How do we save fantasy /tg/ ?

>>52413366
By enjoying what we like and hate what we don't like.

>>52413366
Give Dorf Fort a tutorial and graphics that visually don't look like the matrix when it glitches.

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>>52413366
By not bitching about inevitable change and just let fantasy be whatever you want it to be.

>>52413366
By realizing fantasy isn't one specific thing, and in fact has no rules to define what it is and is not.

>>52413438
>>52413458
These niggas know how the game works.

>>52413366
It needs saving?

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>>52413366
Leave it to slavs.

>>52413366
>screencap comparing two video games
>somehow OP thinks this is appropriate content to post on /tg/

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>>52413558
>Posting Cuck-cher
>Good fantasy
Bulgarians have better mythology.

>>52413558

Shit game desu

>>52413366
By not letting marvelcomic mentality (a.k.a. Capeshit) and checklists of what should and should not be included define how to build a setting. Your world should always be grown, not constructed, and rarely show the full range of events in clear detail.

>>52413558

>Spam left-click simulator

>Good game

>>52413947
>Capeshit
/tv/ really is a shit board.

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>>52413366
Play the good games, ignore the bad ones.

Or, play good classic games. There are enough of them to keep you occupied for a lifetime.

>>52413366
I dunno. Produce fresh and interesting creations?

>>52413987
Capeshit is a legit problem, though.

>>52413366
Let a setting be a setting
Hate it if you hate it
Love it if you love it

>>52415106
*Bad writers

>>52415153
Nah, the entire structure that DC and Marvel has is fucking garbage.

>>52415237
I agree, but the point still stands that the quality of capeshit has nothing to do with the current quality or perceived lack thereof in fantasy since they're two completely separate genres.

>>52413947
I don't get the capeshit hate here. Is this like a recent thing from the movies or something? What's exactly wrong with capeshit?

>>52413366
I knwo this is /tg/ that I'm talking to, but wasn't there a new game based on the numenara universe, old rpg style ?
Did someone here try it ?

>>52415371
It's generally poorly written and it's marketed to emotionally stunted neckbeards.

>>52414695
What game is that on the right?

>>52415377
Torment: Tides of Numenera. It's good. Runs off the Pillars engine, but feels different. I have some hope for CRPGs.

>>52413366
I'm not going to the gameplay of Dragon Age 2 was good by any means, but it was better than Baldur's gate et. all, which consisted of blindly clicking on things because you can't see whats going.

>>52415413
Explain this further. At the moment you have given a generalized statement that people often give for /tg/ things far more than comic books although it doesn't exactly fit either.

>>52415444
torment tides of numera i think

>>52413668
>>52413971
Shit taste desu

>>52415540
It's basically functions like a soap opera which is one of the lowest forms of entertainment.

>>52415635
You suck at elaborating. This is no different from saying pnp rpgs function like fanfiction which is one of the lowest forms of entertainment and escapist fantasy.

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>>52413646
>>52413668
>>52413971
Here's your (you).

>>52415467
Care to elaborate a little ? Do you mean decent or definitively worth buying ?

>>52413366
It doesn't need saving. Your "now" is a single instance from six years ago and never applied to tabletop RPGs anyway.

>>52415444
Tides of Numenera. It's the "spiritual sequel" to Planescape: Torment.

>>52413436
>Give Dorf Fort a tutorial and graphics that visually don't look like the matrix when it glitches

get out you fucking casual

>>52415711
numale era is a game made by monty cock, a man with ties to pizzagate who ate a human penis

Anyone know if Divinity Original Sin is at all playable on console or is it only worth getting for PC?

>>52414695
>same character in both conversations

Good work.

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>>52415601
>>52415674

Keep telling yourself you didn't waste 60 lindens on a shit waifu simulator with a piss poor game attached.

>>52413366
it astounds me that after literal decades of growth and evolution of a type of gaming which is 110% influenced and controlled by the people playing it, the individual people choosing to engage in the activity, that you still find ways to complain and generally act like an entitled little shit about people having badwrongfun

first, fuck off back to /v

second, kys yourself you jaded asshole, you probably don't even play traditional games

>>52413558
Isn't the Witcher an Elric knock-off because Elric wasn't allowed in Poland for some reason?

>>52415672
If I may attempt a more in-depth explanation:

What I have come to interprete to be "Capeshit" is a theme in fictional writing that firstly puts flashy, superficial concepts before the implied substance, secondly forces the scale and dimension of the plot/setting to ever greater proportions than originally intended and thirdly that almost always remains in an unsatisfying good vs. evil plot. A fourth point is to always, ALWAYS, give your races superpowers of some sort.

The first point is obvious. Daily do we have threads revolving around "how do you elf?" being filled to the brim with people's attempts of originality, and often enough are they poor colour palette swaps of some kind and rarely something that truly sets them apart from traditional ideas. In tripple A games and pop-fantasy do we find these things just as rampant, where elves, dwarves or any other race are advertised as being different but only through a miniscule detail that doesn't really change them at all from fantastical races in other settings.

The second point is best observed in Marvel/DC trying to bring all superheroes together despite none of them actually having any personal connection at all to fight equally distinct supervillains. What once started as Batman messing up the Joker's organised crime suddenly becomes the latter rallying with Lex Luthor to steal god's cockring to summon satan to cause EVIL while the Justice League must join with their parallel dimensional counterparts to avert the apocalypse. This is not a natural evolution of the story but authors trying to maintain suspense by unnecessarily upping the powerlevel.

[cont.]

>>52419952
The third point is admittedly disputable, as I am aware that people enjoy this more than others. Overall speaking, although I know newer generations of comic books try to make their heroes more edgy and their villains more relatable, the tone remains that we should always root for Superman, Batman, Spiderman and even the Hulk and always hope that Lex Luthor, the Joker, the Green Goblin and whoever is Hulk's archnemesis should lose. It doesn't matter how much their tragic backstory is exposed and their mental workings are being explained, the villains are the villains, while no matter how much the heroes overstep boundaries, they should be liked because their failing in itself is handwaved as a tragedy where the experience alone is punishment enough. In traditional fantasy with its dark lords and evil sorcerors, we find the black/white dichotomy, as well, however in this scenario we are allowed to be unapolectically simple in our perception of our enemy. They are doing shit that puts us at a disadvantage, so we're allowed to stab them with flaming swords. We can wholeheartedly buy into hating the villain and feel genuinely good when he gets necked.

The fourth point is my personal gripe. Fantasy races, and in some instances humans as well, always "need" to have that one racial superpower that allows those elves to levitate and those orcs to summon spines to shoot at enemies and such halflings to propel their feces with a good 40 kmh. While I see this to have good reason in gameplay, I find it an abhorrent concept in fluff, and it galls me even more when fluff is built so strongly around those ingame superpowers that it basically destroys any sense of culture and society. A race that has explicit superpowers to be great stealth archers would never ever develop or integrate into a society that has no more need of such a particular set of abilities, but for some reason are well adjusted and accepted members of the non stealth-archer society.

