How do we fix the terrible Age of Sigmar setting?

>>52415284
For what purpose ?

>Stop buying Stormcasts
>Play all the new WHFB vidyas
>Generate demand for the return of the Old World

>>52415344
Too see if garbage can be salvaged.

Better question:

How do we reverse the End Times and Sigmarines?

Make it all the fever dream of a snoozing Empire Wizard?

Archaons destroys the world, again. We are back to Fantasy. This time, he's killed for good.

>>52415432
I'm all for recycling but some garbage is just too bad.

Plus AoS makes for a perfect shit taste filter.

>age of sigmar artwork

please tell me that is not official artwork

>>52415420
>>52415452
>>52415453
Desperate Fantasyfags are so cute.

>>52415536
I'm pretty sure it is because that's typically how it looks.

>>52415576
>people really defending Marvel rip-off
You should by older than 8 years to post here

>>52415576
The problem boils down to good writing or bad writing.

AoS setting is great. I really wouldn't change mech about it. Other than give us some more info about the elves and free peoples, but the new hero quest game shines some more light on the latter, which is cool.

I honestly like it and don't give a fuck if you think my opinion is wrong.

>>52415618
>If I believe hard enough, GW will surely bring Fantasy back!

You're like a battered wife. Worse even because your husband isn't coming back even if you want him too!

>>52415284
another end-times

>Play Total Warhammer
>Kinda want to play real warhammer since I remember getting the magazine as a kid.
>I can't even look at the cool models on the website since they removed all the WHFB stuff.

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>>52415656
You should be ashamed of your terrible shit taste.

>>52415679
>since they removed only a fraction of the WHFB stuff
Fixed that for you

>>52415576

I've played one full game of Fantasy in my life.

I know a turd when I see one though. A turd with the odd nugget of silver in it, but a turd nonetheless.

It needs a catchy theme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5K9KdO8_S4

By adding more thick musclegirls. They already introduced first one of them it in their new boardgame, so now it's only a question of time.

>>52415284
>how do we make people realize that my opinion is better than theirs
If you try hanging yourself, it just might work

I would remove Chaos and Dwarfs entirely.

>>52415658
>GW will surely bring Fantasy back!
And where I said or implied anything like this?
>>52415702
>implying any of non-Chaos armies will get actual update

>>52415709
The average 4chan poster everyone.

>I've actually never done this
>but my opinions are valid

>>52415284
I kind of like the idea for Age of Sigmar, honestly. Making the setting a noticeably strange and fantastical world (or collection of worlds) was breath of fresh air compared to yet boring Middle Earth knock off. If the focused on that and tried to recreate the complex politics of the Old World in a new environment, I'd be down with it.

But GW wants its plastic army men to fight its other plastic army men, so no luck there.

>neckbeard virgin grognards still using false statements that get proven wrong every thread about AoS to say it sucks
You guys are gonna be just as embarrassing in a few years as the guys who were initially nerdraging about DnD4e back in the day. I can imagine the acne and fat on each and every one of you guys' bodies. The sheer disgust and pettiness over something so shallow. It's a wonder most of you can't leave mommy's basement.

>>52415723
It was a girl? Then why she looked like a man with tits in horrible armor?

>It's another pathetic thread where angry neckbeards shit on a setting they never played, never will play because it destroyed a setting they also never played

>>52415740
>And where I said or implied anything like this?

First posts I quoted m8.
You're a little nonce who is sad GW isn't giving him its dick anymore.

>>52415658
>You're like a battered wife.
Better be a battered wife than a crackwhore like you are, shill.

>>52415753
Nigga you will love Shadows over Hammerhal.

>>52415760
>Then why she looked like a man

Pear type cucklet detected.

>>52415756
They're actually worse than the vanilla wow fags who hate retail just because. I hear their excuses and can't help but disagree with most of them

>>52415284
But it's cool?

Turn Age of Sigmar into a subset of Fantasy under the specialty games banner with a focus on the board game style play/

Bring back Fantasy with revamped infantry lines (elite and special units age doesn't matter but everything under the banner of core units gets a new box if the kit predates Storm of Magic).

>>52415783
You're more of a crackwhore than me, you're a crackwhore who has no crack so you're left licking up salty pubes from the bathroom floor.

>>52415815
>I know what we'll do
>We'll bring back WHFB and make the problem of it selling no units even worse.

Line infantry were shit. Nobody enjoys making them, nobody enjoyed designing them.

>>52415849
WHFB was still selling more than your failed OC donut steel setting :^)

>>52415756
>You guys are gonna be just as embarrassing in a few years as the guys who were initially nerdraging about DnD4e back in the day. I can imagine the acne and fat on each and every one of you guys' bodies. The sheer disgust and pettiness over something so shallow. It's a wonder most of you can't leave mommy's basement.
>says another neckbeard who collecting plastic dolls
>>52415787
You mean another dungeon crawl about sigmarines?
>>52415776
>First posts I quoted m8.
And neither of posts you've quoted was mine
>>52415807
If retail so great then why Blizz stopped publish online statistic after WoD?

>>52415867
>Fantashit delusions

>>52415284
We pull an Age of Sigmar on it. That is, explode it (make the flying shards coalesce into a planet?) and make an entirely new one, using only a few superficial elements from it.

>>52415867
no, it wasn't. And what WAS selling were 1/2 units per army because nobody needed to by line infantry anymore.

>>52415871
Oh hi there Slavposter, do you ever actually sleep?

>>52415284
Tomb Kings

>>52415871
>And neither of posts you've quoted was mine

But you sped to their defence, so your opinions are the same you cucko.

>>52415767
I don't care about the setting in gameplay context. I tried reading the lore and it's shit even when it's decent.

>>52415871
Retail is better than vanilla in every single way, and I've yet to hear a valid argument agaisnt that.

>world pvp is dead in retail
No it isn't
>servers aren't as tight knit in retail
Yes they are
>raiding is ez mode
It's harder
>pvp is bad
It was never good

>>52415895
>>52415880
Until 2013 (when GW stopped releasing minis for WHFB), it was the second best selling game on the market.

AoS is below Warmahordes nowadays.

>>52415867
AoS is actually selling because it turns out that most people have shit taste.

>>52415284
Is that... a bolt pistol in that sigmars hand?

I got confused for a second and thought this was 40k, what the fuck.

