/5eg/ - Fifth Edition General

>Shitty animu girl thread
I don't think so.

>>52521870
Favorite? Ceremony. Most OP? Haven't decided yet, but most of the choices are pretty solid.

>>52521898
>Most OP?
Healing Elixir and Puppet

>>52521870

>Years of "Clerics aren't priests!!" meme
>Clerics literally get a Priest spell

>>52521912
Does puppet force the target to lose its action? All it says is movement.

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thoughts:
>give Cause Fear a repeat save like every other fucking spell, disadvantage clause still applies
>Ceremony (atonement) should probably have some kind of focus component associated with the creature in question
>Ceremony (Funeral) should probably be trumped by magic of 6th-level or higher (or can it be dispelled?)
>Chaos Bolt should be on the Warlock spell list
>Healing Elixir should have some form of scaling (extra elixir for every 2 levels above 1st?). Remember that life cleric with goodberry still outheals it.
>Puppet should have the standard clauses about moving the target into harmful situations, since it is a charm effect.
>The caster should be able to end Snare early without triggering it. I want my rope back, damn it.
>Snare should probably not also make the target prone, since Restrained does all the same shit, and prone just denies advantage to ranged attacks. Unless that's the intent.
>Toll the Dead being a d12 damage cantrip feels wrong.
>Unearthly Chorus should be a significantly higher level
>Wild Cunning is probably too good as a ritual, since a survival check should do the same thing in ten minutes
>Zephyr Strike should be weaker somehow (either higher level or duration 1 round), since it's mobile feat++ as it is

am I wrong?

What's your favorite cantrip or spell from the new UA?

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>>52521959
Nevermind, I'm retarded, it is movement not on the targets turn.

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>>52521898
>Ceremony

Same. Finally, after all these years, I can officiate a wedding in D&D.

But in all seriousness, it's a pretty fun spell.

>>52521966
>No love for sudden awakening
but why?

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>Shotgun Wedding the Rogue for Extra AC

>completely replace Survival with a ritual spell

>have better healing than the Cleric with a 1st level spell
>additionally, higher level Wizards can cheese to store them infinitely

>make people walk off of cliffs

Primal Savagery is pretty cool, though.

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>>52521870
Toll The Dead so far.

>>52521994
I don't see why people are complaining about healing elixir, it's exactly the same as a potion of healing and it's temporary, and it's action inefficient (10 whole minutes to cast, and an action to use for something that heals less than a cast of cure wounds at 1st)

>>52521870
wtf is that

>Infestation
>Cantrip
>Components: V, S, M (a living flea)

>cantrip
>(a living flea)

Somehow, I feel people that regularly use this spell will either have to be very, very careful or they will be the embodiment of unhygienic.

>>52522023
1 minute to cast

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It's been awhile but I'm back. First with the official list that probably won't change for a while yet.

>>52522047
>embodiment of unhygienic

There is a reason Druids and Warlocks get it.

Probably can just use a focus instead though.

>>52522023
The spell as written has no limit on the number of potions the caster can create, and it has a casting time of 1 minute.

If you wanted, you could easily spend a short rest making 60+ healing potions that all last 24 hours. Basically for free.

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>>52522062
And now for the everything list, added in all the recent UAs.

>>52522023
It's cast time is only one minute, and it has a higher healing average than Cure Wounds at 1st level. The only flaw with it is that it scales poorly.

The action deal also isn't an issue because normal potions take the same action economy to use. The only problem there is that the Fighter may be using his action instead of the Cleric. But, on that token, it's inefficient to do healing during combat for anybody.

The only real flaw with Healing Elixir is that it doesn't scale for slots, which doesn't actually matter for the best use of the spell, which is to make dozens of elixirs out of combat and hand them out.

>>52521961
>>Unearthly Chorus should be a significantly higher level

It's a useless spell on a Bard.
There's no universe where you should take that on your Spell Known slot over Enhance Ability

Have you ever successfully cast a spell with a 1 minute casting time in combat?
What was it? and what were the circumstances?

>>52521961
>>Ceremony (Funeral) should probably be trumped by magic of 6th-level or higher (or can it be dispelled?)

I would make the effects of Funeral Right permanent unless trumped by 7th-level or higher magic.

>>52521994
I didn't realize until now at level 18 Wizards have infinite healing at their disposal without Theurgy.

>>52522080
Aside from not having 60 spell slots? It isn't a ritual or a cantrip.

>>52522085
Healing Elixir has an average of 7hp (2*2.5+2) healing. It costs a spell slot in advance and an action to use. It cannot be upcast and has a range of touch.

Assuming a wisdom of 16 at 1st-level, Cure Wounds heals 7.5 (4.5+3) health, has a cast time of 1 action, can be upcast, and has a range of touch.

Assuming the same 16 wisdom, Healing Word averages out to 5.5 health, is a bonus action, and is ranged.

When the cleric reaches 20 wisdom, Healing Word has a higher average healing per slot. A Life cleric also casts it significantly better.

Healing Elixir is strong, but not gamebreaking. Maybe the potion duration should be lowered to 8 hours?

>>52522080
How are you making 60+ healing potions with a first level spell

Has any spell gotten a damage dice downgrade when used at higher level spell slots before now? I understand why it's like that but it seems like of crappy to finally give Sorcerers a unique spell only to pull something like that.

>>52521870
>chaos bolt
Some threads ago some anon just made a similar homebrew . . . You know what that . . . means ?

>>52522222
Mearles-senpai notice me.

>>52522198
>>52522205
Sorry, thought I saw that the spell had the ritual tag.

>>52522222
chaos bolt is from earlier editions

>>52522047
i forcecage the flea

>>52522198
My real issue with Healing Elixir is that Warlocks and Wizards get it. Even if it's not the best healing spell, it's still really strong, especially for two classes that really shouldn't be healing at all.

Wizards are typically for non-buff and non-healing utility, while Clerics are all about buffs and heals. Giving them such a strong healing spell kind of steps on Cleric's toes.

>>52522255
even if it did that would at 10 min to casting time

>>52522222
that was me

>>52522218
The d6 is bonus damage added onto the spell, not what the die changes into.

>>52522276
To be fair, it's pretty shitty on a warlock, since the whole no-slots-and-nonscaling-spell thing.. Wizard shouldn't get it, I agree.

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Looking for the original Anon of this here Runeweaver homebrew. If there is an updated version, I would very much like to see it, in love with this class.

Ok so newish dm here, about to start my second campaign. Cousin wants to play, never has before. So I show him race/class/background options.
>half elf sounds good I'll do that
>ooh rogue sounds awesome
>charlatan, definitely
Fucking 8 skill proficiencies and two with expertise...damn...
The other 3 PCs have no more than 4

>>52522302
That's what I mean, is any other spell's bonus damage from casting at a higher level slot a different kind of die than the initial damage dice?

>>52522438
Rogues are skill monkeys. It's what they get for being mediocre in combat

>>52522438
yes and

>>52521870
WOW ITS NOTHING

>>52522457
Not that I can think of, but it's still a decent increase. For example, Fireball's damage only increases by 1d6 per level when its base is 8d6 for 3rd level. Chaos Bolt is 2d8 and goes up by 1d6 every level.

