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Mana crypt is how much?! Edition

Last time, on /edh/: >>52385123

RESOURCES

>Official Site: Contains deck building rules and the current ban list.
http://www.mtgcommander.net

>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck’s strategy and card choices.
http://www.tappedout.net

>Another resource for commander discussion; they have an entire forum dedicated to discussing decks. People often make primers, which go into detail about how they built and play their deck.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the the internet.
http://www.edhrec.com/

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen Commander’s color identity.
http://manabasecrafter.com/

CARD SEARCHING

>Official search site. Current for all sets.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/

>Unofficial, but has GOAT search interface.
http://magiccards.info/

>Thread question
What cards have you seen fall in price during your time playing magic? Did you get any sweet deals?
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Free my dude
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>What cards have you seen fall in price during your time playing magic? Did you get any sweet deals?

I think the best thing I got was probably Damnation thus far. Just picked one up for $25. Other than that, do you count judge promos? Got Hannah and Azusa for $25 each when I think they were like, $70.

Also, I made this cuz Ive always wanted to do spirit tribal with Iname. Thoughts?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/green-spirit-tribal/
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>What cards have you seen fall in price during your time playing magic? Did you get any sweet deals?
Mana crypt is literally 65 canadian dollery doos right this second. I bought a linvala and a crypt for $85.
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>>52399282

I'll have to soul search for that answer
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New Meren deck. Meant to play around how good the synergies are between Winding Constrictor and Experience & +1/+1 counters. Deck also has a built in sub-theme of dredge, threshold, and delirium. Delirium is achievable in the deck but is really only meant to help get cards in the yard while also turning Traverse into a huge payoff card. Includes the Necrotic Ooze combo.

Even without delirium, Traverse is a great card to cast because you can dump Dakmor Salvage into your graveyard and kick off the dredging.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/death-nel/
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>>52400788
Got a crypt for 30 euros 2~ months ago.

On a completely opposite note, have you all bought your Mikaeus yet before it spikes to 50 bucks?
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I've been collecting magic cards in the hopes of building a pimp deck for a very VERY long time. Right now I'm at critical mass, and if I take apart some of the things I'm running now, I know I can make one "good" deck, but I need help choosing which one to make. For a little summary, I like to do a bit of everything. I started as a stompy gruul player, but I've since evolved and can use almost any deck. I love big numbers almost as much as I love efficiency, but I'm still a jank master at heart.

Here are the options:

>Gruul Artifacts
Think "Xenagos meets Darietti". Could be good, could be exactly the same as Xenagos, but all in all it will probably be fun.

>Kruphix goodstuff
Exactly what you expect. Eldrazi titans, counterspells everywhere, all the ramp I can fit. I'd prefer not to go the combo route, but I'm not overly picky.

>Maelstrom Wanderer Value Engine
Kruphix meets Xenagos. I love embracing the RNGods, and I've acquired some really powerful things that will help this out.

>Something something Discard and Reanimate
I have every discard card you could want, but nowhere to use them. The options are Lazav steal your shit and hand control, Mogis damage doublers and pump, Mimeoplasm or Jeleva three colour goodstuffl. I just haven't found a way to make this work, so I'm a little hesitant.

>Wxx stax
Brago and Gaddock Teeg are two things I already run, but I know if I condense them together they'd be ungodly. I have a bunch of stax effects and hatebears that are itching for a good home, and an Elesh Norn/Vorinclex that are just sitting in my binder, but objectively, white is my weakest colour.

>Literally any Monocoloured Artifact/Ramp deck
I have enough rocks and support cards to build a very strong deck in monocolour, but I suffer from a distinct lack of cards that synergize with a lot of monocoloured generals. Options include Yosei, Jin Gitaxias, Dirty Mikaeus, Feldon or Yisan, but I'm open to suggestions.
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>>52401488
No, please no.

Don't kill the budget mikaeus dream.
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>>52401723
He didn't get reprinted in MM3 which was focused on RTR and Innistrad. Unless he's in the next commander product or id there's gonna be an FTV: Undead you're not gonna see a reprint any time soon.

Only gonna get more expensive from here.
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Should I build Daxos Returned, nothin' but Enchantments or Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord?
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When your wife makes you a shelving unit to store your collection
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>the GW player ramps into Privileged Position and Nature's Wrath by turn 3
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>>52401989
>>52402010
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>>52402037
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>>52401902
FTV: Undead would be great.
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>>52402054
That's really sweet.

I need to get some proper storage for my cards too.
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>>52402101
The only alteration: It needs to be sold/advertised as "From the Crypt"
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>>52401902
They were focusing a lot on multicolor, so a card with BBB in the casting cost wouldn't get reprinted unforuntately.
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>>52402169
>autism
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>>52402148
You should be hired for WotC's marketing, this idea is diamonds.
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>>52402215
They design the sets with a focus on making it a good draft format, naturally some cards that need reprints will be omitted due to not fitting in.

They make some exceptions (Daybreak Coronet, Blood Moon), but overall a card with a heavy single color won't get printed in a set that tries to make people draft 2-3 color decks.
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Who else runs Eldrazi Energy with a side of Planar Bridge here?
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>>52402469
I do have energy cards and planar bridge in my Eldrazi deck, yes.
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>>52401488
>tfw I want to collect all the Dark Ascension cards because it was the set I started playing
>Mikaeus is at 16€
Fug
Yes, I'm "poor"
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JUDGE? !

say my Reaper king and 4 scarecrows get exiled at the same time due to ghostway,

When they all return, even though reaper king is entering at the same time, will I get the destruction proques?

Tldr: is mass flicker viable in reaper king
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>>52402853
Better get it now because it will inevitably rise soon. Even if the -1/-1 counter theme ends up sub-optimal, it will give plenty of cards legal in eternal formats that synergize with dirty Mike.

