Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

first for templars

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>>52510189
Blood Axes are da best klan!

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Easily the in the bottom right, SoB can't be hot

>>52510336
CAN* be hot

friendly reminder you can't spell games workshop without orks

>>52510189
A Busty Hive Tyrant MILF

fite me

>>52510189
slaanesh
I mean idk who'd be doing the fucking but I'd probably have a good time anyway

No Nuns With Guns for the new Shadow Wars thing? That's kinda disappointing.

>>52510429
I figure they'll get added when SoB actually get plastics. I know there are rumors that they'll get a push with 8th edition, so we'll see if it's true.

Anyone else really missing from Shadow War?

YOU HAVE TEN SECONDS

TO POST AN IMAGE OF YOUR FAVORITE IMPERIUM OF MAN ARMY

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>>52510440

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>work on CSM
>have a bunch of dudes because got lucky with cheap HH sets
>realize I'm going to need to drop a ton of money on rhinos
>decide to focus on other pile of shit
>sizable amount of dark eldar
>have all the transports and shit I need
>go to LGS and pic related
>was planning on getting some for chaos spawn
>they're 20% off
>fuck
>buy them
>now I want to work on CSM again

What the fuck is wrong with me?

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Havent checked in for a while. The new chaos stuff arrived, right? Any good? It was tzeentch focused, right?

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>>52510438
Apparently there aren't really rules for having Space marines. Scouts are the marine force, and full-fledged marines are the one-mission specialists for them.

Which is weird, because Chaos has marines out the ass alongside their cultists.

>>52510438
Inquisitorial squads?

And I don't know about plastic sisters, there has been rumors about them since The Witch Hunters codex. I'm starting to lose hope.

Wanna start 40k, like the looks of necron, grey knights and deathwatch. Which should I pick? I'm new so something more forgiving but not absolutely shit in the meta would be cool.

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>>52510440

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>>52510453
I know the same feeling man. Every time I draw a line and tell myself I'll take a break on my chaos army and do something else, I keep finding more and more things to work on.

Currently I'm fighting the urge to just add an entire secondary Khorne force.

>>52510472
grey knights are pretty bad
deathwatch is mediocre
necrons are high mid tier/low high tier
No one has a problem with crons and they're competitive at every level, a good starting choice

>>52510488

The worst part is that my friend gave me a bunch of CSM bits that he found, and there's an old raptor backpack in there, which means I can make my raptor lord now. It's like... Fucking christ. I guess I'm doing CSM now again?

>>52510472
Deathwatch works better as an allied army, sort of elite, specialized marines to pair up with a full marine army or guard regiment.

Grey Knights are similar, being elite marines, though are kind of overpriced and less focused on what they want to do.

Necrons are quite solid and easy to play, paint, and learn.

>>52510502
Yeah. My friend is offering me a bunch of spare bits and models he isn't planning on using at a sweet deal, but I really feel like I need to focus on something other than Chaos for a while.

>>52510488
>>52510504
Cool. Watched a batrep or two, necron seems to be heavily invested into shooting. After the start collecting set (12 warriors, 1 overlord, 1 triarch stalker, 1 scarab swarm), what should I be looking at getting? Thinking of a few simple games first to get a feel of w40k rules.

>>52510493

>No one has a problem with crons

>So you're playing Necrons
yeah
>Well I hope you're not planning to use
>Decurion
>Wraiths
>Canoptek Harvest
>Destroyer Cult
>Teleporting circus party
>Forge World Pylons
right... how many points of free Transports do you have?
>About 400
right

>>52510571
The Ark Phalanx box might be a decent addition, another box of warriors and a transport for them as well. I would suggest sticking with that until you get a better feel for how they play and how the game works, then look over your options.

I'd recommend more, but I only know this second hand from my friend's crons.

>>52510556

I'm actually hoping to sell all my chaos daemons because I just don't like them anymore, which I can then turn into more stuff that I need I suppose.

My main army is imperium, so I'm not exactly chaosed out. I just need to focus on something.

>>52510625
That's understandable. For me, I love having a lot of different armies. I've got at least 1000 points wrapped up in 4 or 5 by now. But right now I'm just stuck on Chaos marines. I wouldn't be surprised if I've got 3000 points with all the crap I've just accumulated.

>>52510618
Gotcha. Thanks!

>>52510575
>>About 400

Garbage BC build.

>>52510641

My main army is Sisters, so getting shit for that is a pain, though I'm sitting on a out 2000pts because I've been playing them for like 10 years now. Then, I have CSM, Tzeentch daemons with some 'letters, and a pile of dark eldar that I could probably make into a 1500 if I stretch it a little. The daemons I can do about 2000 points, too. Even if I just dump them for like 200-300, I'd be happy.

>>52510575
How many points does Decurion RP save you in a game? Your entire army divided by 50%.

How many points do all those Wraiths save you by simple virtue of being extremely undercosted, even BEFORE their toughness boost and points drop from their newest codex? More than a couple free Rhinos will provide.

>>52510662
Yeah. I've got a BaC box that I have sitting around to make into a loyalist force so I can actually ally with something there, and it's taking a lot of willpower to resist just making another 30 so Chaos marines.

>>52510669
It's plus 1 RP, so a 16% increase. Marines really shouldn't be throwing shade at others.

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>>52510189
Isha, if only to piss off Aeldari.

>>52510669
>Your entire army divided by 50%.

Getting 4+ feel no pain when you already had 5+ feel no pain army-wide is not a 50% boost in survivability. That sort of boost is what you guys can get just by calling your guys Iron Hands.

There is no conceivable way a squad of wraiths is undercosted by several hundred points. They're a great assault unit, fast, durable, etc. but if a Necron player invests in all of those while you park Obsec Razorbacks on every objective, you'll pull ahead in the end.

>>52510681

Thankfully, I don't have that problem because I autistically refuse to play loyalist space marines.

>>52510438
An Ecclesiarchy kill team, just a bunch of crazy dudes with chainsaws and harsh language ready to die for their Emperor.

And Inquisitorial henchmen, small team of well trained operatives with diverse skills... it kinda feels like a no brainer, this kinda shit is their bread and butter.

