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D&D 5th Edition General Discussion

>New Unearthed Arcana: Trio of subclasses
http://media.wizards.com/2017/dnd/downloads/UAThreeSubclasses.pdf

>Don't forget to take the official survery on Theurgy and War Magic
http://sgiz.mobi/s3/9d26907ef733

>Official /5eg/ Mega Trove v4b
https://mega.nz/#F!z8pBVD4Q!UIJWxhYEWy7Xp91j6tztoQ

>Pastebin with resources:
http://pastebin.com/X1TFNxck

>5etools
https://5egmegaanon.github.io/5etools/5etools.html

>Previously, on /5eg/
>>52466511

How do you expect monday's arcana to disappoint you?
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Mrow?
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>>52474758
its gonna be about traveling

they'll stat up a Denny's
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>>52474758
Do you mean Arcana aren't meant to disappoint me?
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>>52474758
>How do you expect monday's arcana to disappoint you?
>UA: Forgotten Realms' Courts of Law
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item crafting
ITEM CRAFTING
I T E M C R A F T I N G
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>>52474802
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Married shy and virginal cleric. We been sleeping in the same room for a week and nothings happened. What should we do?
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After last thread's discussion about Shatterspike, it leaves me wondering about item durability and whatnot. I really want a UA about weird variant rules like that not least because I want Dark Sun and having durabilities for bone and wood weapons puts us one step closer to that, even if they don't release the official setting for a couple of years
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How can I get into and enjoy DnD more?

I feel like after 3 years of playing in this one campaign that I'm burnt out. I DM a Shadowrun game with the same group, and it's good because we can learn the new system and try different characters in a new setting.

I feel that in the 5e I've been playing I have seen every combination of character, and I'm not getting really invested anymore. The DM is pretty inflexible with custom stuff, so there isn't much room for innovation. The basic fighter/ranger/rogue/wizard/cleric stuff is pretty stale at this point.

It's probably just the campaign I hate now, because we haven't entered a Dungeon or seen a Dragon in about a year - but any way to get re-energized and excited for 5e? Leaving the group isn't an option, because without these guys I have literally no friends.
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>>52474703
>>52474743
I just mean bigger as in bulkier and taller than a standard human, not large. Guess my only options are dragonborn or something with no charisma
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>>52474841
Depending on her upbringing, she may be expecting you to initiate.
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>>52474841
discuss settling down and having children
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Next UA is about tracking your relationships with the rest of the party.
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>>52474849
Just play a different game dumbass.
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>>52474855
Shes so lovely and beautiful. I feel bad at the thought of defiling such a pure thing
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>>52474875

We do, I run a Shadowrun campaign. Nobody else in the group wants to DM except me and the guy who runs the DnD game. He would get pissy if we said 'We are bored' and wouldn't run an alternative.
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>>52474884
She probably cucks you with your party's half-orc literally every night, dumbass.
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>>52474802
Item crafting hotfix
Instead of 25GP per day, it's 25GP x player level
No need to thank me.
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>>52474841
Ask her god for guidance. More than likely, he'll support your desire to breed more followers.

In other words, ask God to wingman for you.
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>>52474841
Cast Guidance first
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Which type of cleric usually are the most chaste?
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>>52474944
r8p
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>>52474911
I can confirm that it's true.
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>>52474864
Speaking of which, the last campaign I ran I used the alignment graph from either 1e or 2e and tracked each character's alignment over time. I started them all out as Neutral and saw how their actions changed their alignment over time.

Near the end of the campaign one of them got incinerated by touching the Book of Exalted Deeds, and got super pissed until I showed him that according to all of his actions, good and evil, chaotic and lawful, his character was actually Neutral Evil.
After that he seemed satisfied with how his character got obliterated.
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>>52471448 here,
I just talked to my friend and it turns out he was looking at a completely different homebrew, which makes all of my previous arguments invalid. He wants to use the Summoner
https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Summoner_(Variant)
He's pretty much jerking off to how much customization there is and I know he's just gonna try to make the most blatantly OP shit and I'm never going to get him to accept refluffing an existing class and I'm just going to have to blatantly shut him down.

It's gonna be rough.
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New to D&D, playing a lawful good paladin with Oath of Devotion. What are these type of paladins' stance on killing in combat? Would they be ok with killing if it's justified, like bandits for example?
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>>52474986
>dandwiki
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>>52474996
Yes. Read your oath more carefully, it has answers to all the questions.
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>>52474986
>dandwiki

you fukd up
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>>52474996
You're a knight of justice, not a pacifict hippie. Deus vult!
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>>52474841
>>52474884
Stop trying to RP sex in dnd you fucking degenerate.

The DM doesn't want to describe it. The players don't want to hear it.
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>>52475052
And this is why giving everyone magic is a bad idea.
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>>52474999
>>52475023
Oh, no, we had this conversation already. Already showed him the pic and everything.

The problem is that he's a part-time DM too, so he goes around looking for shit like this
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>>52475061
>The DM doesn't want to describe it. The players don't want to hear it.
You don't know what sort of degenerates they play with
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>>52475052
>AverageDayInThay.webm
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Is there anywhere that has homebrew backgrounds? None of the ones in the book really fit my character
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>>52475113
The book explains how to make your own at the beginning of the section on backgrounds. There's a cloaked armored dude right next to the section I'm talking about.
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Tg, what happens if someone casts Magic Jar into an animated armor or a construct?
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>>52474946
Knowledge clerics are turbonerds by nature, so they probably have the most virgins.

But the most intentionally chaste? Hard to say. Maybe life clerics? A lot of them are either MMO healers who are too filled with hate to love anyone or they're betas trying to cope. Of course that has to be qualified by saying there's also healsluts who are the LEAST chaste form of cleric.
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Hey /5eg/, I made a revised version of the Wild Magic sorcerer archetype (because it sucks). If you could take a look and tell me how shitty it is, I'd appreciate it.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5qbO_sxOuuLUk5YbHJPcTd0U2M
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>>52475113
then how about not making a fucking special snowflake?

but really, the backgrounds on the book apply to pretty much everything if you are not retarded about it. just take the skills that suit it the best and write your own ideals and shit like everyone.
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>>52475113

Two skill proficiência, two tool or language proficiency, one ribbon

Knock yourself out
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>>52474986
>Dandwiki
Good luck anon, it's gonna be a wild ride
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>>52475023
>>52474999
There's literally nothing wrong with it though? Aside from being based on 3.5 and not entirely related to 5e.
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Githyanki Warriors deal 2d6 extra psychic attack damage on their greatsword strikes. Is this damage part of the sword itself, or the Gith imbuing it? of the 4 Gith, only the warrior's weapon is regarded as non-magical.
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>>52475150
Stop shilling your homebrew, c0re. Also, jump off the bridge.
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>>52475150
ITS SHIT

>>52475163
>proficiência
wtf
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>>52475175
i'm sure they tell you that non-githyanki can't even use the swords properly at all. and that they will find you and take the sword back, killing anything in the process.
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>>52475169
Ignoring all the shitty hombrew constantly forcing itself down your throat due to its shitty search engine and interface, its just a pain to read and doesn't even contain everything since its just based on the SRD.

