Infinity General: EXTRA THICK edition

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First to post my probably mediocre list.

>>52578334
Didn't you just post that, anon?

>>52578600

Nope. This one is smarter. Replaced the Achilles with button pushers and a heavy that all infiltrate. Everything but the Asura and the Sophotect with bots infiltrates.

>>52578649
It's extremely limited by weaponry, but, you might enjoy it. Best thing to do is play it, instead of waiting for some anon to tell you you're brilliant or stupid.

>>52578857

I might enjoy it, but really I'm trying to find anything that works as well as Myrmidon spam that isn't.

>>52578649
>>52578857
Too late, I'm going to tell him it's stupid. You don't have any fucking heavy weapons and those Dasyus/Nagas could all be button pushers or minelayers for just a few more points. And I still don't see the point of the Asura hacker when you don't have any god damn repeaters.

>>52579195

I don't need them to be button pushers, I've already got some.

The lack of heavy weapons bugs me too, but I'm slowly coming to the conclusion that heavy weapons aren't as effective as I'd like. My old list was heavy on spitfires and they never failed to disappoint me when going against TAGs.

The Assura hacker is my anti-hacker/anti-TAG. Probably not sufficient though.

>>52579278
>I've already got some.
A button pusher in a marker state is worth two who aren't.

>>52579312

One of those button pushers is already stealthed.

That said, I'm retooling it. I just really, really don't want to default to Myrmidons.

Are spec ops worth playing?

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About 47% through this.

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back view of my WIP

>>52581110
>>52581125

I very much like the earth tones you've got going on.

Help me into fireteam building. How do I decide what weapons to pick on an offensive link with wildly variable rangebands? What sort of elements go into making a proper defensive link team?

>>52581634
Faction?

>>52581634
Nomads, primarily Corregidor.

>>52582124 is for >>52581964 , whoops

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>>52581634
Huh, I was going to make a huge collage as a generalist thing but here you go, I started with Corregidor so you're in luck.

Brigada are a pain train, guns for just about everything, advance up the board, resistant to hackers from both the tinbot and can fairy dust themselves. Also button pusher thanks to the hacker. Pretty expensive, aharis option would have been golden.

Deadpool and friends is a delivery system for Massacre to let him do his thing as well as smoke up forward positions, the Jags are really up to your discretion, I like the ADL/panzer but it cant smoke dodge so its a weak point.

The Wildcats and Alguacils will have the most variety when it comes to core links and these are just examples. Wildcats are aggressive but slow, BUT links are what helps them get to the places they want and light it all on fire.

The Wildcat Haris has both a decent shooty gun, but also a utility piece in the AHD for when you cant shoot something dead, or other asshattery you want to perform.

Alguacils are baseline troops in pretty much every regard. Our dragon slut can help them move around or DTW assholes in camo.

The dual missile setup is a few points cheaper than dual snipers, but the positive range brackets of flash pulse from the FOs line up to where the missile sweet spot range starts. So if someone is trying to get past your missiles, sure okay, now they are even more likely to get a face full of stun. Again, this is just an example.

>>52581634
Long range defensive alguaciles will do ya fine

Variable range offensive you have options between the pain train, wildcats and jags

I would say if you have intruders run a jag link with 2 panzerfausts, otherwise a wildcat link with spitfire and hrl will be great

If you want a straight up shit-kicking team that does the best at longer ranges take a pain train with HMG and ML

>>52582384

Continuing my post. That Lupe link is a kitchen sink is meant for support and objectives. Hacker can provide HI or REM buffs, FO is great for ARO and painting targets for missiles/better shooting odds in general, and the HMG to actually kill things.

The double ML/MSR link is going to be prone on a rooftop or something, Id park a daktari zonbot by them to keep them going from the inevitable fire they will get. the Paramedic is really just a stand in for whatever you want but could work if your dak is down or the zond had more important shit to do.

Important thing about links is what you want to do with them. LI make for the best defensive links for the fewest points, this allows for ARO presence for lane control as well as feeding orders into other units. You can make a super cheap roadblock from a Wildcat haris with a HRL/BSG, with the mandatory combi+flamer each of these guns will provide a threat in different ranges and thus cover for each other(plus BSG has a repeater to put down for even more board control).


You don't need to use every single SWC option in a link, but often you will as they become focal points for your whole force. And most unit profiles have some kind of cohesion for tactical flexibility. Dont grab 3 ML and 2 BSG Brigadas, they dont exactly complement each other and it eats all of your SWC.

Most importantly, give your plans a try and have fun with it.

>>52582384
I'll add a bit more on to this

A Brigada ML is also valid for anti-armour or ARO work if you're not afraid of spending SWC. There's always one good profile you won't be able to take, the only one that I'd say you should always take no matter what is the HMG.

HRL is also valid for a Wildcat haris, usually alongside a shotgun or number 2.

and the filename should be zwo instead of zwei

>>52582789
awww shit I dun fucked up

Ok, newer Yu Jing players. Getting ready to dive into Fire Teams for the first time, want to do ISS. Which list looks better?

Wu Ming Fire Team with Hsien
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GROUP 1 10 / 4
HSIEN HMG, Nanopulser / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 61)
WÚ MÍNG Heavy Rocket Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 33)
WÚ MÍNG (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 31)
WÚ MÍNG (Fireteam: Duo) Chain Rifle, Submachine Gun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
ZHÀNYING (Sensor) Breaker Combi Rifle, Nimbus Grenades / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 26)
CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device) Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 13)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)

GROUP 22
CELESTIAL GUARD Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
CELESTIAL GUARD Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
SOPHOTECT Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 31)
YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device) Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 13)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)

5.5 SWC | 300 Points

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>>52582828

Or without the Hsien;

Wu Ming Fire Team no Hsien
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GROUP 1 10 / 4
WÚ MÍNG HMG / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 39)
WÚ MÍNG Heavy Rocket Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 33)
WÚ MÍNG (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 31)
WÚ MÍNG (Fireteam: Duo) Chain Rifle, Submachine Gun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
ZHÀNYING (Sensor) Breaker Combi Rifle, Nimbus Grenades / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 26)
CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device) Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 13)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)

GROUP 24
CELESTIAL GUARD Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
CELESTIAL GUARD Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
SOPHOTECT Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 31)
YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device) Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 13)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
CHAĪYÌ Yaókòng Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

5.5 SWC | 299 Points

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>>52582833

Sophotects arent Yu Jing, they're aleph. I think the list builders have an error.

>>52582907
Sophotects are the only doctors the ISS has.

>>52582907
ISS can take the Sophotect because they're buddy buddy with ALEPH. They also have AVA 2 Dakinis and 1 Garuda.

>>52582907
The Imperial Service sectorial can take a Sophotect, a Garuda and a couple of Dakini. Similar to how Acontecimento gets Nagas and QK gets a few Corregidor troops.

>>52582924
>>52582927
>>52582928

Oh, sectorial rules. Weird.

>>52583121
>not genious for forcing you to branch to a new faction without you even noticing it

>>52583287

Eh. I'm more used to 40k's obnoxious ramming of new models down their player base's throats by reworking the rules every edition and creating obvious power gaps. Subtlety is a bit of a surprise for me.

>>52583287
Eh, I find it cool because I only play sectorial.

>>52580850
Personally I don't like them and when they have that option in tournaments it makes me sad. I feel like they throw the balance off, they are way more useful in sectorials where they can link and some factions get much better weapon options. My friends that work at Nintendo tell me they are whipping up a major overhaul that will dive much deeper into faction specific options. Hopefully that will be balanced.

>>52579278
You don't use spitfires against TAGs, you use things with explosive damage or HMG if you are feeling lucky. Spitfires are for chewing up light and medium infantry.

