Were there any great wars between Skaven and lizardmen?

>>52471957
Yeah, Clan Pestilens did a number on them.

>>52471957
>ELVES FUCKING GTFO OF MY JUNGLE REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>52472028
What about vice versa?

>>52472107
Yeah, after Pestilens did a number on them, Sotek ate all the rats.

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>>52472107
See image

>>52472048
>Tell them to fuck off and wait our call
>They don't

>>52471957
There was the time Skaven blew up the moon and showered Lustria with giant chunks of warpstone, destroying the continent.

>>52473604
>Still won since kroak decided being dead was gay as fuck and shielded the world, nuking lustria but still having all the lizards fuck off on the flying pyramids, technically winning end times
>It took a fucking moon to kill kroak again
Get fucked rat shits even in dead we win.

>>52473766
What's more, the Slann are the only actual survivors from the Old World besides gods.

>>52472381
hehe

It's more like the Skaven trying to fight the Lizardmen and getting BTFO, then coming back later to try again, for centuries.

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>mfw when the new jungle maps will mean that I will have to constantly micro units as they dive in and out of LOS.

>>52473874
Haha, no. Enjoy more beast paths.

>>52471957
They're one of the biggest rivalries in the settings.

Basically the Skaven come in and fuck shit up then get entirely beaten back at the end, over and over, until the end times they try to blow up the moon and rain shards down on Lustria except they mostly kill their own men with them while the lizardmen fuck off into space with giant chunks of lustria still intact and now floating above the realm of azure in AoS.

>>52472107
In Age of Sigmar, encountering Seraphon causes Skaven to have visions of nightmare jungles filled with dinosaurs and the sounds of drums as their people are sacrificed and their hearts offered to the gods. Lizardmen fucked up Skaven so hard, they're practically mythological horrors to them.

>>52474746
>First thing ghost-kroak does after the wold gets AoS'd is kill demonfucking shits

>>52471957
Skaven dominated them during the End Times, killing them all or forcing them to flee into space via moonfall.
All of the actual Lizardmen would then go on to die in space, leaving only the Slann alive.

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>>52471957
There was one, in November 2016

Stealth TW:WH2 thread?
Anyone have the webms of the trailer?

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>>52473874
>jungles
>gyrocopters
>flamethrowers and gunpowder
>"I ain't no Runelord's Son" starts playing.

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>>52474746

>skaven commited genocide on the slann
>on their home ground
>lizardmen did not even manage to kill clan Pestilens

>>52471957
Is this from the vidja game? I really didn't want to buy it (fuck DLC Chaos), but if they added lizardmen I might cave.

>>52478340
are you from 2015?

>>52478353
I stopped caring about Total Warhammer for the most part.

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>>52471957
>Were there any great wars between Skaven and lizardmen?
while the humans were uniting under sigmar in what will be considered year 0 the lizardmen were having a war with the skaven so big they ended up awakening a new god of racial hatred

so yes, if anything skaven have been the main faction lizardmen have had battle against after the great wars with daemons at the start of the timeline

>malikath trapped between teclis and mazdamundi

Poor guy

How did the fucking lizardmen even find their way to the AOS setting? Didn't reality itself get destroyed and remade?

They just sort of showed up.

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>>52473874
>mfw remembering the Americas campaign of Medieval 2
>had to just give up on Mayans after a couple of battles because I literally could not see shit through the trees

When I'm stuck in a heavily forested Empire map, I can't see shit. If Lustria is even half of that, I'll never end up going there.

>>52478466

>poorlittledarkelf.webm

>>52478279
>This is what skavencucks actually think
Here is what happened
>Rat shits need a whole moon
>Still get BTFO by a fucking dead frog
>Which nukes all skaven
>All lizardmen survive inspace
And that's all there about it.

>>52471957
Are you trolling or did you just discover the setting this morning? It's one of the biggest conflicts in the setting. Skaven hated the lizards so much that they dropped a moon on them.

>>52478518
stick near the coasts.

If you think the empire is bad in total warhammer, don't Play Rage of the Dark Gods/Call of Warhammer. The generated maps are fucking petrifying.

>want to fight beastmen pooping in muh reich.
>attack them.

>everyone of them is hidden except the general.

life is suffering as an empire player.

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>>52478578
>Thinking a moon can kill the old ones servants
That's where you're wrong ratshit.

>>52473776
How about the other way around? ALL Skaven survived by turning Skavenblight into a giant mothership.

>>52472118
More like 10-15% Pestilence left behind as a distraction while the rest evacuated to the Southlands. Where they proceeded to fuck up much less OP Lizardmen.

>>52478503

Chaos isn't actually as all-powerful and all-knowing as Chaosfags would have you believe.

>>52478503
they made magic space ships and told chaos to go fuck itself

>>52478361
What is that from?

>>52478648
>>52478659

You retarded pieces of shit. Couldn't you answer him like a human being using the lore. Both you must KYS.

>>52478503
No, you asshole. The planet was just destroyed. It's literally in the ending of WHFB and intro of AOS. What's wrong with you. It's been confirmed decades ago that the Old World was just a planet in a giant universe and Chaos was invading it among others.

The Lizardmen fled into space. The Lizardmen were so stupid they didn't pack supplies or any life support systems since on the journey ALL the Lizardmen but the Slaan died.

>>52478659
It came to to surprise to anyone that Slaanesh actually listened.

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>>52478678
Total War Warhammer 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzgpPM_UA9E

>carnac is STILL autistically screeching about lizards
I guess I'm not surprised

>>52478560

>nukes all skaven
>when not even a third of a single major clan is killed
>lizardmen players couldn't use slann's in the campaign due to all of them being killed either by the moon-nuke or by skaven assassins

It's sad to be an npc faction, scaly-thing

Don't worry, maybe with Age™ Of™ Kidmar™ they'll give you the Staerborn™ Starseraph™ ! Only 80 bucks for 5 models!

