Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

>>52541003
Tons of sisters and scions fall to chaos, you just never hear about them because when they fall they stop being sisters and scions!

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8E spoilers fuckin when

>>52540673
>>52540816
>>52540937
>>52540970

Right right, but how are the 301st Brellian Nameless meant to stay organised as a millitary unit?

Do they just exclusively go by rank?

>>52541018
There is only one case of SoB and zero cases for Scion.

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>>52541049

Loyalists coming through.

>>52541003
unlike the others GK will explode if corrupted by chaos in any way (how draigo doesn't explode despite becoming a daemon in all but name is beyond me). wait, scions don't fall to chaos? SoB are protected by faith (and i suspect the church wipes the records of anyone falling kinda like how Halo Spartans are only "missing in action")

>>52541019
serial numbers, earn a nick name, get a color

>>52541032
ugh i fucking hate her.

>>52541047
suggestion
as a squad is 9 dudes and a sarge each grunt is assigned a single digit no and a company name

so AAC 4 for 4th grunt of C squad of A company etc.
seargents get a double digit, signifiying greater rank
junior lt. triple etc

thats also the local name of the rank
double, triple, quadruple

>>52541047
Callsigns. Brellian Nameless contribute huge number of pilots to the imperial navy.

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>>52540991
Gotta love nurgle models, usually they show the highest painting level

>>52541132
Man that green is awful.

I fucking hate Chaos so much

>>52541081
I know want to run these guys as a small detachment, alongside Cypher, some fallen, and maybe a inquisitor with dubious henchmen.

Have an entire army of "we're totally the good guys, honest!"

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> Chapter symbol is an Ork glyph

>>52541211
make the inq malleus and give him a daemonweapon too

>>52541180
Why do you hate having fun?

>>52541132
>they show how easily people are confused by a few effects and will think a model is masterfully painted when they see some rust

>>52541081
>Alphic Hydras

100% loyal, would trust completely.

>>52541132

The base looks ok. The model looks decent too sans the poor dirtying effect.

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>>52541132
>rusty, non glowing plasma coils
ugh, kys

>>52541032
>8E spoilers fuckin when

Who cares, it's gonna be terrible.

>>52541244
Well you know they'll be the most competent and loyal scions until they are activated.

>>52541219
>when you get your lore and background info of 40k from 1d4

fucking kill me

>>52541272
>glowing plasma coils
You mean cold heatsinks.

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>>52541273
Well at least it will be better than 7e. It's not like you can make anything worse than 7e

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Still looking for some pointers

Psykers each in kataphron for prescience/divination, coteaz is there for interceptor and seizing initiative, Cawl will join a unit of Kataphron with the Dominus and the whole unit will get skyfire/tankhunter/monsterhunter every turn

I'd go with the War Convocation but I'm watering it down slightly.

>tfw the 7 alliances will never come true

>>52541338
how many times are you gonna post this for fucks sake man just try it out.

>>52541049
Lots of SoBs, but only one turned willingly while serving.

Casts a hungry shadow has several ex-SoBs turning to chaos.

>>52541388
Sorry, I'd try it out but I don't have everything as of yet. Posting on the off chance somebody here is familiar with cult/skit

>>52541229
Yes, I'm totally not a chaos lord....nooooo, not me ;)
My metallic blue armour? oh, truesilver, daemon protection.....yes

>>52541320
>heatsinlks
>that glow gree
m8, they are plasma coils
and they glow green, blue or pink

>>52541408
Still not a 50% chance to fall

>>52541465
It's literally a meme than went viral within GW's own studio.

>>52541409
I am and I don't think it's good. Onagers are great, plascal are great, infiltrators are great, you don't need psykers, and you should be running 10 man squads. and get the marines out of there. You clearly just want to be WAAC but don't want to be obvious about it.

>>52541441
there is a story about an inquisitor spending his life hunting down an AL dude.
in the end he is killed and replaced with an identical double

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I've been building this list since the latest Dark Angels Book came out. Can anyone tell how my list will do against others? I haven't used them in a game yet.

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>>52541495
do you got any proof. cos that stinks of shit.

>>52541081
>Debating about if I want to start up a Scions army or go for a Renegades and Heretics force

Problem solved. They're even red like I was planning

>>52541330
>It's not like you can make anything worse than 7e
GW : "Hold my drink"

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>>52541272
Just like in my British cartoons.

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>>52541581
GW internal consistency.

I'm sure you can find even more you you dig around older shit.

>>52541547
>Can anyone tell how my list will do against others?
grav cannon grav cannon grav cannon
grav gun * 4
and so on

i hope you will have trouble finding people who play against that shit

>>52541081
He even has a white weapon casing, just like my AL ! Just as planned

Imperium of Order: Space Marines, IG, Eldar, Tau
Destruction: Tyranids, Orks
Necrons: Necrons
Chaos: Chaos

Is surrounding a Baneblade with tanks (at least the exposed front half) my only option of giving it cover? I plan on having an ADL to cover the Lemans/Chimeras for some added durability.

>>52541707
bullgryn should be big enough

>>52541678
I see Aeldari and Tau in separate group - something like "allied xenos" or "reasonable xenos" as other anon called them

>>52541707
Buy those new crates, it's big enough to give a baneblade 4+ as its a building and it's cheap

>>52541643
I painted the plasma coils orange/yellow for my guys since I figured they were an actual containment unit of sorts.

