/tgesg/ - Weekend Elder Scrolls General

Lets talk about Ysgramor, and the possible meanings of him being a "Dragon".

>>52466039
Dragonborn are dragons.

We know that if person of non argonian race drink HIST juice then this person will become 'argonian' in terms of being connected to Hist , but is it possible for them to transform into Lizardfolk too?

>>52466094
Was Ysgramor dragonborn?

>>52466106
>but is it possible for them to transform into Lizardfolk too?
I can only hope.

>>52466106
Wasn't there some gang that sold Hist sap as a drug in Oblivion? I remember it having effects like skooma on non-Argonians.

>>52466658
It was rotten sap or something, it had the same effect on Argonians as well.

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>>52466039

>>52466039
This theory definitely deserves some recognition.
http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1514245-trans-kalpic-world-eating-nords/

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>>52470597

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>>52468542
>too teutonic

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>>52470597

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Couple questions

How does Necromancy in the elder Scrolls work?

How does interbreeding between the races work? If the mother is elf and the father is a man will the child still be elf?

>>52473038
So self respecting dunmer would mate with the beast races and outlanders.

>>52473038
Necromancy works by tricking corpses into sleepwalking on the Dreamsleave.

Unfortunately, they forgot about this past Skyrim, because now Ghosts talk to people in the present tense instead of passively, mistakingly or otherwise.

Ghosts that do talk to you are probably in utter agony for a number of reasons, but basically, on a cosmic scale, Necromancy is the very art of Doing it EVIL WRONG.

Just what the fuck did Ancano think he was doing?

>>52473237
What about Dunmer ancestral necromancy then?

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When were Nords introduced to Dragons? How? Where?

>>52474049
Atmora.

>>52474073
How?

>>52474085
Atmora.

>>52474047
think Planar ally.

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>>52474049
In Atmora the early nords worshiped the aedra in the form of animal totems, one of which was the dragon. So it's assumed that both the remnants of the wandering ehlnofey and the dragons settled there.

>>52474637
Thank you

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I saw someone reference Morrowind recently as an example of 'ancient aliens' stories in a really matter-of-fact way and it's been driving me up the fucking wall.

I spent months lore-diving. Trawled the Imperial Library, obsessed over coincidences in music, discovered theories as bizarre as Talos the TAL Operating System, yet this shit's news to me. Was Anon simply mistaken or have I managed to miss the forest for the trees here?

Nords are objectively the best race in Skyrim. Why? Because frost magic is encountered the most frequently, interferes with 2 of the 3 main playstyles by draining stamina, makes you slower, and is used by the toughest enemies.

>>52466106
>but is it possible for them to transform into Lizardfolk too?
Defeats the point IMO. Argonians are reptilian due to circumstance, not necessity. It'd be like if people turned brown upon converting to Islam (exploit away, I'm 2tired).

>>52473237
>because now Ghosts talk to people in the present tense instead of passively, mistakingly or otherwise.

Not true, ghosts in Morrowind that were not ancestor spirits did exist, and talked in the present tense.

>>52474735
>Argonians are reptilian due to circumstance, not necessity.
Maybe the Hist likes their lizardy forms, and wants all to share in it.

>>52474710
Minmaxers pls go

Are there others who've achieved CHIM besides Vivec?

>>52475780
(Supposedly) Tiber Septim.

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Anyone know where to find concept art for Oblivion? Bethesda's flickr has the DLC concept art but not the main game.

I want to see if the concept art for Oblivion is as half-realized as the Skyrim concept art was for Skyrim.

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>>52476132
I would love too, but it seems it was never released to the public, except for a very limited amount of images used in promotion.

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>>52476247
Also, unlike Shivering Isles, nobody's even credited for Concept Art for base Oblivion:
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Development_Team
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Shivering:Development_Team

>>52475796
Okay valid salad. Beyond him?

>>52476589
Not to my knowledge.

>>52476627
Seems like KINGs come few and far between.

>>52473038
On the interbreeding, just read Racial Phylogeny. It has everything.
>>52474693
Morrowind doesn't really much to do with Ancient Aliens, but TES setting on large can be easily interpreted asan Ancient Aliens setting. See Akatosh's spaceship, Mundus being a sort of reality making computer (this is why it's TalOS), Clockwork City (which supposedly is older than Sotha Sil and has something to do with Mundus being a machine) in Morrowind full of electronic circuits and cybernetics, Pelinal (literally an ancient alien) etc.

>>52475400
No, that's dumb. Get your scale-fantasies out of here.

>>52474710
>Shit racial power
>Passive can be achieved by being a vampire
The best are Altmer, Bretons, and Orcs. Luckily race doesn't matter as much so it's not as huge of a deal than in a game like Morrowind.

>>52477631
>Literally
No canon present.

The hrines in the new LoZ vaguely remind me of the Redoran-favored mini dome buildings, and the mummified monks have me thinking of sacred necromancy. Plus it joins with morrowind in whetting my appetite for more pilgrimage based content.

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>tfw not autistic enough to enjoy pre-morrowind games

>>52479258
Redguard doesn't need autism. It still needs high tolerance of bad gameplay and a computer with Win98 to run it.

>>52479340
I wish someone would do Open Redguard. It deserves it.

>>52475780
The Ruddyman

>>52480895
This is true, but often overlooked which is funny because Vehk himself got CHIM from Ruddy Man aka Molag Bal.

>>52478167
>giving a shit about racial power
>being a vampire
Negro please. Bretons only matter because late game you can get to the magic resist cap with fewer items, but late game everyone is equally OP anyway, EARLY game is the only time racial abilities matter, and your magic resistance can eat a dick compared to 50% frost. What uses frost? ALL draugr, half of falmer magic, 1/3rd of bandits and wizards, and frost breath dragons have more HP than their fire counterparts. Frost also fucks with stamina for power attacks and slow time archery. Altmer are only good if you're playing a mage, and what kind of faggot does that?

for Lord Dagon forever reborn in blood and fire from the waters from Oblivion for Lord Dagon forever reborn in blood and fire from the waters from Oblivion for Lord Dagon forever reborn in blood and fire from the waters from Oblivion for Lord Dagon forever reborn in blood and fire from the waters from Oblivion for Lord Dagon forever reborn in blood and fire from the waters from Oblivion for Lord Dagon forever reborn in blood and fire from the waters from Oblivion for Lord Dagon forever reborn in blood and fire from the waters from Oblivion for Lord Dagon forever reborn in blood and fire from the waters from Oblivion for Lord Dagon forever reborn in blood and fire from the waters from Oblivion for Lord Dagon forever reborn in blood and fire from the waters from Oblivion for Lord Dagon forever reborn in blood and fire from the waters from Oblivion for Lord Dagon forever reborn in blood and fire from the waters from Oblivion

>>52477875
Nuh-uh, it's neato!