>>52478685
Furthermore, the Wind of Magic fled into space as well and manifested into the Mortal Realms. Reality wasn't "remade" the surviving elements of the Old World just fled from the onslaught of Chaos into part of the universe, for a time, out of Chaos's notice.

The Slaan spent countless ages in their ships alone stewing in their despair and grief. Dracthoian, aka Dragon Bro, eventually found their ships and in curiosity flew to them. The Slaan SADNESS was so intense that the noble SPESS dragon was bombarded with images of the fate of the Old World. Dragon Bro felt SAD at what happened to that world and the ordeal of these beings. So SAD that he shed tears of stars that the Slaan used to navigate their way to the Mortal Realms landing in Azyr the Realm of Heaven.

On the way and while there the Slaan were infused with the power of Azyr which they used to being back their Lizardmen servants in form of memories and dreams given life by the power of the heavens. Thus were power the Seraphon.

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>>52478707
Just don't mention Bel'akor.
That'll make him blow up even worse.
Oops.

>>52478707
I am screeching about you being a stupid cunt spread misinformation. Since when did a planet become universe/reality. Retarded as fuck. Get out.

>>52478719
I kinda like the metamyth aspect of the slann now.

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>>52478720
feels like just yesterday

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>>52478720
We already been through that dance but doesn't change the fact that Lizardmen are the jobbers of AoS.

>>52478708

But is it sadder than being a sidekick faction?

>>52478518
you should play first rome with Europa Barbarum mod.
THEN you can whine about forest battles

>>52478179
By the cleansing after Storm of Chaos I had two entire corps of flying motherfuckers for support of the main armies. The last battle involved me dropping huge amounts of gunpowder over wood elves. Of course they still fucked me in the ass cause they are a little broken.

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>>52478602
>filename
kek

>>52478752>that art
How the mighty have fallen.

>>52478752
Jesus Christ. What terrible Warhammer art.

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>>52478752
>Slann survive Fantasy
>revive the Lizardmen as Daemons of Order
>AoS has lizard angels made of starlight and lightning for blood who can whup on Chaos' best and brightest with nothing but dinos and rocks

>meanwhile Skaven get their boss to be a Chaos God but everyone hates him, he's not taken seriously even by chaos and they're still filthy inbred rats

Who really won Fantasy, I wonder?

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Man, the state of threads about this game on /v/ are atrocious.

>>52479278
Think of it this way.
warhammer fantasy is now popular enough that discussing it gets you called a shill on /v/

>>52479321
Yeah.
Fucking hilarious desu.

Honestly, I wonder what GW thinks about the popularity of Total Warhammer games.

>>52478752
Why is Arcanon made of farts?

FFS

the current state of warhammer lore is too stupid for me

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>>52478361

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>>52478720
oh the memeries

>>52479321
youll get called a shill for liking irrelevant indie games on /v/, /v/ is pure cancer.
Historical fags are probably the most pathetic gaming community ive ever seen, petulantly sperging about warhammer fans getting a game too all the while excusing bullshit copy and paste DLC for their own titles.
>>52479276
Nobody. We all lost.
>>52474746
Kind of like humans have genetic fear of sharks, i think this is realy cool, too bad everything else isnt.

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>>52479371
that skink cracks me up

>>52479276
Skaven got pretty new models, Lizardmen got nothing. Skaven won.

>>52478610
Skaven writing was pretty poor in End Times.

>In most previous conflicts fight against Chaos because destroying the planet you live on is stupid
>Your DAEMON leaders appear and say that we should help Chaos this time cause who cares they wont die, they're daemons
>Help Chaos win by destroying 75% of the civilisations on the planet
>Chaos dicks them over at every opportunity and just about wins in the end
>Daemon leaders pull your capital into the Warp
>Still get treated as second class citizens

Skaven had a good thing going and they ruined it for everyone including themselves

>>52479371
That's fucking perfect.

>>52479446
>Skaven had a good thing going and they ruined it for everyone including themselves
That's not poor writing, that's Skaven in a nutshell

>>52479331
it makes them money.
They use that money to buy another giant statue of a sigmarine.

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>>52478164

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>>52479574
>crackwhore elf waifu
>ywn nurse her through her withdrawal and fall in love with her.

ca are a talented bunch. that cgi is amazing...

>>52479574

Hmm, looks like they made them exactly as "they should be", less weirdo 80s metal babes, more into bloodlust frenzied and wild. Do approve.

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>>52479574
>that chin
>that nose
fuck em

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>>52479601
>tfw no as good depicted Eldar as this

The Sotek/Pestilens conflict is pretty huge in the lore yes.

>>52478578
>end times/AoS lore
kek

>>52478340
> 2017, still butthurt about the chaos dlc thing, which was free for anyone who bought the game anyway.

>mfw

Missing out a great game.

>>52479389

Not sure whats so odd about it, try taking a 20-30kg rock falling from 200m high and I'll ask whats left of your corpse if you think a sword hit would have hurt more.

>>52479602

So are we looking at another one of them Stealth T-Rex's from Jurrassic Park here?

I remember the Carnodon having a lot of abilities, I missed the part where it was a ninja.

>>52479667
it's more about it flanking so fast that you don't really have time to react than being a good ambusher

there's a short story in the 6th edition armybook depicting a similar scene

>>52479276
No one won. A setting is not a contest.

>>52479602

Whats wrong with the chin and nose? it fits the depiction of elves several arts.

If you want a chinless/noseless asian little girl looking elf, you wont really find it.

>>52479763
>Whats wrong with the chin and nose?
nothing

they just aren't pretty to me

>>52479778

Its ok for me, not my preference but thats just that one.

Also, several modders are changing faces to be 'more attractive', im sure those will be changed too to fit more normal concepts of beauty.

