Pathfinder General /pfg/

>>52507414
fucking furries get out of my board reee

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How much have you spent on Pathfinder?

>>52507487

Exactly zero dollarydoos.

>>52507487
Like twelve dollars on a harrow deck because it was cool?

I'm finally ending my game this week.

Only been running it since November but holy fuck it's gonna be so cathartic for me to finally finish it.

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>>52507411
Either this art or >>52507028
Bushi Warlord with trait for Riven
Focus into Mithral and Riven with hints of Golden lion
Using Polearm Dance
Musetouched Aasimar
Taldan-born minor noble gone wanderlust adventurer after being cooped up too much.

I have never looked into VMCs so I have no idea what to do. I just want her to be fast lancer girl

>>52507487
I've got pretty much all the hardcovers except the NPC Compendiums, Unchained, and a few other pointless ones...

Short session, real life got in the way. Only Reina and Alexa were available.
>Hell's Rebels B-Team, Session 2 Start!
>Mission : Rescue the Orator!
>Lady Verita is in danger, a growing voice for the rebellion in the meadhalls of Kintargo
>The party, busy as they are, need to spare some time to help her!
>Reina volunteers to sniff her out, only later realizing she volunteered herself for
>Unbeknownst to most, Lady Verita is a stripper in the Redroof Lounge!
>Most awkward doggo has to slip in and try to hire her for the night before the Chelish Citizens beat her to it!
>Refusing all booze and physical contact, she manages to stammer and bribe her way into a private room with Lady Verita
>Just in time for the party crashers to arrive!
>Changing herself into delicious brown elf and certainly not the missing noble, Alexa Jones, Lady Verita grabs Reina and runs for it towards the sewers
>Which are secretly repurposed catacombs from decades past! Who knows what foul undead crocodiles wait for them?

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>>52507505

Not a lot of art featuring women holding onto big poles, eh?

>>52507487
The only PF related thing I've bought for real besides dice is path of war expanded, to show support

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>>52506141
>What would you say are the key differences between the Avowed and the Kineticist?
In 1pp, the kineticist is [s]really bad[/s] overall, a weaker class than the avowed is. Gonna be upfront about that. We weren't balancing around the kineticist; our goal is somewhere near the 6-casters and similar classes.

Overall, the kineticist is much more /focused/ than the avowed—Tav pointed out that it doesn't run like the warlock, despite superficial similarities, and this is very true with the avowed as well. There's a couple important differences that cause this playstyle change.

>Burn
Burn is the biggest difference; the kineticist isn't truly an all-day class (though the optimal playstyle is to pick up the minimum amount of burn to turn on your Overflow bonuses, then never take burn again unless it's an emergency), and burn is a sharp limiting factor. This changes how a lot of their out of combat utility functions; most of the time, their utility stuff is "costs 0 burn, or costs 1 burn to do a greater effect," as opposed to the avowed (and the warlock it was based on), which just... has an ability, and it does a thing. Not quite variable. Most of the time, this is a plus for the avowed, but with the 3pp kineticists , kineticist has unique tricks of its own.

>Blasts
Where the avowed goes for creating breadth of combat playstyle choices out of the box (with the shapes), the kineticist has to pick and choose its blasts at the expense of utility. Personally, I really hate this in the 1pp stuff, because it means you're forced to choose between "able to vaguely contribute in combat" and "able to uniquely contribute out of combat," which just generally feels bad to me, from a player and design standpoint. The 3pp kineticists (Jolly's legendary kineticists, and, though a bit disengenuous, my own kineticists for DSP) take steps to help counter this, giving you stronger things out of the box and opening up a bit more access to /fun/ stuff, so I recommend it.

(1/2)

>>52507516
I wanted her to look somewhat happy, since I kinda imagined her as a genki type.

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(2/2)

>>52506141
>>52507524
>Damage and numbers
If there's something that the kineticist probably has over the avowed (or will, in the end, once we figure out how to deal with the mess that is Overcharge Modulation) is damage. Elemental Overflow is actually a really sizeable buff to physical stats, and composite blasts hit /hard/. Even in 1pp, by the later levels, a kineticist with a kinetic blade in one hand (composite blast) and a Conductive off-hand weapon will have some brutal full attacks. The kineticist also has some strong mobility at later levels that the avowed can't match, thanks to Ride the Blast + extending talents. But that overall comes at a cost.

>Focus
The kineticist is, in the end, way more focused in build than an avowed will be, most of the time. The avowed has some stuff that /enforces/ breadth, a bit, while the kineticist is really most about "pick your thing and do it." The 1pp kineticist isn't really good at that, but I recommend checking out Legendary Kineticists or the PsiAug Occult/Divergent Paths kineticists. I've personally played a few of these and quite enjoyed them.

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>>52507526

How's this?

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>>52507542
>>52507526

Or... This!

>>52507542
But she isn't an elf ;_;

>>52507508
Anyone have a summary for the first session?

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>>52507562

B-But I thought you said you wanted elf ears...

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>>52507580
That wasn't me, I was the Djeeta-poster.

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>>52507524
>because it means you're forced to choose between "able to vaguely contribute in combat" and "able to uniquely contribute out of combat," which just generally feels bad to me, from a player and design standpoint

Well golly gee Forrest, maybe you shouldn't be putting combat clauses in the same resource pool as non-combat clauses then.

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>>52507591

Oh.

