deal with D&D witch-hunt.. but the real killer was not enough viewers to justify even making the final fucking episode.

Reminder, that for all his complaining, Eric was always, ALWAYS right and the party always did the opposite of what he said they should do

>>52596183
>no conspiracy involved
>b-but okay, they did have to deal with watchdogs and the D&D witch hunt

Wow, you are some kind of champ, chump.

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>>52596248
>Seriously being this retarded
The show was killed by lack of viewers. They've easily managed to survive watchdogs, but didn't survive lack of people watching the show.

Your reading comprehension is so fucking lacking I wonder why are you using a fucking text board in the first place.

>>52596183
Anon, this isn't hard to follow. See: >>52595756

The show did fine for two years, yet had three seasons. It wasn't failure to find an audience, it was a decline in the audience. There is a significant difference. Also you should educate yourself on the true history behind "Requiem". It was not an unproduced episode, it was one writer, Michael Reaves, attempt to finish the series how he'd have intended but the episode never went through any workshopping or editorial approval.

http://www.newsfromme.com/iaq/iaq14/

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Lolth only had 66hp.

>>52596291
It would help if you knew what you were fucking talking about and your points weren't either flat out wrong or misleading and then topped off with your own shitty opinion. You have nobody to blame but yourself for sabotaging your own "point".

>>52596215
This is a fun read on the background of Eric's creation. At the end of the day he's the only one in the group who had the sense to just call the cops on Venger that one time they finally made it home for real. Shame about not having change for the phonebooth.

>>52596380
http://www.newsfromme.com/pov/col145-2/

>>52596312
How much damage does a rolled up newspaper do?

>>52590804
That looks suspiciously like lewds.
The kind of lewds I would greatly appreciate.

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>>52596423
Mmmmm....rolled up newspaper!

C'mere and let me show you what we, I mean THEY do in the Abyss with a rolled-up newspaper!

By the way, I am totally NOT a demon goddess, and only want to help you.

You can leave the unicorn.

>>52593932
I grew up in the 80's and I guarantee you, nobody cared. Racism or "racism" or "noticing other people's racism" has done nothing but gone UP in the past decades.

We also watched Fat Albert.

>>52596995
We all know how this ends. Eric thinks she's legit, the others thing he's insane, he ignores then and moves forward - only to step on the sitting Uni's tail causing the Unicorn to bray and leap forward. Lolth shrieks and turns around...and catches a unicorn horn where only a demonic proctologist will be able to remove it.

>>52590471
If it helps these kids were using ridiculously powerful weaponry that frankly were way above their levels.

>>52595665
>>52595646
Would you ride a coaster named "Dungeons & Dragons"

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I know some of you animals fapped to this.
I know I did.

>>52590804
... I would like a source, please. Or at least a name of an artist.

>>52597276
Would I ride it? BITCH, I'd be throwing dice while riding that motherfucker and when physics shit causes me to swallow my dice and choke to death you better fucking believe during the autopsy the coroner finds the 1 face up!

Was this show actually set in Mystara?

>>52597679
It was The Realm of Dungeons and Dragons. They only say it every episode.

>>52590471
I met an animator/creator of this show. He does kayak tours in Maui.

>>52597528
8muses has it

>>52590471
Probably more interesting to stat the version of Lolth they were able to defeat

>>52597743

No need to be a bit more specific or anything there's only hundreds of comics in there.

>>52597790
jab comics dayounguns dragon

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>>52597869
aw yea thanks anon

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>>52597512

And for extra cheekiness, the ranger is winking..

>>52591181
He wore wizard clothes, cast wizard spells, but was hardly a wizard.

He could only cast spells via his hat. Without that, he was just a kid prone to losing his glasses and being generally useless.

>>52592691
Cavalier and Acrobat were classes in the first revisions of AD&D. Also, Bard was a class that required a character to first level as a generic class, then switch. This was all changed in the later revisions of AD&D. Bard became a class from level 1, and cavalier and acrobat were removed from the players handbook; to be included in separate specific class handbooks (paladin and thief, respectively).

>>52598287
90% of the time he was useless even with the hat, but then it was easily the most overpowered of the weapons if used properly.

>>52594299
The acrobat was one of the most competent members of the group. She was even useful without her assigned magic item.

>>52598327
It helps that she was a trained gymnast, and helped make up for the fact that her weapon has the least potential. It could grow and repair itself but that was it, however how she used it more than made up for that.

Eric's shield, while strictly speaking not a weapon, was pretty damn kickass in that it could stop seemingly any direct attack and had some usefulness when deflecting attacks, but being used by Eric meant it was rarely put to much good use.

>>52598311
He was a liability. Hank should have taken the hat from the stupid knob and have one less idiot to look after.

>>52598365
The hat wasn't assigned to him. Nobody (but Eric) would risk pissing off the DM.

>>52598384
They were very patient with the DM. Seems like he was using them as hired goons, and not really helping them go home. Did they ever wonder who brought them there in the first place? I can't remember.

>>52598365
You'd be better off wondering why they didn't raid the Dragon's Graveyard for some of those other weapons of power. Some of that shit was pretty baller.

>>52598412
They were setting right what went wrong across the realm and also learning life lessons and shit. DM kept telling them it wasn't the right time to go home, and the few times they nearly made it shit got fucked up.

The one time they were united in telling Dungeon Master to fuck off with his Yoda shit was the episode The Dragon's Graveyard where they came closest to putting Venger down. Eric was a lot more confrontational and once was even given Dungeon Master's powers but still fucked up getting them home.

>>52597020

Completely true. Racism has gotten much worse since, say, the 80s. Oddly enough, not really because of traditional racists.

>>52598494
>>52598412
It's hard to say but it seems like the show was building up to something, the kids were there because it was their destiny and Dungeon Master knew they could do what he couldn't regarding Venger and the evil permeating the realm, including Venger's shitty boss.

There's still two interesting tidbits in the series. One is that time moves much slower for Earth than it does for the kids, so barely any time will have passed if they get back. Also according to one story it was foretold by a psychic girl from Earth that the kids would return, regardless of what may have been written, and not produced, as an ending. Dungeon Master at least seemed to agree with the vision.

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>>52590471
No one can beat 80's spandex Lolthercise

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>>52596362
>I can't read
>HURRRR IT"S YOUR FAULT!

Cute

>>52598356
>but being used by Eric meant it was rarely put to much good use
I guess we were watching different show or it has been a lot of years since you've saw it last time. Because Eric was highly competent with that shit, especially starting from season 2.

If you want useless power, look at Sheila, who was simply disappearing in the thick of it. This shit was NEVER used in any other way than just let her hide in combat. She never fucking sneaked anywhere, while having a cloak of invisibility.

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>>52598356
>>52600055
You are both missing very important detail:
The show was fucked by moral watch-dogs ever since

Sheila was literally banned from being a thief, despite being Thief.
Presto was banned from pulling anything harmful or dangerous that couldn't be turned into a joke from his hat.
Bobby's mace went through rework, so it was turned into flashy, but utterly harmless seismic weapon.
And Hank was not allowed to use his bow as a direct weapon, unless the target hit with it was totally immune. Which also meant a rework, as he originally was armed with a bog-standard bow and it would be hard to go creative with it, rather than killing baddies.
Add to that Eric, who was rejected until he was turned into team complainer and you have the whole picture.