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>>52419952
>a theme in fictional writing that firstly puts flashy, superficial concepts before the implied substance, secondly forces the scale and dimension of the plot/setting to ever greater proportions than originally intended and thirdly that almost always remains in an unsatisfying good vs. evil plot
This is one of the things I liked about the original Torment. It was a high-stakes, high-power campaign, but it wasn't about saving the world. Whether you were good or evil, it was ultimately about saving yourself. And that's why the game let's you play a truly convincingly evil character instead of an edgy anti-hero - you aren't being shoehorned into saving the world by the plot.

>>52416277
Fuck off old fag

>>52413366
Baldurs gate 3 produced by _____
Characters and Story written by _____
Released on ____
Based on the tabletop system _____

>>52413366
less romance more dragon slaying

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>>52413366
> How do we save fantasy /tg/ ?
Obsidian Entertainment writes the plot, the dialogues and the setting (Alpha Protocol, New Vegas, Stick of Truth, KotoR 2, Mask of the Betrayer etc).
Someone else does the actual gameplay (depends on the genre, but I'd honestly give it to either CD-Projekt, 2K Games or maybe Square Enix - I'm not entirely sure).

>>52421017
>produced by 2K Games
>Written by Obsidian
>Released on PC/Mac/Linux and maybe iOS/Android
>based on whatever is your favorite

>>52415413
so basically the movies are just like the comic books. which makes them good, faithful adaptations.

>>52421189
Warhammer Fantasy

>>52417390
You sure showed me in this bait thread.

>>52421148
I just couldn't play Alpha Protocol. The dialogue timer went down faster than I could read many responses. Shit mechanic.

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>>52421436
How slow do you read, dude? That, and you realize that the options were basically picrelated in EVERY dialogue, right?
For me it was a perfect mechanic, to be honest, because it perfectly simulated the dialogue flow and it was cinematic as fuck instead of the usual shit where you took your sweet time, making the dialogue look like two robots conversing.

>>52421017
>Baldurs gate 3 produced by Obsidian
>Characters and Story written by Chris Avellone
>Released on PC
>Based on the tabletop system DnD 5e

>>52421436
I couldn't play it either.

First shooting segment popped up, I gave it a try, said 'fuck it' and got a refund on the game.

>>52421727
It's really unfortunate that Obsidian is incapable of making a good original game for shit, even though their writing is stellar.
As for Alpha Protocol, the game heavily favors pistols and stealth. Like, the game becomes infinitely more tolerable if you don't spec into useless shit.

>>52421791
Probably just better to watch it for the story on youtube then.

>>52421819
You miss a LOT if you don't play it proper. There is just a lot of interactions and non-linearity in the game.

>>52417492
The design is a knock-off, the short stories themselves are not and orientate themselves more on original fairy tales

>>52421507
> read
That shit was voice acted man, if you read the fuck ahead it's cheating. Like >>52421436 I would kill for a mod that just made that bar like 5s longer, and I didn't have any problems with the combat.

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>>52415592
>>52415467
>>52416196
nu-men era has its own share of problems

>>52421901
> if you read the fuck ahead it's cheating
What is subtitles?

>>52417390
if he wanted to do that, he would have bought a bioware game

>>52421908
Is there supposed to be a problem with this beyond it making you screech like a /pol/ autist?

>>52422127
>>/tumblr/

>>52417492
I think the extent of the similarities is that they're both called "the white wolf" and both have swords.

The Witcher is about a monster hunter getting tangled up in life's bs and inadvertently getting caught up in a big conspiracy of sorts and saying "fuck it" and trying to force his will on the world.

Great novels, great videogames (plot), mediocre to great videogames (gameplay).

Season of storms, Last wish, sword of destiny, blood of elves...lady of the lake, Witcher videogames (technically not canon).

Waiting for the Tabletop RPG to come out, still no official release date.

The audible audiobooks are good, too.

>>52422127
Please get off this site, you pathetic sack of regression.

>>52422157
>>52422174
You probably weren't even on 4chan before 2011, let alone before 2007. It's funny how /pol/cucks are just like immigrants refusing to adapt to the culture they've invaded :^)

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>>52422127
>gender is only cultural in an objective sense for all sentient being
>"maybe there is a place in the Beyond where all the women are strong an brilliant and all the men are weak and subservient"
>he thinks femdom fetishes based on false stereotypes make for good lore

wew

>>52421908
I'm less offended by this than the use of she as a GNP throughout the entire book.

Presumably this is confined to a small number of pages.

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>>52422209
There was literally nothing special about 2007 chan , and /new/ existed before /pol/ and it still had people who disagreed with you on politics.

Does this rustle you?
Does this make you mad?
Are you upset?

There is no need to be triggered.

>>52422209
Please, I've been here since day one.
Now, fuck off, and take your bullshit back to /tumblr/ or to the /lgbt/ containment board.

Or, if you want to discuss WHY you're a retard, go to /pol/, and open up the debate on why you need to get yourself either educated or murdered.

>>52422227
>"maybe there is a place in the Beyond where all the women are strong an brilliant and all the men are weak and subservient"

You mean like in reality, right now? Where "men" are busy posting frog cartoons and tracking down Shia's flags and whining on an anime image board and women are going out and being strong and independent? :^)

>>52422209
>>52422282
Ah, a troll.
Here's your last reply.

>>52422282
how dare you assume my gender? Check your privilege, shitlord. :^)

>>52422255
>>52422264
>newfags that came post-2011 and have never been to the now non-existent guro and loli boards spotted

>>52422304
I'm sure screeching on an anime imageboard will make you feel better about living in the new era, my virginal friend :^)

>>52422319
>>/2chan/

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>>52422343
>tfw know for a fact men and women who stay virgins until they are married are far happier than people who engage in mindless peer pressure due to over exposure to porn and peer pressure enforced by toxic pop culture

Also sending nudes + getting tatoos are for degenerates

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Decimation and a warning to not be fags.

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>>52422378
Holy shit

There's no way you're honestly trying to use this as a defense for not being able to get laid

s m h f a m

By killing it.

>>52422391
>cracked style history-made-fun-meme
>Jerking off the myth of American Guerrilla warfare
Its like I'm back in 2009 again.

>>52415283
>they're two completely separate genres.
Superheroes are literally a subgenre of Fantasy.

>>52422378
You must be fun at parties

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>>52422428
>not being able to get laid

topkek if anything its too easy to get laid in this day and age. There is nothing impressive about it in the slightest when you can be a 400 lbs sweaty hacker known as "4chan" and pretty much get laid by whoever you want.

I don't know what you think women are like, but in my extremely liberal city sex is easier than breathing. I know it might shock you, but sometimes men have standards.

>>52422494
Sure kiddo, keep your "N-N-N-Nuhuh! I-I j-j-j-just don't w-want to!"

I'm sure it'll make you feel better when you die alone :^)

>>52422494
By any chance does this coincide with your religious code of ethics on sexuality.

