MTG Spoilers

>aven mindcensor
>bad

no, you're bad

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Embalm seemingly has no/little affect on the cards base value. 3/2 Vig for 3 is good for a common, but it has that extra mana dump late-game if it comes down to it.

I really like this card for draft.

>>52448176
What does this even stop in standard? Traverse? Evolving wilds?

>>52448176
Cool Traverse the Ulvenwald you have there, buddy.

>>52448254
That's probably the reason it was reprinted in standard,

>>52448238
In standard*

It doesn't do much in the format, and the bump to rare makes it seem more like filler than anything.

>>52448176
>cool art
>bird man head
>fucking human arms and hands
Lmao no

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Miasma Mummy
Creature - Jackal, Zombie

"When Miasma Mummy enters the battlefield, each player discards a card."

I really liked this card. Has a great effect, is a fucking Jackal and is a common!

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>>52448300
Don't talk to me or my son ever again.

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>>52448300

>>52448176
>aven mindcensor
>bad
Are you fucking retarded? It's the second best hatebear out there.

>>52448533
Give me one reason to play this is standard.

>>52448616
Wait for the full spoilers. If it is being printed in Standard, it'll probably have a purpose. (Or maybe not, Wizards is full retarded)

>>52448616
>give me one reason to play standard
Fixed that for you. I'm sure there are some cards that search basic lands that will get hosed by this. Also, if this card is in the set, you'd have to be incredibly naive to think there weren't going to be some form of tutor. I swear Diabolic tutor is also standard legal at the moment, but it wouldn't surprise me if standard babies are too retarded to use it.

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>>52448300
you are wrong

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>>52448300

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My question is: WHERE ARE ALL THE DARN CAT AND SPHINX CARDS

I have two decks based on those and I've been waiting for this fucking edition for a while.
For now they showed only a sphinx reprint and a shitty cat card.

>>52448650
Traverse the Ulvenwald is being played in Standard and is a great tutor. Diabolic Tutor is great, but isn't seeing a lot of play. There's a lot of cards that search for lands too, including Evolving Wilds.

>>52448176
Guessing Amonkhet and Hour of Devastation are going to have a bunch of tutors.

>>52448244
Embalming on that card is basically pay 2 colorless to play from the graveyard.

If there is enough discard and/or mill in the environment, such as from cards like >>52448324, Embalming is a way of mitigating those effects.

>>52448660
That art is way too metal for white...
and this universe

>>52448650
>Diabolic tutor is also standard legal at the moment, but it wouldn't surprise me if standard babies are too retarded to use it.
Diabolic Tutor is too slow in current Standard

>>52448324
I'm dissapointed this doesn't have Embalm.

>>52448701
>Embalming on that card is basically pay 2 colorless to play from the graveyard.
How?

>>52448704
No, there are no worthwhile targets for diabolic tutor in standard, hence why it's too slow. If there were good things to fish, preferably engines, people would make it work. What would you even get? Newlamog?

>>52448254

Only thing of significance after rotation is Lost Legacy. At least with current card set knowledge

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>>52448300
Yeah how dare they do that in the egyptian inspired setting.

>>52448753
There is no rotation with amonkhet

>>52448720
How do you embalm something that's already a mummy, dummy?

>>52448244
I really, really hope this is the set that allows humans to truly kick off. They just need ONE good one-drop (that isn't Thraben Inspector. Which is COTYAY)

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>>52448813
>humans
>being good in an SJW game

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>Amonkhet masterpiece
>really cool card
>wasn't in Theros block for whatever fucking reason

What are the chances for this to actually be printed in Amonkhet?

>>52448835
Even SJWs aren't anti-human. Not yet, anyway. They're just anti civilized humans.

>>52448866
Yes they are. They constantly talk about how it would be better for earth, the environment, the universe etc if humans went extinct.

>>52448898
>>>52448866 (You)
>Yes they are. They constantly talk about how it would be better for earth, the environment, the universe etc if humans went extinct.
And cause the extinction of coloured people? No, you're confusing them with a completely different kind of nut.

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>>52448843
Am I the only one who hates these borders?
It looks nothing like Mtg at all

>>52448698
>Spoiler season hasn't officially started
>We have like 10 non-masterpiece cards
>One of which is a cat
>WHERE ARE MY CATS AND SPHINXES
Have patience, young Padawan.

>>52448907
>implying that sjws aren't entirely capable of holding mutually contradictory viewpoints
Doublethink called, it wants it's marxist cult back

>>52448777
How does embalming something reanimate it stupid? I just want a bigger rotting rats.

>>52448944
Are you serious? Everybody and their mom have been complaining about the look ever since we saw it.

>>52448737
I assume they meant "+2 colorless", or "2 colorless: now you can play it from the graveyard"

>>52448984
calm down dummydumbdumb

>>52448777
By embalming it again? Are you stupid?

>>52449019
calm down tizzyspazzyfatwrong

>>52448616
Mindcensor is a fucking amazing card, standard babies having no use for it means jack shit.