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>>52471957
>the slann has got a navel
>it doesn't have thin arms and fingers
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
it's still cool

>>52479763
not that guy but I was a little disappointed with Teclis' face. He's not benedict fucking cumberbatch and should look older than he does.

>>52479802

WITCH Elves are supposed to be horrible blood crazed hags

You waifu tards ruin everything because everything has to be sexually attractive to you despite the fluff.

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>>52479828
Drugged blood crazy bitches are exactly what turns me on.

>>52479843

THICK

>>52479828

That's only the case when Witch Elves haven't had their blood based face creams.

>>52478596
isn't that the state of the empire most of the time?

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>>52478707
Who is carnac?

>>52478578
Skaven hated the lizards so much that they dropped a moon on them.
I, not being that other anon, am new.
Not really into warhammer except anything I can play on steam. but this greatly peaks my interest. Please elaborate.

>>52479602
>fuck em
But thats the point, you're supposed to fuck em.

>>52478640
>10-15%
It was a quarter of their remaining forces.
And all the ones leading up until that point.

>>52472118
>Sotek ate all the rats.
There were special rules for Sotek's skink armies and they looked suspiciously similar to Tyranids

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>>52480435
Agreed.

>>52480510
>and they looked suspiciously similar to Tyranids
what the fuck are you talking about? I've got said armylist under my nose

nothing about them reminds of tyranids

>>52480325
it was authentic but a pain in the ass.
Minotaurs in Med2 are even more broken.

>>52478361
Lizardmen look so incredibly fucking stupid.

>>52480532
The one from White Dwarf ages ago with devouring swarms of snakes and reptiles?

>>52480351
A poster of such concentrated cosmic autism that his style is recognisable to anybody that's spent more than 15 mins in any one lore thread, despite not namefagging. Stylistic indicators are drastic overreactions, a persecution complex, and general paranoia. What really gives it away is when he gets particularly upset and calls people that don't share his interpretation "liars".

>>52479667
I think it's just a quick flank, but I also think it's implied to be magical.

The HE wizard dispels the fog, and then all of a sudden there's the lizardman army none of them noticed, with a Slaan behind it.

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>>52480598

They've never looked as good as in some of the artwork.

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>>52480435
Elf is not for Sexual!

>>52480636
chaos/skaven tard right-o?
I think I remember him
>NOOOO!!! LIZARDMEN DIDN'T KILL MUH BEL'AKOR WITH RUCKS!!!
>NOOOO!!!!! LIZARDMEN DIDN'T BTFO SKAVENSHITS!!! THEY HAD THEIR PEONS DIE!!! THAT MEANS THE LOOOOST!!!! (Even if saurus/skinks/slann are totally disposable as long you have a way to make more, which they do, now with stardust.)

>>52480739
That actually manages to look badass.

>>52480636
He also considers anything that goes against his personal interpretation to be fanfiction, and has an encyclopedic knowledge of lore that agrees with him, and convenient bouts of amnesia for lore that contradicts him.
He's also the type of genuine autist that refuses to let things go. It literally took 5 years of getting BTFO over the Blood Ravens/1Kson connection before he finally dropped it.

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>>52480779

Not quite so badarse but the old Saurus always seemed fairly dangerous to me too.

A lot of Komodo Dragon in their design.

>>52480598
How so?

>>52479420
Hey wow now hold on, I am a historical fag and don't give a shit about that stuff. Plenty of good games to look forward to.

Can't wait to play Lizardmen. They became my favorite army around the time 7th was starting up, when I got back into fantasy (undead were previous army, so the 1st game was loved too).

The potential for them is there in a lot of ways too. Other Lizardmen factions to conquer or Confederate (since not everyone follows the Old One's plan in the same way), Mazdamundi, and probably Krok'Gar as well for special Lords. And no doubt some sort of special mechanic representing how well everything is following the Old One's plan.

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>>52480779
There's all kinds of awesome Lizardmen art out there (even some rule34 with Amazons).

Frankly it's going to be hard for them to get them looking as good with such small models. But as long as they're somewhat colourful and and vicious looking, then we should be good. And honestly, the fat arms on the Slann don't bug me as much as the hat does, for some reason.

>>52480847
Those are pretty cool, but I prefer the new style myself.

>>52480951
>even some rule34 with Amazons
Unless those are packing some strapons on either side it's going to be pretty much l/u/v.

I swear to god if lizardmen have dicks I will go nuclear.

>>52480982
boy do I have a song for you, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR4Uri9H_Ds

>>52480993
I don't know what is worse
>Lizardtits
>Lizardmen with genitals other than a cloaca and looking extremely confused at what the warmie fucking shit wants to do
I'll go for lizardtits.

>>52480911
I'm looking forward to unleashing Salamanders and Dinos on people.
I wonder how Stegs will stack up against Aracnaroks

>>52480951
Seeing lizardmen in a warhammer game at all made me very happy, but the designs of Slann in the models had some very specific things that made it work in the model/tabletop. The skinny as shit limbs. The implied massive amounts of weed. The fact that he doesn't even look like hes paying attention while he casually dispels your wizards greatest works.

For some reason the look of bored/mild contempt on the old Slann model is what made me like them, and I don't see much of that in the clip posted.

>>52480982
Yes, they gave them dicks.

It bugged me too, but there's a short comic, and 1 other image by someone else, that features such deviance from canon. So whatever. (could be worse, could have gotten some sort of retarded gay shit between kroak and mazdamundi).

>>52481313
>The fact that he doesn't even look like hes paying attention while he casually dispels your wizards greatest works.
He isn't pretending to not give a shit.
He isn't giving a shit, you're not worth his time he's thinking of more important things.

>>52481273
>I wonder how Stegs will stack up against Aracnaroks
I wonder what level Mazdamundi needs to be to get his Stegadon mount!