>>52422482
I drink a lot desu

I just don't want to engage in the hook up culture because it makes people miserable and ruins decent folk. I have no problems with getting a bit trashed every now and then, but I keep it at a minimum.

I walked away from that kind of "muh drugs muh women" culture in hs after i realized the people who did it always had problems either with the drugs or they were using the drugs and women to escape their problems.

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>>52422451
Don't be mad that the nine others in your troop will beat you to death with socks full of dice.

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>>52422378
>>52422494
Jesus Christ you're pathetic

>>52422557
>religious

pantheist I'm not actually a bible thumper, but i do believe in some form of spirituality. But yeah, growing up around what "the party life" actually means I'm against it. What usually happens is someone has a rough first break up then they bury themselves in women/men and drugs. I know plenty of people who got permafried on hallucinogens/ became cokefiends. I'll leave it at that.

>>52416444
Most games are only worth getting for PC.

>>52413558
Witcher doesn't actually have that much choice. It's literally always 2 or 3 options.

>>52422558
Which all makes sense except you specifically say waiting until Marriage which is entirely removed from having standards or avoiding hook up culture.

Even if its an insistance on monogamy, making it legally binding before even fucking is nonsense and is exactly why people who get married earlier in life and in their relationships get divorced at higher rates.

The purity of virginity is bullshit, just have safe sex with exclusive partners like /actual/ adults and not retreat into literal patriarchal bullshit.

>>52422525
topkek people who have sex feel alone as well, hell I'm usually the one who has to listen to their bs.

i wouldn't recommend the life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9QHak8h1AQ

>>52422672
...do you not understand how sad you sound when you're actually grouping people up into things like "people who have sex"?

>>52422229
>Presumably this is confined to a small number of pages.
It's its own supplement.

>>52422605
Whatever you say bud

>>52422664
Look, people like to LARp about how sex is just something like drinking where you can have sex with someone and not have a connection, which first of all if you think this way you might want to look this up

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder

People who don't get connected to people have extreme anti-social personality traits, society shouldn't romantacize malfunction. I see it all the time

>hurr you're not going to be emotional about this, right like its just nothing right?
>*10 beers later he/she starts crying afterwards because they are sane people*
>society sees this as being weak

Its degenerate. If you value hedonism you're valuing moral decay and I see what it does to people firsthand. Some people go nuts.

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>>52422672
>I would not recommend a life I desperately want

>>52422715
People can have sex in a relationship and still feel alone. So yes, people who have sex can still feel alone. Never been around people who get mad when the girls cry afterward i take it?

topkek you're not a virgin after all, lol right?

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>>52422739
>Projection - a form of defense in which unwanted feelings are displaced onto another person, where they then appear as a threat from the external world. A common form of projection occurs when an individual, threatened by his own angry feelings, accuses another of harbouring hostile thoughts.

No actually I do not want to do drugs and bury myself in women to escape my problems. I'm fine. Bringing sex into a relationship complicates things whether you want to admit it or not, and it should anyways.

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>>52422672
>people who have sex is a specific demographic

>>52422760
You're REALLY missing the point that post is trying to convey, but I guess that's not a surprise considering the autismo meter readings I'm getting here.

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>>52422800
>he literally cannot understand the point

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_mean_(philosophy)

Its a concept in Aristotlien Virtue Ethics you plebian moron. When you say

>virgins are sad

saying they are a demographic, what then besides your own a priori notions of acceptable behavior makes it wrong for me to state a basic fact that

>people who have sex can feel alone

as well?

>>52422731
Even better.

>>52422797
>Bringing sex into a relationship complicates things whether you want to admit it or not, and it should anyways.
Part of being a responsible adult is also dealing with it maturely, anon.
I have never actually slept with a woman I didn't know for some time before we fucked, I need that prior connection (also to know if she is clean, what turns her on, shit like that), and while it doesn't always come out to roses, I also accept that as the nature of the thing.
People are complicated, dawg, and it's a constant learning process.

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>>52422844
How long have you been dating your current gf

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>>52422760
>>52422797
>>52422834
There is no way you're honestly this autistic

>>52422797
>Self deception
>the action or practice of allowing oneself to believe that a false or invalidated feeling, idea, or situation is true.

I enjoy sex, I enjoy alcohol in moderation. I have no problems with which I need to hide from. Though I am confused, are you saying I want to have sex or do not?

>>52422858
My current gf?
6 years in total, we broke up several years ago, then got back together to make it work, why?
I get this feeling you are trying to be a cunt by making an assumption you are incredibly wrong about.

>>52422733
Except you're ruling out all of the connections short of marriage. One night stands are not even vaguely how most people get laid outside of marriage.

Are you telling me you won't even fuck a girlfriend who is exclusive to you until you have a ceremony and make it legal? Or do you feel like you should be liable to lose half your shit in a god awful divorce when a key aspect of an intimate relationship doesn't pan out?

If you hate it so much in your liberal city feel free to move to Utah where everyone has your ethics and you can experience all of the bullshit firsthand when young adults create shitty family units because they need the Prophet's approval to fuck.

The rest of us, including the scientific consensus, can manage to deal with our relationships without biblical interpretations of morality.

Seriously, just fuck less people and be safe about it and you can still plan on marrying someone you like AND like fucking.

>>52422871
ITT: people who confuse self control with autism and newfags who can't read the thread

Yeah, i came from a pretty messed up area and I;ve had a pretty messed up life, got offered the drugs and women or whatever, then left it.

I don't like the way people date anymore either because must of the time it hinges on sex. I'm not into that, I'm especially not into the fact that that this "hook up culture" is now a norm in my liberal as shit city that everyone expects from you.

I'd rather just save myself for marriage. But keep on being edgelords about it

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>>52422895
Guess what happens after most break ups, for most people who aren't you?

>>52422900
>implying he could ever get a girlfriend at all

He probably wouldn't even be able to land a fat uggo, anon

>>52413436
Search for Dwarf Fortress tutorial PDF on google, should find a book to teach you the basic things.

>>52422912
>I'd rather just save myself for marriage
Then go ahead and do that, anon, but don't claim superiority from a personal choice.
One of my closest friends waited until marriage, and he didn't lord it over myself or any of his friends, or try to tell us how wrong we were.
>>52422926
I give a fuck about other people?
I should give a fuck about the decisions that other people make in their lives?
Where are you getting this idea that the conduct of others reflects on me, or is worthy of my concern?

>>52422883
>doesn't even know what projection is

A thread of literal retards. After I said i don't want a life of sex and drugs or want to bang a bunch of train wrecks, you said

>but you do tho

Which is projection. I live around extremely "liberal" women and I'm not into that. I also don't want to date some jesus freak despite me agreeing with her that sex needs to be rethought of.

>>52413646
>Witch my shit up senpai

>>52422956
>I give a fuck about other people?

