Modern General

Faeries is T1.

>>52384992
When will fat autists stop playing this deck?

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>>52384939
>Playing against grixis shadow
>win g1 with grapeshot because he took himself to 10 life so he could play death shadow
>g2 he has all the gravehate and removal on my enablers. i just grapeshot his shadow and then when he has exiled all my graveyard, cast madcap experiment and get platinum emperion ftw

This is why playing storm is fun

>>52384939
>DO you think that Sultai, Esper and Mardu(lol) will ever be playable color combinations?
Sultai I doubt. Not unless it gets outside the typical Jund/Junk style, because trapped in that vein it's just some janky "tempo" version of the deck.
Esper has potential. Good removal access, best anti-removal, it's just that they don't have a good way to get damage in outside of a combo.
Mardu has the same problems as Esper, and none of the upsides. It's a pile of removal and no beaters.

>cards you wish were more viable or modern playable?
WotC printed one or two decent blue cards in Kaladesh. Take into Custody is the cheapest instant speed version of that effect. If they'd pushed Select for Inspection more, by replacing Scry with card draw, then we might have had something else.
Reflector Mage also could have been pushed more. It would be nice as a 2-drop, either with a worse body or as an Instant. Getting banned in Standard means WotC is afraid of the idea, unfortunately, so we'll have to wait five years for another try.

>>52384939
>DO you think that Sultai, Esper and Mardu(lol) will ever be playable color combinations?
Does R/W burn with a black splash for Bump in the Night count as Mardu?

>>52385183
I think you can splash collective brutality, it's very good in the mirror

>>52385183
No

hope you're playing eidolon now

>>52385156
Storm is for self-congratulatory faggots who think they're hot shit for piloting one of the most "skill intensive" decks in the format when really it is one of the most linear, only being outmatched by Ad Nauseam and Living End

>>52385229
I actually saw his post the other day and decided to start working on a non-retarded version of his list. 4-of Eidolon is obviously a must.
>>52385202
That sounds super spicy. CB is easily my favorite black card in the format. Think it deserves mainboard slots?

>>52385336
>by Ad Nauseum and Burn
Ftfy senpai

>>52385355
I don;t think so, if you're playing the gonti/bump meme list it's really only in the board as tech in the mirror

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Don't normally do the survey, but here we go


>Playing?
Burn.

>Hating?
The influx of other Burn players at the lgs. I have to dedicate 6 sideboard slots to the mirror and it's just annoying.

>Building?
Nothing right now. Thought about Storm before, but now I'm toying with the idea of Soul Sisters. I don't want to be a little bitch, but I kinda want to troll the other Burn players.

>Any cards you think might be sleepers like traverse?
Not that I know of.

>In your opinion what's the most retarded ban WotC could do for the "health" of the format?
Probably LoK or Thoughtsieze.

>DO you think that Sultai, Esper and Mardu(lol) will ever be playable color combinations?
Maybe. I'm hoping Amonkhet can give us some spicy tech, but realistically Modern will probably be dead before BUG can be good.

>What's the worst "Ban X" you've seen?
A Stormfag last Friday got really salty after I won off Eidolon two games in a row. He ranted about how it's such a bullshit card and how it's unhealthy for the format. Eventually he stormed out of the shop.

>>52385336
I admit that i play storm because it causes rages and free wins. but i don't think is skill intensive.

Also i think tron is more linear, faggot

>>52385387
>9 mana
>does nothing
Thanks new world order.

>>52385387
>stormfag gets salty
>he stormed out of the shop
Gettin real tired of your shit carlos

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>>52385387
>Eventually he stormed out of the shop.

can stop laughing

>>52385387
>He ranted about how it's such a bullshit card and how it's unhealthy for the format.
Lol that's what you get for playing a noninteractive deck

Is Chalice needed for Eldrazi Tron? Are there any substitutes?

>>52385486
Yes, the deck does need chalice to lean on because resolving it shuts down so many decks that it would otherwise just lose to. Such as Burn

>>52385486
Trinisphere is the only other option

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>see others crying about blood moon
>tfw I only run basic forest

Loving every laugh.