It's the same deal with mana crypt honestly. Either you get it now, since it will never be cheaper, or you wait like a bitch and feel sad when the price becomes too high.
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>>52402905
Yes. In a same way Rite of Replication on RK blows up 25 permanents, flicker works as well, so in your situation 4 permanents.
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Spoiler alert: the Masterpieces are creatures this time and the Gods are all monicolored >4cmc. They also have Masterpiece Gods.
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>>52403495
Seems dubious. They're called "Invocations" which sounds a lot more like Instants/Sorceries.
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How can I slow a game to a grinding halt in mono-black without using the typical stax package? Stuff that fucks card advantage is preferred, since my general is Erebos

Stuff like Necrogen Mists, Bottomless Pit, and Painful Quandary is what I'm thinking along the lines of.
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>>52404071
Personally I run Spreading Plague and Tainted Aether
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>>52402054
>Colors are all off
>No deckmaster
>No the Gathering
>No borders
>No pen mark
Sorry dude your wife made a cheap Chinese knockoff.

At least she got the color wheel right
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>>52404071
As >>52404150 says, plus Lethal Vapors, Night of Soul's Betrayal, Descent into Madness, Bottomless Pit, and Necrogen Mists.
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>>52404262
>at least she got the color wheel right
Lime isn't a color in MTG.
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>>52403577
invoke = summon
creatures are summon spells
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>>52403577
You invoke a god.
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>>52400974
Recurring Nightmare and Wild Research are the two cards I most want to play with Zur. One is banned and the other is red. Zur would become my only deck if I could do either of them.
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>>52404071
Have you tried Possessed Portal? If it survives to your next round you will have made +11 CA by that time or even more if you can get an Ophiomancer to stick as well.
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http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-2472-i-made-obscene-money-forging-magic-gathering-cards.html
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http://mythicspoiler.com/akh/cards/archfiendofifnir.html

>Archfiend of Ifnir 3BB
>Creature - Demon
>Flying
>Whenever you cycle or discard another card, put a -1/-1 counter on each creature your opponents control.
>Cycling 2
>5/4

>MY FUCKING FACE WHEN

My Liliana deck finally got a Damnation, and now we got this motherfucker coming.
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So is Daxos the Returned any good? I like the idea of building Enchantments and I was hoping to have a commander with green in it, for all those fun enchantment boosters. Though someone who can pump out Enchantments to trigger constellation and give me an army does sound good.
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>>52405156
Fuck off.
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>>52401488
Why the fuck would it?
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Josh Lee Kwai is my husbando
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>>52405220
He's slow but love him. Skybind is GOAT for the deck, although my current build for him focuses more on him being a Zombie than the enchantments.
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>>52405457
Oh shit, I didn't even notice he's a Zombie and a Soldier. That actually opens up a fair few cool pathways with him and Enchantments for the tribes.
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Where did you guys find your playgroups?

After another bad experience at my LGS I'm looking for a place to play while I slowly get my normie friends to play on poker nights, wondering where you guys all play.
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>Fluctuator buyout

FUCKING
DAMMIT

I JUST THOUGHT TO BUY ONE TWO DAYS AGO FOR MY SHITTY ALESHA CYCLING DECK

NOW THE ONLY ONE AVAILABLE IS $25
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>>52406219
2 guys i've known since high school + 1 guy who i met last summer

our group is nice except they attack me constantly, the fuckers
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>>52406254
looks like you have been bamboozled by the wolf of mtg street xD
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>>52406254
Why didn't you buy it at 6AM like the rest of us?
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>>52406254
What's funny is that then first thing I thought about was someone bought it out expecting wizards to accidentally print a cycle card that breaks the game made worse by Fluctuator

>inb4 stoic champion buyout
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>>52404071
Greel is pretty sweet, especially if you have grave yard shenanigans.
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>>52406274
God, I enjoy Rudy's content, but imagining all the shitters with their dad's wallet trying to "corner the market" flooding the market and following his videos makes me sad. I understand the man makes money and all, and he wants to share his methods, but fuck if it isn't a pain to see this garbage happening more and more frequently. I know he's not the cause, but he's definitely not helping when every Joe thinks he can just invest in paper products.

>>52406335
Bought 3 Mikaeus' to hedge my bets, but wasn't even thinking about my shitty deck.

>>52406338
If they reprint fluctuator in this set, my sides will be fucking gone. If they print something better, I will ascend from this mortal form.
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Can you kind folks off some constructive criticism of my new King Macar deck? My initial idea was to be a somewhat stax deck, but I guess I'm out of my element. Any suggestions are appreciated!

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/macar-the-gold-benis/
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>>52406472
That quick link doesn't take you to the actual list, try copy/pasting entire link
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I wanna see some alesha lists, /tg/, show me what you got.
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>>52406736
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/alesha-who-undoes-death-edh/
Here's my casual, no combo list. Based around keeping them always at 2 or less to make use of Mentor of the Meek and Break Through the Line
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>>52406736
She is literally built the same way every time, use Google.
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>>52406736
>>52406736
I's a very budget and needs some simple things like master of cruelties. Not entirely updated I've put in some tax creatures and hushwing gryff style cards, then taken some out and I haven't kept track of what.

Any suggestions on other changes would be good.
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>>52406887
forgot to link it
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/alesha-who/
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>>52406254
Still €0.8 a piece on MCM.

€1.5 if you want an English one.

I feel sorry for you Americans.
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any secret garbage for trashy slobad eggs?
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>>52407017
Get deretti ult off, paradox engine and mana rocks. Just kind of does itself.
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>>52407017
>secret

Not really, but Scrap Trawler is the best thing to ever happen to cheap sacrifice based artifact decks.

