/WFG/ Warhammer Fantasy General

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1st for the best race!

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>>52402947

Strange, that doesn't look like an Imperial.

>>52402787
The Warhammer Fantasy Armory says that Gromril and Ithilmar armor is always best quality. Do the profiles given in the same book account for that?

Reminder that Lizardmen, Skaven, Ogres and Greenskins are shitty NPC races and the setting would be much better if they were removed
>muh no personality scalefags
>muh reddit rats
>muh mongolian neckbeards
>muh lol random gobbos
Anyone who plays anything other than Empire of chaos warriors should be hanged, but at least Elves and dwarfs aren't fucking npcs who don't even matter to the setting

>>52403579
>Skaven
>NPC

Skaven have the most personality.

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Well lads, I've compiled a list of all the Warhammer Fantasy novels we are missing and it's about 144 (including short stories and articles).

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>http://kickassunblock.net/user/BranStark/uploads/ >is STILL down

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>>52403966
Oh nice, good job Anon.

>>52404229

The list is 10,000 words so to stop it being 5 posts I'm thinking of a way to post it.

>>52404251
Pastebin should work.

>>52404285

https://pastebin.com/ZG1TJHsM

Any good?

>>52404337
Yeah, that's pretty great Anon, thanks for taking the time to do it.

>>52404369

I'll add it to the OP next thread if I make it.

From that list I have Runefang which I will try and get scanned this week.

>>52404409
I have the city of death series from that list
the Chronicles of malus darkblade
one of the Gilaed books
the Brunner the bounty hunter collection
the vampire genevieve
empire in chaos
the von carstein books
war of vengance which I have a digital copy of i should be able to share
thats all i can tell from a quick look through i'll go through it in depth in a few moments im trying to wrap something up
I'll try to get them scanned this week too
if http://kickassunblock.net/user/BranStark/uploads/
doesnt come back up is there a back up we could use?

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>>52404477
https://www.sendspace.com/filegroup/Fx5qWQTdFu%2BBCuDYwdN8vMS9RaZUOqLwRNe124xGaQehKScwFBwz5Z1OxUMS3WGC

I'll try to get some more uploaded tonight if someone wants to deposit them where ever either kickassunblock when it comes back up or somewhere new

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>>52404477
>>52404594

Well done anon.

We'll see if http://kickassunblock.net/user/BranStark/uploads/ comes back tomorrow.

If not we may have to set up a new deposit.

That list was made from all my saved files so I can replace them if its given up the ghost.

>>52404704
yeah I might as well wait and see if it comes back up, and if thats the case i'll upload what i have directly there, no sense in uploading to one place just to upload it to another afterwards

We need more cute lizard art.

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>>52404763

>>52403861
>Mary sue rats with ww1 technology in a low fantasy setting
>not npc
Nice try, but it's a setting about humans defending their homes. The reddit rats are just another enemy to make the humans look good

I'm shocked people aren't talking more about the Warhammer Diablo 2 clone coming out.

>>52406843
I don't want to play Diablo Warhammer.
Come back to me when they make a wfrp RPG.

>>52406843
I had no idea that such a thing was happening. Is there a trailer or something?

>>52403579
Nice bait AoS cuck.

>>52403579
>remove lizardmen
>humans don't exist
wew

>>52403966
oh shit

how many do we have and where are they located?

>>52406833
love this meme

>>52406843
Well, we know practically nothing except that it's a hack and slash in the old world

I hope it's a gotrek and felix game

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never read a warham book before but i got to say im loving the setting from wfrp.
Could i get a couple suggestions from an empire perspective? Hopefully something from a soldiers pov, preferably with lots of gunpowder.

>>52407823
Hey anon, I really reccomend you read Death & Dishonour, it's a collection of shorts in novel form that go through various places,human focused.
Really got me into the feeling of warhammer

then I guess you could go for blood on the reik

>>52407823
Book I always recommend is Tales of the Old World. Lots of short stories - not all Empire-focused, but enough to make you happy.

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>>52402787
>>52403966
Hey I noticed from the pastebin we are missing the regiments of renown skirmish mode for 8th ed(100p battles, think Killteam but fantasy)

I have no idea how to add it to the pastebin/mega but I'll put it in this post for some wizard to claim it. May it be of use

>>52407565
What other characters would be playable in a G&F game? How about bosses?

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>>52408086
I just want to fight as Malus Darkblade. He's a ruthless, tough bastard and I want to hate and hack my way through every army in the world.

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Yesterday was basing day for my old minis again.

>>52408184
are those gobbos for KoW or what the fucks going on

>>52408307
Yes it's for KoW. I'm keeping the Empire on individual bases.

>>52408184
KNIGHTS

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>>52408563
FORGOT PICTURE

>>52406833

>skaven
>mary sue

That is not how you spell High Elves

>>52406833
>>52409014
>Skaven
>High Elves
>Mary Sue

That is not how you spell Archaon, Be'lakor or Chaos Gods.

Are emperor dragons & star dragons the same thing?

I got the impression that they were but then I read some lore that said even the dragontamers of caledor couldn't tame emperor dragons, which makes me think they're even older and more powerful than star dragons.

If that's the case, why aren't there any high elf emperor dragons?

>>52407939
Seconding Tales of the Old World.
Short stories are the best stories. You get all the good ideas and none of the padding needed for a novel.

>>52409611
I think you more-or-less answered your second question there.

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>>52407823
You could read the Blackhearts series - soldiers condemned to death for various crimes, recruited to do black-ops stuff by an Imperial nobleman. First one is really good.

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I made a few more changes to this homebrew and fixed some oversites. Any constructive criticism? It's for 2nd edition.