>>52473038
>How does interbreeding between the races work? If the mother is elf and the father is a man will the child still be elf?
Race goes from mothers side. Child of Elf mother and Human father would be like an elf.

>>52481895
You should give a shit actually.
Dunmer vampires dont get penalty for fire, for example.

>>52481976
Sometimes the offspring will be of mixed race though, especially if interbreeding continues for a long time such as in case of Bretons. Some of in-game books also make references to that kind of thing and there's also Helseth who possibly inherited human like ears from his non-elven father although it's also said that he had surgery to change them.

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>>52479258
>tfw not ADD enough to not enjoy pre-morrowind games

>>52482324
Yes, I meant this on short term relations.
I wonder if Humans and Elves will interbreed on such massive levels, that they will finally become one Ehlnofey race again?...

>>52482324
As I understand it Bretons aren't real half-breeds so to speak, they're still humans just with a bunch of elf traits
Races aren't purely biological in TES as far I know anyway, babies always inherit the mother's race, but with some traits from the father still retaining, think like the kid of a bosmer dad and I dunno a nord mother would still be a nord for all intends and purposes, but possibly slightly smaller than other nords, or slightly tanner or something like that
So bretons are more like the product of generations of nedic women giving birth to Altmer babies, they're still humans but with each successive generation have retained enough traits of the elves that they're clearly distinct from other humans

Maybe I'm just plain wrong though, whatever

>>52482324
Helseth's father was Symmachus, a Dunmer.

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>>52476132
I can at least get you a few more pieces anon.

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>>52482487
TES is weird on half-breeds, and I think the lore's flipped and flopped on the subject. Remember the half-vampire from Oblivion?

>>52482522
Damn, you're right. I had forgotten he was a Dunmer being Imperial general and all that.

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Has a TES game ever given you a story that you legitimately got emotionally involved in?

>>52482584
>>52482596
What are these pics supposed to be? I don't remember things like that from Oblivion?

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>>52482668
It's definitely TES stuff, but I'm not actually sure myself. Might be Shivering Isles art.

>>52482637
Morrowind in many different ways. Sympathy for plight of Ashlanders, annoyed by bitchiness of Azura, awed by Vivec and Sotha Sil (genuinely maddened by Alma though), some Dagoth dungeons genuinely scaring me for the first time etc.

>>52480895
Who is that?

>>52482795
See >>52481072

>>52482730
It is

Adamowicz's Shivering Isles concept art
Shame he died, I loved his stuff

>>52482795
The Ruddy Man was a monster who battled Vivec twice according to the teachings of the Tribunal Temple. He is a carapace who gives power to those who wear him, although he is sometimes considered a dreugh, or an aspect of Molag Bal worshipped by the dreughs.

According to the Temple, the Ruddy Man was created when a Velothi child from Gnisis found a dead carapace, supposedly Molag Bal's old image from a previous kalpa where he ruled Mundus as chief of the dreugh-kings. Wanting to scare his village, the child wore the carapace, and the Ruddy Man was formed. Vivec did battle with the monster at the Koal Cave site near Gnisis, creating the West Gash region of Vvardenfell; it is said that the sounds of battle still echo in the region. Vivec was victorious, and brought the carapace to the Queen of Dreughs to guard it from the surface world. Instead, the treacherous dreughs gave it to a wayward shaman from the House of Troubles, and the Ruddy Man appeared ten years later outside Tear. After defeating him again, Vivec gave the monster's carapace to the devout and loyal mystics of the Number Room, who made "a philosopher's armor" out of it, sealing one of their own sages inside for eternal study.

The Shrine of Valor was set up in the Koal Cave by the Temple and served as part of the Pilgrimage of the Seven Graces. Pilgrims were told that the Ruddy Man was the father of all dreughs, and that Vivec spared his life if he agreed to give up their tough hides as armor for the Dunmer.

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>>52482832
Forgot to greentext to show it was a quote from the UESP, my bad.

>>52482487
I've come to find the whole inheriting the mother's race thing to be strange and not very well thought out.
I mean think about the political climate of Septim Era Tamriel. The entire continent is under one monarch and split amongst nine large provinces each themselves ruled by a king. Now the most obvious course of action would be for each of these noble families to marry their daughters off to other nobles outside of their rulership to gain powerful allies (think Morgiah marrying the King of Firsthold or even Barenziah marrying Helseth). But having all your sons married to foreign daughters would then result with all of your children's heirs being a distinctly different race from your own. By that sense every king and queen of Tamriel would eventually be of a diffferent race from the people they rule. Unless of course we are to say that the royal families of Tamriel all knowingly practice eugenics, which just seems odd.

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So, I've noticed, that one of old Georgian alphabets resembles daedric script. Whats your opinion about it?

>>52482730
Indeed, it is.
second one being palace of new sheoth

>>52482872
>not very well thought out
Well yeah I agree it's dumb as fuck, but it is what it is and I guess Beth can retcon it whenever it suits them but for now it's canon
As I see it it was born out of some misguided attempt to explain in the lore how you have distinct "races" as tangible physical variants even within one "species" like humans for example
I mean I can call myself "white" or caucasian or whatever, but it means literally nothing
We're all mutts of one sort or another in real life, but for gameplay purposes that doesn't really work I guess, and somebody had the need to explain in in-lore instead of waving it off as just a mechanical limitation

>>52482886
Dunno, but personally I've found that Dwemer script resembless Hebrew and Japanese katakana which oddly resembles Hebrew. I find this amusing because Dwemer are clearly Sumerian while it's Dunmer who influenced by jews and Japanese.

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>>52482988
All the elven scripts look the same

>>52482832
Thank you! I was busily flipping out over the concept of a daedra achieving CHIM. Thatd be a thorny issue at the very least. But a mer with aspects of a daedra? Okay I'll take that.

>>52482988
I've also thought the same way.
I think that cuneiform would better fit to dwemer than dragons...

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>>52482886
>>52482988
>>52483040
>>52483059

Daedric-Georgian
Dwemer-Hebrew and Katakana
Draconic-Cuneiform

noe, what about falmer?

>>52483041
It's clearly stated in Sermons that Vivec got CHIM by biting it off from Bal's dick, so I don't know why it's thorny. Of course Molag Bal (in this kalpa) doesn't have CHIM (atleast it's not active), but he used to be Ruling King of Dreugh kalpa which is probably why Vehk was able to learn CHIM from him.