>>52507534
>>52507524
Thanks, definitely something to consider. I am familiar with LK, KoP, PsiAug and Divergent Paths. I pretty much always allow them, and give the materials to my players to look into. Overcharge Modulation strikes me as something that really shouldn't have been there in the first place- Let the Kineticist have its blast damage and extreme mobility over the Avowed, I feel, and I'll be happy. Though you have got me interested in TWFing with a kinetic blade and conductive sword- that was in a build idea I was considering

>>52507487
Maybe a few hundred, personally? I buy hardcopies of my favorite APs and an occasional splatbook that interests me, along with the Core Rulebook. A lot of my books, however, have been presents from friends over the years.

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What 3p material is the Visceral Kineticist from?

>>52507505

Take Cavalier. You get the order benefit, which is good and there are lots of em!

Also, while the other art was nice, this is classier!

>>52507608
Ideally I think every clause should have an in combat or out of combat use, besides stuff like the skill clauses.

However, I think the Aspirant form modifications needing to compete with clauses makes this a much bigger problem for that archetype.

>>52507608
With 5 clauses per grade, you should be able to afford to invest both in combat and non-combat clauses.

SHOULD be able to, but we also don't have enough non-combat clauses. Not going to pretend that's not a design problem, but once we DO sort that out you should easily have enough clauses to contribute both in and out of combat.

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>>52507634
I still appreciate the help though!

>>52507661
VMC cavalier? What'd be an appropriate order?

I kinda liked the art anon found for me, it has that arabian feel to it a bit.

>>52507608
You know what, as a houserule- you could totally say "you can't take more than 1/2 your Avowed Level in 'Combat Clauses'" or something. I'm not saying add that in- but give an Avowed the option of focusing on their combat niche

>>52507657
Legendary Kineticists... Two, I believe?

>>52507702
A white girl in a weeb class who's an araboo?

>>52507487
Aside from the core rulebook and such the only actual thing I bought was The Slumbering Tsar Saga.

>>52507715
But it's a weeb class using lances! I'm fucking garbage and I know it.

>>52507715

>Blonde white girl obsessed with Arabia

ULFEN
YES

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>>52507731
Anon, you're not garbage...

>>52507702
>>52507715
Araboo is a good idea.

Dragon or Flame are solid orders. Read them and take your pick. You'll only get a few features from it so you don't need to like the whole package.

>>52507731
I mean... with that kind of picture some kind of polearm using dervish dancer bard would fit better me thinks.

>>52507608
>>52507693
To elaborate... There's a reason I used the terms "vaguely contribute in combat" and "uniquely contribute out of combat" for the forced choice I was illustrating.

With the avowed, it's not a /forced/ choice. You will generally have enough clauses to pick up what you want (and can use feats to get more, if that's not enough, on top of chameleon clauses being useful for utility if you need /even more).

With the kineticist, you get one wild talent per two levels, and they're also massively limited because of their prerequisites and level requirements. "I have to pick X wild talent at Y level, because at the next one I have something I want that requires it."

In my opinion, the kineticist's issue is that they don't get ENOUGH talents. In comparison, the avowed /can/ choose to get all combat options (which overlap because of action costs) or all noncombat options (and be carried in combat by their shapes), or a mix, and they'll function regardless. The kineticist can't do that.

>>52507693
IMO, between shapes, I honestly wonder why you have just SO MANY combat clauses. Like, seriously. Chances are by the time you get to any of the really good clauses you'll have two fully charged shapes ready. You're not gonna be starved for things to do if you're smart.

I'm looking for a class or archetype that has does things at random. I'm new on the scene and hearing stories of wild mages gets my pants wet. Anything like this in legit Pathfinder?

>>52507768

Wild Magic is totally a thing in Pathfinder, though it's variant rules and will have to be talked about with your DM to see if it fits within their campaign.

>>52507785
Which class has access to it?

>>52507754
She still has high perform dance for mithral current though.

>>52507753
I'm worried a bit about AC with flame, so I think dragon might be a bit more safe.

>>52507806

AC doesn't mater

>>52507487
a lot on miniatures. still waiting on bones 3 to arrive.

>>52507766
Because Warlock had so many.
That's not '3.5e was designed perfectly and we're imitating it', that's "we ported it directly and there was a lot more combat stuff available TO port and now we're running low on ideas because Pathfinder doesn't have interesting out of combat spells that are worth spending 1/20th of all your class resources on without becoming obscenely overpowered"

>>52507763
I've honestly considered giving Kineticists a bone and setting the rate at which they gain wild talents and infusions to be at 1 every 1.25 levels, rather than 1 every two. I feel that would be a pretty significant buff that would put the Kineticist on par with the Avowed and free up build options >.>

Especially in addition to all the 3pp love that gets showered on Kineticists, it could potentially work out!

Kineticist gets all this love but the Medium is left in the dust and that activates my almonds.

>>52507796

Technically any of the spellcasters, Wild Magic is what happens when a caster fails to safely cast a spell or you're in a region where magic is inherently unstable.

>>52507835
Yeah, I can see that working. Maybe uh... let them use the wizard level progression instead of sorcerer, for their prereqs, as well.

Getting wild talents at odd levels, but unlocking wild talent prereqs at even levels, is suffering.

>>52507828
It also would eat up my swifts which I think I want for counters, boosts and gambits.