The only reason why Diana is so competent when compared with everyone else is moral watch-dogs simply ignoring her. And she was ignored, because she wasn't originally considered dangerous (no lethal or "amoral" toy), her entire "skillset" was her own, as she already came in with acrobatic training and... because she was a girl. It was early 80s, guys. Being a chick meant you were by default a secondary character, thus less focus on you, thus less action centering around you. Besides, she was filling the spot for ethnic minority that was mandatory for mornign cartoon back then (and you complain about SJW today... fucking pathetic), so it made her even less in focus for all sorts of guidance agencies and confederations.

The biggest shame is that this is the kind of show you seriously want to see rebooted, even if they would literally just make the same episodes once again to see that shit drawn well and without glarring plot issues caused by 18 minutes to tell the story...
... but it won't happen, as the rights for the show are spread over fucking 5 rivalling companies and none of them will allow the other 4 have it out of pure spite.

>>52597963
a link would be fine for those of us without that level of degeneracy yet

>>52600297
>even if they would literally just make the same episodes once again to see that shit drawn well and without glarring plot issues caused by 18 minutes to tell the story
He-Man was remade this way. And it was breddy good, all things considered. Especially when you consider the original was so bad it made a child me chuckle about how bad it was.

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>>52590958
Just be glad the show was made in 1982, instead of 1992. Then it would have had to have had a kid in a wheelchair.

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>>52591747

>>52600632
And if it was made currently, either Diana or Presto would be gay...

... and it would be still good show, so what's your problem?

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>>52600728
Dungeon Master could easily heal the wheelchair kid, but he doesn't and forces them to tote him around all those dangerous environments where the chair itself is a hazard.
That or he'd get a sweet-ass hover wheelchair like Professor X. But fantasy instead of sci-fi.

>>52600753
Or, which would create much more tension, he can walk again...
... but only as long as he stays in the Fantasyland

>>52600632
This shit looks radical.

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Okay you fa/tg/uys, here's a question:

How *should* it be redone?
I'm not asking for jokes, slurs, or sjw parodies.
/tg/ is remaking this show today.

What do we do differently?
What do we keep the same?
How close to the original do we keep to make it still the same show?
How do we keep it from being a crappy remake?
What are essential Dungeons and Dragons elements we need to include?
(Assume 5e if system dependent, it is new after all)

My first idea is to keep Eric almost the same. Just give him a humanizing, deeper characterization like the one Roger Klotz got on the later seasons of Doug.

>>52600910
Turn it into a monty hall with characters abusing the hell out of the system and DM trying to stop them and eventually having to boot them back into their world when they discover punpun.

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>>52594631
>google Marvel Comics
>first news article
>Marvel Comics May Have Slumping Sales, but Don’t Blame Its Diverse Heroes

Didn't bother to read, but that title reeks of denial.

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>>52600965
Well, an attempt was made.

>>52600910
Throwing some serious money on the animation. Jesus, they were barely scrapping movement in it.

First of all, episode lenght. Go watch just about ANY random episode of the show. It lasts roughtly 22 minutes, including opening and closing credits. That leaves about 20 minutes for the story. A FUCKLOAD of things get rushed, cut or not explained or dwelled upon, because they were cutting corners on everything, including runtime, so 90% of stories just run too fast.

Making it more arc-heavy. Extremely episodic nature leads to a situation where episodes are absolutely interchangable. And this is not a show like MacGyver or Dr House where you are for formula.

And not just make Eric more complex characters, but ALL OF THEM. Seriously, they were all one-dimensional cut-outs. In fact, Eric was the most complex and nuanced of all characters, since he had grand total of three traits: complaining, being a jerk that still stands for his friends when needed and having some serious daddy issues. Everyone else was having one trait and one can argue Diana had none at all.

Giving Sheila something to do. She was flat-out the worst of the entire lot, precisely because her entire role was playing mom for Bobby and nothing else.

>How do we keep it from being a crappy remake?
Not making it low-budget. Not using other drawing styles than realistic ones. Not turning the characters into quirky angsty teens (one of the strong points of the original was how "adult" the kids were, without any teenage drama).
And also - taking lessons from Avatar, which is by far the best modern animation to date.

>What are essential Dungeons and Dragons elements we need to include?
Ignore this aspect entirely, just make it in-name-only. I didn't even know there was such thing like D&D or tabletop games when I was watching the show as a kid, and I've still enjoyed every bit of it AND it made me much more "adjusted" for tabletops few years later.

>>52600965
>How to make the show even worse than it was in its weakest moments: The Post
Yes, because making an animated series for grogs is what will improve it... Just go back to Gamers and whatever other shit by grogs for grogs you are watching.

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>>52600982
>establish a fanbase over decades
>in the span of 3 years reboot every other hero with a Kang or other (((minority)))
>nobody buys the crap
>???
>OMG RACIST NERDS HATE BLACK PEOPLE

Also, yes, that's Excalibur.

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>>52600982
>>52601056
Literally nobody cares. At least fucking pretend you are not off-topic.

>>52601056
That's sickening. First time in my fucking life I've ever been triggered i think. anger

>>52601035
>Money
Fair enough.

>Episode Length
Well, hour long animated series are kinda rare.

>Making it more arc-heavy.
100% agree. Even Kids Next Door managed to work in arcs.

>Make all characters more complex
Couldn't agree more.

>Give Sheila something to do.
Okay. How do we rework her so that she always has something to do?

>Not using other drawing styles than realistic ones.
I can get behind this, depending on how it is meant.

>Not turning the characters into quirky angsty teens (one of the strong points of the original was how "adult" the kids were, without any teenage drama).
Excellent point and where a current reboot might go wrong.

>taking lessons from Avatar
Such as?

>Ignore D&D aspect entirely, just make it in-name-only
We need some references to keep it connected, but I loved the wild fantasy landscape of the original, so adhering to D&D closely is probably a mistake.

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>>52601157
>Length
I'm not talking hour long. But it DOES make a difference if you have 19 minutes for a story or 28, since that's 50% increase of time for the plot

>Okay. How do we rework her so that she always has something to do?
In the show she literally does nothing. It's not about giving her something, but she's a chick with cape of invisibility and she never uses it for anything else than hiding and running away

>I can get behind this, depending on how it is meant.
I mean to avoid shit like pic related

>Such as
Avatar from start to end had a clearly designed arc stories. Each arc for pre-planned, tightly-written, with proper character growth over time, shitload of character interactions and in the same time still having a fair amount of filler episodes that were FUN to watch, rather than "fuck it, it's a filler". Hell, the sole fact it had all that character development was alone the reason why it's the best shit around. It also managed to be both kids friendly and combat heavy AND not being shy from being a show for kids age 8-13 centering about imperialism, slavery and jingoism.
On the other hand, there is spin-off/continuation in form of Legend of Korra, which is also a great source of lessons... of the shit you should avoid, as it badly balanced all the important elements and made main characters simply unlikable assholes.

>>52601206

>ATLA
>Tightly written

It was aimless and plodding with heavy handed morals and 80% filler per season. Funny that you'd shit on Korra despite it actually having a grasp of pacing. Also, really nigga? Slavery, imperialism and jingoism are nothing new in kids animation. Fire Nation are 'Incompetent Evil Invaders #231'. War profiteering in Korra was the first I'd seen that topic crop up in children's animation. How anyone can complain about unlikeable characters and excuse Katara is beyond me. No one in Korra habitually berated their friends.