>>52582828
>>52582833
One common thing that bugs me about both lists is what's the point of the Zhanying? If you're going to shove him into a Wu Ming fireteam why not reach for something special like the Madtraps, Hacker, or FO. Otherwise another CR SMG Wu Ming will do just fine as filler.

The first list feels kind of spastic to be honest. If you go Wu Ming core, you might as well go all the way. But looking at it, it feels like the list really wants to go Hsien Haris with Zhanying Hacker, Wu Ming Duo, and Core Kuang Shi. The Hsien Haris is expensive, but burst 5 BS 14 MSV2 is pretty damn sweet. +3 BS and Burst 2 on smoke grenades makes it reliable and you don't have to worry about corralling the Kuang Shi.

The second list is traditional pain train, but I'd scrounge a bit to make that Zhanying special or swap with another Wu Ming. It's kind of amazing how you're sitting on 19 orders. I'd personally want to squeeze in a Rui Shi to be honest, but it's a damn fine if brutish list. Just be careful about relying on those Kuang Shi for orders, All it takes is a TR or Gao Rael Sniper to put them down.

>>52583956
Sensor is some good shit, never underestimate it. And that breaker combi isn't bad at burst 4 either, it works well against high ARM opponents.

I agree about getting madtraps though, they're entirely worth the extra 2 points.

>>52584026
>>52583956
I have a thing that I regularly do that seems to be a pain in the dick for my enemies. With a few Messenger/Guardian Remotes (Fugazi/Pathfinder for PanO) in whatever mix you please, you can move them forward first turn with a combined order and drop Sniffers and basically cover half of the midfield with a sensor net. Also, Triangulated Fire is the poor man's MSV.

Is there any artwork or model for Bit & Kiss!?

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This just in! We have leaked pictures of ALEPH's core processor!

>>52584782
>VGA
>PS/2
>PCMCIA
>IR
C U T T I N G
E D G E

My fucking Tosh Satellite Pro 460CDT is more advanced.

If you have a list that consists of a fireteam: core of HI, a fireteam: Haris of MI, two heavier solo heavy infantry, a doctor and an engineer, no forward deployment or camo shenanigans or anything, what's the best way to split the combat groups up?

I'm fiddling with an USARF list, currently at two Blackjacks (one APHMG, one T2 Sniper), a Minuteman Core Link (LT Rifle, Marksman/AP Rifle, BSG+Grenades, Missile Launcher, FO), a Marauder Haris Link (Fireteam: Haris, MSV1 Sniper, Paramedic); and then a 112 and an AK dozer, and I'm not sure how to best split the combat groups up.

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>>52578239

>>52584762
Not yet.

Updated the RPG core pdf with the new version of the Gear chapter (with Lifestyles and Services sections). Also inserted bookmarks for the subsections of the Lifepath and Gear Rules sections, because somebody bitched about them not having any a couple threads back.

Book is now only missing Life in the Human Sphere, Nomads, and Human Edge sections.

>>52582928
are there any aleph units ariadna can take?

>>52585150

Fuck no.

>>52585157
You don't have to insult people. I was just asking.

>>52585177
It's not being insulting, but think about how at odds that would be with ariadna's theme of low tech.

>>52585150
Not unless the alive anti-establishment group was somehow part of the establishment of Aleph all along.

>>52585194
I don't think themes are that important. But someone like me that plays aleph could have a better start in to ariadna, if they were in some ariadna list. Plus am sure ariadna players would love something like a proxy hacker or a Garuda.

>>52585177

Oh, sorry, it wasn't meant to be an insulting 'Fuck no', but a 'pfft, nah, that shit's not flying' sorta fuck no--not 'youre an idiot' but more just... it's kinda an absurd statement, you know? A calling out of the absurdity of it.

Also we're on 4chan, are you actually getting salty over someone answering a question with a 'fuck no' and nothing else?

>>52585273
Its ok, it just that that we call fuckers Russians and it is very offensive here. Idiot etc is a norm on the interent, but I would not like to be called a Russian.

>>52585325
You're new to 4chan, aren't you? If you get upset over being cussed at or insulted, this isn't the right place for you.

Also, ariadna doesn't have good hackers, TO, or remotes by design, chucklenuts.

Fresh off the presses!

>>52585367
Fucking degenerates they are!

>>52585367
>>52585396
Don't worry. That thing does nothing but evacuate children from conflict and disaster zones. That deviant won't get anywhere.

Also, this >>52584782 is definitely not our core processor. It's a potato with some parts stuck in it.

>>52585367
>not called I Love You, You Love Me

>>52585458
I never had Barney as a kid, but changing it right now.

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>>52585458
>>52585470
And done.

All the strips so far can be viewed here http://adhadh.deviantart.com/gallery/61870406/Infinity-Strips-Rolling-Guts

>>52585265
It's more like fluffwise Ariadna is part of the "third world" along with Nomads and Haqq

YJ and PanO get ALEPH borrowed gear, Ariadna and Haqq get Nomad borrowed gear

>>52585497
It's even better given that the second and fourth verses of that song go "I love you, you love me, we're best friends like friends should be."

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>>52585452
Then why is she giving me bedroom eyes?

>>52585497
Looks great senpai, keep them coming!

>>52585552
She's not. That scowl says "Stay away from me, you perverted freak."

>>52585589

Her resistance merely makes my dog warrior harder!

(Achilles/Female Cameronian still my OTP)

>>52585177
>identifying this much with own question
kek

>>52585619
...you do understand that as a fantasy dinosaur the only part of it's body that is female is it's personality? And that's just to the extent necessary to get children to trust her. She's more rebot than Lhost. Doesn't even have a throat cavity.

>>52585695
I have contacts in Praxis' body shoppes, my functional functionary friend! The lack of holes is only a TEMPORARY setback!

>>52585695
Don't underestimate Nomads. Those things found a way to fuck helots.

>>52585695
You do realize that her being robot only makes it easier to introduce necessary adjustments?

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>>52585619
>>52585695
Though, tbf, I can totally understand how you could find this sexy.

>>52585501
ok, still seems kind of a unfair for aleph players. As they don't get units from other armies. Makes it harder to try out other factions. Considering Aleff is supervising the whole human race, they could at least give some units to all races. I am not saying that everyone should be able to take an achiles or a aleff TAG in their army. That should be limited, the same way other factions big stuff doesn't get handed around. But some basic stuff would be nice, at least in my opinion. Could be fun if I could let say buy a Assault Army or caledonian starter and play a 250-300pts games by adding some of my aleph units.

>>52585717
>>52585721
He's a dogface. I doubt if he's capable of changing the settings on his comlog let alone re-configuring a combat chassis and reprogramming a splinter of us.

>>52585760

The problem is, though, fluff wise, ALEPH... isn't supervising the whole human race. They're TRYING, but both Ariadna and the Nomad Nations actively resist ALEPH meddling in their affairs actively or passively, and Haqq is passively resistant to ALEPH meddling over much, primarily because of apparent favoritism ALEPH shows to PanO and Yu Jing; indeed, ALEPH actively worked agaisnt Ariadnan unity and against the nation's inclusion in the G-5, feeling that it existing seperate weakened the human sphere as a whole compared to PanO and Yu Jing having access to the planet's teseum deposits.

>>52585760
ALEPH is still subservient to the O-12, and specifically Project: Toth. It has to get O-12 permission to deploy anywhere officially. And lending units is an official action.

>>52585766
Dogfaces can go to university too, you know! Nothing stops us from being intelligent and canny individuals with degrees both technical and liberal!

>>52585813
To be clear, we both know there isn't a single college on Dawn with the technology necessary to teach quantronic programming at all, let alone at the level it'd be necessary to rewrite an aspect.

And even if they did, your deviant, subhuman brain wouldn't be capable of understanding it.

>>52585695
And Avicenna used to be a guy. Your point?