>>52385336
>Living End
>linear
Only with the nut hands, which can be said about any deck really

>>52385553
But have you considered splashing red for Blood Moon in the side?

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Why is butcher not a good finisher for mardu?

>>52385938
because it gets killed by everything. And you can easily 2 for 1 yourself.

>>52385938
Too many hoops to jump through to make it good

>>52385938
It's not very good. Better off going dark dwellers into bolt or something

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Why can't they print a good Aura?

>>52385418
my nigger

>>52385938
because that "arm" he's holding is anatomically incorrect, disgusting

>>52386020
There are some fantastic auras in modern. in fact, there's a whole deck based around them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW-fdVinUQ0

>>52385938
Delver is pretty bad relative to other modern beaters, but even it has better damage potential than Butcher.
>start swinging T2 for 3
>versus swinging T4 for 5

Gross.

>>52386483
Yea but not every deck is aggro or tempo

>>52386603
I'm not sure what you're implying. You don't mean to use Butcher in a midrange or control deck, do you?

>>52385938
Because none of those abilities say hexproof

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>>52385336
Better not tell this guy about those actual people out there who like aggro decks such as Bogles. He'll be superpissed.

>>52385938
Let's see:
>dramatically above curve: No
>EtB effect for instant value: No
>Method to avoid removal: No
>Janky gimmick for combo: Incredibly unlikely

I don't see the point in running this.

>>52386749
>aggro
>bogles

luh

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Turn 1 Mishra's Bauble crack to look at the top card, Cycle Street Wraith to draw card, Verdant Catacombs Fetch Overgrown Tomb, Thoughtseize take Mox Opal. Pass their upkeep draw off Mishras Bauble. Pass back to me Fetch Blood Crypt, Whispers of Emrakul to hymn them, they discard Arcbound Ravager and Blinkmoth Nexus and scoop.

>>52386860
> Boogles is now a Control-Combo Deck that controls the match with lifegain and forcing the enemy to a state of boredom.

>>52387356
Also in hand I had fatal push and tarfire to remove any creatures he could manage to play next turn

>>52387419
Remember your Deck Trivializing 101: Bogles; like Burn, but dumber.

>>52384939
Why is Gruul Zoo better than Naya Zoo?

>>52387637
Because white is for pussies. Speed is your game, Grulls the name

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Rate my shitbrew.
Been playing it on xmage a fair bit, so fair got a few wins from rage quitters.

I call it...
>no fun allowed

>Instants
Fiery Impulse x 2
Lightning Bolt x 4
Mana Leak x 4
Spell Snare x 3
Terminate x 4

>Lands
Blood Crypt x 1
Bloodstained Mire x 4
Island x 4
Mountain x 3
Polluted Delta x 4
Steam Vents x 1
Swamp x 2
Watery Grave x 2

>Sorceries
Ancestral Visions x 2
Damnation x 2
Detonate x 2
Molten Rain x 4
Rain of Tears x 4
Rift Bolt x 3
Stone Rain x 4

>Creatures
Platinum Angel x 1
Every time I kill a creature, counter a spell or destroy a land, I make sure to say "no fun allowed :^)"


Thoughts? Rate?
Should I build this and rock up to a FNM with it?

>>52387800
kys

>>52387800
What happens if they just counter/fizzle everything and pop you for 2-4 each round, while you're also slowly killing yourself with your mana base.

>>52387800
So this is the power of Grixis Burn.

>>52387842
The same thing that happens to every other deck in the format if they magically happen to have a castable counter every single turn, while still being able to pump out a few creatures.

You lose.

>>52387874
>>52387842
Honestly the best thing about this deck is when your against a T1 Thoughtseize or Inquisition.
They always spend at least a full minute deciding what to discard.