Since Bal was the Ruler of the Dreugh Kalpa, would that mean during that Kalpa he was Aedric instead of Daedric? Or is my understanding of Aedra and Daedra fuckered?

>>52483157
Aedra were involved in creating Nirn, Daedra were not.

>>52483157
I believe it was just a manifestation of Molag Bal, rather than lord of domination himself

>>52476132
There's the effeminate race portraits that everyone uses for some reason.
So it probably sucks anyway.

>>52483111
Would that make Molag Bal """not a proper Daedra""" then? As in he's not a powerful et'Ada that just didn't take part in the Mundus project, but rather a mortal that "apotheosised" and learned how to dodge the end of the world and stay in his own pocket dimension of Oblivion?
Apply this to Talos, if another change of kalpa ever comes would Talos then carry on as a "Daedric" prince maybe by some other name?

>>52483284
Molag Bal is one of the strongest Daedra in existence, who may be slightly weaker then sheogorath and jyggalag
Then again, sheogorath is actually Hero of Kvatch, formerly human, so who knows...

>>52483284
I think it would. Afaik Dagon (originally known as Leaper Demon King) is from another kalpa like that too and then there's Meridia. Not sure which ones of the Daedra are actually "proper" ones if any.

>>52482886
>last letter
>hoe

>>52483536
>and it looks like person in a wheelchair

>>52483284
This changed everything!!! What else was left behind? The hist, the dreugh... Molag motherfuckering Bal... What else?

>>52483284
I think every spirit starts out as an et'Ada, before becoming a Daedra or an Aedra. You see it with Malacath and Meridia.

>>52483729
Afaik aedra and daedra are just terms of convenience without any inherit definition other than "our ancestors" and "not our ancestors"
As in the aedra, the Eight, are the et'Ada that sacrificed themselves to stabilize Mundus and are so revered as the beings that allowed for there to be a world for the mortals to live in, the Magna-Ge are the et'Ada that fucked the right out when they learned they'd be trapped if they stayed but still participated in the creation process of Mundus, and the Daedra are just et'Ada that never had any part in any of it at all
They're all et'Ada which just means spirits
The interpretation has always been that Daedra were there from the beginning and probably most were, like your generic shitter Xivilai and whatever, but when you think about it Daedra just means a spirit that's not recognized as being part of the project, so any number of the Daedric princes might be just "ruling kings" of previous kalpa that then later CHIM'd and became turbo-powered "demigods", what was that whole deal with Sheo and Arden Sul? Some thought he was the true lord of the Shivering Isles or whatever, others that he was an aspect of Sheogorath, maybe he was Sheogorath before Sheogorath was Sheogorath

>>52483696
Dagon, he was Leaper Demon King. He survived several "world eatings" by hiding in his pocket realm. He also used to hide parts from eaten kalpas there (being more like prince of conservation) until Alduin got so pissed he somehow cursed/changed him into prince of destruction.

I guess Dremora might be dominant race from some other kalpa.

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>>52483284
I think that, as time goes on and the series continues, all princes will eventualy get their special-snowflake-origin, until the only "original" spirits left will be the aedra and Magnus' bunch.

>>52484055
Which makes perfect sense when you read the Old Ways.

>>52484055
That's fine by me, rather they have some neat origin than just "eh they're akin to God themselves, but for whatever reason just sit in their pocket realms and occasionally tell people to eat other people, rape girls and turn them into vampires or turn moon dust into cats because reasons"

>>52482584
His mother was an orc and his father was Imperial I believe, so he was an orc with lighter skin than most orcs.

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>>52481895
>Altmer are only good if you're playing a mage, and what kind of faggot does that?

>>52481895
>Altmer are only good if you're playing a mage, and what kind of faggot does that?
[Spoiler]TALOS IS A FALSE GOD[/Spoiler]

What sort of unique Martial Traditions might the races of Tamriel have? How would their unique culture and racial abilities affect such things?

https://www.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/62rgpj/psa_noncanon_lore_is_no_longer_permitted/
>tfw got my hopes up just for a trick
:/

>>52484522
Well, the Redguards have the whole "cutting so well they can cut atoms" thing.

>>52485123
I wish it were true.

>>52482584
>Remember the half-vampire from Oblivion?
Yeah, what's the deal with that?
Is it possible, then, to get Serana knocked up?

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>>52485391
Her first experience was with TES version of Satan.
I doubt that she wants to have any kind of carnal interaction after that...

>>52485129
Asking more about formations, cavalry, that sort of thing.

>>52485432
What about raping the daughter of the King of Rape? Zero-sum TalOS guru meditation?

>>52485491
>What about raping the daughter of the King of Rape?
she suffered too much in her shitty life and is too cute for that

>>52475780
There's probably a couple who achieved chim, but just didn't do anything with it or did minor things that aren't nearly as interesting as being a demigod or changing a jungle to a forest.

>>52485607
I don't think CHIM itself really allows one to change reality. It is more like enlightment which in combination of greater power (such as heart for Vivec and thu'um+Numidium for Talos) allows one to manipulate reality and become the Ruling King.

>>52485849
Doesn't CHIM mean royalty?

>>52485926
Ye.

>>52485926
Yes, CHIM is the ancient Ehlnofex word for royalty.

>>52486079
As such, would it be possible for someone to have CHIM and not affect the world in crazy ways?

>>52486128
Sure.

>>52486128
It could mean royalty in the same way the Sephirot Keter is considered a golden crown, someone who knows things regularly incomprehensible to folks and gets some power from that enlightenment

>>52484234
His skin was kind of greyish and he had insane strength beyond an ordinary orc, I think vampirism is inheritable somewhat.

>>52477631
I think he was referring to Dwemer, specifically, being the creations/beneficiaries of ancient aliens.

>>52486598
Well I'll see that. Is Mannimarco the creator of liches here? And also what's the deal with liches? Vampires are explained by LOL DAEDRA the rest of the undead are tricked out of the dreamsleeve... But liches? What.

>>52485432
Was Harkon raped too? Or just his wife and daughter?

>>52480895
>>52481072
>>52483041
>>52483111
No, Vivec got CHIM when his head flew off to learn the secrets of CHIM while Molag Bal fucked his unconscious corpse and replaced his feet with daedra blood.

>>52484031
Got a source on that? Sorta fascinating.

Actually makes him sound like the Yokudan god.

>>52486821
Why do you think he's so cranky anon?