>>52541643
>green, blue and pink
would'ya look at that

>>52541603
>litterally unable to create renegade scions until GW spoonfeeds him

>>52541539
It's all coming together, now just throw in a freeblade Knight of questionable allegiance. Then its all set

>>52541766
Also gold, silver and glowing orange.

>>52541864
not in that picture you silly head

>>52541496
Onagers are great as are plascal, infiltrators are good albeit expensive, I understand divination isn't needed on the kataphron but isn't it good?
>10 man squads
This goes against everything suggested to me so far, aside from the plascal squad. In the Convo I get it because you only have 2 troops to start out

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>decide to start putting serious work into my CSM
>have tons of magnetizing and building to do from shit like HH to Raptors
>want to have 1000pts in a fieldable position by Sunday
>spend 3 hours fixing up 5 year old daemon Prince instead

I think I'm fucked, fellas

>>52541678
fake, Necrons will be in the order alliance

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>>52541864
>>52541766
Even black.

>>52541472
Except modern marines don't have a 50% chance to fall.
The various new indoctrination methods were instituted after the horus heresy to ensure it never happened again, and as such comparing modern marines loyalty to pre-heresy marines is disingenuous.

Moreover, you're flat out wrong on it being 50%. Half the legions fell to chaos, but that was nowhere near half the marines. The vast majority or legions had loyalists elements, which is why stuff like isstvan III happened. That's HH fluff 101.

Stop spewing this retarded meme. Sisters are not better than marines because there hasn't been a sisters heresy, the two groups have two completely different circumstances.

>>52541726
Could I get away with having a squad of 6 slab shields + priest? Or maybe 3 + priest and a couple tanks to help cover the corner/sides. Would be pretty funny to have Obscured, +1 from slab shields and (if you could) Camo Nets on the big tank.

>>52541757
Haven't thought about that either, big cover crates giving a chance of something nice for my Guardsmen is also a nice bonus.

I honestly don't know which way to use a Baneblade (and variants). Moving and shooting sounds fun but a gunline seems more safe.

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>>52541643
Also various shades of metal.

>>52542040
Sorry i can't hear you over my non heretic army.

T3 for life!

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So, still no decent scan of core rules?

>>52542084
metal coils are the most sensible and also the most reliable

If they're glowing that means they're going to overheat.

My list has 2 wyverns in it in the Artillery detachment, and I want to take 3 mortars for shits and giggles.
I know mortars suck as and I could get another wyvern for 5 point more, but are mortars effective in any way or am I wasting 60 points.
S4 is not bad

>>52541914
I would regard the lack of onagers as a serious problem, those s10 blasts of the NL are really nice on armor (100% chance to pen a rhino while its still in your opponents deployment zone) and those plus the heavy stubber are great for wiping squads.

divination is good but you're jumping through a lot of hoops to get it. I'd rather have more dakka.

You can make an argument that the 10 man squads aren't necessary on the arc rifles because shooting at vehicles 70% of shots are wasted vs 60% for a 5 man, but youll find theyre too fragile. Why not give the alphas in arc squads the arc pistol? you'll want to be closing to 12" anyway for rapidfire.
5 man squads on the barebones vanguard is pointless. They'll get shot off objectives too easily and they don't put out enough firepower to be much good.

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>Roboute wakes up
>this really pisses off Mortarion and Magnus despite him never interacting with them during the Heresy
>Lorgar, his most bitter nemesis, continues to chill in the Warp

>>52542162
Wyverns are literally better in every single way desu

>>52542186
I'll make another list for you to critique if you're still around; Is Cawl even worth taking?

>>52541643

It's just the rule of cool.

They'd be blue if we were being realistic but whatever colour acts as an accent on a model is the right answer.

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>>52540991
aeiou

>>52542153
why is that scout smacking that poor ork around?

>>52542216
But wyverns aren't as cool as 2 dudes using a tube that shoots bombs

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>>52542112
>lalala i cant hear you no sister has ever fallen to chaos

>>52542084
>what is paint?

>>52542199
Lorgar got too many daemonic dicks in him to notice anything else.

>>52542199
Lorgar is busy creating new chaos armies such as Chaos Orks, Chaos Eldar and Chaos Sisters

>>52542040
Stop spamming about Sisters, the latest leaks say they're not even on the radar for 8e.
GW needs to just squat them already.

>>52542253
Even the other ork is surprised

>>52542225
*dial-up noises*

>>52542276
>>52542283
tell me more crone of the warp

>>52542264
I absolutely agree and they need to change it.

Take them for rule-of-cool, you're running two wyverns anyway. One thing I didn't think of is that it might be easier to hide mortar teams than to hide a wyvern.

>>52542112
>T3 for life!
>implying T3 armies can do anything but fail.
T3 armies let cadia fall. T3 armies fucked up the imperium. T3 armies created the ignorant, oppressive hellhole that the imperium now is.

With RotP, T4 armies gave the imperium new hope, a chance at not all dying to chaos, and at some semblance of innovation and progress. And that's all in just one book.
T4 armies are the sons of the emperor, who's blood runs through their veins. T3 armies are mooks who die so that the main characters of a novel can save them.
T3 fags are the worst.

>>52542221
>blue
>realistic

Plasma weapons are most often said to use hydrogen fuel and hydrogen plasma has a pink colour to it.

>>52542253
>I FUCKING 2

>>52542283
lorgar is busy being a faggot

>>52542218
he's tough but without Eternal Warrior he's not that tough. Good distraction carnifex for sure or rapes vehicles if he can get in range. He's such a cool model that from a hobby perspective he's definitely worth $30.