>post on the board for my LGS for things I want to trade for
>people reply
>I message them with everything I own worth over $5 that's used in Modern
>"eh, I dunno. [Insert card here] is something I'm only thinking of trading"

THEN DON'T REPLY, YOU FUCK

Why would someone NOT trade a card they aren't using in any deck for literally anything that they could use?

>>52387877
Kekeroni. You'd probably get rekt by even bogles slow aggro.

>>52387800
Bruh. Where are your dank dwellers?

>>52387800
Roiling terrain seems like it could be neat as a 1 or 2-of for the extra burn. I don't know that platinum angel is the best thing to play here although I get the idea. Just me spitballing but what if you made room for the madcap/emperion combo?

>>52384939
>that image
blue /white is only boring from the outsiders perspective, having 3 oblivion rings in my opening hand and i know its going to be a fun game

>>52388034
I get rekt by every deck, but it's always a sloooooow loss
>>52388100
Didn't even think of them. Might add them as a 2-of?
>>52388105
Not fussed about burning the enemy, but I might mainboard the madcap/emperion combo, never even thought of it.

What kind of deck would Palpatine have?

>>52388423
RGU Dynavolt Tower

>>52384939
>What kind of deck would Palpatine have?

DSJ
Vader would play Jund
Yoda would Junk
Obi-wan is Soul Sisters
Luke is Tron
Han is Naya burn
Leia is twin

>>52388567
Luke is Grixis delver

>>52388602
>Luke is Grixis delver

But anon, have you not watched Star Wars? Luke wins.

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>tfw waifu robots never

>>52388676
This picture triggers my 'tism

If feelsguy is supposed to be committing double suicide out of sadness, how is his right hand on the left side of his body?

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>>52387800
Just played against a WG hatebears deck who thought it was okay to only run 9 lands.


I destroyed them all, then he conceded.

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>>52388363
Obviously noodle arms, pic related.

>>52388423
Had Palp sleeves, can confirm he plays mono-red burn

Lightning coming out his fingertips. ZAP MOTHAFUCKA

>>52385160
Select and Custody are actually really good, they just need a home. Some meme decks with Howling Mine would love the tempo that Custody gives.
There's been a lot of gems lately in terms of pushed, non-typical effects. Overwhelming Denial is a strictlybetter, Kari Zevs is an Act of Treason with upside, Wrangle is a 2cmc variant (I want to see this vs Death's Shadow, you either clear a Goyf and make a huge swing or kill a Shadow)
Invasive Surgery/Whispers of Emrakul/Ishkanah have potential, every planeswalker has been a decent powerlevel, and I think if it gets memed hard enough something like Lord Gonti is powerful enough to see play.

>>52388907
UNLIMITED POWERRRRRR

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nofunallowedanon here
Just won a game beating down with my plat angel.
Deck viability confirmed

>>52389088
who hurt you anon?

>>52387496
XD (You)

>>52389100
my dad
:/

>>52388848
Why are you playing rift bolt?

>>52389144
Because it does 3 damage and thus kills 70% of creatures played in modern.

Honestly, 99% of the time, it's just used late game for 3 mana to wreck whatever one or two mana cost creature they can come up with.

Get occasional salt from 'meta plebs' for using that, as well as fiery impulse.

>>52389168
Thought about some man lands?

>>52389195
When I was first building the deck, yeah.
Don't really offer much advantage. The deck doesn't really need creatures, desu famalam.

>>52388907
There's also Send to Sleep

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>>52387990
>having fun @ LGS
>some new people around
>they ask for trades
>binders appear on tables
>one guy points at my fetches
>in return point at a card I like
>"... no, sorry, that isn't for trade"
>okidokey.jpeg
>point at another one
>"... nah, that one either"
>rest of his stuff sucks
>tell him that i'm sorry
>-he- gets upset -i- wasted his time
>pic related

>another day at the LGS
>younger teenage guys around
>they want to trade
>exchange binders
>they point at my Standard shit
>perfect as it's junk to me
>i pick out a few 2/3 dollar rares
>nice stuff for Commander
>teenagers whip out their phones
>look up every price on every card
>start to haggle over every goddamn penny
>pic related

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>>52389671
>tfw someone actually knows how to use a phone for trading and keeps a running tally of everything on both sides of the trade

It makes exchanging large amounts of low value cards so much more pleasant.
But pennypinchers can piss off regardless

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>>52389746
You have piqued my curiosity, anon. What's your technique? I'm always down for bettering my autism.