Just use 5eanon tools. Even DnD Beyond is better than dandwiki, and its still in alpha.
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>>52475183
This is the first time I've posted it
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>>52475205
IT SUCKS
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>>52475199
I wouldn't be using it. I'd be selling it to a group of crazy powerful wizards. But that's only possible if its actually desirable.
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>>52475205
You've posted plenty of other shitty homebrew. Stop doing that. Nobody likes it, nobody wants to see it.
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So ghostly damage would normally be associated with Necrotic Damage right? I did want to go Light Cleric but I can't see Radiant making sense, is Death Cleric the best option for ghosty characters.
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>>52475223
What the fuck do you mean by "ghostly"?
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>>52475150
Idk, I think it's okay. If anything it's still underpowered. I really like Arcane Volatility, as it's similar to what I do for one of my player's characters.
What I do is every time they don't trigger a wild surge, the number required for it to trigger decreases by 1. It's either a representation of arcane energies building up inside and just begging for release, or it represents the sorcerer getting cocky and fucking up
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>>52475234
Refluffing Spiritual Guardians and other similar spells into summoning ghosts. I'm playing a tribal character whose whole tribe was murdered and he uses their spirits for protection and attacks.
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>>52475202
DnD Beyond has also been ported to 5egmegaanon, so there's that. :)
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>>52475256
There's literally a subclass for that.

https://5egmegaanon.github.io/5etools/classes.html#Barbarian,Path%20of%20the%20Ancestral%20Guardian%20(UA)
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>>52475268
but why would he want to implement an inferior service :^)
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>>52475275
I'm going for a caster character instead of a Martial. The idea did come to me but I'd rather be a Cleric.
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>>52475255
Cool, thanks for taking a look
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>>52475150
I don't like it. You go out of your way to make sure surges happen more frequently, but then you make the surge table absolutely no fun and, in fact, more often harmful than not. Why would anyone put up with someone playing this? It's inevitably going to fuck up the party during combat on a semi-regular basis.
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>>52475183
>>52475221
its
its not c0res
w-wha
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>>52475223
you could flavor just about any spell in the game as being carried out by a ghost at your request.
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>>52475323
Yeah I know. That's why it's an easy thing to do.

I'm just wondering if it would make more sense for benevolent spirits to do Necrotic or Radiant damage.
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>>52474849
Try out Roll20, or some other online service for games.

You're getting bored most likely because your DM has specific, unflexible campaigns. Find a new one online or in the area.
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Barbarian is in labor what do?
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>>52475303
So you think I should make the table bigger and get rid of some of the negative stuff?
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I made a homebrew for a Gun based archetype, criticism welcome.
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>>52475389
Stand clear, with her Strength score that baby is being shot out for 3d12+5 damage.
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>>52475426
Fuck off Matt. You shove too many features into a class to make your own bullshit when all you needed to do was give a Battlemaster a gun.
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>>52475426
You're not Matt Mercer and you didn't make this.
If you are Matt Mercer and made this, please fuck off. Guns don't belong in D&D, especially not pistols.
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>haven't had a session in months
>three weeks ago: sorry out of town
>two weeks ago: sorry family in hospital
>last week: sorry dont have time
>this week: sorry i didnt know we had a session
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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I'm considering removing the exhaustion penalty on Frenzy altogether and allowing it to be used once every short rest. Is this too strong? Too weak? Would it make my Barbarian player overpowered or possibly underpowered? I figured that it could work similar to Action Surge, but I'm not sure what effects it could have on the Barbarian long-term.
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>>52475426

I think 7th Sea did this sort of shit best.

>Guns do fuck tons of damage
>Pistols were flintlock
>But have shit range
>And accuracy
>And then require multiple rounds of reloading

Also it was based in pike and shot era. So fuck off with guns in D&D. Christ.
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>>52474743
>You'd need some Homebrew that lets you play as something like a Empyrean, Solar or Planetar to be large

How would you make that not broken?
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>>52475426
It's shit, anon
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>>52475451
>Guns don't belong in D&D, especially not pistols
Why don't you both just go fuck off?
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>>52475451
joke's on you
my setting has cowboys and indians with gauss pistols
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>>52475481
Make them recover exhaustion on a short rest. So they can push themselves to use it but doesn't make them worthless for 2 days.
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>>52475199
Oh, you can use the instamurder sword alright.
The issue is that The Sword Stalkers will come for you.
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So I'm starting a game on sunday and I want
to play as a blind wizard.

Could I use an owl familiar to negate disadvantage on ranged attack rolls? The owl could fly in, Help and fly out without a scratch since it's so fucking fast and doesn't trigger opportunity. However I'm not sure that Help applies to ranged spell attacks. Is this possible at all?
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>>52475219
they might want it for research, melt the silver and extract the etherealness. a githyanki sword is pretty invaluable but also a huge risk, whether they know it or not.
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>>52475503
Sounds radical. Doesn't sound like D&D at all, sounds like steampunk. Still cool though.
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>>52475479
we can play on roll20
our chars can be bf/gf
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Is Arcana Cleric the best option for a SAD melee Cleric or is Nature worth a look?
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>>52475490
Its a shame we don't have that negative exp gain stuff like in 3.5, but that wasn't really fun to deal with anyway.

I dunno.

>>52475523
I'm hoping the group is the Arcane Brotherhood, so they'll probably know what it is
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>>52475545
why's he sad
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>>52475527
>implying DnD is a specific setting
>implying DnD isn't a set of homebrew rules for d20 Modern that is sold for a profit that can be adapted to any setting or style
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>>52475479
Don't worry anon. Every dry spell ends. We just had a 2-month long period of "life intervenes", and finally ended it on one of our best sessions ever just a few days ago.