>>52542218
Not the anon you're talking to, but I too would like to know if Cawl is worth taking vs a TPD in my War Convocation, as there's only one spot for either of them without taking an allied detachment

>>52542268
You do get paints in various shades of metal, do you not?

But would not make much sense to paint the coils, if the things get super hot. Any paint on them is gonna just fry off. Better to just leave the coils as is.

>>52542285
>'e wuz a gud boy
>tryin ta get hiz life on track

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>>52542315
T3 army won the damocles. Twice.

>>52542342
Would you drop the Battle Congregation and take Cawl as the second HQ in a CAD?
>>52542346
Apparently Cawl is best used backed up by a Dominus for repairs but his weapon profiles are just ridiculous

>>52542370
maybe they just re apply it every time they go into battle

>>52542383
>'e only 'ad wun mor WAAGH til 'e got back to 'is li'l spores back 'ome *sniff*

>>52542394
>implying anyone fields T3 tau lists
If you want to make riptides T3 that's fine by me though :^)

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>>52542394
you posted the wrong T3 army

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kappa kappa kappa aeiou aeiou aeiou soi soi soi soi

>>52542443
>'e jus needed mo teef for dem programz

>>52542311
Yeah good idea.
Time to hunt for valhallan mortar teams, should be easy since no one uses them

>>52542221
Realistic as "it's a blue because se plasma si blue and it's a transparent housing"

Or "sci-fi metal able to heat to 7k degrees without vaporising thus become entering the blue-hot color spectum"

>>52542408
I don't like to run my skit as a CAD, but my lists are heavy on infiltrators and dragoons so I like the scout move.

Maybe consider swapping the battle congregation for an elimination maniple? Grav is kind of a must have in any competitive meta and the robots are really tough. You can add the TPD and Cawl if you like to the robot unit, and then pull Cawl out of that turn one and put him in with an arc squad to tank because he doesn't have enough synergy with the robots.

>>52541472
There are less Sisters than marines though.

>>52542370
>not painting everything with high-temp silver to prevent corrosion.

>>52542491
*binary screeching*

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>>52542253
He wants revenge for the 2 dead scouts.

>>52542550

The latter.

Really though it would probably just be white.

Bruvas convince me to not add on enough deathwatch and admech to make 1250 armies for each

>>52542561
I meant dropping the gravaphron out of the formation and then into a CAD, sorry

>there are only one million space marienes
in population of over a trillion i refuse to believe this. even if its cannon. thats just dumb

>>52542315
Anon marines and Primarchs are tools. The Emperor said so.

Your T4 is just a hammer to be use by the glorious T3

Also Cadian wound have not happen if you fucks didn't threw a tantrum because your "daddy" went back to the office.

>>52542199
Lorgar will dig the deepest trench ever dig by a daemon to hide from Guilliman, Lorgar knows that he'll never be as good as Guilliman.

>>52542491
"This is our warcry..."

>>52542595
How do you know they're not some corrosive resistant alloy?

>>52542677
lorgar will never be as good as a pile of dog shit

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>>52542694
its gdubs

>>52542637
Well acording to GW Militante Sisters have less numbers than marines and some how there is at least one in each church within the Imperium.

GW can not into numbers. What ever number GW gives it is safe to just multiply them by billion and it would still sound small.

>>52542689
brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbr

>>52542702
He is probably a daemon spawn instead of a daemon Prince, the last laugh the gods ever had from watching him fail so much.

>>52542720
>the ultimate necron warlord is bonzi buddy

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>>52542654
False! Cadia wouldn't have happened if Dregruk and Gathrog stopped fighting.

>>52541606
"IT'S NARRATIVE FORGING TIME"
"NO GW NO"

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>>52542598

>>52542769
id imagine theyd get along with the mechanicus adepts

>>52542408
I'd be running Cawl in an allied detachment from the War Convo, then. He doesn't really take any wargear and I can stick him with a 10 man of Vanguard.

Also, from what I'm seeing about the War Convo, it looks to me like one of the most flexible formations in terms of weapons and wargear (if there's a flyer heavy army coming at you, swap out the NL Onagers for some IA, etc.).

Are there any major pieces of info I'm missing on how a War Convo works, or is mostly just fill out the slots, slap on the free shit, and bring on a beatdown?

>>52542754
But anon Orks are less relevant than Tau.

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Flesh Teariers supplement anyone?

>>52542825
Necron vs AdMech Battlebots when?

>>52542893
gabriel seth is a faggot

>>52542893
Isn't spamming against the rules or something?

>>52542893
why not?

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>>52542920
Ammit is the only worthwhile one.

He however was enough for the entire chapter, Sanguinius' personal "no bullshitter".

>>52542920
Seconded
>hurrr Durr let's eat alive the guardsmen because we're so edgy
>wah wah why are the space wolves attacking us fucking bullies
,>wah wah why don't they accepuour apologies we just ate guards and some wolves
>no Ragnar we won't forgive your chapter for not accepting our apologies despite we didn't do it personally we just send some random serfs
Really fuck those guys

How do I play this thing? Also, will it cost a lot?

>>52542710
Are there a billion True Masters of Mankind

>>52543024
Makes sense. They just condensed into one.

>>52543019
Cheaper than golf. Of all the hobbies that require to buy stuff this is one of the cheapest in the long run.

I'm still using the same models I got decades ago. Can't say the same thing for my golf clubs.

>>52542990
If you're going to wield double chainfists at least also use a cyclone missile launcher to have some ranged options, bit then again Ammit was cool enough.

>>52543019
>will it cost a lot?
Yes.