>>52585880
To be clear, we both know that basic quantronic programming is a growing field on Dawn (as evidenced by the existence of home-grown defensive hacking devices); and we also know that it is fully possible for an Ariadnan citizen to transfer to a Haqqislamite or Nomad university to further his or her education.

Also, Dogfaces suffer from no amount of decreased intelligence due to their retroviral genetic infection. Just because we *can* turn into giant angry ragemonsters doesn't mean that's *all* we do or all we are.

Dickwaffle.

>>52585880
>inferior AI so insecure it feels the need to be rude to its subjects
If this is truly humanity's candidate for glorious Transcendence then I'm not sure why we're even bothering with all this "pre-recruitment training" bullshit.

>>52585880
Why would you want a collage anyway, they are breeding ground for western socialists.
>>52585794
I am sure the "not controling" thing is just enemy propaganda. The AI is huge and super strong, no nation would be able to avoid being controled by it. Now I understand that some people may not like it. humans are a rebelious bunch and it only shows the benevolance of Aleff, that it lets those groups exist. In fact the very fact that they do exist means Aleff is in full control, because if they were realy outside its influence, it would attack and destroy it with its full power. so if there are a few groups of humans who think they are independed it only is an argument for aleffs total control and those groups weakness.

>>52585760
>>52586069
ALEPH is spelled with a ph for how phat they are.

>>52583956


Thanks! So a couple of things;

I'm new to Sectorials, so when I opened up the Army builder it appeared as though the Zhanying was required to form a 5 man Wu Ming Team. This is just my ignorance :). How can I figure out what must be taken for a Core?

>>If you go Wu Ming core, you might as well go all the way.

Not sure what you mean here, dumping the Kuang Shi?

RE: Second list--I had a Rui Shi at first, with my Zhanying covering Lt. duties. But that was when I was under the impression I had to take her. So I could dump the CG Lt, make some other room and free him up again.

And I understand Fire Teams correctly right? As in, basically for my Fire Team Leader I would be looking at one of the following in a 5 man team;

Hsien BS 17 Burst 5 HMG
or
Wu Ming BS 16 Burst 5 HMG

Not sure scrounging around for the points is worth the MSV and +1 BS

>>52586106
No. Fireteams must be composed of the same unit unless explicitly stated otherwise. So you can take a team of 5 Wu Ming, or 4 Wu Ming with 1 Zhanying. Hsiens can't join a Wu Ming team.

>>52586147

Ahh, Ok I see that now. Sorry for my lack of understanding, new to Infinity and really new to Fire Teams.

So when it says;

"Special Fireteam: Core, up to 4 WU Ming + 1 Zhanying Imperial Agent"

What it's really saying is IF you elect to not take 5 Wu Ming to form a Core, you CAN select one Zhanying with 4 Wu Ming. It's just an option.

Right? Thanks again.

>>52586102
Only by plebs and those who do not know how to read and write. Aleff is Aleff.

>>52586253
Go emigrate to Tunguska.

>>52585931
That's not quite right, in the fluff (the old fluff, might have changed) dogfaces are specifically said to be of low intelligence and prone to developmental disabilities such as ADHD and many bipolar disorders

>>52586069
Aleph can't control the Nomads because they aren't even connected to it (which is the entire point of Tunguska), they use Arachne instead of Mayanet, and they even have a very prominent religious faction dedicated to fighting it. They are as anti-Aleph as it gets.

Ariadna's few quantronic terminals are connected to the Nomads' Arachne, and the few that are on Mayanet are not connected to anything important. Dawn is literally too low tech to be controlled by an AI, and when Aleph tried to use Wallace for more analog controlling it backfired and he became a rogue AI with a FREIHHDAHMM obsession.

Haqq is the only "third world" nation that is slightly influenced by Aleph, but even they have the Old Man on the Mountain severing ties wherever he can find them (see Avicenna). Saladin only gets a pass because he's O12, and he's also rebellious as fuck, as evidenced by that short story where he discusses severing ties with Aleph with Sun Tze, and tries to convince him they both should

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Here's another one. Because bestiaries are fun!

>>52586285
Why should I want to move to Syberia? What does this have to do Idish is used in writing.

P-PanOs are white, right?

>>52586069
Even if Aleph is secretly controlling them, it is still hated by those factions so it wouldn't hand out its units to them.

And if Aleph publicly went and exterminated the Nomads the humans at O-12 in charge of maintaining it would shut it down. They know how intelligent and dangerous Aleph is, so they'd have secret backup plans for all their secret backup plans and it would be hard to deal with all of those while also killing Nomads and fighting off all their allies (and possibly their enemies if they deem Aleph going rogue as the greater threat). Aleph is secretive and controls through manipulation primarily because it has no other choice. Destroying its enemies through brute force would turn most of humanity against it, and that's bad when your function is to help humanity.

>>52586196
Yep. Only one core fireteam and one haris fireteam is allowed in a list. You can have an unlimited number of duo fireteams however.

>>52586308

They tend towards angry personalities and certain behavioral disorders, but they're no less intelligent for it--current fluff, via the RPG rules, they have zero penalties to intelligence or intelligence based skills, even in Dogface form IIRC.

>>52586333
Am sure the whole 0-12 thing is there just to make some of the insecure humans calm. And they don't realy have the option turn it off. I mean why would any goverment or rulers give others the option to over throw it?

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>>52586319
Most of them are.

>>52586397
Noice. Got my second white faction.

>>52586319

They're mostly austrailian, new zealander, and various pacific islanders, plus some europe in the mix.

So sort of.

Ariadna's more white, though.

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>>52586308
Well, in RPG they don't have any penalties whatsoever, just some unique abilities and extra cost.

>>52586426
>Ariadna's more white, though.
Yeah that one is obvious.
France, Scotland, USA, slavs? I don't know. I guess they're white when it fits the narrative.

>>52586397
>Most of them

The place includes India, so I have my doubts.

>>52586467
And yet they're one of the few factions to get an actual Negro miniature.

>>52586467
>>52586483

That's because the USAriadnan contigent to Dawn was specifically called out as being mostly caucasian/asian fro the NASA part, and hispanic/afro-american for the military section.

No mention of native americans. I guess they went extinct.

>>52586481
Yeah, but they also have Germans and Scandinavians.

>>52586319
The future is all forced panracial miscegenation, bro. Inbreeding is forbidden by law.

>>52586493
Guess that final casino was just too much.

>>52586500
I think he meant the scope of India's population. I just like to pretend most Indians didn't make it to space. Or to that year.

>>52586500
So THAT's where Germans went.

>>52586483
Shhh. Not if paint them white.

>>52586548
You'll have a whitefaced black dude then.

>>52586526
They specifically did though, mostly in Acontecimento and paradiso IIRC

>Akalis Sikh commandos
>Stephen Rao
>Bagh-Mari

>>52586568
Hmm. You're right. I should also work on facial features. Thank belli pewter bends and cuts with relative ease.

>>52586577
Surprisingly small number.

>>52586617
Why go through all the trouble? Just let him be black, no reason to go Michael Jackson in his ass

Lol at people thinking their weird mental disorder is gonna survive this century, much less the ones where we actually start colonizing things.

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So who else is excited for the Hassassin Ayyar? He kills without prejudice, pushes button, and doedn't afraid of anything!

>>52586319

As an Australian:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

Yeah, we are a mongrel of a country. Yes, we have a lot of white people but we also have wogs, pakkis, abbos, kiwis and all other sorts. If you are looking for some bastion of white purity, might want to look elsewhere mate.

>>52586717
I want him so bad, and Haqq isn't even my main faction

Also I'm a sucker for capes

>>52586717
ayy

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>>52586729
>If you are looking for some bastion of white purity, might want to look elsewhere mate.
Svalarheima?

