Warhammer 40k General /40kg/

>>52428114
You're literally only getting interceptor against units that arrive withing 12" of Coteaz and whatever unit he's joined so it's not nearly as useful as you think. His re-rollable seize is really the only real benefit.

Personally I'd keep the knight to give your opponent something other than your skitarii to shoot at for a few turns. Don't forget they get a 4++ from their ion shields, yea it's directional but it's not hard so long as you position the knight with even a bit of thought.

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This is a Sisters of Battle/Slaanesh thread!

anyone here got mega link for 40k novel?

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>>52428175
Look at all this non vehicle shit that has Objective Secure now!

Torquemada Coteaz is mandatory in this formation.

I love Orks.

But

I don't love their rules.

I doubt 8th could make them worse than they already are.

>>52428188
Except he's not taking Castellans, he's taking a Skitarii maniple with Coteaz as an ally. He'll need another HQ unit before he can even take Castellans.

How viable would CSM terminators with all lightning claws be?

>>52428188
What's this "free wargear" bullshit I hear about the Castellans detachment?
Am I the only one who thinks that being able to mix factions freely like this is stupid?

>>52428199

Even if it makes us worse, our position at the bottom of the tiers doesn't change. If it makes other armies even worse, we improve. If we get better rules, we improve.

8th quite literally can't make us worse. We either maintain the status quo, or get better.

>>52428222
You apparently can't hear, the Castellans doesn't give free wargear. You're thinking of the AdMech War Convocation.

In the hellrain formation am i allowed to upgrade the commissar to a lord commissar?

>>52428222
Confusing it with really broken shit as war combo and marine free transports.

In Castellans you pay for everything. The formation is basically a massive double CAD.

>>52428209
On that case he is retarded. A normal inquisitor will do and then add 18 point psykers from Inquisition codex.

>>52428227
Oh.
Never mind then. Those two sound the same to me. I wish 8th went back to a single force org chart and an allied org chart.

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>>52428177
I second this notion

>>52428242
How does "War Convocation" sound anything like "Castellans of the Imperuim"

>>52428242
Blame GW, the rulebook is rather unclear how things works and their FAQ contradict the rules and other FAQ some times.
Hell even the rulebook contradict it self just look at template weapons.

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>>52428177

>>52428268
I group them both in the "stupid formation shit that was added while I wasn't looking" -folder.

>>52428188
This is just a really shitty version of Vraks Renegades: Unending Host that lets your infantry squads that number 15 or greater come back to the board outflanking on a roll of 2+ with bonus movement.

Taken with a renengade baneblade all of your units get zealot anyway.

I don't think the resurrected units even give VP.

>>52428281

It's a Detachment.
Formations require specific units from codices.

>>52428322
But you can make an army out of a formation, so what the fuck is the difference?

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>>52428177

I've always wanted to make an army of custodes. How do i get the most out of this fucking anemic codex?

>>52428346
Wait for more releases really.

>>52428199
8th will make orks decent again
The charging rules bemefits fast shit like Stormboys and Warbikes

>>52428346
1) Take a unit of Custodes
2) ???
3) Army

>>52428333

You can't add Coteaz to a formation to make every non-vehicle obsec.

>>52428333
The rules are. You tard.

>>52428346
Add in the 30k units?

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>>52428177

>>52428351

I'm not ready for 8th edition Orks.
Our resident Ork player already has 15 bikes, Zhadsnark and at least 3 mek guns in every list.

>>52428179
Black library mega
https://mega.nz/#F!wx4BiKhD!YhnAf1BqSmAB8dO6xDM56Q

>>52428403
cancer

Fuck it. I'm going to write up a list for this.
>>52428319
Maybe you guys will still be alive to critique when I'm done

>>52428434
I wish there was more audiobooks. All the books I'm interested in either don't have audiobook versions or aren't provided in the mega. :/

With Shadow War, I might get back to this game again. Nothing like using normal infantry again, even terminators seem kickass with the 2nd edition rules.

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>>52428471
I'm excited for it, but at the same time I'm worried that it will be super unbalanced.

The group I play with tends to gravitate towards trying to stop other players from having fun instead of playing for fun.

>>52428494
Well, it makes sense, there's only a certain amount of fun in the world, and you want to stockpile as much as you can for yourself, so you really should try to stop others from having fun as much as you can so you can have more fun later with your stockpiled fun. Life is war.

>>52428494
Necromunda, Mordheim, Blood Bawl, Battlefleet Gothic, where never balanced.

Balance in GW was never a thing, because it was never meant to be play at tournament setting.

>>52428468
Theres also nothing from after sept 2015 i think but ah well

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I wanna start building a imperial guard army. How should i start?

>>52428553
what kind of imperial guard army do you want? lots of vehicles, arty, scions?

the start collecting boxes are almost always a good start.

>>52428553

Start Collecting box, Armored Fist box, then a hundred more guardsmen.

>>52428553
Learn to love monotony

Got caught shoplifting at my lgs so I have been trying ones on the other side of my city. One I went to today is very mom and pop style, I dont think they even have security cameras or anything and the guy that runs it is old af. Going to go in for a game but bring an extra big carry case to see what I can stuff inside behind my minis

>>52428506
Same as happiness. Not everyone can be happy, since we need others to be unhappy so we know we are happy.

In other words we need others to joy and suffer in order for us to joy and suffer.

>>52428572
Kys poorfag

>>52428572
instead of stealing from a store that probably isnt making much money at all

why not neck yourself?

>>52428572
Stealing from the poor. Are you black or a politician?

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>>52428512
True, but I mean relatively even. There's no acceptable reason for one faction to just beat the pants off of pretty much all the others.

>>52428506
Yeah, the best way to get your friends to keep playing the game is to spam the most unfun to fight units and factions against them!

>>52428588
Friendship is a lie enforced by the government to attempt to make us better sheep. Men are not pack animals, we are apex predators and should comport ourselves as such.

>>52427982
unless you're doing it for fluff reasons I'd be inclined to switch the infantry missiles for Heavy Bolters or Auto Cannons and replace the Heavy Bolter weapon team with Lascannons or Missile launchers. That should give you a better chance of actually hurting your targets without wasting orders and firepower.
I'd also scratch the plasma guns on the PCSs and replace with flamer, grnade launcher or heavy weapons team. Use the left over point to give another special weapon to your scions (I'd go two melta)
Nothing else is glaring out at me

>>52428599
You're a weird one.

>>52428585
>>52428584
>>52428590
'tis a troll.

>>52428599
k

>>52428599
?

What the hell just happen? Mods deleted the happiness post and we have double post too?

>>52428218
In a World Eaters army could be viable, all those movement shenanigans could get them into combat potentially on turn one.