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>>52507835
Realistically, all you need to fix the kineticist and slam it up from tier 4 or 5 (depending on element choice) is more talents and running on stamina burn rather than HP burn. That's how I see it, at least.

>>52507847
It truly is. I LOVE Kineticists, and there's some NEAT stuff you can do with Burn and the variant rules based off of it, along with all the fun stuff like Roil Dancer and Gambler and Avant Guard and all of Jolly's stuff for it. I want Avowed to be good but I don't want it to completely and utterly overshadow the Kineticist. My design philosophy is to start weak and then buff as needed anyhow, but that's just me

>>52507487
Core Rulebook
Bestiary 1-5
Inner Sea Races
Inner Sea World Guide
Inner Sea Gods
Villain Codex
Monster Codex
NPC Codex
Advanced Race Guide
Advanced Player's Guide
Advanced Class Guide
Ultimate Magic
Ultimate Combat
Ultimate Equipment
Ultimate Intrigue
Strange Aeons 1-6
Ironfang Invasion 1-2
Pathfinder Unchained
Horror Adventures
Occult Adventures
Mythic Adventures
Gamemastery Guide

>>52507875
This. Handle burn, and handle the awfulness of their limited talents, and the kineticist becomes a rather fun class.

>>52507858
Dragon's the team player order anyway

>>52507832
Fair enough. I'm not nearly as familiar with the system as you folks probably are. Never touched 3.5e either, aside from seeing things that I REALLY WISH WERE ACTUALLY PORTED OVER So many fucking cool feats that never made it. Int-based monks? Sign me the fuck up.

Have you tried looking through magic items instead of spells? Maybe there's effects there that would be less... Troublesome to turn into clauses?

>>52507487
I've spent about $200 dollars.

>>52507883
The avowed will overshadow the 1pp-only kineticist, and that's just a depressing fact of life, because of its issues. I don't think that it'll overshadow 3pp-in kineticists though... or it shouldn't, in our design goals. /Those/ kineticists have some unique strengths and utility (avant guard aether element with massive telekinetic lifting is some fun stuff, fyi). We're still tweaking things, though, to find the right balance for the avowed.

>>52507875
>>52507883
Stamina burn I've considered. Making it a "Kinetic Stamina" pool that allows you to pay costs (but isn't reduced by infusion specialization) is a workable idea, and attaching to it some of the utility wild talent abilities that are GREAT temporarily, but cost too much burn to use every combat. It'd have to be something like... 1/2 Kineticist Level + Constitution modifier.

>>52507905
I want a good mental-stat kineticist q.q

Kineticist is fucking BORING, even with 3pp.

Curse of Strahd(D&D5e) converted to Pathfinder.

Yea/Nay?

>>52507931
Why not base the stamina pool off their BAB? Then you can attach it to the standard stamina rules that were introduced in Unchained.

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It's probably too late to apply for LoBaF, isn't it?

>>52507967

Yay?

I just want to play a dueling Paladin with bonuses to one-handing a sword.

>>52507704
Aww shoot. So basically the one not in the pdf troves?

>>52507967

YES ANON

>>52507973
3 hours and we have at least 2 people finishing their characters right now in this thread. If you got something you should do it.

>>52507905
Not helping matters is that we dealt with some of the weaker non-combat 3.5e invocations by folding them into other ones - for example, the Water Walking one and the swim speed/water breathing one were at the same level, so... we merged them rather than forcing you to pick in what specific circumstances you'd like to be good at dealing with water.

>>52507967
I love me some Ravenloft. DO IT, BITCH.

>>52507973
There's always next time.

>>52507973
You still have a few hours.

>>52507973
You should go for it if that's your art. 10/10 would go to war for this maiden

>>52507969
Potentially. It's rather late at night and again, needs to be tinkered with, but it might work. Maybe say they get extra stamina but the stamina from "Kinetic Stamina" can be spent on infusions OR feat stuff, while the rest of the pool can only be used on feat stuff.

It kind of strikes me that the Kineticist is more martially-focused than the Avowed.

>>52507979
...it is in the troves? It was there last I checked

>>52508018
I'm actually going to PM the artist first. I'd feel rude doing it without asking. If I don't get permission in time then I'll just save it in the folder.

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>>52507923
>>52507993
You guys really need to make the avowed less dogshit at skills and noncombat that isn't covered by their clauses.

I'd like to see some FREE purely non-combat clauses at some odd levels.

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Do we have last call on complete apps for Legacy?

>>52507534
This only applies in 1pp to melee however.

If you want good damage you'll want 3pp access and you do have to optimize the fuck out in order to just keep up with bows and the such. CAN be done, but you need a really solid grasp on the class and multiple books to pull it off.

>>52507414
I'm actually debating whether to use that archetype for my Shardmakers app.

I'm playing a character with a childlike wonder in a different game also, who has the Unlearned drawback and 0 ranks in any knowledge, though she's also highly observant of social cues, rather wise, and neutral evil in alignment.

>>52507657
if you mean the element that's from Kineticists of Porphyra 2.

Good element, that one.

>>52508061
Well, you don't actually need art to submit your character. So just post the art later.
>>52508066
We're going down to the wire! This is it!

>>52507763
You might wanna specify that technically you already do untyped damage and the main output factor is your shapes, modulations are just downgrading to elements in exchange for special effects.

Although that's nominally, once the numbers match up so as to no longer be entirely dependent (and in some cases still too low) on overcharging.