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>>52601251
>This level of denial
>This level of whitewashing Korra's countless issues

>>52601251
Not even him, but please confirm you are just baiting here

>>52601251
>Legend of Korra
>Grasp over anything at all
The only good thing about it was providing /aco/ material about brown butch lesbian bully

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>>52600910
I wouldn't redone it. I would remake it.

A group of today kids wander into an abandoned amusement park at night, since this shit is not as "hot" it was is the 80's. There, they find the D&D rollercoaster. The cocky one dares to use it, everyone agrees and BAM - Dungeons & Dragons Land. What they didn't expected is that the younger borther of one the girls was following them all along and went into the cart with them.

Dungeon Master receives them, usual opening, Venger, Tiamat.

PLOT TWIST: They're the original kid's children all along, Venger is the son of Kareena (Venger's sister) who want to be as bad as his uncle was, Kylo Ren style. Tiamat is the one who infers the kids are the children of the older ones. Most episodes could be subversions of the originals showing that kids these days deal differently with the same challenges. Uni is the new unicorn leader of the Valley of the Unicorns, for example.

>>52601626
The spoiler part is not possible, if we consider the final, unmade episode canon.

>>52601698
Weren't they dead all along?

>>52601698
The girl wro dreamed tomorrow had a vision of Bobby returning her locket to her. The canon ending is a cliffhanger, with Venger atoned and returned as a Paladin. There's still the Nameless One (Venger master) and some of the episodes doesn't have Venger as the root of all evil.

>>52601206
>length: long half hour
Okay, I can dig it.

>avoid shit like pic related
Okay, yeah.
No issues there.

>clearly designed arc stories. Each arc for pre-planned, tightly-written, with proper character growth over time, shitload of character interactions and in the same time still having a fair amount of filler episodes that were FUN to watch

As far as Sheila goes, I figure give each kid an arc...

>>52602250
Hank: I imagine him as an outdoors, camping teen, who can hunt with a bow. He doesn't become the leader just on personality and by dint of being the jock. Instead, he is the one showing them all how to survive, like a Ranger. His arc, aside from the obligatory romance with Sheila, is the oddest as he starts from a place of strength. As everyone else grows, he begins to buck as they stop flatly obeying him and he has a rough time learning that he doesn't have to protect them anymore, fights them, abandons them when they angrily tell him they no longer need a protector, and eventually returns with humility and learns to lead them as strong individuals they've become.

Sheila: Is the least adapted to the new life, even worse than Eric. She misses her comforts, is afraid of everything, and remains painfully shy, often hiding in her cloak. (I imagine lots of Cheshire Cat moments) As necessity draws her out of her fearful shyness, she gains confidence, using her cloak more and more actively. Until eventually, her bravery unlocks the True Potential of the cloak.

Presto: Clumsy computer nerd only confident with technology that won't work there, he remains solely comic relief until he grows confident of his abilities and starts to "hack" magic itself with his powerful hat.

Diana: Capable, capricious, and a bit of a loner, she learns to depend on the others and be depended upon and closes the distance between her and the others.

Eric: Often trying so hard to look good, be funny, and be the best that he ends up embarrassing himself. Struggling to match the ideal of his father, he is driven to succeed, but has no idea what that really means, so he seeks trappings of success, such as comfort and luxury. Until he learns to lower his defences and allow his truly compassionate nature to show itself as he protects party.

Bobby: Learns maturity and actually ages? No idea about Uni.

>>52602250
Also, it hit me only now:
Avoid trying to make D&D Avengers out of them at all costs. Because that's what some idiot could do with them, given it's a corporate property

>>52602257
Oh, and Venger is literally powergaming the world.
He is using every treasure or race, or resource he can find to maximize his strengths in true neckbeard fashion.

>>52601626
>A group of today kids wander into an abandoned amusement park at night, since this shit is not as "hot" it was is the 80's. There, they find the D&D rollercoaster. The cocky one dares to use it, everyone agrees and BAM - Dungeons & Dragons Land.
Kinda doesn't paint them as the noblebright heroes to break into an old amusement park and ride dangerous rides.
Perhaps Eric's dad bought the park and he's showing it off to them before his dad cannibalizes it?

>What they didn't expected is that the younger borther of one the girls was following them all along and went into the cart with them.
And nobody noticed? Is this a Speed Racer crossover now?
Maybe he followed, got caught, and bought the right to tag along with his silence?
Really nothing wrong with a younger sibling joining them from the start.

Spoiler: I'dpersonally prefer to shy away from a derivative continuation of the original, but that is a valid way to go.
The canonical fate of the last heroes of whatever, could be an ongoing mystery.

Also, I'd prefer a Dungeonmaster who is less manipulative or not clearly benign in his manipulation.
The kids should have a strong reason to trust him.

>>52602365
He also either needs a Dungeon (creepy) or a new name.

>>52602257
Not diverse enough. We need to get the Steven Universe writers on this.

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>>52595756

So that episode was controversial, yet Venger going back in time to help the Nazis win World War II wasn't?

>>52604285
Nope, because the Nazi turned tables on him, beat his ass and went back to WW2 Europe, where Americans secured him under Operation Paperclip, and he provided them details of laser-firing jet fighter.
Also, it's never said he's a Nazi and the swastika he wears on his armband is almost as hilarious as Hitler's mustache in Captain Planet.

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>>52604368

Well the pilot was from the Luftwaffe, but wasn't Venger's whole plan to make the Germans win so the kids were never born?

It's been a while since I've seen it.

>>52604418
You miss nothing special, the episode suffers greatly from what this >>52601035 anon pointed out - it's too fucking short. It all goes so quick you don't even fully get half of the details and it's already closing titles.

But the German being a good guy was a big twist for Venger. Even bigger twist was the fact the guy "betrayed" the kids eventually... but only to get into the futuristic plane, beat the living crap out of Venger, destroy his time crystal and safely return to his times.

This episode alone had a potential for a fucking two-parter, but the entire plot is given in 18 fucking minutes, 1/4th of it spend on single scene in the mountains.

>>52604483
Were there ANY two-parters at all? Seems like a missed opportunity.

>>52601035
Eric does grow a little, particularly in the episode where he becomes Dungeon Master. In the DVD commentary they mention how the plan was for him to mature as the show went along. It's nothing major, but you can see it.

>>52600632
>kid in a wheelchair
>an issue
what
the example you used looks fucking radicool, i'm not seeing it

>>52595665
Okay that's fucking disneyland

That's clearly the matterhorn on the far right, a combination of the teacups and astro-orbiters after that, and you can see the castle here>>52595646 along with tom sawyer island and the mark twain riverboat

>>52604594
I'm not saying Eric doesn't grow. My point is reverse - he's the only character with any dynamics at all. Hank has a SMALL bit of it, when he's branded traitor in one of the episodes and Eric steps in as the leader, so Hank has to sort his shit out.
But other than those two (and the Hank case is really marginal), everyone else is just stuck, with zero growth or even signs of intention for growth.

>>52595665
>>52604737
FUCK I JUST NOTICED THE SKYWAY GOING THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE MATTERHORN JUST LIKE 80'S DISNEYLAND

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>>52600297
http://www.newsfromme.com/pov/col145-2/

This treatment was typical for the 80s/90s. A popular example is the ninja turtle Michelangelo had his nunchucks replaced with grappling hook in part thanks to the UK where his original weapon was banned. Leonardo's katana and the sai used by Raphael? Apparently those were fine since they weren't household items but nunchucks can be, somehow, easily emulated. More so than Donny's bo staff? Well sure, if you're the UK.