>>52428572
You're either an idiot or a troll.
They look out for people like you, especially people that are new. You have to build a report before you even think of doing something like that. They assume people they've never seen before are there to steal.
I went to a GW for more than a decade and the redshirts/blackshirts all stole. They gave me around 30k points of 40k/Fantasy. The only reason this ever worked was because the inventory system for GW is/was so fucking stupid. They never inventoried anything aside from the last product, meaning they would have to order more. You can take mental inventory of shit that has no reason being bought but in a small store like that you can count on them keeping tabs. They'll keep tabs on what you come in with and what you leave with. If you have a school bag that you didn't open the entire time you were in there they WILL assume you're stealing.
Stop being a fucking idiot and get a job. At the very least "steal" from GW directly by purchasing recasts, not an LGS.

>>52428566
One with tons of guardsmen

>>52428232
fraid not. I think that's answered in the Scions FAQ

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>>52428637
>f you have a school bag that you didn't open the entire time you were in there they WILL assume you're stealing.

mfw this happened to me the first time i went into my LGS but it was full of medical gear for me

>>52428667
Why the fuck are you stealing medical supplies from an LGS anon

I hope you got arrested scumbag

>>52428676
I have a fetish for apothecaries im sorry i just want to drown in a pool of narcethiums

>>52428681
Well as long as you got off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kissyaizilo

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>>52428637
Na I get plenty

>>52428715
Thanks for leaving the location in the image

>>52428715
Please go back to 8ch@n with the rest of the banned and degenerates and stop shitting up our threads

Is their any good army builders besides battlescribe? 2.0 is pissing me off because I went and paid for premium.

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I wonder how 8th will effect my list, which has almost been unchanged since 5th

>>52428741
Skimmers/bikes/jink will get nerfed I can guarantee you.

>>52428737
>battlescribe
if you paid for premium before 2.0 you can get a 1000 year lisence for free if you can find the key you use

>>52428755
I paid on my amazon account, I didn't get a license.

>>52428745
Oh god I hope they do.

The main army I face is Ravenwing Black Knight spam and it is so unfun. Rerollable 2+ or 3+ on everything just ruins the game.

>>52428741
jink will probably be nerfed but you got venoms so eh.

i think the list will be mostly fine.

>>52428745
>Eldar will be even more OP due to movement and wep changes
I doubt it lad

Have Abaddon started full scale invasion toward Terra yet?

I mean since the Cadian Gate gone Chaos can spit out daemons and CSM as much as they want. How far have they got to?

>>52428572
It's the baitposter again ignore it

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>>52428773
>created one of the most enduring lists for one of the most brittle armies

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>>52428774
>Thinking I'd just let Eldar lose?

6e had Wave Serpents, 7e had Bikes and Wraithknights. What will be Eldar cheese for 8e?

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>>52428177

>>52428755
Is this true, or trolling? I have an old premium. How does it work?

>>52428780
Parts of the Crusade got to Maccarage where they've stalled. Some managed to follow Guilliman and friends through a webway portal to the Moon where they got roflstomped

>>52428770
>>52428773
>Turbo Boosting/Flat Out has a chance of mishap
Thoughts?

>>52428818
Assuming AoS style rules?
Army wide Run+Shoot, movement will be 6" plus v guardsman 4" AND even their most basic weapons will be Rend -1 weapons, with D being -3

>>52428818
Wraith Guard, calling it now

>>52428836
Why aren't they going to Terra straight?

Destroy Terra and it would be all over. Why waste time? Imperium plot armor?

>>52428841
I'm tired of rules that make soldiers and Warrior incompetent retards

>>52428836

Isn't maccrage on the opposite side of terra from the eye?

>>52428893
>moving faster than cruising speed over a battlefield
It kinda makes sense.

>>52428879
Not really, Chaos requiere plot armour to do anything. It is just GW incompetence regarding bad guys.

They had to re write Armless the Harmless and pull the "muahaha it was the Pylons all along" to make him not look like a failure.

Can webway portal be opened anywhere? Or there has to be a physical structure?

>>52428907
Not really.

Having a 1/6 chance to crash with your trained troops in said way of movement sounds hilariously incompetent.

>>52428879
IIRC the Crimson Path suggests that Abbadon is waiting for he Eye of Terror to expand closer to Terra to get all of the logistical and esoteric tactical advantages, otherwise the Imperium would just wither his crusade to dust. The only reason why they got to Macragge is because Abbadon sent them there to stop Guilliman's return.

>>52428741
>not having your list unchanged since 3rd
boats > venoms

Creed vs Macharius, who is the better Imperial General?

>>52428898
Webwayed from Cadia to Maccrage, then Maccrage to Terra

>Tabletop Dark Eldar finally shown in fluff.
>Celestine uses an Archon with Webway Portal to Deep Strike near Maccrage, then the Rowboat uses another Archon with Webway Portal to get to Terra

>>52429002
Creed was better at smaller scale tactics, Macharius was better at larger scale strategies.

>>52429007
technically they only webwayed into ultramar, and had to call up the Ultramarine taxi service to get to macragge

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EXTRA THICK

>>52428831
if you go to the subscribe section on the site, somewhere it lets you link your old key to a google account

i did and now i (think) i have an unlimited subscription, it said 1000 years

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>>52428907
I don't think it would be that bad if:

1. Their saves aren't rerollable.

2. They don't get free movement. It makes sense for a tank to ignore dangerous terrain but a bike shouldn't. If anything it should be MORE dangerous to them.

3. You can jink to ONE thing. You don't get to jink to EVERYTHING. So it requires some thought instead of, "Oh they're shooting at me? I'll just jink everything this round."

I'm thinking about collection Mechanicum as a second army, starting as a allied force. What unit should I get first?

>>52429011

Wasn't old Mach Daddy a very capable small scale tactican as well? I swear he utterly shamed the living shit out of some DE and all but crushed them.

>>52428353
Okay step 1.
take a unit of Custodes guardian Squad.
Step 2.
Nominate the Shield Captain as your General.
Step 3.
Start rolling dice to determine game time and deployment, because step 2 was all you needed. Though likely you will need to fill out points by adding more custodians or custard dreadnoughts or anything like that.

>>52429007

>even in fluff the dark kin are just a taxi service

>>52429056
He was a very capable small-scale tactician, both Creed and Macharius are excellent strategists and tacticians, but Creed seems to have a light edge in the latter while Macharius is much better at the former.

>>52428898
you are right.... um so I guess Abaddon knew about the Guiliiman thing and sent a chunk of his fleet to Maccarage in advance and that no-one thought this was important enough to mention previously because reasons.

>>52428232
Pretty sure you can as in the mt codex the lord commisar is an upgrade but in the am codex he is a seperate hq

>>52429007
>Webwayed from a moon kind of near Cadia to Ultramar, them Maccarage to the fucking MOON!
fix't for you

>>52429099
Or that warp travel from Terra takes weeks instead of years as it has been stablish in the lore.

Gathering Storm books manage to change nothing while raping everything.

>>52428737
Yea

Microsoft Excel

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>>52429033
>mfw ultramar is the name of a gas station chain in canada
who the fuck thought it would be a good idea
oh wait

>>52429148
Warp Travel has always been travel at the speed of plot.