>>52586928
According to the RPG Svalhreima started out white-germanic but they are now a minority

On the bright side they say one of the largest components of the population is Cubans, and they are mostly white

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>>52586483
>>52586548
Whaaat? You don't like Demoman?

>>52586928
>so white even the planet is

Checks out.

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>>52586319
sure they are.
As white as argentina.

>>52584762
I've been assuming a repaint of Zoe and Pi-Well, but I've seen a lower tech interpretation as well. If none of the usual S1 models seem to fit, I could see using any number of third party robots or droids: Prepaint Star Wars, the Rezolution Bombots, GZG's or Khurasan (I think; may be Rebel) 15mm gun drones on tracks or wheels,or even more obscure stuff.
For the three ALIVE humans on the cheap, I might look at the old Haqq Ghulam, Nomad Alguacil or other cheerleaders, or a mix of cheap line to give that motley look.

>>52585813
>being intelligent and canny individuals
>with degrees both technical and liberal!
>being intelligent and canny individuals
>with a liberal arts degree

Pull the other one.

>>52586308
The entry on Duroc (of Equipe Mirage 5) notes that he's unusual for being able to fly without freaking out or needing sedation.

>>52587378
yeah, but only because he gets a blowie joey from Margot while onboard.

>>52586717
his feet are super goofy-looking but the overall mini is nice and the profile is so good that I'm tempted to start HB just for him but can't stand them for their efforts to destroy Europe

>>52587314

You know economics, history, and PHYSICS are Liberal Arts right?

>Academic areas that are associated with the term liberal arts include:

>Arts (fine arts, music, performing arts, Literature(language arts))
>Languages
>Linguistics (more often considered a science in continental Europe, e.g. at Leiden University)
>Mathematics
>Natural science (biology, chemistry, physics, astronomy, earth science)
>Philosophy
>Psychology
>Religious studies
>Social science (anthropology, economics, geography, political science, sociology, history)

>>52587477
Don't really know where that is the case, but where I went to school all STEM degrees are science ones

Also as someone with a BS in chemistry I resent it being referred to as an "art"

>>52587606
Science is more art than science, Morty. A lot of people don't know that.

>>52587606

Basically everything is an art. I mean, the definition of the term is 'a skill at doing a specified thing, typically one acquired through practice.' That's why Martial Arts is a term.

>>52587647
Tell (burp) tell that to your touchy-feely students you flower-crown weaving hippie
I- I- don't even know who could put the idea in your head that science is supposed to make you feel shit other than pride in the fact that you're making reality your bitch
It's a means to an end
And that end is that fucking Mulan mcnugget sauce

>>52587701
The only real distinction is invented by insecure STEMlords to explain why the world owes them a good dick-sucking for being so smart and ~visionary~.

>>52587701
art1
ärt/Submit
noun
1.
the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power.
"the art of the Renaissance"
synonyms: fine art, artwork
"he studied art"
2.
the various branches of creative activity, such as painting, music, literature, and dance.
"the visual arts"

>>52587741

I too can look at google! Look at #4 on that list. I quoted it.

>>52587736
>STEMlords

Holy shit is that a thing now? Hating on people for being objectively smarter?

>>52587769

No, we're hating on people who are so insecure in their intellect they have to bash people who could very well be just as smart as they are, but chose to express it in a different field.

>>52587769
>objectively smarter

Homie, I have some bad news for you. It turns out people who are actually smart and doing interesting things don't have the time or flexibility to suck their own cock on the internet.

>>52587769

Nah. Just hating on people who are dumb enough to use the phrase 'Objectively smarter' to describe a uni course.

>>52587784
>who could very well be just as smart as they are, but chose to express it in a different field.

If you are so smart, then you wouldn't express that in a different field (that doesn't pay) in the first place.

If you aren't in STEM, then you aren't really a person. More like a thing that exists solely to suck off society's teat.

>>52587836
This, boys and girls, is why people invented the term STEMlord.

>>52587836

Got it. People who are not in Liberal Arts are scum.

>>52587836
Uhhh or you could you know be something like a Clinical Psychologist a Social Science, considered one of the "Arts" in some cases

>>52587836

You know MEDICINE isn't a STEM field, right?

>The US National Science Foundation, the primarily US STEM funding agency, states:
>As described in our strategic plan, NSF is the only federal agency whose mission includes support for all fields of fundamental science and engineering, except for medical sciences.
>https://www.nsf.gov/about/what.jsp

>>52587851
>people
None of you are real.

>>52587836
>If you aren't in STEM, then you aren't really a person. More like a thing that exists solely to suck off society's teat.

Well that's good to know, friend; I'm not in a STEM field. I'm an EMT. It's good to know that my extensive training in prehospital medical care and crisis intervention, as well as both medical and trauma emergency treatment techniques, is in fact useless, as it is neither a STEM field nor a full bachelor's degree or higher--the AEMT national certification level being a certificate level of education, not even an associate's.

It's nice to know that we don't really need people like me; after all, I'm sure most of hte people we save aren't in STEM fields either, and really, it'd be best for everyone if they just died in their beds of easily preventable illnesses or accidental traumas.

>>52587934
Well, duh. We're all figments of your imagination. Now be nice or we'll make you wake up.

>>52587917
>NSF is the only federal agency whose mission includes support for all fields of fundamental science and engineering, except for medical sciences.
Wouldn't want those augs running around.

>>52587934
How can people be real if our STEMs aren't real?

>>52587876
That's because they are just as much art as they are science. Applying scientific methods as a general principal but then having to wing it off of experience cause you can't take out a persons brain to see where its fucked up, usually.

>>52588001
Fuckin clankers.

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>>52588005
Whoa dude

Infinity general, all this arguing has caused us to lose our way. Let us talk of the important things again.

Like what the personality and backstory of achilles' dogface waifu should be.

>when you realize you have to suck government's/church's dick to get resurrection in any big faction
You know, maybe Nomads aren't that bad.

>>52588201
I propose she be a rough-and-tumble tomboy whom is completely open about the fact that she wants to molest him in many different brutal ways including pegging

This makes achilles actually uncomfortable

She is black, nappy-haired usariadnan and says stuff like "HEY GOLDY, WHEN YOU GONNA LET ME GET AT DAT DICK HUH!?"
"COM'ERE BABY, MAMA GONNA TREAT YOU RIGHT"
"HEY HOMEBOY, I'MA BEAT DAT DICK UP! HOLLA AT YA GIRL!"

>>52588313
I'm not sure if Achilles would be uncomfortable with pegging. I mean, he's originally greek, buttsex was pretty common.

>>52588353

Yeah, but Achilles is older than 12.

>>52588434
Ah, so it should be a tiny, spunky dogface girl (boy) instead?

>>52588353
>>52588434
I think its the aggressively stereotypical black american that would be the uncomfortable part, when attached to a werewolf as strong as him in power armor. Give her a name like La-a, my sides are in orbit anon.

>>52588521
Hereby formally requesting Sha'qwonda the dogface

>>52588595
Sha'qwonda the Dogface, USAriadnan Devil-Dog and Achilles Fangirl, professional soldier and Dom. I like it.

>>52588521
>aggressively stereotypical black american
pls no

>>52588819
What's wrong baby, don'tcha want mama ta take care of you? Take off yo pants

I SAID TAKE YO GODDAMN PANTS OFF WHITE BOY, I'MA GET AT DAT DICK

>>52587851
Nobody invented the STEMlord, we merely named the emergent phenomenon that stems from basically illiterate idiots scraping up 2.0 GPA Engineering degrees from mediocre schools. That's what happens when you grade on a curve. They are an accident. Not every accident is happy.

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WiP

>>52588313

Only if she has a piece of equipment granting MSV2--called Weave.