Once dropped a KCI on turn 3 with some mana rocks, sacrificed two, played Scrap Trawler and magically drew my entire deck and made a shitload of mana recurring my cantrip artifacts, and each time I sacrificed a cantrip artifact I got back my mox opal or mana crypt for another 3-4 mana.
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hey /tcg/ got a vehicle question for you. If i have a vehicle in play that is already a creature, for instance, fleetwheel cruiser, can i still tap creatures I control to turn it into a creature? I'm trying to abuse tapping abilities.
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>>52407284
No. You can tap as many as you want activating the ability the first time, but after the vehicle is a creature you're SOL.
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>>52407284
Yes.
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>>52407296
I was mistaken, this anon is correct. >>52407307

Official Gatherer:
2/9/2017 - You may activate a crew ability of a Vehicle even if it’s already an artifact creature. Doing so has no effect on the Vehicle. It doesn’t change its power and toughness.

The more you know.
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>>52407371
thanks babe
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>>52407432
Can't go reinforcing that /tg/ being bad at magic thing.
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>>52406219
My playgroup was just my weed dealer and some of his other clients who also played. So maybe try that.
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>>52407499
what do you mean?
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>>52407838
Ongoing meme that /tg/ is bad at magic, lad.
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>>52407850
I just looked at the ruling, it checks out. Am I just being trolled
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>>52407878
I was stating I should correct myself as done here
>>52407371
So as to avoid making my board look bad. Not messing with ya.
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so I'm building a revenge deck to make 1-2 players leave the table outright, any suggestions? Thinking simic dickery
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Watching this conversation is making me lose hope in humanity.
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>>52407953
And what causes that, my man?
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>>52407948
why not just playing all sorts of black-white-blue single target removals and then targeting only them?

or if you know what decks they are playing you could put in hard counters to their strategies.
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>>52407948
I bring out my degenerate combo decks and kill the table when I want people to never come back to my LGS.

I recommend Selvala.
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>>52408135
decklist?
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>>52408215
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/selvala-brostorm

Consistent turn 3-4 wins.
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>>52408289
No one cares Sheldon.
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any budget "fast" decks out there?
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I just bought rooftop storm for a zombie deck. How jank should I make it?
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>>52408425
Zada, Hedron Grinder.
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>>52408444
I just completed my Zombies&Wizards G&G deck last night, although it doesn't seem to be wizardy at all.
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>>52408425
Purphoros, Selvala, Grenzo.
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>>52406472
i am sorry if it's not your element, but i can't think of a stronger way to do black than putting in some comboes/synergies and finding them every game with tutors.Even if the cards you tutor for are over your budget, being able to tutor them effectively gives you 3-5 copies of them into your deck at the price of one.

this let you exile creatures and generate tokens for each 4 mana
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=50162

cabal coffers let you get ridicolous amount of mana. admittely it's a bit expensive for a land moneywise.

http://www.mtgsalvation.com/cards/commander-2014/23608-arcane-lighthouse
it's a way, other than grave pact, to touch hexproof creatures.
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>>52406472
_a_ Smokestack isn't sufficient to stop anyone, and your deck can barely interact with non-creature strategies. If you actually want to Stax them out, you're going to have pack some more sources. Descent Into Madness, Necrogen Mist, Bottomless Pit, Oppression, Liliana of the Veil, Contaminion, Desolation, Pox, Smallpox, Winter Orb, Torpor Orb, Grafdigger's Cave and Cursed Totem, and if you're rich then Tabernacle, Nether Void, The Abyss and Chains of Mephistopheles.

Really though, I don't think Macar is really that great as a Stax general. It's a lot of effort to get advantage out of him, and it's not even that easy to get use of the Gold. So just play him like a normal man. Get a Forbidden Orchard and/or Eternal Scourge to always have a target in a pinch, power out large spells with Inspiring Statuary and Blinkmoth Urn (plus the traditional black methods), draw a bunch with Reprocess. If you feel fancy then go spicy with Kuldotha Forgemaster, Clock of Omens, Mycosynth Lattice, Paradox Engine and co.

Your general is repeatable removal that stockpiles mana. Just fuel all that gold into straight murder or wacky artifact shenanigans.
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>>52408289
kek'd
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How expensive is it to make a Krenko deck?
Is it worth it if I packed a blood moon and have some of the more expensive goblin cards lying around
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>>52411302
>How expensive is it to make a Krenko deck?

cheap, 80- 100 dollars gets you all the important staples

>Is it worth it if I packed a blood moon and have some of the more expensive goblin cards lying around

sure
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>>52405187
>not building 5 color cycling combo
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>>52411576
What combo is there even?
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>>52411600
Fluctuator, astral slide, eternal witness, anything that cycles for 2

Cycle card for zero due to fluctuator, triggering astral slide, blink eternal witness to return what you just discarded to your hand, repeat
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>>52406254
Just wait a month or two. Creditcard warriors gotta pay their bills one day.
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Can I get some tips into building a super janky and casual deck? I want to turn lands into creatures and win with them, there's a couple of similar decks on Tappedout but they're mostly the same cards, most don't even have Awaken cards so they're not updated..

>Naya probably
>Earth Surge
>Siege of Towers
>Nissa Worldwaker
>Awaken cards
>Anthem effects
>Terra eternal, permanent protection in general
>Ramp

Things of that nature. Seems like it could be a fun way to play, killing people by throwing continents at them.
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>>52411656
Seems like you only need GW for that. Why bother with 5C? Once you can draw your whole deck turning that into a wincon is a matter of how many style points you want to accrue.
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>>52412054
Naya is the go.

My favorite card for that kind of deck is Nantuko Monastary.

Pic related.
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>>52412054
Seems real fun until someone casts an instant speed board wipe and you're out of the game
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What's your dream hand and has it ever come true?
>Swamp
>Sol ring
>Mind stone
>mana crypt
>mana vault
>Karn
Is the closest I've gotten.
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>>52413382
>Swamp
>Dark Ritual
>Cabal Ritual
>Phyrexian Oblitarator
>Lightning Greaves
>Urborg, tomb of yawgmoth
>Top


Alternatively, something that actually happened once.

