What are the essential elements of a space opera?

>>52450495
Where's legend of the galactic heroes? That's at minimum high tier.

As for space opera, politics, strong and well thought out characters facing ethical and political choices that put both their characters strengths and flaws into focus in an entertaining and interesting way. Now I know that sounds like a typical earth based drama, but you have to make sure you do it IN SPACE. Really, the only thing that differentiates a space opera from it's more contemporary counterpart of Greek epic is that it takes place in the space future, and thus has a more technological feel than a mythological one.

>>52450495
Aliens that some how conform to human standards of beauty and are despite all odds are sexually compatible with Homo sapiens. Bonus points if it's only the female aliens that are attractive, or if it's a female only race.

>>52450495
They are literally soap operas in space. That's where the name comes from. It's a melodramatic situation narrated in a setting of technological wonders, more often than not with the presence of extraterrestrial species. They are stories in which the intense emotions of the melodrama are juxtaposed with the"age of reason" that one might expect from such a setting. That's what differentiates it from, say, science fantasy like Star Wars in which the feelings of the characters, although important to understand their motivations, are a tier below the grandeur of the epic Hero's Journey.

>>52450810
Hmmm - good post. Space Opera is scifi melodrama, literally 'opera in space': the human question highlighted by scientific advancement and reason; exploring the Heroic Journey in the mythical future, not the mythical past.
As differentiated from Space Fantasy, which, you propose, deals not with the Heroic Journey, but with simpler (or grander; but not as 'complex') themes more distanced from everyday human experience: good vs. evil, say, or power vs. creativity.
Please, go on....

>>52450810
>science fantasy like Star Wars in which the feelings of the characters, although important to understand their motivations, are a tier below the grandeur of the epic Hero's Journey.
The fuck? Science fantasy is epic comedy/tragedy transcribed in a sciencey setting? What?

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>>52450495
>The Expanse
>only mid-tier

Whoever made this chart has garbage taste, though I guess that's more obvious from the fact he unironically rates Star Trek above everything else.

>>52453680
Star Trek is pretty good broseph.

>>52450495
Farscape should be up to God tier. Rick and Morty belongs there too. Move down Star Trek TOS, TNG, and Stargate to high tier.

Stargate SG1 could potentially be God Tier, as long as you ignore everything after season 4 or 5.

>>52453713
It's good by virtue of being first of its kind.

I won't go full contrarian dolt and say it's garbage but it's still goofy and for me pretty unwatchable. Its only real saving grace is the core actors brought so much personality to the show. TNG is a bit better but I'm still not a fan.

Voyager is trash though. Deserves to be way lower on that list.

>>52450495
space, drama, flawed and tragic characters.

Nadesico is way higher because it is genre self aware.

Where does Mass Effect fall in the tier list?

how about Mass Effect but with a good ending?

>>52453680
>>52453771
Star Trek TOS has its goofy moments, but when it's good it's about the best science fiction you can get in TV show form. Only shows like Twilight Zone or Masters of Science Fiction (which don't have recurring characters) do it better.

>Cowboy Bebop
>Firefly

>Not God tier.

ReeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEE...!

>>52450495
>B5 below DS9
>TOS above Farscape
Oh shit nigga what are you doing

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>>52450495

More than eleven times, in fact.

http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/search/filename/space%20shows/type/op/

>>52450495

I really hope that you're kromm or rpk.

>>52450495
>Voyager and Enterprise higher than Blakes 7
>The Expanse only Mid Tier

Get out.

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>>52450495
>Lexx
>garbage tier

>>52450495
Racial diversity, alien sex and awful facial expressions.

>>52454370
Mass SJWect belongs below garbage tier and you know it to be true.

>>52450495

>No hard-science shows.

Why can't I follow the adventures of robbie the silicon chip going to Uranus to take surface photos and spetrographic data for 3 days?

>>52462165
>ME:A wasn't shit because of EA it blew because of faggots on tumblr who nobody cares about
>i-i'm relevant g-guys

>>52462165
>MEA is the whole ME universe.

Kys.

>>52450495
Just go watch Legend of the Galactic Heroes.

It's Space Opera played perfectly straight.

>>52462180
It's called the NASA space channel.

Space Western > Space Opera

>>52462180
While it's definitely not "hard" SF, the Expanse is much more grounded and smaller-scale than most sci fi shows.

>>52450495
see: dune

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Damn it people, it's warmed over bait he posts regularly to spark off-topic arguments about where the various shows belong in his shitty image. Stop giving him what he wants.