>>52486658
Nothing like that in lore. Elven ancestors (Ehlnofey, see Aldmeris) retaining their super magic and technologies during Dawn era when 12 worlds were made into Mundus, but being ancestors they hardly qualify as aliens. Also, technology of "Aldmeris" seems far more advanced than anything Dwemer (who had already degenerated from Ehlnofey) ever had. Supposedly Sotha Sil's Clockwork City is part of inner workings of Mundus and shows such wonders of technology that Dwemer seem primitive. C0DA also has references to "beam weapons from bygone era" which probably refers to Ehlnofey technology. I know C0DA is a fanfic, but this is tiny detail that's not important part of story and is likely taken from Bethesda's "lore bible" (hidden canon) which MK has claimed to have access to.

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>>52484522
Bretons: They're big into knights, and magic is pretty common. Likely very "individualistic" in that Bretons often focus on certain great heroes and brave knights, and talk less about the common rank and file soldier. Probably a big divide between city-states and agrarian Bretons. Likely some Nordic influence in certain areas. The claymore is a Breton invention. Might be among the few places in Tamriel one might see heavy cavalry (it's sort of undefined if Breton knights are cavalrymen).

Orsimer: Heaviest infantry in Tamriel, typically fight in tribal warbands. Great warriors who can make good soldiers under the proper leadership, but somewhat of a one-trick pony. Probably a fair deal of influence from the Legion. Orcish mages are a rarity, cavalry is likely non-existent.

Nords: Heavy infantry, some berserkers or other lightly armoured warriors. Less regimented and formalised than Imperial armies, but not quite as tribal as Orcs or Bosmer. They have a thing for axes, but don't tend to field cavalry. Mages are typically auxiliaries, and something you'd see in the retinue of a Jarl or a High King. Shouting.

Continued.

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>>52487019
Dunmer: It depends. The "stereotypical" idea of a Dunmeri soldier is something of a spellsword type character, where you'd see medium infantry, bows, and light magic. But it's going to vary from House to House, and there's a difference between the more rank and file soldiers in the employ of a House and professional elite soldiers, such as Order of War Ordinators. And then there's the prevalence of hired muscle, or outsiders like tribal societies. Someone else would likely answer this better than me. The question of cavalry is unanswered, but I don't think it would be very common.

You get the impression that there's a lot of variance for Dunmer, and that there's a lot of ways this could be answered. But like most things Morrowind, it's hard to say if this comes from the Dunmer having more depth and variance, or if it's just because it's the culture the games have plunged the deepest into. There's very little military lore on some races

Redguards: SWORDS SWORDS SWORDS. Tamriel's best swordsmen. Ansei at some point in time. Redguards are probably more into the idea of warriors rather than soldiers. Likely to be a bid divide between rural Redguards who still carry the old Yokudan warrior ethos, and more cosmopolitan cities with Imperial-like armies. Swords, spears, porcelain armour. Medium infantry is likely the most prevalent, but the traditional warriors are likely lightly armoured. The Redguard comic has some illustrations. I'm nor aware of any cavalry traditions

>>52486845
Thanks for correction. Seems my memory had failed. Still Ruddy Man seems to have achieved CHIM during Dreugh kalpa because that's required to be Ruling King.
>>52486865
Pretty sure it was Seven Fights of Alduggas.

>>52484055
Aedra also have origin stories, Arkay used to be mortal and Akatosh was created by Marukhati.

>>52487019
Would Orcish Mages dress in heavy armour like Imperial Battlemages? Since their whole schtick is the superiority of their armour and weapons.

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>>52487083
Imperials: Regulated, traditional, versatile. Their military history is centred around the Legion, which evolves to reflect the state of the Empire. Traditionally the core of the Legion is built upon professional, heavy Colovian infantry, but you'll find everything here. The Nibenese battlemage tradition lives on here. These guys have mass produced gear, and doctrines for everything from light cavalry to heavy pikemen. They have heavy cavalry, but Imperial knights seem like they prefer to fight on foot.
If you can think of a way to fight, the Imperials have it in some capacity, but the backbone will always be the Legion infantry, the "Ruby Ranks". It's all about soldiers, not individual warriors.

Altmer: It's a highly magical society, which results in a highly magical army. Since their society is also hierarchical, methodical and formalised, the army would be the same. Long lifespans likely result in very finely drilled and experienced soldiers. The focus of a battle probably comes down to magic against magic rater than trying to win by superior numbers or a bloody melee. The difficulty in talking about them is that there's likely a big divide between traditional Altmeri armies and Dominion armies. The first are an Altmer-only thing, and the kind you'd see in internal struggles. But the Dominion would incorporate Bosmeri and Khajiit footsoldiers to serve Altmeri officers.

Oh and by the way, most of this is from memory, so feel free to correct me at any point.

>>52486886
So do you think he raped Harkon, Valerica, and Serana one by one or did he rape them all together at once?

>>52487367
Bosmer: The kings of Valenwood don't usually keep big standing armies, and most fighters would be tribals. The fundamentals for these tribal warriors come from daily life and hunting, which involves bows and some magic. Gorilla warfare, ambush tactics, superior firepower and general irregular nastiness like that. That isn't to say that professional warriors wouldn't exist, or that they never fight in a melee, but it doesn't appear to be their preferred way to fight. Mages would be relatively commonplace.

Khajiit: These guys are all about mixed unit tactics, a natural result of their weird way of life. There's a cat for everything, from magic to archery to cavalry. Generally speaking a Khajiiti warrior is lightly armoured, in loosely fitted cloth, some scale armour and a helmet. Such light and mobile infantry appears to be the norm among bipedal Khajiit, but four-legged cats serve as light magical support, intelligent mounts for cavalry, and what's essentially elephant-cats. Here again there would be a regional divides between city and rural, between nomad and agricultural, and between desert and forest. But the general approach seems to be high mobility and high variance amongst troops. We know they have cavalry, but magic is rarer and not widely used.

>>52487270
I see on reason not to assume otherwise, though it might depend on the mage or tribe in question.
Orcs tend to be strong, and heavy armour is prevalent, so even a mage could likely use it.

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>>52487511
Argonians: Bosmer II Lizard Boogaloo. Just with less archers. These guys take the whole irregular gorilla tactics thing to a whole other level. We're probably mostly talking about lightly armoured tribal warriors, with the biggest degree of difference coming from what kind of Argonian they are. Mixed-tribe armies might be Khajiit-like in their variance. Hardy, and with some magical aid, but I can't imagine any real cavalry.
We don't really know a lot about them when it comes to this. Chieftains probably have personal retinues of professional warriors, and the Argonian kings we've seen from time to some probably had some actual soldiers. The An-Xileel might bring about a more united and formalised "Argonian soldier", but we haven't heard anything about it.

I wonder when we're finally gonna get a new TES game.

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>>52487709
I can't wait for Skyrim 2.

But seriously what's the deal with liches?

>>52487773
They are cute.