Investment is on par with a gaming console.
Each box of models is comparable to a game in price and time invested.

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>>52542873
You pretty much hit the nail on the head.
I'm looking to play more TAC so I'm not entirely comfortable with taking the Convocation
If you take Memento Mortispex on your dominus you can give whatever unit it's attached to skyfire, tank hunter or monster hunter each turn. On Kataphron this is insane, no flyer can survive a salvo of skyfire grav from them.
>>52542561
Thoughts?

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>>52543065
Don't they require a target painter fist?
Or was that retconned?

>>52543078
>>52543064
Ah well, I suppose it would be nice to try.
I just need to find opponents.

>>52543019
>How do I play this thing?
Like most traditional games, 40k is an oral tradition. Go to your LGS and ask someone to teach you how to play; it's not only traditional, it's also a lot less overwhelming than reading the rulebook or listening to anons tell you how it works.

Is there a good place to get a bundle of Apocalypse templates now?

>>52543131
ur mum

>>52543114
What's an LGS? Local Game Shop?

>>52543167
Yes.

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>>52543167
local goth slut

>>52543234
kek

>>52543234
>publicly disrespecting an officer of the Officio Prefectus
Thank the Emperor for your anonymity, guardsman.

>>52543097
If you don't want to run a WarConvo but want to use those units, why not check out the Conclave Aqcuisitorius? It's not a terrible formation in terms of its bonus and still leaves some wiggle room for Coteaz.

>>52543328
it doesnt look bad but it forces me to take multiple dominus and breachers as well as some other stuff, I don't think I have the points

>>52542315
But Eldar are a T3 army.

>>52543389
Technically, you just need to take the Dominus for the Holy Requisitioner. Its minimum size with a Knight Gallant is 1520 points, so there's still some room to do stuff.

Was just a suggestion, though, since people so often ignore all the other big formations if they don't want to use the Convocation.

I personally really like the Cohort Mechanicus, but that one is unfortunately 1960 without upgrades and minimal size because it forces double Dunecrawlers, double Kastelans, those damn useless Electro-Priests and 3 Dragoons. Would be a really fun formation otherwise.
Though I guess why they'd tax it that hard. Having Doctrina Imperatives, Canticles, an extra Canticle and Doctrine and potentially also the Cawl Canticles now on your entire army would be incredibly broken.

>>52543390
>trying to debunk annon's argument about how t3 armies are faggoty.

>>52543390
No, they are a T4-8 army with some t3 options.

>>52543482
>Defending Marines. When they are constanly fagging up the setting.

Even if they are the poster boys they are the most boring part of 40k.

One side is programmed to be heroic, missing the point of heroism. While the other are just the chaos gods cumsluts

I just got annihilated by a tau at 1250 and his 2 riptides.

I had a squad of 3 centurions with LC/ML and it wasn't enough even though it was 20% of my point value. What should I use to counter those damn things?

>>52541049
>only one case of SoB WILLINGLY
Fixed that for you. Many sisters have been corrupted.

>>52543546
Play SoB. Deploy 6 Exorcist.

Or even better ignore them. Say you are playing 40k. So please remove your action figures from the table.

>>52540991
What is the state of doggos in the grim darkness of the 40k universe?

>>52543589
>remove your action figures from the table
I like this idea.

But seriously, what is a SM unit that I can use to deal with riptides?

I thought centurions were the answer, do they need a librarian with them or something?

>>52543546
>LC/ML
Take Grav guns.

>>52543616
I have four of them, too much to fit in a drop pod. Should I switch to grav and footslog or try to go with 3 in a pod?

>>52543610
Grav cents
Grav errywere

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>>52543606

>>52543606
Khorne has a bunch with no flesh, and they love him and he loves them, and his favorite one has three heads and it goes "Chaos Bork Bork Anger Rawr!" And likes to eat wizards.

>>52543633
Three with a librarian for Prescience is traditional.

>>52543540
Also there are the renegades.

>>52543633
>try to go with 3 in a pod?
And then spam it some more, that's how you do it, 1/1 centipods to riptide ratio.

>>52543610
Take Grav. Drop pod them in.

We all "play to win", but some people understood that as "win at all cost"

>>52543606
Feral/ravenous hordes/packs in hive worlds, mutated variants on death worlds, augmented/weaponized otherwise.
I imagine few are domesticated.

>>52543661
>Renageds
Cumsluts light.

>>52542253
hes really fired up™

>>52543661
Okay, I might try that.

>>52543673
I had heard that graviton centurions was BM, but after that thrashing I really don't care. Either tau is op or that was just 100% cheese list.

Is it viable to have libs/cents/maybe a captain in a LR crusader and rolling around as one unit with invis/veil?

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most yandere character/entity in the 41st millenium

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>>52543673
>>52543661
>>52543636
Amusingly, my local meta's basically given up on armour saves because of this. I've stopped taking much grav because they stopped making it worth it - everyone has cover saves, invuln saves, or just a shitload of dogs to take wounds for them. Pic related; it's what I'm dropping these days.

>>52543701
Lady Malys

>>52543707
Does it play as boring and repetitive as it looks?

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>>52543701

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>>52543701

>>52541547
scummy as fuck

>>52543697
Riptide are criminal undercosted and Grav is stupidly good. Even against bad saves the sheer amount of shots make up for that.

If you bring cheese units to friendly games, you are sad person. So you either never play with him and make sure the rest of place does the same still he stop being a waac.
Or you turn into waac.