>>52389671
I just don't trade with any real frequency anymore. I got rid of anything under $20, which leaves me with nothing more than a deckbox of stuff to trade.

It's not worth your time sitting there and haggling with these fucking people. When all you have is good shit they can only offer good shit; they can't fuck around when your stack is nothing but $20+ dollar bills.

People haven't asked me to trade in months. They know they can't offer shit and it doesn't waste my time or their time. Fucking sharks stay away too because it's very obvious I know how to value my shit.

>>52390098
It's actually nothing special, unfortunately. There was some double calculator app I saw used a few years ago that could keep two separate tallies on the same screen, but now everyone just using MTG familiar or some other app.

>>52390110
The worst people are the ones who want to trade for a staple and whip out a pile of like 30 $2 rares then get pissed off when you tell them no.

I'm not a fucking NPC in an MMO, you can't just offload your trash to me and trade up for my good shit. The fuck am I supposed to do with twenty copies of Rishkar's Expertise?

>>52390213
Oh darn, you got my hopes up.

>>52390217
They're just shit people. These people will gladly trade you a dozen pieces of shit for your good thing. But hilariously enough, they never will accept a dozen pieces of your shit for their good thing.

One time I agreed to a trade with a person online. Then when we met to do the trade at FNM he said the price of his cards went up and he wanted more of my stuff. I told him politely to go fuck himself. He retracted his request for more value and I still said no.

The people who make trades online are just the most useless pieces of shit on the planet. Not just in Magic. You say you're looking for something and some dipshit posts saying they wish they had it but they traded it away a week ago. How the fuck does that help me? Am I supposed to feel bad I didn't put out the ask earlier?

The worst people are the people who say they don't have it but they say they can get it. They go through the effort to try and get the card for you to play the middleman and earn some value in the meanwhile instead of telling you who the fuck actually has the card.

Just don't trade anymore. It does nothing but make you hate everyone a bit more.

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What the hell happened to the price of Soul Sisters? I checked it out awhile ago when I was looking at building some cheap loaner decks and it was only around $130. I looked it up again just now and the deck is $300+.

>>52390374
a bunch of shitty memelords bought the cards so shittier ones can bitch on 4chan about being cheap

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>>52390280
trading is awful. i keep an empty trade binder in my bag to annoy tradefags. sometimes i use basic lands to spell out F U C K Y O U in the pages

XXX X0X XXX X0X X0X XXX X0X
XX0 X0X X00 X00 0X0 X0X X0X
X00 XXX XXX X0X 0X0 XXX XXX

for maximum autism

>>52390374
build green stompy bro its good enough for a cheap loaner

>>52390522
Oh yeah definitely, it's what I eventually did end up building. It's a very solid deck for what it is. I loan it out to a kid at my LGS most FNM's and he always does decently with it.

>>52388423
Palpatine plays Jeskai Nahiri. Lightning Bolts and Emrakul = Death Star.

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>>52390584

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Have some spoilers, modern general.

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>>52390732
And the other one.

>>52390741
>exert

WHAT IS EXERT

>>52390732
Cycling lands when
ASTRAL SLIDE WHEN

>>52390741

The fuck does Exert mean?

>>52390752

I'm guessing it's 'put a -1/-1 counter on this creature to activate this effect.'

>>52390786

Nah, that'd be too powerful. You'd pay 5 to get a 3/3 haste flier that also hit a non-dragon for 4. I'd guess it's more likely to be something simpler like 'pay this card's mana cost.' It makes it unable to be exploited immediately without a ton of mana and makes it repeatable more easily.