Yes. Thats why you're a degenerate/ I actually care about what goes on in the lives of other people. I will claim absolute superiority for it because the culture you generate is a destructive force in society that ruins people, but because you are of the few where this culture "worked" for, you don't care.

I'm just not into hedonistic/ egocentric behavior, and i think other people need to stop for the benefit of others, dawg

>>52422157
>>52422174
>>52422227
Are you guys retarded? The game is going "This is fiction so gender and sex and be whatever we want" is an admittance that it's all bullshit. That it's all completely untrue. Stop assuming the world is out to get you.

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>>52422967
>>52422993
>e-e-everyone's l-l-laughing at me f-for desperately t-t-trying to defend my s-status as a p-p-permavirgin, they m-must be r-r-retards!

>>52422993
>>52422967
Tipped your hand, anon.
The amusing thing is that even if you were serious, the only thing you are doing is proving your own egomania by passing sweeping judgment on others.
Shit, my gf thinks you are a chump who is using excuses and highfalutin mentality to mask your own insecurities, and I agree with her.
Anon, you can live your life however you choose, but don't for a second think you are somehow "better" because you made a personal choice that affects no one save yourself. You aren't helping society, you are withdrawing from it, and their is no claim to honor or dignity from that.
Have a good night.

>how do we save fantasy
>autistic screeching about real life

could all of you leave this board forever

that would be great

>>52423042
I don't get to live my life however i choose, if i had, i would've been a thug dealing drugs and shooting people. You don't get to enforce a society that is fine single motherhood and extremely high divorce rates.

You are a traitor to children everywhere, have a good one.

>>52423021
Whats wrong with being a vrigin

>>52423042
>and their is no claim to honor or dignity from that.

From what? Not wanting all my friends to to kill themselves/ become addicts because of bad break ups and whlie living in a society that glorifies that kind of behavior?

You're sick in the head.

>>52423132
Just fuck off back to /pol/ or /r9k/ or whatever shithole you crawled out of, and stay there.

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>>52423132
>>52423159
Could anyone imagine being this deluded, sad, and autistic?

You legitimately have my pity.

>>52423174
>hurr i can just do whatever I want and there are no consequences to my actions at all. Just because i notice no problems must mean there are no problems

So what kind of hs did you go to?

>>52423076
My thoughts too.

To be honest I don't think there is a problem with modern fantasy. It's more about videogames expanding their target audience.

Although there is something to be said for trying to discourage sjws from trying to shoehorn identity politics into /tg/ for no raisin.

>>52423185
>cmon guys I'm right, right

Difference between you and me? I don't need emotional validation from others. But of course that kind of self control is no longer promoted

>>52421908
LMAO! Epic fail!

>>52423197
>shoehorn identity politics into /tg/
Considering that D&D in the 80s had a nonbinary gender/genderfluid god, whose people made in his image could do the same, where is your "shoehorn" coming from, other than the ignorance of people these days to the settings they are dealing with?
/tg/ games were whitewashed expressly due to the religious right's outrage, but that is entirely ok because it doesn't impinge on you?
>>52423223
Your MGTOW nonsense is cute, but it falls apart like wet paper under any sort of critical analysis.
We get it, you do you.

>>52423223
You're mistaking a need for validation for being laughed at and communally mocked, bud.

>>52423195
That was my first post in the thread; I happened to see your autistic sperg on the front page and figured you needed a reminder that you belong with the rest of the retards, not here. So fuck off, or better yet kill yourself.

>>>/v/
All of you

>>52423260
>MGTOW

Wtf i already told you i want to get married MGTOW just doesn't want to have relationships at all. Holy kek, so in the year of our lord 2017 and relationship that doesn't have sex is not a relationship?

Alrright bud.

>critical analysis
>keeps saying "we"

So far the only critical analysis has been accusations that I'm either a deficient male who doesn't know that he really wants to be like everyone else, smug anime faces, and a lot of dawgs and "you do you"'s.

None of which are arguments, moral relativism is a cancer and appeal to the a priori assumptions of the majority does is not an appeal based on logos.

In fact the only argument so far has been anecdotal evidence.

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>>52422993
>egocentric behavior, and i think other people need to stop for the benefit of others, dawg

>Not in to egocentric behavior
>Thinks others should do what he thinks
>Thinks everybody should stop having all the sex
>Thinks life is better when people don't have sex
>Thinks his life is better for not having sex

>>52423281
i think you're mistaking that being a part of the commune that laughs instead of engaging in discussion comes from a need for validation Topkek

guess you've never heard of Levinas have you?

>>52423338
>being egocentric
>disagreeing with the zeitgeist of others based on rational conclusions

Like... whats your IQ at i can't even comprehend how someone couldn't take 20-30 seconds to read through the google search definition of "egocentric"

>>52413366
By realizing in 99% of those old games, most of those dialogue options would get you the same response no matter who you talked to about it.

>>52423338
plus by virtue of being egocentric it would mean I'm not even able to understand the other side. I can easily undertsand the appeals of wanting sex before marriage and jerking off all the rime, because I used to desire the same then moved away from it after seeing what happened to everyone around me.

I get it, it feels good, peer pressure, you've been told "ah fuck it do whatever you want" your whole life, and its a base impulse. I get wanting to feel connected to someone as well. I'm just saying that it would be a better social more of our society to stop being so liberal with sexuality.

Because it leads to bad break ups that ends up hurting a lot of people and has a lot of health issues associated with it.

>>52423260
>>52423260
>Considering that D&D in the 80s had a nonbinary gender/genderfluid god,
Nothing wrong with that. Look at slanesh and similar stuff that's been part of /tg/ for ages.

Although, it's generally meant to be weird or fantastic. Not "THIS IS NORMAL AND EVERYONE SHOULD ACCEPT THAT THIS IS PERFECTLY NORMAL"

I'm talking stuff like WIzards having to apologize for Triumph of Ferocity because people thought that it was promoting violence against women.

I just want to play my nerd games in piece without having to to worry about the art direction being misogynistic. Or people telling me that a setting based on medieval Europe with fantasy races thrown in, isn't diverse enough.

>>52423379
>rational conclusions

They are not rational, they are irrational. Disagreeing with the current zeitgeit is being conservative, finding yourself bereft of female attention then claiming it as your standard is not a failure, not a counterculture. . The remainder of your post is ad-hominen.

Your arguments are irrational because frequent sex and socialization has been shown to reduce stress, increase mental ability, improve cardiovascular health.

The need to compete for female attention encourages better physical strength, assertiveness, intelligence and more.

>>52413558
I want to make my own character.

>>52423418
Not to detract from well deserved checking of old game nostalgia faggotry; it was way easier to have a shit ton of dialogue when its just adding text. Today every possible tangent in the conversation would need voice acting from both parties, plus however many different player voices, that was modular enough to take in to account extra parts added by responses (good/bad response dichotomy bullshit) all while providing enough information to be useful but enough padding to seem real.