In other words power gaming in 40k is retarded and sad. Specially in the mess of unbalanced shit it has

If I take centurions as part of a formation, and then in a separate CAD bring a fast attack drop pod, can I still put the centurions in said drop pod?

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>>52543741
All the excitement is brought by the other guy's army. Playing against it is fun for my opponents because removing stuff from the table is fun. Playing with it with me is fun because I can skip remembering things about my army and focus on figuring out what theirs is up to.

Still more fun than playing Necrons, at least.

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>>52543701

>>52543799

If the squad fits inside

If you have 4 or more they don't fit

>>52543806
>geez anon, I sure do love playing against your White Scars Gladius
>shit that nobody has ever said in the history of WH40k

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>>52543740
true but she kinda hates vect

>>52543754
he just wants to be bes chaos guy

>>52543758
kek yes

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riddle me this Rules Lawyers:

Can I take Guilliman as a lord of war selection for my CAD Astra Militarum list??

>>52543606
Every kroot kindred pack should have one birddoggo with them.

dow 3 open beta when

>>52542112
>doesn't know about Mirael Sabathiel

>>52543849
You don't need a rules lawyer, you need someone whose not an illiterate retard.

>>52543838
Yes, if I take 3 as the heavy unit in a sternhammer, can I slap then in the pod of a CAD that is another part of my list?

>>52543499
Isn't space marines then just T5 and AV army with some t4 options?

>>52543546

When will you morons learn to just not play with taufags

They keep doing obnoxious unacceptable bullshit like multiple Riptides vs elite armies at 1250 because you morons roll over and take it like cucks instead of punishing them for it by refusing them games until nobody wants to play them and they can no longer find games, or by smashing their face in in the parking lot

>>52543865
what book does it say it? i have the book and I cant find it

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>>52543842
Amusingly, my friend the Blood Angels casual player actually does like it for exactly that reason. The CSM player views it as a good thing to test against - you're going to see it in tournaments, so he likes getting games in against it before them - and the space wolf player is fine as long as he gets to run his wolves, like he has been since 5th.

There's a couple of other players who show up now and again, with varying kinds of CSM lists, and from what I can tell they're just glad to be able to try armies they've been theorycrafting for a while.

>>52543865
So "ask on another forum?"

>>52543873
The vast majority of Space Marine lists are overwhelmingly T4. The same cannot be said about CWE lists.

>>52543878
I am pretty new, so I didn't realize gundams were that strong

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>tfw you will never be a page/squire/choir boy in a sororitas convent that gets corrupted by slaanesh

worst feeling

>>52543878
I like the option of either telling them to not be colossal faggots.

Or just ignore their actions figures. If they won't understand reason and want to be waacfags they do not deserve respect. That goes to everyone.

If you are retarded enough to play tournaments you deserve the cancer

>>52543878
>getting raped in the showers daily for years because somebody brought riptides
Sure thing, tough guy.

>>52543946
>Implying that was not the plan

>>52543988
Bruh, if you want some cummies, just get a Riptide or two of your own.

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>>52543913
sounds hot sisters would be the only other army I would get if not for metal models....

>>52543907
>gravbikes&centurions codex
>majority T4
Sure boy'o.

is the vexilla a worthwhile upgrade for Custodes? Is it better for spears or swords?

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>>52544026
They're coming. Get onboard the hype train, friend.

>>52544028
So they outnumber demipodmarines?

>>52544032
Custodes want to be part of a larger imperial army, and the vexilla is a huge buff for imperial armies. I have spears on everyone except the character, who I give a sword and shield to, but you'll find it's a matter of taste.

>>52544061
worth putting a storm shield on the vexilla carrier?

>>52544053
I'm waiting for plastic SoB since WH. Along with plastic trench coat Guardsmen.

Never Hype
(Never Pre-Order)

>>52544099
Not at first, but once your opponents start understanding what he does for your army and target him, yes.

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>>52544053
as a filthy xenos eldar and slaanesh worshiper i've never prayed to the corpse emperor before but god emporer thank you for this gift

>>52544061
>except the character
You mean the shield-captain? All custodes are characters

>>52544123
That one, yes. The one I'm going to be shoving in front of ap2 weapons for challenges.

>>52544003
Or some second hand Eldar Falcon.

They sure got some fresh cum in there.

>>52541094
You shut your whore mouth!

8/20 grots painted.

I think il work on some models I can use for shadow war next, that or my tank bustas.

Shame it sold out in seconds, anyone got any idea if were going to see more?

>>52543888
Guilliman has the Space Marines faction (check the small icon on top of his page) so, unless stated otherwise (which it does nowhere) he's a LoW for Space Marines.

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>>52544128
What happened then was so wrong.

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>>52544205
You'd be surprised what kind of gunk you find on clothes you order online, even from reputable dealers.

Is this a good start to a "gravstar" type army? It feels like too many points to invest, hopefully it will be strong enough to stand on its own.

>>52544182
shit, thanks anon, you would be right but I found in the book where it says "he may be included in any Armies of the Imperium Detachment, regardless of their faction..." (page 118)

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anyone know when plastic sisters?

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>>52544288
Soon.

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>>52543606
Still around, though most likely heavily changed from any species of dog we know today.

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How's this for fluffy 1k? Any better way to arrange the wargear? Sisters have a place since there's a bunch of tzeench shenanigans at my local GW.

>>52544233
Use a Drop Pod. Guarantees they arrive at their destination and get their Blessings up before the opponent can really do anything about it.

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What are you anons working on tonight? I "finished" my friend's Bobby G. I'm just waiting for the spraycan of dullcote to arrive so I can spray, then add some blood and paint the gem on the Chaos dude.