>>52507702
Anyways, I'm pretty sure that metal strap is some kind of uncomfortable underwear.

>>52508092
Looks like the autistic cardgames memewaifu was wrapped-up last minute.

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>>52508089
Ah! You're exactly right. Thank you anon-kun!

>>52508066
I'm counting 3 WIP characters floating around this thread. I'm sure there're more who've just kept quiet and finished apps a week ago to post at the last hour, feels like every game has one of those.

Last call on complete apps isn't until deadline is up basically.

>>52508113
FUCKING GOOD!

>>52507684
Can I ask why you feel Aspirants needing to spend clause slots on form modifications is a problem? It felt the easiest way to ensure parity with other Avowed.

>>52508142
I didn't follow up on it because thinking about it I realised you could simply see form modifications as "even stronger and more situational combat only clauses". Or hell, "Aspiration only clauses".

Which isn't a problem in itself, but it exaggerates the ratio of combat to noncombat options to spend a limited number of features on even more than the base avowed.

>>52507875
Stamina as burn does quite a bit for it, although the lack of decent feats like energy aim do leave kineticists lacking in the damage department without 3pp.

I am currently playing a stamina-supported Temporal Onslaught Sniper - a terrible combo for damage (onslaught works differently from regular blasts so time is doubly damage-fucked there) - and with enough optimization and getting the right items WILL be able to hold my own in a proper "party blaster" position anyways.

Utility-wise, Stamina allows for limited-per-moment but "all day" use of some very powerful effects; to the point where I would suggest UTILITIES cost 2x their burn in stamina rather than 1x in the future.

Notably: Future Glimpse.

>>52508186
Wouldn't the way to solve the all day stuff being constantly able to be used just make it a 24 hour expenditure of stamina, whereas combat stuff recovers normally?

>>52508201
I want Aqua's butt

THREE
HOURS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJjoZccwV8s

I remember posting this a VERY VERY VERY long time ago. It's a conversion of some paladin stuff to antipaladin stuff

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pl00apM9VDmhmLQZxzYJMmY6QLrLFhap3vH7bXnKtgg/edit

>>52508214
Then that defeats the purpose of the kineticist being "all day"

Gosh I just really want to make the Devoted Muse PrC work.

>>52508226
What? How would it? I'm talking the wild talents that would normally give you a buff that lasts for 24 hours or until you rest next costing stamina for the duration of the ability, but combat effects (like kinetic blade) recovering normally - IE, one per minute, effectively making them per encounter.

It means you can load all to high hell up on 24 hour buffs and rely on weak combat, or leave your stamina free to fight hard.

>>52508063
Avowed are getting a skill buff in an upcoming update. Nonetheless, 'dogshit at skills' seems more than a little extreme as a response - sure, they're currently behind stuff like the Bard, Ranger, or Inquisitor, and we're working on fixing that, but they're still head and shoulders above classes with no skill bonuses.

Also, "they need to be good at stuff without using their clauses" is not going to be solved by "more clauses". We're happy with their progression, especially as they lose almost no DPR by taking ALL non-combat clauses. Just slight combat utility.

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Who the hell is "Siobhan Bjorknas" and why does he have so much editing power over the Spheres of Might playtest?

He sure as hell isn't in the credits and he's with Ssalarn in ganging up on 2hu.

>>52508244
OH

I completely misunderstood that. So basically a system kind of like Incarnum- I get you now. That totally works!

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>>52508222
>three hours
What have I gotten myself into?

>>52508251
Could you please write an avowed clause that gives them a collective? I really want to see some telecommunication in the party!

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>>52508260
Just do your best.
But seriously, they close at midnight PST.

>>52508260
I believe in you.

>>52508255

Nobody cares, Lily.

Go suck 2hu's dick elsewhere.

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>>52508222

>>52507973
Hey man, I'm just getting started right now. You can do it anon!

>>52508288
Perhaps lyrics would inspire you better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEr6xocm6Dk

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>>52508260
All that matters is that you did your best. I b-believe in you.

>Final LoBaF group is composed of 6 final hour apps
I applied early and I would not be upset at all.

>>52507414

Isn't that what "Level 0" translates to?

>>52508288
I'm applying out of foppery and whim, just like Attenborough!

>>52508314
Same here, pal.

>>52508302
Why wasn't this character art.

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>>52508324
Because I used this.

>>52508337
Cute

>>52508255
Agreeing with Ssalarn does wonders in getting him to not shit all over you.

>>52508243
Realistically Devoted Muse is only an option for the Swashbuckler

Enjoy being shit

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>>52508349
She's a miracle of the universe.

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That feel after seeing all this good character art it makes me want to switch the art for my character.

>>52507414
When will Paizo get better novels? All the Pathfinder Tales shit is written in the first person. Gross.

>>52508412
That said, Radovan is kinda cool. I imagine his lines in Ron Perlman's voice.

>>52508412
What's wrong with first person!?

I actually dislike it too but I've never been able to put together my words against it, so I want to steal from you.

>>52508428
It's difficult to take it as an objective story if everything is tainted by the viewpoint of the main character or the character whose viewpoint it's from. If they're a shit character it's a shit story, while a third person story can still be good even if the MC is shit.

Oftentimes there's less imagery in first person as well.

>>52508412
>>52508428
It makes me feel like I need to take a shower.