Have faith!
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>>52475556
Because he isn't a wizard
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>>52475556
Because his parents made him take Magic Initiate for shillelagh even though he didn't want to.
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>>52475527
>D&D is a genre
what am i reading
there are multiple D&D settings with tech levels beyond this; Eberron, Mystara, Planescape, Spelljammer
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>>52475545
Why would you want to be a depressing, emo character?
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>>52475549
>>52475523
Also, the MM doesn't say that Githyanki WARRIORS wield silver greatswords. Only the Knights do apparently, but both do psychic damage. Knights also only seem to have the astral voodoo on their blades
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>>52475570
We're playing out real life selves in game ;__;
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>>52475406
More or less. Basically, you don't want to be a net liability when you have something fairly solid like dragon sorcerers to compare yourself to.

From a strictly balance perspective, I think you have two options. One, dilute the table so you have less chance at harming the party. Or Two, you can nerf the negative effects so that they're less disastrous. Stuff like random haste and slow or random polymorph have a very decent chance of absolutely fucking the party.
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>>52475563
>roll20 game
>one player has been out of town for two months
>still shows up every day on voice chat, hangs out for hours
>streams video
>plays games
>obviously has a capable tablet, laptop, or computer with him
>can't sit down for a D&D session though because he's "not at home"
i
what
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>>52475583
this would be me lol
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>>52475256
Iirc spiritual guardians already gives you the choice of radiant or necrotic damage (based on your alignnent, but eh)
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>>52475567
Okay friendo :^)
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>>52475597
Sounds like he actually doesn't want to play, but he still wants to hang out.
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Does anyone have a copy of the Codex: Unearthed Arcana?

(The compilation of Unearthed Arcanas) I

I know it was taken down.
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>>52475637
right here
>points at pecker
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>>52475637
I think somebody mentioned it was added to the mega? I could just be making shit up.
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>>52475615
>Hyperborea
>Lankhmar
>Barsoom
>Goblin King
>standard medieval fantasy
loving every laugh
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>>52475671
Oh I'm sorry, are we playing 1st edition?
No, we're not?
Weird how that works.
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>>52475637
i have it
what do you want to trade for it
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>>52475690
>everyone's playing Forgotten Realms but all the non-medieval technology present in it courtesy of gnomes and spelljammers don't exist
Whew, lad.
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What're the biggest memes of 5e?
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>>52475722
Not everyone is playing Forgotten Realms, and spelljammers LITERALLY do not exist in this edition.
I'm sorry that you're living in the past anon, but D&D is medieval fantasy. Why don't you play an older edition if you want an adventure with interdimensional yellow-skinned astral gunslingers riding around in a space boat, you special snowflake.
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>>52475700
Uh a "Thank You"?
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>>52475781
not good enough
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>>52475767
greenflame
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>>52475781
psst
i have it on good authority that other guy wants pictures of cute anime girls
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>>52475700
FUCK YOU, TRADE BOY

>>52475637
It's a download only, shit's stupid
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_e-BoZb5YOhbm0yMmhXRkZCNUU
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>>52475637
no idea if this is the one you want, but it's the one i have.
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>>52475799
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Made a human wild sorcerer. Pretty much fucking useless and I couldn't be having any less fun since I didn't powergame with race or class setup.

How do I get him killed without the DM realizing it's not on purpose?
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>>52475819
>"Hey, friend, I'm having a really shitty time with this character. I'd like to retire them in some way and make a new one."
Done.
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>>52475819
Just tell the DM you hate your character and have him die and introduce your new one. It's about having some fun after all. I recommend playing a cool human rogue named Snake.
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>>52475819
Talk to DM that you are not having fun like a reasonable person.

That or spam wild surge until you fireball yourself.
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>>52475819
Talk to your DM, air your grievances, and see if he'll let you reroll, or work with you to kill him off.

Otherwise, just think of what you wouldn't want to do in combat as a squishy mage, and then do exactly that.
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>>52475819
Do something immensely stupid but possible, like run into a burning building to save something or someone, but die on the way. You'll be known as the idiot who did that, but that's all.

Or, you know, just talk to your DM.
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>mfw I get a crit
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>>52475767
Nuclear druid
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>>52475767
Mystics
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>>52475857

>mfw i get crit twice in a row, get an infected wound, and our artificer rolls a 1 when trying to make a potion to fix it
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Can someone explain the combat system to me? How the fuck do spells that give me an effect "until the end of your turn" work if casting the spell uses my turn?
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>>52475894
What spell is it?
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>>52475837
>>52475839
>>52475844
>>52475845
Unfortunately we put a lot of effort into our backstories and it's kind of a character-driven campaign. So saying "I want to remove this guy because I don't like him" would kind of shit on all the personal content he's worked on for me.
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>>52475914
I've seen several.
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>>52475917
Then ask him if he can alter the forthcoming content to allow a natural character exit.
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>>52475857
>mfw mfw
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>>52475919
Give me some and I can name their purpose and use them in examples.
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>>52475767
Halberds, tridents, padded armour, witch bolt, savage attacker, bags of rats and 4 elements monks
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>>52475969
>witch bolt
>bags of rats
???
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>>52475767
GWM
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>>52475992
Witch Bolt sounds amazing up until you realize keeping it up is a waste of turn.
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>>52475992
>witch bolt
Witch bolt is hot garbage, but some people try to argue that it's a good/great/the greatest spell

>bags of rats
5e lacks the ruling that to gain benefits from slaying living things, the creature slayed must be at least a threat. In 4e, this was explained as "your warlock can't just carry around a bag of rats and smack them with a stick to get healing surges"
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>>52475767
>rangers
>viable
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Trying to make a Kenku Cleric, yet have no idea where to go with it. It needs to be 3rd lvl and have been trying to build him around "being able to find stuff really good." But that went in the shitter after being reminded Clerics and Kenku do not get access to Perception or Investigation as a skill. So I thought about making him Knowledge Domain and make him more based around being "less deceitful" and more "reading people better." Decided on STR 10, 14 DEX, 10 Con, 15 INT, 16 WIS, and -9 CON (I know, but as I said he is not going to be the deceiving type.)

What should I do guys? The idea for this dude is to be a super weird scruffy bird guy that prays to eggs and tries to balance healing spells with combat and utility spells. Going Trickery just seems really meta.
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>>52475992
Witch bolt is the worst spell.