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Oh, and as a last note, here's a page from the Redguard comic depicting Ra Gada warriors.
Now, this is just a single page in a semi-obscure comic, and it's an illustrations to a play rather than the historical event. So perhaps we shouldn't read too much into it.

But it's still kind of interesting in how it depicts the Warrior Wave as barely clad Yokudans with swords (and spears/pikes). It could probably serve as an ideal for how the isolated desert communities of Redguards still fight.

Perhaps most interesting still is the fact that they have blue-green scaled shields, which fits very nicely into that whole porcelain scale idea you see around. Maybe this is where it comes from, or maybe it's just the earliest expression of it. Or I may be completely fucking wrong.

>>52486693
Mannimarco was the first lich, he achieved immortality through some sort of alchemical ritual. We know from Oblivion that this isn't the only way to do that. This also isn't helped by Mannimarco being affected by the Warp in the West.

>>52487892
So then he probably wasn't the first lich, more likely just the first that did anything involving events recorded historians would care about.

>>52489755
Well I'm more wondering about the metaphysics involved here. I know the undead are tricked out of the dreamsleeve... But what about those who willingly go undead? What are the implications for liches and vampires? After all, Dagoth Ur's shebang was a sort of anti-undeath, dead and dreaming and all that rot, but... What about the other sapient undead?

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>>52482637
Absolute fear in the case of Corprus and the process of Ash Zombies and Ghouls
I can't stand the idea of diseases and parasites, so one that horribly morphs you and contorts you like that fucks with me

I was the same way with the rat plague in Dishonored and to a lesser extent the Flood from Halo when I was younger, god I diseases dude

>>52482637
That was ,,, A murder mystery in one of the Oblivion towns right?

>>52491018
Interestingly the "Ash" descriptor on it made things less nervewracking for me. Made it seem like they turned to something not wet and gross before transforming.

>>52487773
There's a lot of lich types

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>>52466106
the typical 'Argonian' looks like a lizard because the Hist mostly use the native tree lizards (aka the Saxhleel) of Black Marsh for their pawns
then there's the Arena Argonians which probably started life as Dunmer, bit of cosmic irony on the Hist's part, maybe

>>52492953
>then there's the Arena Argonians which probably started life as Dunmer
If they did, they're certainly looking much more lizardy as Argonians in that screenshot.

Are harmonicas lore-friendly?

>>52492953
iirc don't some argonians follow the khajiit rule of "human, but with an animal skin, in this case scaly"?

also, would velociraptor argonians be canon

>>52493080
not really, it looks more like the flesh on the lower half of the face has rotted away, revealing the jawbone and the nasal cavities
then again it's not a gif cycling through multiple customization options like most of the images on the Arena race page

>>52493153
I think that's just retrojustification to make Arena's depiction fit in with the later established lore
if Bethesda chooses to do that, sure

What are some of the less known qualities of armor and weapon makes and materials? I recall Daedric weaponry and armor being harrowing, requiring a brave soul to wield it. And elven weaponry being almost weightless when swung.

>>52493209
>not really, it looks more like the flesh on the lower half of the face has rotted away, revealing the jawbone and the nasal cavities
>then again it's not a gif cycling through multiple customization options like most of the images on the Arena race page
Even the Argonian females for Arena look lizard-like, so I'm going with them having reptilian features rather than them being undead or something.

>>52493279
never said anything about undead, plenty of things can cause living flesh to rot away, leprosy being a notable example

>>52493362
Ah, okay. The other point still stands, though.

>>52493112
serious question by the way

Do they have toilets in Nirn, or just chamber pots and outhouses?

>>52493249
Orcish Armour is said to be very hard to move in without proper training, from what I can recall from a lorebook. It's also the best armour modern men or mer can forge bar ebony, daedric, etc.

>>52493415
I miss when orcish armour was just better utilized steel instead of snowflakium

>>52486821
Yes
That "I sacrificed 1000 guys" was bullshit story, to cover up actual "I was raped bu satan in ass" story.

>>52493112
I'm sure they're lore-friendly, no reason for them not to be. Wind instruments like flutes exist.
I don't think they're canon though, at least I don't know of any offhand.

>>52493474
nah, it's not bullshit, it's just that the sacrifice was part of the invocation to summon Bal in the first place
and then he's like "oh wow, you killed a bunch of dudes, am I supposed to be impressed? bend over you lackadaisical sack of shit"

>>52493499
Yeah, usually lore-friendly but not canon is good enough for me, but I'm not so sure on this one. This totally isn't about fanfiction by the way.

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I've beaten a crap out of harkon by mace of molag bal
funny experience

>>52493512
I have a feeling that you want us to ask you about what you're going to use a harmonica for.

What are you going to use a harmonica for, Anon?

>>52487866
I really like that style, and some chapters other anon shared were really cool, perhaps you have the entire comic to share?

>>52491018
Go play Pathologic

Might I ask for someone to explain the whole "void ships" and "mothships" deal from the 2nd Era?

speaking of Scrollhammer, anyone else who plays, do Dwemer simply not need a leader? As they have no units with the trait, and they don't explicitly state that they don't need one. One would assume that they don't, but i'd like to know how you handled it.

>>52494778
Mothships are exactly what they sound like.

So, do you think any future ES game will manage to get interesting Religious Organization content like Morrowind? Nothing in Oblivion or Skyrim really came close to either the Temple or Imperial questline, and I am including Knights of the Nine though I never did finish it, Oblivion rewarded being evil far too much.

>>52494824
My problem is that beyond the general idea that they are spaceships and are somehow related to the Reman dynasty, I know nothing about them.
The mere fact that there were spaceships weirds me out, due to lack of knowledge about the context. It almost feels like it was thrown in for shits and jiggles.

Is Altmer and Altmeri faith an Elder Scrolls version of Christianity?

>Image of God-Image of Auriel
>Constant crying about mortality and degeneracy
>Thalmor: TES Inquisition
>Eager for Apocalypse-Eager for Endtimes (so much, that they are disabling towers all over tamriel)

>>52495284
afaik it's more of a really weird form of ancestor worship. They used to revere their ancestors, and then they started to only revere the ancestors of their social elite. It just so happens that they trace their ancestry back to Auriel and won't shut up about it.

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What happened to the Centaurs? What about the lamia, do you think they'll appear in a future installment? Will they still have tits?