>>52412058
Is there a difference between crossbows and bows on the tabletop?

>>52412263
Yes. Crossbows have 6" more range have +1 strength and cannot be used on the same turn the units moves.

>>52407317
Nope, just the announcement it is being made AKA contracts are complete.

>>52408086
Ulrika, Snorri, that wizard, the mad engineer. Teclis?

>>52408184
THIN

>>52409611
>emperor dragons
You mean dragon from Altdorf zoo?

>>52412956
That's the Imperial Dragon.
I can understand the confusion.

>>52413447
I think he's just a retard

>>52408184
>>52412834

YOUR

>>52402787
what's the name of that WHFB skirmish game from games workshop, that isn't mordheim?

you can choose core, special or rare, and there's a 200pt maximum

>>52407524

Well we did have a large torrent here: http://kickassunblock.net/user/BranStark/uploads/ but it appears to have died.

In the OP though there's a pastebin with links to Mega's that has about 100 novels.

>>52407974

Thanks anon, everything is appreciated.

We're working on something, it appears some of the Mega's/torrents have gone down. We'll try and get something sorted soon, I've saved a copy anyway.

>>52406843

Because it probably won't be a D2 clone. All we know is that it's a hack and slash game and judging by the developers previous game it will probably be a 2D top down fighting which doesn't get me that excited.

>>52409611

Franz's dragon is probably a Carmine Dragon.

>>52413789

You either mean Warhammer Skirmish or Regiments of Renown.

>>52403579
here's your (You)

>>52413944
Thanks amigo

>>52413970

>>52414003

Anon here has already posted RoR here.

>>52407974

Let's pretend people still play this ded game general?

>>52414100

Seems to be working okay for the Age of Sigmar General.

>>52414100
dead company, feels badman

>>52414100
I'd love to play...if there were people around, and I didn't keep putting off miniature work because there's always one thing I can't do/don't have on hand.

>>52414583

If you're looking to convert people try Regiments of Renown.

One box of models and they have get the feek of Fantasy. Alternatively, Spire of Dawn comes with square bases.

>>52414583
I just play KoW. It's big and you got the WHFB feel.

>>52414100
Considering how many are flocking from 40 to 30k now it seems like Forge World should do a times of legend miniatures range with 8th or new rules and a few GW plastic kits.

There's already a bl range, who wouldn't want to play Sigmar, Nagash, Morkar with primitive units?

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>new warhammer fantasy game announced
>tfw its set during the end times
>tfw empire and dwarfs are the only playable races
>tfw No lizardmen or tomb kings at all

>>52415312
Sauce?

>>52414100
I'm here for wfrp and wfrp related anecdotes

All that exists of this setting is that total war game, so if you could kindly move your threads to /vg/ it would be appreciated.
Thanks and god bless

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>>52416164
Try that in TES General and see what happens.

Unrelated note, what's up with pic related? I can't think of any way that is worthy of promotion. Unless it coincides with another mass squatting or the next MTO finally coming.

>>52413556
PAINT

>>52416212
>Unrelated note, what's up with pic related?

They're splitting their novels from their game books and the like.

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>>52416164

All that exists of Age of Sigmar is a few 10 year olds bashing toys together, so if you could kindly move AoS General to /toy/ it would be appreciated.

Thanks, and may Sigmar bless my ravaged body.

>>52416212

Makes sense I suppose, having rules on BL was a mistake because they always get lost in the background.

Looks like http://kickassunblock.net/user/BranStark/uploads/ is well and truly brown bread lads.

I'll set up a new Mega with all the novels on and that anon with the new ones can either send them to me or upload them there.

>>52416164
try suicide faggot

>>52417120
>mega
is there a better alternative? i hate having to upgrade my mega account just so i can download over the data limit

>>52417299

Well it was just because they give you 50Gb for free, if there is a free alternative that is better I'm happy to change it.

>>52417334
could just compile it all into a torrent
I'm the guy with the other novels, i'll upload them later tonight around, 10:40PM EST
I cant do it right at the moment

>>52417391

I guess I could do. Can you add new files to a torrent?

>>52417517
I was thinking we could compile them before hand but, you're right I hadn't thought about adding new ones, I have no issue seeding constantly, but I think it would be in everyone's best interest to have one central torrent with all the books and such on it.
If we can't add new files to it we may have to just take the torrent down and reseed with the newer files.
That's less than ideal so we may just need to look for an alternative if we can't just add the new files.

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>>52417605

I've had a look about but Mega seems to be the best free one, all the books I currently have in .mobi are about 2GB so we should easily be able to get them all on.

I've set it up but all the novels need reorganising into the categories found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Warhammer_Fantasy_novels, so it'll probably be tomorrow before I get everything uploaded. It's about 11pm in the UK now.

If you want to turn all of your novels into a torrent and send them to me whenever you get time I'll add them.

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I know a lot of people are sick of Total War stuff, but I want to know: do the Tempelhofs have a precedence in the lore? Were they just made up for the game?

>>52418693
at least it's on the map
http://whfb-de.lexicanum.com/wiki/Tempelhof

Countess Emanuelle was defeated in a siege there. It's mentioned in the Dwarf timeline apparently.

>>52416943
Blessings of Shallya, another game licensed to the IP!

>>52418693
practically everything in tww can be traced back to the fluff

they did a good job for that

>>52418693
They're unimportant Von Carsteins.

It was an excuse to have more than one Vampire faction while all the important characters were under Mannfred.

Hey /whfg/, I want to run a game inspired by (blatantly ripping off) mordheim. I'm just can't decide exactly what tech level I want to use. Would you guys most enjoy something that's essentially just warhammer tech level, WW1 tech, or 1990's tech? Which would you run?