Bag of rats activate any "when you kill a creature" effect like.
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>>52475992
Every new player I've had come along to play a spellcaster has seen witch bolt and thought it was OP, taken it, and then found out it sucks (one even wasted it on the shambling mound in death house)
The best part is that it has some scaling with spell level, but ONLY ON THE INITIAL DAMAGE
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>>52476054
How is Witch Bolt the WORST spell?
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>>52476053
Custimized Background
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>>52475767
Heat Metal
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>>52476078
Don't think that's allowed in the group I am in.
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Playing a Human Soul Knife in my next game. I'm stuck between taking Medium Armour Master or Mobile.
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>>52476080
Heat metal + arrowhead is unstoppable, unless your elf sucks
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>>52476093
It's base rules, reread the background section and then show your DM
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>>52476067
Why wouldn't it be the worst spell? It eat up your action and concentration every round and do worst damage than a light crossbow.
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>>52476054

Does adding your CHA modifier to dmg as a 6th level lightning dragon sorcerer make witch bolt worth while? with 18 CHA you've got 5-16 dmg per turn while only using a single spell slot until the target dies or your concentration is broken.
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>>52476067
Takes up your concentration and action for every round for a small amount of damage that is outclassed by just using a cantrip most of the time. It's suggested for warlocks, and one could argue that it's alright for them in the early game as it does sustained damage for one spell slot, but EB is almost as good and costs nothing to use - and since WB is concentration, you can't use it with hex.
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>>52476093
Like >>52476118 said. Customized background is more legit than variant rule like feat.
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>>52476118
Thanks, however I just remembered Far Traveler from SCAG and that seems like a fine fit too with perception and Insight.
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>>52475767
Oathbreaker
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>>52476121
No. Your cantrip would still do more damage. Also in most case you are the one who is screw by witch bolt since you can't use your action to do anything else (like escape from grapple or disengage)

The spell can also be easily be broken by just simply walking.
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>>52476054
Warlocks have a way to make it good. I forgot how though.

Worst spell is Stoneskin. Instead of removing it, they killed it.
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>>52476133
This. PHB 125. Customizing backgrounds is a core rule.
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>>52476174
>your cantrip would still do more damage

Which cantrip? Only lightning cantrip for sorcerer as far as I recall is shocking grasp which does 1d8, and it's melee range so it's only advantage is the fact that it removes the target's ability to take reaction actions until next turn so you can walk away.
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>>52476228
>>52476174

wait nevermind you get an extra 1d8 at lvl 5 so it is more damaging unless you use a higher lvl spell slot for witch bolt
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What custom Backgrounds have you made/seen in a game?
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>>52476228
Or you could take either cold or fire for a Dragon Sorcerer. If you want Lightning then Storm is better.
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witch bolt should be an action to cast and a bonus action to maintain
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>>52476228
If you specifically want lightning, your only other option is lightning lure, as far as I know. But honestly, just grab firebolt or ask your DM if you can research a lightning version of it.

>>52476245
Technically, only the initial damage of witch bolt scales, so it's still overall less damage.
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>>52476245
Even at higher levels the per-turn damage doesn't increase, only the initial, as >>52476057 shouted
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>>52476228
At level 5, it's 2d8+CHA
Actually even firebolt at level 5 would do more damage 2d10 > 1d12+4
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>>52476188
Yup. Backgrounds are an elaborate way of providing two skill proficiencies, either a tool proficiency or language, and a "feature" that rarely comes up and really ends up just being a shortcut. Courtiers won't have to learn who's who in a noble party. Guild Artisans have "free" housing and a way to find the best people they need. Nobles basically have a constant high intimidation/persuasion check on city dwellers.

Work with your DM to make a fair background.
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>>52476255
But then your apprentice wouldn't get an opening to toss your sheevy ass into the reactor core.
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>>52476248
I made a prostitute background.
I'm one of those deviants who bought the BoEF when 3.5 was a thing and sort-of enjoyed it.
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>>52476276

Charisma modifier isn't added until lvl 6
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Is there a better build for a lightning based mage than Theurge (Tempest)?
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>>52476298
Shame, anon. SHAME!

Pleased to meet you. So did I.
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>>52476093
Then choose Cleric proficiency that overlap with your background proficiency.

You are allow to relocate your background proficiency to something else if you already have it from another source.
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>>52476310
> implying theurge wouldn't be ban
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>>52476188
And really why wouldn't it be

>>52476248
A dude tweaked Entertainer/Gladiator into more of a pro-wrestler thing. So kind of like that but with Charlatan stuff. He was a Rogue
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It's a wired moment when you combine spellpoints and sorcery points and realise you can do 6d8+12 damage for 2 Sorcery points... And you have 38.
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>not just asking your players what their character did before they joined the party and assigning them two skills to be proficient in

Backgrounds should also give one skill expertise.
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>>52476248
None because that's stupid shit. Having to write out a paragraph of backstory is already awful enough. Anything else is unacceptably autistic.

When I GM, if someone tries to bring that shit to the table, they are immediately and permanently dismissed.
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>>52476368
Sorry 6d10+12 for 3 points.
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>>52474758
more wizard archetypes
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>>52476361
>A dude tweaked Entertainer/Gladiator into more of a pro-wrestler thing. So kind of like that but with Charlatan stuff. He was a Rogue
But anon, that implies Pro Wrestling is fake!
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>>52476379
I've thought about doing this with alignments and stuff for a long campaign, like give them some moral/personality questions and stuff for their PCs instead of just "fill out sheet hurr." Something like a background check/resume thing might be good to tack on as well.
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>>52476386
Just asking, since I can't really think of anything not basically already covered in the PHB.

Also, you're a salty cunt.
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>>52476485
IRL Gladiators were basically pro wrestlers. They would beat the shit out of each other, but it was all scripted and they wouldn't kill each other. They even had sponsorships and endorsements.
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>>52476512
>The Joke
>
>
>
>
>
>Your head
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>>52476485
He was pretty good at convincing people it was real. I believed it. We met a thief who spoke in cant and the dude recognized it as code because he knew carny talk.
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>>52476510
Get fucked, snowflake.
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>>52476549
(you)
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>>52476574
Nah, I don't want (You)s from blue haired trannies.
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>>52476585
baby
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Do we think there'll be an early release for an April fool UA today, or no?
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>>52476386
Of all things in 5e, backgrounds are the most homebrewable and the easiest to homebrew I don't understand why you wouldn't allow it.
For example there's no doctor background in the PHB. If someone wanted to make a character who was a doctor or nurse or some kind of medicine person before they decided to become an adventurer, why the hell wouldn't you allow it. In fact, if you read the backgrounds chapter of the PHB, it explicitly tells you to make up your own background if you want to make a character who doesn't come from any of the backgrounds listed. It's just common sense that not every single PC you ever play with would come from one of the 20 or so backgrounds listed in the PHB.
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>>52476602
durr
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>>52476667
If someone suggested plague doctor I'd be considerably perturbed.
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>>52476386
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>>52476667
in fact now that I look at the list from the PHB, there isn't even a farmer background. I mean, that's one of the most common lifestyles in human history. There's also no option for fishermen or artists(except entertainer, sort of), or blacksmiths (possibly guild artisan, but that's not very specific)

Yeah the players are definitely intended to fill in the blanks I think
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>>52476758
The playtest had a commoner and and artisan backgrounds. Just use those
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>>52476386
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>>52476119
>light crossbow
>1d8+dex
>witch bolt
>1d12
I don't understand
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>>52475917
You couldn't have told your players the backstory yet, right?