>>52448773

I am pretty sure both BFZ and Shadows blocks rotate with Amonkhet.

>>52449019
>By embalming it again? Are you stupid?
Okay, let's
>Remove the intern organs of that body AGAIN
>Clean the outside of that body with oil AGAIN
>Wrap that body in tight fabric strips AGAIN

where the fuck are my god spoilers

i need to know if i'm ready to throw my cabal coffers into the trash

>>52449006
pls no bully

>>52448944
>am I the only one
no you're not, have you been paying attention to the reaction to these at all?

>>52448996
Yes, that is exactly what I mean.

>>52449177
Nothing rotate with Amonkhet nor with Hour of Devastation
Return to Zendikar and Return to Innistrad rotates out when the first set of the block following AKH is released

>>52448616
i'll tell you once the full spoiler drops and the b&r list is updated. until then speculation is pointless you absolute idiot.

>>52449177
There's no rotation this year to compensate for the failed one and half year format rotation thing.

>>52449226

Oh really? Shit, maybe I can actually have more fun with Zombies then. Actually come to think of it that also means Always Watching is going to be super strong with Exert cards.

>>52449245
The rotation is in Fall

>>52449250
You weren't there when Glorybringer was leaked? A Wx Exert deck with Always Watching is more than likely if the exert cards are good enough

No more spoiler? Just the Mindcensor?

>>52449294
I think we have non-promo Glorybringer too
It's in another thread though

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>>52449309
There

>>52449289

I saw the promo art for Glorybringer but I'd like to see any cheaper Exert dudes to truly be able to get an idea of where i'm deckbuilding.

>>52449326
The crocodile dragon is just a bulk rare? Color me disappointed

>>52449289
>You weren't there when Glorybringer was leaked? A Wx Exert deck with Always Watching is more than likely if the exert cards are good enough
anon i dont think thats going to be better than vehicles nor do i believe it can beat saheeli consistently with that game plan.

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>>52449326
And normal Trueheart Duelist

>>52449343
I didn't talk about an highly competitive deck though
FNM level is where it's at

>>52448944
Who gives a shit? They're glorified promos. It's not like it's the official border from now on.

>>52449309
Yeah but no new cards. I see this thread with 11 pictures and there's nothing but the Mindcensor.

>>52449490
I think spoilers officialy start on Monday

So with exert being a keyword now, do you think they'll use it for cards with frost breath type effects?

>>52449503
Oh, i always thought spoilers started exactly one month before prerelease.

>>52448176
Need to see more to judge, but "it's shit" tends to be a fairly safe guess these days.

>you may exert as it attacks. If you do untap it at your next untap step.
:^)

>>52449339
>FTK your guy hit you for 4
>bulk rare
dude this one looks staple-ish to me.

>>52448616
>playing standard
>ever

>>52449631
>Not playing sixth most fun format :^)

>>52449344
This version is way too dark.

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Other board concept i found on twitter.
Thoughts?

>>52449683
Much uglier

>>52448300
>Egypt themed set

>>52449683
That looks just as bad. Why can't we have a style that looks more "ancient" like an old scroll or papyrus or something. Why does everything have to look like some shitty cg effect. That's one thing I liked about certain old bordered cards, you felt like you were using a page from an old spell book, like these spells you were casting actually had some meaning behind them

>>52449683
i like this, fuck yall

>>52449683
I like it significantly more

>>52449759
Better than the real things anyway

>>52448813
>what was Champion of the Parish

>>52449568
The tokens sheet that was shown a couple threads back, had an exert counter so you can keep it straight. But without it, a lot o people are going to forget who does and does not untap

>>52449716
I don't see what everyone's probable woth the name and type line is. Yes it should be centered around the line itself rather than the card, but I already know what the cards are called and what they do. When I first looked at these, I honestly didn't even notice the name, because I was more concerned with the art and style/border. Plus the rules text, which is the important part, is clearly legible. How many times do you draw a card and read its fucking name to know what it is? You don't. You look at the art and maybe reread the rules text if you want clarification on something.

>>52448616
Traverse the Ulvenwald
Attune with Aether

>>52449911
Wow 2 cards better run 4

>>52449683
This is significantly worse.

>>52449810
>it's too hard to place a coin or put a card upside down to signify two taps

?????

>>52449520

Are you retarded?

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>>52449929

>>52449835
>yeah the cards are unreadable trash but I don't have to read them so they're alright

You fucking mong

>>52449810
>didn't get the joke
Man these thread sucks nowadays.

>>52449980
Yeah, that's what my group ended up doing with detain, just turn the card 180 degrees.

>>52448244
>spreading the notion that Egyptians were black
Way to keep the lie running, mtg

>>52450065
They're sjws m80, they'll gleefully spread any piece of retarded disinformation that serves them, if only to virtue signal to other retarded cultists that they too are a retarded cultist.

Just look at how far they've taken the "women are oppressed" meme in the name of blatant self-interest? One of the two sexes has the power to decide which of the next generation live and kill the ones they want to kill. How oppressed they are!