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>>52419964
I think the tech level would dramatically change what you find in the game...personally, I'd enjoy WW1 the best just because that's a period of history I'm most interested in, even if it has gotten a lot of exposure lately.

>>52419964
Well I'm not one of your players so my opinion doesn't matter.

Stone age maybe?

>>52418073
Do you have a discord or something I could use to send them?

>>52420382
To clarify I mean the torrent, not the novels themselves

>>52414100
idk about you but i play almost every week and so do others around here

>>52419964

That's 3 separate gams anon.

>>52420382
>>52420425

I'll set up an e-mail.

>>52421402
alright

>>52421449

[email protected]

>>52421511
alright give me a few minutes and i'll start emailing you novels

>>52419964
90's tech is just S.T.A.L.K.E.R

>>52421540
>>52421511
Sent

>>52421832

Sorry anon something went wrong, I was using a disposable website and it's refreshed.

Not to be a pain in the arse but could you resend them to

[email protected]

thanks.

Also with this I can use it in the future when we add to it.

>>52421962
alright, expect 5 emails
had to space them out do to data limits

>>52421581
Anon, don't excite me like that.

Imagine a WFB version of Stalker - it would pretty much be Mordheim, but have more mutants and less rats.

>>52421962
did you get those ?

>>52422500

Yep.

Thanks anon, unzipping them and sorting them now.

I'll upload them to the Mega and take them off the list tomorrow.

Greatly appreciated.

>>52422543
I have a few of those other books on the list in physical form
i'll see about getting them scanned, if im able
also i apologize for not sorting them myself i was in a bit of a rush so im sure there's a good number of books in there that were not needed

>>52422569

No problem anon, happy to add them.

I have a handful of physical copies I'll be scanning at the weekend probably.

If they turn out legible I'll continue to buy and add them.

>>52422743
Sounds good, thanks!

It's funny how ignorant the stupid trolls that occasionally go on this thread to make bait posts are.

Just because it's no longer officially supported by GW doesn't make it dead, after all there are people that still play 7th-8th editions, people that play the previous editions or "Oldhammer", and people that play in the setting but in different systems, like proxying their armies for use in 9th Age, KoW and One Page Rules, or make use of content like Warhammer Armies Project and its own custom 9th edition. Not to mention WHFRP and the specialist games like Mordheim, Blood Bowl (although that is its own universe) and etc.

It's hilarious and sad at the same time, really, that those people would continue to bait (and fail at it) WHFB players. Because by their logic, they should also go bait 40k players that play like, say, Rogue Trader (40k 1st edition, not the FFG game) or one of the other editions before, say, 5th-7th.

>inb4 "b-but 40k is not a dead setting"
True, but the Rogue Trader era and Squats and Zoats aren't really official or supported anymore by GW now, are they? And even if Oldcrons technically still sort of exist in 5th and beyond, the actual Oldcrons themselves and C'tan that aren't Pokemon aren't really there.

>>52423181

The worst thing is, how the fuck did these people manage before GW?

Back in the days of historicals, everyone played different scales, different rules etc. etc.

If you needed a certain spear in 28mm and nobody sold it, you made it yourself.

Same thing in the early days of Fantasy and Sci-fi. If anything, having one company supply the rules, models and setting is a conflict of interest.

I can see Warlord going down the same path, they're a great company now but if they ever get sold they'll turn into the GW of historicals.

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I'm calling it now lads, Stormcast, Fireslayers, Steam Dwarfs and all the new factions split into AoS,

GW brings the old factions back as Fantasy.

They run both games simultaneously.

>>52417299
most other sites are much slower and have a 30 minute lockout after you download one file

>>52424083
I was wondering, would it really be that expensive for Games Workshop to go back to selling WHFB models?
I understand that you wouldn't want them taking up space in store if they're not flying off the shelves, but surely it's not that expensive just to have the models available online? Companies like Reaper manage with a fairly extensive online range where I'm sure almost half of the shit doesn't get touched. You also get the recasters that have almost the entire Warhammer Fantasy, 40k and Forge World lines available, and they're literally made up of just one chinese bloke in his garage.

>>52425077
Aren't a lot of models still technically being sold? They have weak explanations for Empire units, and they haven't changed the Elves all that much. Only thing they've definitely squatted are Tomb Kings and Bretonnians, and if for some reason you really wanted to play AoS as them, it wouldn't be hard to convert them.

Though I wonder what you would do with knights that are on round bases anyway. Harder to get a cavalry charge going.

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>>52412645
>playing as Teclis

for when you want to push one button and win the campaign

>>52425077

Well all GW care about is selling models, they want the rules to be as hassle free as possible to facilitate this. If releasing 8th edition PDF's or a 9th edition like KoW with everything in one book helps them to push sales by even 10% I think they would do it.

The slowdown in AoS has convinced me that we'll be seeing Fantasy again sooner rather than later.

>>52423181
>Just because it's no longer officially supported by GW doesn't make it dead,
Been saying this since day 1, and yet 2 years later it's the same shit. But the fantasy grongards are the ones who keep crying about how their setting is dead and gone and how GW commandos showed up at their house, burned their rule books and shoved sigmarines up their asses until they played AoS or gave up wargaming altogether. the trolls just come because they're such easy targets.

Why do fantasy players give any amount of fucks what AoS players think, and vice versa? Why are people still such idiots that they respond to obvious bait? The same 2 year old bait is still getting the same shitty replies, literally nothing has changed

>>52425893
We don't.
But the trolls and shitposting haven't stopped.

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>>52416267
>>52412834
>>52413556
Those minis are between 15 and 10 yo and already varnished. It can't be thinned anymore.