If not, take your backstory and personality and PUT IT ON ANOTHER CHARACTER
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Can I get my ape beast companion decked out in some armor?
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>>52476796
Let's say you have a 14 dex

1d8+dex has an average of 6.5

Witch bolt also has an average of 6.5

Witch bolt costs a spell and is more swingy it could do 1-12 damage. Meanwhile the Crossbow does between 3-11 damage.
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>>52476776
What about miners, lumberjacks, potters, and textile workers
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>>52476806

How come some of these lores are hopelessly narrow (basically anything that tells you to choose a subcategory), while other lores are actually adventuring-relevant, like magical lore and planar lore?
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>>52476103
>action to cast
>convince DM that you're not in "contact" with arrowhead
>convince DM that it doesn't burn up the shaft
>don't get hit
>bonus action to maintain
>action to shoot arrow
>have to hit
>bonus action to keep doing damage after
Seems not so economical. Guess that's why it's a meme.
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>>52476844
just playtest stuff
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>>52476854
The arrowhead idea's so stupid. Every single character's going to have metal on their person anyway. Belt buckles, jewelry, armour, latches and etc.

Most brutal one I ever saw was a BBEG who was specifically called out to have a metal eye...
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>>52476844
Yeah pal I guarantee the number of DMs that that are gonna do a bunch of mindfuck plane hopping are considerably smaller than the DMs who are going to ask you something like "well why don't you roll to see if you can recognize the artwork/craftsmanship" here and there.
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>>52476832
I suppose my warlock player is skewing my perspective, when he automatically casts it at 3rd level. It's more potential damage than eldritch blast and he only has to expend one spell slot for it to just keep zapping until the big bad guy is dead.
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>>52476928
He also can't do anything else while it's casting.
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Here is my Kenku Cleric. What I got done so far at least. Took the Far Traveler background and just switched out the skills for perception and investigation. Called it "Seeker" though cause he is basically traveling the land in search of a thing he saw in a vision, yet has no clue what it is or where it is even. Planning on getting Observant at lvl 4. This will be first time playing a Cleric
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>>52476884
Yeah it's already an instant meme because it has an insane amount of utility, but idiots like "i am cast on wepon????" make it even more memey than it already is.
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>>52475426
Kill yourself.
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>>52476884
Sounds painful. If one of my players started being cheesy with heat metal, asking about earrings and shit, I'd have the items do different size dice in damage depending on the size of the object- d4 for a ring, d6 for a belt or something, I'd let armor and weapons stay d8 (because the creature could easily drop the weapon, might as well get that damage in while you can, and the armor is encompassing on the body). Metal eye I'd probably say us d8 as well, due to the sensitive location.
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>>52476956
>10 Con
>15 Int
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>>52476915
Planar lore covers basically anything to do with celestials, fiends, elementals, fey, aberrations...
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>>52476928
If he's casting it at third level EB should be doing way more

2d10+8 damage a round from Agonising Blast.

Witch bolt does 3d12 then 1d12 each round after, eats Concentration and uses a spellslot.

You could instead use that Spellslot on Hex for an hour of 2d10+2d6+8 damage for an average of 26.

Witch bolt does an average of 21.5 one round and 6.5 the rest, lasts on one creature and if you take a hit during that time you'll likely loose the spell.

>>52476976
Oh yeah that's a fair ruling. That eye was just fucking devastating because the guy was a Cleric and couldn't hold Concentration with a 4th level Heat Metal in his head.
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>>52476928
>>52476947
On top of that he probably only has two spell slots. His other slot is most likely used for Hex.

Witch Bolt sucks.
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>>52476990
Fits the char. He is not meant to be a fighter, he focuses more on knowledge based shit.
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>>52476947
Yep, that's a hindrance other concentration spells don't have based on what I remember without opening up the book again.
It's only recently turned into a thing he likes to do, next encounter he tries to witch bolt there will be other factors present that will make him not want to just keep zapping.
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>>52476915
Oh boy, I can't wait for my Hobbyist Lore (dragonchess) or Hobbyist Lore (Cormyrian drama) to be as useful in adventuring as the other dude's Magical Lore and [Natural/Planar] Lore!
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>>52476928
Using his action for 1d12 damage a round is worse then EB's 2d10. Without invocations or anything. It's so shit.
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>>52476956
The kenku in this episode is funny
http://geeklyinc.com/drunks-and-dragons-episode-49-the-great-heist/

15 minutes in or so
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>>52477023
Godd! Wouldn't it be fun to meet interesting people in town? They could get you deals on stuff, get you connected with the socialites. Better yet, they could maybe spill some interesting information on the movements of valuable items or persons that your party could intercept or even assist, eh?
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>>52477039
>Drunks and Dragons
Any good?
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>>52476996
>>52476999
He's only level 7, so he's still sitting on 2 blasts unless there's an invocation that adds another that I'm not thinking of. He definitely has agonizing blast. Surprisingly though, I don't think I've seen him use hex at all. But like I said, I let him have fun as Palpatine and now the game is gonna switch up a bit. Less being accosted by giant beasts in the wild and more extended dungeon crawling, and he's gonna miss those slots if he uses them all for bolting.
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>>52476928
Let's look at a 5th level warlock with 18 CHA using EB (w/ agonizing blast) versus Witch Bolt.

Witch Bolt will do 3d12 (avg. 19.5 damage) on the first turn, followed by 1d12 (avg. 6.5 damage) each subsequent turn. Concentration is used in this case.

EB+AB will be doing 2d10 + 8 (avg. 19 damage) every single turn. Concentration is not used in this case.