>>52544288
8th edition starter box. Sisters vs Grey knights. My dad works at Nintendo and his boss knows a guy who works for the Queen of England and heard the Queen gave an order for GW to make plastic sisters happen.

>>52544288
A week after 4chan stops using >Implications

>>52544356
Ok I will see about doing that.

>>52544360
Persona 5.

I would be painting but I think I threw my shoulder out or something, tried to paint my ironstrider but it hurt. So I'm taking it easy.

Gonna buy another scout squad, both for regular play and for armageddon. I've already got one squad with 4 snipers and a missile launcher. Should I get another sniper squad or a regular squad?

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>>52544360
I did this, now waiting for the half-painted grots to finish being cleaned befor final gluing.

Then nothing cause my vehicle primer had a valve malfunction and emptied itself all over my balcony.

>>52544355
I feel like Flamers would be better than swords for the sisters if you could squeeze out the points, since you've already got a good amount of strong melee with the custodes.

>>52544360
Managed to finish converting a drop pod into a decent Dreadclaw proxy using a guide online. Was a bit tricky in some spots, but came out well. Now I've just got to paint up it and a couple more Chaos terminators and I'll finally be done with my backlog.

>>52544421
I'd say a regular squad. It'll give you more options for the Armageddon rules, and scouts with the standard weapon options aren't actually that bad. Better depending on your chapter tactics though.

>>52544430
Thought about that. It's pretty tight, flamers put me 15 points over, and there's not a lot that can be cut. I could lose the Vexilla, or maybe a couple storm shields, but that's about it.

>>52544516
I usually play Raven Guard or Dark Angels, if it makes a difference.

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>>52544360
Painting up some cultists for a friend of mine, and (slowly) finishing Voldus. Gilly is in the background, but im waiting for an airbrush and paints to come in to continue on him

>>52544288
St. Celestine already came out anon

>>52544569
I don't know if I want to work on Voldus next or some of my DE. Got Reavers or another Raider to paint.

>>52544521
I'd say you could sacrifice a couple stormshields without issue. After all, Custodes squads are all characters, so you can LoS the wounds to basically wherever you want. If it's high AP shooting, toss it to a guy with a shield, and if it's low, tank it with somebody in normal armor.

>>52544541
Can't really speak for Dark Angels, but Raven Guard scouts get a lot of benefit from first turn shrouded. Have them infiltrate into cover while they advance, and you could set up a second turn charge with melee and shotguns pretty effectively.

>>52544584
Not a SoB.

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>>52544356
This is the army I played with, modified to use a drop pod/gravcents. How does it look?

I don't feel like it is full on cheese, as cataphractii in a LR isn't the most WAAC thing in the world.

>>52544447

Mind showing a picture? I want to see how it turned out.

>>52543065
Amit has a stormbolter on each chainfist anon. They're even in the pic he posted.
>inb4 ">storm bolters"

>>52543105
More or less retconned at the point I think. I think the Terminator kit comes with a special head with a sighting lens though.

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>>52544360
Shitty picture quality because phone.

Working on details and weapons currently. Also got a Rhino and Vindicator that need drybrushing on the gold and another coat of blue followed up by all the non-blue and gold stuff.

>>52544360
Finished the silver bits on my Kastelans and their Datasmith.

Gonna have to sit down and do the red and white parts or at the least their bases tomorrow.
Fuck, that'll take so forever again.

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>>52544677
Sure. Sorry for picture quality.

I still need to clean it up in some spots, though it all fit together at least. The most work was getting the engine stable, though that was partly my inexperience with drop-pods as a whole.

On a scale of 1 to 10, how much would I be ridiculed for playing Ultramarines complete with a Bobby G centerpiece? I just really like the idea of Space Romans, y'know.

Anyone here know what units are playable in Armageddon for Space Marines, and if Scions are in the game?

>>52544909
In real life? Probably not at all. On here? We'll ridicule you for playing absolutely anything.

Just be sure to model Guilliman with his helmet.

>>52544925
You're gonna play Scouts, and you're going to like it.

>>52544909
Hold on, let me just fire up my psychic powers to first identify and then read the minds of the people in your specific club.

>>52544925
Pretty sure Space marines have scouts as their basic unit, with actual marines being the one-game-only specialists.

I'd also imagine Scions are in the similar category of one-mission only, though I haven't seen anything else for them.

>>52544932
Oh, of course, I wasn't sold on the figure until I saw that there was a helmet option.

>>52544925
Only scouts in the main team but not sure about one off hires.

Scions are one off hires for guard teams.

>>52544932
I like him better with the helmet, not person you are replying to btw.

I am that IF chick who got annihilated by riptides.

Does anyone know a good strat for building an army around lysander? Are SS/TH termies a must have for that?

I ask because I only have cataphractii models; I don't think anyone would mind the proxies but I like to go wysiwyg

>>52544942
Don't roll double 6's

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Alright you gits! Shootas, or Sluggas? Dis Blood Axe Boss wants ta know.

>>52544951
>>52544973
One off hires? Forgive me, I'm unfamiliar with the rules yet. Gonna learn Thursday.

>>52544995
Essentially, you get these promethium barrels for doing well in missions, and then can take specific models for the next mission by spending them. It's stuff like Terminators for Chaos, Stealth Suits for Tau, etc.

>>52544982
Shootas, for more dakka!

My friend is complaining about Daemon Princes of Nurgle being overpowered, is this valid? (Keep in mind he plays orks)

>>52544925
The not-necromunda or the vidya?