>>52481313
I can understand that. Though a 'sleepy Slann' wouldn't have been as cool an image for a release trailer. Hopefully we get the more lethargic version in game though. Mazda is sorta an exception as well, since the last army book talked about him being really active because he shook off the malaise that's plagued all his kind since the coming of Chaos to the world.

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>>52481337
>Gay kroak and Mazdamundi smut
I have that.
Tell nobody.

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>>52480743
I want to lock lips with this wood elf!

>>52473874
I fucking hate forest maps because it fucks up all archers and artillery.

It's retarded that the race that's supposed to be most at home in the woods (Wood Elves) is actually at a huge disadvantage on wooded maps because the effectiveness of their archers is effectively cut in half or worse because the shit AI can't stop firing straight into trees.

>>52481607
>be wood elf
>patrolling the edges of Athel Loren as usual
>some Bretonnian with a big sword sees me
>throws down his weapon and starts running at me, saying something about how he's finally found some lady and that I'm more beautiful than he ever could have imagined
>am flattered, but he trespassed - break his hips and leave him at the edge of the forest

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>>52481607
Asrai are not lewd! We are proud and noble race!

>>52479437
Skaven NEEDED new models, Lizardmen were already amazing.

>>52480598
Wat?
They look like in the art not like the miniatures, so actually huge and dangerous opposed to weird manlet crocodiles.

The slann had access to a geomagnetic web bursting to full and would have wiped out the rats with ease if they didn't happen to blow up the moon the same day. Also, the skaven didn't intentionally drop the moon to defeat the lizardmen, the slann purposely contained the explosions to the southlands and lustria so that the rest of the word would have a fighting chance. Those warpstone fragments were supposed to fall everywhere because the skaven are retarded and didn't realize it's hard to harvest it when the world has been destroyed by continent sized fragments

>>52481313
I agree with the boredness, he is too involved but that could be just for the trailer.

That beeing said i absolutley love the new saurus due to them actually looking huge and i think that the skinks looking overly happy makes them great.

>>52478279
>one of you isn't planning to betray me
*gasp*

>tfw getting to around turn 50 and something ALWAYS comes out of nowhere to fuck everything up

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>>52481714
>>52481741
Elves are for snuggling, SNUGGLING!

>>52481832
>>52478279
>Say this
>One rat wakes up
>Never mind

Anyone else chuckling at the ads for the game, as well? Where there's talk about who the 4th 'mystery race' is going to be.

I'm pretty sure it's going to be Skaven, and they're not going to be a DLC race. Both because the oft-mentioned Tomb Kings are more neutral, and probably wouldn't be interested in destroying the High Elves' vortex. Not to mention the rat that obviously shows up in the trailer.

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>>52481714
Shame we can burn them and buildings like in Attila

>>52481741
What are these punks with neon green hair supposed to represent?

>>52481793
Skaven already had models that blew dinosaurs out of the water.

The sound design for the lizardmen in the trailer is better than anything I could have possibly hoped for. Fucking amazing.

>>52481830
Agreed. Happy skinks are the best skinks.

I feel like they are a "good guy" counterpart to skaven and goblins in the sense that they are overeager shit-heads who regularly mis-interpret the slann and argue weeks on end over stupid bullshit.

Christ I love those obnoxious little shits.

>Skink Priest and Saurus Old-blood in council with the Slann.
>"OH GREAT SLANN! I your humble high priest and the oldblood protector humbly ask your bidding!" The excited gecko screeches.
> ".*kuro*..Smoke weed erryday...."
>"Well you heard him. Kill more clanrats. Get to it Old-Blood!"
>"But it sound like he say..."
>"Who's the high priest with 45 years experience interpreting the masters words? trust me. He said kill more clanrats."

I know warhammer fantasy only through the game. What kind of armies are elves and lizardmen?

>>52481991
all those features make the game run badly.

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>>52481998
Spellweaver.

>>52481313
>>52481830

I like the anger. And it's certainly more tactile visually for a game than otherwise.

>>52482058
>Old blood
>Not just saying "I think he said kill all the warmiefucking shits."

>>52482061
From playing the med 2 mod I have gathered that the core of your elven armies, both dark are filled with citizen soldiers that are armed like hoplites that engage in a shoving match. Their artillery is a semi automatic bolt thrower.

Dork elves get repeating xbows while high elves get english longbowmen.

Don't know about monsters because they crash games.

>>52482061
>elves
Elves are an army that is not actually an army.

>>52482061
Lizardmen are a weird bunch. They have lots of different style units you wouldn't expect to see together. Skinks are fast and nimble with poison. Saurus are big and nasty but slow. Slaan are the best wizards in the game. It's a very mixed bag that somehow works well.

Elves are all about speed, agility, magic and striking first. They're kind of a glass hammer.

>>52482092
someone at CA sure has a foot fetish.

>>52482092
Wow, they really did a great job creating a model that doesn't resemble the miniature at all.

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>>52482136
GW has it too, its patrician taste.

>>52482092
>carpet
>drapes
>interrogative

>>52482136
>whenever female bare feet are shown it means fetish bait
You should go back to TVTropes

>>52482150
>CA has a ton of concept artists
>better make everything look exactly like my grotesque miniatures.

this is totalwarcenter levels of autism. I remember a guy arguing that CA was ruining warhammer because spearshafts were not thick enough like in his models.

>>52482010
Is that what skaven players tell each other?

>>52482203
These concept artists have never created anything other than replicas of historical armour. GW artists are responsible for countless iconic designs that defined the modern fantasy and sci-fi.

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>>52482061
>>52482135
What the other anon said, but also Lizardmen tend to have a thing for "big monsters" as well, since they live in a primordial jungle that still has dinosaurs living in it (they used magic in ancient times to bump it up to death-world levels of lethality).