I have no idea how to expand my list. I have a bunch of other models, but not really a feeling on how I could make the list actually work

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All right, my fucking drought is broken and I finally got to take this Iron Warriors list for a spin.

>Versus Emperor's Children
-Threadbare Lord+CC Chosen in Rhino
-5x Noise Marines
-Cultist Blob
-Dinobot with Autocannons
-Hellturkey with baleflamer

>Rolled Emperor's Will which we both agreed was fine for a stupidly simple re-introductory game
>I managed to Seize Initiative
>Rapier, Dread and Warpsmith deployed opposite the Dinobot and cultists on my left
>Autocannon Squad camped objective in middle, opposite his Noise Marines, also camping his Objective
>Havocs, Plasma squad and Predator squared off to blitzkrieg the right flank, facing his Chosen
>I rolled on the IW traits and reinforced the Autocannon squad's cover to 3+

>Rapier evaporated 4 cultists and penned Dinobot, saved by 5++, that was about as good as it got as those two spent the rest of the game impotently flailing at each other due to poor dice rolls
>Warpsmith and Dread ran straight at the Cultists ready to unleash a shitload of templates on the Cultists before turning their anti-tank toys on the Dinobot. But, they rolled a 1 for Run distance, leaving them juuust out of template range next turn. Hellturkey arrived Turn 2 and took out the dread with a single Vector Strike, then erased half the Autocannon squad with its Baleflamer. Their fancy 3+ cover was completely useless since they didn't take fire from anything but the Turkey the entire game.
>Despite this, Autocannon marine capped three cultists and a Noise Marine before running out of targets and spending the last turns trying to hit the Turkey
>Warpsmith managed to Curse the Forgefiend (fucker rolled 3 Gets Hot but saved them all) before getting charged by the Cultists, and spent most of the game them chopping up (slaying their champion and rolling +1 Initiative... when he has a Power Axe, DERP) but was readying a meltagun shot into the Immobilized Dinobot's side for Turn 5 when my opponent conceded.

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>>52510794
>make an angry marine paint scheme
>absolutely crushing in some random game
>one person on the enemy team spergs out over "that fucking mcdonalds marine"

Game was a lot of fun if fairly simple. Shame its sequel is coming NEVER

>>52510703
The guy with "400 points of free transports" doesn't have any RP at all.

>>52510851
And Necrons don't have Chapter tactics or ATSKNF. It's almost like a lot of armies have army wide special rules or something.

>>52510686

The only good BC builds use pods and rhinos, so that's 35 x 6, which is only 11% of 1850. RBs are complete shit. You have to pay for turret upgrades, they are only a TLHB stock, and have no hatch to fire grav out of. HS slots should be Centurions and FA slots should be bikes, so spamming even more transports is irrelevant. Transports also don't kill anything, and Rhinos have never been considered good other than due to their low cost, so lowering an already low cost to 0 is barely worth crying about.

Take away all the other OP shit marines have and leave them Battle Company and the army is complete trash. Go ahead and fucking try it if you don't believe me. Play a Battle Company with no cheesy units or grav and see how amazing those free transports are compared to innate xenos firepower such as Necron gauss, Tau everything, and Eldar everything.

>>52510703
Literally no competitive vanilla lists use RBs.

>>52510870
>Chapter tactics
>ATSKNF
>shit Daemons Eldar and Tau don't have yet are still doing better than marines

It's almost like xenos have better army wide special rules like REANIMATION PROTOCOL yet complain about stupid shit like chapter tactics. I bet all those Black Templar whiners sure should just stfu since they have such nice chapter tactics!

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>>52510440
i can explain! r-really

>>52510887
>Jumping through this many hoops to bitch about an army weaker than yours

Stay salty, ultrafag

>should get Steel Legion in the mail this week
>can barely contain excitement

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>>52510463
It was mostly mediocre with some cheese.

>>52510877
Oh shit what are you doing?
They are objective secured models that block LOS and can't be damaged by small arms fire.
You use them to go grab objectives so your dudes can focus on killing rather than worrying about spending 2 turns capping an objective.

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>>52510938
>What is necron gauss

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>watch guy take lions blade double demi with all dem free transports at 1500pts
>plays against nids
>complains that it limits his build
>gets shit pushed in by nids
>says he's not taking it again
>mfw

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>>52510189
Jain Zar, but only if i 4 meter tall blonde man on life support because i don't want to get my soul stolen by her screams its already been stolen.

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>>52510938
>can't be hurt by small arms fire
>against necrons

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>>52510836
Cont'd
>Meanwhile, my Panzer IV chassis tanks took their heritage to heart and fucking blitzkrieg'd the right flank, erasing the Rhino, Chosen and Lord with sustained plasma fire, netting me First Blood and Slay the Warlord, before killing all but one of his Noise Marines and getting within capture distance of his Objective as well as having units with 3" of his board edge.
>He conceded when it became clear next turn I'd wipe out the last Noise Marine giving me uncontested control of his Objective, and the Warpsmith would likely destroy the Dinobot, leaving him with only the Turkey.

Things I learned:
-Holy shit Helldrakes are insane. Flyers in general are insane but a Flyer with a 5++ and It Will Not Die is going to be fucking hard to put down, even with dedicated AAA.
-My list is minimally viable, the units work well with each other and anything lacking serious anti-tank is going to struggle against that much armour, even if it's mostly only AV11
-What's not to like about a 72" range Vindicator? The Dice Gods and their sense of humour.
-Everyone liked the PzIV's, the German theme overall and my conversions, which was awesome.

What are some decent ways to combine necrons and tau into an army?

>>52510983
Footslogging tough necron units absorbing damage with either deep striking plas/melta crisis suits or optimised stealth cadre shenanigans.
Alternatively take a y'vahra or Barracuda AX-5-2 (better than a croissant) or an armoured interdiction cadre
If you want to be a faggot take a riptide wing and be that guy, but no one will play you

>>52510981
Shit, also forgot:
>Icon of Excess doesn't fuck around, and makes Noise Marines a huge pain in the ass.
>6+ FNP isn't dogshit if it's army-wide. Both my opponent and myself made enough FNP saves to make an appreciable difference to the battle.
>Iron Warriors Legion rules are fun enough. Havocs with Plasma Guns and Tank Hunters bundled up in a Rhino was easily my MVP unit.