>Lotus Petal
>Lotus Petal
>Lotus Petal
>Lotus Petal
>Sliver Overlord
>Lightning Greaves
>Island
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God Masterpieces in 50 minutes.
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>>52413995
don't lie to me
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>>52413995
such a waste of masterpieces....
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Anyone help me with a cheap GW mana base for my trostani golem creature token artifact deck? Also what are some other must have green or white spells to go with it? Ive includef all the populate spells. Im thinking some kind of flicker or bounce effect for my splicers for those sweet sweet golem tokens.
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Which is a better Karador list, Hate Bears, Dredge or Hermit Druid? I mostly play multiplayer games and people at my lgs are really ramping up their lists.
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>>52414307
Boonweaver obviously.
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>>52414307
Hermit druid with boonweaver.

Sprinkle in Iona and Mindslicer.

You know you want to.
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>>52414325
I have Boonweaver in my list but what support should I add in? It feels kinda lacking atm

Here's my list

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/19-12-16-karador-dredge/
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>>52413382
zada
>dual caster mage
>sol ring
>twin flame
>god of forge
>defense grid

best i've got
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>>52413382

I have
>Untapped B source
>Dark Rit
>Entomb
>Reanimate
>Viscera Seer

in Karador but I've never hit it yet.
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>>52413382
Ancient tomb
Lotus petal
Sol ring
Mana vault
Omniscience
Show and tell
Enter the infinite
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>>52415302
Why do you have all the useless extra mana instead of counterspell protection.
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>>52413382
Snow-Covered Forest
Forest
Llanowar Elves
Invigorate
Life's Legacy
Some tutor
Card that didn't matter because I won.
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>>52413382
>Swamp
>Swamp
>Sol Ring
>Ichorclaw Myr/Plague Myr
>Unspeakable Symbol
And 2 any others. In my Skittles deck and it has happened multiple times.
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>>52415617
are you the dumb selvala player
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>>52413382
Breya:
Command Tower
Dark Ritual
Entomb
Animate Dead
Street Wraith

May as well have just played Exodia in yugioh. Hasn't happened yet.
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>>52415778
I don't post about my own list often but yes she is the Commander.
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>>52415617
Forgot my Mantle, pretty sure I drew it.
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>>52415928
>Street Wraith
?????
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>>52416436
I would assume Worldgorger combo.
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>>52415617
Clue me in, what's going on here?
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>>52416685
See
>>52416056
Infinite mana, drew my deck.
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>>52416871
I'm not seeing it.
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>>52416929
Commander is Selvala.
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>>52416929
He's just trolling. There's no interactions in the cards that can generate infinite mana or card draw.
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>>52417885
Are you retarded?
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four minutes till spoilers
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>>52418027
Oketra is shit.
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>>52418027
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>>52418080
Told you.
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>>52418027
werid
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>>52418118
Now I've got to play these just to confuse the fuck out of my opponent.
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>>52418118
>>52418080
This shit looks like the fucking Ancient Mew card from Pokemon. What the fuck.
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>>52418080
>>52418118
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>>52418118
SPHINX
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>>52418275
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>>52418080
>you want us to reprint Aven Mindcensor without the Future Sight card frame?
>sure, here you go
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>>52418275

WOG
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>>52418317
COUNTERSPELL PAUPER GO
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>>52418275
>>52418317
>>52418359
holy macaroni
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>>52418377
more pauper swag
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>>52418388
pact
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>>52418428

ITS CRYPTIC
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where's even the source for this
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>>52418001
No, are you? Those don't do shit together. At least replace Llanowar elves to make your bait more convincing, since now you're just being like that faggot that used to spam Magosi+Vorel combo
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I'm trying to tell myself "they probably look better in real life", but it's not working.
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>>52418566
If they look better in real life that'd be stellar.

I'll take this design in compensation for the card design of aftermath being atrocious.
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>>52418275
>both players have one on the field
>new turn
>both draw their deck
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>>52418626
>may
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>>52418566
https://twitter.com/TrickMTG/status/846850855626145792
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I personally think the invocations are okay.

Here's hoping everyone hates them enough that they don't become 50$+ cards
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>>52418957
I'm not crazy about how they look, but yeah, I'll be more than willing to buy them if they become cheaper due to how much everyone else seems to hate them.
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These are the ugliest card frames I could have ever imagined. I hope someone gets fired for this.
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>>52419056
I think they look great.

Whoever designed the card design for aftermath should be fired though.
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>>52411656

Maybe you should reread Astral slide before you go crazy over your 4 card combo there champ.
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Should I do make Iname, Life Aspect Spirit tribal or Lovisa Coldeyes Warrior/Berserker/Barbarian tribal?
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>>52419335
Make Lovisa soldier tribal
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>>52419144
The colorless mana symbols are what drives me up a wall more than anything. Also did you see the half assed shit they did for the color identity symbol on pact?
That kind of stuff really interferes with card readability.

I do like the centered text though, that's a unique touch.
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>>52419568
>more glyphs on the left than the right

I know they're doing this so the names are centered but holy shit it looks SO FUCKING BAD
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>>52419495
>colour symbol
Literally what are you talking about? The colour of the card are stripes on the frame.
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There's 54 of these....
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>>52419663
I think he's talking about this.
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>>52419729
I noticed that too, but didn't mention it because I thought every other card had it too, but apparently not. The excessive swirls and shit are stupid, but I like the card look overall. The card name and -type fonts are kind of silly as well, and might as well use comic sans for it.
Why not use the same font that's in the rules text?
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>>52419568
I don't think it's physically possible to depict and image of people worshipping a god in a more awkward and boring way
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>>52420339
Mind Twist looks the best so far, and its mostly because the accents are all the same color
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>>52408289
Why do memers have EDH so much?
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>Got a new deck box from my Grandmother yesterday
>She sees me using things like this all the time
>Perfect colours for my Daxos, Returned deck with shiny golden symbols on black

>The motherfucker only holds 80 sleeved cards

I feel like I've been super cucked by the box. I thought about using it for tokens but I only generate 3 different types of them and don't have any nice custom ones. Anyone have ideas on what I could us it for? It's about the size of an Ultra-Pro one.
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>>52408289
>>>>>>>>>>Competitive
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>>52420532
They can't handle people having fun.