Granted, Chaos Bolt seems like it's unlikely to hit huge AoEs like Fireball does.

>>52522457
I don't think it's all that bad considering a lot of spells that do like 4dx only adding one extra dx per level

>>52522504
>Granted, Chaos Bolt seems like it's unlikely to hit huge AoEs like Fireball does.
no shit

>everyone overreacting to Healing Elixir
It's just another level 1 healing spell. It isn't better than the others.

>>52522047
Use a focus or spell component pouch like a normal person.

>>52522124
I've never seen a fight last 1 minute.

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>>52522544
>It's just another level 1 healing spell. It isn't better than the others.
Wizards own so hard
Here's my wiz

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>>52522532
All in a day's work.

You also won't be blowing your team up with Chaos Bolt, is the flipside of it.

>>52522473
Nothing really just thought it was crazy

>>52522579
>filename

>>52522222
It did seem a bit familiar Mr. Fives and Twos

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>playing 3rd-level paladin with 32 hit points
>clear second-to-last-room of the cave
>take short rest, regain all hit points. back to 32.
>find a 6th level druid that has gone mad
>combat begins after some RP
>haven't taken damage, halfway through the fight. druid is looking pretty rough
>druid casts tidal wave, fail DC16 dex save.
>DM says he rolled max damage on all dice.
>32 damage

>>52522598
shit

>>52522590
That's Rogue's schtick, getting a shitload of skills.
You're gonna shit a brick if they ever get to 11 though if that's a big deal to you.

>>52521870
>Healing Elixir is a Warlock spell

As if there weren't enough reasons to dip 2 Warlock.

>>52522601
>DM says he rolled max damage on all dice.
so the dm cheated...?

>>52522676
no?

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>>52522676
imagine being this insecure about a game of pretend

5egmegaanon!
Add the new spells to the 5etools!

>>52522697
you always post that image

>>52522711
I'll add them tomorrow. I've had a busy day and a game tonight. No need to worry, they'll get in there eventually.

>>52522697
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvTNyKIGXiI

>>52522721
i'll get in u

>>52522711
Please is a word people sometimes use..

>>52522721
Thank (you)

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The Mega has suffered another DMCA takedown. This is takedown #4! And yet, in just a few seconds, here is the trove again.

>Official /5eg/ Mega Trove v5
https://mega.nz/#F!Go4DlIIS!UfD350ZZPJNe5aeZ0lc_Ug

Please replace the link in the next OP with this one.

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>>52522721
Thanks Me Ganon!

>>52522619
It's SKT so it's gonna happen and I just took a look at the phb... That's just insane, 8 skills he'll never be able to roll under 10 plus modifier. He chose stealth(obviously) as one of his expertise skills so level 11, +4 for prof +4 for expertise, 16 in dex so +3. That means a minimum roll of 21. Jesus. And that's if he doesn't increase dex with ASIs

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>>52522869
o7

>>52522894
At least it isn't perception

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>>52522869
Thanks dude, I'll remember to put that in there.

>>52522923
No but he's got a +2 in wis so that's a minimum roll of 16...

>>52522721
While I understand that you're going to anyway, please don't add this garbage to the tools. We don't need this. We don't want this.

>>52523022
Fuck you, I want it, as does the anon who demanded it first.

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Arch-Heirophant here. Druids are flexible as to sexual orientation. There is literally nothing wrong with this. It says so in the PHB.

>>52523022
We don't want or need you but here you are.

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>>52523022

Putting aside whether Chaos Bolt is strong enough, the important question is: What happens when you crit?

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>>52523191

I think you know what happens.

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>>52522869

>>52523237
>losing business

Probably already answered, but

>>52521213
>>52521180
>>52521283
>>52521305
>>52521340
>>52522607
Puppet does not use your movement, reaction, etc, therefore it does not trigger opportunity attacks.

Movement is movement on your turn. If it meant 'using your speed', it would say using their speed.

>>52523237
What a bitch, was that you? You're a bitch

>>52523237
Oh no, he'll have to reupload it again, something that takes like a few seconds.

What a travesty.

>>52523237
What are you doing in these threads? Shouldn't you be in hospitals pulling plugs on patients because they don't have insurance or something?

So how do we fix Warlock's Blade and Chain pact options?

>>52523191
Big shit. Actually the spell is good with the Metamagic for rerolling dice, the Wild Sorcerer's level 18, Twinned Spell and Critical Hits.

It's got a chance to waste an entire group.

>>52523297
You assume he even has a job, or a life for that matter.

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http://www.strawpoll.me/12485925

Is Mega still fucked sitewide for anyone else?

>>52523331
>No TftYP adventures
>No LMoP

I'm not voting on this one.

>>52523334
DMCA.

>>52523328
I own a game store, and it's bastards like you who are putting us out of business.

>>52523237
>Maybe Mearls senpai will thank me directly this time!
>he might even overnight me some Cummies
Woooow. You're kind of a faggot.

>>52523363
lol eat shit

>>52523363
I play the game and bought the books BECAUSE of bastards like him, shithead.

>>52523363
don't you get all your buisness from Magic the Gathering anyway?

>>52523363
We still buy all the books, idiot. It's just convenient to have a pdf once in a while so I don't have to drag my books everywhere when my group gets together. If WOTC wanted to attract more business, they'd wise up and release their products online as well.

>>52523363
Pirated pdfs have a minimal effect on physical book sales, and no amount of DMCAs will ever scrub information from the internet.

>>52523363
Game stores are fucking awful places where they give table space priority to magic players and war games. Suck a railroad spike.

>>52521989
It's just shouting, anon

>>52522205
While the specifics of what anon said are wrong, the concern is still there. If you ever have a day off of adventuring, you start the next with a bunch of literally free potions. If a warlock gets a few hours of rest in the morning, once again literally free potions for the rest of the day. Along with carry over bullshit we've already experienced, we also have the never-before-seen Short Rest Warlock healing bullshit baked into a singleclass.

>>52523363
>Implying this isn't bait

>>52523369
I'm just doing the right thing.

>>52523392
>books are heavy

I don't work out at all and I have no issue bringing all five of my 5e books to games. Also:
> being so addicted to technology you can't even go 5 hours without it

>>52523363
>Implying being able to view a pdf before buying doesn't actually boost book sales
>Implying anyone dedicated enough to not paying money for things to play entirely with shitty pdfs would have bought anything from your overpriced store anyway

The thing putting you out of business is your terrible business sense.

>>52523443
>all five of my 5e books
>He only brings five books
>laughingdwarves.png

would a triton make for a good barbarian? tavern brawler, specifically

Lawful Evil.

>>52521989
What part of it makes it better than Alarm?

>>52523469
DAmnit meant to link >>52523443

>>52523363
I'm sure they'll repay your loyalty when D&D beyond puts you out of business

:^)

>>52523468
+STR, CON and CHA
yes

>>52523400
>I went to one bad game store so they're all bad.
>table space priority to magic players and war gamers

Well, when you pirate books online and don't even spend any money at the store, why would I give you table priority? Go play in the basement, no one will miss you.