>>52429156
ultramar's old school, man

being upset at stupid names in 40k of all places is silly

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1850 Renegades & Heretics: Vraks Renegade Unending Host

HQ
Renegade Command Squad
Arch Demagogue, master of the horde, covenant of nurgle, 4x Disciples
chimera, flamers

Troops
Renegade Infantry Platoon
20x PCS, Demagogue, x3 melta, sigil, meltabombs, militia training
20x Infantry Squad, x3 plasma, sigil, militia training
20x Infantry Squad, x3 plasma, sigil, militia training

Renegade Infantry Platoon
20x PCS, Demagogue, x3 melta, sigil, meltabombs, militia training
20x Infantry Squad, x3 plasma, sigil, militia training
20x Infantry Squad, x3 plasma, sigil, militia training

Renegade Infantry Platoon
20x PCS, Demagogue, x3 melta, sigil, meltabombs, militia training
20x Infantry Squad, x3 flamer, sigil
20x Infantry Squad, x3 flamer, sigil

20x Plague Zombies

6x Renegade Sentinels, autocannons, camo netting, militia training

Lords of War
Renegade Baneblade, militia training

That took forever.
Essentially the baneblade granting zealot is bubblewrapped by infantry squads that return to the opposing side of the board outflanking with extra movement on a 2+
The infantry squads grant each other cover saves. I don't see my infantry squads not being able to get to where they need to be every single game.
Should I make room for heavy weapons teams?

>>52429148
Well it seems more to be that warp travel is weird and sometimes unpredictable. I pretty sure the space-hulk rule-book and 2nd ed one both mention instances of ships arriving before they left and of ship reappearing centuries after they had been presumed lost with the crew being none the wiser

>>52429178
Well to me this is like if they named a region of the imperium 7/11

>>52429156
This must be bait.

>>52428471
So do I. And the Mechanicus terrains look great.

I actually going to help my shop paint them for the actual release, the manager orderes the whole lot of them. Interestingly enough, even though he doesn't may for them (being a GW shop) he still has to explain why he's ordering them before the release, show them proofs that it is in the shop and whatnot.

>>52429211
>>52429166
I know that. It was just way to obvious specially when they had raging warp storm all over the place

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Bit offtopic but where do i go with this stuff around here or should i fuck off to /v/?

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¿Does anyone have a HQ version of this pic?

I would honestly pay GW for an extra large print of this outstanding piece of art

>>52429118
No
They webwayed to macragge then went in ships fighting around ultramar
Then they headed galactic west towards Terra yet somehow ended up in the maelstrom
They then got caught and left their prison blackstone fortress by webway leaving their ships (including a Gloriana class) behind

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Who else is mentally preparing for the 'Plastic Thunderhawk' hints and rumours to just be an elaborate april foolsday joke ?

>>52429312
hah! I was just writing an update to that one cause forgot about the BSF and silly warp hijinks
you got there first, good job

>>52429210
Can a renegade pcs really have 20 models to in the command squad?

>>52429226
>>52429166
>>52429211
It's hinted they can speed stuff up by going into deep currents but it kills navigators
Also the will of the emperor on certain cases or of the dark 4

>>52429275
You should save yourself the despair and give up altogether.

>>52429323
>announce something major at a massive event
>week later
>hahahaha it was just a prank bro
If it's not actually on April 1 it is not a joke. Otherwise we can and will get people who think making jokes 4 months early is ok.

>>52429351
This is GW. We have no idea how retarded they can get.

>>52429339
Not only that, but the average speed seems to depend on the skill of the Navigator and the tools at hand. Though there's a certain level of random number input that can't be stopped, a really top-tier Navigator with an Archaeotech Spire and interface with a small council of assistants can usually get to places faster and safer than the average Nobilite Scion.

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What will you guys play in Shadow Wars?

>>52429366
marines, so I can live my sexual fantasy of 2D6 armor save terminators again

>>52429335
Yep, RAW they're just an infantry squad with all benefits. Denoted as PCS for not additional cost.

>>52429366
Deathwing if there's an option to (mostly because there was an old comic about a Deathwing member returning to his original hive world and fucking up a genestealer cult)

>>52429366
Techpriest and his Skitarii cohort. Ave Deus Mechanicus and all that.

>>52429366
Orks!

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What real life tank is the wyvern based off of?
The Chimera?
The Leman Russ?
Vendette/Valkyrie?
Basilisk?

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>>52429366
Cultists

>>52429366
What are the armies?

From the leaks I saw the below, but from Skitarii leaks they get a couple "Elites" and I dunno if the below are true "armies" or "Elite" choices for others

>AdMech:
Skitarii Rangers (which includes Ruststalkers, Enginseers, Infiltratiors)

>Chaos:
Chaos Space Marines
Cultists

>Eldar:
Dark Eldar Wyches
Dire Avengers
Eldar Guardians
Harlequin Troupe

>Necrons:
Necron Immortals
Necron Warriors

>Orks:
Ork Boyz

>Imperium:
Grey Knights
Space Marine Scouts
Guardsmen

>Tau:
Pathfinder Team

>Tyranids & Genestealers:
Tyranid Warrior Brood
Neophyte Hybrids

>>52428319
It's a balanced version of some shitty fake army that is soon to be unplayable, as it should be.

>>52429468
>fake
Uh?

Although I have the same fear with my Charcharodons. Being FW stuff, their rules risk being unadapted to the new edition, you never know. Hope it won't be the case.

>>52429447
No Inquisition or SoB?

Hope this is an incomplete list otherwise this is absolute trash.

>>52429468
Are you poor?

>>52429366
If Thousand Sons (or maybe Tzeentch daemons) are available, definitely those. If not, I guess I'll have to pull out my old Crons.

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>>52429366

Militarum™ Tempestus™ Tempestus™ Scions™ Primes™

Hey, eldar cheese anon inspired me, let's play a game
>What is your faction or the faction you hate the most ?
>What will be their cheese in 8ed ?

I'm a CSM which hates Tau hard af
Chaos cheese will be psychic, as usual, and also keeping most of his allies because they make sense.
Tau cheese will be keeping their stupid markerlight/overwatch shenanigans, but somehow improved because "lol we modified charges and movement so now we make shooting more stronk"

>>52429468
>Renegades are finally worth fielding over IG
WAHH YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY VALUE TO YOUR BASE BS2 SHITTY LD GUARDSMEN WITHOUT ARMOR

YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY VALUE TO AN IG ARMY THAT DOESN'T HAVE ORDERS

I agree that rapier lasers, quad mortars and zombies are all terribly undercosted but how many armies have better, more survivable units that are WAY undercosted?
R&H don't even have good dependable fucking psykers. You'll always bitch about something so play a better fucking army.

>>52429520
From what we've seen, the guys seem to be keen on helping out assault/CC armies. It's been known for a long time that shooting armies are advantaged. I don't see them pushing that way by making them even better while also tring to help CC armies.