>>52590045
What weapons shoudl she ahve? standard dog warrior loadout of 2x chain rifle, smoke grenades, APCCW and pistol?

>>52590254
How about an E/Marat or something to immobilize hunky power armored blond men?

>>52590682

E/Marat and arkylat-kanone, with an EM CCW?

>>52590744
If only there was a glue template weapon

EM CCW for sure, maybe even EM2

>>52590883

Alright, so. MSV2, loadout of E/Marat, Arkylat-Kanone, Pistol and EM2 CCW. Standard dogwarrior stats. Any special rules or other equipment she really needs?

>>52590907
Natural Born Warrior

>>52590907
I demand eight nipples

>>52587942
That's awesome. I am a certified first responder (red cross) and have often thought about getting my EMT but just don't have the time (working on a PhD in, you guessed it, a stem field).

That said, I disagree with the original poster that only STEM matters. I will say though, that people who get:

Ethnic Studies
Gender Studies
Sociology
Art History
anything pre-law
etc.

are human leeches whose existence literally makes the world worse for the rest of us.

>>52586309
Neat.

>>52591453

<"Hi, I'm a philosophy major"
>That's terrific. I'll take a double espresso mocha, skim milk.

>>52585521
Is this some Mandela Effect shit, or am I being memed on?

>>52586196
A Core can be firmed with minimum three Troopers.

So you need 3 Wu Ming, or 2 Wu Ming and 1 Zhanying. You could also include up to 2 more Wu Ming.

You can include as many Wu Ming and Zhanying in your Army List as AVA allows, and change up your Fireteams midgame per the Fireteam creation rules. So you could leave your Zhanying out, and bring him in once a Wu Ming goes down, or alternately pack more Wu Ming to fill in if the Agent snuffs it.

>>52592452
That changed with N3, core can be 2 people

May Releases from Mayacast
-Minutemen Box
- Dactyl re-pack (Engineer plus Doctor w/ two Yudbots)
- Zerat repack (old Zerats)
- ORC repack (old HMG + BSG)
- Major Luna
- Gorgos Pilot
- Gecko Pilot
- O-Yoroi Pilot
- Outrage without Knauf mini

>>52593196
Orc Box confirmed ded

>>52593196
9 releases in a single month?

Oh wait, three repacks and a manga so just the normal five. At least we know why Giraldez was repainting some ORCs recently

>>52593220
Playing PanO is suffering

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>>52593196
>Major Luna
Did we really need another character sniper no-one ever fields?
I mean, she's hot and it's a good mini, but it seems like wasted effort.

>>52593294
Who knows, maybe shell be amazingly optimized as a Viral Sniper rifle platform who possibly works for ISS. She could have MSV2, Camouflage, and Sixth Sense for all we know

>>52593196
Re-packs are fucking shit. Other releases are pretty neat, though.

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>>52593253
>>52593220
The old ORC sculpt with the BSG holds up nicely, but the HMG one has such a odd pose, it's pretty hard to bear.
I mean, from the front it's sorta alright, but from the side it's super awkward.

>>52593349
I really hope she doesn't have MSV, we already have tons of it. Give me a half decent ARO sniper without breaking the bank, and I guess I'll be happy.

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>>52593253
>mfw when NCA and MO
That's alright, it's not like I wanted to play anything but ASA. Those Bolts? Oh, I just had them lying around, there's no reason why they're lovingly painted. And do ignore the teuton/sepulchre based knight force. They mean nothing to me.

>>52593477
Fine then, Marksmanship L2, Sixth Sense, Camouflage Sniper with at least BS 13.

>>52593349
>MSV sniper
Oh wow, wake me when anything interesting happens.

>>52593582

I play Yu Jing.

MSV Sniper, sure please.

>>52593550
And then
> Kinematika level 2
> Bioimmunity
> Veteran Lvl 1
> Paradmedic
> Repeater
> Tinbot B
> D-Charges
> Dual Wield Shock and AP CCWs

40+ points. I just feel it in my bones.

>>52593449
I like it, it's a typical PanO HMG pose. I think she looks nicer than the BSG one.
I dunno if I should get BSG ORC now while she's still in a single blister or wait for a box that may come eventually... I never play the BSG profile anyway, but I'd like having ORCs for Haris.

>>52592369
It's the second/fourth verse. The first and third ones have 'we're a happy family' instead.

>>52593294
Maybe she'll synergize well with ISS. At the least, she'll replace my Lasiq model.

>>52593449
>Holds up nicely
Only in height, but looks super ugly next to the new ORC. It's also fucking retarded, to resculpt the ORC for N3/Icestorm, then show the new Varuna Dossier, and then fucking think those repacks should even happen. I would have been less offended if they were simply discontinued. Also fuck the Zerat Repack

>>52593548
Joan and Hospital Knights are suppose to be out this year probably before gencon

>>52593294
How does she stack up to the Lasiq equivalent?

>>52593923
ORCs were prime for a box: they have 3 profiles not in the modern range (BSG, HMG and AHD) and a tinbot. I was looking forward to PanO tinbot.

>>52593923
Hospitallers can go suck my dick. If the fact that they weren't the most boring order wasn't bad enough, the idea that I must make use of one of my order allotments to field at least one of them if I want a magister link is dumb as shit.

>>52593923
I still like the old ORC sculpts...

>>52593929
We don't know shit about her, so how would we compare her?

Do you normally field posthuman teams as button pushing objective grabbers or a squad of heavies?

>>52590944

Yeah, anything that's already on a dog warrior should stay, of course, NBW included.

>>52591111

That goes without saying, senor quadro.

>>52594037
They were. They will most likely still get a box. Which is why I think the repacks are fucking retarded

>>52594087
No it's not. It really improves the Magister link. Gives magisters a high burst weapon and/or specialist. Also they can be accompanied by Santiagos if Hospitallers are just SO boring to you.

For me I just want to run a Joan+Hospitaller list. It's the only thing that interests me in MO.

>>52594370
Mk.1 + Mk.2 AHD + Mk.5 FO
The heavies are actually rather lackluster, I'm not sure why they don't get any skills while the other three get value up the butt. It's a shame, too, because the Mk.3 is one of my favorite Aleph models. Perhaps when OSS drops they'll start seeing more play since most of the heavies that outclass them are Steel Phallus.

>>52594396
Usarf marines dont have NBW, neither do kazak doggos

>>52594037
I'm hoping for a new ML profile rather than a tinbot, it would fit in with every other generic boring HI.

They'll probably still get a box closer to the next book, which makes this repack even more questionable.
It's like they made the sensible decision of putting Dactyls into a support pack, but then decided to grab a couple of other random units and repack those as well. Very strange.

>>52593614
>no executive order
>no automedikit with PH10
>no hyper dynamics
Weak

>>52595810
Think bigger. She needs Specialist Operative for another 0.5 SWC.

>Mayacast has the May releases:
>Minutemen Box
>Dactyl re-pack (Engineer plus Doctor plus two Yudbots)
>Zerat re-pack (2 old Zerats)
>ORC re-pack (old HMG + BSG)
>Major Luna
>Gorgos Pilot
>Gecko Pilot
>O-Yoroi Pilot
>The manga, no mini

>repacks of 10-year-old models
>no netrods for SP pack

>>52596741
Is the Bakunin wave over with the Grrls? I was really hoping for a new Zoe.

>>52596764
Nah, it's like the new Year Of Shasvastii - they just needed pilots.

>>52594606

The 1+2+5 seems to be the way to go. It's hard to stack up to infiltrating button pushers since they all roll to infiltrate as one unit using the 2's deployment rules then make the 5's fo move.

>>52586319
Isn't the majority of PanO indian followed by australians kiwis and brazilians

>>52587019
>cubans
>white
What is up with hispanic caribbean islanders actively ignoring huge parts of their heritage.