Prohibition of firearms is of course far more apparent, often replaced with hilariously ineffectual lasers. The GI Joe cartoon is probably the most obvious one since it comes complete with the notorious "everybody bails out and parachutes to safety" gag. Guns even fired bullet casings! Who knows, maybe their guns ran on a ridiculous among of AA batteries. And you just cannot beat that color coded shots so you know who is a good guy and who is a bad guy.

>>52600034
It's okay, anon, we'll teach you to read that way you won't just be parroting memes. You'll be fine (once someone reads this message to you, anyway). Your nu-male pattern baldness, however, is beyond any of our powers to cure.

>>52604756
>>52604737
Why wouldn't Disneyland have a kickass Dungeons and Dragons ride? If it makes you feel any better Venger pretty much trashed the place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PotXLGcfh4c#t=935

Oddly enough we never saw Dungeon Master's wrinkled old girlfriend again.

>tfw the human kingdom in my campaign has a hall dedicated to the founders of the kingdom, which has a circle of statues of a ranger, cavalier, magician, acrobat, barbarian, and thief slaying a demon.

>>52601056
But Captain Britain is a title and the Captain Britain Corp is made of of an infinite number of people who receive the role of Captain Britain; not just the same guy.

>>52600797
Which would be cool, because he'd be the one kid on the team who'd side with Venger.

Hell, the reason why the main character of Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced is considered a villain by the people who played is because he wants to return everyone from the fantasy world of Ivalice even though his best friend is accepted by a warrior race because of her natural platinum white hair, the weak friend of his finally has his family back together, and his brother can actually walk and isn't sickly. In fact, the moment he finds out his brother is actually happy is when he wants to send everyone back because he always hated his brother.

>>52600055
You're definitely not remembering the show accurately. Eric's shield was perfect for him given hew as an abject coward, however he had a VERY zig-zagging level of competency throughout the series. While he did get a bit better later on about not being as much of a jerk, he still had plenty of moments.

Sheila, on the other hand, put her invisibility to work performing stealth attacks. A few episodes stand out. She once lured Tiamat into a trap in The Night of No Tomorrow, and used her cloak to perform a stealth infiltration in the episode The Lost Children, with the weird alien kids who wanted their spaceship back from Venger. If it makes you feel better she WAS captured by Venger forcing her friends to sneak in on their own. In the very same episode, however, Eric gets his shield with its super deflective powers knocked out of his hands by a damn orc with a mace.

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>>52605227
If memory serves this isn't an alternate universe deal. Faiza Hussain was a paramedic (or full doctor performing triage?) during the skrull attack in Secret Invasion (it's been awhile since I read it so I don't swear my memory is 100% accurate). She was wounded, had a magical vision, and whens he woke up she had the power to immobilize and "disassemble" people. She does obtain Excalibur after Captain Britain, who recently returned from the dead, left it embedded in a rock. Still Excalibur is more of a Thor's hammer deal, "Whomsoever yadda yaddas should they be worth, blah blah, shall have the power of, etc". It's magic and we all know the rules about magic, right?

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>>52605077
>Your nu-male pattern baldness, however, is beyond any of our powers to cure.

>>52605411
That's what I was getting at; ANYONE can be Captain Britain if they fulfill the specific requirement (choosing the Amulet of Right, Sword of Might, or Excalibur itself). It's sort of a "so long as your conviction is selfless and true, you become Captain Britain.

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>>52605077
>Answering to post 12 hours old post
>Missing the point this hard
>Using a condescending tone

>>52605177
>77
Cute homagem. Will steal it for my own homebrew setting Praise Kek

>>52606155
Hey now, that anon spent a long time on that reply! I figured he'd be happy at least one person bothered to reply. If not then you can just reply-hide and vanish the source of your curious buttharm.

>>52599984
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzm063mnKuY

Insidious...

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>>52606339
Imagine Lolth chasing you through the Underdark wearing these leg warmers followed by a swarm of driders all wearing the same.

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>>52606366

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>>52606784
Wow, Deviantart has everything!

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>>52606784
Baby's got abdomen

>>52599984
>TFW a few years ago, this would have my eyes rolling, but now it has my attention.

I'm becoming a dirty old man and I don't know whether to be upset over this.

>>52605177
I did the same thing in my setting, subtly basing the founding fathers of the kingdom of the party.
>tfw "Presto" is still living as an immortal archmage.

>>52607315
>be ten thousand years old
>still can't get his fucking hat to work

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>>52607385
"Tim tam tabica, summon Captain America!"

>>52607385
>Bald headed cunt gave him a defective hat.
>As a joke.

>>52607793
From what I recall his hat relies on force of will and concentration and unfortunately he's always panicking. Also most of the time his rhymes suck.

>>52590471
Lets see - 2 female gamers back when D%D was 98% male and if you keep them at your table you always have players. So god level rule binders. The little brother to one of the female players and the most likely reason she is playing. So god level rule binding. A player who want to play a spell caster! I a bad DM take can not handle magic so level one commoner with a random roll plot device hat. The poor guy that wanted to play a cleric but the DM hates magic and healing so level one polly. DM sure he kill off character first chance so have a shield that takes all damage. Also protects female players. Then the good looking guy. Wants to play ranger *in AD&D who did not want to play one). Bow that does stun only damage. Yes, I hate early D&D when I found better systems and love 3th ed/pathfinder with all my heart

>>52607888
Does he ave to rhyme to work it?

>>52593932

I have no idea what you're talking about; I never heard of anyone being upset that Diana was black. Nobody cared.

>>52590958
>>52590538
>>52594631

I want /pol/ to go.

>>52608305
Not always, but then it's a tad inconsistent. For instance in the Dragon's Graveyard episode he pulls a nebulous glob of undefined magic and hurls it at a skeletal mage exploding it. That isn't the best example because the Dragon's Graveyard was supercharging the weapons of power so they weren't behaving as normal, but it's the one example I had off the top of my head.

Typically he said a goofy rhyme and at least once I can think of he shouted to the effect of, "DO SOMETHING!" I suspect the hat is capricious by nature.

>>52606339
A curse on whoever decided to remove that style of bikini from fashion for it also removed it from sexy fantasy art.

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>>52608548
I...guess they have a point? I'm sure focus groups played their parts, it was a huge part of the industry then though it is, I suspect, less parent's groups than it is marketing that handles these issues in our enlightened modern times.

Normally I wouldn't bother to hope into this conversation because it's not worth it, however in this particular case getting bent out of shape over it is a self-inflicted wound. Diana in particular. The only thing she MAYBE influenced was the choice in skin tone for that guy she had the hots for who was also the child of a stargazer. Mm, Kosar, with those luscious eyelashes.

>>52608548
Speaking about Diana - I only NOTICED she's black when I was rewatching the show in college. For previous decade or so I was just sure "the other chick" was simply tanned

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>>52608782
>Being this retarded
>Making conclusions this out of touch with reality
/pol/ called. They want to know why are you out

>>52608788
Is it me, or maybe a nostalgia filter, but is she one of those few rare and in-between black characters that AREN'T parody, don't talk in jive and aren't this or that stereotype?

>>52608821
Ah, right, you're the same guy who has been trying desperately to troll the thread. Your bait is really shitty, though. I hope you enjoy this pity (you) and may it tide you over until better days.