>>52523395
>minimal effect

If you steal a dollar from someone, it's still wrong. Nice relativism.

>>52523390
Most of it.

>>52523357
Tftyp?

I can't help but see all cantrips as bad just because they can't compete with eldritch blast. Was eldritch blast a mistake, or should they just make agonizing blast a higher level prereq. invocations?

also, does any other cantrip gets multiple spell attack rolls as with EB's bolts at higher levels?

Without the pdfs, I wouldn't even be playing the game and WotC and my local game store would have gotten jack shit from me.

>>52523443
>the "right thing"
Yeah, if the right thing is denying people who might not be able to afford the books or get them in their country other wise is the "right thing". If you're right, I'll gladly change alignment to CE and be wrong.

to be honest 5etools has almost replaced the need for a phb, .pdf or otherwise, 100%.

>>52523443
The reason I buy the books is because it's more convenient for my games. But I didn't know that this game was easy to play and make character for until I had downloaded the PDF and had read through it. Then I went out to my FLGS and bought a book. Then another, then another. Now I have two groups that I play with twice a week where everyone has their own book unlike before I found this trove where I wasn't playing at all. PDFs won't stop people from buying the books you numbskull.

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>>52523363
I honestly wouldn't even be into 5e at all and considering buying any 5e related merchandise if the mega trove .pdfs didn't exist to hook me in in the first place.

Way to sell yourself out, internet tough guy.

Not even mad. I'm just disappointed, and pray this is bait.

So what kind of silly nonsense can you make with Artificer and a Ring of Spell Storing?

>>52523363
Just because of this I bought all my books on amazon for less than half of what you faggots sell them for in the stores.

>>52523512
Tales from the Yawning Portal. You know, the thing that the picture is from and has a bunch of adventures in it.

>>52521966
Alright, /5eg/. Other than breaking one shots, economies and the idea that Gentle Repose should be used for anything other than Preserve Skeleton, what's the appeal of Ceremony?

>>52523456
Actually it hurts book sales because of morons like you who can tolerate reading the game rules on a tablet. Mostly because you millenials are so addicted to technology you can't stand to actually roleplay. Your games are saturated with video game and anime references because electronic entertainment has utterly drained your creativity. The new generation of roleplayers is cancer, they cannot envision anything or imagine anything without related it back to Dark Scrolls or Skyrim or Bloodborne or World of Warcraft. Not to mention that nowadays it is impossible to get these fuckers off of their phones for more than 2 seconds, so of course you ADHD morons are splooging your jeans over the creation of an app. Now you have an excuse to stick your fucking face in your phone for half the session. Oh and it makes it easier to cheat when you are pushing buttons all over the phone anyway. Pathetic. Honestly, if every roleplayer under 25 quit the hobby and never returned to it, the quality of games would go up instantly. The problem is that 5e feels the need to bring in all the snowflake options to attract the moronic edgelords who play drow. I have found people on this board who not only played drow characters, but also played a drow as their first-ever D&D character. And half of them don't even know who Drizzt is. So they didn't do it out of adulation for a fictional character, they did it because they wanted to be edgy, or maybe they read some faggy /tg/ greentext on iFunny and decided to check out D&D because of it. As a result the hobby is full of tech-addicted fucks (i.e. most milennials and Gen Zs) and honestly unless you can compete with an ADHD-feeding screen there's not really much point to even trying to DM anymore.

>>52523582
Have fun getting the corners dented in shipping, loser.

>>52523543
>PDFs won't stop people from buying the books you numbskull.

You are still breaking copyright law. What you are doing is effectively stealing, and is morally wrong. I don't expect you to understand, as you've probably never produced anything in your life.

>>52523363
We have a small group and only use one physical set of books at our table, still i'll get the rest of the books i'm missing eventually.

and then well, yeah, the dm will get hold of most of the books and if one of the players wants to check something, he can check our shared folder for references.

also the only game store here with 5e books sells them at full msrp, so we have to ship them from amazon to our shit country if we don't want to waste an extra 20 bux on them.

>>52521870

So next character I want to play is a dual wielding (inb4 hurr edgy mcdrizzt) paladin with the oath of the ancients.

What Im having a little bit of trouble figuring out is the magic components. Verbal is fine, and Material can be replaced with a holy symbol necklace. But I dont know about Somatic? Do I have to sheath one of my weapons to cast a spell with Somatic component?

>>52523324
>It's got a chance to waste an entire group.
It could hit an entire group, but it doesn't really have the damage potential to do more than tickle anything in particular.

>>52523613
>wahh things are different now

eat shit faggot.

>tolerate reading the game rules on a tablet
>implying a tablet isn't superior to a book in every way except needing a battery

>>52523363
No, that would be online retailers selling the same product for far cheaper because they're operating on a superior business model and you're too retarded to figure out ways to ensure customer loyalty to bridge that price gap.

>>52523582
fucking this to be quite fucking honest, i'm not paying 50+ for a book i KNOW my store just bought from amazon as well, and is trying to make the entire difference.

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>>52523613
>You damn kids today and your 'Dark Scrolls'

>>52521898
>>52521980
It actually really bothers me that Marriage says "A creature can benefit from this ceremony just once," rather than "A pair of creatures can benefit from this ceremony just once." You apparently cannot remarry after being divorced or widowed, and societies aren't allowed to be polygamous.

>>52523518
I think cantrips are more meant to be utility than to compete with EB damage.

>>52523520
>if they hadn't let me steal I wouldn't have bought it anyway
>therefore stealing is morally acceptable

Fuck off.

>>52523530
>Yeah, if the right thing is denying people who might not be able to afford the books or get them in their country

Then they should vote for their country to change those laws. Also, just because of those laws does not give them a right to steal from Wizards of the Coast.

So, yes, it is the right thing to do to remove all pirated PDFs of the 5e books from online.

>>52523627
Did you not read my post? I bought the books, I paid in full what my FLGS put out for the price and then got other people to buy the books too. If anything, the PDFs paid for themselves and then some. I don't understand what your--->>52523613 oh, now it all makes sense.

>>52523613
>And half of them don't even know who Drizzt is.
I fail to see anything bad in your post.

>>52523634
Why does dual wielding mean edgy mcdrizzt now? Drow I can see, but dual-wielding? Nah.

>>52523630
>so we have to ship them from amazon to our shit country if we don't want to waste an extra 20 bux on them.

Your fault for not switching countries. That is not Wizards of the Coast's problem. Tell me, is it acceptable to underpay your rent just because you got an apartment you couldn't afford? I don't think so.

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>>52523613
Is this copy pasta, bait, or a legitimate spergout? You might have crippling autism, anon.

>>52523658
They only gain the bonus once; they can still go through the ceremony as many times as your DM decides.

>>52523665
>China
>vote
You're a retard and now I know you're trolling.

>>52523644
Books don't need batteries and they don't have the unholy glow of LEDs. If you can stand reading a tablet for hours on end without eyestrain, be my guest.

>>52523654
Oh I have customer loyalty. I'm doing fine. But I'd be doing better if you fucks stopped breaking the law.