Most notably are the classic Stegadon, basically a triceratops crossed with a stegasaurus, as well as the Carnosaur (T-rex). But there is also the heavily armoured Anklyodon, as well as the Troglodon (pic related).

Then there's 'smaller' monsters, which include their flyers in the form of terranadons and ripperdactyls, and the ground-dwelling Cold Ones, which are beefy and dumb velociraptors, and also used by Dark Elves.

Going by the tabletop game stats for in-game comparisons. Skinks are slightly more fragile than Goblins, but are faster and (slightly) more dependable in battle. Saurus are literally created to be warriors, knowing all they need to know how to fight moments after being 'born' (Lizardmen emerge fully grown from pools of magical water), and are comparable to Chaos Warriors, but aren't quite as quick or as skilled, and don't have as heavy armour. While the Slann exist in limited numbers, spend a lot of time sleeping, and are tough, but generally can't fight without their magic.

>>52482203
>>52482273
It's alright bro, he's clearly autistic.

>>52480739
The art looks nice, but they were rendered poorly in the cinematics.

>>52479660
>laser-guided boulders
Even Hans-Ulrich Rudel would struggle to drop a rock on somethings head from 200m up

>>52482329
Didn't they also have a larger variant of lizard men who were used as builders and were essentially giants, but even more slow and non aggressive?

>>52482491
Kroxigors are ogres analogue and too dumb to even speak, while lizard space marines saurus at least know some words.

>>52482529
In intelect levels
>Krox
fucking retarded ogre-tier, words are basically "Me murder that" and "me murder that HARDER"
>Saurus
Smart, but not talkative words are "I [strategy here] to murder that"
>Skinks
Actually smart
>Slann
Smartest

>>52482491
Kroxigar. They are basically equivilant to ogres and trolls in other factions.

They are kinda dumb and not as aggressive as Saurus, but the fact is that few things in the warhammer universe are as aggressive/mean as saurus warriors.

Kroxigar are plenty dangerous and aquatic to boot. Because of this they work very well with skinks. ALso if memory serves are a little tougher than trolls.

>>52482586
>ALso if memory serves are a little tougher than trolls.
Trolls regenerate missed limbs though.

>>52482529
Krox have great singing voices though. I shit you not they have the best singing voices of the Lizardmen, and if memory serves, they do so to calm Saurus in peacetime or some shit.

>>52481903
Dude you know if I could justify the Wood Elf Bretonnia ship I would. They fight too much though.

>>52482092
Wait a second - the Damsels riding sidesaddle makes sense, because Bretonnia is weird like that, but why are the Spellweavers riding sidesaddle?

>>52481832
My sides

>>52482648
Cool, must be old fluff, but it's the kinda thing I like. And I can't believe I forgot the Kroxigor, earlier too.

And I would love to see Nakai the Wanderer show up, but I doubt it since the only named characters we've gotten have all been Lords, no Heroes (best chance would be something like the way the Brets can call the Green Knight).

>>52482672
>but why are the Spellweavers riding sidesaddle?
Because she is already able to fly? All elves are obsessed with nobility and courtship.

>>52482672
>fighting
it's pretty one sided.
bretonnian shotas are kidnapped and their dads are killed dead.

>>52482529
>>52482582
Both Ogres and Kroxes are pretty smart, though, at least for big guys. You aren't going to hold philosophical conversations with most of them, but there's a reason neither of them are Stupid.

>>52480951
>hat
if I'm interpreting things right it's CA way to implement his battle standard

I'm biased towards big hats because I always draw my slann with them

>>52482394
That art is from warhammer online.
And how were they rendered poorly? i think they looked realy cool, they clearly went mostly with the Kroq Gar model for inspiration on the saurus warriors but thats not a bad thing.

I get the Slann but the other lizardmen looked great imo.

>>52482648
Where is that fluff from? That sounds hillarious, id love a source

>>52482901
I was pointing out speaking mostly, Saurus are smart, but they make worse conversation than an ogre.

Generally all lizardmen are bad at conversations.
Krox/Saurus because they barely do, or are boring (saurus probably just talks about war)

>>52483201
6th edition armybook I think. The second to last one before AoS dropped.

I played Lizardmen back then and frankly they seem even more fun in AoS than they were in WFB.

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>>52478279
Here, have the redone pic.

>>52483375
funny, i got the 6th edition army book lying around here somewhere

I dont even remember that.

>>52483280
Well skinks are pretty much as "Normal" people as cold blooded lizard ayylmaos get.
They can also learn Reikspiel and other human languages, tho i dont think a lot of them do.

>>52483555
They can and speak with a s-lisp-thing but they barely do since lizardmen relations with everyone is
>They're retarded, tell them to fuck off.

>>52483580
>tell them to fuck off

Thats if youre lucky, after all the assholes trying to steal their gold they tend to just kill people and be done with it

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>>52479446
This

I actually sold my skaven because I hated what they did to them in end times. I was expecting Thanquol to stab archaon in the back at the absolute worst moment, fucking everyone over inadvertently. Then skaven would emerge in AoS as Destruction.

>>52479446
Are you a native English speaker? How can you get the lore this bad. What you said is wrong.

>>52479826

>not that guy but I was a little disappointed with Teclis' face. He's not benedict fucking cumberbatch and should look older than he does.

He actually fits the description but not the miniature, the miniature never fit the book description, he's mentioned as being scrawny and weak looking but the miniature he looks like a metal singer with a square chin

>>52482423
SUPERIOR OLD-ONE TECHNIQUE! IT'S ALL PART OF THE PLAN!

>>52483711
Not a fan of the 9th age then?

>>52483743
this
benedick cumber looks generic skinny elf.

>>52471957
Yes. They did a WWI against each other, ending with a big snake god going fucking nuts. It was based.