But pack rat vs samurai tribal vs norin+impact tremors seems like an entertaining matchup, at the least
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Is Cockatrice community going down the toilet? I've been getting kicked for comboing out, for general selection (Kynaios 2 gud?), and so on. I've pretty much never been kicked before, let alone for asinine bullshit like this.
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imagine what could have been
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>>52420947
the "hieroglyphics" are pretty ok though
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>>52420947
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>>52420996
but you cant read them
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>>52421027
You can mostly read them.

Besides the rules text is fine
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take a drink for each different font on the new cards
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>>52421067
I would die.
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>>52408425
Nekusar if you don't mind playing without tutors
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so they just decided to spoil all the blue cards on the first day, right?
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>>52422238
Look at the crunch.
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>>52422506
for the masterpieces? I thought it was just by set
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>>52422549
They still have an ordered C#.
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>>52420339
reprinting force of will. Huh. Cool I guess.
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Loyal Retainers reprint
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>>52423708
daze too, since no one posted it
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this too
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>transitioned my deck into a 'zombies matter' theme at the release of Aether Revolt
>new spoilers start showing new and old Zombie critters
>mfw I have a foil Mikeaus, Graveborn Muse, and Gravespawn Sovereign ready to welcome their new brethren into the fold.
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>>52423925
That's my face when I bought a Fluctuator at $2.
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>>52423925

>gravespawn sovereign
>tap 5 (five) zombies

Cool card but damn, seems hard to get going
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Please release something good tomorrow
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>>52423708

>tfw really need a loyal retainers for my captain sisay deck
>tfw masterpiece is too hideous to put in the deck though

Sigh
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>>52424166
I manage it with literally just Kalitas on the board, I'm sure anon's zombie tribal deck has no trouble.
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>>52424186

yeah I suppose if you only need 5 zombies to do it once per turn, that's pretty dang strong
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>>52406254
>mfw I bought mine for like $2 each in 2010 for a shitty fluctuator combo deck to piss off my casual friends

TIME TO OFFLOAD THAT GARBAGE WHILE THE MEMES ARE HOT
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R8 my Azami wizard tribal

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/time-crimes/?cat=custom&sort=

I'm looking to eventually add vendilion clique and sower of temptation once I have some extra cash

Pic unrelated I googled "Azami"
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Alright /edhg/, I checked out a new game shop today and apparently they play competitive EDH one-on-one, but with multiplayer rules. I've only ever played it casually, any suggestions for a competitive commander that's relatively budget? All I know about their meta is that there's a lot of reanimator, and one of the best decks is a Brago deck.
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>>52424400
Smash their dumb faces with Food Chain, Hermit Druid, or Boonweaver.

Alternatively Storm.
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>>52424400
>>52424436
Being someone who play Hermit Druid Sidisi, Boonweaver Karador, and Derevi Food Chain. I second this...
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>>52424400
Could also be a psycho cunt and run hatebear tribal
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>>52424436
>>52424474
Thanks, think I'll try Boonweaver. I already have a Karador deck so that works out nicely.

>>52424521
This sounds nice too though...
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>>52424544
>>52424521
Hatebears actually fits pretty much perfectly with Karador. Creature based stax.
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>>52424474

>Derevi food chain

Never seen that one how's it work?
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>>52424592
Yo Derevi is this shit with food chain. You can get around the "Only use this mana to cast creatures spells," by just infinitely exiling Derevi with the Food Chain, tap a land and float a mana, and cast Derevi and untap a land. Other then that it wins using Walking Ballista and I run several ways to search for it. All the creature tutors, Birthing Pod chain, Stax, and Hatebear stuff. Its a ton of fun to play.
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>>52424675

I don't understand how you are infinitely exiling Derevi but I do love me some birthing pod and hatebears, sounds like a sweet deck, bant is my favorite tricolor combo
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>>52424707
With Food Chain man. Just exile it and recast it. tap and untap a land ad nauseam. Ill get a list real quick mah dude
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>>52424738

But doesn't Derevi keep getting more expensive? You make 5 mana total with food chain + the untap. Eventually Derevi costs more than 5 right?
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>>52424822
Well you first establish the food chain combo with either Eternal Scourge or Misthollow Griffin + Food Chain = Infinite Creature Mana. Thats how you get the mana for Derevi. So you can Exile and Cast Derevi Infinitely and then tap untap land and boom, turns it all into colored mana. Im writing up that list now. Im missing Survial of the Fittest, Lin Vala, Glen Elendra, and ABUR duels but its still pretty good.
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>>52424908
>>52424822
Can anyone explain how the fuck Food Chain isn't banned yet? Same for Hermit Druid. I've never seen anyone use these cards without doing degenerate bullshit.
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>>52424908

Ohhhhhhh I see, very cool.

Survival of the fittest is ridiculous, sounds like an awesome deck
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>>52424946
Sheldon created the banlist around cards too powerful to run in a casual mindset, like Coalition Victory.

