AMONKEK SPOILERS

I unironically love Hazoret's card.

>>52528831
That combo is dumb, you have to use Black Sun's Zenith

>green god can't attack or block unless you control a snake and a cat

>>52528831
The combo is not especially worrying since it takes three cards, two of which need seven mana or outside trickery to play.

>>52528905
Seem kind of boring. Lacks the spice the Theros Gods had, since these ones seem like they're going to just be big creatures with one uninteresting drawback and one uninteresting activated ability.

What do you find interesting in them?

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>tfw you realize the bottom part is supposed to look like a grave/sarcophagus

>>52528831
Why do you need the chum? The stack is a thing. Removing the counter from the scarecrow is part of the cost where as adding it is the ability (so they don't happen at the same time) and the scarecrow doesn't say "only as a sorcery"

1 Blowfly Infestation + 2 Nest of Scarabs = Infinite Alive Bugs.

>>52528995
Green god will be the vanilla mythic rare.

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>DOG⅁O◖
You mean pervert

>>52528831
whoao ot's another one of those
>le impossible combo to land

>>52528982
Does BZS make exponential bugs or just one swipe of bugs?

>>52530992
You get bugs once. The bugs created by Nest aren't on the battlefield when BSZ resolves, so they won't get counters themselves.

>>52530680
>qt jackal pervert god
I'd tap it.

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>>52530680
NOBODY is buying amonkhek invocations!

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>>52528831

>>52529600
Pls tell me how devotion is interesting

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Really decent card.

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>>52532690
Yet another example of strict power creep.

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Open Heart
Sorcery
Target opponent reveals his or her hand. You choose a nonlegendary, nonland card from it. That player discards that card.

>>52532712
And this is bad because?…

I thought /tg/ was tired of shit un/commons and chase mythics.

>>52532733
Except the mythics are power creeping harder than everything else.

>>52532740
Tg hates when they print strict upgrades but loves when wizards give standard their 3cmc bolt that cant hit face

>>52532720
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBIdcUxdgo0

I thought we were done with the Indian block?

New to mtg what is a good starting colour for beginners.

>>52532786
any color is fine. blue and black can get slightly trickier to play but you should be okay. you should look up the kind of format you want to play before delving deeper into the game (casual, standard, modern, edh, pauper, etc)

>>52532786
If you want to just have fun playing the game, buy a Commander deck. They're very cheap, very well-constructed and the most important: very fun to play. If you want to get the basic idea of how the game works, i recommend Green and Red. These are the easiest colors to play.

>>52532720
>cmc 2 targeted discard
Wizards pls

>>52532786
Depends, how do you like to play?, fast and win / loose in a few turns or with slow decks that take over late into game?

What kinds of spells do you want to play?, do you like creatures, artifacts or instants and sorceries?

>>52532879
>not the best discard spell in standard
retard alert

>>52532786
Figure out what format you want to play first. That will help inform your decision.

>>52532772
/tg/ also hates obviously powerful cards, cards that aren't powerful enough, chase mythics, shit mythics, limited only decisions, strict upgrades, strict downgrades, that one card each set that will change Modern or "change Modern ", breaking the color pie, strict adhesion to the color pie, Gatewatch in every art, sjw pandering, """sjw pandering""", Blue, counterspells, the LACK of counterspells, overdosed underpowered creatures, undercosted overpowered creatures Green/white, and in all honesty, the game itself.

>>52532786
If you're in USA, Card Kingdom has a product called "Rookie Decks". They're $6 and has no cards of value, but they're good to learn how to play the game. Another thing you can do is simply go to a LGS and ask for one of those beginner decks provided by Wizards FOR FREE. Take 2 or 5 of them (one of each color) and start to learn the rules.

>>52532921
>best discard spell in standard
That's not saying much.

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Prepared // Fight
Type: Instant, Sorcery

Untap target creature. It gains +2 / + 2 and has lifelink until end of turn.

//

Target creature you control fights target creature an opponent controls.

>>52533002
Great in limited. Gonna feel like shit to pull as a rare though

>>52530680
what's up with these cards? are they just modern only or something?

>>52533048
nah, they're just shit and nothing else

>>52533002
>im probably going to get this as my promo rare

Set is looking worse and worse

>>52533131
that would be amazing for your odds of winning sealed as this is two removal spells in 1 card.

>>52532690
This isn't decent in the slightest. It's completely unplayable in constructed and limited unless the red aggro decks are both a) very good and b) laden with 1-toughness creatures, at which point it jumps up to "marginal sideboard card"

>>52533002
Is this a fucking joke?

>>52533131
Got Cultivator of Blades and Lifecrafter's Bestiary on my last 2 prereleases. Played WR in both.

>>52532720
It's a worse Distress, and Distress never saw play.