By the second turn the warlock would be doing more damage just EBing, would not have used a single spell slot, and his concentration would be free.
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>>52477080
You do understand Witch Bolt only scales to 3d12 on the first attack right? So it's 3d12 (19.5) then 1d12 (6.5) each other round. EB does 2d10+8 (19) from Agonising Blast every round for no slot. I don't understand how he thinks it's any good, it's literally a worse choice then EB in every single situation.
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>>52477008
I guess, you're going to be fragile and suck at concentration though
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>>52477023
Well if your game doesn't end up involving planes and all that they could end up being just as useful as each other. In fact, the chess hobbyist might get provided a session themed around one night in Bangkok for fun, but it's harder to accommodate the planar historian in a similar fashion.
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Thinking of playing a Wood-Elf Forge Cleric. Should I have a high Dexterity and Archer everything while throwing out buff spells or if I should have 14 Dex and wade in to Spirit Guardians everything?
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>>52477142
go play an mmo nerd...
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>>52477076
yes
it's mainly 4e tho
but the players are funny
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>>52477119
he's an idiot dm who was probably giving 3d12 every round
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>>52477142
That is true. But then again I am knowledge domain so I shouldn't be in the front of combat. Concentration is just a sacrifice I decided to make not sure how that will play out.
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>>52477188
I wish it scaled like that, Lightning Dragon Sorcerer's would be quite awesome with it.
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>>52477111
>>52477119
OK fellas, thank you, I understand how EB is generally better now. I don't think I knew the extra d12s only applied on the first round, I can't remember what hes been rolling on subsequent rounds. Maybe that's why he's been using it so much, or he might have been rolling it properly and just likes the image of shooting lightning. But I'm not gonna forbid him from casting it or anything, just because he's got better options.
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>>52477165
High dex = high AC, use shortswords and bows interchangeably, enjoy your versatility! Find your best role in your party!
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>>52477190
it's a dumb character for a dumb player
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>>52477172
>stats don't matter
Go back to your freeform ERP, faggot
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>>52477208
This is why I hate meta min/max builders
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>>52477232
Bullshit. Everyone minmaxes their cock to 8 inches in those. They all dump their subtlety and pretense stats too. NOT VIABLE MEARLS
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Are there any good Cleric buffs that don't require Concentration?
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>>52477257
Wearing armor.
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>>52477257
Not that I can think of.
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>>52476806
The fields of lore were a neat idea but kind of superfluous. Better to just have "your character would know that kind of thing" advice for a DM combined with skills from backgrounds like we have now to keep things simpler.
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>>52477257
Protection fighting style.
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>>52477257
Guiding bolt does damage and gives advantage, for an action. Blindness/deafness can blind an enemy (multiple ones with higher spell slots) which gives them disadvantage and attacks on it are with advantage if I'm remembering the blinded condition right. Uh... warding bonds gives some good benefits with no concentration, but has some expensive material components. What level are you looking at?
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>>52475806
>>52475799

Thanks to both of you. You are true bros.
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So if I have Spirit Guardians up and cast Sanctuary on myself what happens? I'm not technically making an attack or casting a spell that affects an enemy, because I cast it already.

Also the Light Clerics channel divinity doesn't make an attack nor is it a spell.
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>>52477257
Aid lasts 8 hours, always worth taking
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>>52477232
That stats matter is precisely why it's valuable to play with sub optimal stats..
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>>52477330
You can also wave axes and swords around your space randomly, you're not technically attacking anything, so it's fine. It's not your problem if monsters happen to be near your path as you walk.
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Ill be playing CoS soon but I have noidea for char. Not a paladin for sure. Any tips, ideas?
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I don't understand why a caster, especially one relying on buffs, would ever take 10 con. It's a terrible idea mechanically, and it doesn't make sense from a RP point of view. If he was an NPC who lived in a library and read all day and sipped tea it would make sense. But by simply being an adventurer/traveler whatever you would toughen up. I played an evoker up through level 17 on a long custom campaign and I was really needing that Resilient Con feat by the time I was level 12, and I only had a few concentration spells (mainly fly and bigby's hand). 15 9 14 10 16 12 or so for a cleric seems about perfect. If you want to be a super smart knowledge cleric I guess that's cool, but the clerics of Oghma were burly dudes known for wrestling. Seems kinda pointless when you will likely have a wizard or bard in the party who is smarter at History and Arcana than you anyways. Also why a kenku? Such an odd character.
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>>52477383
I'm just saying it calls out RAW for you to make an Attack or cast a spell that affects an enemy. Neither of those are attacks and you're not casting a spell that affects an enemy.

I could see the Channel Divinity taking it too far but the Spirit Guardians seem reasonable.
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>>52477400
Female Half Elf Valor Bard with a sweet rapier and a shield and maybe wears a romper??? i dunno about that last part
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>>52476884
>>52476957
What if you're fighting a druid?
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>>52477423
just forcecage that little fucker
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>>52477423
Forcecage his dick.
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>>52477330
RAW, you need to cast Spirit Guardians first, because it affects an enemy and Sanctuary breaks if you cast it.
>>52476080
FUCK Heat Metal. That shit is annoying.
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>>52477458
>FUCK Heat Metal. That shit is annoying.
gandalf used it
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>>52477400
Someone who's good natured. Maybe a cleric or a bard. It just should be someone who will contrast with the bleak nature of the setting (I doubt I'm spoiling anything) and make it stand out a bit more to you and the other players. That's my opinion at least.

>>52477409
You're just rationalizing here. There's no reason for any stat to be higher than any other. A stat should reflect your playstyle and who who want your character to be and that's it. You aren't playing a videogame where if you die, you lost/game over/reload checkpoint. You're playing a character and creating a story with them. That could be a rad story where you beat the fuck out of monsters in caves or an epic journey across the multiverse, or a quick localized story of typical people doing atypical things. You're a fag.
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>>52475777
Not 100% true, the Volo's section on Mind Flayers says they still have a few Nautili left, so they at least have some spelljammer like stuff.
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>>52477471
>You're a fag.
WHATS ONE GOT TO DO WITH THE OTHER PLAYBOY
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>Player wants to join table I host at FLGS.
>Already has a sheet, Human Fighter.
>Literally point buy 3 15's for str, dex, con and boosted str, con to 16.
>Everything else is left 8
>Picked the Solider background.
>Asked him about his char still, was he a great warrior but just anti-social and such?
>Nope
>Tells me he has played 5e before so I thought I may as well let him try. Tell him the party is mostly on the Good side and he immediately writes Chaotic Good on his sheet.
>Game starts.
>Meta game...
>Meta game for days...
>Doesn't role play at all he just keeps talking about numbers and telling players who to buff who to maximize the numbers.
>Literally have to stop the game as soon as he OOC tries to convince the party to attack this person they found because their necklace looked valuable and they could use it to buy better armor.
>Tell him we don't meta game at this table and try to play in character.
>Someone in the party speaks up telling the dude that he just seemed to want to do math the whole time and not play the game.
>Dude just leaves before immediately going to another table asking them if he can join. Watch him walk from table to table before he looks frustrated and leaves the store.
>Later that night other DM's tell me the dude asked them if they played for story or if they were playing for combat and gear.
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>>52477489
I don't know, rough man. What do you think it means?
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>>52477493
Why he would choose 5e for that kind of gaming as opposed to something like Diablo 2, I don't know. At least he removed himself and saved everyone the trouble.
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>>52477493
>confused 4e fag
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>>52477493
My soldier's stats were 14 16 14 10 12 10, seemed to make sense he would be strong and agile, and slightly more aware of his surroundings than the average job, but not as aware as say a druid or cleric. His int and cha would be average, or else why become a soldier? He was actually a pretty good character and I RP'd him as a quiet dude who took things pretty serious and had a drinking problem, which is why he's no longer a soldier. Seemed like his abilities made sense for his place in the world. Kenku's are gay btw
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>>52477493
Annoying, but not That Guy level in my opinion.
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>>52477493
what