>>52425893
The world can't have two fantastic GW settings so their fanbases fight for the supremacy.

>>52426747
Well luckily WHFB already takes up that spot. AoS is hardly even a contender.

>>52426747
LotR and WHFB ?

>>52426747
AoS would be more fantastic if it was a bit more fleshed out - for all the flak it gets, it could be legitimately cool to have a Vallhalla-esque setting with so much fluidity, as long as there was still something solid behind it. Right now it's just a powermetal cover.

>>52426778
Nobody ever played LotR.

>>52426927
plenty of people did when the game was still new

fucking great set of rules actually

>>52426927
What the shit

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Anyone have specific house rules on blackpowder weapons in wfrpnd ed? i was thinking about
1. pistols do not suffer a close range penalty.
2. pistols and handguns have armor piercing.(not arqubuses tho)
3.loading powder and bullet into paper charges reduces reloading by a half action
Is this too op? what are your thoughts?

>>52427381
*2nd edition

>>52426806

The problem is the shit tier writing. They rushed the whole End Times thing and just threw things out the window like it was moving day. It like an setting a la Idiocracy. Filled with lame exposition about how GREAT and EPIC everything is.

"THEN THE SKULLGUYS CAME AND THEY WERE THE MOST EVIL AND BAD ASS BECAUSE THEY HAD TEN MORE SKULLS THAN EVERYONE ELSE. THEY LIVED IN CASTLE SKULL WHICH WAS MADE OF SKULL."

Then there is the its is the far future and some how standard characters who have models are still alive (which makes no sense), but some are not and the ones that don't have models definitely are not. Anything that isn't copy writable gets slight name change. (because that will do anything to stop the problem)

I will give you there are some cool concepts of it. The concept is pretty cool. It is not a power metal cover, it is the rear box art from Warcraft 3. Art direction directly lifted from the game and warmachine.

>>52427666
this, the spirit of Warhammer was always captured in it's artwork, and people complain about it "being too 40k" when that isn't even the case, it doesn't look "Warhammer" like 40k art used to look "Warhammer" now it looks cartoony and often just plain bad.

The same thing is happening with 40k right now, the whole setting is being bent over backwards to make way for GWs new Developments.

>>52427067
This.

If aos had the same ruleset I would play it.

>>52412284
It's kind of a weird situation with bows and crossbows, bows should have a higher rate of fire than crossbows and actually be harder to fire on the move as you have to be in a position to draw an arrow, nock and fire. With a Crossbow you just have to stop and bring it up to your shoulder to fire.

On the other hand a longbow should have a greater range as you can arc the arrow better, realistically, a bowman should be better but more expensive but for whatever reason everyone does the opposite.

>>52418860
Still stupid to make Isabella some super powerful Vampire caster. She's a fucking level 1 for fuck sake. My Battle Wizard can out zap her.

>>52424083
I don't hate steam dorfs actually.

They're good Engineer's Guild troops. EG was a 6e army as I recall.

Fyreslayers just have stupid hats, a stupid origin, a stupid centerpiece, and mirroring.

I dislike almost everything about Stormcast, but if given non-terrible lore and weren't the center focus of virtually everything I'd shrug at them like I do the WFB armies I don't care for.

I'm not against buying new stuff, there just hasn't been anything I've liked or found useful. Maybe if they came out with a new Fiend kit, or an "Aelf" I could use as Finubar I'd buy something though.

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>>52425893
Remember the split between people playing D&D 3.5e and the new 4e?

They made passive aggressive remarks, but didn't give a shit otherwise. The problem is shitposters trying to pic related.

>>52429831
I'd argue the reverse. She was turned directly by Vlad, and early, as well as being taught directly by him without fear of her growing more powerful than him. She should be one of the most powerful after him.

The Hero status was back when only she and Vlad actually had their own rules. Once Manny and Kon got added as Lords she should have gotten a promotion.

>>52425187
Aren't round bases not required? I imagine that you could even have funky bases that fit together into a pyramid for a wedge formation.

>>52425893

It's a laugh, ain't it?

>>52409084

Was talking about the tabletop insane level of pandering, also known as "grand banner of game breaking"

>>52430478
Yeah, bases in AoS don't matter. Neither does Charging really.

Its all about melee/ranged crunch, psychology, and special rules. Everything else is minor or gone.

How mercenary can greenskins get?
Will they obey anyone big they can't backstab, like a clever Strigoi?
Are they capable of longterm servitude as long as there is war and loot?

If a Strigoi managed to get a WAAAGH following him and went into the north where Warriors are, could he lead an eternal war against Chaos?

>>52431413

Orcs can be bought by anyone, in older editions they fight for humans, Vampies anyone who has something they want.

>>52431413
>>52431534

Also, Warmonger Miniatures, which is the fantasy wing of Ansell's Wargames Foundry sells some excellent Landsknecht Orcs.

You could use one as the tribes emissary.

>>52431413
Rugluds armored orcs

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Anyone have an idea of where to pick up some Tomb King shields? I need a lot of them. Like, 200.

I have ideas and they must see the light of day.

>>52431750

Probably no way to reliably get 200 GW Tomb King shields, Reaper Miniatures sell a range of Egyptian shields though.

>>52431783
Okie doke, I'll take a look. Thanks.

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>>52431750
You could try casting yourself, if you just need the shields themselves?

>>52427381
alright gonna bump this question once before work, would like to here some thoughts. sorry for shitting up the thread tho. this will be the last time i call attention to my previous post.

>>52431817

Yeah or do this, you could probably get the full set off eBay and cast them.

Plenty of guides on how to make your own moulds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TfTdqqjbW0

Dinosaur sounds.