>>52532733
Cause it's a creature and what we need are powerful spells.

>>52533168
its far more parallel to transgress the mind since its 2 mana and hits anything but legends.

>>52530377
>Another target creature

>>52533002

how the fuck is this a rare?

>>52533273
its good enough to kill 2 creatures for being 1 card.

its on the low end of what makes up a rare but I can see it.

>>52533273
Because Limited.

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>>52533002
>We went from Dromoka's Command to this 6 mana abomination of card at rare.


Set looking more and more garbage by the minute.

Not even the Gods look like EDH playable and that's saying a fucking lot.

>>52532786
Magic Duels is free to download/play and should give you a decent understanding of the basic rules. Just make sure to stop and go play the game for real instead of putting any real money into it.

>>52533314
We've seen one god. Its still too soon to pass judgement.

I'll agree so far its pretty mediocre at best though.

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>>52533314
>>52533350
I started at RTR, the beautifully mediocre set as far as cards are said.
I loved the world building and the story to it.
I fell out of the story up until now, (didnt like eldrazi before and still dont like them) nothing of the story seemed cool, kaladesh was the fucking nick nack police, rhinos of tarkir was ok i guess (i fell in love with ojutai but he doesnt fit my play style) and fuck do i think they completely missed the feel of innistrad.

>>52533314
>>52533350
my point is the story is super cool so far and even if the cards arnt as great, I started in RTR so im ok with it

>>52533048
they're just reprints of cards that aren't standard legal unless the card itself was printed in standard

so in this case the aven mindcensor and amonkhet god invocations are standard legal, alongside the BFZ expeditions that were printed in BFZ as well as the Gearhulks and Ornithopter from the Invention series.

>>52528997
blacktron bugs when

>>52532720
>sorcery speed

>>52533784
name one like that, that is instant speed.

you think you get to thoughtseize fuckers on their draw step?

>>52532451

Because having a creature that you can allow to dodge creature removal while still providing a benefit is cool?

>>52533878
>Dodge creature removal
>Grasp of Darkness still around

Good fucking job wizards

>>52532690
Neat

>>52532720
Nice

>>52533002
Thought this was okay but the second part was overcosted.
Then I saw the rarity.
WTF Wizards?

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Why do these keep having instant/sorcery

Too afraid of instant/instant

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Also
essence scatter, but i doubt anyone cares

>>52534345
that is.. an insane common in limited.

>>52534335
Aftermath is sorcery speed

>>52532690
It's even better if we get a load of cards with "when X ETB, put -1 counters obn creature you control- drop this T1, have a 4/4 on turn 2 nice and easy.

>>52534314
RDW!

>>52534300
>Commander rules prevent the embalm token from doing commander damage.
>not an Aven with the bird subtype.
>birds are the only token deck for U/W

>>52533151
>unplayable in limited
have you ever played limited? that thing is sweet.

>>52534260
>red Unstable Mutation
nice

This set looks more and more like a Return to Theros.

Garbage all arround.

Where are the other God spoilers
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

What we've seen so far really does not inspire confidence in this set.

Overly cautious, weak-sauce shit.

One can only say "But at least it'll be good in limited" so many times before the sentiment starts to ring hollow.

>>52534267
I'm loving this card. Ramp early then decent beater later on
Even if you were to topdeck it chances are you can place the counters on another creature

>>52534274
This cycle will make for interesting limited and perhaps even make some mono color deck viable
I'm always in favor of cards that push mono colored decks

>>52534335
This card is stupid in a good way
6 mana do quadruple the damage one of your creature deals
I'll definitely make a casual deck with it and I expect this card to win limited games on its own

>>52534345
Maybe there is a slight chance of this seeing play, I wouldn't discard it as draft chaff

>>52534350
Definitely not as good as Archaeomancer but it seems niche enough to fulfill some kind of role

>essence scatter
Good to have it back, one more decent counterspell and mono-blue Baral control could be a thing

>>52534354
Barely playable at 3 mana, complete trash at 4
I wouldn't even play it in U/X tempo in limited

>>52534466
Uh yeah, a ton. Cat does fucking nothing by itself. At absolute best it dissuades X/1s from attacking and chumps twice. It gets stonewalled easily and is in general a waste of a card.
However, I might be eating crow already on this; if the trend of creatures that give 3 -1/-1 continues, then going Cat -> 2-drop 4/4, throw counters on Cat, etc might actually be a strong strategy worth the card disadvantage.
But by itself? Cat is terrible holy shit how do you not see that

>>52529600

Because she's a big beater and I usually end up playing aggro decks where I have next to nothing in hand anyway, and being able to get rid of dead draws like lands at that point while burning face is pretty sweet.