>>52429428
Despite every idiot with no idea of how tanks work claiming the leman Russ is a Mark V with a turret in top, the leman russes closest real-life contemporary is the Char 1 Bis. Note the Char 1 has a turret and a hull mounted gun just like any Russ variant, but a Mark V has neither such weapon; instead relying entirely on sponsons which many leman russes don't even take. Also note that while all three tanks have tracks looping over the entire body, only the Mark V's tracks are sloped all the way forward. The Char and Russ both have their front most track runners double back in themselves inhibiting their ability to cross trenches.

The chimera is much more generic, but could be called a space BMP that holds way more infantry then it has any right too. The artillery pieces are compatible to any self-propelled howitzer from ww2

>>52429366
What's even the story behind this game? Why are there so many different major factions present on a hive world in small numbers?

>>52429366
Daemons! Or i guess CSM if i can't do that.

>>52429548
can't guard also have rapiers and quad mortars at more or less the same price?
40pts rapier and 50pts quad launcher/heavy mortar

>>52429577

Just because they are providing rules for all factions doesn't mean all are present in the story, lord autismo

>>52429589
I don't think guard can get rapier lasers, and only get quad mortars through Kriegers

For a battery of 3 rapiers with max crew and militia training it's 79 points.

>>52429590
Normally games tend to just include the factions that fit with the plot, so i thought it was a fair assumption they must have been shoehorned in there.

>>52429601
so is IA1 redundant now then?
I always get a bit confused with "latest rules" rules. Does AM 6th ed overrule all IA12nd units or only the ones in AM 6th ed book?

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When is a scheme lazy, vs minimalist?

>>52429647
They said plenty of times it was made to be used like Necromunda. It's not a one off game like the BaC or BoP ones. It's a whole proper system.

>>52429654
That edges toward lazy because they didn't highlight the crevices.

>>52429548
Part of the advantage is daemon allies.

>>52429667

>IG complaining that R&H get daemon allies
> Is part of imperium ally circus

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>>52429666
I'll let Stevie boy know

>>52429514
This
With random radio chatter in the background, for ambience of course
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgBBmyF-1sQ

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>>52429654

>not going beyond the base colours stage of painting is now called 'minimalist'

>>52429654
Base, layers, edge highlights and limited wash is minimalist, anything less without proper justification is lazy.

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Is there any shorter version of core rules in mega links than 412-pages one?

>>52429667
Sure you could take a Kairos CAD with Renegades allies. Your opponents were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY-pUxKQMUE

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>>52429706
>>52429709
A friend just wanted some feedback, personally i'm just happy he wants to get shit painted before fielding his list

>my WIP herald and 2 PBs

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>>52429366
Tau probably

>>52429210
That must have costs a fortune to build!

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>>52428177
Hey, seriously, why are the Sororitas always corrupted by Slaanes?
Both fanworks and canon depictions have the rare fallen Sororitas fall for Slaanesh.
Are the Sisters of Battle easier prey for Slaanesh?
Perhaps due to their emphasis on their body form, with armor that is made to evoke the female form, or maybe their rituals could lead to Slaanesh corruption, even if they don't have any kind sexual ritual (which I think some of them do) they still could be corrupted through more common self-mortification rituals.
If their faith fails them for a momment and they lose the Emperor's protection, Slaanesh would easily get them be it through pleasure or through pain, even both

It would be interesting to see them fall for Tzeentch or Khorne, or even, Emperor have mercy on us, see them fall for Nurgle.
Chaos undivided would be also interesting.

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>>52429839

>csm cultists
>fortune to build

>>52429840
No, there's no deeper fluff meaning. Writers and fans just do it because 'lol, girls go to the sex god'

Besides, Chaos sisters don't really add anything interesting. They're defined by their outstanding faith in the Emperor and being girls in power armor.

If you want Chaos girls in power armor, just have cultists find some.

>>52429840
Excess of devotion is a short way to slaanesh. Also horny nerds.

>>52429366
Arbites. (Scions rules.)

>>52429840

> why are the Sororitas always corrupted by Slaanesh?

Because it's lazy, sordid and titillating.

>>52429366
Probably Tau. I've got quite a few Pathfinders kitted out.

>>52429876
They're a swarm army with models that aren't THAT cheap. It gets excessive fast.

>>52429045

This makes Dark Eldar actually unplayable.

Also, if you think Deldar don't have the capacity to do a 360noscope while cork screwing their raider and doing 4 lines of space cocaine, you're sadly mistaken.

>>52429946
just the way I like it

>>52429724
>Literally blind
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4104995/Games/7edRef.pdf

Next time, check harder; it's not in the MEGA links.

>>52428715
If I showed this to my AP manager she'd go ballistic.

How many points should it cost to swap the Autocannon on a Chaos Predator with a Blastmasters?

I want to homebrew some ways to take Sonic weaponry on more units and vehicles for my force, but I'm not sure on pricing.

>>52430041

What is that?

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>>52430006
But Anon - I didn't ask for reference sheets. I asked about digital version of pic related which is 208 pages in paper

>>52430061
You know those clear plastic security boxes, black wires with the big circles, and the pegs that have the locks at the end you have to get an employee to go find a manager to open? Those are magnetic keys for them. For reference that's more than we have in our whole super center store.

>>52429366

Wych cult for sure. That will no doubt be my primary Shadow army.

>>52430066
Ah yes, it's also there but you'll have to find that one yourself. At least not the third link.

seems like there is alot of trans people in this hobby, nothing against that but i think iv seen more trans than females

>>52430066
Its in op.
https://mega.nz/#F!9NchGZyZ!-V1LhJALxDp9Tw97WzEQGA!BJ0wwaKK

>>52429657
Necromunda, a specific setting where the factions are all gangs resident in the hive city rather than huge warring megapowers from elsewhere.
Whatever it doesn't matter. I enjoyed Necromunda in the past and I'm sure this system will be fun even if I find the fluff of it jarring.

>>52429839
Given they're starter set cultists it's not all that expensive.

>>52430099
>Alot
Relative to what? If 1% of wh40k gamers are girls and 2% of men are transgender there's still more transgenders than girls.

Also, no idea where you're from but I'm pretty sure it's a local thing.

>>52430104
Hope is the first step...

>>52429275

There used too be a /vg/ thread, but that stopped.
Any kind of legitimate discussion on /v/ never lasts long.
At least you chose best faction.

>>52430101
Anon, you gave me a link to 412 page version - the one I have. Please, read posts >>52429724

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>>52428155

So I looked up the social media of various BL authors.

>one of them praises a female mexican marine
>one assuring what appears to be a dyke with coloured hair that there is no boobplate in his warhammer book
>another reblogs pictures of marines kissing each other

So these are the guys in charge of 40k's lore...

>>52428346
Play 30k.