>>52475780
all of the characters you play as in the games have achieved CHIM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gGtcFttO6s

>>52495755
>lava part
I understood that reference

>>52494902
I'm inclined to say no
Bethesda is riding on the normies, and normies don't like anything tied to religion
BUT at the same time, they are also the guys who would go about PRAISE TALOS, GET FUCKED ELVES
So I can't be completely sure

>>52495503
I don't remember that from Redguard

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>>52494403
Here's the entire thing as a pdf.
https://mega.nz/#!5ct13QBY!wVD8Qh9RY3FnXRKu2PL8nWQnbLs3Be6UxURRpaafz0c

>>52494787
I haven't touched that in months, though I think I can answer that.
So, are you talking about the Dwemer list or the Dwemer Animunculi list? Because the former does have units with leadership (Ariti, Pahutu, Apprentice Architect).

>>52495503
I never got that impression from Shadowkey.

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>>52495503
Are you one of those "hurr le console is cheem" retards?

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>>52495002
Well, they're big genetically engineered moths that can fly to space. Afaik dragons were also used for same purpose. These things were part Imperial space program (mananauts) and resulted in building of Battlespire space station(s), but was cancelled because it was too expensive.

There were also Altmeri Sunbirds during that time, but they are really weird and it's unknown what they really are. You might have also heard of Vehkships, but these are from different (probably future) era and seem to be mythopoeia powered high technology.

>>52496471
do you have a source on any of this crazy shit

>>52496567
Battlespire (the game) takes place in space station and apparently dragon can be used to fly there. Mananauts are mentioned in Pocket Guides.

Rest is from MK's ramblings.

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>>52495420
There are lamias in ESO. Tits are covered though.

>>52496471
I'm the one who raised the question on mothships. I'm also wondering where I can read up on the 2nd era space programs.

>>52496674
>Tits are covered though
Will ESO ever stop letting us down?

>>52493918
Kek

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>>52496674
>Tits are covered though.
This is a travesty

>>52496462
but its true

>>52497340
No nigga

>>52493415
I figure they do have some magic waste disposal, but mostly "Dig a pit and bury it now and then"

>>52487773
Look up Lost Boy Cavern.

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Do you ever worry about a lack of creativity with monsters in TES games?

I'm not saying that they were always creative - Daggerfall had monsters straight out of Dungeons and Dragons, for the most part. But Morrowind obviously stands out for all its weird and exotic creatures, and you'd hope that they'd continue that theme in later games of making each province feel unique in what you find in it.

But if you look at Skyrim, its monsters are essentially the same monsters seen in Oblivion, despite the complete change in setting and tone. In fact, Oblivion had more monsters because of its weird 'everything gets better with you' mechanic - dreugh, minotaurs, etc. I'm worried that whatever the next installment will be will include the same general batch of monsters over again, with a few odd tidbits like Skyrim's draugr (which are pretty similar to undead anywhere) to make things seem unique. Even ESO, as far as I understand it, is mostly just reviving monsters from older games.

>why is that a bad thing

I feel like if they use the same monsters over and over, you could argue they'd basically be repeating the same game over and over. Oblivion is similar to Skyrim, what's next will be similar to Skyrim. They're ignoring opportunities for innovation in favor of widening a sandbox. I can't blame them for focusing on their strengths, but it saddens me that I know story and a richer setting will be left by the wayside.

>>52498262
I stopped worrying when I realized Bethesda couldn't possibly deliver new "Morrowind" ever. This is not a bad thing because OpenMW, Tamriel Rebuilt and similar projects march on.

>>52498027
Read about it on uespwiki; doesn't explain much.

>>52498262
Things that truly feel strange or unique are a rarity in videogames, or roleplaying games for that matter (though the latter has an obvious advantage). I'm hoping to see more creative monsters, but I don't expect it out of any game or developer.

>>52498262
Wait, oblivion had Dreugh? OOOOh Land Dreugh.

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>Mount Assarnibibi is north of Molag Mar.

>It was here where Molag Bal oversaw the Ninety-Nine Lovers of Boethiah that gave birth to Almalexia.

Neat. I think this is only mentioned through dialogue.

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Is blood magic a thing in the Elder Scrolls universe?
Do vampires get any special magic beyond simple drain cloud?

>>52499785
Nah, real wizards are into shadowmagic.

>>52496373
Specifically the Dwemer Animunculi, although they may have changed since I last looked at them

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>>52498262
>lack of creativity with monsters in TES games
>implying

Skyrim monsters
>ice Wraiths, wispmothers, hagravens, new spriggan variants that look more plant-like and inhuman, ash spawns, ash hoppers, lurkers, seekers, chaurus, chaurus hunters, the falmer, giants, frost giants

>>52499857
I just double checked, they have not

>>52500109
>Winged minotaur

The hell

>>52500170
Morihaus

>>52499877
Half of those things are just rehashes of Morrowind monsters. Hagravens were good and quite original though.

>>52499785
Sure. Why wouldn't there be?

>>52500109
I always just imagined Pelinal's head still inside his helmet, rolling around, speaking, shouting.

Like to think everything he ever said was muffled, so whenever he starts screaming about killing Mer he's just all "HMMFMURDERFUCKKKHMJ"

>>52500244
Me too. I imagined his head just pluncked on the floor, talking.

>>52499213
It's in one of the books too I think. I do like that Boethiah just left the ebony mail there for the Temple to find. He/she seemed pretty chill with the Tribunal

>>52500170
Morihaus, father of the first Emperor as consort to the First Empress.

>>52500300
I think Boethiah had a metaphysical orgasm when Ayem, Seht, and Vehk betrayed Nerevar

>>52500218
I don't know Elder Scroll lore is so weird and specific about thing sit seems far-fetched but cool

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>>52499857
Huh, you're right. They don't have any units with Leadership.

I've never seen them in play, so I'm not sure how you're supposed to handle it. Seeing as you need a designated Leader for the purposes of initiative and the fear roll on Leader death. So right now the only way to play them is with a Dwemer leader. Alternatively you could houserule it and say that Elite unit qualifies.

Honestly, I don't know if it's an oversight or if they're intended to be played leaderless. You're going to have to ask Duke.

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I hope everyone in this thread is a fervent worshipper of the Three-in-One.

>>52500540
I wanna slap Sotha Sil's prettyboy face.

>>52500578
He just wants to live the NEET life.

>>52500244
Pyro Pelinal

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>Who are our enemies?

"He that says your name wrong, in sky beard, or fourth corner, or the mock-walkers of our cousins, the tunnelers. This, too: the bitch-whore of storm if she does not take your hand when you ask it. And I see this idea behind that mask of yours already. You aim to take the land anew. You aim to wake the old sleeper. You aim to make the sky red. You have a name for it already."

>>52500540
They're doofuses.

>>52501142
Goofus!

>>52501142
ashlanders pls go

>>52500920
Some Doomguy in there too.

>>52500540
Get out, we worship Azura here

>>52500326
"I mean I LIKED that guy, but REBELLIONS FUCK YEAH!"