>>52477531
yeah just weird
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What's the best class in 5e?
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>>52477543
Wizard.
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>>52477543
wiz
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>>52477543
Wizard.

My boy is Mastermind Rogue though
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>>52477543
Lore Wizard or whatever it's called. Lmao every spell spontaneously xD
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>>52477409
>I don't understand why a caster, especially one relying on buffs, would ever take 10 con.

You don't just need Con. You can negate it with good AC an also positioning for the most part.

>But by simply being an adventurer/traveler whatever you would toughen up.

10 is the base min for your above average joe.

>15 9 14 10 16 12

So basically play the Default Cleric stats just so you can be optimized for the whole game.

> but the clerics of Oghma were burly dudes known for wrestling.

He is not a cleric of Oghma

>Seems kinda pointless when you will likely have a wizard or bard in the party who is smarter at History and Arcana than you anyways.

Again, lets just make chars that are default for a class.

>Also why a kenku? Such an odd character.

Cause Kenku get +1 to Wisdom and they seem fun.
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Players during Storm King Thunder's Campaign:
>Holy fuck Fire Giants are hard

what do?
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>>52477578
>and they seem fun.
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>>52477579
Fire giants are meant to be hard. Players should probably remove themselves from Fire giants.
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>>52477591
>I make boring characters because I play for stats.
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>>52477607
YOU DON'T KNOW ME PLAYBOY
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>>52477618
I do, I am watching you right now.
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http://vocaroo.com/i/s0SoGwfuF60E
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Why is That Guy always a ranger?
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>>52477607
>>52477578
You remind me of the guy from last night who was autistic screeching because welding an antimagic ring to the barrel of a musket doesn't make it shoot cannonballs.
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>>52477637
>implying he's not always a Warlock
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>>52477632
Stat him.
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>>52477637
>>52477658
Nah, my That Guy was a Wizard. But I have another guy lining up to be a cooperative That Guy who IS a Warlock.
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>>52477639
I don't see the connection.
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>>52477469
That powergaming fucker
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>>52477639
>>52477683
I don't either.
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>>52477637
Munchkin that guy
>wizard
>blatantly wrong home brew
Wacky, disregarding class roles/abilities, or fetish that guy
>cleric
>warlock
Edgy lone wolf that guy
>rogue
>warlock
Screws over rest of party that guy
>rogue
>wizard
Disregard for rules/not playing that guy
>fighter
>cleric
What's missing?
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"That Guy" for me was the dude that kept leaning in against and smelling the girl that joined our group and kept trying to look down her shirt. When we brought it up to him after he he made this creepy smile and kept trying to change the conversation to about how hot she was. The DM told him later that night he wasn't welcome back and a year ago he appeared in the towns news for sexual assault to a minor.
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what are Aasimar women like as lovers/wives?
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>>52477742
They only fuck in missionary position and they seem really hesitant when doing it cause they are too pure.
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>>52477742
DON'T ASK THAT
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Would you allow this as a character for your group? The MIDI thing is just fluff to allow for 8-bit songs at the table and such, instead of generic battle music.
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>>52477683
>>52477689
"BUT MY RETARDED SHIT IS FINE BECAUSE IT'S FUN FOR ME AND NOBODY ELSE"
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I don't see bombs in the items list. How do I make bombs? Can I turn goodberries into bombs?
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>>52477759
>Would you allow this as a character for your group?

No, because my group doesn't roll for stats they point buy.
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>>52477759
He needs a flute
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>>52477759
wtf every character posted here is dumb
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>>52477759
>language: deep
Ah, the age-old conundrum of having an extra language slot to fill and not even the DM knows what languages will come up in-game.
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>>52477759
No, but I don't use rolling, have Warforged in the setting without a good background for it and don't like the MIDI thing.

If you used point but, gave me a background on why you're a golem with free will and removed the instrument I would.

All DM's are different though, so you'll have to ask one.
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Hey /5eg/ I just picked this up today cause my card shop forgot that this doesn't release for 3 more days, anyone else get an early copy?
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>>52477789
We've already got a .pdf scan m8
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>>52477769

>Accuses someone of autistic screeching.
>Proceeds to autistic screech.

Come on man, now you are just b8ing. Do you get so triggered when ever player doesn't pic default stats for their class?
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>>52477789
I sure did, a week ago in pdf form thanks to those good ol boys in the 5eg
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>>52477793
>>52477797
Aw nice, I'll have to grab that as well.
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>>52477802
I do think this is the quickest we've gotten a scan of anything actually. Like it was in there 2-3 days after people started receiving the earliest copies.
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>>52477632
Not this fucker again.
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>>52477816
I am always here with u my friend
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>>52477842
You're not my friend, guy.
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What's the best beast companion?
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>>52477873
doge
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>>52477856
I wish I had just one friend...
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>>52477735
neato
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>>52477742
What would a black Aasimar look like?
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>>52477929
Like the one in Volo's.
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>>52477400
As someone who's just started playing it a few weeks ago, a character that can deal magic damage seems essential. Not necessarily through spells, even access to magic weapons (Shillelagh or that bladepact warlock if you don't want to go paladin) goes a long way.