>>52511033
I'm building my first army, it'll be unbound and just dudes that I think are cool.
So far I have 1 Riptide.
I think I'll get a commander with marker drones and drone controller to support the rip.
Obviously I need to keep in mind synergy and complementary units and can't just hodge podge randomness

Necrons I think are cool too but I'm not deadset on them. I'll probably need something to push forward and engage while the rip snipes

>>52511088
no one plays unbound, you'll barely find games and formations can be better than unbound
By units you think are cool, are you looking only at tau or at any units at all, since farsight enclaves gives you crisis suits are troops choices, eliminating the boring infantry that plagues normal tau.
Also never bring a riptide below 1250 points, unless playing against daemons/eldar/grav spam

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Hey guys fresh BL stuff to complain about.

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So, I think I had one of the most one sided games I have ever played today. It was my Sisters vs a Dangle cad, and for shits and giggles I took a Vestigial Task Force for the first time (spoilers: it was worthless) with pic related. We did Maelstrom of war and rolled escalation. The final score was 12-3.

I had an early lead and was sitting on 6 points to his 2, but he had a potential swing in his favor. If he cast an interromancy power and killed my warlord in a challenge, he could potentially take the lead (d3 for challenge, 1 for WL, 1 for power). He dumps all 6 of his dice into making my Dominions snap shoot and only managed one success, which I manage to negate with adamantium will.

Next, his flier finally arrived and unloads into my command squad, which takes out 3 sisters, then his command squad kills one more and puts a wound on the canoness. He assaults, challenges, and his goons kill my last dude. In the challenge, we're both hitting on 4s and wounding on 2s with a 4++ save, but he has 4+1 attacks to my 3. We each wound once and he fails to kill me.

My turn. I roll my objectives and get 15 and 16. Then first is activate AoF for 1pt, 3 for d3 pts, or 5 for 3+d3 pts. I only had 4 AoF left, so do I could get a d3 out of it. The second, is if a faithful character dies, I get a point, but if it's a character with Martyrdom, I get a d3. Low and behold, I activate my 3 faith powers, failing my canoness on an 11 of all things, and then proceed to put another wound into his character and take one in return. I roll a 4 and 5 for my 2d3 and snag 5 for my canoness dieing, but he only gets 1 for my warlord because he didn't get the kill on his turn.

The game ends, I get line breaker because Dominions, and the final score is 12-3.

Holy fuck.

>>52511107
Well that sucks
I was hoping to avoid the formation annoyance for when I got the hang of things and a bigger collection.
I like a few different factions, like grey knights too, but they are very bad supposedly

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Post yfw theyve managed to make ork shooting even worse

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>>52510440

Alright, i know almost nothing about warhammer, and what little i did know i forgot
Which faction is the best and why?

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>>52511251
Jesus shootings gonna be rough

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>>52511251
No, I'll post mfw marines and regular humans both have M4" while listening to the lamentation of marinefags.

>>52511303
>"How can we nerf an underperforming unit more?"

t. chaosfag

>>52511251
>>52511300
If it makes you feel any better a marine would be shooting at ork BS.

>>52511251
>Orks HAVE to roll a 6
>Orks HAVE to have a weapon malfunction in order to hit

what the fuc

>>52511300
Most guns have bonuses for shooting at close range. But yes, Burnas are an Orks best friend.

>>52511251
How will artillery be affected?

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Looking for opinions on my comp list 1850p.
Vindicators points are 5 more over what the codex says, so the list is in the correct limit.

>>52511290
orks

because they always win.

>>52511377
That's the SoA rules, not 8th. We don't know if they'll use the exact same system.

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>>52511290
Imperial Guard
See who can kill your dudes the fastest, your opponent or yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqBm-PJylWQ&list=PLw2peyDgpaA8MyzNqm1hLbM94MThMva0d&index=2

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>>52510453
I like using Plague Drones for Spawn.

What would be good for Tzeentch daemonkin spawn? I'd think maybe Ogroid Thaumaturges, being Tzeentchian and having the same base size.

>>52510447
>fellow tread head
MY NIGGA

>>52511404
I know. It was more of a rhetorical question.

Because if they don't find a way to nerf artillery the same way, oh buy, 30k is gonna be fun. No point in trying to dakka the enemy when you can't hit shit, just roll a few rapier batteries and medusas and nuke the board.

>>52511251
>>52511300
>doesn't mention that Shootas get +2 To Hit at short range and a sustained fire dice

>>52510189
I have a problem. I want to build a ork army. But...

I kinda want to do a speed freaks army. Trukks, bikes, deffkoptas. But that's insanely expensive and the army I would like to build would cost at least 450€.

Or I could just buy a bunch of Start Collecting! boxes and some trukks and call it a day. I would save like 200€ but do I really want to?

Why is life so hard?

>>52511353
They have to magdump to hit anything

>>52511463
>deffkoptas
AoBR

>bikes
converted deffkoptaz

>trukkz
fucking everything, hell i used plastic toys even, only orkified them enough and made sure they fit the scale

Also this is beside the point, but mek gun+trukk kitbash means even more mek gunz, and you'll want these, they are godly

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/tg/, do you think you would enjoy playing against this? It's made with fun for my opponent in mind, but I want a decent chance of winning as well.

>>52511463
>I want to build a ork army.
Take it slow, these things should be a labor of love. ESPECIALLY with a new edition looming.

also just use the trukk boy box, man

Second try:

I have some Horus Heresy artbooks with Sisters of Silence wearing silvered armour. Does anyone have informations about that? Because I would like to use silver amour on my sisters but I want them lore-conform. Thank you very much :)

>>52511429
That one on the right is too "ara, ara~" for my liking

>>52511547
That's what makes it an qt

>>52511561
Assuming your the owner, that's a really great idea
Might have to steal it if i need to expand a DG list

>>52511578
Not the owner, but I do think that it is kinda cute.
I also enjoy the idea of different forms of spawn for different gods instead of simply having all of them like they are now.

>>52511429
I like those, actually.