>>52600910
Give a sweet 80's metal-esque soundtrack. It should be an 80's throwback in the way Stranger Things was, nothing explicit, but enough infusion of the aesthetic that it feels familiar and new.

>>52608848
>black characters that AREN'T parody, don't talk in jive and aren't this or that stereotype?
Any of that would have been more characterization than she got, as I recall.
But yeah, she was both black and so average as to be forgettable.
(Like the first assistant to Ducky on NCIS)
So I guess that's progress.

>>52608881
I support this.

>>52608881
Reminds me of that reaction image
"Hey kids, remember how cool the 80s were? Let's then remake all the shit you've loved as a child, but with dubstep, crappy CGI and without any commentary that made original fun to watch!"

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>>52608848
She was just a kid same as the others. There were really no huge distinctions in how they were portrayed and given we never really saw their lives in the normal world. We have a few snippets. Eric dad is rich but distant, for instance, which seems to play into his personality issues. I think Diana might actually be the one we have the most details about, which isn't much. She's a star gymnast and her father is an astronomer.

Although the portrayals are surely just how it worked out, like most 80s cartoons this hardly a high cost endeavor, but it makes sense if they're all from the same general backgrounds, all living and growing up in the same community, became friends, and one day decided to ride the Dungeons and Dragons ride. There's another younger member of the group who wasn't allowed to join them at the amusement park whom they met when he was kidnapped to sabotage a clock. Yeah.

>>52608945
Honestly, I prefer Blandy McBland over Latisha Chantal Freeman. At least you can put on her any imaginary personality you want rather than Sassy Black Chick #5259471

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>>52608990
FYI that's not the kid who was kidnapped to sabotage the clock. Terri was the girl from Earth who had visions of the future.

>>52608880
>Anyone who tells me to get back to /pol/ is trolling

>>52608099
Try harder

>>52609022
If it makes you feel better there were some options: you didn't bother to read the comment before replying, you replied to the wrong comment, or you're really that stupid. Assuming you were trolling actually allows you to retain the most dignity. You'd probably be more comfortable back at /pol/ headquarters. Sure your brief exposure to rainbow-colored friendship magic unicorns gave you a taste for /tg/ but hopefully it is fleeting.

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>>52608990
Fuck you, Jimmy Whittaker, you fucking piece of shit! Call the cops! Call the governor! Get the President!

>>52590471
>These children managed to defeat Lolth
And then posed for photos over her corpse
https://www.flickr.com/photos/31429858@N02/albums/72157608877685312

>>52609168
So you are a /pol/tard and a newfag. Nice knowing.

Here is a pro-tip: nobody gives a fuck. And since it's anonymous imageboard, the easiest way is to stop replying. The only more efficient one is you getting your ass back to /pol/

>>52601206
What is that?

>>52601698
What? The Reeves ending easily sets up this possibility.

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>>52609614
>being this new
God damn, son, you're lucky you ran into us today.

>>52608572
>>52608572
>I suspect the hat is capricious by nature.

Uni could use it better than Presto.

>>52601767
No, worse. They were Bruce Willis!

>>52609803
Uni's name isn't Presto, though. It's fate!

Also, amusingly or not, apparently in the real world he was known for his shitty magic tricks. Never let it be said that Dungeon Master didn't have a sense of humor.

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>>52609803
But then Uni would have to dual class! Was that even invented yet!?

>>52609535
Whoa...

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>>52609779

>>52609845

AD&D, 1e PHB.

>>52609803
It's been pointed out in the thread more than once, but whoever had the hat would have wound up being a joke character. All of the kids were limited by a combination of S&P and parent's groups. Besides, a far greater pressure than having an effective wizard in a player group is having a joke character in a kid's cartoon. He and Eric wound up tag teaming that shit as hard as they could.

>>52609951
Unfortunately for the kids the show was called Dungeons and Dragons, not Advanced Dungeons and Dragons. Shucks!

>>52610018
>Unfortunately

Just stop right there. That is a shitty, shitty troll, or you just don't understand things.

>>52610495
Untwist your furry underwear, Diana, here in the realm those are called "jokes." If you need another example consider your friend Pesto's entire life.

>>52601626
>that pic
It's like a sliding scale from left to right of people who have their shit together.

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>>52610542
>Pesto's entire life

Is that what I am to you? A JOKE? You think I'm funny?!!?

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>>52610653

>>52597686
Pretty sure it predates the name 'Mystara' anyway.
>Can only imagine the hatred it would get these days if it had been set in The Realms.

>>52610808
It's such a loose adaptation anyway. Generic setting, generic baddies, generic quests. Don't get me wrong, I quite enjoy it. It's not high art but it doesn't claim to be. It's charming in its way, like a group's first attempt to play the game. Plus it has Peter Cullen and Frank Welker. What's not to love?

>>52599984
...Why is her throne made out of fucking space jockeys?

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>>52610808
For what it's worth my answer was a joke based on the opening credits. I thought that was worth mentioning because people seem to be having a hard time recognizing jokes these days.

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>>52610854
She's not just about spiders but all creatures that ensnare their prey!

>>52600897
>>52604688
Just so we're clear, those kids are Burger King mascots.

>>52610934
Even Shadowrunners get the munchies, in fact especially Shadowrunners. So why not get paid to promote their favorite junk food?

>>52600632
Make him a knight, he's probably always considered mounted, anyway.

>>52610963
Oh, yeah, sponsorship's helpful, especially when you're an underage team just starting out!
Just filling in the 'who the fuck are these characters?' for those too young to remember (or who don't remember them in general; I don't think they were around all that long.)

>>52610983
Have his wheelchair morph into a horse, lance, and armor, which goes away after a battle is over.

Eventually he gets the ability to keep them around all the time, if he wants (after a major character-building arc).

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>>52610998
Who doesn't remember the dark days of public broadcasting when Big Bird had to crossdress just to gain access to the dumpsters behind McDonald's? Times that may be upon us again thanks to proposed cuts to the arts and sciences!

>>52606339
the curly haired broad claims she's an empath psychic

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/danguthrie/2010/08/18/a-haunted-life

>>52590625
The script for the unmade last episode suggests the villain wasn't trying all that hard to take down the kids.

He even strikes a deal with them. "I'll show you how to get home, easy, and all it'll cost you is your weapons" and it was a genuine bargin. No tricks or traps.

You said it yourself, he fights Tiamat regularly. Do you really think he could lose to kids on a daily basis unless he just didn't have his heart in it?

>>52590914
He literally pulls them out of his hat.
His hat is freaking OP.

>>52590914
eh isnt wiz hat is fighter and a pretty cool guy. Eh kills bullywugs and doesnt afraid of anything.

>>52602280
By this logic, wouldn't Venger or some of the other major human-like villains in the show just be other humans that fell into the world and min-maxed their way to ultimate power?

Kind of like a reverse of what anime fantasy has been doing for the last few years, where the hero is some lose from the real world, but becomes the villain instead because 'muh power level'.

>>52611483
Well there's a few things. First we know Venger isn't strong enough to stand up to Tiamat. The kids supercharged weapons were still no match for Tiamat however they could have defeated Venger. He fears Tiamat and frankly runs, but then even the kids have managed to escape from Big T.

At any rate Venger, it turns out, isn't the ultimate evil in the realm when his boss is present. That guy is on a far different level entirely. Seriously, Eric, you dumbass! They told you not to look, dude! They warned you!