>>52449810

I play with a couple of spare pokerchips in my dicebox/tokens so more often than not whenever something doesn't untap/detain i just put the chips on the cards and then take them off on my untap step.

>>52450065
>ONE CARD
I swear you are worse than them

>>52450065
>>52450116
>>52450154
Fictional environment guise :D

>>52450065
WE

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>>52450154
>one

>>52450198
Sure, but that goes both ways. Still, it keeps the misconception that Egyptians were blacks that you even see in high school (yeah, people are teaching that Cleopatra was black for example).

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>>52450154
>the instant you notice what we're doing one of us is just going to fervently deny it. it's the perfect crime!

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>>52448176
>it's going to be yet another "authority is evil" expansion
>probably with a revolution too

>>52450210
PUNCH!

>>52450210
The bro-hug guys look like a factor of the lighting, bottom right yeah very much so and I could go either way on the top right.

>>52450236

Well, it's a plane under the rule of Bolas, so fucking duh.

>>52450198
Is that why they hired a black chick to make sure their black 'walker acted like a stereotypical urban black chick instead of a fantasy character?

>>52450222

Cleopatra was Greek...

>>52450236
But the people are ok with the deadly planeswalker-making ritual

>>52450239
Haha lol i get this reference xD

>>52450210
snekman is cool

>>52450279
Have you seen Theros?

>>52450210
The two guys are pretty much white.
The two women are ambiguously brown.
Surely you don't think egyptians were germanic?

>>52450275
Yeah that was very strange, even among our lefty-liberal circle at uni that was a "Wait really?" moment.

>>52450313
>pretending those guys are supposed to be white
Wow you really are a regressive nutcase, aren'tcha?

>>52450279
Not according to some historians

Also it seems Mozard was black too

>>52450296

I have, and I'm really glad Kamigawa took place over a decade ago, otherwise it'd be all "WE WUZ SAMURAI AND SHIT!"

>>52450000
How is it any different than playing with foreign language cards if you don't know the language, or the elesh norn promo? These cards aren't meant for new players, they are for people who already know what fucking force of will does

>>52450332
>WE WUZ SAMURAI AND SHIT!
I'm glad you mention this, turns out they're going to film about the first Black samurai in history (irl he was a pet slave of Nobunaga turned into bodyguard who barely could mutter two Japanese words together), so...

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>>52448244

>>52450371
It's like watching the FBI list of most wanted

>>52450367
Well it is a real thing that happened and may make for an interesting film.

>>52450367

I can't remember if Yosuke was actually made a Samurai or not like William Adams was. I don't believe so, but I could be remembering incorrectly.

>>52450315
"We made sure she felt like an authentic black woman!"
>Hangs out with punks
>Disrespects authority
>Commits crimes for money
>COMES FROM A NOBLE HERITAGE (WE WUZ...)

I'll say it reflected my experience with them pretty well, but I'm not quite sure it's what they were going for.

>>52450347
Because those at least have recognizable art. I can't tell one cgi bird man with blue all over it from another cgi bird man with blue all over it, especially not with how small the art is on these.

>>52450367
>First
Only one

>>52450393
They're going to change the shit out of it, if only because a movie about a dude who don't understand shit and barely talks makes for a meh movie

Also it makes me sad that the first American movie with Nobunaga is going to be some Hidden Figures/Red tail kinda shit

>>52450367
So was William Adams but there's still a game where he's a samurai
Let people have some fun ffs, both of these guys story is quite interesting, maybe it will be an inclusion wank, maybe it wont.

>>52450313
I'm pretty sure North Africans are more similar to arabs or other mediterraneans than full blown nigs

>>52450437
But William was the first (if you don't count other "westerners")
Yasue wasn't the first black, because there can't be a first if there isn't at least a second too

>>52450401
He was, but historically he probably just stand around guarding his lord, and you don't make a movie where the main guy just standing there without taking 'some liberties'.

>>52450446
They are
But there also were also "full blown nigs" (slaves and shit) in Ancient Egypt

>>52450420
>a movie about a dude who don't understand shit and barely talks makes for a meh movie
If you had the political stuff running parallel and make the guy cunning with a good sense of intuition, it would be harder to make but I'd watch the shit out of that. Maybe have him understand Japanese well enough but not able to pronounce shit.

>>52450467
This, he was a bodyguard for shows, he had literally no effect in the history

>>52450492
This was never the point.

>>52450417
What if I used a foreign language kaladesh invention? Those certainly do not have the established art of the cards, so what is someone who doesn't know what card it is going to do? Oh, yeah, they'll just ask me and I'll tell them

>>52450516
All masterpieces are in english, even those from foreign packs.

>>52450511
What I mean is that he's a passive character, he didn't affect the story like at all, he's just there. They're going to change the shit out of the movie for him to have some importance/prominence

>>52450547
HOW IS WE SUPPOSED TO PROVE WE WAS KANGS IF YOU DON'T LET US REWRITE HISTORY SO THAT WE WUZ KANGS

>>52450547
This isn't about the history of Japan or whatever the fuck. It's ABOUT HIM. It's a personal story.