>>52508356
At least devoted muse is a straight upgrade since it gets cha to AC and gets CC added onto its feints and some extra damage shit, in addition to maintaining deed progression

Its probably the best a swashie can hope for

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>>52508410
Mods are asleep post witches.

>>52508439
To be fair, that's often actually the reason they justify writing those things in the first person in the first place.

"Oh, it would make no sense for this book set in the Successor states to be writen in third person, since it's the story of a protagonist who's never been in Tian Xia!"

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>>52508410
Come to think of it I've never played a vanilla elf wizard.

Is it fun?

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>>52508473
I fucking love witches.

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>>52508493

>>52508473
Art so good.

>>52508473
But the post you responded to has a Magus.

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>>52508493

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>>52508473

>>52508259
Another way to amp up the kineticist's combat ability might be to allow for certain weapons that can be "buffed" by certain wild talents.

for example, a sword that. when you cast Kinetic Blade through it, costs you no burn and adds the kinetic blade damage to its effects rather than casting the kinetic blade as a separate thing. Sort of like weapon buffs from Dark Souls.

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>>52508493
Which flavor is best?

Lady eccentric from a proper family?

Folksy rural healer girl?

Derelict who pursues forbidden power?

Slut?

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>>52508528
I actually own the minis of these and use them when I DM. My friends aren't allowed to judge anymore ever since the brothel incident.

>>52508549
Yes.

>>52508549
I like to combine pairs of these, actually
>eccentric rural lady that practices folksy healing arts
>derelict slut pursuing forbidden power

And so forth.

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>>52508549
I like my witches classic, but sexy instead of haggish. Hanging out in a coven, plotting eccentric magical evils while they stir around a pot. Basically I play them like sororities.

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>>52508489
Truth be told I rarely ever play casting classes. I usually do straight martials or some kind of gish. Though before I made an app the forum was already filled with martials so I thought I'd try something different for a change.

Playing elves of any kind though, it's fun. I did have an elf winter witch a few times.

>>52508473
Currently looking up my options :p

>>52508559
what is kingdom death
can you play it without having to spend loads of money

>>52508606
You gotta shill hard for that one my friend.

>>52508594
Oh shit son I think I found the art to use for my character's mother

Keep it up last second anons!

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>>52508587
>tfw tempted to run comfy all 1pp fullcaster game that's set in a magical academy
>the witches run the show because of their superior debuff powers
>it's basically Pathfinder: Mean Girls

>>52508546
You know, potentially, that could work. Maybe allowing you to grant your allies the ability to land Substance Infusions- i.e, giving your TWF rogue the Metallic Infusion if they're wielding metal weapons, or even Toxic Infusion. Maybe certain form infusions could work with more mundane weapons? Kinetic Blade on a fighter's greatsword? Extreme Range on a Gunslinger's rifle? IT could work.

>>52508629
She must be super cute! Extra cute! Incredibly cute then! Can I meet her?

>>52508629
No problem man. It's a good pic.

>>52508606
Buy Tabletop Simulator.

>>52508650
Don't forget the archetype from Gonzo which debuffs people by being an ultracatty bitch!

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>>52508629
>>52508651
>you wanna bang that girl's mom so you date her until she wants to marry you and takes you home to present to her parents

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>>52508651
I think it'd require a specific weapon enchantment. Probably only a +1 enchantment, +2 at most, since it requires you to have a specific class feature in order to actually make it work.

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>>52508606
It's a very expensive board game. Campaign based, with the game being roughly divided into city management and dungeon crawling, except it's a tribe instead of a city and instead of a dungeon it's basically hell. The setting is really dark, and despite the art I posted, not actually fetishy as much as it is gruesome. I enjoy it a lot, and the miniatures are great and make up most of the price tag.

But yeah, you can play it for the price of Tabletop Simulator instead. I've never tried it online but people in the /tg/ threads talk about it so it must work decent.

>>52508587
>sororities
>not haggish

>>52508650
inb4 magical school shooting

>>52508700
>[Pumped up Kicks intensifies]

>>52508700
THEY SAID I WASN'T A REAL CASTER. I WENT TO SCHOOL, I DIDN'T BOTHER ANYONE. JUST BECAUSE I WAS BORN A SORCERER THEY LOOK DOWN ON ME. WELL, I SHOWED THEM WHAT 18 CHARISMA IS WORTH WHEN IT DOESN'T MEAN GOOD LOOKS.

>>52508700
>Some of you are alright
>Don't go to Hogwarts tomorrow

Okay Legacy apps, which two apps do you NOT want to make the final cut?

>>52508754
Not this shit

>>52508683
Actually I want to hang out with her son and bully him

>>52508700
>>52508710
>>52508718
>>52508721

>inb4 why didn't those columbine fags use a wand of magic missile

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Making a skald for a game my roommates running next week and I've got a question. A lvl1 character gets a feat and human bumps that up to two correct? And if so, what are some good choices for skald? I picked up lingering performance already.

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>>52508671
>>52508697
>>52508710
>>52508718
>>52508721
So what you're saying is... run it?

>>52508684
While we're on the topic of kineticists, say you were to use VMC Fighter to get access to Weapon Training, can you apply it to kinetic blasts, or is it just restricted to the fighter weapon types list?

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>Still need a surname for araboo lance-chan
Naming characters is the worst part of any game.

>>52508780
What class would the supreme gentleman be?

>>52508072
What the fuck archetype are you talking about

>>52508806
https://www.dungeonetics.com/pfnames/taldan.html

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>>52508780
Not my strike zone for a game but I would look forward to the green texts every week.