>>52534809
>>52534831
topkek so fucking trash

>>52534809
>>52534831

That's just pathetic

>All the gods are absolute garbage low power shit not even viable in the slightiest for modern or even edh


HAAHHAHHA FUCKING WIZARDS HOW DO THEY KEEP FUCKING UP

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>>52534809
>>52534831

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>>52534809
>>52534831

Fuck maybe fervered visions but I would be surprised if any deck used this fuck up

>>52528831
brb, gonna brew a mono-B scarab tron

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>>52534809
I'm not sure which is worst this piece of crap of pic related
I'd definitely pick Soramaro as my commander over this

>Theros: Egypt Edition

Standard is fucking dead

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>>52534809
>>52534831
INFINITY LAND
R
O
P
S

Frankly I find funny how these "gods" cards are much weaker than many other normal creatures. Werent for indestructible, in any straight fight they'd lose virtually everytime.

>>52534831
Just to confirm I'm dumb and don't know modern, could you run this in something like U/W control that usually has you at 7 cards? 2u for a 5/5 flyer USB pretty nice.

>>52535109
Here's how that goes.
Turn three. You fetch for an Island and cast the god.
Your opponent pauses, blinking in confusion.
He casts Dismember on your end step..

>>52535047
People like this is why we are getting this fucking shit tier standard.

>Infinite landdrops

Please fucking kill this set already and lets move on to the proper second part of the set

>>52535093
Indestructible is a scary keyword that comes at a hefty price
I'd rather have them be slower and stronger rather than these half assed cards we got

Something like 6 mana, maybe better stats and draw 2 instead of 1 would be much more enjoyable to play with and make for a better commander too

>>52535198
The funniest thing about indestructable is this is set....is that the set itself is full of -1-1 counters, top kek.

Not even sure you want to play it in limited, if you have it turn 1 then it's a sure win but other wise it's useless and returning more than 1 land per turn in your hand is very counterproductive.

>>52535158
Isn't dismember -4/-4?

>>52534831
Alright they seem to have fixed it a bit

>Draw a card and may return a land to your hand

It's still trash

>>52535288
It takes you 3 seconds to type Dismember mtg on google and find out it is -5-5 you fucking retard

>>52535288
No, -5/-5. It was specifically costed to be just short of being able to kill Titans.

>>52535288
how hard is it to google

So the white one will be having 3 or more creatures on the battlefield to attack

Green one will be having 8 or more power in play to attack

Black one will be having a player have 10 or less life to attack

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>>52534335
Fling is also being reprinted in Standard this rotation, right?

Looks like R/G Pummeler is getting some hilarious upgrades with Amonkek

>>52535340
Red and Blue are complete polar opposite so we can expect it to be:

>white one - have 20 or more life to attack
>black one have 10 or less life to attack

>>52535273
>-1-1 counters
Oh right, all the more reasons to give us good gods or at least make them flashy enough to appeal to the casuals
I don't think anyone sees this thing and is hyped about it except idiots like pic related >>52535047

I'm willing to bet they were stronger at first but the fucking goons in FFL got triggered over them being indestructible and nerfed them to the ground

>>52534809
This somehow makes Hazoret seem BETTER. Wtf Wizards? Is this Kamigawa all over again? Why are the cards so garbage? Why did you make a mechanic out of fucking us up in the ass? No one likes mechanics that makes them fuck themselves up the ass, I thought you'd learnt that by now.

>>52533677
but what about the other stuff? is the entomb card legal in standard when the new set drops or no?
do these cards come in normal packs or some premium thing?

>>52535405
Invocations aren't legal in standard unless there is the same card printed with the normal border in the same set.

Basically invocations are also illegal in all other formats unless they have the same card printed in the "normal" version, sorry If I'm explaining it in a dumb way but it should get the point across.

>>52535405
Same as the past masterpiece sets they come in regular packs at a very high rarity and aren't legal in standard unless printed in the regular set like the gods and avengers mindcensor so far.

>>52535450
>>52535451
thanks boys, I'm a newfag and searching google didn't give me any good results. I got it now.

>>52534809
it's a 5/5 flying, indestructible for 3. /tg/ was always bad at magic but jeez

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>>52535514
That'll almost always never be able to attack or block

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>>52535514
>it's a 5/5 flying, indestructible for 3

IF you have more than 7 cards in hand

It's easier to activate lupine prototype, because atleast we have some decent discard outlets

Where are the GOOD drawspells?

>>52535514
That will never attack or block under normal circumstances and only serves as draw stick while also netting you negative mana in play.


Its
Fucking
Garbage

>>52535560
I really hope we get to see a MECHAWOLF deck this Standard.

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Watch the blue god see the most play out of all the gods

>>52534831
>>52534809

I'm getting ready for the White or Green to be hilariously easy to use.

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>>52535590
I'm from the future and can confirm that it will only see play in a fringe legacy meme deck.