>>52523694
>>52523694
>>52523677
>t. 19 year olds who got into RPGs after watching Critical Roll and Stranger Things.

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>>52523613

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>>52523613
>When you get the call from the boss that you need to go battle the evil internet pirates stealing all that business money

>>52523707
>I'm doing fine
>>52523363
>it's bastards like you who are putting us out of business.

Can't even keep your story straight.

>>52523722
You missed all marks, friendo.

>>52523707
So you give no fucks about the actual store got it, just trying to be a cuck. Just like people who bitch about pirating music and games. Fuck off.

>>52523705
Then leave the country. For fucks sake. It's not that hard.

Typical millenial behavior, blaming their issues on the world instead of taking action to change it. And using it as justification to break the law. The. Law. Period. It is against the law to share D&D books online, because you are supposed to pay for those. Peoples' livelihoods depend on them and if they had to do it as a side hobby the rules would suck even more than they already do.

I hope Wizards traces your IP and takes legal action against you.

>>52523707
>If you can stand reading a tablet for hours on end without eyestrain, be my guest.
Turn down the brightness dumbass.

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>>52523686
Why DOES dual wielding have to be edgy? Why does it even have to be Drow?

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>>52523707

>>52523747
Consequences will never be the same.

>>52523741
>"us" and "I" are the same thing

Do you think game store owners never communicate with each other? My friend has stopped carrying D&D books because of all the motherfuckers who pirate them, and I think I'll be following suit. I sure won't be ordering more of them. And when people ask why I don't have them, I will tell them EXACTLY why.

>>52523775
..And then those people will just get PDFs.

>>52523759
>Turn down the brightness dumbass.

Try reading a book, dumbass.

>>52523775
>And when people ask why I don't have them, I will tell them EXACTLY why.
Which will cause them to pirate them more, which will cause other game stores to not carry them, which will cause people to pirate them more, etc.

Congrats, you're no better than us.

>>52523634
War.
Caster.
Feat.

>>52523698
Yeah, it still feels dumb that the gods only recognize your first marriage to the abusive bastard who beat you every night until you finally divorced him, but not the subsequent marriage to the man who actually loves you.

>>52523707
>Books don't need batteries and they don't have the unholy glow of LEDs. If you can stand reading a tablet for hours on end without eyestrain, be my guest.
I've never had a problem with this. Then again I use a brightness of -16 to -46 when indoors, because I'm not inept with technology like you are.

>Captha: Books

>>52523505
>If you steal a dollar from someone
But nothing has been stolen. No property has changed hands.

Downloading a pdf is merely copying information. Would you say that a person with photographic memory who reads the entire book while borrowing it from a friend, and thus possesses all the information with no need to buy it, is also stealing it?

>>52523686
>Your fault for not switching countries.
har har har

but is it acceptable for my landlord to overcharge me just because i can afford more? fuck you and your closed market communist bullshit, the world is an open market, if you can't offer a competitive price then you lose your share of the market to someone who can.

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>>52523722
Have some smug anime to finally trigger your cardiac arrest.

>>52523788
They are going to anyway because they are greedy cunts, so why does it matter? I'll carry one of two of the books but they hardly sell like they used to.

>>52523795
>Congrats, you're no better than us.

Except, I have money on the line, and all you have is your lack of willingness to spend 50 bucks to support the developers of a game. These things cost money, you know. Not everything comes out of thin air. These are concepts millenials don't seem to understand. That's why they all want to program apps instead of starting real businesses.

>>52523760
>Why DOES dual wielding have to be edgy? Why does it even have to be Drow?

I dunno, I didn't know the drow meme had gotten that pervasive.

>>52523790
Try reading a book in the darkness and get back to me, dumbass.

>>52523799
Gods ain't gonna just give out that fat +2 AC willy-nilly anon, otherwise there'd be fearsome armies of homos who ritual-marry before combat.

>>52523686
>>52523760
Most people think 'dual wielding looks cool!' when it really isn't any good other other options (i.e. paladins) and considering that in real life it's probably not as great as people make it out to be either.

It's 'doing it for the cool' over 'doing it for functionality' that tends to drive edginess, quite often.

>>52522869
thanks

>>52523799
Well at least you got the AC bonus the first night.

>>52523775
Cool, so you're doing them a favor by ensuring that they buy them from Amazon at a significantly lower price. Sounds to me like you're just being driven out of the market by superior competition.

>>52523821
Sell them for a reasonable price and people will buy them jackass. It's like you literally know nothing about running a business.

>>52523237
lol

>>52523806
I just read the book which costs the same as the tablet and doesn't require battery or anything like that. And yeah, turn down the brightness so you can barely read it. LED screens are shit.

>>52523809
>people are stealing from you? It's the free market faggot fucking deal with it git gud lmao

This is what you sound like.

>>52523808
>But nothing has been stolen.
You have downloaded a PDF you are not supposed to have access to.

> Would you say that a person with photographic memory who reads the entire book while borrowing it from a friend, and thus possesses all the information with no need to buy it, is also stealing it?

Yes. But those people are extremely rare, so it's not as much of a problem. You are stealing intellectual property. The United States recognizes it as a concept, as does international law. Your little backwater shit country is nothing special. You are stealing, just because your nation has no morals does not change the fact of the matter.

>>52523833
You say that like it's a bad thing

>>52523821
>Lack of willingness to spend 50 bucks to support the developers

How many people do you think are going to suddenly think 'Oh, I want to play some DnD', walk into a game store and buy a 50 dollar book without even knowing what's going on with it?
Not a lot.

With online .pdfs, it has a much wider reach that doesn't require people to find a specific type of shop, go there and spend money before they even know if the system is any good or not.

Then, once somebody reading through the .pdf catches interest, they'll try to find friends. They'll make a group, and they'll go buy the books for it so they can pass the books around the table.

Or, you know, you could just stop those .pdfs from showing up online and stop those damn whippersnappers from buying your books, because hot damn we sure hate people buying stuff.

>>52523634
Read the material component section of the PHB on page 203:

"A spellcaster must have a hand free to access a spell's material components - or to hold a spellcasting focus - but it can be the same hand that he or she uses to perform the somatic components."

Now go and read what it says about Holy Symbols on page 151 of the PHB:

"A cleric or paladin can use a holy symbol as a spellcasting focus as described in chapter 10."

No need to have a free hand if that hand is grasping your holy symbol, bonus points if that symbol is on a shield. Don't have to drop the shield. Cast and swing away my friend!

>>52523862
Information can't be stolen. If it can, then every group who uses a communal book is guilty of information theft except for the individual who actually owns the book.

>>52523862
>And yeah, turn down the brightness so you can barely read it.
Like I said, I have no problem reading it, not with my eyes being strained after hours of reading because, once again, unlike you, I'm not inept with technology.

Battery is a non-issue for me, since a majority of my reading is done near an outlet anyway. I can also read in the dark, unlike you with your book.

>>52523821
Mate, as one of the "19yo milleniels" you quoted, my next shipment comes in this week. Bussiness is growing now and everything is fine. And the Dragon's Lair, my FLGS has most of its sales in Magic, tabletop games and Heroclix.