>>52415835
>you're a crackwhore who has no crack
But he didn't plays AoS with his old army

>>52415888
Why? So you can start bitching about how much you loved AoS?

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>>52415849
People hated line infantry because all the kits were boring shit that was 15 years old at the newest.

GW just had to include official filler pieces and build your own filler piece sets for each faction to give support to stuff like pic related while also giving GW actual money through kitbashing.

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Nurgle is revealed to be pic related. Turns out that Slaanesh is gone because pic related tried pulling moves. Tzneetch is a troll & Khorne is a jerk-op.

>>52415947
It's literally a pistol that shoots crossbow bolts.

>>52415948
No, he just whines about AoS years later but secretly wants for GW's cock to return so he can suckle the sweet nectar from it.

>>52415903
>But you sped to their defence
Where?
>>52415937
>Retail is better than vanilla in every single way
Yeah that's why Blizz still refusing to publish statistic after it dropped to 5 mill.
>It's harder
Yeah especially EN

>>52415939
Do you even have proof?

>>52415974
>No, he just whines about AoS years later
Yeah how people can dislike awful MMO aesthetics
>but secretly wants for GW's cock to return so he can suckle the sweet nectar from it.
Wow-wow hold your projections under control stormbrother

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>>52415284
>retcon for it to exist alongside the old world before the apocalypse
>treat godlike povs with more distance and mysticism
>focus on the relative scenes rather than the meta schemes
>treat factions with less centralizations: more agendas, more "capitals", more infighting and ramifications
>juxtapose alternative armour marks to the various AoS designs to offer a better blending
>expand on the explanations beyond "it's magic"
>add more grimderp

GW inability to compromises is baffling

>>52415990
>Where?

In the first post of our little conversation.

>>52415752

We're talking about the setting, not the mechanics, you muppet

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>>52415679
Similar case here. I got into warhammer from vermintide. When I started pith pestilens (the only skaven army gw likes to talk about) I found out about the end times, and the loss of the setting I'd read about

>>52416004
http://icv2.com/articles/games/view/26216/top-5-non-collectible-miniature-lines-spring-2013

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GOBLINS

>>52415955
>Infantry was boring a shit
>I know, let's sell things that make infantry just as boring, but we can pretend we're not stuck designing another throwaway kit.

Or we can have a game where the core infantry are not forced into little boxes and purposely throwaway.

>>52416009
>P-p-please GW come back to me

>>52415990
So that's your argument? That after 13 years straight blizzard doesn't have 10m subscribers?

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>AoSIDF is throwing a childish tantrum because someone criticizes their meme setting

>>52416021
In the first post I saying you have shit taste, nothing more.

>>52415618
I'm not at all familiar with AoS. How's it a Marvel rip off?

>>52416033
That shows WHFB was selling poorly in 2013.

>>52416022
The setting is entirely subjective to personal taste. You think something is gay, I think it's cool, and vice versa

>>52416033
>http://icv2.com/articles/games/view/26216/top-5-non-collectible-miniature-lines-spring-2013
>Warmachine and X-Wing above it
>Considering how Warmahordes works, it's probably an even bigger gap between it and WHFB
>second best selling
What? Fantashit delusion indeed.

>>52416022
People on /tg/ couldn't read one sentence even if their life depended on it.

>>52416059
But in defence of Fantasyfags.
You would not have responded if you were not taking their side.
Your mind is too simplistic slav.

>>52416062
Because /v/tards suddenly think they know everything about Warhammer by reading the Lexicanum posts.

They played Warhammer total war and suddenly "NOT MUH WARHAMMER" like every under 18 year old does.

>>52416044
>dat reddit-tier projections
>>52416049
Yep, because neither of WoW expansions have such a huge drop like WoD.

>>52415954
You know, you might have a point. I shouldn't expect GW to improve anything. Then again, it might be an entertaining trainwreck to watch, so...

>>52416075
Then read the fucking OP topic.

>>52416062
Sigmarines are exactly like marvel's asgardians.

>>52416125
You have literally proven this wrong last thread slavposter.

>>52416110
>>dat reddit-tier projections
>Misusing projection
>Desperately want the GW cock to come back and fuck him in the ass more

>>52416022

>you muppet

Brits crack me up

>>52416110
And yet private servers have almost no one playing them. Could it be that after a decade of being the greatest mmo ever made, people have moved on to something else? No its definitely the sub 100k ppl on shitty private servers who are right

>>52416132
What last thread you spastic neckbeard ?

>>52416123
I did, and this is a pointless thread. We might as well be arguing why my favourite colour is better tha yours

Literally every single person I met in every club, every store I went in that hates AoS is the most crusty inbred looking fuck ever.

Most normal people simply had no interest or wanted to try it out.

I mean these constant threads, whining and whining about how AoS is "Kiddie/Marvel/Wow"

Don't like it? ignore it! play the edition of WHFB you liked, I know I still do.

>>52416161
>Cries about a setting on /tg/.
>Calls other people a neckbeard.

>>52416169
Your favourite colour is objectively the worst colour.

I think my real problem with Age of Sogmar's setting is that it's a world where, unlike even 40k, there truly *is* only war.

You can't tell the stories of regular people's regular lives, because there are no regular people with regular lives around. There's no merchants or blacksmiths or town guards, just legions of warriors fighting a cosmic battle with no end in sight. It's hard to really get invested in that.

>>52416125
>he thinks Marvel invented Einherjar
I bet you think Thor is blond.

>>52416188
It's a flimsy sandbox setting. I can make up one of those on the fly.

>>52416125
>Sigmarines are exactly like marvel's asgardians.

How?

>>52416188
Well, it's only a year old, and we have shit like Hammerhal there to try and add shit like that.

Could you imagine Warhammer without the WHFRP book?

>>52416062
Superhero aesthetics and Asgard rip-off.
>>52416074
>That shows WHFB was selling poorly in 2013.
Just like AoS now.
>>52416093
>>second best selling
Anon who said it was wrong, yet still game was popular even after last two editions
>>52416100
>But in defence of Fantasyfags.
Where?
>You would not have responded if you were not taking their side.
>everyone who disagree with my shit taste are on the fantasyfags side, reeee!
Nice projections
>>52416107
>/v/tards
Reddit, please

>>52416188
>there truly *is* only war.