>>52431750
In addition to Reaper you could also check out Crocodile Games' Wargods of Aegyptus.
They have a bits service, like GW used to have way back when and they have several shields in their catalog.

>>52431928
Use Blue Stuff.

>>52432197
aka oyumaru.
probably cheaper if you buy the non re-branded version if you can find anywhere.

>>52431999
45 hours to go

>>52422944

I've been looking through those scans anon and does anyone know who the 'undead' scanner is?

He seems to have scanned quite a few of these novels?

>>52432737
No clue, I got all those novels around 2 or so years ago

Am I the only one who feels genuinely sad about how they raped their own bg only to make money?
I've been into Warhammer as a kid, for years, with my little brothers. When they killed that world and that characters they killed some of my oldest friends.

>>52433137
>Am I the only one who feels genuinely sad about how they raped their own bg only to make money?
No, but the old stuff is still there. And it won't go away either.
Personally started to I lose interest in 40k a while ago and when I started to focus more on WHFB the brought AoS inot existence. By now I have moved on to greener pastures.
I still have my WHFB models and my armybooks though and every once in a while, when nostalgia catches up with you it's nice to thumb through them.

In the end I feel like it's actually quite liberating to let that stuff go.
I just have to bring myself to sell all the models for the armies I always wanted to build, but never got around to.
Make space for new stuff and ideas, you know.

>>52432074
Hey, I like those shields quite a bit, think I might pick up a few to see how they'll work. Thanks!

>>52431413
Smaller Orc Bands aren't strangers to mercenary work, also Banditism and Piracy, Orcs left to their own devices come up with all kinds of stuff to do with their free time. Especially Black Orcs.

However, once they get a Waagh going, they don't really fraternize with non-orcs until the Waagh calms down or Ends spectacularily.

Goblins are much less likely to do mercenary work due to their cowardly and vile nature. But Orcs will do it for the right prize, they are just as likely to just rob and eat you though, always be wary around Greenskins.

Vampires certainly have more reliable sources of troops than Greenskin Mercs though.

>>52406833
Every time someone mentions the borderline dieselpunk tech dwarves and skaven have in the setting, I love it a little bit more.

>>52431413
If Ogres make good mercenaries, then there's no reason why Orcs can't. Goblins, on the other hand, that's slightly trickier.

>>52434723
>races with animosity
>reliable mercenaries
Choose one

>>52434839
There is such a thing as dwarf mercenaries, mate. (Long Drong Pirates, if I recall correctly)

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>>52432319
As excited as I am for the Lizardmen, kinda worried what's NOT going to make the cut. CA, while very good at adapting the races to Vidya format, left out some iconic units.

Lizardmen are the ones I would be sad most for not getting all the dinos :(

Never going to get Dread Saurian...

>>52433137
It fucking sucked.
I was a newfag to the setting but I grew up on Warcraft 2, it felt like I was finally reading the book that inspired my long-time favorite movie.

But whatever. Got my minis, had enough material to delve into that it may as well be ongoing, and I can see its better off divorced from GW.

What's the point of halfling PCs when humans and elves are way better?

>>52435140
PIES!

>>52435140
Fool's luck.

>>52434723
Technically just about any race can be mercenaries, if for whatever reason groups among them could decide to fight for gold, or even just for the sake of fighting, on behalf of an employeer.

Dwarven warriors stranded far from home, Dark Elves interested in making a name for themselves outside of the archaic titles of Naggaroth, Bretonnian knights with besmirched honor, Wood Elves stuck in a hunt they can barely focus...and that's not even considering some of the canon mercenaries. A bunch of Lizardmen Cold One riders that will fight for Lizardmen artifacts as payment, Mengil Manhide's Manflayers, the Cursed Company, a High Elf Dragon Rider...even a lot of the more mundane human mercenaries have reasons behind being mercenaries that could be applied to other races. Leopold's Leopard Company was outcast from their city and fight for a mix of survival and piety - who's to say that some Dwarves couldn't have felt they had shamed their ancestors, but instead of taking the slayer oath, they felt they could redeem themselves through gold earned in battle?

>>52434867
Long Drong was a cabin boy as long as he could remember, brought by his father to work on the same ship as a small child, and worked his way to captain of his own Ironclad. None of the crew had ever seen a woman since they'd spent their entire lives at sea like him so they approximated what one must look like for a figurehead. He ran aground during a storm and he was so ashamed at losing all the fantastic booze the whole crew swore the Oath.
He then kicked the ass of a pirate as soon as he was a Slayer and learned all he could about piracy.

So he became a freebooter, reclaiming wrecks and attacking Destruction races or any asshole pirates. He sells back anything he reclaims so long as they give him a chest full of gold, its up to you to decide literally if what you lost is worth its weight in gold; Drong doesn't care if what he gives you back is more valuable, its about honor and restoring to other captains lost cargo like he wishes he could do for himself.

He has a full-on diver team for reclaiming, the kind the new AoS Dwarfs actually look like. The rest of the crew are Slayers like himself.

>>52435140
Cannibalism and Tolkien jokes.

>>52435185
Your post reminds me of the golden age of GW writing.

Just saying.

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>>52435237
Well, thanks for the compliment. GW used to be really good about keeping things flexible and leaving plenty of room and ideas for interesting stories. Or maybe it was the fanbase that changed, with more ideas about what can't work or wouldn't be possible, I don't know.

Either way, there used to be a lot of good stories that played with how things could work, or how hardline ideas were worked around. That's something I love about Bretonnia, personally - their system is so strict and stupid that in many ways it's not feasible, so there's a lot of looking the other way, technicalities, and edging as close to breaking the law as possible, and many other stupid but fun things. It gives you a lot of moments where you can go 'how can I make this idea work?'