>>52500244
I agree, when I picture Pelinal speaking I think of his voice giving off that sort of Metallic echo you'd expect when speaking in a tin can

>>52498262
>Even ESO, as far as I understand it, is mostly just reviving monsters from older games
No it probably has the biggest variety of and it also has unique looking boss monsters

>Oblivion is similar to Skyrim
Is this bait?

>>52501773
>"When those soldiers who heard him say this stared blankly, he laughed and swung his sword, running into the rain of Kyne to slaughter their Ayleid captives, screaming"

>cue muffled, metallic REEEEing as Pelinal sprints away, his screams getting quieter the farther he gets

Imagine being a hoplite of the Alessian Slave Army and having to take orders from this guy, fucking terrifying

>>52501892
>be hoplite
>late watch shift is over
>about to head back to my tent to get some shut eye
>notice a bunch of moths swarming around the campfire
Maybe I'll keep watch a bit longer.

>>52498482
Read the notes/journals too.

>>52500578
Now you know why he wears a mask

>>52502618
He's also very shy.

>>52501383
what a cuck

>>52502654
You would be too if everyone always slapped your pretty face

>>52501383
AZURA UR A BICH
-Vivec

>>52502485
So "the lich" takes over the body/corpse of the one who wants to be a lich?

>>52503074
I imagine "The Lich" is the disembodied soul of the original body, changed by the rituals.

>>52503074
Only very rarely - usually the lich uses their own body to find a means of undead immortality. I think Lost Boy Cavern was pointed out for its uniqueness and relevance to the idea that two souls can inhabit one body, like the Underking.

Honestly, they're pretty much liches that you find in D&D and such, I don't see what needs explaining.

Who here's played both current editions of the UESRPG? Would you say there are any significant issues with either?

>>52504574
I was hoping for something spicier than dnd steak n taters.

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>>52499877
>never played dawnguard
>look up frost giant
>literally looks like a workshop mod

How would a Breton with an Orc father look like? Like a regular one but with longer canines, taller and stronger than average, and slightly greenish skin?

Or an Altmer with a Nord father? Shorter, thicker build, rounder face, less yellow skin?

>>52505420
I doubt it would be that radical for just one generation
Otherwise like any other breton, maybe barely noticeably more disposed to gain muscle and a bit taller than average but either of those could apply to any full blooded breton too
After all bretons themselves aren't THAT elven and they're a product of generations and generations of interbreeding
I'd imagine the traits of the father would be more personal, like if their dad had a big nose for an orc, the child might have a big nose for a breton type of deal

>>52505370
We already have necromancy branching off into more unique places with the dunmer, and pocket guides wouldn't really talk much about it, so the only "modern" tes lich info we really have is Oblivion quests.
Given how they pounded magic into the dirt for skyrim, we;ll really have to wait for a main series new location for potential tes-specific lich lore.

But since we're on the subject, what could they even change/add to make it unique and still be recognized as lich instead of its own thing?

What is the Argonian relationship with magic like?

>>52505714
Magical.

>>52505751
You're magical.

>>52505387
Yeah it's a weird halfass cross between the Bloodmoon and the vanilla skyrim giant.

>>52505880
More of a cross between vanilla skyrim giant and a vanilla skyrim frost troll

>>52505853
You know how to make a guy feel special.

So what's the deal with Morrowind after the red year? Who has the power now that the tribunal is gone? Are their Argonians still occupying the mainland? Is there any attempt to recolonize Vvardenfell or is the entire Island completely uninhabitable from now on?

>>52501487
i read it in mr. torgues voice
boethia is ruined for me now

>>52501271
YES

>>52501892
>orders
What makes you think he gave orders and didn't just point and scream?

>>52493153
>would velociraptor argonians be canon
No, but guar argonians would be.

>>52507819
tomayto tomahto.

>>52507948
It's 'tomeeto' actually

What are calipers?

>>52508295
What are googles?

>>52508421
Do goggles exist in ESO?

>>52508444
Yes, at least in ESO.

>>52508444
I don't know about ESO (and who fucking cares desu), but optical appliances do exist in Tamriel.

>>52508444
Meant TES. Fuck. Get out of my head Colonel Sanders.

>>52508460
I can't wait for two months from now when everyone flips out over ESO Morrowind.

>>52508503
I know all the plot details of it, I can leak it.

>>52508520
Do it

On one hand, optics do exist. See pic related and Dark Brotherhood helmet from Morrowind.
On the other one, wouldn't it be easier to just fix your eyesight with magic?

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>>52508622
Forgot the fucking picture.

>>52508642
In-universe it's probably really painful and expensive to get it healed with magic.
Like animorphs.

>>52508530
Okay
>main plot is actually not Vivec related, but more Sotha Sil centric
>Sotha Sil's clockwork city can in fact, affect reality. It is so powerful that a huge amount of daedra are teaming up to try and take it for various reasons
>Peryite and Sheogorath serve as the main villains, with Peryite being more active. Over the course of the game, Peryite manipulates things to infect Vivec and cut off his power (explained by daedric magic and Vivec not having actual divinity)
>This is to try and force Vivec into giving up the location of the city
>most villains during the main are trying to track the city down, Sotha Sil is implied to be flooding the market with fake maps and generally trying to mislead people, hence why there's multiple reports about where his city's entrance actually is
>At the end, the player reaches Clockwork City and a daedric three-way invasion begins, with Sotha Sil's fabricants caught in the middle. An endgame dungeon is Divayth Fyr sending in adventurers to help combat the invasion
>Sotha Sil is based off trainwiz's version it seems, fabricant people appear and sotha sil's city has an artificial sun at the center
>Clockwork City has lots of robotic versions of existing locations and people
>Telvanni have not developed the ability to grow towers from scratch, and have to grow them around existing Imperial structures
>Dratha ends up hating men because a rival Telvanni mage discovers takes credit for the from-scratch growing discover
>Therana is in, and is a gay furry
>Sixth House and Dagoth Ur do not exist. A sidequest in one dungeon has Sixth House descendants causing trouble, but they are not actual dreamers
>Balmora is a Redoran town, which was stolen from the Hlaalu. Over the course of the main quest the Redoran kick the ashlanders out of Ald-ruhn, and the Hlaalu take over Balmora again
>The ashlanders are the original founders of Ald-Ruhn, they killed Skar and settled inside of him
>lots of anti-slave Telvanni quests

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>>52508686
Damn this is rich.

>>52508686
>>52508736
This sounds alright actually.

>>52508686
>Telvanni have not developed the ability to grow towers from scratch, and have to grow them around existing Imperial structures
>Sixth House descendants causing trouble, but they are not actual dreamers
>lots of anti-slave Telvanni quests
These seem completely pointless for any reason other than to not just ripoff Morrowind.