The hours it takes to do one awkward Mass Effect dialogue about your totally fine and widely accepted homosexual feelings for aliens doesn't compare to lining up lots of text for the player to prompt.

>>52423466
>implying that virgin beta knows anything about physical strength, assertiveness, or intelligence

>>52423466
>reduce stress, increase mental ability, improve cardiovascular health.

Maybe sex in moderation. In our actual culture it actually it increases chances of STD's, leads to more single motherhood by the virtue of a which in itself leads to massive spikes in anti-social personality trait and prison incarceration rates, increased abortion rates (which costs a lot of money payed through taxes or not), you have birth control (costs money, manipulated your hormones), and lowers life expectancy.

Porn is associated with increased likelihood for Erectile dysfunction and increases anti-social behavior as well, and of course porn addiction lets not forget that. This is just the medical benefits, let not even go into the socioeconomic benefits.

You know whats funny that you just listed? I listed things that happen on a community wide basis, you listed things that only affect people on the personal basis. All of those problems could be solved if people got married at young ages and never divorced as well.

>the need to attract a female
>the only purpose in life that keeps people motivated

gee does your family, community, and nation's well being just not matter anymore is everything only about getting gf, having casual sex, then disconnecting from the planet? You realize people can pursue their goals for more reasons than just getting laid, right?

>>52423553
>implying you have to be part of the broke back boys who have sex with everything to know moral character

Sure thing pal. I'm definitely in better shape then you, and I'm definitely smarter than you. the fact that you're making an ad hominem and an appeal to majority at the same time is pretty telling of this.

>g-g-guys? I'm right r-r-right guys?
>hahaha like i-i didn't make a mistake somewhere, right?

Problem with sci-fi and fantasy is that its been infested by pseudo intellectuals that think they're smart about reading about space princesses or dragons but don't want to be bogged down by science or consistency.

Fantasy has been a stagnant well of Tolkien rehashes for years, with old franchises like Conan being the only respite from sword and sorcery bullshit. People want more of what they thing is awesome, and less novel alien ideas. Its not even like they love the medieval period since they insist on an anachronistic cartoony version that discourages any actual understanding of preindustrial society.

Tolkien studied Germanic folklore and stole from Vogner's Der Ring des Nibelungen to create his world, he invented languages and histories that would never really be encountered in any book, and he created cultures that went beyond being monolithic banners for races.

>>52420256
>that description of selling Dak'kon into slavery

I just stopped playing right there and still can't bring myself to ever reload that save file.

Fantasy does not need saving because things change. Trying to fix it by trying force it to be like the "golden age" will cause more problem than it would solve as the world is not the same as back then and those golden ages are never as great as morons say they were. You have to go with the flow and look forwards not backwards.

>>52423602
>implying you can even bench your bodyweight

>>52423578
>gee does your family, community, and nation's well being just not matter anymore is everything only about getting gf, having casual sex, then disconnecting from the planet? You realize people can pursue their goals for more reasons than just getting laid, right?
Hate to burst your bubble but actually pretty fucking rare. The vast majority of people the only accomplishment to their community will be to roll dice to have a child who will actually give a damn and will die doing nothing but filling a void that frankly a well animal that could move money around would just as easily accomplish. The only time community actually exists is in small (less than a thousand people probably more on the hundereed side but I'll be generous) and resource scarce, only when you absolutely need to rely on anyone else. The reason why today's world is so antisocial is you don't need to be social, in fact thats a determent to modern society, shit has to move quick no time for pleasantry unless you're swindingly someone out of their money or making a deal.

If you look at this era right now you'll see people do indeed love to fucking get involved in the family, continuity, and, oh wait nationalism is terrible it's best to just let your first world countries fall into anti social ruin so we'll skip that, but only if they expend no effort and can just act really indignant and angery to other people who do no effort.

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>>52423466
>>52423553
If sex is so great then why are 40%-50% of black children born out of wedlock and why does total # of sexual partners correlate with overall happiness which decreases steadily as # of partners increase? Or is that only due to slut shaming and not the fact that women have a finite amount of reproductive cycles and eventually hit menopause then, after not having kids, become miserable old hags?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NyzCJx4IiI

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>>52423789
>tfw not at 2pl8 yet for bench

sh-shut up! Yeah i fell for the Rippetoe meme now I'm a t-rex.

>>52422993
>not into egocentric behavior while actively being egocentric

>>52423872
Again, disagreeing with people and demanding that they change their lives is not inherrently egocentric. An egocentric person does this but what makes someone egocentric when they argue id cognitive dissonance. So if I just kept repeating the same thing ad infinitum no matter what facts were presented to me, then I would be egocentric.

Egocentric also usually implies selfish, self centered, although if you want to go into the legalese over it, I'm basically just using it synonymous with "selfish" where people are operating under a priori concepts.

Dragon Age 2 is actualy a great RPG.
Combat is pretty fun.
It's just 2/3s of the companions are cringey as fuck.
And that there's like 5 locations constantly reused, all the time.
Then Act 3 is god awful.

The game could've been fucking amazing if it'd been given 1 more year.

>>52423830
>happiness scale that is based on male perspective
How misogynistic of you, no wonder women do worse at it. It's rigged against them to confirm to a male status quo so it's no surprise that it shows woman are unhappy when they aren't "submitting" to wishes of men. Really doesn't surprise me why you're ranting at this but put your guns away Eliot.

>>52423799
>Hate to burst your bubble but actually pretty fucking rare
>What is must always be the way; the post

Maybe - just maybe - society shouldn't operate in the manner you say and that there are concrete reasons for this behavior which are anti-social and can be changed?
>be social is a detriment to society
be social is a detriment to society
>be social is a detriment to society
be social is a detriment to society
>be social is a detriment to society
be social is a detriment to society
>be social is a detriment to society

You have to be trolling. "hurr i just ignored my nieghbor for 2 years then he shot himself leaving a note saying he was alone nothing I could've done"

People aren't anti-social animals holy shit who lied to you and how often did you fall for it?

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The best rpg stories from from japan now, gramps. Get with the times.

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>>52423953
Women do worse because they want to act like men and become fundamentally unhappy when they get treated equally.

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>>52423970
>from from

t. japanese shill who still needs to perfect his engrish

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>>52423983

>>52423953
Can't tell if this is autism or sarcasm so I'll treat it as both. Self report inventories are not part of so patriarchal conspiracy to keep a sistah down

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>>52415491

>>52423670
>Conan being the only respite from sword and sorcery bullshit.
Think about what you've just said.

>>52423076
It's one of the symptoms, I think: People desperatly trying to push their real-life ideologies/agendas/problems into work and expect that people will like it because of that, not because of the merit of the story

By not being afraid to get weird with it and draw on a greater breadth of content for inspiration.

On the surface the Elder Scrolls seems like a pretty typical fantasy series, it even was once, but now it's just a mask for a weird as fuck setting.

There is a shitload of weird and interesting stuff coming out of the OSR community, but they all use the same "game language" and are compatible with one another.