>>52390732
>cycling deck

feelsgoodman.jpg

>>52390732
>>52390741
Every time I see spoilers packed in with the promos I feel like Wizards just shits the bed another time. They can't even get their fucking printers to make sure the wrong shit gets packaged right. It tells you that it's very likely that they don't even test the final product themselves to see if there's anything wrong with it. It's probably fully printed and ready to ship by the time the people in the office get it.

And before someone says it, no, they do not spoil this shit on purpose. It's fucking unprofessional and no manager worth their salt would allow pretend leaks to be policy - because then who knows what the fuck gets out without your authorization.

>>52390837
>because then who knows what the fuck gets out without your authorization.
Have you ever considered they could just choose which card gets 'leaked' into the packs instead of putting them in randomly?

>>52390837

You're dumb if you think this information wasn't intentionally distributed. This pamphlet had info on upcoming releases and the promos that'd come with it. Obviously they're not supposed to be released, but since when do game store employees give a fuck? The promos are always the first thing to leak minus the seeded 'accidents' that show up in preceding sets.

is eldrazi tron more cancer than Gx

>>52390837
Well Wizards clearly hasn't noticed that Oracle's Vault and Paradox Engine goes infinite until you hit a land. GB Snek, get it to 3 counters a turn faster, then vomit things down. It can't NOT be a thing in Standard.

>>52391097

It's like turn 6 or 7 at the earliest to get that going if your opponent has zero removal. Pipe dream.

>>52391130

And "get that going" means "cast a couple of random cards from the top of your deck. It's not amazing, unless we figure out some other parts

>>52391097
Why would you play that when you auto lose to the only two decks anyone is currently playing?

>>52391143
Oh fuck you're right.
>Saheeli decks just play Oracle + Engine
>Saheeli -2 copies Engine
>Now this is pod racing

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I own a single foil waifu, and I put her into every "fair" black modern deck.

>>52391502
Sebastian plz go

>>52391502
It is a very nice card, really.
I keep finding space to play her myself. She's often underrated but she can do some serious work.

Her ult is also a legitimate threat. Some decks just can't deal with unlimited zombie spam.

So, BUG decks?

Creature (21)
3x Dark Confidant
1x Fauna Shaman
4x Hunted Horror
2x Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip
1x Lotus Cobra
2x Scavenging Ooze
2x Snapcaster Mage
4x Tarmogoyf
2x Thing in the Ice Flip

Sorcery (4)
4x Thoughtseize

Land (19)
2x Breeding Pool
1x Forest
1x Ghost Quarter
2x Island
4x Misty Rainforest
1x Overgrown Tomb
2x Swamp
4x Verdant Catacombs
2x Watery Grave

Artifact (4)
4x Aether Vial

Instant (12)
2x Abrupt Decay
4x Echoing Truth
4x Remand
2x Vapor Snag

Sideboard (15)
1x Abrupt Decay
4x Countersquall
1x Death's Shadow
2x Inquisition of Kozilek
1x Liliana of the Veil
2x Maelstrom Pulse
2x Melira, Sylvok Outcast
2x Natural State

>>52387800
two inquisition of kozileks

>>52390732
So have you niggers not realised how insane the demon is in Living End yet?

>>52391720
Ever gotten the chance to play with it?

Scavenging Ooze looks tough on the mana.

Goyfs are always nice and it seems one of the assets Sultai should have over other three color control decks.
I am debating whether to buy 4 Tarmogoyf on mtgo, or if even running Goyfs in Sultai is just shitty Vs Jund

I see lots of goodstuff, but no particular synergy. Is Aether Vial really much good?

This color combination is so cool but it seems it is also so, so shit :(

>>52390916

yes

What do if someone asks for a rollback to previous turn on xmage and when you deny it the first time they act all passive agressive?

>>52390916
Gx is what keeps the cancer in check, Anon. Thoughtseize is Moderns Force of Will.