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>>52509225
And they fail at it anyway.

>>52509225
telvanni grew towers from scratch, Tel Vos grew INTO the tower, not because of it.
And it's one dungeon with Sixth House people, not the plot. And the anti-slave stuff is more "slavery is bad mmkay" rather than specifically working for the twin lamps

>>52484522
Nords practice wrestling, I guess practices and traditions centered around the voice count too and then they travel around Tamriel honing their fighting skills picking fights and brawling with other races.

I know the snownigger meme, but isn't Nord fighting basically streetfighting? Instead of a martial art akin to irl eastern martial arts like dunmer have, Nord young are taught by their parents how to throw a punch, some basic footwork and how to endure getting hit and then they just basically beat the fuck out of eachother in drunken brawls and other aimless fights. They learn unarmed fighting not through practicing different punches, grapples or kicks written down in scrolls passed around Khajiit or Dunmer temples and dojos, but by picking a fight with anyone and everyone and learning through experience and pain how to not get fucked up again similiarly

>>52508686
Peryite seems like a poor choice honestly. Of all the Daedra who possess ambitions in the mortal plane, or standard power-lust, Peryite comes off as the least of such. His entire shtick has been, dare I say, an enigma.
Plus he's not in the House of Troubles, so it makes little sense lore-wise to have him challenge the Tribunal.

>>52508761
No it doesn't. Some of it is good or decent, but Telvanni not inventing reliable mushroom towers until second era is bit stupid and it makes no sense why mushrooms would need specifically Imperial buildings as is implied here. It is well known fact Velothi towers represent how Telvanni lived before the mushrooms.

Also, it doesn't make any sense for Peyrite to be antagonist in Morrowind. It's also implied that Sotha Sil built Clockwork City while established lore makes it ambiguous because it's supposed to be older and probably represent clockwork/computer core of Nirn that is sort of world machine (keeping Mundus running) built by Aedra.

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>>52508686
>fabricant people
>qt robot elf girls

>>52513630
I always thought the Wheels of Lull and all that jazz was already there and the Clockwork City was like Seht's original plug-in to access the world

>>52513806
or at least his expansion on an existing terminal

>>52466250
He was the first

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>>52478956
>shrines in the new LoZ
what's LoZ? I don't play ESO
also, I don't think redoran houses really have domes, they're like a weird blend between hermit crab shells and croissants.

>>52514722
They're not exactly domes, but yeah they're shell-like, the small house models with most of the important stuff in the basement that got duplicated for Dragonborn. I mean the Legend of Zelda stuff, the shrines in BotW remind me of trumped-up magitech versions of those houses.

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>you will never be a netchiman

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>>52514945
How high-maintenance are netches supposed to be?

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>>52515014
Not sure. Though I know you should be careful when handling a betty - they're known to be fiercely territorial, and emit poison from their feelers.

>you will never be a netch

>>52515084
Aren't Bulls the poisonous ones?

>>52513806
That's what I basically meant. Eponymic Clockwork City (where fabricants are made and live) is his own construction, but technology behind it is Aedric and it's purposs is to tap into original core machinery.

Screenshots of Clockwork City from ESO make me bit worried though. It looks too primitive, kinda like steampunk while it's supposed to be fantasy equivalent of cyberpunk. Complete with cyborgs and walls/floors made of electronic circuits seemingly forming gigantic computer.

>>52515014
Does something like tobacco and pipes to smoke it exist in canon?

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>>52515105
Ah, my bad, yeah. The bull is the one that emits poison.

>>52515014
>>52515084
>>52515105
>>52515177
Bulls are Poisonous but Betties are bad tempered, especially if they don't have a harem of bulls servicing them. And when farming Netch they're kept in close to 1-1 ratios so the monogamous Betties are extra cranky.

>>52515170
Tobacco is farmed in Cyrodiil.

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>>52515170
Yup, both tobacco and pipes exist.

Tobacco is mentioned in Waughin Jarth's "The Wolf Queen."

The Khajiit use ritual pipes to intake moon-sugar, and the Bosmer use pipes made from bone to smoke caterpillars and "tree grubs."

yall think Zurin was Imperial or Tsaeci?

>>52515326
Snek.

>>52515326
Imperial and possibly Nord. Doesn't look snek (I know he is undead, but still) enough in DF and I have never read anything connecting him with Tsaesci.

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>>52515240
>feathered cliffracers
screeeeeeee

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>>52506153
>So what's the deal with Morrowind after the red year?
They got fucked up real hard by oblivion crisis, red year, umbriel and argonian invasion in a short time span. 200 years later they're finally getting their shit back together.
>Who has the power now that the tribunal is gone?
People are back to worshipping Azura, Boethiah and Mephala, but the temple and house Indoril are kinda irrelevant. Hlaalu got replaced by Sadras. REDORAN STRONG.
>Are their Argonians still occupying the mainland?
We don't know exactly if the old border has been restored, but Redoran recaptured Mournhold. I suspect the current border would be just a bit north of the old one and they have reconquered most of the lost territory.
>Is there any attempt to recolonize Vvardenfell or is the entire Island completely uninhabitable from now on?
It's very much inhabitable, but everything around Vivec got leveled. My guess is that ashlanders are thriving.

>>52515510
They drop plumes.

>>52515639
Apparently it's even more ash covered than before. Even the Ashlanders usually relied on having a few non-ash places to head to in bad storms and for their Guar to graze part of the year.

>http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1514245-trans-kalpic-world-eating-nords/

Does that mean that the nords ended the last kalpa by tearing down the towers?
And if yes does that mean that the Thalmor are doing the same thing?

>>52508686
>>52512474
If I have to take a guess they're gonna put in Peryite corprus.

>>52515641
Which use the same texture as their mouths.
The "plume" is actually a tongue!

>>52515663
You could probably use the ash to grow loadsa crops and become the breadbasket of Tamriel.

If Ysgramor was a dragon priest why would Shor let him in sovngarde?

>>52515775
They don't have much sun, and red mountain ash seems hostile to anything that's not Ash Yams, Scathecraw, Trama root, and occasionally Bittergreen.

>>52515801
That's a pretender.

>>52515801
Dragon priests are cool

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The ending of the words is ALMSIVI

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Endy Wordsy Almalexia Sotha Sil Vivec

>>52519416
I went to a school called ALMS, if I still lived around it I'd find the font and stick IVI to the end of it.

>>52515908
>you'll never taste those delicacies

>>52520282
Doesn't scathrecraw have a negative "On eating" effect in both Morrowind and Dragonborn?