>>52545046
Everything is overpowered to orks.
Tell him to not only play the worst army in the entire game.

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>>52544360
>>52544834
Fuck it, everyone is posting images.

Gonna call these the Kastelans Oberon and Titania while the Datasmith will be called Robynne Godrfe.
Gonna need SOME fluff for my more important dudes, after all, and using something that makes me sound educated is always good.

What is the simplest change that could be made to the orks to balance them out a bit?

>>52545088
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING WITH THESE

>>52544909
Ultramarines are a pretty army if painted well, even if a bit bland. The only people actually making fun of you for it are the ones blindly following the 1d4chan shit.

>>52544982
Shootas fer regular lads, sluggas fer da sneaky boyz

>>52545088
This is probably the ta/k/ticool part of me, but those bots would look kick ass with desert camo.

>>52545108
Furious Charge gives +2 to initiative.

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>>52545120
They're fucking great. Blame Rogue Trader for their design.

>>52545168
It's ok it was a nice try

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>>52544861

Turned out as well as it could. It's just really different than a normal Claw. I already have one claw, and also have 2 pods that I'm not sure if I want to convert or chance just buying getting recast upgrade parts.

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>>52545088
So we are posting shit now?

This is my day to trigger /tg/

>>52545046
>>52545087
90% sure this is directed at me. If it is, this dude is lying.

He's playing against an unoptimized ork list, and an unoptimized deathwatch list: both with no fliers or anti air. He's taking a Daemon prince of nurgle as well as spamming psykers and pink horrors.

>>52545194
Yeah, if you already have one it's tricky. I mainly went for it because my shop had a sweet deal on the box with it and a 10 man tactical squad, and because I only really plan on using just one.

>>52545201
I don't see the triggering, anon.

Are those AoS or something? They look cool.

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>>52545143
Needs a "You vs The guy she tells you not to worry about" meme

>>52545222
Oh. Well if it was only the Daemon prince of nurgle as the strongest thing, I'd ordinarily say Mek Gunz could handle it. Orks could probably do okay against a mono-nurgle list, but that sounds pretty well optimized if he's mixing Tzeentch stuff and the prince is just there for Shrouded Jinks.

>>52544360
Not sure if it'll be tonight or later on in the week but I want to get to painting some of my old nurgle death guard/CSM as well as some good ol plaguebearers.

>>52545240
Count as Sisters of Battle.

I will not use white primer on this plastic again. That fucking shit ate Dream Forge plastic

>>52543946
>getting raped in prison instead of doing the raping

See? You're a total cuck.

>going to rapenitentiary for simple battery

>>52545265
Those armors are THICC as fuck, yo.

Better use some female heads instead of helmets for most of them.

New player here, I just picked up the Dark Vengeance set to get me started into the game, and I'm finally getting around to my first paint session.

Any particular tips to keep in mind? How much should I be thinning my basecoat?

>>52545222
dramabomb

If what you're saying is true you kind of lose the battle of rock paper scissors to begin with. One army is the opposite of elite and can't deal with much of anything and the other is one of the most elite; still with no answer.
You need to utilize allies. If you don't, both armies will lose most games. Just afterthoughts sadly. If you have no answer to something in a friendly game and you get smashed by it definitely ask him to take off the wings. It's not really fair to you if you're lacking the models.

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>>52545280
I did with the others.

White primer ate the plastic so everything looks odd and bad.

>>52545282
Get a bit of paint on your brush, put it on a pallete, dip the brush in a water cup, mix up the paint. That should generally be thin enough.

Watch one of Duncan's vids to get an idea.

>>52545311
Huh, weird. Never saw that problem because of normal primer.

Shame, because I really like those models.

>>52545311
Well, good to see you got female heads for them at least. That isn't really gonna trigger /tg/ though. That would only be triggering if you said you were going to try and make female space marines.

Ladies in power armor are A-Ok

>>52545311
I imagine the aerosol disagreed with a mould release agent or something still on the model. Rinse them in warm soapy water.

>>52545201
> Using chinacast bolters for your third party SOB.

>>52545279
>turn the tables on the rapist
>get shivved to death in a hallway by his gangmates
Well done, e-tough guy. Better luck next life.

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>>52545327
One of this days I'll finish the faces and painting.
See if i can save the fucked up primer.

No idea how it happen really. Vallejo White primer had a hate boner for that plastic. Because it worked fine on everything else

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>>52541219
Ha. Angry Marines. I see you're still trying to get memesters on your side, DOWIII.

>>52545367
Anon those are the real FW. The chinecaste are on the painted ones.

>>52545282
Check out Warhammer TV on youtube. Their painter, Duncan, is the patron saint of painting minis and gives a lot of good tips. As for how thin your paints should be, a good idea is basically to get some paint on your brush, put it on the pallet, then dip the tip of your brush in some water and mix it in. The proper thickness will come more naturally with experience, and don't sweat fucking up once or twice. No one's an expert starting out and Simple Green will strip paint from any mini without damaging it if you leave it to soak overnight.

Another tip I can think of off the top of my head is to save a wine cork and keep the arms and weapon separate from a marine's body if they're holding a two-handed weapon like a bolter across their chest. If you try to paint them fully assembled the gun will get in the way of getting to the chest details. The wine cork is so you can use poster putty to temporarily stick the mini to it so you can freely rotate it to paint every side without having to actually touch it.