The Black one will be really solid however (by standard's standards.) I'd buy them all on release before they see play in all the top 8 decks at the Pro Tour.

>>52534560
Kill yourself.

>>52535636
>Green god
>5/5
>Green god can only attack or block if you control a creature with power 5 or greater

>>52534809
JUST

>>52535590
I wouldn't bet that it doesn't see any play
If standard somehow evolves into a control meta then it might be a decent sideboard for control vs control

>>52535636

Indestructible, trample
10/10
Is only a creature if you are playing limited
G: Fight target creature

>>52535771
>can only attack/block if you control atleast 10 lands

>>52535565
>under normal circumstances

because blue hates card advantage and this set will have no cards designed to synergise with it. if you can reverse engineer on t4 it's a good card. kys

>>52535791
Watch they print a blue color shifted wheel of fortune this set

>>52535791
>iTS A GOOD CARD IF THIS SPECIFIC SITUATION HAPPENS AND MY OPPONENT IS BASICALLY NOT PLAYING MAGIC

killyourself

>>52535764
It costs already 3 mana plus the activation cost. At that point you xan play any of the blue planeswalker with a card advantage ability and it would be cheaper.

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>>52535791
>play 3 mana indestructible g-

>>52535860
I was more thinking about the fact that it doesn't die to common removal and can close the game in 4 attacks on top of providing card advantage at instant speed

But yeah, I'd rather play 5 mana jace than this

>>52535791
>MEMORY JAR REPRINT INCOMING

>>52535340
white will be control 3 or more white zombies, along with XWWW, embalm target nonlegendary creature in your graveyard with converted mana cost X, activate this only once per turn as a sorcery.

>>52534260
Nice color shift.

>>52534274
>rewarding creature spells

It's a cool card and all, but, really? Seriously? We needed to reward players even more for casting creatures?

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>>52534809
>calling THAT a god


puny god

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>>52534350
Does it bother anyone else that this is a mono-blue cleric? There's only about 6 other blue clerics in the entire history of magic and this would make a much better wizard.
Is it BECAUSE that it would be good if it were a wizard that it's a cleric?

>>52535719
>enables itself
you really thought that through didntcha

>>52536207
>missing the joke.jpg

>>52534325
I love this thing.

>>52534466
One mana 1/1s aren't where you want to be in limited.

>>52536115
I dunno about you but >>52534280 >>52534314 and maybe >>52534307 all have their uses in EDH. Oketra's is bound to be an auto-include in any W/X tokens deck, and Hazoret's is decent for giving red some extra draw power

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>>52536222
>me.jpg

>>52534325
>"afterlife" is just the blind eternities once the trial activates their spark

>>52536342
>instant speed o-ring with cycling

I am erect

>>52536342
This card is actually pretty strong on the sly.

>>52534267
Just a question if play a creature turn 1 like Bonded Construct, can you cast her on turn 2 and choose Bonded construct as a target to put the 3 counters even if just one will kill it or you need a creature that have 4 or more toughness?

>>52536395
You can put 3 counters on a 1/1 or such

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>>52536342

>>52536298
>Be a trialgoer nearing the end of Hazoret's trial
>Like so close to the end you could almost taste it
>Suddenly get sodeswiped by a monster or a fellow trialgoer
>Plummeting to your death, angry as all-hell that you will not go to the glorious afterlife you've been working for your entire life to achieve
>Close your eyes as the ground gets closer
>Open your eyes after a few seconds when you realize you're not dead or dying
>You are in a completely different place, one absolutely unlike your home
>Not only have you failed the trial, but it seems that you're in the afterlife
That would be a wild fucking ride for sure.

>>52536186
holy crap i never noticed that. It would have been awesome as a blue wizard, but some planes just don't have them I guess

>>52535047
>into my Kruphix deck
And again EDH player ruin the game for everybody else

Reminder that Always Watching removes any and all downsides from the exert mechanic.

>>52534335
According to the article, it's for Delirium synergy.

>>52534809
Well... You could use it as Fling fodder?

>>52536529

Reminder that Exert won't be printed on anything good.

>>52536603
>That dragon

>>52536315
So... How does this compare to Lightning Rift? Worse, obviously, but 2 damage is 2 damage...

>>52536632
One is "a player" and the other is "you"
One pings, the other makes tokens.

>>52536613
3RR for a 4/4 flying haste flametongue a creature on attack isn't really going to thrive anywhere but limited and maybe standard if kiran gets banned.

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>>52536315
this set will be so delectable for land decks

But seriously guys just how strong can Memerakul be if some random bitch on her period can summon it?

>>52536680
Flametongue Kavu is only once, but this thing can do it every turn because of Always Watching, a card that used to be in the best deck in standard until the bannings.