Not even close to true.

>>52416231
>Where?

In you attack of me mocking Fantasyfags.
Your mind is too simplistic slav.

What I love about AoS is the Stormcast eternals. They are truly superheroes, living in golden cities like Asgard. The amount of haters just show that people don't like comics and thus have shit taste.

Plus Stormcasts can be black or female, so if you don't like them you probably racist or sexist.

>>52416176
Can I make a pasta out of your post, but change 'AoS' to 'threads complaining about AoS'? Cause, you know, you're complaining about people complaining about stuff instead of ignoring it?

>>52416134
>projecting so hard
>>52416153
>people have moved on to something else?
Yeah and it was pure coincidence that they all leaved right after one expansion

This is like the third thread on /tg/ at the moment that's like this.

>>52381084 devolved into this same shit
>>52402013 seemed to have intentionally wanted to start the same shit

Why are there at least three threads of probably the same 20-30 people arguing about the same damn thing that they aren't gonna change their minds about?

>>52416188
I do wonder if they are ever going to elaborate eventually. Like 40k immediately in Rogue Trader/1st had quite a bit of this stuff in its first few books, but as 40k went on the focus on more "regular" people went away and it did get closer and closer towards "only war." But then in a way they could afford to do this as it was mainly their novels that started expanding on this, and the most probable thing happening is the novels also for AoS to expand such things as well.

>>52416184
>not liking orange
How can one man's taste be so shit?

>>52416229

Literally a spin-off sequel of a board game. If that's how far you have to dig, canon or not, there's something amiss.

>>52416231
>B-but Reddit.

Slavposter, do you ever get tired, EVER of being wrong?

Is your life to devoid of anything enjoyable, the tiny sparks of recognition when people post (you)'s is all that brings you joy?

You're a sad creature, you'll probably die cold and alone in a few years, yet I will still be playing AoS.

>>52416262
>He even starts falseflagging

Jesus christ, you are just pathetic, stop, go back to /r9k/

>>52416262
>baiting this hard

>>52416284
So..... then Warhammer Fantasy was shallow as shit?

Because most of the fluff is left out of the army books.

>>52416280
>>projecting so hard
>Still using projection wrong
>Still butthurt that GW doesn't love him

AoS is basically what you get if you let a women design a setting and it's given a masculine aesthetic. Women can't do anything right.

>>52416280
And yet, private servers are still dead

>>52416210
>Einherjar
Nothing close to immortal Ultramarines and you was proven wrong about it in previous thread.
Also, show me where in actual Norse mythology they were black and wear MMO armor sets for paladins?

>>52416308
>Thing I don't like is evil Reeeeeee it must be women Reeeeeeee

Jesus, Slavposter just go back to /r9k/

>>52416330
>show me where in actual Norse mythology they were black and wear MMO armor sets for paladins?

>BUT THEY NOT ONE FOR ONE WITH MYTH
>Still using MMO as a descriptor for aesthetics even though every MMO looks different.

>>52416285
>b-b-b-b-but you are wrong!
Not an argument
>>52416306
>still projectiong his gaydreams on other people

>>52416330
>Stormcast are a Einherjar expy
>No they're not, see how they are not literally Einherjar in every detail.

Jesus the autism is real.

>>52416352
>I can only communicate in memes because I'm 14 years old and I don't have a real developed personality

>>52415284
Is... is that a bolt pistol?

>>52416210
Einherjar never wore armor in the nordic sagas

>>52416362
>Still not using projection right.
>Still too embarrassed to admit he want's GW crack in his face.

>>52416377
Yes.

>>52416377
It's a crossbow.

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>>52416377
ITS A BOLTSTORM PISTOL. CANT YOU KEKS GET ANYTHING RIGHT? LIKE HOLY FUCKING SHIT, I DONT LIKE THE SETTING SO I'LL PURPOSELY GET THE NAMES WRONG HUEHUEHUE. FUCKING FAG.

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>>52416075
subjectivity is an illusion of perspective

every opinion is based on an imperfect knowledge of the matter and one or more objective standards


any discussion about subjectivity could be resolved by the arguins parts sharing their knowledge and shedding light on the standards being taken into consideration

but these threads are doomed to be filled with shitposters, factious people that hate more the distorted idea of the people supporting the other side than the side being supported itself and a resolute slavposter.

Retcon Archaon entirely out of continuity. He was never a good character.

>>52416361
>>BUT THEY NOT ONE FOR ONE WITH MYTH
Yeah and they much closer to Marvel myths adaptation, even their magitech makes them closer to Marvel Asgard than to Norse.
>>Still using MMO as a descriptor for aesthetics even though every MMO looks different.
And always feels the same
>>52416366
Show us any detail what maes them looks like Einherjar dince they aren't doomed to fight in battle where they will fall.

>>52416434
It is a pistol that fires bolts

It is even more of a literal bolt pistol than an actual bolt pistol.

But then its no surprise seeing that Stormcast are literally just fantasy space marines.

>>52416362
>B-but you don't have an argument.

Alright, here is my argument. AoS is a clean slate setting that is only a year old, at the same time of Aos, WHFB wasn't even a Fantasy battle game, had no fucking map, had no clear setting or factions and was vaguely designed around about 5 cities of the Empire and that the chaos wastes existed. Lizardmen? Nothing. closest was Firmir. WHFB was a bunch of British nerds blending Moorcock, Conan, LotR and DnD together in such a hilariously obvious way, they managed to pinch every single idea and stitch it together. Just. Like. AoS.

I like AoS because it's a final breath of fresh air, I can go full ham mode in designing the background of not just my Army, but also my campaigns. It's an enjoyable setting and the best part for now is anything I want, I can simply create. From cities to Empires to models and rules.

Every thread Slavposter, you post multiple replied posts on how AoS is "WoW" and "He-Man" and "Marvel superheroes"

At the end of the day, maybe it is those things, but I find it amusing enough, and it was one simple thing that got me about the setting.

When a bunch of Stormcast come across a Banshee in a town, She's not evil, She's just a sad misbegotten spirit who aids the Stormcast.

And you know what? I loved that, I'm fucking sick of the Grimderp in Warhammer shit.

>>52416330
>you was proven wrong about it in previous thread
This is the first AoS related thread I've visited today, yesterday & the day before yesterday.