>>52429703
You know what would be awesome? Get a tiny Bluetooth speaker and put it in a taurox with lights or something while playing that. Only problem is finding a Bluetooth speaker that small.

>>52430190
welp then I guess you'll just have to go to the shop and buy it.
Do us a favour and make us a scan once you've got it

>>52430208
so?

>>52430216
It would be easier to have a MP3 player inside.

>>52430208
I told you guys many times before. Your space marine fantasy """""brotherhood""""" is super gay. I can't believe you guys mistook this shit for being straight when this is obviously a gay man's fantasy turn real.

GW

Gays and Women

>>52430208
You are trying way to hard to see something that only exists in your persecution complex, anon.

>>52430233
More expensive, however.

>>52430284
You can get those shit for like 2 dollars, 5 in my third world country.

>>52430266

It's manly gay though. Not literally gay. There's a big ass diff'

>still no jes goodwin design video for the cypher/gman/knightman models
warhammerTV please stop blueballing me

>>52430104

Different anon, but I'm looking at it like this. If SM are there, obviously there's some shit going down in this hive, but you can come up with a fluff reason for everything.

>Guard
Patrolling IDF

>Sisters
Small unit of shrine guard

>Inquisition
Literally dark heresy

>Chaos
Cultists and shit

>Daemons
Cultists summoning shit

>CSM
Looking for the relic the cultists used

>Eldar
Looking for the same relic

>Dark Eldar
Brought the band of eldar
Now gathering slaves

>Marines
Fighting surface war against Orks
Sent team down to investigate possible shit above

>orks
Fighting surface war against Marines or just mercenaries

>nids
Released by deldar beastmasters for fun
Also GSC

This was just a quick off the top of my head, but I think I'm going to expand on it for our campaign world.

So now that we've seen the rules partially is safe to buy 4 valks?

>>52430293
I'm just staying that's the same kind of thought process that people have when they are banging boys dressed up as girls.

>It's not -that- gay, they look vaguely like women!

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>EH YO HE DINDU NUFFIN DAWG

-Chaos spergs

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>>52430301
Same, also where is Gathering Storm Companion book?

>>52430047
Consult 3.5 dex

I believe the main gun was 30, and the sponsons are probably 20 each

>>52429760
These look passable, just dry the skin a lighter green and finish the metal.

No one demands brilliant painting, but if you're gonna bother you might as well get slightly past the basecoat+wash phase

Good to hear you and your paint bother to paint anything, people at my lgs just play grey shit all day long

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>>52430208
>>one assuring what appears to be a dyke with coloured hair that there is no boobplate in his warhammer book

the second they start injecting their SJW cancer into the fluff all the recent players that gw have lured will leave. they like the emperor, the little fluff that is on the back of the rulebook is what they want settingwise. GW needs to be weary tho, these people just cant help themselves they HAVE to inject this shit into everything they touch.

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>>52430333
>Buying models purely based on rules and not because you want them

>>52430339
>banging boys dressed as girls
>not gay
Nigga that is gay as fuck and I say that as someone who fucks primarily cute boys dressed as girls, they're just better

>>52429989
I would be absolutely furious

I just started playing Deldar and they're so goddamn fun. I don't even win much but I get to make my friends upset during that time.

>>52430382
see
>>52430270

>>52430400
I think you misunderstood my post.
>Nigga that is gay as fuck
That is what I am saying. The greentext was to point out how silly the thought process is.

>>52429351
Real prank would be fore FW to make a resin cast of the old metal thunderhawk and put it up on their site as the "new" thunderhawk with an increased price.

Thinking of starting a new army, still not a super experienced player. I was thinking of Tau or Grey Knights.

Is a Paladin based Grey Knight army with Drago any good? I hear that they also don't require a lot of models, that's a selling point for me.
How hard is it to build a Tau army and is the "Start Collecting" set worth getting? Are spamming riptides the only way to make a strong Tau army? I'm not a fan of spamming big models.

I started with Eldar and I was incredibly overwhelmed with all my options before I built my army around aspect warriors. I like my Eldar but my club already has a lot of them and I don't know if I really enjoy them that much. Finally how hard are GK and Tau to paint? I don't get a lot of time to paint.

Asked a thread or two ago but interested in some more thoughts.

I want to run some Tau allies for my Orks for friendly games (where we ignore ally chart and such) pretty much just to be able to run rail rifle broadsides (honestly my favorite looking model in the game). Keeping in mind they're going to be used for my Ork allies mostly, is it better to give them the plasma rifles or just keep the smart missile system (would probably magnetize them anyway, but still)?

p.s. Is it worth it to give them the full compliment of missile drones?

p.p.s What kind of support systems should I use? I know fuck all when it comes to building Tau except what the rules let them bring. I haven't even played against one.

Buttfucker special formations otw in the next 3 months - you get VPs for allying in imperial factions and then killing them
http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332527-the-hunt-leaked-image-of-a-new-campaign-book/#entry4698408

>>52429840
Too righteous to be corrupted by tzeentch
Too pure to be corrupted by nurgle
Not violent enough to be corrupted by khorne
Slaanesh isn't just the god of sex, he's the god of pleasure, and he prays on personal traits. You have a vice? Slaanesh knows about it. You love something that's considered wrong? Slaanesh doesn't mind.

Khorne wants blood
Tzeentch wants control
Nurgle wants despair
Slaanesh just wants to see you fall from Grace, and what target is better than the SoB

>>52430400
They event to fuck my fat ugly self for nothing in return!
Qt traps are the best. All though they burn quickly and the "qt trap" doesn't last very long.

>>52430313
I'd have always loved a Cult game, where you're Redemptionists, Chaos Cultists, Genestealer Cultists, Greater Good Cultists, or Digganobz where you try to sway the Hive to your faith.

>>52430450
>Is a Paladin based Grey Knight army with Drago any good?
Competitively? Not since 5e, which makes me sad. It was both fluffy and could hit the table.
>How hard is it to build a Tau army and is the "Start Collecting" set worth getting?
It's not "hard", you simply need to understand you will have to get a variety of models, they are a very combined arms type of army.
>Are spamming riptides the only way to make a strong Tau army?
No, that's memery. Riptide/Stormsurge spam make people want to not play you, and you can still have a competitive army without either of them.

>>52430313
HOWEVER! It doesn't explain how they got onto the planet. It's a heavily defended one with an active warzone.

>>52430498
New to CWE player here, how can I do the same but for CWE? Avoid Scatbikes and Warithguard/blades/knight?

>>52430339
No that other anon is right, being gay is perfectly fine as long as you aren't a fag about it. William Dafoe in boondocks saints is how real men be gay.

>>52430450
If you go for GK then at least you won't be accused of being a WAACfag. Those days are two editions behind us :^)

Paladin-wing suffers from have very few models, but can do alright. And GK don't have to be hard to paint :

>Spray with Leadbelcher
>Blue shade
>Paint stabby bits blue with white edges
>Done

>>52430450
Kaldor Draigo's shiny dozen is no longer a viable tactic unfortunately.