>>52536999
Kavu is only 3R though, and because it's an enter the battlefield effect it has tons of exploitation that easier to set up. The dragon needs to resolve and attack. Kavu just needs to resolve.

>>52534335
This on Death shadows decks

>>52537138
>6 mana sorcery
lel

>white god
>4 mana
>6/6
>vigilance
>can only attack and block if you control 1 other creature
>W give all other creatures you control +2+2 and vigilance until end of turn

>green god
>5 mana
>7/7
>can't attack or block unless have 5 or more lands in play
>G target creature you control fights all creatures your opponent controls and deals damage to target opponent equal to its attack

>maro "green and white totally aren't pushed as fuck, blue and red are fine :^)"

>>52533002
I don't mind the rarity because I'm not retarded but Instant // Sorcery? Has that ever been done before?

>>52537303
its how all of the fuse cards this set work

the upright one is cast as an instant from hand and the sideways one can only be cast as a sorcery from the graveyard

>>52537276
Their activated abilites help reach their enabler clause

>>52534831
THIS IS A MISTRANSLATION

IT SAYS YOU _MAY_ BOUNCE A LAND TO HAND

THIS CHANGES AN AWFUL LOT ACTUALLY

>>52537157
Only the first half anon, only the first half

>>52537371
Personally, Oketra probably makes a token while whatever the shitty green god's name is probably pumps a creature, while having a greatest power restriction.

So what's the precedent on cards spiking pre-release. Would it be considered a safe move to order the cards I want under $2, or do I trust them to all tank on release day as usual?

>>52537452
>or do I trust them to all tank on release day as usual
Well gee what do you think anon?

In reality one or two cards will probably be stupid broken and no one will catch it somehow until release, while all the aggro-centric rares will spike during the first SCG tournament. In general you almost can't go wrong just waiting though.

>Friend talking to me about how he doesn't like green's -1 counter theme
>"I dunno, if you get the black enchantment you're fucking set"
>"No, you're sobek"
got a hearty kek out of me

Also the green monument is amazing.

>>52537400
BOUNCING A LAND PUTS REVOLT ONLINE

>>52533236
Pretty sure chum means a random 3rd targetable creature. I never said that you could only do it with 1 scarecrow.

>>52537276
>>maro "green and white totally aren't pushed as fuck, blue and red are fine :^)"
>Bolas colors are shit on Bolas' plane
like pottery

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anyone know what this says, the site that spoiled Kefnet had it

>>52537832
Yeah it says コラコマ!

What are the archetypes you spotted so far?

W/U tokens
W/R exert aggro
W/B zombies
B/G -1/-1 counters

>>52534557
>But at least it'll be good in limited
This is why Ive resigned myself to limited and legacy. I barely follow standard or modern anymore but the limited environments have been pretty alright for a while (Barring BFZ). I just hope this one passes the carbomb test

>>52537650
I figured the point was to easily reach 7 cards so that you get a 5/5 flying indestructible swinging on turn 4

>>52538812
>[Colours] [Mechanic on cards of those colours]
Wew lad.

>>52538980
No you dipshit. Thassa was accidentally an aggro creature. This one is hardcore control. You have the option of drawing a card at instant speed, then late game when you've got the game sealed up, you have so many cards in hand that it can actually attack.

>>52532930
/board

>>52538980
Let's assume you're on the draw
You end turn 1 with 7 cards in hand after your land drop
Turn 2 same
Turn 3 you end with 6 once you dropped a land and your god
Turn 4+ you can swing with it and then land drop OR play a card

Nobody is going to win by skipping the first 2 turns and then having to choose between land drop or playing a card every single turn afterwards

>>52533835
esper charm

>>52538812
>W/R exert aggro
that's not a thing, it's just an ability in two oclours

>>52539241
I was talking limited archetypes
If you manage to pick up the few exert cards we saw so far you could build a decent aggro deck

>>52537832
Is that a space pirate?

>>52539920
i know you meant limited, but they still feel like a pile of cards, i don't see much of a sinergy, unless there were a lot of untap cards i missed.

>there are people in this thread who don't think Glorybringer will be a format-influencing card

Are you lot idiots? Are you newfags who weren't even around for Stormbreath Dragon or Sarkhan? Glorybringer's the nut. Like how the fuck do you not look at a hasty flying Flametongue Kavu and not say to yourself "yeah that card's great"?

>>52543180
Like nigger you don't even remember when Falkenrath Aristocrat was $1.50 then people realised it was actually the best creature in standard and exploded to $30 overnight.

ITT: proof that this set is clearly shit.
fuck me i'm happy i'm not doing standard right now, its obvious WOTC has been taken over by aggrobabbies who can't into card design, and its hilarious watching people justify travesty after travesty of sets.