Food Chain is not a problem in his playgroup and thus he sees no reason to ban it.
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>>52424946
Because Sheldon plays Prossh, and hurting Food Chain hurts his baby. I'm pretty sure someone on the RC runs a 5c Druid turbo deck. Another issue is trying to figure out what's degenerate vs someone being salty as fuck about a card.
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>>52424953
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/hungry-derevi-food-chain/
ayooooo here you go my dude hope this peaks some interest
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>>52425099

Piques
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>>52425099

Your polluted delta is listed as a polluted dead I think
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>>52425131
Its 1 oclock in the morning after 3 big tests my dude excuse me
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>>52425158
Fixed.
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>>52425160

That's okay I'm just really high and ocd so I correct people, my b
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Oh god thank you /edh/
A few days back some guy told me about his deck that tries to copy Epic spells as much as possible. I recreated this archetype, and holy hell it was fun to go off.
Eternal Dominion is pretty much my favorite card in the game and ascending to godhood by stealing from their decks four times a turn felt amazing.
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>>52425231

Sounds super awesome
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Is cockatrice.woogerworks.com down right now? Can't connect to it but can connect to other servers.
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>>52425231
list?
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>>52425231
How do you copy it multiple times a turn?
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>>52425867
Melek springs to mind
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>>52425867

The epic triggers are also copied. Epic is not a cast trigger, it's a delayed trigger set up by the resolution of the epic spell. So copying the epic spell means each copy sets up its own epic trigger every upkeep for the rest of the game
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Im trying to building a GW commander deck with Captain Sisay (can be tapped to search library for any legendery spell).
The idea is pretty simple. Have enough mana to play the nasty legends you can cherry pick from your library + what you draw regulary and preferably go for legends that built a combo with whatever you've got on your hand.

Any tips for must haves ?

>>52407948
Memory Jaw + Liliana's Carres is allways good for some rage quits.

If you never want so see them again play 4× Hatred and fill the deck with unblockables and mana sources.
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Any sick tech for Melek High Tide?
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>>52418275
>borders are ass
>artwork is incredible
Fuck, I'm so torn.
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>>52426269
Paradox Engine, Reki, Selvala 1 and 2, Gaddock Teeg.
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>>52418626
More like neither player draws
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>>52426578
Time Spiral
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>>52424364
Missing Mind over Matter and Labman.
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>>52426717
Yea, Reki is a must have bought it a few days ago.
Paradox Engine would be realy sweet. Didn't even know that card yet, thanks for the tip. The mono g Selvala is also nice I hope one of the guys from my mtg group want's to get rid of his.
Gaddok Teeg would not do well with some of my other cards althoug he's evil vs artefact decks , I'll think about it.
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Good 4 drops for Karador?
I keep wanting to cut B Pod cause I play a handful of 3 drops and 0 4s. I would play sad robo but I only play 5 basics on account of my H Druid.
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Archangel avacyn is a fun commander, pass it on.
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>>52426998
Temur Sabertooth, Karametra's Acolyte, Restoration Angel obviously, Corpsejack Menace if he fits the deck.
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>>52427199
That's what I tried to tell people when she was released but /tg/ was filled with shitposting at that time.
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Boardwipe tribal with big cat. Yes or no?
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>>52427457
Just play Zurgo you hipster
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>>52427457
thats a big meow
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>>52427478
But everyone plays Zurgo, man.

>>52427483
The biggest.
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>>52427457
Queen marchess or zurgo if u wanna be like that.
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>>52427457
No
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>>52421012
This is a massive improvement
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>>52401989

>Those legs
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Which of the partner commanders can be decent by themselves? I feel like playing something different but only want to go 2 colours because all my good mana rocks are in my Sliver deck.
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>>52427574
You need to play a partner with another half. Vial smasher is pretty good otherwise.
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So if I use a card like Consulate Crackdown to temporarily exile an opponents stuff, is there anyway to keep it there permanently? I was thinking Eldrazi Processors but I couldn't think of any good ones in Orzhov colours that are worth running.
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>>52427625
Maybe stifling the delayed trigger? I'm not sure if it's possible, since it doesn't have two triggers, but rather delayed one like with Obzedat. I think that it's possible, but having ETB- and LTB- triggers mashed into one sentence prevents the bullshittery that was possible with o-ring and friends.
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>>52427574

>if you don't attack me you get to draw an extra card, you love drawing cards, right Timmy
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>>52427457
nigga he got a shield, give him one of the 5 0/3 vig shields that exist.
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>>52427679
just you wait till i get my leviathan.
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>>52427679
>if you use a painland you get to draw an extra card AND you can attack me, you love attacking people that use trash cards, right Timmy
FTFY
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>>52427777
>draw card at endstep
>if you didn't damage me

read the card
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>>52427806
>draw card at endstep
>if someone other than me lost life
FTFY

The card is garbage man, give it up
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>Until end of turn, you may play it as though it were in your hand without paying its mana cost.


Quick question:
If I deal combat damage with Yidris and then cast Mind's Desire, will it trigger cascade for the exiled spells?
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>>52427866
Read the Oracle text
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>>52427806
>can't read
>instructs someone else to read a card he can't read
How ironic
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>>52427944
well, if he attacks me, i take damage and loses life, right? therefor he won't get to draw a card

or am i missing something?
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>>52427866
Dude, no. This discussion has already been worn for god's sake. "As though as it were in your hand"- but it's not in your hand, is it? Yidris only gets triggers from casts straight from hand, but MD doesn't put the cards in your hand, but exiles them.
It only means that you can cast them at any time during your turn, but you still have timing restrictions, like you can't cast creatures and sorceries exiled with MD at the same time.
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>>52427961
You get a card if someone besides you lost life. That doesn't mean that you can't lose life if he wants the card.

If I exsanguinate for 5, everyone loses 5 life, including you. A player other than you has lost life this turn (nameless opponents) so I draw a card. You losing life doesn't deny the card, you being the ONLY one to does.
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>>52427961
Yes, the other guy already stated using a painland, but talismans or mana confluence works too. That means they lose 1 life and gets to draw a card in end step, if anything, that card punishes you for playing it and helps others more.
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>>52426741

Nah I cut those because I don't like them
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>>52427988
>If I exsanguinate for 5, everyone loses 5 life, including you. A player other than you has lost life this turn (nameless opponents) so I draw a card.
>>52427991

thanks both of you for clearing this up for me, now i gotta look for a new commander
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>>52426678
Time to whip out that acetone
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What are some must-haves for a Rakdos deck?