>>52450461

Williams was the only Englishman, one of his crew mates (a Dutchman) was also made Hatamoto.

>>52450210
Top right looks appropriately middle eastern
Dudes in the middle are in shadow, note the light proves an appropriately tanned skin tone
Bottom right looks someone not quite native (merchant? traveler?), there were some nubians in egyptian territories

>>52450602
So just so we're clear a lie movie about Tom Cruise is offensive and wrong because he is white but a lie movie about Nog Niggums is beautiful and poignant because it's the current year and Afro Noggins was a pet monkey that some feudal lord imported?

>>52450671
Neither is wrong.
Now stop being a close minded idiot.

>>52450692
Oh really, nothing was wrong with the Last Samurai? Every single race baiting retard/weeb shitheap would beg to differ for the last decade

>>52450702
There was a lot wrong with the last samurai, but not in the same way. I'm avoiding this pointless argument.

>>52450727
In other words it's different because this one is black. Wow, that really makes me think. *sips tea*

>>52450702
The Last Samurai was a decent movie and the titular "last samurai" were the people Tom Cruise joined, not Tom Cruise himself (samurai is the plural of samurai)

>>52449222
Which one is it? The first or the second?

>>52450753
That doesn't change the fact that retards have been throwing a shitfit about the trash samurai being historically inaccurate since the day it came out

>>52449980
how long you think til we hear about someone trying to get their opponent DQed for either "putting extra tokens" on the field "to confuse me" or for "not tapping" the exerted card?

>>52450753
I want to agree with you but the movie title was translated to singular in my first language

>>52450798
>for "not tapping" the exerted card
you're tapping the card to attack.

>>52450671
>>52450702

Most of the people complaining about the Last Samurai being about "A White Savior" haven't actually seen it.

And to be fair the Last Samurai is a super loose adaptation which switches an American in for a Frenchman and screws around with what was really happening at the time.

And Yasuke was a real person, but it's pretty likely that it's going to get the same treatment as Last Samurai did as far as saying "fuck it, who cares what actually happened". Especially if they decide to make him Muslim which is the "In Thing" right now despite the fact he was brought to Japan by Jesuits.

>>52450845
Can't wait for the only black samurai to be a muslim

>>52450826
And it's not wrong either. The titular Last Samurai were the people but particularly the bald japanese leader guy.

>>52450915
Oh.
Ok.

>>52450752
It's different because it messes up history, which a personal story about a person with minor historic aspect doesn't need to do. And which we don't yet know if this other movie will do.
Honestly though, you don't fucking care, you just don't want to see a black dude starring a stupid movie, you're fucking pathetic.

>>52450955
>making up excuses as to why it's okay when jews do it to make money off of black people but not okay when jews do it to make money off of tom cruise

Historical revisionism is historical revisionism and the sooner you marxist trash understand that it's always wrong the sooner you can join us in reality

>>52450970
Is this movie being presented as an educational documentary, or as a fictional story "based on a true story", much like The Texas Chainsaw Massacre was?

I don't even understand this obsession with someone who shares your skin color or heritage being of great historical importance.

I'm Welsh and we're known for teaching people what the difference between a wyvern and a dragon is, teaching the English how to into archery (afaik), and having a goofy language. And the fact that the only reason anyone outside of the UK knows what a "Wales" is is because of that one video of the newcaster pronouncing Llanfairpwll correctly doesn't bother me in the slightest.

>>52451105
Was the Last Samurai presented as an educational documentary or is this just another false equivalency?

>>52451187
>And the fact that the only reason anyone outside of the UK knows what a "Wales" is is because of that one video of the newcaster pronouncing Llanfairpwll correctly doesn't bother me in the slightest.
At least that's funny. The only reason anyone knows about Canada is because we're constantly besieged by beers/bears, and have the highest shitposter-per-capita ratio of any civilized nation.

>>52451236
Aw don't put yourself down like that. You're also Trumpland's hat. And you have some pretty assbackwards porn laws, though I'm not sure if someone from the UK has much room to talk in that regard.

>>52448176
Holy shiganigga, who writes the flavour of these? Games workshop?

>>52451275
>And you have some pretty assbackwards porn laws
Like what? I mean, I feel pretty unpersecuted with my porn viewing. I think you're thinking of Australia, and I'm a dude who's into shortstacks.

>>52451188
No, but this one is, at least if you take into the account the articles mentioning it

>>52451312
Kill yourself

>>52451188
Was this an irrelevant point, or is this just another poor attempt to hide the fact your only actual argument is "stop liking what I don't like"?

for the record, no Last Samurai was not, and that's why there was nothing wrong with making a movie about Tom Cruise the Samurai, just like there's nothing wrong about making a movie about some black dude, whether or not the movie is "a good film" is a totally separate, issue, and one that is purely based on each individual viewers subjective opinion to boot

>>52451318
Well, sjws do always lie

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>>52451324
Oh no, someone said something mean to me on the internet. Whatever will I do?