Here's a quick link to Warhammer TV, and have fun with your dudes.

https://www.youtube.com/user/GamesWorkshopWNT

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How shit is this list, I'm not aiming for comp levels or anything

>>52541338
>>52541388
He's right you've posted this fucking list like 5 times.

>>52544975
>"Chick"
;^}

>>52545403
Pretty solid. You've got a flying nurgle prince for summoning, a decent bodyguard for a juggerlord with that relic axe (I assume he's with the bikers, since he can't join the spawn).

Only thing I might suggest would be 2 more autocannons on the havocs by cutting out one of the Nurgle spawn.

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>>52545375
This are my old BT. I love collecting squated armies.

>>52545403
>Nurgle Spawn
>Juggerlord
Oh-shit-nigga-what-are-you-doing/10

>>52542153
Probably because it's not out yet and the only people that have copies are store owners whom probably don't want to be blacklisted by GW.

>>52545444
He's going with the bikes

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>>52545440
Even older ones

>>52545440
>squatted armies
Don't make me cry, anon.

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>>52545430
:o

>>

How does this look for 1250?

The tool says vengeance of ultramar is 25 points but everything I can find says it is 20 so I don't think I am over the point limit like it says.

Tigurius with the gravcents in the pod, terminator librarian with the cataphractii, biker lib with the capt and bikes.

Scouts holding up on an objective somewhere, terminators pursuing heavy units/distraction carnifexing, gravcents dropping on riptides/etc, bikes clearing up stragglers.

>>52545254
Not really, the Orks have no real counter to it.

He can just jink all day for a 2+ cover on the ground and destroy anything short of a stompa in melee, Orks just have no counter other than just force saves.

>>52545108
Chargers attack first.

>>52545317
>>52545402

Awesome; I'll see what I can find, and hopefully get one or two of these guys painted by the end of the night. Very much appreciated.

>>52545368
>electronic-tough guy
>not turning into electricity as soon as someone tries to attack him

I'd wish you better luck in your next life but judging by your crippling autism and thinking someone telling you to rape prison inmates was being serious, it wouldn't do you any good.

>>52545485
Seems good though the termi squad looks kind of out of place
are you a tranny btw? If not do opponents treat you differently cause gril?

>>52545410
I did but every time I post it I get suggestions that more or less improve it like here
>>52543097

>>52545403
The chaos lord is best on a bike with the others which is a bit too small to survive very long, more bikes is better than raptors any time this edition, deep struck termicide is better and cheaper than some chosen in a rhino, never max marine squads, give all of your havocs autocannons and take more havocs in general since nurgle does it so well, spawn are generally just awful unless you hide a couple behind cover until late game and throw them on an objective and in my opinion you have a few too many, the screamer squad is too small and will get taken out quickly.It'd be better to take a CAD of daemons so you can have more than one herald, one with grimoire for invuln on the unit and the other with paradox. You might want to throw on the 30 pt locus for extra oomph to your summons. also if you're taking a DPoN give him the black mace and armour, always

>>52545485
>How does this look for 1250?
>1257

>>52545585

Are you retarded? You seem to be implying that people would treat a grill differently, but not a tranny. That is obviously untrue. If he's a tranny then people will treat him with disgust.

>>52545610
Chill autismo
Its just a fucking question

>>52545585
I am just trying to use them because I like them. Assume I remove them, what would you replace them with?

I once had my underwear ripped by some faggot, but other than that no. But I don't go around squee-ing and trying to be an attn whore, so there you go

>>52545601
As I said, the storm bolter relic seems to be 10 points over.

>>52545631
Probably more bikes, the termie squad is a lot of points for a distraction but if you have them may as well use them

>>52545282
Best place to go is the wip thread, tutorials for everything in that op and some really good painters frequent it.

Should be thinned down with water to the consistency of milk, mix in a wet pallet outside of the pot and keep the pot closed so paint consistency doesn't change.

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>>52545657
I just think they are awesome looking, I have them from the B@C box. I really want to use them with lysander because I have a thing for fluffy ICs.

I have 188 points here now, what should I do to this?

I could put more gear on the captain and make him beefier?

>>52545068
the not-necromunda

>>52545703
It may be worth noting that I play imperial fists, just using an UM conclave to grab tigurius and his delicious M3

I could replace the scout squad with a rhino/GravCan tactical squad.

>>52545498
True, but if it was only that single thing and everything else was Nurgle Daemons I'd say they'd have a chance. A target with 2+ cover on the ground could be plinked away at over time. That, combined with Tzeentch Daemons for psychic phase dominance is what pushes it over the edge.

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>>52545403
Here you go
It's not the most optimal but it utilizes what you already included with the special rules you were missing out on from the Vectorium.

For skitarii players,Whats the better unit, secutarii hoplites or peltasts or should i take 1 of each. Would you replace any of their weapons with arc rifles or plasma?

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Anybody got a source for some....boot leg models?

>>52545732
Yeah i would say squeeze in some grav tacsif you can

>>52545703
you should make a legal roster by adding another troop choice

>>52545792
Shit I missed the auxiliary, finagle some room for a spawn with MoN my bad
Probably just drop a bike or a screamer and a special weapon from the marines.

>>52545854
Ok, I will see how that shapes up. 5 with cannon or 10 with cannon/gun?

>>52545857
Bikes
Scouts

Seems legal to me

>>52545848
Peltasts for now
Who knows if theyll be changed in eighth though?

>>52545873
5 with cannon or gun for efficiency

>>52545873
>Seems legal to me
then you need to read your codex
or alternatively look at the big lightning bolt behind the unit selection

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>>52545872
>>52545403
Perfect!