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>>52508780
Huh, I think I just found a picture I could replace with in my Blingmaker app.

>>52508835
Looks too lewd.

>working on LoBaF last minute app
>accidentally delete it all
HAHA, WELP!

>>52508860
ctrl z dude

>>52508860
NOT LIKE THIS

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>>52508860
BUT I WANTED TO SEE IT.

>>52508845
Gold is one helluva drug. On that topic though does it?

>>52508767
Don't worry. We'll ensure you remain completely anonymous.

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>>52508809
The what?

>>52508864
Apparently doesn't work on roll20.

>>52508879
No I mean that's a stupid way to breed salt, not a good idea.

>>52508886
Uh, yeah it does, I do it all the time when making posts.

>when i want to apply to blingmaker because i want to meme but not actually get in

kill me

>>52508777
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/skald-s-vigor/

and then you make sure you qualify for Greater Skald's Vigor by level 11

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/greater-skald-s-vigor/

Raging vitality is also something you'd probably want.

Have we ever tried getting a discord together? If /wbg/ has a pretty good one I don't see why we can't have one

>>52508893
4/5 apps I make are only for the fun of making apps. Just do it, character building is most of the fun in Pathfinder.

>>52508860
Please say you weren't cute lancer girl

>>52508860
Just get some rudimentary tl;dr version out anyway, and link your character sheet. Something to grab the GM's attention and show you're ready.

>>52508906
but anon

I'm afraid i'll actually get in and i can't handle that fear

>>52508901
Considering the thread keeps talking about the Cabal, yeah.

>>52508901
https://discord.gg/RXmTKzC

We have one, anon.

>>52508907
I'm still here, doing the expanded write-ups, and double checking the sheet.

>tfw I normally take weeks to do an app, and I'm cranking one out in less than half a day
I guess bullying has its perks.

>>52508907
Now that I think about it, did no one else plan an Araboo? Is it only hindsight that makes it seem like an obvious tie-in for an out of town character?

>>52508926
Just send a PM to the GM saying you don't want in. It's a ruse.

That way the other apps start sweating

>>52508930
fuck yeah, thanks my dude

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>>52508893
I'm actually tired of memes.

I just want to play.

>>52508926
List your schedule as something problematic.

>>52508963
Schedule: Open never

>>52508946
It needs to be in the thread OP

>>52508970
nah, throw it in the pastebin

When is Power Attack not worth using with a two-handed weapon?

Hey anons, bad news

WWW is cancelled

>>52508889
I actually just wanted to know for when I apply to blingmaker. What makes an app unappealing, and what could change it?

>>52508989
fucking
never

>>52508993
It's april 2nd dude. You're a day late.

>>52508989
When your target has a fuckhueg AC

which is basically only ever going to be an issue at very low level, when you've got a 50% chance to miss even without penalties.

>>52508993
That a bamboozle if i've ever seen one

>>52509003
>>52509016

It's not a joke though, it really is canceled. All your apps were shit.

>>52508988
Nobody checks the pastebin ever.

>>52508886

Control-Z is really sketchy in roll20. Seriously, go play around with it. It'll undo a random amount of text, maybe all of it, though you can get it back with Control-Shift-Z.

I've 'lost' a post before because I'm used to everything using control-y to redo text, not control-shift-z.

>>52508898
Skald's vigor doesn't stack well with lingering performance, and we'll have a dedicated healer.

Raging vitality seems great, but does that affect just me? Or does raging song give it to everyone?

>>52509020
Even mine?

>>52508989
A +1 to Hit is something close to +5% damage, so in theory I guess you wouldn't power attack if the damage bonus was worth less than 5% of your attack.

So realistically never if you built half-way competently.

>>52509020
If you're actually Broodie, post in the Discord. And on Roll20.

>>52509024
yeah but then when someone asks for a link we can just say 'its in the pastebin'

>>52509030
Especially yours. You should feel ashamed.

>>52509025
might I suggest

doing it in a google doc?

>>52509030
Especially yours. It made me vomit.

>>52509025
Their whole word processing software is shit. I brought it up on their forums and they basically said it would remain shit cause everything is built up from it or whatever.

>>52509030
Don't listen to those other guys I fapped to your app.

>>52509040
But it means everyone will need to ask for a link or might even go without knowing it exists.

>>52509037
>he's not aware of the shitposting going on in the discord right now

Its almost like there's an obvious bamboozle in this thread because of the DISCORD CABAL

>>52509026
Only affects you fampai

>>52509075
With how often that shit updates I just turned off the notifications. I only check it every so often.

>>52509089
same

>>52509079
Aight. That'll do.

>>52509020
Alright mates, I'm going to announce a new game that rides off the coattails of WWW. Same setting, same chargen, and everyone gets a free VMC.

All applicants are accepted.

The downside is that regardless of your statline, you must be willing to roleplay as a female human in an all-female party.

>>52509115
>a new rape game

Sign me up!

>>52509115
i'm worried

Does this involve large minos males

>>52509115
Only if we spend the entire app submission process making up new definitions for the acronym WWW.

>>52509139
World Wide Weeb

>>52508549
Wizened old crone living alone in the forest.

Anything else is weebshit.

Welp, slapped it together. Wish me luck.