>>52451285
I'm pretty sure the entire point of the block is its denizen's fanatical devotion to their gods and bolas.

>>52451360
well, we're on 4chan, so "throw a tantrum like a five year old being told "no", but also try to paint yourself has morally superior for your outburst" is the usual procedure.

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>>52451423
Nice hyperbole senpai. That's a lot of words to say "I have no real comeback so hurr da derp a doo".

>>52451312
Once you're there it's fine, but a friend of mine who is a citizen ended up getting detained for "child porn" because she had pictures of herself in a swimsuit with her (American) husband on her phone. She's almost 30 but is short af. She had to call a lawyer to come defend her in detention before they'd even think about checking to make sure the pictures were actually of her.

>>52451530
Yep, definitely kill yourself.

>>52451530
Again, I think you're thinking about Australia. While we do have some childporn laws about depicting minors, as far as I'm aware, we have nothing like that. I think the key is "noticeably underage" and "depicted erotically".

>>52451566
Nah, it was Alberta, Canada Edmonton Airport. Had another friend of mine get rejected by customs and sent back to the US for an improperly filed DUI that he couldn't prove was dropped in time to meet the arbitrary deadline they set for him. He ended up missing the wedding we were there for over it. Canada is a beautiful country but that whole experience really soured me on its laws.

>Some anon posts about getting monkey paw'd by wanting aven mindcensor without the future sight format and then invocations
>Actually just in the set too
Hope you feel better now, anon

>>52450154
>It's ok to displace other races AS LONG they're not african niggers
Yeah no fuck off faggot.
t. Actual egypcian

>>52448176
This will look good in foil

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>>52450210
>one of the bro hug guy is litteraly Arnold Vosloo
>black
Damn you are a special kind of retard. Also God forbid people living in a mediterranean inspired setting to be a bit tanned.

>>52451788
You didn't understand what I said.

>>52450236
Kaladesh was Bolas' bitch and this is literally bolas.

Stop shitting yourselves over this you retards

>>52448254
Eldritch Evolution?

>>52451788
Shut up sandnigger, nobody care about your subhuman opinion.

>>52451858
I mean I'm not mad personally, now if it happens a third time in a row...

>>52450634
Do they pass the 'one drop' test?

If it's not fair-skinned, it's not white.
If it's not got blonde or red hair, it's not white.
If it's not got blue, green or at a push, hazel eyes, it's not white.
If it's not got thin lips and a small nose, it's not white.

>>52448176
This is the first nonvanilla Future Shifted card to be printed in an actual expansion set since Lorwyn and Shadowmoor blocks.
The vanilla ones don't count because their entire futureshifted thing still hasn't happened since - fullart vanilla creatures.

>>52451977
>Somehow the leaks are fake and the next block is return to mirrodin again instead of atlantis
>Hey guys we need to try and stop the phyrexians they're pretty evil
>What the fuck is this sjw shit wizards can we stop with the anti-authority already

>>52451992
>One drop test
Go back to /pol/, nigger

>>52450065
It's for the same reason there were black people on Innistrad, Zendikar, Theros, Kaladesh, Ravnica, and Mirrodin. To piss you, specifically, off.

>>52452046
>people

>>52448254
It's there to stop the Zendikar fetch lands when they're reprinted in Fancy Aztec Atlantis in winter.

>>52452057
Yes. their creature type is "human" so they're specifically people within the context of the MtG setting. Sorry, anon.

>>52452092
I really hope wotc continues with making plane-thematic masterpieces.

They could have maybe made the card name and type a bit more readable but aside from that they're amazing.

>>52452007
That wouldn't really fit the mould for me, Phyrexia is a hostile force that seized control of a land and they're not really a society there isn't enough citizens, there's like a couple of hundred of sapient Phyrexians at most.

It's not a new civilisation they're going to introduce then immediately overthrow.

>>52450210
>brown-skinned people in Egypt

Oh shit better run for fucking cover.

>>52449344
>duelist
>can fight two creatures at once
No sir I don't like it

>>52452046

Theros is the only one you can really complain about is Theros since it's so heavily tied to Greek Mythology, which in turn is tied to the ethnic group. So yeah.

>>52452142

Red Phyrexians are all sapient... course they may also be all dead so who knows?

>>52452142
It just really pisses me off when people shitpost about this, but if they even read anything about the story they're pretending to care about they'd know that the people in Ghirapur were fine with the aether distribution before Tezzeret showed up and the consulate was fine.

It's only after Tezzeret shows up and acts comically evil does the government become "bad" and rebels pop up. The story's not about anarchy it's literally just about kicking Tezzeret out and setting things back to normal, which they do.

>>52448287
fair enough

>>52451992
Egyptians aren't white.

>>52452242
They were in ancient times, but this has since been covered up by the Zionists. The victor gets to write history, so on and so forth.