However, I'm Night Lords and didn't want to use daemon-y looking spawn, and the crypt ghasts look fitting.

>>52510949
guess what, marines aren't good when you take away grav and the power-formations skyhammer and libby conclave.

>>52511184
Just buy a box of fire warriors in addition to the commander and run it as a combined arms detachment. But if you're just playing against friends you shouldn't have an issue with what kind of list you run

>>52511303
I enjoy ripping people like you apart with my grav/librarian/doubledemi army. Your tears are delicious.

>>52511599
The dude had plenty of grav and dropped one of his 2 flyrants with one round of shooting from a dev squad with 2 grav cannons.

>>52511624
>having his grav on a dev squad
I can see why he lost.

>>52511623
>implying I don't play marines

I'm just not a cocksucking fanboy who can't deal with the fact that on the table a Marine moves at the same speed as a human.

>>52511669
0/10

Imperial Guard is shit and boring

>>52511681
>thinks I'm baiting
>just the other day someone got their panties in a massive twist with a fist full of sand in their vaginas over Marines and humans both having M4", bitching about how it's unfluffy and ruins everything

Not to forget all the old bitchings about people wanting Marines to be S5 T5 with 2 or more wounds to be more fluffy. And how it's unrealistic for a mere human to have more wounds or S4/T4 like the Emperor's Angels of Death.

>>52511711
Ah I remember you, you're the shitposter from yesterday.

I'll rate that as well: 0/10

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>buy old school plastic rhinos on ebay
>check for chaos upgrade sprues
>$23 and $7 shipping
>mfw

I thought ebay was supposed to be cheap.

>>52511721
Did I say I took part in that bitchfest over M4" marines? No. Enjoy your damage control, marineboy, and enjoy your M4" marines.

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>>52511765
>uses exactly the same sentence he used yesterday
>get's called out on being a shitposter
>blames marine players even though he claimed he plays them himself
top kek

>>52510466
Makes sense though - Chaos Marines in the fluff are sometimes seen fucking around at that lower level, whereas Scouts exist for a reason.

>>52511765
Oh, I almost forgot:
1/10, you're getting there

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>>52510738
Both of these would be dope, desu

>>52511793
>uses exactly the same sentence he used yesterday

And what sentence is that?

>get's called out on being a shitposter

Actually, you called me out on shitposting I didn't do, so A for effort.

>blames marine players even though he claimed he plays them himself

Again, reading comprehension.

Keep going, I'm sure you'll rectify this damage sooner or later.

I want to run the following list:

Commander with coldstar suit

2 Battlesuit units with double burst cannon

6 riptides with burst cannon.

Would you play me or am I an unfun cancer retard

I just want to be gundam wing :(

>>52511887
you're cancer for wanting gundam wing

>>52511706
They are a lot more fun when they have blobs and things like Bullgryn and hqs like Yarrick or Straken.

>>52510438
Not even a rumour at this point. We had some Games Workshop employee confirm with an email from management they will be out by october/november. Anyone have the screenshot? My LGS also confirmed this with me.

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>>52510438
>Anyone else really missing from Shadow War?
the ordo xenos, the ecclesiarchy, arguably the assassinorum (but good luck making that work beyond a solitaire-style one-off specialist)

Give how popular the kit is, I hope they broaden the rules support.

>>52510463
Whats the name of this anime again?

>>52511958
full metal jacket

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>>52511251
Aaaaand this is exactly why cover being a To Hit modifier is a stupid idea.

>>52511990
Technically they've gotten their rules wrong.

A shoota has a +1 modifier within 12". It would cancel out the cover modifier, meaning the ork needs 5's to hit someone at that range/in partial cover.

Also, simply running makes you harder to target. An ork running into partial cover is at -2 to hit, and an ork is considerably more dangerous in melee than most other troops in this game.

>>52511884
0/10
that damage control thing is worn out, try something creative. for example you could accuse me of being from 8 to shitpost here

>>52510794
This is the first time I've ever liked the Mentor's color scheme.

>>52511898

I just really like the model :( most enjoyment i've had from the hobby in a long time when I built and painted mine.

Game wise would people accept to play me only running burst cannons? I feel it's pretty gimped and not op cheese

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>>52511970

>>52512027
>Stop using emojis, you're not twelve
>Stop apologizing to a stranger on the internet
>Burst cannons are fine

>>52512072

ty senpai

:+)

>>52511251
AGAIN

you're looking at the old Necromunda rules, which are based on and largely compatible with the RT/2E 40k rules, having things like long/short range (of which the modern game only retains vestigial traces such as Melta and Rapid Fire, because it's a fucking worthless system that bogs down games), To Hit Modifiers, To Wound Modifiers and Save Modifiers (which implies that some units save on more than one D6 to represent ultra-tough units), Move as a profile entry and so on and so forth

the reason that all of those things died out in 40k is that they're unnecessarily slow and overcomplicated, even in a skirmish game as 40k was when it started out

this is not a preview of 8E, which will be more or less 7E, which is more or less 5E, which is the fifth refinement of the previous four editions

nor are you likely to see it go the other way and become more AoS like because AoS replaces a cumbersome system of innately bloated rank-and-file armies with a more friendly skirmish system involving big beautiful models, with no need to paint 400 skaven just to qualify for a fucking bell on a cart and fight a 1000 point game against fourteen guys on horseback, a steam tank and some cannons

and just to be ultra fucking clear

even in 2E if you wanted a shooty Ork army you went gretchin and just overwhelmed your enemy with weight of fire, even at long range

>>52510981
Fuuuuck I wanna play you so bad becaus my guard army is all Sherman themed!

>>52511303
Scouts are M 5.

Shadow War rules up yet?

>>52511887
Sure.
>Fateweaver
>3 Lords of Change rolling 2 greater ML3, one with Paradox, one with Impossible Robe, 1 with Exalted
>3 Heralds at ML3
>2 Brimstone Squads
>Magnus

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All this marines and Necrons players bitching about their broken armies.

And I'm here with my six exorcist with prescience not giving a shit.

Till they gaus/grav them to death and proceed to bitch and moan the entire game about Celestine.

>>52511728
I go to ebay whenever I need 2nd edition tyranid warriors. They're usually cheaper than current ones and the sculpts are great.