>>52509115
>>52509139
>Wet, Wild Wyverns

>>52509139
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cXhs1EAqouRkoCxAw-NFKiih7rcYRUy6vaaOESpmcY8/edit

We need another one of these, yeah?

>>52509159
ganbaru

>>52508942
The anticipation is killing me

>>52509159
>waifu app

I know what you were slapping together and it wasn't your keyboard keys.

>>52509075
DHB doesn't touch any of the discords, why?

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>>52509159
Well you still got an hour and some to polish it up a bit more, OR YOU COULD SPEND THAT TIME FINDING A CUTE PICTURE.

>>52508831
Sweating bullets trying to find sauce
google, you're failing me my man

>>52509206
who cares?

>>52509214
Search penismith, one s. I spent years not being able to find it because I used two.

>>52509199
I have a feeling /pfg/ is going to go into MAXIMUM OVERBULLY when I post this.

>>52509208
Eh. I'd honestly be insulted if I got in. And if you can find good art of a woman in her late 40s/early 50s, then it's Ana, from Overwatch.

>>52509237
Fuck em. You pulled together an app when most of us can't

>>52509229
I can sleep well knowing this now, thanks anon.
You're a saint
A SAINT!

>>52507741
Damn it bear! Not only did you make me late, you did so by filling me with a false sense of self-worth!

>>52509237
Why would they?

>>52508412
Just read Gareth's, it has coffee knights

Are there any good LOGS being released this week?

>>52509237
Just pull the trigger. You can't be worse than the warder.

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So who are the members of the /pfg/ elite who always get accepted into most games?

>>52509308
Not DHB

>>52509295
>logs

Last time that happened, anon, bad things happened.

>>52509308
Uh

Captain Slow, Chaika-anon and... I can't remember. I don't actually know.

>>52509308
They're literally all from Yuggoth, but don't tell them I told you that.

>>52509308
Adam, fuck that guy and his potoo piece-of-shit avatar.

>>52509318
>that spoiler

nani, do you know something I don't?

>>52509318
>Last time that happened, anon, bad things happened.

But I need the logs, son! I gotta play vicariously through the games of others.

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>>52509318
>>52509329
Felyndiira too.

>>52509308
Krim

>>52509318
I believe what the good anon means is "greentexts", not "logs". At least, he doesn't mean ERP logs.

But if he does, and I'm wrong, then fuck that asshole.

>>52509308
Broodie

>>52509350
I thought we called them all LOGS, even when they were just greentext summaries.

Though I'm not gonna turn down some sexy logs

gosh can we not start this AGAIN

>>52509308
wist, krim, rgpl

>>52507487
Path of War Expanded
Lords of the Night
Psycrystals Expanded

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>>52507414

Hey, I need feedback for Draft 2 of my WWW app.

I've got an unabridged backstory right here that I wanna run by you folks. It's kind of lengthy, and I'm gonna distill the final result into bullet points, but here it is.

I work best with feedback. Note: Edginess ahead.

https://pastebin.com/kJjyBiMH

>>52509371
>>52509359
>>52509348
>>52509339
>>52509318
So..."Everyone who isn't me", then.

>>52509371
Wist is too cute.

>>52509376
I don't like the premise of the character to begin with

>>52509380
Sorry.

>>52509237
Come on, anon. We're counting on you being the star app.

>>52509371
>>52509359
>>52509348
>>52509339
>>52509329
>>52509318
What games have they all gotten into?
Who has the highest score?

>>52509392

Specifics, please! Like which part of the basic premise?

>>52509401
We need success ratings for each of these people, post em up

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>>52509389
Aw, that's too bad. Maybe the DM should find a sidekick or assistant to help run things.

>>52509376
I think its ok.

I'd like to see the actual character sheet and a personality blurb to really get a handle on the character

If you guys are salty bout not getting into any games, just GM for a bit.

People will eventually guarantee you a slot or bend over backwards to get you into their games.

>>52509412

Yeah, personality blurb is next on my list. And the charsheet's nearly done.

>>52509376
It's trying too hard

There's nothing interesting about being mentally damaged, it's sad

I am 99.9% sure you don't actually know how to roleplay a female with a "Cluster B personality disorder" making the entire character frankly disrespectful to people who have serious problems in life

>>52509399
Well that's a lot of pressure, but it's up

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>>52509406
Felyndiira and Wist both have a 100% success rate so far.

>>52509435
Good job. Straightforward, to the point, and cute.

>>52509462
So does Broodie, 2/2

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>>52509462
>tfw you have a 0% success rate

>>52509462

So do I, but I've only applied to like two games.

Also Felyndiira does not have a 100% rate. Their character for WotR at least got poor reviews and didn't get in.

>>52509478
I have a 100% success rate in getting bamboozled

Guess there's no shortage of waifus in legacy now.

>>52509435
I want to make your app my Sultana!

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>>52509479
>>52509479
>tfw ∞ success rate

>>52509496
Good. Maybe they can kick the disgusting male apps out.

>>52509504
Please

Its all Baras now

>>52509462
Wist didn't get into Hell's Vengeance though apparently weren't serious about that app

On the other hand
>Loli twins in FotJR
>Cashmere in PLD
What's their endgame?

>>52509506
I will resist it with my dying breath.

>>52509414

LOBAF has already evidenced that simply running a game isn't enough to make you popular or well-liked.

If you aren't willing to run a lewdgame and ERP with your players, you won't be popular.

All the popular players are part of their own little ERP clique.