We are routinely running into large groups of enemies with lots of resistances. A number of those enemies will also regen every round.
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>>52477940
fuuuck I forgot to get Volo's Guide
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Playing a Aasimar (Protector), druid whose mother is most a forest spirit his father banged while he was adventuring as a ranger
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>>52478219
most likely
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>>52477929
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hey. I need advice. We are starting a new campaign and I always wanted to play a character that represents a noble knight. Plate armor and very interested in all the ideals of chivalry. Thing a french knight before the battle of Angicourt (before chivalry kinda died as a tradition). What is a good choice for this. I was thinking maybe a paladin but he seems a little weak. A fighter ? Purple Knight ? halp pls
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>>52478526
Anything with plate armor and LG alignment + Noble background.
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Which stat block would you use for a fighting-man-type hireling that'd be about as strong as a low-level party?
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>>52478555
*about as strong as a member of a low-level party
Use the bandit block or something? Anyone have a soldier or guard stat block they'd like to share?
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>>52478526
>Play it straight
Paladin, oath of devotion for dat bling, if you can swing it go with PAM, Sentinel, and be the knight that holds off the bridge.
>Templar Knight, tied all up with the occult
something Hexblade or Pact of the Blade Warlock? The Hexblade smites with a greatsword, that should work better than a flail or a mace
>Focus on courtly love, be a lover first, a fighter second
Valor Bard, multiclass to get more armor

and consider that dipping 1-3 levels in Fighter, (or maybe 2 levels in non-casting Ranger, for a fighting style and superiority dice) would be useful for all kinds of knight, if your group does multiclass
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>>52478555
Depends on how much you're paying them and what you want them to do.

Shit pay = Commoner but with a decent weapon and maybe proficiency (by "decent" I mean a fucking spear and a bag of pocket sand instead of a dagger and a diaper)
Okay pay = Guard
Good pay = Scout

If you want the person they hired to be a conman or backstabber/shithead then refluff and re-equip the Noble but keep the stats.
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>>52475145
The spell fails. Read da book.
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>>52475857
>mfw when I multi-crit
>as the DM
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>>52475777
>and spelljammers LITERALLY do not exist in this edition.

You are fake news
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>>52475777
DMG pp. 9
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>>52478555
A non vhuman, champion fighter.
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>>52478555
>>52478566
The fucking Monster Manual has a section on NPC's, dipshits
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>>52478822
that'd be probably why he asks which stat block YOU would use, you fucking mischling
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>>52478836
Then why would he ASK for a STATBLOCK which is AVAILABLE

cockmonger
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>>52477206
And you do know that walking out of range kill the spell right?
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>>52478848
Read the post, you fucking zipperhead. He doesn't ask for one, he asks which the audience would use.
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>>52474971
Apart from the obligatory >alignment system, that's actually pretty interesting. How much did you add or remove for different acts? Can you give examples?
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>>52478526
>I was thinking maybe a paladin but he seems a little weak.
Saladin pls go
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>>52478526
Paladins are pretty strong, yo. Their only weakness is that you'll probably want to MC out of them after 11th.
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>>52478858
>anyone have a guard statblock
just die already
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I'm thinking about rolling with a Pysonic what are some good awakened disciplines?
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>>52475767
Sovereign glue.
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>>52478780
>Mfw did that with a pack of goblins
nearly wiped the party because they were low level and rolling horribly.
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>>52475767
Wholelings and the short longbow.
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>>52475767
Invisible Fire Elementals not provoking attacks of Opportunity
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>>52476053
Knowledge domain has all them seeking spells. Scrying, arcane eye, divination, the business.

For skill checks just swap the ones from your background it's literally what it's there for.
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>>52479277
Invisible light-emitting things is a weird concept.
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How do you deal with a fighter that can have 30 AC?

Nothing but hold person?
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>>52479302
Not all light is in the visible spectrum.
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>>52479307
Heat Metal.
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>>52479315
Does the dropping part work on magic armour/weapons?
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>>52479367
No reason it shouldn't, RAW.
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>>52479367
>>52479307
Enjoy trying to quickly doff armor that takes more than 10 rounds to drop on a 10 round duration spell.

Actually, I don't know why uber high AC fighter types are things people give a shit about in these parts. There are at least 7 different defenses, AC is just one of them, and dex is just as important of a way to avoid damage as AC, while failed wis saves, not damage, are in most campaigns the most likely way for a PC to be knocked out of a fight.
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>>52479501
So what about a paladin with 30AC and wis save proficiency and aura of protection?
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>>52479506
The dude has sacrificed every iota of functionality to avoid being hit, which is fine. After a monster realizes he is unhittable, go on to the next target.

That's the thing about AC: if a PC focuses on getting a huge armor class, it still can't "break the game" or whatever, it just means one person in the party is very difficult to harm and will rarely be attacked.
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What school would a lizardfolk wizard noble named Girard choose?

I'm leaning towards illusion
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>>52479543
Correct. Everything you have is a resource to used, and character that is not being attacked - or is being attacked but never hit, is not using their HP and at worst not even their AC either.
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>>52479501
Attack the mage instead.
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What's his Intelligence Save? +5? Feeblemind that fucker with a 19 DC save and if he success just fly and Magic Missile. I can't imagine a 30AC max Charisma Paladin has many ranged options.

Also if Feeblemind hits he becomes a fucking sack of useless saves.

Also Anti-Magic.
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>>52479558
>King Gizzard, the Lizard Wizard

You cheeky cunt
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>>52479558
Abjurer and Illusion seem thematic.

The idea of a Lizard Evoker who nukes everything he considers a threat is cool.

And an Enchanter would be plain old funny.
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>>52475892
>make oatmeal every morning
>there's a 5% chance i fuck it up non-obviously and ingest poison
critical failures are a mistake
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>>52479543
how does a paladin get 30ac?
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>>52477023
>the party encounters a dragon who is mindcontrolling the entire kingdom of Cormyr into reenacting period pieces and the only way to stop him is to give him a more entertaining diversion--dragonchess--and win, lest he add you as pawns in his live-action show
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>>52479307
Attacks that target saves, duh.
>here's a Reflex save
>oh, you have Shield Master? here's some Wis saves
>oh, you took Resilient: Wis? here's some Int and Cha saves
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>>52479661
+3 plate (21), +3 shield (so 26), warforged, defense style, and shield of faith

like I said, he sacrifices almost everything for personal defense, making himself very shitty
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>>52479695
Then what's the point of the high AC?
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>>52479715
Bragging rights.
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>>52479715
invulnerability versus martials
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>>52479661
Or an EK with shield and +3
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>>52479506
They become Lalatina, only useful for bully. Just ignore them in combat, they will enjoy it.
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>>52479715
Nothing. Masturbating on /tg/, using it as an excuse to say FIFTH EDITION IS SHIT!!!!, and generally being both selfish and useless to your party.
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