>>52416394
And the Holy Roman Empire didn't have Steam Tanks, Judge Dredd's Judges was never armed with what an Arbitres was & more. I bet you think that the Green Knight & Lady of Lake weren't completely taken from Arthurian stories thanks to having minute differences.

>>52416495
AoS will soon be two years old.

>>52416419
>still projecting his wet-dreams

>>52416481
>Slavposter gets angry so his typing slips

How very /r9k/. They're Einherjar because they are Warriors chosen by a God on high when they die to join his side in a fight against primordial evil powers that want to start a world ending event.

>>52416520
What the hell is a slavposter?

>>52416506
All we need is an AoS roleplaying game. That's all WHFB needed.

>>52416366
Einherjar are dead warriors who got the attention of the Valkyries and got picked upon their death to fight for the final battle in the Valhalla. They are supposed to fight once, for Ragnarok.

Sigmarines are mortals who got picked and reforged and get revived each time they die. Their is absolutely nothing in common with Einherjar.

>>52416481
>Yeah and they much closer to Marvel myths adaptation

How?

>And always feels the same

No it doesn't.
You maybe have brain cancer.

>>52416460
I'll stop you right there my friend. No one has ever said that whfb was a bad setting, I think it's safe to say that we all 100% agree whfb was cool. But the hatred for AoS seems to stem solely from the butthurt of whfb getting axed, which is understandable but it's been years now and it's getting old.

The setting for AoS is objectively cool, and if it were a standalone game that didn't replace whfb, I cannot envision people hating on it as much as they do now.

Movies about angels and demons are incredibly popular, and AoS is basically that + a bunch of fantasy stuff

>>52416535
A poster who is also in possession of many Slavic internet tropes.

>>52416512
>Still not using projection right
>Still thirsty for GW's BCD

>>52416544
>An analogue is not 100% the actual thing

Shocker. I bet you get angry at the Dragoon Class in Final Fantasy because it's not a man who rides a horse to a battlefield and then dismounts to fire.

>>52416557
Like what; tracksuits and vodka?

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>>52416556

>The setting for AoS is objectively cool

Fucking isn't though is it mate. There is no setting, it's just a blank canvas to throw the latest overdesigned tin men at.

>>52416586
Nah, more like bootleg idiocism.

>>52416586
Bad spelling, unrepentant autism, no real ability to form arguments.

He's basically a potato goblin.

>>52416495
>a year old
Two.
>DnD
Where?
>I like AoS because it's a final breath of fresh air
If it's so fresh then why it's so generic?
>I can go full ham mode in designing the background of not just my Army, but also my campaigns.
Emptiness also works perfect for such purpose. Like TES open world

>>52416544
>dead people who do so good someone likes them & get made into warriors for upcoming big battle

>>52416585
There is nothing in common with the einherjar, or even with the nordic mythology outside of his most recent interpretations (supermen of all walks of life in golden armor with capes).

>>52416586
Basically on the same shitposting tier as Ausies and Canadians

>>52416629
The mortals who would become Stormcast eternals aren't picked when they are dead. Their "recruitement" is more akin to space marines watching potential recruits on savage worlds.

>>52416520
>They're Einherjar because they are Warriors chosen by a God on high when they die to join his side in a fight against primordial evil powers that want to start a world ending event.
So any immortal paladins now are Einherjar?

>>52416613
Those names all look like something right out of diablo, and diablo is Fucking cool. It's pretty much impossible to remove the whfb butthurt bias from the argument, but if you really tried I think you'd see AoS in a newer light

>>52416631
>>52416665

>Slavposter cannot into analogues, only literal representations.

Marvel's Asgardians don't even HAVE Einherjar

>>52416556
Not him, but I just find AoS to be an objectively bad written setting. It has no dignity, no apparent stakes because everything is infinite and the naming convention is just absolutely dreadful.

It feels like bad satire of generic fantasy.

>>52416544
>Both picked for bravery in battle
>Both join army for fighting bad guys
>Both resurrected if they fall in battle

Only difference is the Stormcast are actually fighting the enemy rather than just practising to fight the enemy.

>>52416546
>How?
Golden polish armor, magitech, space station builded around planetoid, none of these thing apperas in original Norse mythology.
>>52416556
>No one has ever said that whfb was a bad setting,
Look at this thread, and look at thread about new WHFB game
>The setting for AoS is objectively cool
For kids who love capeshit

>>52416657
>Their souls are literally stolen to be reforged.

Jesus Slavposter, now you just resort to lying.

>>52416569
>still projecting so hard since beggnning of threa

>wanted to get back into Warhammer a while back
>Really wanted to play fantasy
>But 40k just had a larger and slightly less autistic playerbase in my town
>Buy Guardsmen

Fucking dodged that bullet m8s.

>>52416657
Stormcast are spirited away by LIGHTNING generally when they are close to death.

>>52416706
>Both resurrected if they fall in battle
But it's wrong. Einherjar don't get resurrected when they fall in battle, because they are supposed to fight just once, for the ragnarok.

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>>52416717
>Golden polish armor, magitech, space station builded around planetoid, none of these thing apperas in original Norse mythology.

Nor Marvel's Einhejar. They're ghosts.

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>>52416678

All I see is a setting where nothing matters, because there'll always be a new Crystal Forest or Dreadfort Skullkeep™ to capture in the next £30 expansion.

>>52416744
>generally when they are close to death.
They get spirited away when they are at the height of their power trough.

>>52416697
>Marvel's Asgardians don't even HAVE Einherjar
Yeah but SCE looks more like Marvel Asgardian than Ejnherjar.
Also, unlike sigmarines Ejnherjar have no hope to win their final battle

>>52416747
>But it's wrong. Einherjar don't get resurrected when they fall in battle

Except they fight each other in preparation for the final battle and at the end of the day they are recovered.

>>52416657
Actually, it's sorta both. AoS Sigmar takes people from the living & the dead. In fact, many Sigmarines are indeed experienced warriors before their selection.

Space Marines were selected from promising kids. Sigmarines are mainly people who've already lived a life & want revenge against Chaos.

>>52416759
What the fuck is that map ?

Tell me it's not official.

>>52416760
Nearly all stories of the Stormcast recruitment have them being taken by Sigmar as they lay broken and dying before the Warriors of Chaos, you lying piece of shit.