>>52507487
Core Rulebook and Psionics Unleashed (The other core rulebook).

>>52509520
Cashmere's endgame is to be the cutest crumpet in all the land and get hugged by the whole party, who will all turn around and die defending her virtue at the drop of a hat.

>>52509523
You won't be able to breathe against those sculpted hairy pecs anon.

>>52509524
I think DHB could run a non-lewd game and still get a fuck ton of applicants.

>>52509474
>>52509499
Thanks! I honestly didn't think I'd finish this, but it was a lot less neurotic of a process to slam it out in a few hours, compared to the weeks I normally spend on apps. I had fun /pfg/, thanks for bullying me into it.

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>>52509479
>apply to 4 games, accepted into 0 games
>going to be rejected from Legacy
>going to be rejected from Blingmaker
>going to be rejected from WWW

At l-least I have shitposting...

>>52509543

Not with that "Exploding Collars TPK during session 2" story floating around, he won't.

>>52509520
Don't forget Evil lewd Game

>>52509541
If there's one thing LoBaF has taught me, it's that /pfg/ only judges a game based on the first app listed.
>one muscley dude
>mostly women
>attractive women
>WAAAAAH NO WAIFUS ALL BARA
And here I am just calmly waiting for the clock to run down.

>>52509553
>going to be rejected from WWW

COME NOW YOU DON'T KNOW THAT

>>52509544
I want to bully you into applying somewhere else!

>>52509544
Being able to smash out a character quickly is a fundamental skill to your development as a player. If nothing else, you've grown.

>>52509557
Every time I hear the story it keeps getting exaggerated more and more.

>>52509559
Is that the one that people kept dropping out of because it starts at 1AM?

That's still alive?

>>52509559
>3 lewd games
>2 of them explicitly sexual

Wist is a pervert!

>>52509553

T. K. maybe you need to start consulting with others and sprucing up your story a bit more when applying to games. (It's you, right?).

All your depression and self deprecation isn't getting you anywhere, and your characters approach 2hu levels of saminess.

>>52509564

It's true. Gamze was really popular, but when the GM and reviewanon came in here and said "She's shit, she probably won't get in", everyone stopped caring.

>>52509435
Quick heads up, the recruiters name is Grayth, which has been changed from Garavel in the player's guide for some reason, and Gorar is just a barber.

>>52509568
It really was an interesting process, despite being driven 100% be memes.

>>52509567
Pls no bully. My schedule can't really allow for more games.

>>52509585
Oh thanks dude, I'll change that up right now.

>>52509506
I still don't see what's so bara

>>52509582
>GM said any app was shit
Screencap or it didn't happen.

>>52509596
You're not keeping up with the memes dude.

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>>52509582
I'm not T.K.

>>52509580
That's...a good point, actually.

>>52509582
The only app that is truly shit is the brevic warder.
>Hurr I am sword guy from swordland

>>52509613
You'll be fine Exhack stop being a little bitch

>>52509596
It's Discord fucking around

This is what becomes of any thread with a discord

>>52509594
>Pls no bully. My schedule can't really allow for more games.

Does your schedule allow for 1-on-1 ERP sessions?

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>>52509619
>swordlords apps are so popular that they've spilled into other games.

>>52509629
I don't know how to ERP. Never done it before.

>>52509605
Is it just memes? I see two particularly manly apps, and I think Hogoth is a weak one. I like Sid but he seems like he'd fit the setting and tone of Blingmaker way better

>Finishing up my Silksworn occultist for Blingmaker
>Realize my stats are all kind of wonky
>Str: 9
>Dex: 10
>Con: 10
>Int: 20
>Wis: 14
>Cha: 16
I'm sure this'll be fine.

>>52509628
you highly overestimate the power of the discord to do anything but shitpost in the discord itself.

>>52509613

One day Exhack, you'll stop turning everyone off whenever you open your mouth to talk to a prospective GM and your quality waifu applications will shine like the polished turds mostly leaning on art and tropes that they are.

>>52509655
No people are just joking about the end of the 'spunky punchgirl meta' and saying bara is the new meta cause people whined about bara for some reason

>>52509661
It's a continuation of the daddy/"OwO what's this?" meta.

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>>52509582
>2hu levels of saminess
There is nothing wrong with animal races.

>>52509656
Silksworns are primarily casters to be honest; drop that WIS down to 12 and raise your CON up to 12 just to make sure you don't get imploded.

>>52509675
I didn't notice it before but bara is just what you get when daddy and punchgirls come together huh.

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>>52509656
>10 con

OH SHIT NIGGER WHAT'RE YOU DOING

>>52509636
Pogchamp \(^.^)/

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>>52509626
>>52509660
What.

I'm busy planning my game and also trying to figure out how to play a half-decent Zealot. This shit is crazy.

>>52509690
it really is

Bara is the natural evolution of the punchgirl and daddy-apps

>>52509695
Grab psicrystal and share pain...drown in DM tears.

>>52509695
People are just guessing like wild towards anyone that has ever felt their characters are bad

>>52509698
Here's hoping that smol qts will be a new meta to compliment the bara.

>>52509619
>>52509636
Am I the only one who thinks the app is fine and is actually a good example of the Outlander trait? He really is arriving penniless in a foreign land, there to see it with fresh eyes and a very different set of values.

>>52509695

Don't get me wrong: I want my character to have a runny at your character's cunny just as much as anyone else.