>>52523831
Do you often play D&D in the dark?

>>52523834
Dual-wielding let's you attack twice as fast though.

>>52523834
That actually makes quite a bit of sense. Hell dual wielding a blade is probably more manageable than guns akimbo which I KNOW has got to be utterly bullshit to actually try to do. Aiming and shooting with my off hand when I have another gun in my dominant hand sounds like a headache.

>wah wah Wild Cunning destroys survival
>Except we already had the Spell good berries.

Seems fine

A guy who runs a store in my city always reacts like this guy over everything. Wonder if one day he will realise its not because of piracy or online stores that barely anyone goes to his shop but because he is a massive prick.

>>52523911
>Let's you attack twice as fast

PAM let's you attack three times as fast, with modifiers added.

>>52523363
Well then, let's hope the bastards do put you out of business so you can't shitpost anymore.

>>52523363
These books are expensive as fuck here in Brazil, just fuck off ok.

>>52523902
>If it can, then every group who uses a communal book is guilty of information theft except for the individual who actually owns the book.

Yes. That's why you're not allowed to show DVDs to large crowds without special permission. >>52523895
>How many people do you think are going to suddenly think 'Oh, I want to play some DnD', walk into a game store and buy a 50 dollar book without even knowing what's going on with it?
>Not a lot.

That's why the starter set is only 19.99.

> With online .pdfs, it has a much wider reach that doesn't require people to find a specific type of shop, go there and spend money before they even know if the system is any good or not.

Well, D&D isn't any good, but normalfags really don't have much distinction because they don't know jack shit about RPGs, they'll buy what they are told to buy.

>>52523911
>He doesn't read the dnd bible before going to sleep.
And you deign yourself worthy to tell us what's right or not? You're pleb tier.

>>52523911
>Do you often play D&D in the dark?

Yes? What kind of dumb question is this?
Why would I keep the lights on for roll20?

>>52523885
>People with photographic memory commit crime every time they read a book
WEW LAD, that's some commie thoughtcrime bullshit right there.

>>52523903
>it works for me, so anyone who doesn't use it is a faggot

Cool.

>>52523941
> playing games online because he's either too overworked or too socially anxious to interact with people in real life

Disgusting.

>>52523944
Don't blame the commies for this one.

>>52523747
>Just leave your military dictatorship
>American company
>legal action in China
Americans can't be this dumb. No, I think I'll keep my 40,000£ a year job teaching rich kids and businessmen English and stay, and keep pirating books.

>>52523885
>People with photographic memory should get their receptive organs removed in the case they perceive any intellectual property since they have a permanent copy in their brain

>>52523935
>If it can, then every group who uses a communal book is guilty of information theft except for the individual who actually owns the book.
>Yes.
Ok now you've crossed the line between "maybe this fag is actually serious" to "100% confirmed troll".

>>52523931
Agreed, I'm not sure how these people still have a business if their main source of income is MtG. Who the fuck buys packs? Maybe sleeves but that's about it from the game store.

Why did they make cutting words and combat inspiration so similar, yet felt the need to make one of them worse than the other?

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>millennials
>Stranger Things
>"Nobody knows who Drizzt is anymore!"
>"Nobody under 25 should play D&D!"

I was annoyed at you for sending a takedown email, but you made up for it by being such a hilarious spaz.

>>52523862
who is stealing, i'm literally paying for a product at the legal price that suits me the best.


if the store thinks they have a monopoly and can charge whatever the fuck they want, i'm literally free to not buy from them and buy from someone else that sells it a better price.

>>52523944
Not if they paid for it. Not to mention at least SOMEONE spent money on the book that people are sharing. The company gets something. Whereas loads of these fucks are just downloading books they didn't even pay for for free.

Just because it happens somewhere else, doesn't mean it's okay for you to do it, too.

Or, you can just remove all IP-related laws and watch the creative industry crash and burn.

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>>52523958
>Cool.
The argument against me is literally propagating the same thing from the other side. Maybe you shouldn't talk shit when you don't want it flung back at you.

>>52523994
>who is stealing, i'm literally paying for a product at the legal price that suits me the best.

$0.00 is not "paying a price", it's robbery. It's not legal, either. IP laws are binding and piracy constitutes theft. Deal with it.

>>52523989
> being annoyed at someone for obeying the law.

>>52523958
>Not playing online even in person

Roll20 is objectively superior to a tabletop with papers and minis making a damn mess, just as .pdfs are superior to books.

>Line of Sight
>Lighting in general
>Art being easier to make and no need to print it out
>DM messages are 100% discreet
>ease of organization

And if you aren't in person, you can play with your group even if some of them are around the world or can't make it over for whatever reason.

>>52524000
Except it won't. I'm pretty sure Kayne got all pissy about people pirating one of his latest albums, so even less people started to buy it and pirated it even more. If your product is good enough people will buy it. Also boo hoo an artist cant afford their 4th summer home.

>>52523931
I'd just file for bankruptcy and go back to my old job, easy-peasy. It's good when you have actual skills and connections in the world. It kind of comes from not being an entitled twat, like milennials who think they should get their D&D books for free.

>>52523932
Move out of Brazil, or pay the price. "wahh it's expensive" does not give you the right to steal.

>>52524019
It's legal here in spicland.
As long as I don't sell it.

>>52524019
>Being annoyed at someone for being an inconvenience
He's True neutral, you're acting more akin to lawful dumb.

>>52524053
>As long as I don't sell it

Wait does that mean you can still hand it out freely?

>>52523935
Well, a lot of people online are here online because they don't feel like going out and buying shit.

Having a freebie on the internet extends D&D's reach much, much further than having people have to walk somewhere and buy it in the physical world.
And, let's say 1/10 of those people would have actually bought the books otherwise.
8/10 of those people would never have bought the books, but got it as a .pdf.
The last 1/10 wouldn't have bought the books, but found it as a .pdf, grew to like the game and then bought the books.
In such a case, it would work out. There'd be more people in the hobby as a whole, people are generally more content because they can just mail their friend the rulesets and discuss it easily online and all of that and people can read up the rules from themself instead of only getting it when they're at the DM's house.

Now, of course, you have to question what the real statistics are. It could go either way - There could be more or there could be less business. But how the hell do we know? There's probably statistics somewhere, but unless you can pull up some of those statistics it's a bit lacking to just say 'Eh, people will buy shit anyway because they're told to buy it but then they all get .pdfs instead'.

Heck, some of the people on here actively try to spend money towards the developers for whatever reason, even if they don't have to, and I'm sure they've used plenty of the .pdfs here.

>>52523630
>>52524019
>$0.00
i'm fucking buying them from amazon, you retard. how about reading for once in your life?

>>52524063
Yes.

>>52524019
>IP laws are binding and piracy constitutes theft. Deal with it.

I'm going to do it anyways, and laugh while doing so. Deal with it.

What are you going to do about it?

>>52524073
That is... fuckin neat.

>>52524042
>Move out of Brazil
>Don't even have money to pay your bills

Sure

>>52524037
>Also boo hoo an artist cant afford their 4th summer home.