>>52435558
It was executive.

Most of the same guys writing then are writing now. But who is telling them to write what has changed.

I think "forge the narrative" is as much as they are allowed to give now.

>>52435140
Not in every way. Halfling PCs will start with 10 more fellowship than characters of the other species so if you want to make a 'party face' then Halflings are the way to go. They also start with a good Ballistic skill so equipping one with a ranged weapon will allow the player to contribute in a fight. They also start off bilingual with Academic Knowledge and a far larger variety of skills than other species. They also start out with resistance to chaos which means they can safely juggle warpstone (or at least, not mutate, they'll still suffer 2nd and 3rd degree burns). Going by raw combat stats, they are quite weak but as WHFRP is a Roleplaying game, they will be helpful in social interactions and non-combat utility.

>>52433137

We're better off being independent from GW.

We can get back to what the hobby should be about, being creative and not having to dance to a company's tune who have mishandled the setting since Priestly left.

>>52434839

Orcs are going to fight whatever happens.

If someone is going to feed, pay or house them while doing so then that's a win win for them.

The main problem is having someone who is willing to swallow their pride and seek a contract with them.

>>52435140

Pie day.

>>52435558
I love that art!

>>52435838
Hence me asking about Strigoi.

He's big, cunnun', his boyz can fight even after they die, and he shares loot.

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>>52428196
>this, the spirit of Warhammer was always captured in it's artwork

I'm glad someone understands this. Pic related is one of the best art styles in Warhammer for me, along with the works of Adrian Smith and a few others. Dark, detailed, gritty and filled with more than just carbon copies of the models. Some of the artwork really inspired me to convert and customize my stuff since the art was cool, but there was no real GW model for it.

The new art style looks a little cartoony. It just doesn't draw me in.

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>>52435895
I know, right? Some of the concept art had some beautiful ideas for models, but also for bits of things that probably would rarely show up on the tabletop. I'm biased towards Bretonnia, so some of my favorites show civilians or artisan monks, but there's also some great stuff for other factions.

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>>52435985
One of my favorites in that regard is this art. Notice that the Bretonnian knight has an axe for once, not a sword or a lance, and the Red Duke has this awesome skull helmet.

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>>52435985

I agree completely with you buddy.
I remember when I was young and imagined whole stories behind each and everyone of these old style art works.
The only new ones I've seen that are even vaguely comparable would be pic related (with the lovely addition that not every warrior depicted is a carbon copy of a model) and that sigmarine one where you can see a couple of Sigmarines surrounded by allied flagellants painted in a resemblence of the old artwork.

Then again

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My favorite artwork have to be this one.

It not only depicts my favorite faction (Warriors of Nurgle) but the focus of the work lies not on the battle (which takes place in the background) but on some kind of religious ritual in which a Champion of Nurgle, surrounded by acolytes of Nurgle, is making his way through the Chaos Horde.

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>>52437304
Yeah, the Elf heads and the maggot offering are good detail. Not to mention the mystery of whats in the giant cages.

I think I have to go with this. This in one image looks like what GW tries to write Daemons to before they fuck the mood by talking about them like ordinary characters or involving the mortals.

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>>52438090

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Make way for the best artist.

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>>52437304
>little cultist dude offering up a maggot to the champion

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I know that for a lot of people they're just 'generic medieval Europe the faction,' but I wish there had been more art of undead or Chaos-tainted Bretonnians, for peasants and knights alike. It feels like that was missing from a lot of art.

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Ran a test of a novel scan today, this seems acceptable to me.

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>>52438356
that looks like dog shit
the artist clearly tried to do a hyper metal style and failed horribly
heres how it looks when its done right

>>52438733

John Blanche is his own style and he shares power with no one.

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>>52438760
i dont think anyone wants whatever "power" he has

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>>52438786
John Blanche is one of the more well-known artists of the Warhammer franchise, and that really is his main power - he's recognizable, well known and mostly beloved. His art isn't perfect - even he admits that he prefers to be sketchier and faster with his hard to make it less wooden - but it's almost synonymous with the franchise. I tend to think John when I think of Warhammer, over artists I prefer more!

If I recognize that artist right, that's the artist for Requiem. He does great work - the series is fantastic and I've read it several times. But it also very, very distinct from John Blanche. I'm not artist, and I haven't Requiem in a while, but I remember it being grossly ornate and detailed, whereas Blanche seems to prefer blank backgrounds, or allow large amounts of detail to fade into the background a bit. Blanche feels evocative and exciting - there's a lot of movement and expression most of the time, even without much detail on the faces. Colors are often muted browns or greys or whites, which allows the colors like reds and yellows and blacks to stand out - whereas Requiem's artist seems to prefer brighter, starker colors that will contrast or complment each other. His details and lines seem crisper, but that also looks a bit of the fluidity - those two pieces especially look rather posed, but I remember Requiem feeling a little bit stiff. Also, he used a lot of reds and blacks - probably because the story was set in hell, but it did begin to blur together.

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>>52440533
your opinions are wrong

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>>52440719
Nuh uuuuuh

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>>52440719

We've talked about this numerous times, whatever criticisms you may have of his technical ability he pretty much set the tone for Warhammer.

Some of you RPGers might be interested in the Karak Azgaraz OST.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcH798pi48A

Quite a different take on Dwarfs.

>>52438733
Wait..is that the Vampire Requiem guy?

>>52441965
yes

>>52442004
Legit, or just coincidental?

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Best WFB conversions?

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>>52442025

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>>52442164

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>>52442205

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I love this one.