>>52536478
We have Mr. Bird Wizard himself this expansion.

>>52534350

>Essence Scatter
>3cmc green dude that prevents creature spells from being countered

Why did I not see this coming? I should have figured out "Surely they have to print Essence Scatter/Remove Soul in the set if this card is in"

>>52534354

>Decision Paralysis

The only decision paralysis you'll make with this card is what other card you take over it in limited.

>>52543905
Frankly I'm baffled that they didn't have "place a -1-/-1 counter on target creature" or "cycle 2" here. Sudden Storm, Adverse Conditions, and Chilling Grasp were good because they provided incidental value that mitigated the cost of pitching a card for tempo. This and Take into Custody make me question how much R&D is valuing lockdown effects, because they clearly think the effect is worth a full card at certain pricing points when it definitely isn't.

>>52544002

We both know the card is for limited. I mean I can literally see LSV's set reviews writing what I said in the post you replied to word for word when evaluating this card.

But other than yes they could have printed cycling on it but then again there may have been a limit to the amount of cycling cards they wanted in the block as a whole or at the common level.

>>52543180
Not until heart of kiran is banned

>>52535636
>White god
>2W
>4/6
>Can't attack or block unless you have 3 or more creature tokens on the field
>2W: Create a 1/1 White warrior creature token with Vigilance

>>52546337
>White god
>2WW
>4/4
>Indestructible, lifelink
>Can't attack or block unless you have no creature cards in your graveyard
>Creature cards in your graveyard have "2WW: Embalm"

>>52533682
>blacktron takes off and starts sweeping tournaments
>becomes new hotness everyone's netdecking
>blacktron everywhere
Haha time to stock up on space police before prices spike

>>52533314
Admittedly Dromoka's Command was busted as fuck.

>>52534267
Someone explain this art to me. Why is the druid sideways?

>>52547404
Green god's trial is about defying gravity

>Rhonas cannot attack or block unless it is tapped.

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>>52547269
New LEGO thread when?

>>52528831
>blue god is cheaper than the red one, better p/t, better activated ability
really makes you stink

>>52547620
I appreciate the joke, but you ought to be ashamed of your support for Bionicle.

>>52547865
I just don't see players having 7 cards in hand reliably, or even wanting to attack with him if you do have 7 cards in hand. He does literally nothing when he drops, which means you're going to be behind and playing catch-up for a while.

At least pervy god has a high chance of attacking right away.

Amonkheturd

>>52547971
Big fat Azure Mage sounds decent to me.

I will never be ashamed of my support for Bionicle.

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What's the meaning of this?

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>>52549156

>>52531141
But things get lol with a twincast

>>52549156
>Can't be instant because of Torrential Gearhulk

Thanks WOTC.

This set does not look good so far, but I'm assuming they have more in wait to show us that'll be more exciting. Certainly, it's hard to believe that they would actually go and design a set where the most exciting cards were draft playables. I'm more annoyed that they have basically explicitly confirmed that they have no graveyard hate in this block. What a goddamn crock of shit. Development has ruined multiple year's worths of standard formats at this point and the least I would like them to do is own up to their fucking incompetence instead of continuing to act like the goddamn sun shines out of their ass.

Also get someone other than MaRo who's able to fucking talk to the consumers. I love reading the Wizards Developer Tumblr to learn about Dual Lands in Commander 2016, it's a thrilling topic, but I think they might have exhausted the relevance of that one.

There was something else that annoyed me too but I forgot.

>>52547971
The blue god sucks unless Standard is radically weird. The red god is better than people thinks and will probably be in at least a tier 2 or 3 deck. I don't think it dominates anything but people will play it.

>>52549182
lol. I admire the lengths you'll go to bitch.

>>52536450
She's the one who's been cast out idiot. Not the dragon.

>>52536476
I don't think your spark activates if you don't expect the killing blow. You need to be aware it's coming so that you have that overwhelming desire to flee.

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>>52534291

Could be nice.

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>>52536315
This card will be a staple.

Also cute with pic related.

>>52549741
You're not funny.

>>52549741
That's actually pretty strong if you get it going, too bad it's slow and unreliable.

>>52549741
>>52549787

Whoops, apologies, thought you were that one randomass troll who makes nonsensical pairings and were linking to the bounce spell

>>52549741
good find.

>>52529677
That's where it fucking belongs.

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>>52549156
So this... Is the power of blue permanent interaction...

>>52534260
>>52534291
Nifty little life gain thing if you dump the first 3 -1/-1 counters on something like >>52532690

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>>52536186
>that pic
interesting

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>>52536186
>>52550170
>best part isn't on the card
What the fuck

>>52549156
cycling almost looks overrated when it's stapled to hot garbage like this.