>>52423923
And it was biowares first attempt to break their own mold and do something new.
A shame it flopped so we have to play through mediocre shit like Inquisition

>>52424414
I remember when Bioware did shit like MDK 2.

>>52423330
Christianity lost, fundamentalist Anon. You're not going to bring it back. Everyone knows what you're selling, but few are buying.

I agree with you about family values and the current society encouraging harm to children (no fault divorce is stupid). disagree with you about waiting until marriage for sex (and the subsequent young marriages that requires) being in any way useful to quality of life.

And though you haven't picked up on it somehow, people are doing a combination of trolling you, and assuming you can't get laid and are using religion as an excuse to pretend it's a choice.

>>52423670
>Conan
>Respite from sword and sorcery
>Respite from
U fukkin wot m8?

Go sit in the corner and think about what you've done. Fucking look up sword and sorcery while you're at it.

>>52423980
Generally true.

Also doesn't help that society conflates infatuation and arousal with love, and you get a bunch of idiots flitting from relationship to relationship unable to determine why they can't find "love that lasts" or why the people who make them wet aren't interested in having a steady relationship with them/sleep around/ditch them.

>>52423970
Japan hasn't made a quality RPG in 15 years.

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>>52425279
This would be correct, if you were right. but you are wrong.

>>52413526
I just lost The Game.

>>52413987
4U

>>52425297
Examples?

>>52416277
This man is a hero.

>>52417450
Go away. In that away place, die in a fire. Take your twelve year old opinions and make a noose of them.

>>52413436
Both of those things have already been done. Just not by Toady.

>>52413646
>Spitting around the word cuck
>Bulgarian
I am not surprised, all those centuries under roaches must have left a stain on your brains.

>>52421854
Orientate is not a word. You are looking for orient.

>>52423955
You're either illiterate or just proving his point. Either way, shut the fuck up about things you don't understand.

>>52422127
Nope. Just over eloquence on the subject.

>>52420256
This reads almost exactly like the captions I sometimes see on tumblr for women to masturbate to.

>>52422209
Truth.

>>52425297
15 was generous.

The last good Japanese RPG I can think of from sqenix was ffix in 2000.

I mean, there have been some decent Zelda games, but they're more action/puzzle RPG, emphasis on the action and puzzle.

Pokemon is fun in its own dogfighting bug collecting grinding kind of way, but the RPG elements have always been terrible.

Monster hunter, maybe? I've been meaning to try that one.

>>52421017
Produced by Eidos Montreal, since they're a solid studio and production doesn't mean much.
Characters and story written by Opaque Industries.
Released on April 1st
Based on the Tabletop System Dungeons: the Dragoning.

>>52422319
Ah to find a brother in arms. It pleases me to know I am unalone.

>>52425582
Sqenix: not counting rereleases and remasters.

>>52425582
>>52425279
Dragon's Dogma.

>>52422871

To be fair, he's not wrong about the having sex and still feeling lonely part. I've been there and it sucks like ass, because you KNOW there's supposed to be something more, and it still feels... nice - but that's it.

Whereas if you have mindblowing, break-the-wall kind of sex, it just feels amazing, like the best feeling ever, that actually leaves you complete. That's really when you know you're "with" someone, at least to me personally.

Anyway, RPGs? Have a company that does only writing and development, and everything else is done by an actual vidya company.

>>52425582
>>52425619
>>52425297
Nier literally JUST came out you goldfish-brained retards.

>>52422900
Fewer. Fuck fewer people.

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Word of mouth will do more than any advertising budget. Fantasy can be saved... by you! You, my fine friends, must become ambassadors to all other gamers.
THREE STEPS:
1. FIND THE GOOD GAMES - THEY EXIST! On your old shelves, in the back closets, at convention discount bins, in indie small cost online digital downloads.
2. SPREAD THE WORD: Share your passion. Read your audience so you do not do as I have done and Sperg out. Use your withered CHARISMA stat that you thought you dumpstatted yourself.
3. BRING FOLKS TOGETHER: be it at the FLGS, at a friend's house, or just posting on /tg.

Paid for by the "I pulled this out of my ass" coalition for better gaming.

>>52425664

>Nier
>Good

pick one

>>52425628
I haven't played that one yet, but it has good reviews at least. Fair enough. I'll have to try it.

>>52425664
Somehow I never even heard of this one. Good gameplay *and* story?

Any other good recent-ish Japanese RPGs you'd suggest?

For the anon suggesting tabletop should take inspiration from Japanese Vidya RPGs, what about them do they have that tabletop lacks and could use?

>>52425628
It's a western-styled game and it came out five years ago.

>>52425746
>it came out five years ago.
The western market does a lot longer than that between games on the same level, though.

>western-styled
If by that you mean the aesthetic, then yes. Aside from some tiny details. But the story is more xianxia than anything else, despite the coat of Dragonheart paint.

>>52425746
>five years ago
Fuck, where has the time gone?

>>52413366
well first you should >>>/v/

>>52425797
Xianxia

Is that like wuxia?

I like wuxia. There should be more wuxia games.

>>52425797
>the story is more xianxia
What story? It just jumps between weird events with no lead-in.

>>52425797
>coat of Dragonheart paint
the catalyst for the plot beginning is a coat of paint?

>>52413366
Despite having 18 branches that confrontation in PS:T is sort of a let down. It's not bad, but the answers are less interesting then the questions that led you there.

Also, RPGs now? DA 2 is 7 years old. That disappointing pile of shit isn't really relevant anymore.

>>52415371
It's leaking in from other boards. Dunno if if's just because Euro-anons don't understand the genre, or because the big guns have actually been getting less and less grimdark, which means that OF COURSE they're doing something wrong (by the standards of those with shit taste.)

>>52416325
*citation needed

>>52421259
The movies are for the most part mediocre and without any imagination.

>>52426663
Just like the comics, then.

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>>52422159
Yeah, I couldn't see an anti authoritarian antihero that steals souls with a demon sword and worships demon gods go over well in Poland in the 70's and 80's. So major revisions would be needed and at that point the character just becomes something else.

>>52426711
>in the 70's and 80's
Or ever, really.

>>52426723
Yeah, they still do that thing when "satanic" is badwrongfun.

>>52425664
>le sexay robot meme game

try again

>>52426733
Yes, we know you don't actually play video games.

>>52426733
What are you, gay?

>>52421144
more romance less fighting

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>>52417390
>Keep telling yourself you didn't waste 60 lindens on a shit waifu simulator with a piss poor game attached.

That's rich coming from a weeaboo.

>>52421017
>Baldurs gate 3 produced by Obsidian
>Characters and Story written by Yoko Taro
>Released on PC, Mac and sosnoles, with cross platform multiplayer
>Based on the tabletop system D&D 5e

>>52427388
>BG3
>consoles
Please no, either the interface will be a nightmare on consoles or or it'll be massively cut down to make it work properly.