Also Endtimes may have featured a battle between Skinks and Clan Eshin. Nobody is really sure. It was mainly about an Elf Princess called Nagash trying to reunite Ancient Egypt with her boyfriend, Settra.

>>52482718
Just seems weird to ride sidesaddle on a big eagle. Doesn't look secure at all.

>>52473907
Isn't the rivalry something relatively recent in the setting (6th or 7th edition) and therefore probably forged on the spot because neither race had a proper rival? I don't remember lizardmen having any special relationship with skaven in the earlier editions.

>>52483146
I'd wager Skinks are good conversationalists if you get them to talk to you. Pretty much imagining them being either incredible chickens, or cheeky little fucks.

>>52484134
Don't forget that it also created Skinks, the chads amongst lizardkind.
I'd kill for a red-crest Skink kit, those guys are just way too great.

>>52471957
Yeah, in fact it was so big that a fucking giant snake came out of a volcano.

>>52473604
Actually Lord Kroak used his shear force of will to revive his spirit and sucked the warpstone meteor into Lustria sot the rest of the world survived. As an extra fuck you to the Skaven he also saved the lizardmen by sending them to another dimension. Kroak makes the Emperor and Sigmar look like little bitches.

>>52478777
Wood Elves are Legolas wannabe bullshit.

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>>52478596
>Attack a small beastman army with a full stack
>There were two other fuck hueg armies hidden in the forest right behind me
>My reinforcements get delayed but their's don't
>On top of all of this they spawn behind me in a forest on the battle map
>mfw

>>52481391
>>52481337
You wouldn't happen to have a link, would you?

>>52482155
>does the grass match the foliage?

>>52482423
>THE VERY LAND RISES AGAINST YOU
>AND THEN FALLS IN YOUR FACE

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>>52478179
>I see the bad moon rising
>I see grudges on the way
>I see burning holds and lightning
>I see end times today

>>52480397
Skaven scientists shot an ICBM at a moon, which exploded over the Western hemisphere and its falling debris completely destroyed Lustria and Naggaroth. Of course, all the Skaven who were in Lustria also died, but that's okay because it was clan Skryre who launched the nuke, and they hate clan Pestilens even more than they hate Lizardmen.

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>>52480397
END TIMES
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T
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S

>>52478518
In Total War Warhammer there's an option to hide foliage when holding down the spacebar.

>>52479739
That's not how the natural world works, anon.

Every setting is a contest.

>>52471957
I never got around answering OP.

The basic answer is yes. in the Old World, the last several great wars fought by the Lizardmen were against Skaven.

Skaven were sorta portrayed as the primary Lizardman villain race, a more immediate threat than chaos.

Funny how things work out.

>>52487889
That was so edgy my neckbeard is gone.

>>52492972
Shave, you fucking piece of ignorant shit.

>>52492991
I don't need to while you're around. Post more.

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>>52480397
I think people are confused about the whole moon thing:
>clan skryre, the mad tech clan of skaven, builds a rocket to blow up the moon, which would cause warpstone (literally physical magic, fuel for almost all skaven tech and literally crack to skaven) chunks to fall, atmosphere slowly
>The grey seers, the religious order of skaven, get told by a demon rat that if they pull the moon closer with this ritual, the power would allow them immense power.
>Moon is pulled very close, happens to be on the same day that skryer send out mood spanker
>End of the world was literally miscommunication and show-and-tell day at the council of 13

Both clans had the right idea, but since skaven hate each other only 1% less then everyone else, shit rarely gets done cooperitivly.

>>52473604
It isn't Canon.

>>52480982
Why there is such a thing as male lizard you know?

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>>52487700
Holy shit, back to the campaign it is.

Time to get the irondrakes ready

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>>52494162

>>52494153
Lizardmen in warhammer aren't male or female, they have no actual gender or sex (just are refered as male for simplicity) and just a cloaca to shit, if they do shit.

>>52494202
Was the old ones themselves reptiles?

>>52494230
Were*

>>52494230
Nobody really knows jackshit.
Other than Sotek is basically a yuge serpent, but that's because he explicitly comes in.

>>52484789
Isn't sidesaddle for virgins or something like that?

>>52482010

Skaven basic troop however were fucking horrible.

Doomwheels have 2 models and they are equally nice (4th ed one is CUTE)

Wep team are good

Rank and file skaven are horrible prior to 8ed

And don't make me talk about gutter runners

>>52494264
In 40k they were referred as cold blooded.

>>52482586

Nope, they are more dangerous than trolls

They have same strenght but use Great Wep, so they attack at str7, while the troll attacks at str5

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Based lad got the final word on Brexit

>>52483426

Oh thanks this will fit perfectly as screensaver

>>52493139

Skaven hate each other way than they hate other races (with the exception of dwarf)

Eshin clan constantly postpones other race's leaders assassinations due to various clan needing a culling.

And they killed an emperor with relative ease.

>>52494332
Skaven list of hatred is
Lizard>Skaven>Dorf>The rest

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人に何ヘンテコなモビルスーツ押し付けようとしてるんだと見えるな

>>52472107
I believe skaven were a constant source of sacrifices for the lizards. They would hunt them constantly. less big battles more constant murder

>>52494230
They warmed the world so it can be assumed and i think according to 40k they are cold blooded and long lived.

It can be assumed that they were simmilar to the lizardmen,but not neccesarily just even more powerfull slann.

From their artefacts and the few clues we got we can assume they were actually capeable of moving around on their own and wielding melee weapons. They also had 5 fingers opposed to the lizardmen 4.

If the lizardmen statues are supposed to depict the oldones then they could look fairly simmilar to the lizardmen.

>>52479619
Because Eldar are 3-4th editions models.

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>>52478521
>they literally give him Wojak mask

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>>52478361
They look so adorable with their little dance at the beginning. Lizardmen truly are GOAT in Warhammer Fantasy.