>>52512236

is 6 riptides with burst cannons really that bad?

No markerlight support no ion cannons

>>52511545
Their codex shows y'at sisters can have different color armor And shit. You're fine

>>52512236
>2017
>Using model sold to be center pieces

Is like you want to get raped by GW

I just want to brutally rape the Sisters of Silence and turn them into the Sisters of Ecstasy.

>>52512366
>Having a problem with adding a focal point to your army
I bet you are boring

>>52512367
Good luck trying to get past their blank powers.

>>52510413
>Hive Tyrant
>MILF
Pick one. Hive tyrants are male. A female hive tyrant is a dominatrix.

>>52512394
>Dominatrix
WHAT

>>52512384
If you want focal points play warmachine. They love that shit so much, that if it dies the game ends!

>>52512405
You can't google search Tyranids Dominatrix?

>>52512421
all I get is porn

>>52512407
man, why did warmashit fail so much
they should just team up with blizzard and sell warcraft mary sue heroes with their armies for maximum cash

>>52512439
>all I get is porn
toss a "lexicanum" on the end of your search, mate

>>52512439
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Tyranid+dominatrix

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>>52512439
Here. The little thing on the back is a vestigial Tyranid Warrior which operates the giant cannon.

>man, why did warmashit fail so much

It kind of didn't. It's a great game and makes a nice change from 40k when I want something a bit smaller-scale and more complex.

>>52512407
>This entire post
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
man you are salty. I bet you wouldent even run a termintors unit for fear of having a focal point

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>>52512439
Anon you are retarded and should neck yourself.

>>52512478
But anon love, terminators are shit. Some would say even ungly models.

If you want to shill for GW so much get a job there.

>>52512490
>terminators are shit
terminators are fucking cool, though

>>52512394
ML3 gargantuan creature with 24" synapse and a bio-cannon when?

>>52512236
I have a feeling I know who you are

>>52511953
Anon they're not going to expand, they're not even going to re-release the kit
It's just an event

>>52512467
Had you seen current gaymachine? The games are as big as 1500 points 40k games.
They even have knight size models.


I started playing because it was a smaller game, but now the fucking thing is just a shittier version of 40k. You know how bad that thing works at the retarded point size games it plays now?

>>52512501
>Gargantuan Creature that is actually a creature which is gargantuan
>in an army known in canon for frequently using such creatures
Impossible, only superheavy walking vehicles can be Gargantuan Creatures.

>>52512467
>great game
>it now has become the same shit just like 40k
>but with zero "your dudes" and playing as forced mary sues

>>52512530
They won't even fix the errors in the digital versions of the rules.

>>52512557
they really won't, even the GW employee was struggling to defend some choices, just saying it happened for a reason
It should be fun though

>>52512551
you forgot
>every game is hunt the VIP always, and this is baked into the core rules

>>52512571
>what do you mean tyranid warriors cant but their normal basic weapon that they come equipped with in 40k and has rules in their kill team list? Of course that's intended!

>>52510887
I don't bitch about other armies being broken. I bitch about other armies getting new stuff when already being on top of the heap. (See Grav-guns, guilliman, angels of Death, while what have Dark Eldar got? Haemey covens, and CW Eldar players taking archons for cheap deepstrike)

>>52512677
Hello, I'm a tyranid player and your whining is fucking pathetic. DE can take CW eldar as battle brothers allies and have access to all the same Ynnari crap CW eldar do. Please quit whining like a spoiled child.

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>>52512698

and you have access to absolutely shitloads of high quantity twin linked strength six shooting and haywire template weapons on a T6 flying monstrous creature which is also a ML2 psyker that can give itself feel no pain or launch S10 AP 2 lance weapons across the battlefield, as well as the smallest point investment option in the game and a Force org chart which gives you an extra HQ slot for the low price of an extra mandatory troop slot.

you can also ally in genestealer cults which are one of the strongest armies in the game for guaranteed turn one assaults from inexpensive but incredibly killy acolyte hybrids or the pratriachstar, and you can make enemy models shoot at each other

its almost as if its ok to be pissy when an army has a build which is OP but plays completely counter to how your army is supposed to play?

>>52512698
At least you have plastic kits. For almost everything.

>>52512698
>8E DE codex
>must-have formation that costs points and forces you to use Eldar allies to get cool rules

>>52512798
>there is a single good unit in your codex and you get a unit that means you badically don't have to take troops, since why would you want to take any of those unusable troop choices!
>this means your army is good!

>>52512673
I'm pretty sure not being able to buy weapons because they don't have listed costs isn't a unique problem for warriors, but that's probably the most obvious.

>>52512798
It's like saying SoB don't need an update because Celestine exist and Melta Dominions are not absolutely trash

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>>52512861

>you can ally in an army that has a better alternative for literally every unit in your codex whenever you want, or use a army list which gives you a free action whenever something dies that doesn't effect vehicles in your mechanised army list, that means your army is good!

pro tip m8, every time you replace a deldar unit with an eldar unit you need to explain to yourself why your not just using eldar.

and you've got the exact same problem with being able to ally to an army which is straight up superior to your own, or did you already forget about the genestealer cults?

Our wishlist for the Age of Emprah 8th Edition:

>no rule bloat
>setting isn't reset
>compendium books for all the 7 alliances (Imperium of Man, Aeldari, Tau, Orks, Tyranids, Necrons, Chaos) (they don't replace codices
>war formations now cost points
>gretchins get their own codex

>>52512897
Just like saying "CSM don't need a new codex because Traitor Legions is out and they can ally to demons"

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>>52512907

>>52512920
Marines not having codex:
Space Marines
Space Wolfs
Blood Angels
Dark Angels
Space Sharks
Something FW
Something FW 2
Grey Knights
Death Watch.

A single codex for all that shit is enough, maybe two for space marine different paint job!

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>>52512897

its like someone saying that guard players should stop complaining when you can ally in a space marine grav-star and make your army better.

if your answer to playing an army is to ally in a better army then your army is broken, no matter what that nid player thinks.

ANYONE can ally in a better army, the point is that you shouldn't fucking have to, and that your armies should be able to stand on their own.