>>52612104
Which, while true, doesn't mean it isn't possible. There has never been any set powerlevels (always a bullshit idea) and whether the kids could truly have destroyed Venger with their weapons regardless of whether he pulled his punches is up to whether you believe Tiamat (or whether Tiamat knows Venger was punking out like a little bitch). Dragon's Graveyard did have Dungeon Master call Venger "son" and he does show sorrow several times regarding Venger.

My own personal belief, purely for shits and giggles? Dungeon Master and Venger are indeed father and son and have a pact to drag suckers into their realm and fuck with them. Because what fun is being a Forever DM or the ultimate evil in the realm if you don't have players to fuck with? So they kidnap assholes from other dimensions to give themselves something to do.

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>>52600910

The kids have stats of kids.

They only beat encounters by being horrible munchkins, rules lawyers, and a bit of modern day engineering.

>>52612345
That is a ridiculously expensive way just do dump someone in the Astral Plane. It'd actually be cheaper to look up to the heavens and shout to the god of the enemy that so-and-so said the god was a fucking pussy, then run as the wrath rains down.

>>52612345
>The kids have stats of kids.
I can get behind this.
Hank and Diana were the only ones that really had above average physical stats.

>They only beat encounters by being horrible munchkins, rules lawyers,
This is fourth-wall breaking foolishness.

>and a bit of modern day engineering.
This could be awesome... except they're teenagers, not engineers.
I would like it if they used stuff Presto produced to foil their enemies.
Distracting enemies with an alarm clock, using a fire extinguisher in a booby trap, etc.

>>52613089
>That is a ridiculously expensive way just do dump someone in the Astral Plane
Did you miss the part where one arrow destroys a 10 foot chunk of anything?
Imagine firing that at a dragon.
I love this thing.

>>52613578
It doesn't destroy it, it dumps it in a random location in the Astral Plane. It's not he same as a 10 foot radius sphere of annihilation. Sure you can rip down some fortifications or destabilized a structure if you hit something load bearing but there's far cheaper spells that can accomplish that.

Sure, send Venger to the Astral Plane. It's not like he can't open a portal back.

>>52613619
>sphere of annihilation
There we go, now we can cause some serious shit.

>Should a gate spell be cast upon a sphere of annihilation, there is a 50% chance (01–50 on d%) that the spell destroys it, a 35% chance (51–85) that the spell does nothing, and a 15% chance (86–100) that a gap is torn in the spatial fabric, catapulting everything within a 180-foot radius into another plane. If a rod of cancellation touches a sphere of annihilation, they negate each other in a tremendous explosion. Everything within a 60-foot radius takes 2d6x10 points of damage. Dispel magic and mage’s disjunction have no effect on a sphere.

http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD%3ASphere_of_Annihilation

>>52613089
>>52613619
So I read up on this and you're right.
I swear the combo affected objects at some point, and I can't see any reason for it to only affect creatures, but fine.

>>52613705
You sir, might some military funding.

>>52613761
Certainly anything stationary will be ripped apart within the area of effect. Not sure if anything can resist the pull but it doesn't last long so anything caught half-in and half-out won't be having a good day.

>>52599984
Lolrhrobics.
"Okay girls! Today we are going to exercise those arms so you don't get tired soon of whipping your slaves and also gain more stamina to last longer during the upcoming ritual orgies next month! "

>>52600797
Log Horizon explicitly went there.

>>52600297
Why the moral guardians didn't flip the shit with the heroic good aligned nazi episode?

>>52614108
Maybe they did? Although he was never identified as a Nazi outright, and he was one of the "good ones" who fought tyranny so I guess he gets a pass?

They had an episode with probably-Satan as Venger's master who nearly fucked everything up, so if that one made it through I wouldn't be surprised a guy who was fighting for the wrong team who nevertheless wanted to be a good guy and suckle at America's teat survived.

>>52614108
Nothing more patriotic than showing your enemies admitting you were right and freedom and Eric's mom's apple pie is awesome.

>>52605077
That's not quite true.

GI Joe small arms were clearly firearms in the first miniseries; half the time they clearly went "bang" instead of "bloo" or "zap". And in the movie, they became firearms again (a bunch of mooks on both sides even died on-screen).

In between, however, they were lasers, and sometimes the barrels were depicted as having glass covers.

>>52600910
I'll make it a sequel to the original show.
The kids are now parents and back to our world.
Their kids are aware of their parents adventures as "a long D&D campaign" not an actual event. One day a stranger appears during an annual reunion the Kids do for stay in touch and check if the changes The Realm did to their bodies are still on effect.
Their adventures in The Realm modify them to be like actual D&D characters so in their 40s they look if they were in their late 20s and during the pilot glimpses of superhuman skills are seeing but everyone keeps a low profile.
During the reunion a Stranger appears, a reedemed Venger who informs the Kids the DM has been kidnapped by a powerful entity from beyond the realms.
The Kids do agree to go back since they aware that time goes slowly in the planes and by nostalgia plus somefinding their adult lives dull.
(cont.)

>>52614225
Then later that same day the Stranger returns and tells the New Kids the truth since their parents had been captured by the same entity.
With Reedemed Venger as the new DM the New Kids are given powers for their quest which this time will take the adventure through the multiverse as they chase the Evil Force that took the Original DM and Kids as prisoners.
In their quest the New Kids will visit the Forgotten Realms, Greyhawk, Mystara, Eberron, Athas, Ravenloft, Sigil, Krynn
and even the planes of MtG and Equestria to stop this Evil Force which wants to use the Old Kids and DM for be resurrected and conquer the multiverse: Yawgmoth.

>>52612104
He really should have taken SAN damage.

When it first came on, I actually closed my eyes; I wouldn't see its face for another 20+ years. It was a pretty terrifying first act.

>>52614149
Let's do the quick run-down of elements moral watch-dogs LIKED in that episode
>It's never clearly stated he's Nazi
>He is more than willing to get the fuck out from Nazis and is GLAD he's not among them anymore
>No swastikas (his armband is a fucking joke)
>He seriously and honestly doesn't want to be an enemy for anyone, doing this shit in his timeline becuase he's forced to
>He an adult, so it's allowed for him to be SLIGHTLY more brutal and to be actually effective against Venger
>He returns to "join forces of freedom" and creates a stable time loop leading to "superior world"
In short, the guy get a free pass, because he exists (from moral watch-dog point of view) as a character that is good despite evil circumstances and doesn't give up his ideals of freedom and goodness when facing absurdly strong temptation from pretty much Not!Satan.

>>52600910
If Dungeons And Dragons was actually going to make a new cartoon, you should make it actually about a bunch of people playing dungeons and dragons. Make it like an animated version of Something like the adventure zone or Critical role

>>52610018
If they ever remake the show they should actually call it advanced dungeons and dragons

>>52608662
High cut stuff in general is hot as hell. Leotards, bikinis, swimsuits, high cut was all the rage of that era. I can only hope that we see its return one day.

>>52614547
You'd need a significant reason to show the playing of the game scenes instead of just doing a fantasy show.

There have been other shows that have done this, but I'm trying to think of one that did it well beyond the rare framing device.
Maybe Wishbone?
I only ever saw a couple episodes of that but it sounds right.

Actually, it could work.

>>52614547
So they should make a Saturday morning cartoon about grogs and expect kids will watch that?
Yeah, kids fucking love all those shows made by baldling 30-something people playing D&D and wearing silly costumes.. oh wait, they are mostly watched by balding 30-something people who play D&D on their free time too! What a surprise!