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>every plane the Gatewatch goes to gets fucked up
>every plane they've been to is full of dark-skinned people

Wow Wizards, could you please stop trying to force your post-colonialist/anti-American foreign policy sentiments?
It's a children's card game FFS.

>>52452358
Anti-american? What's more American than white people riding in to save some dark-skinned people and fucking everything up?

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>>52452358
Don't forget that half of them are Nissa's fault.

She magically broke the stone without being racist, nope that was never a thing.

>>52452322
>implying the egyptian weren't alien but that have been covered by afrocentrist to make them black but that have also been covered by the nazis who said that they were white but that have also been covered by the Zionists to make egyptian brown.
Bitch you are only on 1 or 2 level of conspiracy, you need to go deeper

I'm nervous about Embalm and Exert being added into the mix considering how powerful pure agro decks are right now. Playing Control is hard enough and now there's going to be even more decks where you can't 1 for 1 reliably.

Kalitas can help mitigate some of that until he rotates out but I'm hoping we see some more exile effects, Flashback or hell, even Buyback.

>>52452437
Give me a quick rundown

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>>52452322
Egyptians were always middle easterns. They considered the world to have four races: the Themehu (above-saharan africans such as libyans, phoenicians, carthaginians etc.), the Nehesu (sub-saharan africans, e.g. nubians), the Aamu (mediterranean people, e.g. greeks), and themselves, the Reth (middle-easterners).

>>52452453
Wrangle those Exert creatures

Also fuck control.

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>>52452469

>>52452453
fuck control players

no one likes them, not even wizards

>>52451996

Nah there was that one red guy in Scars of Mirrodin block.

>>52452495

If Magic becomes nothing but Agro and Combo it's going to go to shit real fast.

>>52452167
you're thinking of a dualist

>>52452517
We've been at that point for a while.

How do you feel about midrange?

>>52452453
>control in a post-Tarkir world
>laughing_Timmies.jpg

Blue is not allowed to be good.

>>52452518
>A prearranged, formal combat between two persons

>>52452509
>>52452495
t. Midrange Babs

>>52452559
What are you, autistic?
I'm a Red 9 on the spectrum, and even I got the joke.

>>52448616

Cycling

>>52452564
fuck midrange, ramp and aggro

>>52452484
False evidence fabricated by Israel.

>>52452571
In all fairness, it wasn't a very good joke.

>>52452564
Memerange is good for the format :^)

>>52452593
I laughed. What are you trying to say about me?

>>52452580
If israel could possibly plant evidence in ancient egypt, why would they not plant proof that the israelites were enslaved and built the pyramids etc., thus justifying their heritage and existence a thousandfold?

>>52452533
>>52452553
Remind me who won PT Kaladesh again.

>>52452610
That you have shit taste in humor

>>52452564
"Tron is midrange" is my favorite meme.

>>52452571
Nozzo Naytaan is that you?

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I'm not holding on to any hope that there's gonna be a legendary wurm, but it better at least be good.

>>52452620
Wow fuck you man.

>>52452615
>rearrange his name
>Ya-koo-sa

>>52452624
So far, every legendary for tribes that are lacking legendaries has been awful or non-existent.

>>52452624

Weren't the Wurms of dominaria the remains of the losing faction in Bolas' Elder Dragon war?

does this mean the new ones are too?

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>>52452645
Wasn't ishkanah not awful.

Anyway even if it's not a legendary, it's as close to Shai'Hulud as we're gonna get, and as long as it's not completely garbage that's good enough for me.

>>52452633
calm down I'm only mucking about

>>52452663
Ishkanah got his moments in standard.

Where the fuck is bolas

>>52452697

>Ishkana
>He

>>52452201
Tezzeret's been there for some 10-15 odd years? Because Chandra was a kid in her origin story and what she was DOING was smuggling aether when her powers first started acting up. Her parents were rebels even then.

>>52452533

When does a deck exactly become defined as Midrange? I've looked at decks that are defined as it and it kind of reminds me of optimized deck lists from when I played really casually during the 90s. I mean, my Grixis deck in Standard right now primarily wins by Flashing in a Torrential Gearhulk or two after Turn 6 so does that make it a Midrange deck when the first five turns or so are just me primarly playing kill spells, counters and card draws with the occasional Liliana or Chandra if the board is safe enough?

>>52452553

Jeskai Black/Grixis White was a really fun Control-centric build once Origins hit.

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What are the odds we get another Dovin Baan this set?

Is this the worst Plainswalker ever?

>>52452797

Next set obviously.

>>52452817
I don't remember much about the origins story because origins was comically bad, but wasn't that for people who were trying to use them as "normal" magic instead of using shit to craft.

There was also the thing of Dovin saying "Yea we were kind of shitty back then but we're better now", however much of that was actually a change.

>>52452828
>Jeskai Black/Grixis White

What.

Please oh please put containment priest in this set at rare.

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>>52452833
Well we don't have any plainswalkers, but we do have planeswalkers.