Wow you clearly don't know shit. I bet you think anyone who works for a big name company makes six figures at the expense of poor you, the REAL hardworker who pulls a double shift at Starbucks.

>>52524030
Downside: I have to sit at my computer and stare at tiny pictures of my friends faces while messing with some shitty program and dealing with other people having shitty microphones.

>counting squares is hard
>using art to compensate for shitty description
>not having lights in your house yet having a computer

Wow.

I will give you the DM messages being discreet, though. That is probably the only advantage of roll20, besides the one you forgot to mention, and the only real one: it lets you stay glued to your computer like the ADHD fuck you are.

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>Lol, just immigrate to a different country dude
>Ugh, millennials are so privileged!

All in the same post too. You must have zero self-awareness.

>>52524101
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmR89bFZLdc

Im pretty sure this is the same dude.

>>52524102
i want that guy to stay in his containment board.

>>52524085
It's a blessing in college.
As long as you aren't profiting, it's ok.
So of course the music industry has people going from business to business checking you aren't playing music you didn't pay for.

This age old bullshit debate about piracy. Just because someone pirates something does not mean they would have went out and bought it otherwise. In fact, it's not even close to a 1:1 ratio. I like to read the books and roll some characters but I don't play in an actual game. If this thread/MEGA wasn't here I'd just go make 3.0 characters or PF characters or play WoW or something. I would wager that having this MEGA up has actually helped WotC financially, because it allows people to learn about and experiment with the game before committing to a $50 handbook. Everyone on here recommends the Starter Set, I've bet we've sold a hundred of those alone over the years.

>>52524060
>using alignments to describe real world behavior

You are severely autistic.

>>52524064
So a bunch of people online are ripping off Wizards of the Coast? You forget that there is a basic set of rules for FREE on the WotC website. THAT is what you are allowed to use. NOT the PDFs that you illegally pirated.

God I pity game developers having to deal with you entitled twats.

>>52524124
Man I haven't thought about that shit forever.

Makes me want to look behind the meme. What happened to those people? Did they learn from their mistakes? Have people from other similar memes?

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>people still responding to the 0 effort bait

>>52524064
>Heck, some of the people on here actively try to spend money towards the developers for whatever reason, even if they don't have to, and I'm sure they've used plenty of the .pdfs here.

Not necessarily here, but I found the PDF for Blades in the Dark while watching Rollplay: Blades and I plan on buying the book. I might never play it, but damn it looks good, well put together and John Harper deserves it. If I have some extra cash after taxes, I'm definitely forking over money.

>>52524132
no idea which part of spicland you are from, but from my part of spicland, i'm sure that there's a bunch of copyright laws and shit but i've never, ever, seen or heard of them ever being enforced.

>>52524081
Nothing. I hope you don't rely on FLGS for anything, because they will soon be a thing of the past. Have fun trolling roll20 for a DM actually willing to run games for your autistic ass. You might be happy, but there are loads of anons on /tg/ who can't even get into a game because they are trying to play online where there is zero accountability.

>>52524090
Get a real job.

>>52524154
falseflag harder, communist apologist!

Friendly reminder to not reply to bait or trolls.

>>52524133
I never buy the books, but have blown my inheritance on the official minis which having free books have indulged me to get into the hobby

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>>52524154
Sometimes there just isn't anything better to do around here.

>>52524133
>I like to read the books and roll some characters but I don't play in an actual game

That doesn't excuse you breaking the law. "Oh officer I wasn't going to smoke this weed, I was just going to LOOK at it. You CAN'T arrest me now"

>>52524102
>hard work and accomplishment means you are privileged

Yeah that sounds like the millenial dogma all right.

>>52524175
>I hope you don't rely on FLGS for anything
Yep, I have literally never been in a GS, "FL" or otherwise, despite playing d&d and other /tg/s since I was 12.

>>52524207
>That doesn't excuse you breaking the law.
bait

>>52524133
>I would wager that having this MEGA up has actually helped WotC financially, because it allows people to learn about and experiment with the game before committing to a $50 handbook.

That's why they released the basic set for free online. Do you actually think your shitty mega has more exposure than a PDF available on the actual fucking web site? I know one other gamer in real life who browses /tg/. I know at least a dozen who started out with the 5e basic set PDF then bought the books.

You are just breaking the law. You are a common criminal and I hope Wizards sues the shit out of you one day.

>>52524209
How did you pull that off? Granted these days you wouldn't even need to go outside to buy shit.

>>52524222
bait

>>52524154
There's not much to discuss about 5e. Mechanically it is empty and boring, thanks to Merals raping the chargen to pander to grognards and casuals. So all that's really left is to rehash build X or Y, or have another inane discussion about fluff, or post terribly unbalanced homebrews or share LMAOnat20 stories.

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>>52524207
Tasty bait, my dog

>>52524219
>>52524242
No, it's true. Saying "bait" does not disprove the fact that sharing a Mega of copyrighted material is a violation of IP law. Sorry if that makes you angry, sorry if you can't buy the books in your country, but that is not Wizards of the Coast's fault, stop being so entitled and thinking that just because something is wrong, that gives you the right to be a criminal.

Given how weak Mystic Orders are, what's the best combination of starting Disciplines possible?

I have this concept for a pure mind blaster but he also has to have stealth stuff. I'm thinking chameleon and assault as two out of three but no idea of what to take for the third. nomad gives me stealth proficiency on a long rest, and chameleon advantage, but i could also get two from awakened and chameleon, and get stealth from my background. Imagine someone that has to enter towns, fuck shit up and then leave unnoticed.

>>52524124

Nah he's dead.

>>52524266
bait

>>52524225
>Step 1- live in the ass end of nowhere where the closest game store is 50 miles away
>Step 2- Get books off Ebay
>Step 3- Once the Internet became what it is today, just get books off there instead

And once Roll20 came out I can now play with my friends despite the fact that we've all moved away to civilization after high school.

So wait, am I reading snare right that the snares you make are permanent unless triggered or you choose to dispel them? And that making a new snare does not replace a previous one?

A ranger with enough time on their hands could just boobytrap an entire area if they felt like it. Force a saving throw every 5 feet.

>>52524281
Shit. I mean I never used Ebay. Never trusted it. Had good results from GameStop and Amazon though.

>>52524222
>your principle is wrong as demonstrated by the exact same principle, only working
>because the difference is scale
>yours doesn't have it therefore it doesn't matter
>it doesn't matter and therefore is morally wrong


So what you're saying is that if Mega had as much exposure as the Wizards site, then it'd okeley dokey, and therefore we must proliferate that resource far beyond 4chan

I am e-mailing that link to my every group of friends who runs or plays in tables in the country as we speak. Thanks anon.

>>52524305
I've always had good luck with Ebay, but I also only bought things off sellers with a lot of "rating" or whatever it was called back then.

I didn't know Amazon was a thing until I was like 18.

>>52524152
The chick is now trans and dying or something

>>52524309
>So what you're saying is that if Mega had as much exposure as the Wizards site, then it'd okeley dokey, and therefore we must proliferate that resource far beyond 4chan

No, because Wizards of the Coast owns that intellectual property and thus has the right to distribute it as they see fit. You do not. Boom.