>>52596846
>they all roll to infiltrate as one unit using the 2's deployment rules then make the 5's fo move
Holy shit, how have I been missing this all this time?

>>52596741
>ORCs

boss, you are shitting me right?


RIGHT?

>>52597371

It's buried deep in the Jumper ruleset. That's why posthumans are such a fucking power piece. They can drop in and button push, or sit on a control point.

>>52587457
Why would the OMotM want to destroy Europe? He probably just wants to defeat Aleph or something boring like that.

>>52597261
Also Southeast Asians (more specifically islanders like Indonesians and Malaysians), the rest of South America, and Europeans.

>>52597637
>Southeast Asians (more specifically islanders like Indonesians and Malaysians)

So where would they will hole themselves into? Acoteminento? Varuna?

Hell, both are jungle fighters and sailors if you ask me.

The dominant language of PanO is laughably Spanish according to the RPG. I guess that means the catholic beaners outbred the curries.

>>52597301
Hispanic people can be white, you stupid piece of shit.

You can't even be racist right.

>>52597930
They probably run Neo Terra and the O-12. Don't you realize that America is already descending technologically, socially, and economically because the GOP fucked up our education system and created stupid trolls like you guys?

>>52598156
>defending pointless majors that don't add any benefit to human society.
If you want to matter, do something that actually advances our civilization. Philosophy and all of the so-called soft sciences don't do that. In fact, using quantum mechanics as an example, they actively delay the process.

So no, your degrees in "how to think" aren't as important as STEM.

>>52598302

Yeah. I suppose it's hard to day one liberal arts degree is more valuable than another. Have fun with yours.

>>52591453

Seriously, how did Sociology get seen as a shitty degree? Studying how groups interact and organise is really important for many fields like making good decisions in government or market research for companies.

>>52598344
All BAs are seen as shitty.

>>52598302

>Philosophy builds the toolset used in inductive and deductive logic, occasionally updating it
>All Scientific disciplines utilize these
>Better thinking tools lead to better science

What do you know about mathematical zero bitch?

>>52598352

Even when really damn useful? Heck, Sociology is a VERY statistical field. You need a strong mathematical basis to work in it.

>>52598344
Racist weeaboo philistines don't like it when people know exactly why they are racist weeaboo philistines.
>>52598352
By teh STEMlaurdes, yes, but they are judging all of the Humanities based on their one required remedial English course. It would be like people taking College Algebra and thinking it was the entirety of STEM.

>>52598344
All degrees are seen as shitty by someone. Some random insecure STEM guy on the internet isn't the grand arbiter of deciding what is or isn't a shitty degree.

>>52598344
I think it may be a two part problem. First it has the same issue as psychology where you aren't getting any relevant work done until you have a at least a Masters because everyone and their pet cat has gotten a Bachelors. PhD or bust, and if you are going to dedicate that much time to schooling you could go into a better paying field as a rocket surgeon or something.

Next sociology intro courses are overwhelmingly taught by liberals so there will be that skewed perspective. These are the same people who think all chemical names are scary and dangerous. And this was before SJWs were a thing, hate to think of that bullshit now.

>t. STEMlord that took a few sociology electives cause it was piss easy.

>>52598394
Im pretty sure the professors that teach the BA stuff couldn't handle that aspect.

>ITT muh superior hard science, bow to meeeeee plis ;_;

Remember that without the importance of soft/social science, we'll end up becomes bunch of anarchist degenerates wanabee ala. Bakunin cucklord even then, they're still needs a bunch of social personels to get shit done and keeps the ship from breaking appart

>>52598488
>Next sociology intro courses are overwhelmingly taught by liberals so there will be that skewed perspective. These are the same people who think all chemical names are scary and dangerous. And this was before SJWs were a thing, hate to think of that bullshit now
This is what this faggot actually believes.

>>52598357
>trying to validate modern philosophy by claiming it's equivalent to the kind practiced in ancient Greece.

When philosophy was useful to the modern world it was used as a catch-all term for all studies of the natural world.
Once we reached the point where we required specialists to advance our sciences, the term was discarded. Da Vinci, Newton, and their ilk called themselves philosophers but they had as much in common with modern philosophers as a bonfire has with a charred candle wick.

Also, what do you know about the prime wave theory of quantum mechanics, bitch?

>>52598695
>How can we read if we don't even words/=?

>>52598615
>belief

To paraphrase one episode of that nonsense

>They spray this chemical on fruit being shipped to super markets!
>its called ETHYLENE GAS
>I raise my hand and end up teaching a whole auditorium that ethylene is a natural plant hormone to signal for ripening, just cause something has a funky name dont mean its bad.

>>52598740
Again. Ancient philosophy =/= the bill shot waste of funds that is modern philosophy.

Anthropology is more useful than that shit.

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Inching to completion. Just missing the sword and the base basically.

>>52598757
Spraying synthetic ethylene gas on unripe fruit to make it look ripe in the supermarket is bad, though.

>>52598776
Modern philosophy stopped in around 1760, when the Modern period stopped. You only believe that you know what you are talking about. You don't.

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I will take on the extra thick version sooner or later.

>>52598808
inb4 you read a wikipedia article and believe that you understand what I am actually saying about the inception of postmodern thought.

>>52598808
>synthetic ethylene gas

What the fuck? Its literally just 2 carbons and 4 hydrogens, doesn't matter whereit came from, and can be easily made from ethanol.

Now shipping unripe fruit and then blasting the outsides to make it look ripe, well, that's kinda a dick marketing move but nothing out of the ordinary. Why do you think one bad apple spoils the bunch?

>>52598896
The chemical model doesn't matter. The fact that they ship unripe fruit that nobody would buy without synthetic gas being sprayed into the trucks, and that you think it's nothing out of the ordinary is a huge problem with industrial capitalism turning farms that should be producing healthful food into scam factories and a symptom of the general overapplication of reductive scientism.

When you believe in scientific models, you have failed being a scientist.

>>52598488
>Next sociology intro courses are overwhelmingly taught by liberals so there will be that skewed perspective. These are the same people who think all chemical names are scary and dangerous
Oh don't worry, there are stupid misinformed people who fear chemical names everywhere on the political spectrum. You'll never escape them.

>>52598896
>that's kinda a dick marketing move but nothing out of the ordinary
desu that's the real problem. Tricking people into buying inferior products is the commonly accepted way to do business, and that's shitty.

>>52598938
>>52598938
You either ship unripe fruit, then give them a bit of a nudge so you can sell those bananas for 79 cents a pound or you ship ripe fruit and not sell anything cause that shit has decomposed.

When stuff is in season, hell yea go for that its great, but if you want more variety or things not in season cause its goddamn winter and things grow nicely in snow, there is a compromise to be made.

>>52599036
Or you freeze ripe fruit.

People like you love false dichotomies, too. You are an in-the-box thinker within the current paradigm, and that makes you employable because you can use the intellectual tools that are currently profitable for your Capitalist masters, but you would flounder at the attempt to create new tools and to do things in new ways.

>>52598757

>get sold unripe fruit made to go through the appearance of ripening without the nutrient intake of being attached to the original plant
>all this elaborate shit so that an agricongolomerate can take advantage of cheap labor and CAFTA agreements to sell me fruit in the off season

Either get it to me fresh and take the thinner profit margin or don't get it to me at all.

>>52599067
Freezer burn dude, thus more product lost, then you also have even shorter shelf life to deal with. Plus I am not in charge of market forces. The public wants cheap bananas, the public will get it, even if we have to crush legitimate governments for it to happen.

Know what happens when we'd try it my way? People throw a bitch fit cause there is a fish gene in a tomato to make it have a longer ripe shelf life.

>>52599096
I feel you anon, but the frigid north is bullshit.