>>52533002
It bothers me that her sword has that buldge thingy, meaning it can't fit in that scabbard. It keeps triggering me as I look at it

>>52550353
Looks like the scabbard fits it. Still a stupid design, really weird weight to it. Also it's split down the middle, worst sin ever for swords.

>>52550353
>>52550361
I understand why it's riling your guy's autism but it's designed as Nicol Bolas' horns like everything else in this set so don't worry too much about it.

>>52550394
I love when sets can only have like three visually unique attributes. Pyramids or horns for the next year, whippee...

>>52536342
Interesting. I remember Maro saying that one of the biggest mistakes concerning Cycling in Urza's block was putting it on kill spells as people never wanted to get to rid of them even if it was correct to do so.

>>52551354
Maro's biggest mistake concerning cycling was alara block.

>>52539133
>What is card draw?
>What are cantrips?
The blue god is good, /tg/ is just fucking bad at the game.

>>52551454
>cantrips increase hand size
>calls other people retarded.
The god is shit. The red god is actually playable.

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>decent in limited, and an effect we haven't seen before
I like it

>>52551454
The blue good is alright, but not for the reasons you gave. It's good because you have the option to draw cards at instant speed, and even to put revolt online with the optional bounce.

>>52551531

What blue decks even care about revolt?

All the good revolt cards are like, green zoo-y shit, and Fatal Push

>>52551491
I never said they do. Cantrips allow you to do things while maintaining your hand size.

kys

>>52551531
>but not for the reasons you gave
I never gave any reasons.

>>52551543
Well yeah it's pretty much just Fatal Push. Though UB control bouncing a bicycle land, Pushing your 4 cost dude, then cycling it because it's late game and you don't need that many land seems value.

>>52551563
You said it's good because card draw and cantrips exist.

>>52551575
>You said it's good because card draw and cantrips exist.
I didn't.

>>52551516
And it's an asymmetrical effect (doesn't hurt your own GY)? It may not be powerful but it's a nice card, I like the design.

>>52551516
>This is the state of graveyard hate in a standard with 2 blocks focused on graveyards

>>52551636
And none of those graveyard decks are even in the meta.

>>52551649
>Literal 2 deck standard

>>52551658
I think WotC is trying to remake the Mirrodin-Kamigawa fiasco

>>52551684
So what's the new Glimpse of Nature?

>>52551692
None yet, but knowing the boner they have for green I wouldn't be surprised if we actually got a card that retarded spoiled soon

>>52551516
This is a neat new design for graveyard hate.

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>>52551516
>20+ feet tall Stone Cats
>2/2
huh

>>52551516
C O L O R L E S S
O B E A R
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R R
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>>52552132

The relation between P/T and actual size of/danger presented by the creature in the image has been completely fucked for years at this point.

It's basically meaningless.

>>52552132
The gods of the plane so far have been 5/4 and a 5/5.

>>52534809

So the Bin Chicken god belongs in the bin. What utter trash

https://youtu.be/mO-OpFjHRbE

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who /simic/ here?

>>52552364

>"Keen sense is just TOO powerful to reprint!"
>"I mean, what if someone built some jank ass deck with thermo alchemist!"

WoTC need to fucking kill themselves, holy shit.

>>52552364
I'm only here to see if pummler gets any cards to be honest

>>52552541
How... How do you plan on dealing combat damage with thermo alchemist

>>52552132
They are actually made from paper mache.

>>52552553
Learn to read. Anon is mocking WotC for thinking that Keen Sense (which triggers on damage, not combat damage) was too powerful in a format with Thermo Alchemist.

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>>52552553

Keen sense faggot

KEEN sense

I was complaining about them making a new, worse card when there was a perfectly good card for them to just reprint.

>>52552647
They probably have a policy of not reprinting planeshifted cards.

>>52551516
What the fuck is this supposed to hate on? This doesn't hate on shit. One could easily leave an Artifact Creature and one of those new Instant/Sorcery cards keep Delirium up against that creature. Fuck you Wizards, this really IS Kamigawa all over again isn't it? It's the local minima in terms of power slump where we're supposed to be excited for utter garbage like Bin Juice Bird and strictly worse cards that aren't even playable.

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heads up, cartouchebags

>>52552815
Hahah, the red one is by far the worst one

>>52552801
Okay this is nice. I like this. Maybe the car touches will shut me up for a bit. This looks like it'll win games. I wonder if Pauper has a place for it, we definitely have a happy slot in Bogles for the White one, since it's better than Hyena Umbra due to the increased presence of Edict effects.

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hahhaha

>>52551516
Things like dredge aren't really hurt all that much by this, most graveyard decks only need like 1~2 specific cards in the yard to function..

>>52552840
lmao

>>52552346
Someone really hates ibises.

>>52552840
>Gideon is now a Platinum Angel for 3 mana

Excuse me while I go jump off a bridge.