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"Slaanesh promised me everything, but only High Elves gives me the moisturizing effect all ladyboys want."

>>52442292

NICE!

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Do I win?

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>>52403579

Skaven were best because you had to build some of the models yourself

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I'm sad that most of my miniatures folder is 40k related. I still like 40k enough that I can enjoy looking at WIPs or beautifully painted models, but I wish I had more in the way of WFB miniatures. I don't know if it was that they were unpopular or that I skipped over what showed up, or what.

>>52442762
40k had the boom from vidya, when internet sharing of conversions was more of a thing.

But its not hard to find Fantasy. Every army site has a gallery.

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>>52438356
>those heels

NOVELS WHERE

>>52435702
What does "forge the narrative" even mean?

reee prince of altdorf why are you only in the collector's edition

>>52444747

It means that if both players agree then they shouldn't be afraid to tinker with the rules if they think it will make a game more fun, also stuff like letting a story dictate aspects of a battle and coming up with names and a story for your army.

To reiterate, it's GW actually having to explain to people that they're playing a game and supposed to be enjoying themselves and that deviating from the official rules is not a mortal sin.

Unbound was part of this as well. It was GW saying that it's fine if you want to have a battle using an army or armies that don't follow any rules regarding construction.

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>>52442734
man I absolutely loved the set of mousillon inspired bretonnians, it really hooked me when I saw pictures of it years ago to the setting, Infact so much so that I ended up being a whole lot more interested in the setting. So obviously I ended up making a mod to replicate them in tw:w.
I ended up playing empire anyway on the tt with almost no regrets but a part of me wishes I had something just a little spookier

>>52435031
Fortunately mods exist. I have faith that they'll put in most every unit (gimme Stegadon) and if they don't have it it'll be stuck in.

Do Warhammer vampire fuck?

I need to know...
For stuff

>>52447144
This. Someone's already got a Tomb Kings mod going, and it's pretty excellent so far. Doesn't have its own campaign yet, but you can purchase the units through a VC playthrough.

>>52447233
Its main job of Lahmians, Von Carsteins and Blood Dragons could, Strigoi and Necrarch are too ugly and busy.

i have recently played my 5th game of 9th age. I play empire. Am i a terrible person for enjoying 8e more ? its seems so much more fun. 9th overly complicates magic and just manages to not fix most problems that 8e had. It seems so... I dont know, artificial ? like we wanted to make a better game but didnt take any chances. I will try next week 6e as many of you say it the best. I first started playing with 6e but it was a long time ago an i remeber very little. Also the Steam Tank sucks ass in 9th age.

>>52444889
When you emphasize tourneys its no surprise people want decent legit comp rules.

>>52447233
According to the Ulrika books, yes. Even Strigoi.

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>>52447600
>>52447308
Are there specifics?

>>52447438
No.

But your opinions are based on how your army performs using your existibg netlist for 8e, as opposed to the internal and external balance of T9A and 6e.

>>52447627
Ulrika's "grandmother" (sire of her sire) fucks her human guards and feeds on them producing a euphoria and dreamlike loyalty.
She later has to calm down an important Nuln noble who's vampire wife was killed. He's fat and insists all vampires are evil other than his pure waifu, she fucks him to calm him down until he can be assigned another wife by Neferata and is generally disgusted by him since he likes her warrior fucktoys.
There's a former child prostitute turned into the pet of Ulrika's vampgranny's political rival. This loli flirts with Ulrika openly and is clearly in a /ll/ relationahip with her mistress.
Vampires who fuck, feed. When they mix blood they gain traits of each other's bloodlines and as a result try to stay "pure" and the Lahmian in charge of the brothel is low rank because she fucked a Strigoi and can turn into animals lile oldschool Dracula because of it.

That's just in the first book.

>>52447764
*since she likes her warrior

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>>52447764
Huh

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>>52447805
Just read Ulrika: Bloodborne. Also the Genevieve omnibus.

Have there ever been dwarven or elven vampires?

>>52447984
Elven, I'm almost completely certain there were. Dwarven...I dunno. I'm wracking my brain, trying to remember if there were, but I don't know for sure. The Gotrek & Felix novels, for instance, covered a shitload of topics and enemies, and I don't think they ever came to that point.

>>52447233
I'm sure Vlad and Isabella had plenty of sex

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>>52438733
>rapier axes

I'm not even mad.

>>52442713

I think there are at least 2 warlord configuration that were never released.

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>>52447984

>>52447764
I'm pretty sure a lot of people consider that book questionably canon, for the bloodmixing thing alone.

Are there any books which focus on or include the lizardmen to a significant degree?

>>52446640
You might like this mod that I was recommended then:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=842895473

It ended up not being the mod for me, because despite actually adding Black Grail Knights (fuck yeah), it also added too many normal humans. It's not that I think that all vampire units shouldn't be treated as living - the Ghouls and Crypt Horrors should be two notable exceptions, and it's a little silly how Necromancers are treated as undead with Binding as well - but they have almost no skeletons or zombies, and feel less undead as much as a cursed living dukedom.

>>52448433
There is no Black Library book that isn't questionable canon after the reveal of how their novels are written during End Times.

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>>52436955
This looks a lot like 40k. I miss when Chaos Warriors were distinct from CSM. AoS had a chance for good art design too.

>>52443411

I'm working on it.

Might have found out what happened to the previous torrent though, seems the people running it have turned their collection into a private group.

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>>52442508
10/10, would tip Skyre extra warp tokens

>>52447885

Don't suppose you have links or could post them?

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>>52447233
What else do you do in Sylvania all day.

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>>52448571
>looks like 40k

Don't do that.