>>52452484
Why couldn't the Invocations have art that looks like this, on parchment or simple stone looking borders?

>>52452697
Pretty sure Spider mom is female
(falling for obvious bait)

>>52452833
Hard to top Tibalt in wirst planeswalker.

>>52452511
I completely forgot that was even a futureshifted card.
I remembered it was in future sight, but I thought it was just a random regular card there.

>>52452893
If they made art like that but heavily referencing the old iconic art to make it instantly recognizable I think even the current borders would have worked.

>>52452904
RIP Tibalt, they just needed to remove two words.

>Not a single of the invocations is green
Snake god better be fucking good.

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Mediocre reprints as story spotlights make me think there will be way more Cycling support than usual.

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>>52452883
>Well we don't have any plainswalkers
They are extremely uncommon and bordering on useless, but there are 4.

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Also snake cats are a thing, I guess.

>>52453045
>Lightning Rift + Astral Slide + cyclelands reprint

>>52453051
Yea I was just making the same joke maro did a while ago.

>>52453070
Oh, nice.

>>52453070
IT'S OVER, BLUE IS FINISHED

>>52449339
I mean it's no thundermaw, but it would be a decent aggro finisher. 4/4 flying haste that can flame slash a dude for 5 isn't a bad deal.

>>52453070
FUCKING TIMMIES REEEEEEEEEEE

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>>52453070

>>52453070
>>52453164
Straight into all my commander decks, a bargain at 3 CMC

>>52448244
vigilance on a 3/2 might not be that valuable since it can easily be killed and won't be there to block anymore.
but the body/mana is valuable as a common

ofc we can't just fill the deck with embalm creature that cost more to embalm than what they are worth, you gotta strike for a balance.

>>52453189
You are the fucking cancer killing this game

>>52453196
t. control shitter

>>52453196
>t. Monoblue "Permission Denied" Control, Chief of Compliance

>>52453164
So the green god is called Rhonas and he's the god of strength. He can't possibly top Verdurous Gearhulk.

>>52449929
Or you run it because it's a 2/1 flash flying for 3 that happens to shut down those cards, evolving wilds, eldritch evolution, lost legacy, and mire I don't care to name. But yeah why would you want to flash in a flying creature at a reasonable mana cost?

>>52453189
I don't think it's that good in commander, but if your meta has lots of counters, then yeah, it's a no-brainer. Though at that point, I'd probably just go all-in with a FUCK BLUE commander like Ruric Thar.

>>52453189
>>52453164
on a multiplayer table it really hits only the monoblue decks and for few rounds before it eats another kind of removal

>>52453070
lol are you fucking kidding me

>>52453070
"Serpopard"

>>52453195
That's the beauty of embalm/flashback. You don't have to. It adds just that one more option.

Your deck could be all creatures that have embalm if they curve out well. Looking at a 3/2 vig for 3 at common is absolutely fine on its own without emblam. I really think that emblam isn't going to cost you an extra mana/an extra power/an extra toughness.

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>>52453070
>>52453164
>cat snake

>>52448866
>Even SJWs aren't anti-human.
postmodernist SJWs take their philosophy from martin heideggar, an anti humanist

>>52453045
Renewed Faith was played in Astral Slide.dec

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>>52453164
>Cat Snake

>>52453331
Oh, I didn't play at the time, good to know.

>>52453164

Isn't a cat snake just a ferret?

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>>52453070
The Serpopard isn't its own thing and counts as a snake while NAGA is isolated.

>>52450774
yes indeed

>>52453357
turns out doing something and drawing a card at instant speed uncounterable is actually good no matter how small the effect, and gaining life isn't nothing, just not worth a card (luckily cycling replaces itself.)

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>>52453233
>2/1 flash flying for 3 is good
Fucking.

Lel.

>>52453164
Wouldn't its neck be a huge problem while doing the run, jump, bite take-down thing?

>>52453382
I'm pretty sure that WotC acknowledges it's a mistake.

>>52453415
>bounces a creature you control

>>52453477
Wow oh nooooooooooooooo!!!!!

>>52453233
>2/1 flash flying for 3 is reasonable mana cost

Hey remember when there was a 2/3 flash flying for 3 in standard and they stapled a counterspell to it. But nah bruh this 2/1 is gonna be sickkkk I mean it shuts down

>evolving wilds

I mean some decks actually this run card

>eldritch evolution and lost legacy

Wow nobody use these cards

>and more

Wow you said this because you actually can't think of anything else

>>52453452
It runs, jumps, bites, and then wraps itself around them.

>>52453493
Self-bounce usually mitigates 1CMC of a creature's cost.

>>52453452
Snake's have very good muscular control so if it's neck/head are snake-like no.

>>52452173
Even then do you know what is right across the Mediterranean from Greece?

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Miscalculation reprint incoming I can feel it.

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>>52453452
>>52453506
>>52453526
It probably has its head arched back when running, like a cobra would when preparing to strike.