>>52599112
Freezer burn only happens in consumer-grade frost-free freezers because they periodically thaw. I thought you understood everything that happens in the world around you Sir STEMlord?

>>52599096
That's respectable. But the problem is that most people have tunnel vision for shit like that, or they just don't care. They want their fruit in the off season, they don't give half a fuck how it gets there, and they'll get mad if the supply goes away.

>>52599133
Hey mang, the other anon is not currently being a dick at this juncture. There's no need to be a dick to him.

>>52599196
>tone policing
Thanks for letting me know that I won, Anon.

>>52599133
You trust some south american being paid 18 cents for a whole days work to properly store food thats going to another continent? Then you trust that they will not defrost and be refrozen from the multiple places where they get shipped from/to? Where have I even implied I know everything? Hows that arts degree treating you? Get back to making my coffee.

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>>52599209
Hook, line, and sinker, anon.

Get madder, faggot.

>oh shit I got BTFO
>I was only pretending to be retarded

How can these brainlets even compete. And its Master STEMlord to you.

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>>52599241
>he thinks he won the debate

>>52599112

Not frigid. We have a growing season. South hemisphere has a growing season.

>>52599196

Yes, but getting it fresh means getting it timed correctly if by sea transit or transported immediately and paying the difference in air transit of bulk goods. I'm as mad at the people who want to have their "fresh" fruit and eat it too as I am mad at the corporations that engage in shit polishing to sell to that crowd.

Can people stop circlejerking, like 90% of these posts aren't even close to anything doing with infinity.

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How viable BSG ORC is anyway? For 35pts a BS14 ARM4 HI seems like a steal.

>>52599278

It's /tg/. No thread ever ends up being about the original subject.

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>>52599259
>he thought it was a debate

>>52599278
Actually all this talk about south american fruit made me think about banana spiders. Which makes me wonder how fucking scary Acontecimentos analogues would be. Also do we have any info on food in the lore/RPG?

>>52599307
Wow, you are really up your own ass.

>>52598695

>prime wave theory of quantum mechanics

That it's based on a deductive case built on inductive cases built on data collected through methods designed by philosophical advances.

Also I know that the existence of what may or may not be time crystals basically disproves waveform theories of causality, which are a shitty model that took on popularity based on their ease of dissection to a mid-level understanding of calculus.

>>52599319
Would you rather me to be up yours?

>>52599205
Congratulations on your victory anon. You caused a somewhat civil conversation to nosedive into moronic name calling at a quite impressive speed. You can be a dick if you like, I'm not going to stop you. I just thought to inform you that it's unnecessary and probably counterproductive right now.

>>52599209
>You trust some south american being paid 18 cents for a whole days work to properly store food thats going to another continent?
No, but I'd also rather pay a bit more for fruit that was made in my country. Hell, I'd settle for competently trained foreigners with acceptable working conditions. But then that's its own problem.

>>52599283
Eh, you might as well pay for a better gun like a multi rifle or HMG if you're already paying that much. Good for haris though, shotguns are always good link team weapons.

>>52599342
Casual racism is civil conversation?

>>52599292
>ignorant

>>52599342
>No, but I'd also rather pay a bit more for fruit that was made in my country. Hell, I'd settle for competently trained foreigners with acceptable working conditions. But then that's its own problem.

That shits a whole other level of fucked up.

>>52599356
It should be. If someone wants to call me a milk drinking cracka ass potato nigger there should not be any social repercussions. Getting more and more creative with insults is a high artform.

>>52599356
I can see a bit of what could possibly be casual racism in >>52599209, but that seems to be more rooted in low expectations of underpaid and generally mistreated workers in South America rather than anything to do with race. And that was after the post where you started being a dick anyway, so what it is or isn't is irrelevant.

There's plenty of actual blatant racism that goes on in these threads, just wait for it to show up again if you're so gung ho about it.

>>52599307
>do we have any info on food in the lore/RPG?
The new Lifestyles chapter has this:

FOOD & DRINK
Everyone needs to eat, even frontline operatives. Groceries represent the routine purchases that keep the larder filled and the palate wet; they’re generally what people grab out of the refrigerated niches built into the walls of their homes. Meals are bought from vendors or restaurants. When indulging in a meal of a higher quality than normal for the character’s Lifestyle, the Cost represents the bill for a small group of friends, business associates, or the like. Treating someone to a more extravagant meal than they’re used to may allow a character to generate bonus Momentum on social skill tests (at the GM’s discretion).
People like to say that, no matter how much the Human Sphere changes, food always stays the same. But that’s not entirely true: those in the Middle class commonly have access to interplanetary imports, greatly varying their diets and also allowing gourmands to appreciate the distinct flavours that arise from subtly different planetary biochemistries (such as the unique flavour of rice from Shentang, which the Yu Jingese describe as “floral” and PanOceanians dismiss as“sickly sweet”).
Among the Upper classes, exotic foodstuffs—
particularly those from non-terrestrial plants and animals—are common fare. They also enjoy nanonic-locked alcohols that can be quantronically triggered to prevent hangovers or purge your buzz (if you suddenly need to sober up).
Elites enjoy dishes which are custom-designed for the individual palate (based on genetic sampling and analysis of taste receptors).
Finally, Hyper-Elite cuisine is not distinguished
so much by unique food or drink as it is by sheer quality and exclusivity: restaurants which take weeks to obtain reservations for. Custom-tailored, multi-sensual experiences which accompany the dining. Old Earth liquors. Perhaps foodstuffs or drinks which are, technically speaking, illegal.

YOU! How do YOU, during actual play, take out TAGs? I see so many people claiming that various soft counters in their list are TAG stoppers, but many of these claims seem dubious.

>>52599570
Musashi eats tags like a shonen protagonist eats food.

>>52598203
are you retarded? when did I imply that hispanics couldn't be white. I'm saying genetically hispanics hailing from the caribbean have a greater percentage of being racially mixed between indigenous, white and black yet only about half claim actively claim that heritage.

>You can't even be racist right
I'm not the one looking for white pride worldwide in a fictional furry killing simulator made by a bunch of spaniards of all people.

>>52599570

My TAG eats TAGs, sometimes with a camo hacker's help.

>>52599570
Supposedly an active TAG is pretty decent against reactive turn TAGs.

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Reminder that all that shitposting started with a comic about wanting to have sex with Delphyne.
Do not sexualize the Sophosaur.

>>52599526
Thanks. Pretty generic, but it does leave room to crank up some silliness.

>Perhaps foodstuffs or drinks which are, technically speaking, illegal.

Hannibal Lecter recreation running a black market restaurant WHEN?!

>>52599570
Hack the fucker. Is it a Cutter or similar and no hacking? I drop my Tomcat nearby and use a flamethrower, tags cant dodge for shit and fire eats camo. Then use feurbach/ML/anything with AP/EXP/DA.

Use an Iguana against other manned TAGs for lulz. Get into repeater range of a Guija, use wall hacks and expel pilot, turn the corner and barbeque the pilot.

I dont like leaving home without a feuerbach Tsyklon as it is great on the active and reactive for armor hunting.

>>52598808
>You only believe that you know what you are talking about. You don't.
Friend. The fact that you insist I can't understand the value of philosophy as a discipline argues my point for me. It currently adds nothing to society.

I admit that my phrasing may have been misleading, however. Modern, as is clear by the context of our argument, means current (as in is currently "taught" & developed at universities).

>>52599570

I use amostly camo Aleph list with a Marut Lt. If they go for the TAG they get picked apart by camo, if they go for my infiltrators the TAG picks them apart.

>>52599526
Yeah but where can I find a Morat steak?

>>52599570
Assault hackers are my bread and butter for anti-armour work. Occasionally if I'm feeling lucky I'll try possession, but usually it's just carbonite. Giant robots are a lot easier to kill when they can't fight back.