As for Tau, stop getting memed on with Riptide spam. Tau are immensily viable without riptide usage an done of the strongest armies on the board.

Long story short, want to win games and be seen as That Guy? Tau.

Want to have a fluffy army that's only good against deamons? Grey Knights.

>>52430450
Tau is one of the easiest armies to build. Unless you actively try to make a bad list by spamming Ethereals, Vespid and Kroit or something weird, you'll be totally fine.

Getting the Start collecting and armored assault box will give you a great baseline for an army.

>>52430518
Pick a different codex. The local veteran (since 2nd edition) eldar player tried really, really hard to build an army that was fun to play against.

He no longer plays 40k.

>>52430522
There's nothing wrong with being a fag about it either. Being gay isn't a bad thing. However, pretending your aggressive homo space fantasy isn't a homo space fantasy is something that deserves mocking.

>>52430382
>they HAVE to inject this shit into everything they touch.
this thread has been /Pol free all day, you two decided to cancer it up. Fuck off back to /Pol you snivelling cuntweasel

Is there any fluff for how good anti-forging safeguards are in 40k?

Like, obviously the punishment would be horrific if caught, but until you get caught what's keeping you from making a fake Warrant of Trade, or ever an Inquisitorial Rosette?

>>52430518
Imo, having a strong assortment of aspect warriors and guardians can make for a fun game where both sides can use many methods to get stuck in.
Footdar is strong enough to be a challenge, and not so overwhelming to be a slog, so long as you don't spam warp spiders/scorpions as some do.

>>52430559
There's actually a lot of things wrong with being a fag about it. If two men wanna fuck that's alright with me, but when they start doing the winged dildo parade shit that's a bit much. And the gay dude who pounds ass isn't as gay as the gay dude who gets his ass pounded

>>52430571
The fact that the Inquisition would have a word with you.

You can imagine how if some one has enough knowledge of them to know what their seal looks like that they also know what the outcome is.

>>52430571
They all have advanced safety features like holograms, DNA identification and others.

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Can anybody help me please

I would like to build an iron hands list using as many dreads as possible. I'm really unsure how to go about this, and which rules or supplements I need to acquire. I have battlescribe on my phone but I'm confused about how all the different rules work together.

Thanks for amy help

>>52430498
I'm running a Tau army that makes zero use of Monstrous Creatures. Just Fire Warriors, Broadsides, Crisis Suits, Drone blobs, Pathfinders and Hammerheads. I have great hopes for its efficiency, because I am to show the local RipTard that Tau don't need unkillable shit in order to win reliably.

>>52430458
Plasma might be better overall for going after similar targets to the rifle. It suffers for range, but you don't really want to be shooting the rail rifle and smart missiles at the same sort of targets.

Missile drones are very nice for their points, though they can inflate the price of the squad. They're better for missilesides, but its still a steal compared to any of the other drones.

Support systems are trickiee, but for broadsides there are some clearer options. Stim injectors are nice to supplement the armor and whatever cover you stick them in. The precision shot system can be nice on a Shas'vre to be sniping models on a 5 or 6.

>>52430648
Gay pride parades are so odd.
They are out right BDSM parades that happen to have gay people.

>>52430556
>pick a different codex
That wasn't what I was asking.

>>52430602
Nah, I'm never planning to buy anything Wraith outside of the Wraithlord since it lacks access to D-Weapons. I like Aspect Warriors, Banshees and Fire Dragons I like the most.

>>52430676
As a gay guy, I've got to agree. There's just too much weird shit that's been thrown into the parades.

>>52430498
>>52430523
>>52430535
>>52430537
I'm thinking of going Tau then, I want the models I spend money and time on to actually do work, I'm not even competitive. Is there anything similar to Paladin GK in another army? I also like the whole mech thing going on with Tau.

>>52430648
There isn't anything wrong with that, and also they are both equally as gay whether you want to believe it or not.

Pride parades are something else entirely.

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>>52430565

Dont you have any 1d4chan articles to edit? Theres just so much stuff that needs to become more accesible, inclusive, less biggoted, homophobic and less sexist!

>complaining about this on fucking 4chins
>current year + fuck off you weak minded cuck

What has happned to this place, when did all the nu-male "BUHU B NICE" beta faggots infest /tg/?!

>>52430501

How who got to the planet?

Eldar sent the orks there as a distraction so they could steal the maguffin and were taken there by dark eldar using the Webway. The Dark eldar have been trading tryanids with a local black merchant for years in exchange for pit slaves.

An inquisitor has been investigating cult activity with rumors about a strange maguffin. Meanwhile, the cultists have found the maguffin and started summoning daemons with the help of a dark benefactor. The benefactor is a CSM sorcerer looking for the maguffin and opens a portal bringing his friends so they can begin extracting the maguffin due to the timely Ork attack above.

We're not dealing with massive numbers here.

>>52430720
Nah the guy who gets pounded is way gayer

>>52430458
Missile Drones are autocannons that double as extra padding for your Broadsides. Take them. Personally I stick with the Smart Missile System, since it has Ignores Cover, can fire out of line-of-sight, is twin-linked and has craploads of S5 shots. Spend 5 points per model on Early Warning Override for your support systems to give them Interceptor, and keep your 'Sides in the middle of your line. The 30" range on their Intercepting smart missile systems is great for discouraging deepstriking infantry, and their Rail Rifles will shit all over light armour. Think of it like a TL meltagun with 60" range, without the Melta rule.

>>52430470
Yea, exactly. I'm really looking forward to this game

>>52430668
You have the baseline competitive Tau army, it's not something that ought to be surprising.
>>52430679
Have a decent mix of aspect warriors. I can't tell you the last time I saw someone run shining spears and banshees alongside avengers and black guardians.
Throw in some Harlequins, too.
>>52430727
Try harder, anon, this isn't the place for your brand of trash.

>>52430523
>won't be accused of being a WAACfag

You'll be surprised, I had butthurt players bitching about OP Grey Knights from mid 6e all the way up to 7e.

>>52430769
I do love me some Harlies

>>52430702
>Is there anything similar to Paladin GK in another army?

Ya. Adeptus Custodes.
More elite, more durable, more deadly. CHEAPER.

>>52430749

And Tau wonder why people hate them

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>>52430217
>"Do us a favour and make us a scan once you've got it"
>scan a ruleset that will be dead in next three months

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>>52429897
Sister Miriael, after turning to Slaanesh, became as devout to the Dark Prince as a normal Sororita would be towards the Emperor.

>>52430797
Throw in a unit of basic Harlies on foot, and a Solitaire at higher points.
No, it's not "tournament" grade, but shit, they are great to see on the table, and one of most enduring memories of my gaming days is a match where Calgar was 1v1'ing the Swarmlord, only for a fucking Solitaire to jump in and slapped both of their shit.

>>52430832
Because your perfectly accurate drop pod deep strike on turn 1 might suffer a few heavy bolter hits?