>>52521961
Zephyr Strike's advantage and movespeed only work once per spellcast. It says "the first time on one of your turns", not "the first time on each of your turns". It's basically just a provision to prevent you from triggering it on reactions and letting you use it in a later round than the one when you cast the spell.

>>52524334
Yeah that sounds about right.

>>52524336
Actually, they made it an open license.
So I actually do hold the rights to distribution.

>>52524336
I have the right to distribute it because there is no consequences for doing so unless I actively try to get caught, and there is nothing you can do about it.

Boom.

>>52521940
Priests sometimes are clerics.

>>52524336
I'm a wizards employee. I chose to distribute the link privately amongst my group. Checkmate.

>>52524359

That's... not how rights work.

>>52524409
True.

>>52524359
You can get away with murder, too, doesn't mean you have the right to murder. Nihilist.

>>52524354
So? feel free to distribute the basic set as you please. However, you may NOT distribute the 5e PHB itself.

>>52524408
Being an employee does not give you ownership of IP. Stop being retarded.

>Checkmate.

Go back to Reddlt.

>>52524126
>containment board.
I'm assuming you're talking about /pol/, but that's wrong, /pol/ is mostly libertarian and/or ancap, neither of which believe in bullshit IP laws.

Fundamentally, raw information cannot be considered property. A book can be considered property, but the information contained within cannot, because if it is you run into silly things like photographic memory and physical book sharing being criminal.

If your business model relies heavily in disseminating raw information you need to figure out how to operate at a profit despite people attempting to copy the information without paying you. You could do this by attaching the information to a physical book, if it's a nice book people will buy it because a significant portion of the population likes books. You could do this by attaching attaching DRM to your information, it'll cut down on copying immensely but also probably alienate some legitimate customers that get caught in the crossfire since no DRM system is perfect. You could do it by funding your projects with crowdfunding and accepting donations, which is highly effective if you can maintain good community relations and totally ineffective if you can't. No matter which method you choose there will always be some portion of consumers who will simply pay you on principle, and some who won't under any circumstances, and these portions will change based on how good your customer satisfaction is.

Which isn't to say the government can't make a law declaring that information is property, but the government can also make a law declaring all people named Bob are homosexual and must die, or that mowing your lawn at 2PM on a Friday is a capital offense. The existence of a law does not determine the truth or morality of something.

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>>52524289
Time to lure the party into my bondage magical realm

I'm going to be taking Magic Initiate Cleric for my Wizard to get ceremony. What cantrips should I grab? I already have a damage cantrip, Minor Illusion and prestidigation.

What are the most common languages that might be spoken in a city? Currently have Common, Elvish, Dwarvish and Gnomish with space for one more

>>52524458
>because if it is you run into silly things like photographic memory and physical book sharing being criminal.

It is. It's just harder to enforce than PDF distribution online which is much more blatant.

Yes, if you go into Barnes and Noble and spend the entire day reading books there and buy nothing, you are a criminal.

>>52524475
Guidance spare the dying are the "best" but light and thaumaturgy are good as well.

>>52524497
I'm talking somewhere on the sword coast by the way, probably Waterdeep

>>52524438
>So?
If it's an open license, I have the right to freely distribute the product as long as I don't try to profit from it or represent it as my own material
It's not stealing. It's trading the product in exchange for brand awareness, which translates into future sales.

It's basic business sense. Maybe if you knew that, your games shop wouldn't be, as you said "being run out of business"

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>>52524497
>Gnomish
Undercommon and Draconic

>>52524458
You know I have no clue how IP Laws could even be involved in morality. A lot of the holders are Grade A assclowns who have fuckloads of money already and I dunno other bullshit because this seems to come up all the time.

>>52524497
Usually, common is the main language spoken. Gnomes usually speak elvish or common. Not every race needs its own language. Like why are goblin and orc separate? Why do we even need all these races? Why do we need gnomes AND halflings? Races have no value in themselves and just fuck with the versimilitude of a setting where you end up with 30 different races for no apparent reason.

>>52524497
>racial languages
Gross.

Take a goblin/assorted sewer dweller type language to deal with criminal scum.

>>52524497
Halfling, Undercommon maybe

>>52524475

Guidance is good. Thaumaturgy is great for your gandalf DO NOT TAKE ME FOR A CONJURER OF CHEAP TRICKS moments

>>52524524
You do not have the right to distribute the Players Handbook as a PDF. Wizards has not given you that permission. Have fun trying to get a lawyer to back you up on this.

>>52524530
>A lot of the holders are Grade A assclowns who have fuckloads of money already and I dunno other bullshit because this seems to come up all the time.

Just because you think they are dickheads, does not mean they do not deserve the protection of the law. Another non-argument.

Which cantrip can make my pen0r seem bigger

>>52524561
Minor illusion

>>52524561
Seem? Minor Illusion.

Why do people play 1 on 1 games? Wouldn't it just be better to suck each other's cocks? Or is that session #2?

>>52524585
Ok. How about make it ACTUALLY bigger...?

>>52524557
>You do not have the right to distribute the Players Handbook as a PDF. Wizards has not given you that permission. Have fun trying to get a lawyer to back you up on this.
They did tho. It's what the entire premise of the DM's guild is for.
It's how every d&d app on the google play store makes its money


Like, I know you're baiting, but now you're being stupid.

>>52524607
>>52524561
You can use Prestidigitation to make is stank.

>>52524595
>Why do people play 1 on 1 games?
it's lame and gay

>>52524607
Enlarge/Reduce

>>52524502
You have a strange conception of both property rights and morality, which I'm assuming is based more on self-interest and adherence to the current legal status quo than any rational consistency.

>>52524595
What's wrong with a one on one game, besides ignorant people assuming you are being sexual?

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>>52524607
Minor conjuration

>>52524607
Shillelagh

>>52524557
>Have fun trying to get a lawyer to back you up on this.
Not an argument. Law is not an arbiter of truth or subjective morality.

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>>52524647

>>52524458

>Fundamentally, raw information cannot be considered property. A book can be considered property, but the information contained within cannot, because if it is you run into silly things like photographic memory and physical book sharing being criminal.

"Yes I know you spent the last five years of your life coding this program, but one of the engineers who quit last week copied down all the code we had so far onto his personal device and then sold it to our competitor. They've already launched and beat us to market. Yes apparently that's completely legal because he didn't steal anything physical and we live in a world where intellectual property laws don't exist for some fucking reason."

>>52524607
Alter Self, choose Change Appearance into someone that has a bigger dick? Or just focus on your dick?

>>52524622
Well so is sucking each other's cock. So why not skip the middleman?

>>52524635
D&D is always perceived as a team game, working together with friends to go on a quest. If you wanted to play alone, go play Dragon Quest or Zelda. D&D is supposed to provide a different experience, something nothing else can't provide

>>52524497
As other people already said, halflings are one of the common races but in most settings they will only speak common. it's kind of a given stuck up elves will speak in elvish, but halflings probably only speak their own language in their houses to their grandmas. Fuck gnomes, no one like gnomes. Decide which is the mandatory 'shunned' race and make that a language, because those that are to properly integrated do to stigma and whatnot, won't be eager to learn the local language.