You are missing the broad ideas for marketing so hard it's not even funny. You don't create shows like this to appeal to some specific target audience. You make shows like this to promote your product.
What are you? Some guy born in mid-90s who is under the impression cartoons up until... let's be generous and say up until Batman: TAS were anything else than commercials?
This shit was made to promote D&D. Not among people who already were playing it, but among kids who might one day start playing it, solely because they are familiar with basic concept and the brand itself. It's called "merching".

>>52614547
>Something like the adventure zone or Critical role
>>52614773
>So they should make a Saturday morning cartoon about grogs and expect kids will watch that?
Wow, that's such a bad idea that my brain literally didn't absorb it. Huh.

When I said it could work in the above post, I was thinking that the players would be the teens from the first show, or a similar analog.
The episodes would run in arcs as they played campaigns in various settings.
Each player would exhibit idealized "player behavior", such as Eric being a bit of a munchkin and Bobby being combat focused, Presto making corny jokes, etc.
The DM would be the only adult, likely the owner of a clean, spacious, well decorated, and organized FLGS that inexplicably closed after school once a week, probably Friday, so that the group could play in the shop.
The DM (perhaps somebody's uncle?) would function as the narrator and half the acting budget would go to getting someone really good.

The show would showcase 5e adventures and settings, perhaps occasionally dipping into older realms, always tying into D&D products.

We would see the players mature as well as the characters within the adventures.
The show would teach all the positive traits that players should have and how to coach others away from bad habits.
First thoughts being: separating IC from OOC; accepting character death; speaking up, paying attention and engaging in every aspect of the game,

>>52615004
Actually, we could have all three scenarios:

1. The show is about players and their adventures in an actual game of D&D.

2. The players are the children of the original characters.

3. The first season is the DM running an "old adventure he ran once" and is a tightly plotted reboot of the entire first series with the players playing themselves transported into a fantasy realm (babby's first character) and ultimately defeating Venger.

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>>52600982

>>52590538
In order
>Dark human
>Vulkanian discount human
>Souless human
>Nerdy human
>Main character human
>Angry manlet (will never learn)
Pretty quota to me.

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>>52600910
It needs to have hella fricking epicness for the epic win, that's what kids like these days right?

Just describe it as that, put some badasses in there I don't care, just remember to put one or two niggers in there so they think we're diverse or someshit, just get the ghetto stereotype. There made the series.

Also it has to sell figurines and the retarded shitbooks fucking hasbro breaking my balls on that.

>>52615609
>Implying the series wasn't made like that in the first place.

>>52615684
>>Implying the series wasn't made like that in the first place
Well, that plus cocaine.

>>52597869
my goodness. That is some kinky shit. I like how that wizard operates though.

>>52615684
That's the joke.

>>52610808
Wasn't Mystara basically invented to shut up nitpicky fanboys anyway?

The way I always heard it was that Mystara was the name they gave to the lands from Outdoor Adventures because it didn't have a name, wasn't part of Greyhawk or Blackmoor, and players kept insisting that it had to be its own legitimate setting.

>>52610934
Shadowrun IS the closest thing you can use /tg/-wise to describe the adventures of the BK Kids Club. I distinctly remember them fighting against some corporation that trapped them in a video game so they could tear down their tree house headquarters to build their factory.

>>52616899
More or less. But the decision was made only after they've realised how much money will be made on simply printing the same shit once again, but with adding few proper nouns

>>52614593
Second Edition?

>>52618733
Sure

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>>52616925
>I distinctly remember them fighting against some corporation that trapped them in a video game so they could tear down their tree house headquarters to build their factory.
I can't confirm this, but this sort of trauma would explain them acting out later in life.

>>52618746
Nice.

Bump, you fags!

>>52623926
It's over, anon. They can never go home, but we still can.

>>52608548
>I want /pol/ to go.

So you effectively want to live in denial about how bad, and downright toxic the situation has gotten? Got it.

>>52626158
Only that they've did. What? You never listened the audio-play with all the original voice-actors and made from the unproduced final episode?

>>52627395
It's like you never saw the original show or know anything about 80s moral watchdogs and general management practices back then, but crying about some bullshit from current times.

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>>52626158
>They can never go home, but we still can.
>we still can

>>52620544
It was in one of the little comics that you would get with your kids meal. I never paid attention to the rhyme of reason behind WHEN you got the comics, but they did have an over arcing storyline.

>>52601056
>Captina Muslimah supposed to be Captain Britain

Wow, I had no idea comics had turned to this much shit. This is awful garbage.

>>52632159
Sadly /tg/ may be home but it is still not equivalent to The Realm of Dungeons and Dragons. You cannot find a bullywug here to fuck, however if you are very lucky (or not) you can probably find an anon willing to wear a bullywug costume for you to fuck.

>>52616041
Cocaine is the magical ingredient missing from modern kid shows.
Well, that and a demand for 60 episodes a year, which I guess could only happen with a steady supply of cocaine.

>>52635584
>You cannot find a bullywug here to fuck, however if you are very lucky (or not) you can probably find an anon willing to wear a bullywug costume for you to fuck.
This is absolutely true.
To find a bullywug to fuck,
>>/soc/

>>52635661
It's three > symbols, anon:

>>>/soc/

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>>52633103
Since you clearly don't read comics I don't know why this upsets you, but if it will ease your sphincter she was never Captain Britain (who was dead for awhile (multiple times!) but now isn't). Her hero name is Excalibur since she DOES (or did, I haven't read anything with her in it for awhile) wield the sword, but as others point out in Marvel the sword has been used by multiple people. It doesn't make you king of the Britons, however. Others have used Excalibur including Brian Braddock and the Black Knight. It's also been stolen several times, notably by Morgan Le Fay. Just as in the old Deities and Demigods manual the scabbard may be more valuable. Marvel's Excalibur can act as a 'sword of kill nearly anything' but the scabbard still protects and prevents you from bleeding out.

>>52635661
Let's be honest, your chances of finding someone to dress in a bullywug costume on /soc/ are remotely slim to none, however given this is 4chan you will at least be able to find multiple people who don't bathe or clean up their parent's basements and so as to be nearly indistinguishable from a bullywug, especially the smell.

>>52635714
Ah. Thanks.
I usually don't do the whole "go to ___" thing.

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>>52635905
>nearly indistinguishable from a bullywug, especially the smell.
Yeah, that's where I was going.

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>>52636057
I never really cared for bullywugs until rewatching the D&D cartoon. They're such lovable little assholes who don't get enough love from the gaming community.

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>>52636089
>>52636057

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>>52607191
>I don't know whether to be upset over this.

I have fond memories of the 1980s, any fond memories I have now of current women's fashion are subject to my wife's opinion
She doesn't have a snake headed whip, but it could be unpleasant

>>52636135
>She doesn't have a snake headed whip
Well whose fault is that? Does she have a birthday coming up?

>>52636304
This anon knows what's up.

>>52636135
My wife's opinions on fashion have an insidiously subtle affect on me.
I remember finding myself agreeing with an unknown young woman's comment on a mall escalator on the annoying staying power of skinny jeans despite them being horrible.
We chatted while her boyfriend looked on, utterly confused as to what was going on.

>>52637095
Now that's a Sheila I wouldn't mind uncloaking, mate!