I'm building Mogis goodstuff right now, and I'm specifically looking for things like Whip of Erebos that give my dudes lifelink, or aggressive cheap creatures that get better with doublestrike. I just want to hit things really really hard, and I don't really like Lord of Riots because 4 people at my flgs play the same carbon-copy deck.
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New EDH player here, just bought the Breya precon. Are there any good replacements I can make with AER/KLD?
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>>52428157
>breya
sigh.
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>>52428135

vial smasher.
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>>52428157
not kaladesh but eldrazi displacer is pretty good with her, you should also put in whir of invention and other artifact tutors and nim death mantle
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>>52426269
Kamahl, fist of krosa and Elesh Norn to machine gun down lands. Crovax, ascendant hero can fill in for Elesh Norn if you can't get one. Saffi Eriksdotter is good as protection and as a combo piece.
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Which 2015-2016 precon should I get with a gift card I've got for sealed products? I already has Ezuri's deck and have a fairly large collection.

I was thinking either Call the Spirits for those sweet enchantments or Open Hostility because Ravos and Tana seem fun. Though I have the right stuff for a good Storm deck with Entropic Uprising.

What do you guys think are the funnest unique commanders from the Precons?
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>>52428332
2015-2016 only? Just get atraxa and sell it for more than MSRP to fund singles.
If you can't get atraxa because of supply issues? Git gud.
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>>52428404
$40 gift card and Atraxa is $60. I'm not shelling out an extra $20 and putting the effort into selling it, I live in a small town and all the people who want it already ordered it.

I can get any of those and he might be able to find me a 2013-2014 if I'm lucky.
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>>52428257
That could work. I'm always a little hesitant to pound in the high cmc cards, but I've recently picked up a pretty exceptional set of mana rocks, and I'm always down for a challenge.

Do you have any experience with vial smasher as a commander? I think it could fit pretty well if I do some sort of loot/reanimate subtheme with my card draw, and I bet wound reflection/dictate of the twin gods would be crazy. How do I not fuck my curve?
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>>52425231
Having fun with the Great Deck Robbery?

>>52425867
Copy the first cast with Reiterate+Turnabout, copy triggers with Mirari, Echo Mage and friends, cast from top with Melek. Lots of ways.
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Is "big spells" Melek fun? Is playing him a good way to get killed first every game?
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>>52428872
If you can generate infinite mana through Reiterate + Turnabout, Reiterate is all you need to make infinite epics
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>>52428157
Padeem, Panharmonicon, Spire of Industry.
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>>52429061
I play Melek as a combo deck, I don't think big mana spells is really a good way to go. A lot of the big splashy spells you would want to play rely heavily on your opponents boardstates or decks to function, like Insurrection or Clone Legion for example. Undercosted bombs like Bribery are great, 7-10 mana sorceries that don't win the game on the spot or draw your entire deck not so much. In my list I'm playing as wincons:
Reset+Reiterate with Foresight tutor
Turnabout+Reiterate
Reset/Turnabout+Dualcaster Mage+Riptide Lab
Capsize
Paradox Engine+Mana Rocks and draw spells

What makes a good spellslinger deck run is fast mana and wheels in my opinion. The faster you can dump your hand the fast you can make the wheel more asymmetrical.
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>>52429188
i'd rather suck a fart out of maro's ass than play an izzet combo deck

i only wish to copy ridiculous spells to make everyone at the table go "aaaaaaaa"
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What neat things can you do with Tolaria West besides snagging mana crypt? Is it even worth running?
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>>52429066
Yeah but you need Turnabout for the infinite mana, that's why I mentioned both.
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>>52429207
Fair enough, it's not for everyone.

If you really wanna cast big splashy spells you'll probably want to play Riku so you're in RUG. That way you can cast your spells in a timely manner with the aid of some green ramp.

>>52429219
Grabs Pacts, other lands of course and the suspend cycle like Living End.
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>>52429238
>other lands of course
Somehow this escaped me. I guess it's going into something esper so I can fish the ol' kromus bell, elesh norn, urborg combo.
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>>52424675
I'm not sure that works, I think food chain can only produce one color of mana of each sack (so four blue, four white, etc). Prossh works because youre sacking a bunch of different creatures, not just one.
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>>52428045
Edric, Isperia and Leovold do a similar kind of "don't touch me REEEEEEEEE" with card draw as the reward/punishment
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trying to build superfriends

will this stop etb's?
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>>52429768
>With Humility on the battlefield no creature will enter with any abilities so it will shut down Enter the battlefield abilities.
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>>52429768
yes
as will torpor orb and hushwing griff
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>>52429061
Melek isn't worth it, he's too expensive and his combos take a lot more work to set up.
Just play Mizzix, you can do similarly ridiculous combos but much faster.
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>>52425231
Do you have a list? This seems super fun. Who's the commander?
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>>52431882
Not the same anon, but I was the anon who mentioned it in the first place.


I use Riku for his copy ability, and more importantly green ramp.

I don't have a list, but its mostly a mixture of wincons (X-burn spells, eternal dominion), copy spells of every flavor, and ramp, loads, and loads of ramp.
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I kind of want to do a fight club deck with this manly motherfucker, anyone know any interesting tech or other neat shenanigans I can do with him?
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The dream is dead boys
There is now damning evidence to mono-colored gods.

Why wizards, why do we need another set of mono colored gods?
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>>52432600
Sundial of the infinite bypasses his ability, I think.
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>>52432639
A lot of the head designers, meaning Maro and his gang, don't get EDH. Maro has said he doesn't understand why people prefer to play it.

They saw the Kaladesh cycle of mono-color legendaries as a big boon to EDH players. They don't get what makes an interesting commander, and they don't understand how constraining mono-color is in EDH.
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>>52432888
Specifically regarding MaRo.

It's less he doesn't understand why people play it, more he doesn't understand/like the political aspect of it.
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>>52432639
Wow Gatorgirl is such a slut, she's casting both with Snekboy AND Kittydude
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>>52432639
Because monocolor > Allied > Enemy.

Last time we got gods we got a whole 15. It would be kind of thematically stupid to lead with one of the multicolor options.