>>52416556
>But the hatred for AoS seems to stem solely from the butthurt of whfb getting axed

Regardless on whether I believe the judgement of an action should change just with time, it's not just on the old not being anymore, but also the new diverging from the tested designs and the roots of old for the sole purpose of being easier to produce rather than qualitatively better

>>52416754
>Nor Marvel's Einhejar.
But Marvel asgardians

>>52416796
>What the fuck is that map ?

Orruks killed and burned a forest on one side of a chasm then knocked down a big tree so they could get to the other.

>>52416747
They fight eachother every day in preparation for Ragnarök.

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>>52416796

I didn't even try to find that really bad one

>>52416759
>>52416840
AoS has the worst maps I have ever seen in anything.

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>>52416824
Marvel Asgardians don't have the uplifted mortal aspect though. They're just aliens, and even then their armour is very varied
Doesn't exactly look like a Stormcast, does she?.

>Einherjar or any kind of Nordic warrior
>wearing full plate, mythology or Marvel
What? Fucking a, where do you guys come up with this shit?

>>52416724
Could you stop called at least two different anons by one name.
Meanwhile he is right

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>>52416870

Shh you're just salty apparently anon

>>52416840
I still don't understand if the upper land is supposed to be the layer around the literal underworld being shown

So let me sum up
>SCE are like eihherjar
>but they don't fight their nemesis only once (as their name would suggest)
>but their aren't taken only from the men who died courageously in battle
>but aren't carried by valkyries
>but doesn't train against each other so instead are reforged by a god
>but are the will of the gods made manifest
>but get send back in the exact same battlefields they were taken from
So what exactly do they have in common ?

>>52416893
Absolutely pathetic looking.

>>52416925
Sounds more like shitty>>52416898
angels.

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>>52416840

>Mortuary Factory

I'm sorry, fucking what lads?

Do they manufacture mortuaries? Who for?

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>>52416883
>Doesn't exactly look like a Stormcast, does she?.
Yeah sure m8, AoS totally don't looks like MCU nine worlds

>>52416898
The whole map is just a single kingdom in Shyish ruled over by one of Neferata's handmaidens. The humans living under the handmaiden's tyrannical rule hired the Fyreslayers to get rid of her.

The Fyreslayers came in. Kicked ass and locked the vampire inside her coffin and took her with them to whereabouts unknown.

>>52415867
*cough cough*

http://icv2.com/articles/markets/view/36971/top-5-non-collectible-miniature-games-fall-2016
The "non-collectible" Market is currently 42% bigger than the last time WHFB ranked. Around 73% bigger than the last time it ranked third.

>>52416893
>I'm sorry, fucking what lads?
So Sigmar's Tempest it's Strike Cruiser or Battler barge covered by cloud and lightings are steel rain attacks directions?

>>52415899
Obsidian Monarchy is still a thing.

>>52416434
>BOLTSTORM PISTOL
So it's a more literal storm bolter.

>>52416980

With what money? Does she pay them to work in the clipart mortuary factory?

>>52416990
>tabletop market has grown by 73% by the last decade
>GW sales have decreased in the meantime
Premium company

>>52416925
>but doesn't train against each other so instead are reforged by a god

The Stormcast have fought against each other in Azyr in a sub-realm that was created by Malerion in order to train the Stormcast.

>>52416925
>>but their aren't taken only from the men who died courageously in battle

But they are.

>>but aren't carried by valkyries

But are carried away by divinities.

>>but doesn't train against each other so instead are reforged by a god

But they do train against each other.

>>but are the will of the gods made manifest

Not in a literal sense.

>So what exactly do they have in common ?

Both picked for bravery in battle
Both join army for fighting bad guys
Both resurrected if they fall in battle

>>52416953
>Sounds more like shitty angels

What do you know about Angels?

>>52416925
So let me sum up
>Bretonnia Lady of Lake is alike Arthurian Lady of Lake
>but one is an Elf
>but one has a Grail & the other hands out swords
>but one is always the same person
>but another seemingly had relacements
>but one is related to the Green Knight
>but another has little relevance to the Green Knight beyond same mythology

The list goes on. They're chosen, undying warriors spirited away to fight a big battle.

>>52417025
I stopped buying a lot of GW minis because of the prices and the fucking awful finecast material.

>>52416840
>those copypasted bone monsters

>>52417018
Ur-Gold. It's a type of metal found in the realms. Fyreslayers seek it for religious and personal reasons.

>>52416957
Are you trying to imply they look like the Dark Elves or the Asgardians?
Because they look like neither.

>>52417041
>Both resurrected if they fall in battle
Except eihherjar gots ressurections only in tranning
>Both join army for fighting bad guys
Only if we are talking about some shitty comics with black&white morale

>>52417041
I seem to recall that Angels is the host of Yahweh and that Yahweh originally was the wargod of the Israelites.

>>52417054

Did they send a Realmfax™ for the Duardin® Firestarters™?

Why don't they just take the gold off the imaginably wretched humans?

>>52417054
It's just C'tan shards.

>>52417102
I thought the word Angel was Greek or something for servant. Thus all the "X's angels did Y".

>>52417025
Yeah, you know that chart doesn't include GW stores, don't you? By the way, GW sales have increased in a 30%, going by this half-year's report.

>>52417054
>The humans living under the handmaiden's tyrannical rule
>somehow collected enough mysterious and probably rare gold to hire entire army
>>52417057
I'am trying to imply that AoS aesthetic pretty close to MCU Asgard and popular moba and mmo since the 8+ game focused on the same audience

>>52417117
Really? If you are a fantasyfag slap yourself in the face. Dwarfs/Duadrin are honourable to a fault.

>>52416980
nothing about that answered my question tho

>>52417146

If they're so honourable, why do they allow such suffering they can stop to happen anyway?

>>52417142
>>somehow collected enough mysterious and probably rare gold to hire entire army

A small portion of it would do since the Fyreslayers are always spoiling for a fight.

>>52417086
>Except eihherjar gots ressurections only in tranning

And so? Nobody says they're 1:1 einherjar. But the inspiration is obviously there, and the fact is they're both resurrecting warriors taken from courageous warriors to fight in a war for their gods.

>Only if we are talking about some shitty comics with black&white morale

Nope. They're both armies fighting against the end of the world.