>>52430769
Oh, I know the army isn't gimped. I'm just heartily sick of showing up to play on our monthly gameday and seeing chucklefuck with his Optimized Stealth Cadre and two Riptides shitting over everyone who isn't playing Eldar.
At least if I play against him, I can light up his Ghostkeels with markerlights for Ignores Cover and put a Hammerhead round into each one. No FnP, instant death. As for the Riptides...I have six deep-striking fusion suits that could put the hurt on, as well as three rail rifle Broadsides. Yeah, he'll still get FnP, but I think I've got a pretty good chance of killing one Riptide the turn those Suits arrive. Twelve fusion blasters aren't to be fucked with.

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>>52430670
>>52430749
Thanks for the advice guys.
Ill keep what >>52430749 said in mind if I tweak the list.

How does this look?

>>52430873
I'll give that a shot

>>52430887
>perfectly accurate drop pod
How you manage that? My buddy's drop pods scatter 2d6.

>>52430915
I'd go for a flamer over a burst cannon on that crisis team.

Other than that, seems fine

>>52430887
>perfectly accurate drop pod deep strike on turn 1
You are bitching about this now, but that was around for almost 10 years, maybe more depending on codex.
Drop pod armies have been around for 4 editions, and chumps like you are crying about them now because... why, exactly?
Worse, you are acting like drop pod assault is a good enough reason to have a unit that shits on all deepstriking armies by existing, back when people soundly admitted that DH Sages were cheese.

>>52430919
He's probably referring to the inertial guidance system that prevents mishaps.

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>>52430649

Well I mean if most people don't know what an inquisitor's seal looks like that just makes it even easier to forge.

>Yeah man, I'm an inquisitor. Can't you see my seal?
>No it's not an elephant seal, it's an Inquisitorial Seal. Yeah, people mix those up all the time.

>>52430919
First, you've got a 2/3 chance to scatter at all. Second, the drop pod will reduce scatter a minimum distance if it would mishap, meaning you won't scatter super far onto a unit or wall. Third, the marines get to pile out 6" afterwards, meaning that even with a 12 scatter, you're only 6 inches from where you wanted to be.

Not only that, but scouts with located beacons are cheap

>>52430702
Custodes. Black Legion Termi Troops.

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how's it goin pals, this list got any glaring weaknesses? I don't play in too competitive an environment, fuckers think Ravenwing is OP on the same level as triptides and Seerstars.

I'm not a regular here, but what was /tg/'s reaction to Papa Smurf getting deux ex machina'd?

>>52430960
>You can't complain about our understated unit! We've had it for way longer!

And you haven't always had relentless gravcannons that can fit in a drop pod.

>>52430853
How hardcore do you have to be to get a snake tongue?

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>>52429880
>If you want Chaos girls in power armor, just have cultists find some.
Nah, I just want to see the fall of the great.
I like the idea of making sucessor Chapters of Space Marines fall to chaos or become renegade, so the idea of small groups of Sororitas falling is also cool to me, but I still want that it makes sense in universe, and that is abit hard with the Sororita, their faith is too strong.

>>52430960
Drop pods weren't scoring for most of them. Now drop pods commonly have objective secured.

Not to mention the fact that there are more valuable targets in those drop pods now.

Also

>SMS
>Shitting on drop pods

>>52431035
>he's complaining about a singular formation that is OP and everyone accepts is OP
Are you going to complain about razorbacks now that a formation allows you to get them for free, too?

>>52430915

>>52430749 here

If I were you, I'd steer clear of the Stim Injectors on the Broadsides. Hear me out. FnP is cancelled out by Instant Death. Most weapons that are AP2 are S8 or S9, meaning if your Broadside gets hit by a meltagun or a lascannon, you don't get that FnP. You're better off with the Shield Generator (don't, because it is way too expensive). If you want FnP, you can always park your Ethereal near your Broadsides and give them 6+ FnP for free. Yeah it's worse, but a 5+ is shit to begin with. If you take Interceptor you're also potentially preventing that shithead drop-podding Dreadnought from shooting your 'Side on the back and vaping him in one hit. Interceptor makes everybody think twice.

>>52431063
>What are Gravcents?

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Is there anything to this? Shopped or real?

>>52431028

A world weary sigh was the overall reaction.

There was also a lot of trolling, but that's standard issue with any announcement really.

>>52431048
Her muffmunchings/blowjobs/rimjobs must be most exquisite.

>>52431089
looks quite shopped ya dingus

>>52430966
On random plebs that would work. In anyone within a powerful and influential position a proper seal with techno magic ID thingy would be requiere.

Also real world humans are very different from 40k humans (they might not even be humans but stone men, since it is implying that Golden men where the modern humans)

To 40k human impersonanting a throne Agent would be something beyond their line of thought.

>>52431105
>tfw no snake tongued demon gf for rimjobs
sad

>>52431089
Fake, but nicely done.

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So what do you guys think of the Saggitarum models? They look pretty cool Imho, do they have any rules in the new Codex?

>pic related

>>52431080
Legit. Before I started this Tau army I ran Carcharodons as a full drop-pod army, and brought two Gravcent squads. They are terrifying. Recently I started sticking Librarians in the squads and rolling on Divination, for that sweet, sweet Prescience and whatever the power is that grants Ignores Cover. Twelve SMS shots hitting six centurions is going to do maybe one unsaved wound, and the railguns might do two, but that combo will make meltacide squads like Chaos Raptors and drop-podding Dreadnoughts shit bricks.

>>52430987
So what you're telling me is the scatter is minimum, but the other anon said

>perfectly accurate drop pod

minimum scatter isn't the same as "perfectly accurate"

Take a Webway Portal for example:
> If a model with a webway portal is in Reserves or Ongoing Reserves, then the model and any unit it has joined or is embarked upon has the Deep Strike special rule. This model, and his unit, will not scatter if arriving from Deep Strike Reserve.

You mentioned Scouts, but they only get Teleport Homers, but those only work for Terminators.

Now that is perfectly accurate. So again I ask, how is he getting "perfectly accurate" drop pods.

>>52431144

Imagine if you tripled the cost of heavy Bolter Devastators, clipped 6 inches off their range and basically all you got out of it was a durability boost.

>>52431060
>Drop pods weren't scoring for most of them
Drop pods, if they had troops in them, could contest, similar to rhinos.
The Obj Sec nonsense is exactly that, and honestly, do people actually throw drop pods, with their units, onto objectives in dangerous territory just to claim them?
>Shitting on drop pods
What about every other deepstriking unit in the game, such as webway assaults, gravchute IG, etc? Like I said, using drop pods as an excuse to allow cheese that effects every army in the game is silly.
>>52431080
>my real problem is with grav weapons, but I'm going to complain about everything else that is tangentially related to them instead
>>52431150
He's not, he is trying to justify his cheese by claiming someone else's cheese is worse (when it's not).