>>52552840
WAKE ME UP

>>52552840

Now that's a funny wall. I like it just for playing with some interesting design space.

>>52552863

He's also kinda easy to kill. He's only 3 in size and any creature that gets through can do damage to him.

Remember: He only turns into a soldier until end of turn. So on the opponents turn he's still a planeswalker.

>>52552801
This is actually some cute design.

>>52552885
but the emblem is permanent, and you can just play another Gideon for 3 mana

>>52552825
This is deceptively good.

>>52552840
God dammit.

>>52552851
This is... good?

>>52552897
Yeah I'm brewing a modern constellation thing with car touches right meow

>>52552894

Sure and he'll soak another 3-4 damage.

>>52552918
I want to say it's playable because it's only R but my inner voice is yelling "-1, -1 it's a fucking -1".

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>>52552840
No sir, I don't like it

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

>>52552938
but at that point, you can start using his +1 to avoid damage, and for as its only 3 mana you can start dealing with the actual damage sources.

>>52552851
>Red Soul Gem worst soul gen

No love for Kyouko ;_;

Seriously how hard was it to fuck up? "When it enters the battlefield it deals 2 damage to target creature or player." Is that too fucking powerful? Are you really that scared of RDW in Standard? Pussies. Even the Green cartouche offers better removal at this point.

>>52552879
Between Pauper Bogles and Modern Bogles, someone is gonna love this.

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>>52552541
>>52552647

*teleports behind u*
*draws 5 cards*

Psssh… Nothin Personnel… Kid…

>>52552954
Green offers better everything at this point.

>>52552945
yeah, by far the worse one.

Black is way better for creature removal, which makes this a 3mana bolt that requires you play an aura to repeat it.

>>52552825
this seems insanely good

isn't it insanely good?

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>>52552840

>>52552974

It's good, very good

It's an edict (which is already standard-playable level) with added thing if you play carthouces

>>52552974
it's not insane but it is pretty fucking good

>>52552840
oh dear. this card game is done for.

>>52552945
RIP IP In Pepperonis RDW, good thing you're already a star in every other good format even Pauper.

>>52552983
>>52552985
it just seems ridiculously strong against some decks as a recurring removal thing. 2 mana for a removal that you can easily return to your hand? seems really good as long as your opponent isn't playing tokens or something

>>52552840
The Emblem work with Any Gideon not just him.

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>we're never getting Sign in Blood ever again
It hurts

>>52553009

Keep in mind that it's only "recurring" if you play bad cards.

Playing bad cards to enable good cards is almost never worth it unless the good card you're enabling straight up wins you the game

>>52552840

Okay that's it, I quit Standard.

Good job Wizards.

>>52553027
Read the bones was just too OP I guess

>>52553039
to be honest i didn't check how good the cartouches really well. i expect that at least 1 or 2 of them would be good and that would justify running a playset of those with a playset of that thing

>>52553011
>turn 3 Platinum Gideon
>turn 4 Ally of Zendikar
sounds lovely

>>52553052
yeah the white one seems quite playable.

(W) grants you a 1/1 vigilant token, and +1/+1 first strike to the enchanted creature.

>>52553055
Wont bfz rotate with this set?

Anyone notice the cartouches have varying degrees of Shading in the art, with the red one having none and being blood splattered?

>>52553070
Nope,

it will rotate in the fall set.

>>52553070

No, they pussied out on changing the schedule at the last minute, so we get two gideons in standard.

I need a picture of WotC riding a bike labeled standard, they stick Gideon in the tires, and end with "fucking counterspells"

>>52553082
This aside there is stuff like Modern.

>>52553082
>>52553085
Right that whole thing...shit

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>>52553055
Oh good I'm not the only one who reached the conclusion to call him Platinum Gideon.

You know who else is Platinum?

Me

I'm PLATINUM FUCKING MAD AF RN FAMALAM

At common, we're gonna be seeing a lot of cartouches in limited
I wonder how highly they'll be rated, or whether it's just a case of "neat, I got an on-colour cartouche"

>>52553027
>Senifet, vizier of Bontu
Bontu is the black god. He has a vizier
The WU legendary was a vizier to Naktamun
Multicolour gods confirmed?

>>52553108

are you retarded?

Now all they need to do is have a Mythical 5 Color Legendary Creature that Wins you the game on your end step if you have the 5 cartouches in play and call him Herzordea

>>52553108
more like multicolor viziers confirmed

>>52552885
>He's also kinda easy to kill.

how? using your 2 drop creature that gideon targetted?

>>52553108
Naktamun isnt one of the gods.

>>52553122
>5 cartouches in play
enchanting Herzordea, surely

>>52553126
if you targetted a creature then you don't have the emblem, you mong