>>52599739
Clearly we need to go back to musclegirls.

spetsnatz grill when

>>52599321
>Also I know that the existence of what may or may not be time crystals basically disproves waveform theories of causality,
Let me weigh in on this.

The fact that the E/M drive works, as proven in a peer-reviewed paper from NASA, provides some pretty convincing proof for the Bohmian/ prime wave theory, assuming that's the one he was referencing.

>>52599743
I imagine there's be more info in the faction books, and maybe Life in the Human Sphere.

>>52599570
I throw Achilles at them.

>>52599836

An HMG is less effective against ARM 8 than I'd count on.

>>52599853
Melee :^)

In all seriousness, I like my ekdromoi hacker for the lead in. Assault hacking & boarding shotgun.

>>52599307
>Which makes me wonder how fucking scary Acontecimentos analogues would be
Acontecimento named the old Exarh TAG caskuda. Named shared with some big cockroach like insect on Acontecimento.

>>52599853
Achilles has either an multi rifle or Spitfire. But yeah as >>52599883 said, melee.

Melee is a often a pretty good counter for them especially if they have DA, EXP, monofilament, or EM. Oniwaban and Speculo are famous for it and an Uberfall squad can easily eat a bunch of expensive HI before chomping down a TAG if not prepared for.

Missile launchers on TO or linked platforms can also counter hard.

>>52599570
I tend to run 1-2 hacking device plus in my lists. Also Morlocks with EM CC weapons.

Anyone have any models that could represent uhahu from the manga?

>>52599780
>Morat steak
Their biologic makeup includes mercury(II) oxide at levels that would be immediately fatal for humans. As such, it is banned from sale or export. If you have had "morat steak" it was a synthetic reproduction.

Note: the morat's innate toxicity to humans is why the suggestion to "Captain Kirk them to our side" was considered nonviable. Though we are more than willing to take dogface volunteers who want to die for the cause.

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>>52600355
It's very hard to find miniatures of children, especially not fantasy/medieval ones. I think your best bet would be to get someone to make one or use Billie from Hasslefree.

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What's being released this month?

>>52601190
No, what's next month.

>>52598344
Sociology is just economics and neuroscience without the rigor or data driven techniques and with shitloads of pseudo-science thrown in for good measure.

>>52601805

Have you actually done Sociology before? It's only neuroscience in the same way that neuroscience is chemistry.

>>52598776
Learning how to wipe your ass without your dick touching the seat is more difficult than an anthro degree.

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>>52599067
Have you done this? The water expands, destroying the cell walls. Ruins the texture.

>>52601832
Yup taken classes in both.

Sociology was the biggest waste of time in my college career. Pottery was a better use of my time because at least I made a mug.

Anyone see the Interplanetary missions? I am annoyed Show of force got in there, Cutters and Sphinx are way better than any other choice at that mission.

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>>52600355
Gromoz?

>>52601832
And the part about data is wrong too.

>>52601870
Cutters and Sphinx are way better than any other TAG, so it's not a surprise.
Pack E/M, AP and EXP CCW warbands.

>no Ayyar next month

I am disappointed

>>52599743
Some factions do not have access to flamers or msv2 or drop troops. So it is not always possible to catch the cutter on his off turn.

>>52602019
the only source of AP melee weapons in my army are wulvars and they die on sphinx active turn 1. I tried to run a link of them with McMarraugh and Cromwell for the only flamer in my faction. It did not end well, as on turn 3 Cromwell was runing around flaming my own troops.

>>52606876
Nobody said it was going to be easy.
Even an MSV2 TAG would have trouble with those guy.
And then a laughing Ghazi will just Jam them through a wall and shoot to bits at leisure

>>52606876
>the only source of AP melee weapons in my army are wulvars
what are Galwegians
hint: your best assault hackers
Also Cameronians, SAS, Uxia who can also D-Charge a TAG in CC.

>>52606822
Follow the comment chain anon, the question was how I do it. Ariadna has infiltrating/FD flamethrowers and E/Maulers, antipodes for sensors. Dunno who else you could be implying doesn't have either a good source of MSV2 or AD with something that can put a Cutter in a rough spot.

>>52607407
uxia is female, and cammeronians are animals and SAS are british not scottish. And I would love to use galwagians, if only some dude didn't buy every boxs that my store gets, just so no one can use them.

>>52607419
My ariadna has a flamerthrower on Cromwell, no maulers, no antipods, and the infiltrators are either british or female.

>>52607567
>>52607600
>all of this bait
>Calling William Wallace Cromwell

Just proxy for the highlanders then. You Eastern Euros are awful.

>Noob
>Want to play Aleph
>Have trouble listbuilding with them
>Somehow I can intuitively build good lists for Haqq, Pan-O, or Nomads

Is it just harder to learn Aleph?

>>52607567
>uxia is female, and cammeronians are animals and SAS are british not scottish
...rrrright. So, Lithuania, Russia, Czech countryside?
(not counting Poland because it's easy to buy Galgs online here)

>>52608037
Russian meta isn't as nearly as shitty as this.

>>52608377
Maybe Moscow meta isn't. I was thinking of the Crimean one.

>>52608470
Dunno about Crimea, but Moscow, Saint-Petersburg and some other cities are pretty neat. It's far from perfect, but nothing close to the polish horrors.

>>52608037
I don't think he's Russian, because I'm pretty sure he's the guy who said that russians are called fucks and he isn't russia so don't call him a fuck.

>>52607828

Vanilla Starter + Achilles + Aleph Support Pack gets you to 300pts with 10 orders.

Aleph has some of the best and toughest units, but doesn't have the option to NOT take said expensive, elite orders. This means you take Net Rods that are easily cleared by infiltrators (making you order light), or you take a bunch of overpriced cheerleaders that aren't going to budge.

Post Humans are OP apparently, but I have no idea how it works.

Good luck!

>>52608974

I'm not quite sure how their deployment works, but they all deploy at once as one trooper. I don't know if that means that I place all models when the mkII infiltrates or if that means that they all get to infiltrate on the same roll as the mkII.

>>52610301
>I don't know if that means that I place all models when the mkII infiltrates
This. Model doesn't have infiltration, model doesn't infiltrate.

>>52610311
This Special Skill allows G: Jumper troopers to deploy two or three Proxies, applying any Deployment Special Skills they might have (Airborne Deployment, Infiltration...).

>>52610311
>>52610354

Makes sense. I'm subbing a mkI and a mkII in for a sophotect so that I can have another camo shooter in my list.

>>52610354
>applying any Deployment Special Skills they might have (Airborne Deployment, Infiltration...).
Yes, to the model that has them. It means you can deploy 3 proxies at the same time (like in reserve) and any proxy that has AD/infiltration/whatever can use it. It doesn't grant infiltration to models that don't have it.

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GitS inspired list.

>>52610435
To clarify, here's the Spanish original:
>Esta Habilidad Especial permite desplegar entre dos y tres Proxies en la mesa de juego, *aplicando las reglas especiales de Despliegue en aquellos que las poseyeran* (Infiltración, Despliegue Aerotransportado...).
Direct translation of marked part says "applying the special rules of Deployment on those [Proxies] who possess them".

>>52610502
Needs more named characters for Section 9; unless, of course, you're just saying the setting/cyborg concept is what inspired it; in which case, where are your Deva Functionaries? :D

>>52610550

More from SAC season 1's last couple of episodes. The guys who came after Section 9.

>>52610502

If you're okay with eking by with barely 10 orders then it's good. Best not lose that TAG though.

I've got the next thread.

>>52611832
Is it any good? Can you share it, please?

>>52611862
Only because you asked nicely.

>>52611866
>>52611866
>>52611866

>>52611878
Thank you kindly.