AND I NEVER SAID THAT TYRANIDS WERE A GOOD ARMY. they are mono-build to the extreme, but when some little bitch complains about a deldar player bitching about being a shit army then that bitch is nothing more or less than a little bitch.

ironic, considering most nid players are actually girls.

>>52512927
Chaos shit at least has plastic kits for almost everything.

We should revert to the armies in the 3rd edition rulebook.

Keep Mechanicus because those are fun, but removed their retarded formation

>>52512920
Tougher vehicles, and no more squadrons except in special circumstances.

MC's can no longer take additional MC's, in keeping with the no squadrons idea. Tyranids are the exception for some cases like warriors

>>52512965
Necron and Tau fags gonna be mad.

>>52512981
were necrons that shit in 3rd? Tau weren't present even, but why necron-fags?

>>52512981
And nothing of value was lost.

Maybe Necrons because the scarabs are kind of adorable.

>>52511887
As long as its not Riptide Wing its ok.

Just found out that GW doesn't offer parts replacement anymore, rip.

>>52512992
Necrons and tau did not exist at all in the 3rd edition rulebook.

>>52512992
Necrons, Tau, GK, and Mechanicus where not a thing in the 3rd edition rulebook.

Assassins and Inquisition where their own entry while marines were together under marines with a footnote for special snowflakes.

>>52513014
Necrons where an unknown race hinted to in the 3rd edition core book.

>>52513014
>>52513022
oh okay, i thought that 'crons were a thing, cause they had a codex later in 3rd ed

>>52512978
Warriors are not monstrous creatures and haven't been since 2nd edition (and it didn't do anything then).

>>52512920

>rend rules make terminators usable

>Deldar get plastic models

>aspect warriors get plastic models

>tyranids and orks get better

>orks finally get replacements to their decades old kits

>chaos space marines get better plastic and rules

>wraith units and bikestars get nerfed, but not obliterated so that people can still play themed lists.

>every other codex is generally brought to the eldars level of internal codex balance, while the eldar themselves finally get some external codex balance.

the eldar codex is a work of art, but the game wasn't ready for it

>>52513024
Yes, there is a single line drawing of a group of aliens, one of which is what would turn out to be a Necron warrior.

However the 3rd edition rulebook contained army lists for all the armies in 3rd edition, Necrons were not one of them.

>>52513029
There is a drawing for Kroot and Necron Warrior in the random aliens.

>>52513038
Wishful thinking.

I prefer 6th eldar codex tho, but i understand that from overall point 7th is better.

>>52513038
Stop calling save modifiers rend, your AoS is showing.

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>>52510440

>>52513075
BT codex...

The only marine army that deserved their own codex. Because they are the only fucks that still do Marine work instead of dicking around

But never mind GW made them into Psyker and xeno lover cucks

>>52511116
This is racist.

>>52512698
>DE can take CW eldar as allies
And you can take genestealer cults as allies?
And then they can take IG formations as allies?
Hell, you can take Ynnari as allies as long as you stay 12" away, why not just replace your whole army with scat bikes and deepstriking D flamers?

So what's the problem with Tyranids if you dont mind allying in a better army?

>>52512407
>Hurr Durr Magnus bad
Just because one game uses it, doesn't make it bad you mouth breathing retard. A beam D weapon is a beam D weapon. Plus, casting on 2's is fucking amazing.

>>52512503
>I have a feeling I know who you are
Is the person in question a 20 something that usually wears flannels?

>>52511116
Pretty sure this is fake.

>>52512335
>Is six of the most point efficient, most durable MC really that bad?
What do you think?

>>52513138
Tyranids absolutely cannot take GSC as battle brothers allies and gain the same benefits that eldar and dark eldar can from allying.

Dark eldar can take any CW or Ynnari things, gain all of the benefit of it without penalty.

Tyranids cannot ally with *anything* and gain all of the benefit and can only ally with GSC without penalty.

Call back when I can infiltrate a carnifex.

>>52513196
Guilliman is worse.

>>52511442
>Tzeentch daemonkin

Is this a thing now

>>52512534
Play Infinity, until they gonna field giant shit Wraithtides.

>>52513210
Eh, not really. Can he deep strike, or do I have to let him trundle towards me?

>>52513209
Strategic Warlord Trait 3: Master of Ambush

>>52510877

Oh my god you're so wrong it hurts. Except that razorbacks are bad.

>>52513227
Infinity. I have a hard time telling what factions is what.

They look so generic. They don't even pass the normie experiment.

>>52513260
I probably should have been more specific.

>>52510466
>>52511803

I find it a pretty cool way of distinguishing CSM vs SM vs GKs.

>>52513274
To each their own.

>>52513270
Immolators cost 60 points with TL-HB/HF/MM.

Those RB are free. I don't see how free transport is a bad thing.

>>52513274
I just found myself overwhelmed by how ugly and oversized the guns are.

>get mad at 40k
>try to play warmahorde
>read the lore
>it's shit
>forced to play as hero characters
>drop and go back to 40k

>>52513240
>he wants even more
S10 AP2 attacks in a model that won't fucking die and has every single doctrine.

Marinefags are incapable of self-awareness.

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>>52513323
U dont say.

I have some old miniatures to sell, on EU ebay. I'd like to know if anyone has an idea of how much the following could be worth, in particular:
Azazel, daemon prince of Slaanesh
Metal tzeentch blue/pink horrors
Metal daemonettes
Lord of slaanesh on steed of slaanesh
Lord of slaanesh on foot

>>52512534
>>52512551
Fucking this. I was interested way back when it was like 3 jacks and a caster with one or two random rabble squads, now it's all infantry meta and Warjacks play second fiddle in their own game.

>>52513344
The terrorist elves is like the only good thing.

Maybe the Cygnar saying to the trolls here have your lands. But don't mind the demonic undead monsters coming your way

>>52513209
So you are saying I should ditch my favorite faction (haemy covens) and change my whole army over to Ynnari bike spam, with Archons and Wraithguard?

>>52513376
Mercs are cool too. Especially McBain. Too bad the meta shifted away from jack (Gunbunnies tho)

>>52513344
>implying 40k isn't literally hero showdown at this point

>>52513390
Yep, he is.