>>52417102
Angels are not human at all. Stormcast are unlike angels in that they're humans who died or almost died.

>>52417135
>The hobby games business marked an astounding eighth consecutive year of growth in 2016, with the hobby channel growing around 10%, according to retailers, distributors, and publishers interviewed by ICv2 as sources for a report
Nice try

>>52417171
>>52417146
>>52417054
>>52416980

Is this what Buyer's Remorse looks like?

>>52417170
Not their problem. They are warriors for hire who enjoy decent and honest work, not thieves. Saving people is the Stormcast business.

>>52417135
>increased in a 30%
Comparing to 2015 second half year (the year when they've failed christmas sales, according to rumors).
And of course they increased only because of AoS, not because GW focused on 40k and shitton of large marines releases

>>52417186
Game's workshop's sales, you dingus. Not the AMERICAN miniature sales. And, I repeat myself, IN THE HALF-YEAR FINANCIAL REPORT YOU GODDAMM RETARD.

>>52417142
>I'am trying to imply that AoS aesthetic pretty close to MCU Asgard

But it's not. AoS doesn't look anything like the picture you posted. The Asguardians there look more similar to elves from Fantasy honestly. And the moster guy shares only one element with Stormcast design.

>>52417199
The 1st 3 months were focused on AoS. Also, it has caused growth because otherwise it wouldn't have made it to 4th `place, without accounting for GW stores to boot.

>>52417188
Sure looks like it. I regrettably bought the Flesh Eater Court book and I found the fluff to be mostly unreadable because of how cringe worthy it was.

>>52417171
>A small portion of it would do since the Fyreslayers are always spoiling for a fight.
Okay then how they called them?
>>52417175
>But the inspiration is obviously there,
Nope according to their visual design the inspiration was comics (since superhero movies are very popular among the largest market) and cartoonish video games.
Shit I'am pretty sure that in some thread some anon posted link or mentioned that AoS writters said they were inspired by New Gods and tales of Asgard.
>They're both armies fighting against the end of the world.
Wrong, since realms weren't destroyed in the age of chaos

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>>52417188
I wouldn't know. I am angling to field an army of Varanguard who are quite awesome and METAL.

>>52417188
No, that would be your post.

>>52417287
Not him. But your post doesn't make sense.

>>52417253
>The 1st 3 months were focused on AoS.
name any AoS release compared to Prospero, Deathwatch, Wulffen's curse and Wrath of Magnus.
>Also, it has caused growth because otherwise it wouldn't have made it to 4th `place, without accounting for GW stores to boot.
Or may be because Star Trek and Armada finally died, or may be because TWW is quite popular and all WHFb models now counts as AoS.

>>52417266
>Nope according to their visual design the inspiration was comics

Nope. Their visual inspiration was clearly Space Marines and specifically Sanguinary Guard.

>Wrong, since realms weren't destroyed in the age of chaos

But they were going to be. Again they're both armies fighting against the end of the world.

>>52417282
They literally tried to copy manga?
>Varanguard who are quite awesome and METAL.
Then why their mounts looks fatty like mlp?

>>52417266
>Okay then how they called them?

Fyreslayers can sense where Ur-Gold is located and there are Fyreslayers working in Shyish. Easy.

>Wrong, since realms weren't destroyed in the age of chaos

Archaon was corrupting the mortal realms for the entirety of the Age of Chaos and he was two steps away from destroying the Mortal realms and then Age of Sigmar started and delayed his plans. If Archaon is allowed to complete his plan then the Mortal Realms will be erased from existence just like the Old World.

>>52417326
>Space Marines and specifically Sanguinary Guard.
Only mask and chest plate
>But they were going to be.
They weren't after counless millenia.

>>52417362
>They weren't after counless millenia.

The Age of Chaos was only 200 years.

>>52417362
>Only mask and chest plate

Nope, the whole thing.

>They weren't after counless millenia.

Age of Chaos lasted for only a few hundred years.

>>52417287

I don't think you understand what Buyer's Remorse is mate

>>52417315
CoW was released in february, you moron.
During the summer months they released three armies and fucking generals handbook, all while doing a world wide campaign.

>Implying /v/tards are actually going to spend a game's worth in a box of models.

LMAO. Next time I'll hear that this year's adepticon didn't have 100+ players for AoS.

>>52417224
Let me sum up.

The total market of non-historical wargames has increased by 73% since 2012 (last time WHFB ranked third, as you said >>52416990).

However, If you compare the yearly reports of 2012 vs 2016, you can notice the revenue going from £134m to £118m, which is a loss of 12% of sales in the same interval of time.

>>52417410
Not him but your post almost reads like:
>I-I don't regret having bought WHFB now that it's dead boo-hoo.

>>52417356
>Fyreslayers can sense where Ur-Gold is located and there are Fyreslayers working in Shyish. Easy.
So somehow humans who lived like a slaves under tyrannical regime managed to collect gold? Seriously?
>Archaon was corrupting the mortal realms for the entirety of the Age of Chaos and he was two steps away from destroying the Mortal realms and then Age of Sigmar started and delayed his plans. If Archaon is allowed to complete his plan then the Mortal Realms will be erased from existence just like the Old World.
Oh come on, even power rangers survived after losing their winds while they've stand on the epicentre of massive blow

>>52417417
Lad, a fucking little amateur tournament in France had 150 people for KoW, are you implying AoS is doing good ?

>>52417428
... You know you're comparing the whole year of 2012 versus the FIRST half of their year, don't you? GW's financial years start in june and end in may.

>>52417469
Source? Your ass doesn't count.

>>52417401
>Nope, the whole thing.
Nope the the legs and hands are average full plate and shoulder from Lightbringer set from WoW
Even their chast plate are different from BA

>>52415284

>capable artists instead of this cg shit
>develop the setting on the individual mortal level
>make all old armies function as cohesive wholes
>square bases
>bring back old stat lines
>Settra

>>52417446

I don't regret having bought Fantasy? Of course.

Is English your second language mate, if so I feel bad

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>>52417453
>So somehow humans who lived like a slaves under tyrannical regime managed to collect gold? Seriously?

Easy. All they have to do is dig. Since they dig graves 24/7 they are bound to find some Ur-Gold.

>even power rangers survived

Winds and Malus saved them then. There will be nothing left if Archaon is completes his work now.