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>>52636304
That ain't happening.
We have the worst fucking snakes here, it's really no joke

>>52636868
Skinny jeans when you where skinny seemed like a great idea at the time, up until it comes to testicular torsion or some other kind of nightmarish, junk mangling shenanigans and you just know some intern bastard is going to take photos of in ER for their office trophy board.
had a friend who is a radiologist. Its a thing, if you ever have something irretrievably rammed up your arsehole- take the honourable way out and commit seppuku
Best soviet wife has a weird idea on western fashion, it basically doesn't exist before about 1995 and even then is subject to some weird, abnormal eastern euro twist that really doesn't make much sense. Cultural memes and icons we grew up with are basically dead to her, so its a painful process of trying to explain why 1980s The Cure was awesome, men should have Robocop played weekly to them to avoid sissyfication and what the fuck Hypercolour is.

>>52637315
>We have the worst fucking snakes here, it's really no joke

>not importing fine ass snakes for your little woman's whip

It's like you don't even love her!

>>52590471
>Making a thread with a black person featured somewhere in the OP
You've performed the ritual to summon the rednecked hoards of /pol/ you mad man!

>>52590570
2 White guys
2 Gingers (one of them a girl)
1 Spic
1 Black girl

>>52637783
>Eric
>a guy
He's a boy, anon. A little boy who has yet to claim his big boy pants which won't happen until the day when he manages to grow a pair.

>>52638441
The fact that you felt the need to specify this and "correct" that anon prompts me to reply with this:
"Takes one to know one."

>>52639365
Dear sweet baby Jesus the day has finally arrived on /tg/. Someone is white knighting Eric from Dungeons and Dragons! I mean he still won't sleep with you, anon, but kudos for braving this new territory!

>>52601056
But racist nerds DO hate black people, that's what the word "racist" generally means.

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>>52629710
I don't think there's an audio drama with all the original voice actors, only one with the voice actor for Sheila.

>>52640613
You are days too late, anon
>>52591261

>>52640613
It's already in the thread, so what's your point?

>>52640614
Not him, but you are saying they've picked the worst of all the voices from the original cast as their only one?

>>52640639
It's possible they did a reunion, but I don't think there was a special for the boxset because I don't think they had any version of Requiem with the box set.

It's been quite some time, I'd have to look it up and it doesn't really feel worth it to be honest. Thread is nearly dead anyway.

>>52640394
>anon is bothered by an anonymous stranger referring to a fictional character as a guy so much that they post a small rant about how immature a fictional teenager character is.
>I point out how that is, in itself, fairly immature.
>anon replies with the equivalent of: "You looove him so much! You want to kiss him! Anon and Eric in a tree! K-I-S-S-I-N-G!"
You're not exactly helping to prove yourself to be in any position to call anyone a "boy", anon.

>>52601056

why isn't Excalibur a scimitar???

>>52641520
It was forged by the faeries which is why when you swing it it giggles and says, "Oh you thilly goothe!"

>>52641396
Please show us on the anatomically correct Uni doll where Dungeon Master touched you, anon, and we'll put that bastard away where he can't hurt you or any little boy ever again, then maybe your obsession with the word "boy" will be forever exorcised. If that fails I suggest self medicating.

>>52635905
She clearly was Captain Britain but I think only briefly, at least Braddock was active prior to the last Secret War but Marvel has been known to enjoy to enjoy people with the same name running around.

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>>52600910
Don't
Just make Fell's Five instead.

>>52641968
I keep meaning to read that, only ever seen a few bits posted.

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>>52642026
It is really worth the read.
It's the best Official DnD comic out there. Shame it ends too soon.

>>52641555
>your obsession with the word "boy"
Nah, I'm just calling an immature anon out on their hypocrisy.
You could just as easily ask them what their "obsession with the word 'guy'" was about.
I'm at least responding to a hypocrite singling out one teenager as being immature.
That anon was replying to an anon who had the audacity to post "guy".

>>52642704
No, you're freaking out over a joke. A joke that wasn't really all that good anyway. But fear not, the thread is on page 9 and soon it shall be gone, to haunt you nevermore.

>>52642802
The sad part is I was expecting someone to say that Eric was the "spic" (we were dealing with the racist /pol/ baiters anyway) and then the inevitable argument that Presto is clearly Spanish since his name ends in -o, but oh no wait Presto is clearly Italian! Wait, that's only if his name is Pesto!

Sadly we got more bait instead, which should have been obvious. Feed a /pol/ a (you) and they'll never leave.

>>52642802
>freaking out
Making a few posts, the first of which was phrased humorously, in response to a hypocrite is not "freaking out"
One could argue that "Dear sweet baby Jesus the day has finally arrived on /tg/. Someone is white knighting Eric from Dungeons and Dragons!" was freaking out.

>over a joke
Not much of one.
It's strange focus and inexplicable passion disproportionate to the post it replied to is more odd than even mildly amusing.
I'm short, it comes off more as an autistic rant than an attempt at humor.

>>52642026
>>52642273
>It is really worth the read.
This.

>>52643030
Oh no, anon, "Dear sweet baby Jesus the day has finally arrived on /tg/. Someone is white knighting Eric from Dungeons and Dragons!" was the proper reaction. Nobody has ever white knighted Eric so hard, it was a time to rejoice or just stare in awe. That's the only explanation for someone who somehow misreads Eric's character that badly. He's written as a selfish brat and a coward. You know, not "manly" traits. He's distinctly meant to be childish and since it was demanded by parent's groups that he symbolize the wrongness of going against groupthink he's very overtly meant to be written this way and leave a sour impression.

However in the second season this very childishness can be what gave him his brief, and often fleeting moments of character growth. If you love him this much that's fine, amazing even, but to claim he has none of these faults means you're either blind and deaf or else you never even saw the show.

>>52641968
>Just make Fell's Five instead.
Probably a better alternative as you wouldn't have nostalgic fans upset with you, no matter what you do.
But I really was hoping for a thread full of reboot ideas.

>>52601023
Surprised with all the /pol/ in this thread that nobody commented on the Aryan Diana art.

>>52643250
I noticed it but didn't want to point it out for that reason. Weird how much shit as in this thread. Was it because people were taking the bait or is /pol/ a secret child of the 80s?

>>52643167
>Nobody has ever white knighted Eric so hard
>misreads Eric's character that badly.
>If you love him this much
And the autistic projection continues.
Show me where I denied, even a little, that Eric was immature.
I'll wait.
By saying, "Takes one to know one." I was even accepting the appraisal, as you are clearly as child yourself.

>That's the only explanation
How about calling out an immature hypocrite on their shit?
By violently reacting to Eric being included with those called "guy", (not even "man" but just "guy"), you revealed yourself as an immature fool.
And I pity you.

>>52643316
I never understand when /pol/ posts don't whither and die, ignored and un(you)ed.

>>52643369
So wait, someone points out Eric is immature, you admit he's immature and say as much in your own post, and can't see how you've just committed the exact same sin as what you are accusing the other person of?

You're a special kind of stupid, son.

>>52643385
Ha, I always suspected it might possibly be a misguided application of "the only thing needed for evil/stupid to triumph is for people to do nothing." But in this case feeding them (you)s is the worst you can do. Sometimes inaction is the exact kind of action a situation needs.

>>52643533
>can't see how you've just committed the exact same sin as what you are accusing the other person of?
See
>>52642704
>I'm at least responding to a hypocrite singling out one teenager as being immature.
>That anon was replying to an anon who had the audacity to post "guy".
Not all sins are created equal.