>>52513405
LOL

>>52513405
At least you don't lose the game when your super special snowflake dies.

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How would you equip a command squad / vanguard veteran squad to go with a cc captain on a drop pod?

How would you equip that captain?

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>>52513360
>Marinefags are incapable of self-awareness.
We have players in this thread complaining that free transports/heavy weapon platforms isn't enough.
Free
No cost

>>52513373

20€ for each is an attractive price

35 for both lords

>>52513401
I really dislike that 40k is the best thing in the market, just because the competion is just shit.

40k is hard shit and easy to clean from the carpet. While competion is liquid shit that is nightmare to clean.

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>>52510440

>>52513460
>Skitarii

what the fuck was GW thinking on splitting ad mech into two codices

>>52513441
Thanks for the tip. You mean 20 per model? Or per 10 models?
What about Azazel? IIRC it was a limited edition miniature

>>52513460
Isn't AdMech technically their own Empire that happens to trade and be fuck buddies with the Imperium?

Like two individuals that hate each other but live and have sex with each other, because they know no one else would ever love them.

>>52513390
I didn't know anyone actually played cenobites: the army

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>>52510440

>>52513476
"YouTube money" the codex, the movie, the show, the book

>>52513476
$$$$

>>52510851
What is an Iron Hands Battle Company?

>the vehicles can also heal on a 5+

>>52513490

20 for each model is a good price (sure to sell)

15 for the lord on foot but you can bundle it with the mounted one for 35 which is also attractive and will probably sell better

Azazel can maybe go for 25-30 but in the end it's still ugly as shit and an old metal model. If in doubt always search for average prices on ebay.

Im giving you these prices assuming they're opened and stripped of paint / unpainted.

If they're new in box add 10-15 € to each model's price

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>>52513503

>>52510973
>can't be hurt by small arms fire
>against Tau

>>52512920
>Cut the fucking bloat. How many rules do we need affecting running?

>Scenery affects To Hit rolls

>Units can choose to exit wrecks in their own turn

>Make Terminators Great Again

>New Guardsmen models, preferably Steel Legion.

>Demiurg gets a mini-codex, are space Dwarfs, and they give Tau super-advanced Dwarven alien warp travel that justifies them being involved with things

>>52513494
I do. I run Corpsethief Claw, Grotesquirie, Dark Artisan then some blaster boats with an archon and normal kabalites. If I want to play Ynnari, i have to give up on 1/2 of my collection and 2/3 of my army, which is my point about DE getting shafted.
{spoiler] Also, is Captcha really slow for anyone else? [/spoiler]

>>52513524
Well that is good to hear. Some of them are new but unboxed, i'll try to add something for each, then.
Cheers, anon!

>>52513559
You can ally those formations on to a Ynnari army as far as I know.

>>52513572
No haemonculus covnes units are allowed to ally with Ynnari. They are excluded from the list of allied models

>>52513195
Pretty cool, the result is even better than the original

>>52513195
Simple but effective conversion.

How cheesy would it be if I had a full unit of renegade rapiers?

>>52513634
Depends on what else you are fielding, and what your opponent is fielding, and also what you load them with.
A fluffy list with some heavy bolter/AC rapiers is cool. An optimised list with some conversion beamers rapiers in it is cheesy.

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>>52513537

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>>52513634
I run three of them, but then I keep the rest of my army quite fluffy.

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Tell me about The Emperor. Why does he wear golden power armour?

>>52513704
Lack of humility.

>>52513697

Im gunna cummmm

Shiny colors and green bases are what got me into 40k

>>52513492
More like a married couple where the wife is still a fairly devout Catholic even though the husband says disparaging things about the church while simultaneously worshipping football players.

>>52513704
Because he can

Also he thinks he's better than anyone.

>>52513704
Because its the Emperor and he can wear whatever he want

>>52513723
Green bases are the purest form of bases.

>>52513730
And Sisters of Battle are abused housewife that got a pitty fuck from GW in the form of Celestine, Vyridian and Castellans.

>>52513215
Woops. Wasn't thinking.

Is Mega non-functional right now for anyone else?

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>>52510189
>Who would you fuck from 40/30kverse edition
Hip'n'Thighshee

>>52510189
The Emperor

>>52513902
HORRY FUCK

THESE THIGHS!
THEY ARE MADE FOR ME! THIS IS MY DESTINY!

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What's your opinion about this Craftsworld?

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Nth for purging filthy aeldari scum

>>52513854
>pitty fuck from GW in the form of Celestine, Vyridian and Castellans.
Of which, none even appeared in their book.

>>52513931

Color scheme looks like shit.

The grey/orange one and the Forge World teal/light blue are the best

>>52513933

>FUCKING HERETICS FUCK OFF REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>52513959
Hence the pitty fuck.

Hold on guys, let me see if I've got this right: The new shadow war armagedon has free rules for the factions but the core rules needed to actually play the game come in a once off that came with a bunch of models that most people wouldn't use and is now sold out. Have I got that right?

>>52512040

Who is this semen demon?

>>52513933
>that fucking helmet
>panties-on-head retarded

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>>52510189
The various mega pages don't seem to contain the main rulebook in epub ( http://www.warhammerdigital.com/warhammer-40000/rules-supplements/40k-rules-digital.html ). If anyone had it on hand I'd be extremely grateful!

>>52513421
apothecary, a power fist, maybe a couple of storm shields if you have the points? Three meltaguns too.

>>52514097

Have you been able to download things, anon? My downloads are stuck on "queued".

Is it worth it to give Renegade Enforcers Power Fists/Axes? I'm running them in big rabble blobs.

>>52510453
CHAOS WHISPERS TO ALL MEN

>>52514122
Works on my machine, sorry I can't help you anon.

Would anybody be willing to explain how the formations and stuff work for 40k? I've just assembled an army of Alpha Legion, with ten marines and a chaos rhino, five Blood Racens who I'm fluffing as alpha legion infiltrators, five Scythe's of the Emperor of the same, and an Ultramarines Rhino crudely painted over with Blood Ravens livery. I'm going to play them all as Alpha Legion. Is this a retarded idea? Am I allowed to do this?