>>52417453
Oh yeah, Age of Sigmar totally reminds me of Power Rangers. It's the same level of cheesyness and the same villain tropes.

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>>52417479
Pretty sure I'm not.

>some dragon guy was friends with sigmar who was flying through space on a metal ball because he gave him a necklace

You what

>>52417567
>Since they dig graves 24/7 they are bound to find some Ur-Gold.
Well looks like it was very polite and progressive regime which allow workers to keep gold what they found.
>Winds
Was drained by Chaos in the last ET book.
>There will be nothing left if Archaon is completes his work now.
Or they will pull out of ass another Deus Ex Machina like Dragon Dracothion

>>52417511
>last year 108 players
https://www.tabletoptournaments.net/fr/t3_tournament.php?tid=15487
>this year 180 players
https://www.tabletoptournaments.net/fr/t3_tournament.php?tid=18162

>>52417567
Why does his helmet look so weird?

>>52417479

No mate, you're reading it wrong

>>52417620
Trying to copy Sauron

>>52417639
He needs to work on his symmetry and composition.

>>52417620

Yeah it looks like one of the horns is coming out the back of his helmet and the other out the side.

It's almost like they digitally composited it wrong.

>>52417525
>Nope the the legs and hands are average full plate and shoulder from Lightbringer set from WoW

Nope, you are utterly wrong.
Lightbringer armour has no sculpted muscle on the legs, or knee pads, it has cloth and leather straps holding the shin plates to the back of the leg and lacks segmentation of the armour in knees, elbows, armpits and groin like the SG and SC armours. In Addition both SC and SG armour pauldrons come in a single piece rather than the multiple segments of the Lightbringer armour.

>>52417567
>Winds and Malus saved them then.
And shitton of souls who weren't consumed by Chaos Gods for some reason

>>52417609
Actually, Dragon bro, an ancient enemy of Chaos, found the Slaan in their SPESS ships. As he examined the ships, the Slaan grief and pain entered his mind. He saw the fate of the Old World and felt saddened. He shed tears of stars that the Slaan used to guide themselves to the Mortal Realms.

He found Sigmar and Malus too. He befriended Sigmar because he was a kindred spirit and took him on space adventures until he led him to the Mortal Realms. No necklace needed. Dragon bro is just a bro. He is friends with anyone who opposes Chaos.

>>52417663
>Lightbringer armour has no sculpted muscle on the legs, or knee pads,
That's why I said "shoulders".
>muscle on the legs, or knee pads
No different from average full plate (but with much less detalisation), and totally nothing like anatomical armor on the legs and hands of BA, even chest much more simplified

>>52417698
That's some of the dumbest fluff I have ever read.

>>52417698
Yeah and appears out of nowhere with literally Deus Ex Machina purpose (reload reality)

Why are you manchildren so attached to the old world?
Things change, nothing lasts forever. Get used to it.
I personally find the new lore to be pretty cool. I like it a lot more than the old world.

Tilea - Italy
Estalia - Spain
Bretonnia - France
Empire - basically germany/austria
Araby - lol... arabs

>>52417616
>Well looks like it was very polite and progressive regime which allow workers to keep gold what they found.

Ur-Gold isn't gold. It's useless to anyone but Skaven and Fyreslayers.

>Was drained by Chaos in the last ET book.

Nope, fled through the rift and then went to space.

>Or they will pull out of ass another Deus Ex Machina like Dragon Dracothion

Nope. There would be no winds and Malus because Archaon would eat them all up.

>>52417674
Malus and the winds carried off the souls to safety.


>>52417745
Dragon bro is sp

>>52417594
Nope, you're outright reading the wrong year. You're reading the June 2015-May 2016 year. Bravo, you giant moron.

>>52417747
The real world is the most interesting setting, though. It's were all the things you like are made!

>>52417753
>Ur-Gold isn't gold.
Then what is it and why it's called gold.
Also FS runes made from this gold, right?
>Nope. There would be no winds and Malus because Archaon would eat them all up.
Oh come on such setting is AoS always have safe space.

>>52417769
speculated to be Sotek*

>>52417733
What do you have against Dragons?

>>52417632
>>52417594
>>52417479
Even worse, if you compare half year results from 2012 to the last (apparently stellar) half year results, there's a slight decrease at constant currency (62m vs 62,7m) this half year's growth for GW was a mathematical thing due to the pound dropping like a rock.

>>52417619
>inscription cost 40 euros.
>been running for multiple years in a row.
>Amateur.

You need the olympiads to qualify as hardcore or what?

>>52417786
Ur-Gold is basically C'tan shards of a broken dwarf god.

>>52417769
>Malus and the winds carried off the souls to safety.
Why if winds were consumed by warp and mallus was just a core of the world which was eaten by Chaos right after ET?
>Dragon bro is sp
>sp
wut?

>>52417775
I was comparing annual reports you double retard, the comparison of half year reports is there >>52417798.

>>52417717
>That's why I said "shoulders".

And I expalined the similarities between SC and SG armour and how it was different from Lightbringer.

>No different from average full plate

Except average full plate doesn't have sculpted muscle. It also doesn't typically flare at the bottom like space marine or stormcast armour does.

>and totally nothing like anatomical armor on the legs and hands of BA

Except it is very much like that. Less detail does not mean no inspiration from.

>>52417786
gold has a hundred meanings in Khazalid, the language of the dwarfs from warhammer.

>>52417786
>Then what is it and why it's called gold.

Just a name. Fyreslayers don't give a damn about normal gold.

>Also FS runes made from this gold, right?

Yes.

>Oh come on such setting is AoS always have safe space.

Nope. Everything ends if Archaon wins. There is nowhere to run this time.

>>52417808
>Ur-Gold is basically C'tan shards of a broken dwarf god.
And you didn't answer to my quetion

>>52417616
>Well looks like it was very polite and progressive regime which allow workers to keep gold what they found.

They could have just hidden any gold they found.

>Was drained by Chaos in the last ET book.

The winds escaped into space.

>>52417822
Yeah, and I was speaking of the half year of 2016-2017, where Fall of 2016 falls you brainless oaf. Don't go on a tangent and try to make it sound as if you were right you idiot.

>>52417816
I don't understand what you are trying to say.

>>52417853
But I am right, even when comparing 2012's uninteresting half year results, and 2016's stellar results you end up seeing that 2012 was better.