>>52524633
Kek, he probably thinks libraries should be outlawed.

>>52524657
You were literally just saying they had granted you the legal right to distribute the material. Stop shifting your argument.

>>52524665
>Focus on your dick
>Dick Focus
>Use your dick to cast spells

>>52524672
At least libraries pay some money to the creators. You are just ripping them off entirely, while actively distributing the material in an effort to hurt sales.

If information has value, it can be stolen. Otherwise information has no value and you have no reason to be playing D&D.

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>>52524681

I gotta create a character for a group with a paladin, a ranger and a lore bard. Suggestions?

How does polymorph work when you cast it on yourself?

>>52524677
No, he said the OGL grants him the right, and it does, as long as he doesn't also share the actually copyright material of art and specific wizards ip names like Mordenkainen. Paizo did the same song and dance with Wizards about Pathfinder.

>>52524666
A one on one game is unlike anything a videogame can provide, as it is essentially cooperative storytelling between two people, which is very different from "push buttons in patterns to unlock story".

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>>52524694
The guy who scanned the PDF payed money to the creators too you dumdum.

>>52524706
Wizard or Cleric

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>>52524712
>as long as he doesn't also share the actually copyright material of art and specific wizards ip names like Mordenkainen.

Which is what is contained in the PDFs. Therefore, stop sharing them.

>>52523833
>otherwise there'd be fearsome armies of homos who ritual-marry before combat.

We Band of Thebes now

>>52524706
an Arcane caster. Bards don't count. Try for something bulky. Non-UA I'd say a Dragonborn sorcerer with a high con. Any Draconic or Stone Sorcerer would work. Stone is UA though. If you can make a slightly defensive Warlock, you could do that too. Hexblade? Also UA though.

>>52524664
That's why you make your employees sign a binding legal document agreement forbidding them from doing that. In fact as far as I know that's standard business practice already.

>>52524725
A library is also government-funded and licensed. Not to mention they provide books on a temporary loan. If you somehow manage to memorize an entire PHB, then you should be subject to criminal penalties in my opinion, or at least be forced to pay for the book. It's no different than people who go into Barnes and Noble and read entire books before leaving and paying zero money. That's why bookstores are going out of business and why books cost a metric fuckton.

>>52524725
>>52524694
>>52524672
>>52524633
>>52524502
>>52524458

ALL OF YOU NEED SOME EDUCATION IN THE FORM OF CATCHY MUSIC AND APPEALING ANIMATION

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeTybKL1pM4

>>52524733
I use the github resource which 200% legal.

But you're still a cunt. :^)

>>52524742
I'm really avoiding CHA-based classes.

Got a 18 CHA paladin and a bard covering CHA skills already. Also, UA is not restricted, but most of races are.

>>52523707
>If you can stand reading a tablet for hours on end without eyestrain, be my guest.

I can because I am a healthy human with healthy human eyes and because software like f.lux exists.

> healing elixer was fine when it was a class fwature on artificer wizard
> making it into a regular spell somehow change this

???

>>52524733
The free SRD tied to the OGL actually seems to have pretty much everything from the PH in it.

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>>52524774
Then you are not the kind of person I am referring to. I am referring to the person who shared the 5e PHB PDFs in full up above, who is violating the law. There was already one DMCA takedown of those PDFs. Now there will be another, and I will be keeping an eye on these threads from now on so you people stop doing this shit. Have a good night. I hope you learn your lesson and stop breaking the law soon, anons.

>>52524789
Then I hope you love books, stuffy towers and beards, cuz yer a wizard 'arry. Or a Land Druid I guess.

>>52524752
>If you somehow manage to memorize an entire PHB, then you should be subject to criminal penalties in my opinion
are you for real?

>>52524762
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGM8PT1eAvY

>>52524824
No he is a troll, stop feeding him.

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I have 67GB of PDFs

It ain't easy bein' cheesy.

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Will drinking lead filled water give me a resistance to magic?

>>52524852
Technically yes.
But the magic will reach most of your system anyway.

>>52521966
Marriage just for the implications

>People marrying to metagame
>Bonus only lasts 24 hours implying that's how long love lasts
>It only works on a creature once in its lifetime with no divorce spell

>>52524852
No, but it'll make you think you are.

>>52524677
You're mixing up people's arguments, you've got multiple people making vaguely similar arguments at you simultaneously.

I'm >>52524458
I agree that sharing pdfs is totally illegal. But just because something is illegal does not necessarily make it wrong, considering the law is an ever-changing morass of arbitrary rules created by people who by nature can be any combination or magnitude of fallible, corruptible, gullible, or just plain stupid.

"It's wrong because the law says so" is a poor argument at best. Being gay is wrong in Saudi Arabia (but not in the USA) because the law says so, so does the objective moral status of gayness change based on location just because the law does? What if a law was passed tomorrow that made being gay wrong in the USA, would it become wrong? Or the opposite, what if we eliminated all laws saying that pedophilia was wrong, would it in fact no longer be wrong just because we don't have a law saying so?

The legal status is not in question, but if you want to convince someone not to do something you either need to enforce it so completely and harshly that people are too scared to do it, or you need to convince them it is objectively morally wrong. You'll never prevent internet piracy in the modern world through enforcement, so if you want to stop it you need to construct a moral argument against it.

>>52524852
No, but drinking alcohol from a lead goblet will result in a delicious lead/sugar residue at the bottom of your cup which tastes great with chips, and can bring down empires.

>>52524868
>married couples can only divorce through the act of an arcane ritual

top kek

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>Go workout
>Come back to the same spaz who is obviously a troll

Jesus people how are you this dense?

>>52524852
It might. It will also give you abdominal pain, constipation, headaches, irritability, memory problems, inability to have children, and tingling in the hands and feet.

It causes almost 10% of intellectual disability of otherwise unknown cause and can result in behavioral problems. Some of the effects are permanent.

In severe cases anemia, seizures, coma, or death may occur.

Basically, do it.

>>52524816
Goddammit. I'm already playing a wizard with other group. I think I might play a mystic. A sneaky type, maybe.

>>52521961
Why are people put off by Toll the Dead being save or take d12 when Poison Spray exists? Is it just because wisdom vs con?

>>52524948
>Mystic

If you want everyone to hate you, sure.

Your only other exception, besides Land Druid, would be Tempest Cleric. Light Clerics are meh. People here really seem to like Tempest Cleric a lot.

>>52524971
Not only is it a Wisdom Save but it has a 60 Feet range vs Poison Sprays 10 Feet.

Which means its neat.

>>52524733

>It wasn't stealing so it was okay, but now it says Mordenkeinen so now it's wrong

>If it's legal, it's not excuse because it's still morally wrong
>If it's morally right, it's no excuse because it's still illegal

Anon, you might just be retarded

>>52524971
Clerics don't get poison spray, and poison is by far the worst damage type, and 10ft range.

>>52524971
People who post balance criticisms on this board rarely know what they're talking about.