>>52513902
THICC :O....

>>52514037
You appear to be correct. Hopefully GW will sell the rules seperately soon.

>>52514048
That artist can't draw eldar helmets for shit

He also can't comprehend superior space-elf reflexes that would put shuriken through her face as she crested the wall of corpses.

>>52514180
That picture is just using the new rules already, where the one that charges is the one with the highest initiative :^)

>>52514180
SoB have something the Eldar lack.
Human superior genes. The Eldar are fucked from the start.

>>52513437
The complaint is that it is a bandaid on the issue of marine foot dudes being increasingly shit and not worth fielding.
>>52513360
Yeah man, carnifexes are totally the most dangerous thing on the field because they are MCS THAT DO A LOT OF DAMAGE IN CC EVEN THO THEY NEED TO WALK THERE OR GET AN EXPENSIVE DROP POD!

>>52514210
>Celestine is cucked by alien
Tell that yourself bolter bitch.

Is there a seller in the US that sells laser cut terrain or anything?

I'm looking for something reasonably priced, but every shop seems to be based in the UK where they charge insane amounts for shipping.

>>52514173
You are allowed.

When my wife gets done painting my oodles of minis, I wanna make a black shield force that will hopefully work (shittily) as chaos or loyalists.

>>52514180
>superior space-elf reflexes
This ain't 2nd edition. If proper overwatch still existed, maybe, but that's been dead for longer than most players of the game have been alive.

WHY HAS NOBODY SCANNED SHADOW WAR RULES YET REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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Looking for some advice on this

The kataphrons are each joined by one dominus, one being joined by warlord Cawl to be repaired. The dominus both have wargear, one of which allows the unit they're in to get tank hunter, skyfire, or monster hunter each turn and the other allowing Kataphron units within 12" to instantly use any protocol after initially using one. Both kataphron units are joined by ML2 divination psykers.
Everything else in the list is pretty self explanatory, now that Cawl was released it's legal to get a CAD of rangers for some Obsec while having the boon of vanguard in a maniple. I had planned on including peltasts but I can't find room really. Also there are apparently nerfs coming through the pipeline for them which is understandable.

>>52514173
>Is this a retarded idea?
Sneaky renegade marines using hodgepodge gear and alpha legion rules to represent their sneakiness?

sounds fine, bro

>>52514273
Maybe because of ... poor light conditions ?

>>52514180
>>52514271
>kids don't recognize the Counter Attack USR in action
>>52514298
YEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!

>>52514237
Can we pretend the Gathering Storm didn't happen. That way every faction would still have thier dignity

>>52512467
You know, i never realized that the thing on its back looks an awful lot like that promethian space craft in Alien

>>52513902
If Aspects ever get plastics, I hope they'll have these proportions.

>>52514367
Almost as if GW copy everything sci fi related from 80's and 90's

I'm still waiting for them getting sue over Horatio

>>52513032
And they shouldn't be, they do need options to give them a 3+ save or +1 T though

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>>52514377
In the new world of Political Correctness? I'd be surprise if we get models thinner than picture related.

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>>52511728

I love the "$5 pricetag and $29.99 shipping" auctions

>>52514428
Good god thats hideous.

>>52514428
T H I C C

>>52514428

>GW politically correct
>every recent female model has had a combination of boobplate/high heels/barefeet

At the end of the day GW knows who their core audience is.

>>52514593
So everything women want?

>>52514278
Do I need a knight in this list?

>>52511887
You're going to need some Markerlights in there, Anon. Also, what point value? 6 riptides, along with the FnP and other upgrades you want to be buying will single-handedly film up most of an 1850.

What's the best way to run SoS. blade, bolters or flamers?

Also wtf is up with not being able to upgrade individual models in the unit with special weapons?

>>52514593
>high-heels
unacceptable unless you are a sorceress baiting for sex appeal

>>52514428
>Political Correctness
>post mini from a separate company with one of the least politically correct ranges around
You're a special kind of special, aren't you?

>>52514622
with the grav deathballs? I doubt it

>>52514691
I did get (you)s didn't I?

>>52514689
If I was an inquisitor wearing custom neuro-linked power armour, I'd commission them to put high heels on it.

maybe I have a cyber horse that uses power stirrups

>>52514655
I personally like swordsisters.
>S4 AP2 at I5 is pretty nice.
But with no dedicated assault transports you're left walking.

Boltersisters aren't terrible if you want the null aura. But bolters are underwhelming.

Flamersisters are the most expensive, but synergizes best with Rhinos imo, but I find 5+ flamers are usual overkill.

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>>52514716
Here's a list with a knight, better?
Worse?

>>52514655
Swords or flamers. Flamers are decent in a special weapon squad like that, and AP 2 at initiative 5 can do work

>>52514768
Depends on who you face, really. It does mean you have a durable problem solver who can cover ground quickly.

But I like the idea of having some redundancy with the two kataphron units.

>>52514767
Yeah, I really wish I could just give a couple sisters flamers and the rest swords.

>>52514689
If I have the influence and resources to get a costum made power armour I would add all sort of crazy things
Also that >>52514745

You seem to forget humans (not space marines) love to show off their human forms. So boob, nipple, abs, feet, heels armours make perfect sense in universe

>>52514824
Redunancy? What do you mean exactly?
I'm worried about the knight getting popped early, leaving me -1 unit of kataphrons that would likely still be on the table. It makes a good distraction carnifex though.

>>52514249
Anyone?

>>52514872
>Redunancy? What do you mean exactly?
well
>the inclusion of extra components that are not strictly necessary to functioning, in case of failure in other components.

Having an extra unit of kataphrons+techpriest+psyker gives your list redundancy, in case something bad happens to the first one.

https://youtu.be/Cgaq2V9RLGA

>>52514745
I want to bang your inquisitor really bad!

>>52511477
Why no Hunter Cadre ? The Ethereal is good, but depends if you want that sweet sweet +1BS and multiple unit Overwatch

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>>52510440

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>>52514921
Ah okay I understand.
I guess it's just deciding between these two lists.
I still don't know if my ranger/vanguard squads are optimized in number or wargear if you have any input on that as well