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>>52495688
Fucking yuck.

Couldn't they have given him that bomb ass end times mask?

>>52479660
Yeah, but the point is that Carnac was the biggest Be'lakor faggot ever, and constantly hyped him up to be the biggest mary sue ever, so the nervous breakdown he had when this happened was hilarious

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>>52495820
Still looks like...

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>>52495840
Why carnac?

=>>52495688
>>52495820
Well, these design sucks by video games standarts

>>52496040
how many games have thousands of entities on the screen at once?

>>52496068
I don't talking about quality (while it's trailer, not game engine, literally "not actual gameplay"), I am talking about aesthetic

>>52480598

Looks are deceptive

>>52481979
Well, and Tomb Kings would show up in a game themed around the Land of the Dead and the southern Badlands with Chaos Dwarves and whatnot.

>>52496157

or the Southlands

>>52494332
Skaven don't really give a shit about the Short-things. Too few and too irrelevant. Lizardmen are their preferred racial enemy.

>>52496157
There are no playable races beyond the World Edge Mountains except for Greenskins (which are already in the game), Ogres and Chaos Dwarfs. It makes no sense setting a game there.

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>>52495453
Why Old Ones used bolters though? It could be explained their weapons are precursor to Imperium ones.

>>52496440
Or it could be dropped from warp portal from 40k.

>>52496440
They also had a bunch of magical items with 40k wargear rules in their fortress at Albion.

>>52496349
Aren't the Tomb Kings in the same general area? If not, then that makes me a little sad because I want Chaos Dwarves and Ogres in the game.

>>52496440
The Old ones gear is all based on 40k stuff.

Remember that Orks build Bolters too and they have been engineered by the Old Ones.
As such it can be concluded that the Bolter is probably not a uniqueley Human invention.

I find it more likley that in the Dark Age of Technology, Humans have encountered Orks or other Old Ones engineered societies and reverse engineered their designs.

I mean in reality it all boils down to it beeing a nod towards 40k in general and Space Marine weapons beeing the most well known 40k weapons.

>>52496440
>52496440
Also not just Bolters.

What do you think the "Piranah" sword is?
I think they also got equivalents for iron halos, chain fists and power swords in the albion campaign and the lizardmen magical items got the Chainsword i mentioned above and a few other things.

>>52496889
No, they're to the south, nobody lives there but more undead and Lizardmen further south.

>>52497165
Oh, so it still kind of works. I hope 3 will range from Chaos Dwarves and Ogres to the Tomb Kings.

>>52496889
>>52497201

One of the most followed theories said that the expansions would be in this three lands. But we're getting the Southlands in Total Warhammer 2, so probably Tomb kings will be there as well.

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>>52497265
forgot pic

>>52497201
Which would imply that there are no race DLC for game 2.

I think we need to get away from the idea that game 3 will be like game 2.

I think game 3 will be like Attila to Rome and overhaul the game and perhaps introduce new iterations of races we already got.

>>52497364
I sure as hell hope they at least get spellcaster heroes right by game 3.

>>52497464
Whats wrong with them now?

>>52497504
Kemmler and Gelt are currently a complete waste of a slot that could be much better taken by a standard wizard.

>>52481796
>manlet crocodiles.

Among the biggest 'human sized' infrantry, towering over chaos warriors, newfriend.

>>52497533
Why

>>52478154

Did we win?

>>52497565
I own Lizardmen, the Saurus warriors look like manlets because their heads are way too big compared to their bodies and their are not even 1/3 taller than my skinks.

maybe you are thinking of the new saurus guard, i still own the old metal ones so maybe the new ones do better but 6th edition saurus guard are fucking manlets.

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>>52480779
indeed

>>52497569
Because they die easily, and nothing distinguishes them from a standard wizard of the same order, outside faster cooldowns and higher point cost.

Granted, Gelt's the only way for the Empire to get Metal wizards, but Metal isn't exactly a top tier magic wind, and you're much better off getting a lord who can actually do some damage and/or not die to a stiff breeze for his point cost.

>>52497642
6th edition saurus warriors i mean.

>>52497642
>they look small because of hero scale!

Nice relativism, subjective, point still remains. They are amongst the biggest infantry. Bigger than chaos warriors, who are fluff wise about supposed to be about 2 metres.

>>52478361
So what's it like for non-Chaos peoples to interact with lizardmen? I imagine that Slann would basically just ignore you. But what about Skinks and Sauruses?

>>52479420
>bullshit copy and paste DLC for their own titles.
That's what pisses me off the most honestly. Getting 5 different human factions with the same exact animations and skeletons but different stats and colors is somehow worth 20 bucks but an entirely new race with entirely different animations and units working in a wholly unique way is not? Its not like they're selling goddamn Tilea or Kislev for 20 bucks but the fuckers still bitch and moan as if now they suddenly care about getting fucked up the ass the exact same way they did before.

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>>52497580
Yes.

>>52480636
Also there's a pretty good chance he's been around since at least 2009-2011. He might've been the guy pushing the Blood Feud between both flavors of Eldar.

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>>52497580
Skaven Broodmothers cried

>>52497668
well saurus warriors are supposed to be over 2 meters tall.
And i specifically talked about how they looked not about the scale. Huge heads, tiny arms, broad crocodile looking mouth.

I much prefer what they did with them in the trailer and from the grey models weve seen in the interview in the game, they look more menacing and less like chinese knockoff dinosaurs.

>>52478719

Seraphons are memories summoned as Damons of Orders... but even the state of "memories" is not sure, maybe they are something more... some kind of ascendend race that can be summoned beyond space and time by the Slann.

>>52497674
>Saurus
Beat you. Alternatively, take you to a slann/priest, then beat you.
>Skink
Actually they're like people, should they peak a common language communication and dialog is possible.