>>52453586
>counterspells in standard

Literally toxic and anti-fun

Poor Timmy would probably quit Magic if he got his Gideon, Pussy Destroyer of Amonkhet countered

>>52453560

Yes, North Africa. Not sub-Sahara Africa.

>>52453070
>>52453164

I don't like how theyve been pushing green so much in the last years while blue keeps getting shittier and shittier

>>52453613
>I can run counterspells, but you can't run cards that stop counterspells

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>>52453164
>>52453070

>Uncounterable creature that makes all your creatures uncounterable
>CMC 3
>The cheapest counters that can target creature spells in Standard are CMC 3 or more

What next: a creature that has "When an opponent plays an Island or a Blue Spell, punch them in the dick"?

>>52453586
>the art is jace getting his shit slapped by some god

>>52453650
You got Disallow literally last set

>>52453674
>implying people play islands in standard now

>>52453689
The best Cancel variant we've seen in a while is still just a Cancel variant.

>>52453674
>>The cheapest counters that can target creature spells in Standard are CMC 3 or more
Baral, Chief of Compliance can help with that.

>>52453689
Disallow is only ever played in standard

Even then it's only like a 2 of maybe in decks that even wanna be blue

>>52453724
Maybe they don't want to help blue's standing in modern/legacy/vintage because it still doesn't fucking need it?

>>52453674
>I should be able to solve literally any problem with counterspell! Counterspell should be hard removal for anything that threatens my draw-go playstyle!

>>52453753
They'll print Fatal Push though

>>52453674
Revolutionary Rebuff is 2 CMC

>>52453754
>I should be able to solve literally any problem by turning creatures sideways! Thank you MaRo for pushing this game in the right direction!

>>52453792
Tapping creatures is at least something all five colors can do.
Permission is only blue and thus should not exist as a viable archetype.

>>52453753
It kind of does need it in modern.

>>52452861
No, it was for trying to craft. Normal magic was still Not A Thing, the fact that Chandra turned out to be a mage was something else.
Though yeah, I forgot about Dovin's little line, but the fact that things didn't really seem any different at either point we've seen the plane points to it being a lie or him just spouting the party line or, even more likely, wizards fucking things up

>>52453792
Tirning creatures sideways has been the main intended way to win since oh I don't know, alpha.

New thread for new spoilers

>>52453880
>>52453880
>>52453880

>>52453792
That's how the game's been meant to be played since '93 you shit heel

>>52453792
At least turning creatures sideways at each other is more interactive than one person being countered into oblivion.

>>52453753
Blue is at an all-time low in modern.

>>52453070
> 3 mana
> for a 4/3 uncounterable that makes all your dudes uncounterable

Holy shit that's crazy

>>52448650
>one reason to play standard
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/standard-reservoir-combo-bonesaw-go-home/

I understand that everyone has boners for heart of kiran, but storm is so much fun, and I have at least 40% winrate on mtgo

>>52452828
Midrange can switch roles essentially.
It's got enough creatures to play decent aggro against slower decks, while still maintaining a high level of removal to hit decks faster than it.
It's too slow to be pure aggro, and isn't working on a few big threats like control. It falls somewhere in the middle.

You might be getting fucked with. It's more of a Modern classification because of the card pool.

>>52454316
>all-time low
You mean unplayed outside of fringe t2 midrange-with-counterspells piles. Blue was never good in modern. Wizards killed blue by banning a red card.

>>52453785
It's also a worse Mana Leak.
This isn't a Standard-specific thread you know.

>>52453785
>>52455341
Well fuck me, the guy you were responding to was retarded and you were correcting his statement.

Oh well.

>>52448616
Don't, standard is for faggots
Play modern instead

>>52450065
>>52452242
Just gonna leave this here, fascinating stuff really

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t65vXMS_Cw

>>52453072
As someone who was around when Onslaught was in Standard, I welcome this as long as Slide and Rift get renamed. When I came back and started playing EDH, I wanted to do a Slide deck so bad but Roon was a good second choice.

...just no Exalted Angel for RiftSlide. That damn thing cost an arm and a leg for a copy, let alone a playset.

>>52456401
ITS LIKE SOME KINDA GAT DAM SCIENCE SHIT SAYIN WE WUZNT KANGS!

FUCKIN RACYSTS!

>>52456558
>>52456401
Fucking racist facts amirite
>Brown woman (seemingly level headed one) marveling as she relays the info that even socialist teat-suckers in Switzerland couldn't help but conclude 50% of European men and fucking 70% of British men are related to King Tut.
>Meanwhile less than 1% of modern Egyptians have any link. And there is no mention of black people.

Y'know, the fact depictions of ancient Egypt featuring white people are met with accusations of whitewashing is profoundly ironic.

Saying Ancient Egyptians were black 'because Africa' is like saying Ancient Romans were vikings 'because Europe.'

>>52456727

You know DNA tests aside I would have fathomed that people would realise that ancient Egpytians weren't of Numidian background considering most of the art and sculpture depicting the ancient Egyptians show widely different facial features.

>>52453715
How? How does Baral help here at all?