Maybe we'll get an allied set in Hour. It's not like they don't have enough mythology to rip off.
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>>52433432
>10 other egyptian gods
>tfw we might see Kek on a magic card
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>>52432978
It's because it's not "his format" and he doesn't play it. Afterall, most legends are designed with standard in mind and the design space is limited, since it should work in standard environment.
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>>52432639
>Gator is copy-pasted with SLIGHT changes

Bravo.

People would kill to get the chance to get their art featured on magic cards, and this guy is taking shortcuts.
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>>52434260
"Hey look at depala! This one's for YOU, commander players"
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>>52434295
To be fair, she wouldn't be that bad, but the support should have been something better, like soldiers instead of vehicles.
She's just boring as hell. Only interesting Boros commander is Stoutarm anyway, pretty much.
>>
TIME TO PLAY A GAME EDHG

go to magiccards.info, find a legendary creature, select a foreign version of the card, and transliterate the rules text from a foreign language into English.

For example, who is this?

Corpse
Legendary creatures ~ figurines / warriors 5/5, 3UB (5)
The corpse must be thrown into the battlefield and can not be reset in your reset step.
Sacrifice another creature: reset ridicule and place a + 1 / + 1 counter on it.
When the evil laugh attack, destroy the target by the defensive player control of the creatures, and then in the evil smile on a + 1 / + 1 indicator.
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>>52434825


Regal Lion King Kentucky
Traditional Chinese
Legendary creatures - cats / monks 2/4, 1WW (3)
At the beginning of your maintenance, the Regent Lion King Kamba is equipped with a weapon to put a 2/2 white cat creature into the battlefield.
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>>52434825
grimgrin?
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>>52434825
had to look it up grimgrin

>>52434915
Khemba
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>>52434825
>>52434915
Here's an easy one

Yu Lan Xiang Traditional Chinese
Legendary creatures ~ human / monk 3/2, 2U (3)
(Whenever you cast a non - biological spell, this creature gets + 1 / + 1 until the end of the turn.
Whenever you cast a non-biological spell, you can pay {R / W} {R / W}. If you do, the target creature gets a combo effect until the end of the turn.

>>52434918
>>52434937
Correct!
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>>52427866
Yeah lol
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>>52434981
Shu Yun


Crescentness
Legendary creatures ~ Weird 1/3, UU (2)
At the beginning of each player's grasping step, the player takes an extra card.
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>>52434825

The king of riots
Legendary creatures ~ demons 6/6, BBRR (4)
Unless any opponent has lost his life in this turn, you can not cast the riot king of the priest.
Flying, trampling
Your opponent in the turn of each lost 1 life, you cast the biological spell will be reduced by {1} to cast
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>>52435064
Kami of the cresent moon
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>>52435064
Kami of the Crescent Moon
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>>52435064
Kami of the crescent moon


Spacecraft
Legendary creatures ~ human / pirate 1/3, 1R (2)
First attack, deterrence
Whenever the spacecraft thief Carlisle attack, send a legendary 2/1 red, named for the monkey derivative of the Raven, which is tapping and is attacking. At the end of the battle exile the derivative
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>>52435072
Rakdos
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>>52435064
The P/T and mana cost really give them away 2bh
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>>52435114
>Spacecraft
Top kek
It's Khari Zev
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>>52434825


Chinese Luxury lord
Legendary creatures ~ B bitter / Rurocourt 2/3, 2BB (4)
Dead touch
When the luxury lord is raised into the battlefield, look at the four cards on the top of the opponent's cardboard, one of which goes downwards, and places the remaining cards in the order of the card in random order. During the continuation of the card, you can view it, you can cast it, and you can use mana as any kind of mana to pay for it.
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>>52435141
yeah, should just be their abilities. those get translated a bit funnier
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>Spacecraft thief Carlisle

>>52435159
>>52434825

OK, try not pasting cmc and p/t

Here it goes:

The Trauma of the World

Vane trauma Imok can not be counterattack.
When you cast Imo, an extra round after this turn.
Flight, anti - colored spell protection, annihilate 6
When Imo was placed in a graveyard from any area, its owner washed his graveyard into his library
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>>52435205

At the beginning of your end, grab a card. Each player can put a floor card from his hands into the battlefield, and then each opponent does not make a card.
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>>52435205
>annihilator six

Damn those keywords not being translated
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>>52435205

The deeds of the creatures

Islanders, swampers
You can cast a target moment or spell card from the player's graveyard every time you make a combat injury to any player, and do not pay the mana cost. If the card is to be placed in the graveyard this turn, it will be exiled
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>>52432639
Just me or does gator look really smug?
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>>52435254
WE WUZ GAY KANGZ
>>52435317
Wrexial
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>>52435145
Gonti
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>>52435394
Gator and Snake smug brothers
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>>52435317
Jap to haitian creole to afrikaans to English

BEHOLD

"There are plasma functions seem to

mime

Legendary Creature - Boo

At plasma shine go the battlefield, you may exile two creature the cemetery. If you do, it is a single copy of all the cards come into play with an amount equal to the power of the other four + 1 / + 1 counters on additional
"
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>>52435394
She is, Snek is visibly uncomfortable of her smugness
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>>52435564
It's still too fucking easy, that's Meme'o plasm
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>>52429267
You can play Urborg in all decks, but you're right that esper would be better for what you're doing than azorious
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Translation party works better for this, this commander's rule text actually broke the thing so I just took the most interesting one

From the mastermind of masterminds a cursed still at any time as long as it doesn't get the name of the other types of cards, copy the creatures legendary Commander kinship placement, commanding officer of card.

(I censored the commander's name since that didn't get translated)
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>>52435929
Lazav
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>>52435929
wtf are you even saying
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>>52435254
"the beginning of your end" sounds really grim
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>>52434665
I disagree. Depala is very fun to pilot, and while she doesn't really go away from the "turn dudes sideways" ideal that Boros likes, she at least enables you to do it with more than just your creatures.
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