GUYS IF WE DON'T BUY AOS IT WILL FAIL AND GW WILL BRING BACK WFB!
>kek

>>52417840
C'tans are material Lovecraftian gods from 40k which were destroyed by the Necrons for being assholes. They remains as some kind of metal shards that contains their essence.

Ur-Gold is basically lifted from 40k with very little change.

>>52417889
because you are not comparing 2016. You're comparing 2015-2016. WoM, TL and all the rest are in the 2016-2017 which is why I'm calling you a dumbass because you've not connected the dots ye.

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>>52417823
>Except average full plate doesn't have sculpted muscle.
Except there is no detailed muscles on SC armor outside chest.
>how it was different from Lightbringer.
Yeah and ypu are keep ignoring tha I've talked about pauldrons
>Except it is very much like that.
Where? Everything except chestand head looks nothing like BA

>>52417911
Except that Ur-gold is not sentient or anyhing. It's just metal that the Fyreslayers use as source of power and drugs. Skaven use it as drugs too.

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>>52417931
2011/2012 half-year report

>>52417836
>Yes.
then why it's looks like gold on art with FS runes?
>There is nowhere to run this time.
The same was said in ET
>>52417849
>They could have just hidden any gold they found.
Then it's pretty stupid tyranny.
>The winds escaped into space.
So they weren't near to save the souls.

>>52417935
>Except there is no detailed muscles on SC armor outside chest.

Wrong. They have sculpted abs, back and calves.

>Yeah and ypu are keep ignoring tha I've talked about pauldrons

I explained how the pauldrons were different as well.

>Where? Everything except chestand head looks nothing like BA

Chest, head, abs, legs, elbow pads, pauldrons.

>>52417985
In 2016-2017 they did 71 millions.

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>>52417985
>>52417931
2016/2017 half-year report (the last one)

There you are.

Revenue at constant currency
2011/12 : 62m
2016/17 : 62.7m

Meanwhile the whole market grew up by 73%

>>52417988
>Then it's pretty stupid tyranny.

Sure, but people have always been able to hide things from their government.

>So they weren't near to save the souls.

They were as the souls retained a connection to the winds.

>You will never be as pathetic and autistic as Slavposter.

He doesn't even play ANY traditional game folks. He literally does nothing but shitpost about /tg/ games.

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OP here.

I'm sorry for creating this thread and AoSfags are the worst fucking shitposters on the board.

>>52417988
>then why it's looks like gold on art with FS runes?

Ever head of fools gold?

>The same was said in ET

Nope. The ET books and novels continuously said that there is an escape or a new world that will be formed after the old one dies.

>>52418097
They're not the ones making hate threads constantly because you're butthurt about their setting.

>>52418048
They killed themselves pretty hard in 2014. I mean, they are picking the slack (much to my chargrin).

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>>52415576
>Desperate Fantasyfags
>>52415618
>You should by older than 8 years
>>52415658
>You're like a battered wife.
>>52415725
>If you try hanging yourself
>>52415752
>The average 4chan poster
>>52415756
>neckbeard virgin grognards
>>52415767
>angry neckbeards
>>52415783
>crackwhore
>>52415806
>Pear type cucklet detected.
>>52415807
>worse than the vanilla wow fags
>>52415835
>, you're a crackwhore who has no crack so you're left licking up salty pubes from the bathroom floor.
>>52415871
>another neckbeard
>>52415880
>>Fantashit
>>52415974
>secretly wants for GW's cock
>>52416058
>AoSIDF is throwing a childish tantrum
>>52416093
>Fantashit
>>52416100
>Fantasyfags
>>52416107
>/v/tards
>>52416161
>spastic neckbeard
>>52416231
>Reddit
>>52416556
>butthurt
>>52416678
>whfb butthurt bias
>>52416717
>For kids
>>52417146
>fantasyfag

>>52418199
>Reeeeeeeeee

>>52418199
Yup. It's like talking with a 10 year old that has learned 4chan lingo.

>>52418247
So like talking to a slav?

>>52418199
>only one (You)
Notice me sempai

>>52418270
All the slavs I talk to online has manners.

>>52418123
see
>>52402013

>>52418369
That's a 40kfag dude, wanting to cull the hobby. THey hate each other bitterly.

>>52417806
>40€ per team entry fee for the frog tourney
>$30 entry fee for the adepticon
Well it's comparable.

>>52418123
>hate thread
>"how do we fix x"

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>>52418369
40kids and AoS fags are the worst kind of autists.

>>52418508
>Terrible AoS setting
>Not a hate thread.

It's literally a /v/ tier meme

>>52418544
It is a terrible setting, though. It's like a 12 year old wrote it.

>>52418543
And what do you play?

>>52418543
Once I was at my LFGS and a 40k player started trash talking two 8yo kids playing AoS for playing such a shit game. I told him to cut it out but the kids were kinda sad after that.

>>52418491
Different anon.
It's 44 dollars versus 30, it's a 50% more. I'm definitely not paying that much in order to spend time with frenchment.

>>52418780
Rude
The entry fee is 40€ per team of 4 tho.

>>52418867
Fair point, but it's just a tournament. Adepticon had more things going (and less frogs).

>>52415284
How does that chest minigun work? Does this giant rat have a minigun implanted into his chest where the lungs should be?

>>52418964
It has burgers tho.
>neckbearded burgers
the stench bust be horrible

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>>52418125
>They killed themselves pretty hard in 2014
This. When they switched from multi-man stores to single-man stores they performed an economic fuckup that they have only now (as in this year) recovered from.

>>52418610
I'm in between games. I might pick up the 8'th edition of 40k.

>>52419019
That's what they expect you to think, yes.

>>52419164
Careful with overinterpreting stock prices, you have to put it into comparison with the british pound dropping to an ounce.

Basically last year all brit stocks have mechanically raised by 20% since the pound dropped by 20%. It doesn't necessarily reflects economical performance.

>>52419401
Different anon (and desu, I don't give half a fuck of all this debate you guys are having over AoS)
Even then, you're looking at the highest stock prices. EVER. Not even with the craze of the LOTR did they get this values, adjustments be damned.

>>52418060
>but people have always been able to hide things from their government.
Say it to North Koreans.
>They were as the souls retained a connection to the winds.
Since fucking when?