>>52448692
In the OP.

>>52448894

The links dead, the Genevieve series isn't included in the other link.

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>>52448766
But it does. It honestly took me a second to figure out that it probably was fantasy because there were no bolters present and a wooden shield. Especially the chap in front, the gorget looks very space marine.

>>52448375
So only a super degenerate insane vampire would make a Vampire non-humie?

>>52449041
Yes like Mannfred who turned high elf princess, Vlad said it was waste but still missed her when Tyrion killed her.

>>52449105

Ah, young love.

>>52449105
Eldyra?

Man that was a lore clusterfuck.

Its pretty bad when TES Oblivion and WoW Cataclysm had better adherence to the lore bible.

>>52442292
This is pretty much my all time favorite conversion I've seen.

It's funny, it tells a story and it looks nice!

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Anyone in here still angrymad about the end times: You cannot destroy a fictional setting.

You can't destroy something that's fictional.

People are still playing WHFB like nothing ever happened. Hell, I know some people who play AoS using the Old World as their setting (honestly it does kinda work well for fast skirmish games).

That said, which WHFB novel is one of the best and why is it pic related?

>>52449827

I've never read it anon, Rider of the Dead I assume?

>>52448968
What exactly makes you think that it looks like 40K? To my eyes it's clearly a bunch of mouldy fantasy warriors.

>>52447984
Ive read about a dwarven vampire, I can't remember what book he was in, I want to say the gotrek and felix series, maybe?

>>52449992
dont respond to retards please

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>>52450086

Here's an artists impression.

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>>52450114
God dang it Manny.

That boy ain't right.

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Does anyone know where I can get an unopened box of the old WHF Chaos Warriors in plastic from gen 5-8?
I can't find any on any countries ebay or local stores in germany.
I wish to put them to good use in my Slaanesh Cult Dark Elves army.

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>>52450545

You mean the ones they still sell now or these?

>>52450112
Why not, don't you like entertainment?

>>52450619
Those would be fine, yup. The AOS ones aren't that nice.

>>52450545

I too would like to know where I can find some of the ones depicted in >>52450619
I want me some nurgle hunchbacks!

>>52438733
You do realize there's like 24 years between that Blanche piece and Requiem, right? You're literally bitching about 80's not looking enough like 80's, unlike a piece from the 2000's.

>>52450679
>>52450687

Well... finding an unopened box is like asking for gold dust I imagine.

There are a few painted ones on eBay that you could strip?

Here's 22 for £15:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Warhammer-Fantasy-Older-5th-Edition-plastic-OOP-Chaos-Warriors-x22-/222439551539?hash=item33ca6e3233:g:gBAAAOSwSlBYx9Vq

That's probably as good as you're going to get. Even the metal ones are extortionate.

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>>52449827
I remember when the Lion King came out and kids at school would go around punching people. When they were challenged about it, they'd just do an impression of Rafiki saying 'don't worry about it, it's all in the past'.

It's like sure, ok, the GW police didn't come round to my house and burn my books. But that doesn't mean the whole situation isn't a complete shitfest.
So I'm going to continue being pissed at GW for being terrible even though they don't owe me anything.

>>52450795

It's all just been a huge shitfest for everyone.

No new content for WHFB

GW didn't see the rise in sales they wanted.

AoS fans will be disappointed in 5 years when it happens to them.

>>52449827
The setting isn't destroyed, but the community that once played in it is irreparably fractured. There isn't even an agreement on how WFB should now be played.

As for novels, I'm just not all that well read on them. I prefer the short story anthologies overall anyway. But the Gotrek and Felix novels are hard to argue against, especially since they have plenty of good lore tidbits.

>>52450792
That's true and thanks... For some reason I'm really bad at finding stuff online? I mean I checked ebay UK. Guess I'm a retard in general or my peripheral vision is poor whilst scrolling through the pages or something.

I suppose I might get a box of the modern ones for some parts and bits as well, but it'd have to be from a private third party seller so GW doesn't get any additional shekels from me.

>>52450882
Could try Bartertown, there's always good stuff there. Just gotta go through the "I'm a noob so no one trusts me" period that everyone else went through, and then you're golden.

>>52449827
>honestly it does kinda work well for fast skirmish games
>AoS
>fast

>>52449827

If you want a fast fantasy skirmish game play Dragon Rampant.

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I'm kinda confused, are the Child of Ulric weres or not? Their statistics doesn't really fit.

The Child of Ulric is actually closer to a stronger Giant Wolf, is it the full wolf form or what? Can the Child of Ulric only change into full wolf form but not into hybrid form?

>>52451793
also sb and tb 3 with s 45 and t 47? wtf

>>52450852
Trump, Brexit, the death of David Bowie...things have been fairly garbage lately.

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>>52452020

> Brexit
> bad

>>52451793

Seems that way.

Werewolves are usually more associated with Chaos. SoU are probably more like shape shifters.

>>52452288
>40% loss of companies and services
>Good

>>52452422
>money is more important than citizen sovereignty and attempted democracy
smells like bait

>>52449827
I'm mad that they took a really fun and rich setting and decided to not only discard it, destroy it in the most boring way possible. What a damn waste.

>>52452864
Hear that?

Its the dissonant sounds of Churchill rolling in his grave while jets of semen burst from the dick of the ghost of Stalin.

>>52452864
You're an island monarchy. If you don't have money, you have nothing.

Take it to /pol/ lads.

The battles over anyway.

>>52453479
At least they started this when the thread is on auto-sage anyway. Very mature of them.

>>52453479
The battle for Scotland is just beginning.

>>52452020
Kill yourself.

Fresh

>>52456475
>>52456475
>>52456475

Bread