>>52431169
>It's a 'Marine players have 0 self-awareness about power level' episode

>>52431022
Looks noice. Would melta/10

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>>52431144
Also this gyrafalcon guys

>mfw resin

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>no standardized character volume determined by base size
>if I want to give my guys cool scenic bases that raise them up slightly instead of just slathering on Agrellan Earth I get a gameplay penalty
>8th edition won't fix this

>>52431165
Their guns have instant death, though.

>>52431150
Drop Pods with locator beacons can bring others in the next turn without rolling for scatter 6" from the hull. I used it a lot, just threw beacons on every one of my seven pods and used the four on the first turn to make a rough 24" bubble where my subsequent pods and termies could land on turn 2.

>>52431197
>"Hey I based my dudes to look cool, but it added 1/2" to them, do you mind if we keep this mind when drawing LOS?"
>"Ya, no problem, your bases look sick. Thanks for asking me and us working this out like adults."

>>52431186
>It's the Xeno Defense Force complaining that SMs aren't shit on the table anymore, but doesn't know what's actually broken so bitching about everything
I'm happy I've played 40k long enough to see this kind of salt from Tau and Eldar players.

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>>52430466
Nice explanation there, but I don't think that their lack of those traits is keeping them from corruption, it is their absurdly high faith.

Their faith allows them to make blood rain in the battlfield and not turn to Khorne.

It allows them to outsmart and deceive noble houses without getting touched by Tzeentch.

It allows them to face the worst the universe can give them without despair dragging them to Nurgle.

It even protects them from the whispers of Slaanesh every time they indulge in penitent self-mortification and in whatever tantric exercises some of them may do.

The Emperor Protects.

>>52431089
100% shopped

So after some fluff reading I've decided I might want a small Minotaurs army as a sideline along with my Inquisition, because I like the idea of Space Marines doing their jobs as attack dogs. I've never played either a Space Marine or an assaulty army before, despite my tendency to stick Sicarians into my Mechanicus. What are must-haves and things to avoid, and what's particularly fluffy for them? From what I gather they're more the sledgehammer heavy vehicle and Terminator assault than the Blood Angels elegant Jetpack swooping, so a Land Raider Redeemer? If I get the Calth set, Moloc and his chaplain friend to start with, what supplements that well?

I would ask my SM friend, but he plays Lamenters, so I kind of want to keep this secret and challenge him to 1.5k someday, bring Malakim. Then drop the brass boys on the table.

>>52431197

Oh, man up you sod. Accept your very very slight LoS enabler in change for AWESOME, it's like you don't even convert and counts-as.

>>52431244
Very valid, but at 10ppm, that adds up to 70pts. (Two Grav-Cannons)

Why don't you just put LBs on the 4/7? Lets you save 30pts, or is it because your alter which drop pods come in T1 each game?

>>52431275
>He thinks I play Tau

lol

>>52431169
>my real problem is with grav weapons, but I'm going to complain about everything else that is tangentially related to them instead

I think his problem is with drop-pods carrying absurd amounts of firepower provided by the Centurions, and having it land on your flank then vaporizing a squad without the means to counter or prevent it. Three Broadsides could barely kill a Centurion and half, statistically. They have laughable firepower compared to the centurion alpha strike, and are basically dead the moment it hits the table.

>>52431298
Even if he altered the pods, he could just put different things in the ones that came in first turn.

>>52431219

No, their secondary fire mode within 12 inches has instant death when their main fire mode is heavy.

>>52431186
We've been getting a lot of those lately. I think there's one salty incredibly bad SMurfag in these threads who has no conception of the balance because he plays in a meta with nothing but Aeldari Cheese Threat Level Extremis.

>>52431279
Adepta Sororitas could be plagued by Nurgle and be like: "sweet now I help the sick withou worrying about getting sick my self"

Like the old Sisters of Sigmar doctor nun things. Got turn into a vampire, and she kept doing her work in plagued town much more easily as she was now immune to deseas and decay.
Granted this was a vampire plot twist thingy plan but it was a nice concept.

>>52431192

Whilst the Saggitarium are crap, the Gyrfalcon bikes are godly.

Imagine melding the best traits of scatterbikes and chapter masters.

>>52431334
I mean, considering the SoB have actual faith based powers, it probably follows that whatever manifests that power (the emperor I guess) protects them from chaos.

>>52431334
>Like the old Sisters of Sigmar doctor nun things. Got turn into a vampire, and she kept doing her work in plagued town much more easily as she was now immune to deseas and decay.
>Granted this was a vampire plot twist thingy plan but it was a nice concept.

What are you even talking about?

>>52431244
I adapt my sequence depending on my opponent. If I see he's got anti-tank everywhere, I send the Dreadnoughts in turn 2 and drop the Centurions and Tacticals turn one. Usually it's two Venerable dreadnoughts with heavy flamers, multimeltas and powerfists as well as the two grav-centurion squads I will drop on turn one. That extra thirty points for beacons for the other pods is absolutely worth it if it means avoiding dropping my Dreadnoughts into certain death.

>>52431311
I was more just pointing out how silly it is for marine players to be complaining about S 5 Interceptor of all things in a Tau army.

Chaos Sisters when?

>>52429709
Edge highlighting is a dick, especially when you have shaky hands like mine.

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>>52431358
FW bikes are worse than art and GW jetbikes though.

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>>52431379
meant to quote

>>52431298

>>52431320
Dedicated Transports won't allow you to put non buyer's during Set-Up.

Rendering those Pods worthless

>I'm assuming with 7 Drop Pods he's running several as Dedicated Transports

>>52431401

Mostly because the Custodian is sitting too far back. If the seat was forwards a little and he was in a less reclined pose it'd look amazing.

>>52431374
Think it was Mordheim or some random WHF book. A vampire clan that infiltrated the Empire had also infiltrated a Sister of Sigmar order. The crazy bitches used their vampire power to keep doing things for the needed in the name of Sigmar.
The Vampire let them do it for a while.

That story is old as balls thou but it was during the events of Mordheim.

>>52431383
Yeah, I was arguing against the other guy. I agree with you completely.

>>52431407

Nice meme

>>52431255
>>52431292
I suppose, but it seems weird to punish creativity in a game where customization is such a big thing.

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>>52429366
Harlequins without a doubt

>>52431421
Yeah, but it's stupidly easy to switch those around between games, assuming you aren't in a tournament. And if you are in a tournament, I should hope you have things planned well enough to not need a beacon on all 7

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>>52431068
I tweaked it a little bit.

>>52431379
Fair enough. Didn't know what you were putting in pods, was figuring with that many it would have been a Gladius.

>>52431421
Three in Fast Attack, four as Dedicated. And yeah, that's exactly why I just shill out 30 points.

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>>52431423
I don't know why FW made flying dildos.

>>52431427
Well it wasn't in any Mordheim book at least. The only story that sounds anything like that was in a comic, but those weren't Sisters of Sigmar..

>>52430748
If that makes you feel better, we'll go with that.