>>52413366
>Picking an almost universally liked game with a regular screen shot of its gameplay
>contrasting with a parody picture of a panned sequel that few people really enjoyed and no one gives a shit about only 5 or 6 years later
>comic sans

(You)

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>>52423132
>I don't get to live my life however i choose, if i had, i would've been a thug dealing drugs and shooting people.

oh god this is adorable

>>52427400
sosnolefags can only play fighters

>>52426315
>Less and less grimdark.

Hahahahaha

>>52426711
Stop pushing the Geralt is a rip of of Elric meme. The two characters only have a few barely superficial similarities.

>>52413436

Rimworld exists

>>52426942
>muh waifu

kys

>>52426940
go on, explain why flavour of the month meme game is actually good

it's fucking trash for braindead weebs like all slant vidya

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>>52427410
What's parody about the pic? Only the eyes are shooped, the options are just standard "modern game design".

>>52427867
>obviously modded FO4
>trustworthy
JK, I know it's just the Full Dialogue Interface mod.

>>52413436
>removing the casual filter
Disgusting.

>>52422378
>getting tatoos are for degenerates
Funniest thing I've read in a while.

>>52423042
>the only thing you are doing is proving your own egomania by passing sweeping judgment on others.
>Anon, you can live your life however you choose, but don't for a second think you are somehow "better" because you made a personal choice that affects no one save yourself.
This.

>>52427850
>Literally, the conjuction of spheres is a plot element in the Witcher.

Sapkowski did steal hand over fist from Hawkmoon and Elric.

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>>52420255
>The fourth point is my personal gripe. Fantasy races, and in some instances humans as well, always "need" to have that one racial superpower that allows those elves to levitate and those orcs to summon spines to shoot at enemies and such halflings to propel their feces with a good 40 kmh. While I see this to have good reason in gameplay, I find it an abhorrent concept in fluff, and it galls me even more when fluff is built so strongly around those ingame superpowers that it basically destroys any sense of culture and society. A race that has explicit superpowers to be great stealth archers would never ever develop or integrate into a society that has no more need of such a particular set of abilities, but for some reason are well adjusted and accepted members of the non stealth-archer society.

Wut mate.

Very few (tabletop or video gaem) RPG I can think of has superpowered races. This is a shame. WoW, Eberron, Pathfinder, Dragon Age, what not: they all ascribe by the thought of having humanoid races with small bonuses over classical humans. It's boring.

The more supernatural of those are the Night Elves, and they are just taller, longer lived, and more athletic than humans. They can't shoot lasers off their eyes or anything like that. That would be great if that was the case, but it is almost never the case.

Only Exalted has superpowered races by default, and it's a fucking great thing. What kind of diseased mind do you have to take an incredibly rare trope for the norm?

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>>52427155

>Sucks polish cock and thinks I'm a weaboo

wew get a load of this retard lol

>>52428951
>Posts anime
>"OH YEAH IM TOTALLY NOT A WEEB GUYS"
Fuck why do I even bother replying to these obvious bait posts.

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>>52428945
>>52420255
Ideally, each races should have unique abilities, to make them feel really unique from humans. Flying, being able to eat rocks and bath in magma, swimming and magic... Just look at what Zelda does with its races. That's one of the rare vidya that does it correctly.

>>52416277
Dorf Fort's a fucking stellar game and adding a seperate turotial mode isn't going to hurt it, explaining complex mechanics doesn't make the game any less complex at all.

>>52423489
This is true, but no AAA title is going to be text based. It's impossible. A developer would have to accept millions in loses just to please a demographic that's too small to be relevant.

>>52423472
Then play Skyrim, it's a better game anyway.

>>52421908
>Maybe there's a place in the Beyond where all the women are strong and brilliant and all the men are weak and subservient.
Are... are they implying it's the other way around everywhere else?

Talk about counterproductive.

>>52427855
bait

>>52423132
>if i had, i would've been a thug dealing drugs and shooting people.
the best thread on /tg/ right now

>>52417390
>Keep telling yourself you didn't waste 60 lindens on a shit waifu simulator with a piss poor game attached.
>chinese cartoon character

>>52429282
Not only is she a weebshit character....
She's pretty much a literal semen demon that keeps getting cucked by other semen demons who keep cucking each other.

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>/tg/ is now as austitic and shitty as /v/

I thought we were better. But this whole time...

>>52417390
At least it's not Mass Effect Andromeda

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>>52429336
/tg/ has always had autists.
But it is still not /v/.

>>52428945
First of all: I tried to explain what "Capeshit" means to me, not that all fantasy is subject to it. Secondly, I assume that both of us have a different tolerance level, because it's exactly those games you listed (excepting Dragon Age of which I have little knowledge), plus Elder Scrolls that imply that each individual of a common race, regardless of social background and geographical upbringing is capable to do [thing x], which is apparently such a powerful ability that it can only be explained through an influx of magic that has taken an existing natural occurence (adjusting sight to night vision, have an adrenaline rush) and make it a readily available concsiously activated motion. It may not be lasers out the eyes but the basic workings are the same. And then, some races have what I can describe only as a superpower: Goliaths can turn their bodies to have stonehides to reduce damage. How is that any different from Colossus from the X-Men?

If you have to have such abilities I see no reason why each individual should automatically be equally efficient in it. If it's a naturally occurring ability like hedgehogs forming a ball, then it is very much like flexing a muscle. If you don't train a muscle it will gradually weaken. An orc who rarely if ever does battle should pay greatly to fall into a berserker rage. A wood elf who for some reason came to the city and never ventures into the wilds should not know how to tame animals. If it's not a naturally occurring ability then it is induced through some outward force which MAKES IT A SUPERPOWER.

>>52426088
Sounds like xianxia to me.

>>52413436
except the RPG mode of Dwarf Fortress is not even a fucking game yet, even though it is very amazing and impressive to play for a little while

Fortress mode will be where it's at for some years still

>>52427850
Everyone knows that polacs have no ideas of their own.

>>52417390
well I'm 250 hours in and haven't even beaten the main quest nor even know what the main quest is

so I'll let you know when I feel i've wasted my money

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>>52423830
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha you are a fucking loser holy jesus shit

>>52429336
Nope.

>>52422229
>the use of she as a GNP throughout the entire book

It's 60/40 usage of he vs she over the corebook. So I don't know where you're pulling that notion out of.

>>52416325
>a man with ties to pizzagate who ate a human penis
source?

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>>52429161
>it's a better game anyway.
I wonder who might be behind this post

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>>52413366
Buy Pillars of Eternity. Back PoE2. Obsidian is still around, still making Infinity Engine games in the vein of Baldur's Gate, you know. Give them more money so the industry makes more games like that.

>>52413558
Is Geralt slowly turning into Mads Mikkelsen?