>>52497278
>>52497265
>You will live to make Karaz-Ankor great again from north pole to south pole

>>52497580
An utter shitstomp.

>>52497737

Nothing looks small or big without a relation to something else. The word you are looking for is stocky, which I am fine with, even though I agree that they could have done a better job at making the models more dynamic and feral as it is represented in the artwork.

>>52479667
Something that size would need to be an ambush predator, it's not going to be chasing prey over large distances.

>>52471957
Ha, surely you jest fellow citizen. There is no such race of giant rat people that the lizardmen would fight. Such a thing would be absurd!

>>52497873
Listen to this heretic...he believes in such an absurd fever dream of a monstrosity as a lizard walking on two legs. To the stake with him I say.

>>52493139
>>Moon is pulled very close, happens to be on the same day that skryer send out mood spanker
>>End of the world was literally miscommunication and show-and-tell day at the council of 13
Dude no, if you're going to correct people in he fluff at least get it right. The grey seers pulled the moon closer months before the moon killing death ray was activated. it's why the slann got knocked out in the first place and how the skaven were initially so successful in the opening stages of the war.

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>>52497873
You should listen to this man-thing!
He's smartclever, yes.

>>52498024

And who art thou exactly, if I may ask?

>>52498084
Just a friend, against the Trecherus manthings -may the horned manthing curse them- that spred vile lie-slandres and madnuss to us impeereel sitisens

>>52498164

Ah ha, he he! Here we call them wo-men, you must be from outside of this province.

Let's catch a pint of brown ale, my trustworthy friend. We have so much to talk

I really hope we get full skaven, not just clan pestilns

>>52498312

My dear friend, you didn't even get chaos undivided without a DLC...

>>52498312
of course you will, core games' roster usually end up pretty complete

at worst you'll not get the hellpit abos

>>52497278
If that's 3, I'm happy. That's what I was hoping for.

>>52497364
Amazonians? Aren't there some variety of human there? And some variety of Chaos?

>>52497533
Yes and no. Gelt can definitely be useful if you use metal right. However, Kemmler is 100% the most useless.

But also, you're only mentioning 2 mage heroes. What about the Fae Enchantress? Ghorst? Wurrzag? Azhag? Moghor?

>>52498541
I can't speak for the Enchantress or Morghor, having not played them, But Azhag and Wurzag are both useful in a fight, albeit not as much as a standard Melee Lord.
Ghorst is useful because he can Summon Grave guard rather than standard zombies.

IMO, Ghorst is the baseline they should use to make pure spellcasters more useful; they get malleable and more powerful spells of the wind they're based off.

>>52498590
Someone like Ghorst or Azhag imo. Ghorst because he gets better spells, Azhag because Orcs can't get death w/o him (and because death is literally the best magic).

>>52498494
You've got Not!Vikings, Zombie-Pirates, Aztec Amazons, Estalian Conquistadors and various Empire coastal colonies, at least in the lore.

Dunno if they'll add any of them though, they're all pretty undeveloped in terms of what units they'd have. To my knowledge only the Vampire Coast ever got anything resembling tabletop rules and they were basically just slightly tweaked VC.

>>52498638
Was it shadows that has purple sun? Cause that spell is pretty damn good.

So is Windblast suprisingly so.

>>52494266
It was just the traditional way for women to ride horses for years - partially due to what was seen as proper (straddling a horse was seen as immodest), and partially because women for a long time wore long dresses, which were awkward to wear with a normal saddle while riding astride.

>>52498652
Purple sun is death. Same with spirit leech. Those are (imo) the 2 best spells.

>>52496440
>dirty chaos norsemen try to claim Amazons of their own
>instead of aknowledging their origin as the righteous servants of the Old Ones
This displeases the Slann

>>52499979
>They are woman
>they fight damn well
For the Norse that means they are related to them. As their woman are also often damn good fighters.

On a related note: How do you think Skeggi would develop without end time shit?
The Norse there were already riding cold ones by then. Them going full native and venerating the Old Ones and Sotek would've been hilarious.

>>52496440
I remember an old black library short story. It was basically about an empire spearman and a village fighting off beast men. Right at the end angels come down, hinted at being blood angels. Was crazy, but i doubt its canon now.

>>52498541
any tips for using metal magic?

>>52503107
So the premise was that the entire world of Warhammer fantasy/AOS is a feudal/feral world with feral orks and elves that the blood angles recruit from?

Spooky

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Lord Kroak is my favorite WHFB character. Such a cool dude. I don't play but gonna get him just for painting.

>>52480739
Lizardmen 6th Edition Codex had some really nice art.

>>52478179
His face and finger say "here's the grudge just for you, fuckboy"

Are they gonna have naval warfare?

>>52505794
It would make sense since its in Lustria and I think CA said the game would still be connected to the old world.

>>52505794
Auto resolve only, like the earlier games.

>>52503107
>hinted at being blood angels
Or some Solkan dudes

>>52498541
I just don't get why Kemmler can't get Krell as a buddy/pet the same way Skarsnik has the Gobbla. Were they worried about VC's having too many combat monster legendary lords?

>>52502005
>On a related note: How do you think Skeggi would develop without end time shit?
They would be similar to humans of Albion who were in contact with Old Ones and were more powerful mages than slann and elves.

>>52508925
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>>52508955
Humans>inhumans
It works both 40K and WHFB

>>52479278
They're just jealous because they didn't learn about the glorious Slann Empire in their history classes.

>>52503107
to be fair I don't remember any actual direct confirmation in that short story that it was a village in the warhammer world, nor a warhammer fantasy story

I think the trick there was not outright saying that it was a backwater planet in 40k

>>52498649
Don't forget pygmies, or not! Amazon hobbits

>>52497165
Greenskins and Chaos will still go there anyway.