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>>52417390
Try Harder

>>52438088
Produced by Obsidian
Writing by R. A. Salvatore
Released on PC and Mac
Based on D&D 4e

Don't judge me

>>52419952
>The second point is best observed in Marvel/DC trying to bring all superheroes together despite none of them actually having any personal connection at all to fight equally distinct supervillains. What once started as Batman messing up the Joker's organised crime suddenly becomes the latter rallying with Lex Luthor to steal god's cockring to summon satan to cause EVIL while the Justice League must join with their parallel dimensional counterparts to avert the apocalypse. This is not a natural evolution of the story but authors trying to maintain suspense by unnecessarily upping the powerlevel.
My thoughts about Marvel/DC exactly
kek

>>52428933
>There are a handful of ripped plot elements.

Maybe. But the protagonist and main story arc are very different.

>>52437767
Not pulling it from that book. Referring g to industry practices elsewhere. Someone posted a game where they actually had a blurb at the beginning about how they were proud to use she as their gnp throughout the whole book.

Anybody remember what game that was?

>>52417390
You're on the wrong board, /v/fag.

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>>52438311
>Produced by Obsidian
Okay.

>Writing by R. A. Salvatore
Well, it's not C.S. Goto.

>Based on D&D 4e
I liked FF Tactics. Also liked PoE.

>Released on PC and Mac
THERE BETTER BE A LINUX VERSION MOTHERFUCKER.

>>52423185
sleep snug, smug.

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Anyone else here still playing NWN?

>>52422319
>ywn mistake the /l/ as the invasion board
Best mistake

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>>52413366
Except that's wrong. The one on the right is an Action game, WITH role-playing elements.

Also,
>>/vg/

>>52417492
Razorfist get out REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>52413436

Now that you mention it, Dwarf Fortress Adv. mode does strongly resemble the older RPGs in the way talking works.

>>52422282
It's not weak and subservient to do random pointless things because you think they're funny.

>>52413366
Torment tides of numinara is a new game that is in the style of the old

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>Play RPG
>Do quest
>some weird abortion storyline comes up between all the god slaying and cult thwarting
>Not understand why this is important or relevant

Seems anytime a game wants me to do some retarded moral quest that I just tune it out.

Am I evil /tg/ ?

>>52441630
>Am I evil /tg/ ?
Well, let's see:
>Not understand why some weird abortion storyline comes up or is important or relevant
This is not evil.

>Seems anytime a game wants me to do some retarded moral quest that I just tune it out.
This is kinda evil.

>>52442272
Just seems kind of retarded to be crying about someones weird political issue they shoved in the game when Korrax the Serpent Rider or Vognordaland the Unmaker starts shitting in your house

>>52442608
>Yes, yes, there's an unspeakably evil lich raising an undead army in order to destroy our kingdom on his path to conquering the world, but help us legalize same-sex marriage!

>>52442765
Hark! Young Knight, you are the last hope and light that stands between us and Vognordaland the Unmaker.
Please tell us your opinions on allowing transgender children to use the bathroom of their choosing.

Do you think Bikini Mail is sexist?

>>52438088
But PoE sucked.

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>>52414695
good taste anon

>>52441231
But Razorsis is right about this one.

>>52422558
>I drink a lot
And you have the nerve to call other people degenerates. Or bitch about potheads, when booze is worse than it in every way.

FUCK ME YOU GUYS ARE PUSSIES... ALL OF YOU

I JUST FUCK ALL DAY,
ALL WOMEN ARE SLUTS CONSTANTLY,
I DRINK GALLONS OF BEER MODERATELY,
SMOKE WEED EVERYDAY THAT STARTS WITH S,
GET MY DICE OUT AND ROLL ON THE BITCHES ERRYDAY BITCH.

NIGGA YOU DONT EVEN KNOW,
I GOT EVERY STD,
DONE EVEN GIVE A FUCK,
THE OTHER DAY I SAW THIS DAEMONETTE (NOT THOSE LESBIAN NEW ONES),
AND I FUCKED THAT BITCH,
ROLLED A 21 NAAAAH MEAN,
STUCK ALL 2.7 INCHES OF HER IN MY ASS,
COZ IM A REAL NIGGA YOU KNOW WHAT,
FUCKED SO MANY BITCHES.

I FUCKED SO MANY BITCHES I SAVED FANTASY A GENRE,
YO MUMMA DREAMS OF ME ALL DAY BITCH,
I AM A FANTASY MOTHERFUCKERS,

MOTHERFUCKER IM A MOTHERFUCKING APSTRAPHE ALL DAY NIGGA SHEEEEETTTT,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

YEAH THAS RITE MUTHERFUCKERS GET IT RIGHT...

I FUCK BITCHES ALL DAY BITCH NAD THEN I COME SEE MAH REAL NIGGAS ON /TG/ BITCH

BUNCH SLUTS OUT THERE HOMIES

>>52446212
Wow man....
I really think you need to look at your self destructive behaviour, I would'nt just stick one of those daemonettes up my ass willy nilly. I like to spend at least 4 months, get to know her a bit see if there are and sharp mould lines that i might have to remove. I've seen other hobbyists like you man, I've been around the results, the addiction to drugs and alcohol, the loss of sense of self the severe rectal tearing from unlubricated minis...

I get that you come from a different place but one day i think you will realise how unimportant these facile connections are. They just don't enrich you as human being like a relationship.

>>52446212
I mean have you even sat down and had a talk with the new daemonettes they are probably really interesting models with a lot to say.

>>52446284
AHHH SHIT LISTEN TO THIS BITCH ALL TALKING ABOUT LOVIN ON BITCHES.

I KNOW MY /tg/ HOMIES KNOW THAT AINT HOW A REAL ROLEPLAAYYYAAAA DO SON

>>52421688
> DnD 5e
>>52427388
> D&D 5e

Come on. 5th DnD will not suddenly become capable of handling Epic.

>>52427855
Rimworld is no one near as good a simulator as DF it's probably a better game though considering the UI and learning curve in DF are utter shit

>>52440490
I do - NWN is literally the last good game Bioware released - but I've never got into the multiplayer aspects, just custom modules.
Any multiplayer servers you can recommend to me?

>>52447108
I can not comprehend how Bioware managed to ruin the Aurora engine when going from NWN to 2.

FFUUCKK

>>52447209
>I can not comprehend how
Well, first of all, "muh cinematic dialogues" with anamorphic black bars that were absolute shit and weren't fixed until Storm of Zehir.
Secondly, absolutely retarded optimization done by OBSIDIAN OF ALL PEOPLE. YOU DON'T GIVE OBSIDIAN TECHNICAL TASKS.
Interface got a lot less responsive, while scripiting remained literally the same, except a lot of already established tools stopped working.
NWN2 is literally an example of "how do we make a game worse that its predecessor in all aspects". Hell, even textures were blurry as fuck when compared to NWN1, even though the game got rid of jaggy/blocky models of NWN1.

>>52429094
It has a separate tutorial mode. It's called googling it. There's a shit ton of DF tutorials, including it in the game would be pointless, especially since the framework is not set up to make a tutorial mode possible.

>>52413366
What are some good fantasy games? I want to hear /tg/'s opinion.