>>52391720
>Aether Vial
What in the FUCK are you doing son?
>Only 4 copies of Inquisition of Thoughtseize
Nigger stop
>Thing in the Ice in a midrange deck that isn't loaded on spells
JUST
>Mainboard Echoing Truth
FUCK
>Remand in a deck full of sorcery speed cards
MY
>Lotus Cobra
SHIT
>Hunted Horror
UP

>>52391749
So you want to kill their board after you killed their board with Living End? I have no clue what you're getting at.

>>52391749
I mean there's situations where it's good but it doesn't really fix living end's largest weaknesses. It's a playable card in living end, but not insane by any means.

>>52391502
may i ask where did you get this high quality scan?

>>52391882
Pretty sure he meant Gx tron not GBx

>>52391898
>>52391923
It gives the deck a better lategame. At the moment if your opponent doesn't die to the first Living End, you generally lose because their graveyard starts filling up and they start getting things back too. But with this demon, you can get rid of their board through a means that isn't a Living End. It's a line the deck doesn't currently have. And it cycles off any colour mana.

So if they reveal a land with cycling, Loam is going to fucking explode.

>>52392011
ASTRAL
SLIDE

>>52392031
They wouldn't. Wizards are too cucked to print powerful things that aren't creatures or planeswalkers these days.

>>52392069
ASTRAL SLIDE on a creature

>>52392088
A 2/3 for 2 in green.

>>52391885
T1 aether vial
T2 Hunted Horror
T3 Hunted Horror/Phantasmal image + echoing truth, 7dmg
T4 swinging 14 with trample; open aether vial, 2-4 mana

I mean just fuck my shit up right

>swapped in the phantasmal for a titi, a snag, and a bob

>>52392109
T1 Goblin Guide
T2 4x Mutagenic Growth, Assault Strobe, swing for 20

See how easy it is to assume things will go your way?

>>52392143
Congratulations, you've discovered magic works on math. Good luck in the future.

Dropped the Cobra for an Infernal Tutor.

>>52391749
I'm really not seeing it senpai. Maybe it'd be okay if it included when you cycle that card, but it doesn't.

>>52392143
>not playing a swiftspear so you can swing for 28
Cuck shit desu. Also back in the day, I used to get turn 2 wins off my swiftspear, it was pretty tit. If they'd fetch and shock, and I was on the play, growth growth battle rage was lethal. I miss those days.

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am i a faglord for just playing max 2 colors?
More seems like a chore and praying for lucky draws

>>52392287
yeah you faggot but not as faggot as 3+ color fags
go mono or go home

>>52392287
Utility lands are undervalued. Being able to run 4 Ghost Quarter isn't exactly nothing.

>>52392305
>go mono or go home
but i like mono too

>>52385336
I'm genuinely ceriois about what a "skill intensive" deck is. I'm mean do most all deck just chose a strategy and move from there? The only "skill" you need is some level of problem solving so you can continue with said strategy.

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>>52384939
What dose /tg/ think about Seismic Swans?
I bought this before price spike and I'm really digging it

>>52392384
It's a trash meme deck tbqh senpai

>>52392384
pretty much same as cheeri0s. Majority of the deck is useless but required to enable the useful parts of the deck. Loses to discard. Fun to go off with but inconsistent. Ultimately neat but not highly competitive. At least swans didn't have a bunch of fags pretending it was tier 1 or anything.

>>52385336
>>52392350
Yeah this shit has been on my mind too.
I've had games against Ad Nauseam where it just feels like I'm playing nothing at all.ned if I'm playing my more fair decks.
Storm I recognize as taking logistical kind of skill where you need to be very well practiced with it to recognize the patterns + paths through which you can go off.

Ad Nauseam and Living End (and Restore Balance, for that matter) just feel like they're going through the motions. Gifts decks too btw - the ones that aim to rez an Elesh Norn or Iona to get the opponent blown the fuck out.

It's literally
>counterspell, if any, turns 1-3
>eot Gifts Ungiven for Unburial Rites and gamelocking fatty
>pat self on the back

Granted that's mostly true vs aggro/burn but against any other opponent it just seems to sideboard in whatever fatties provide the equivalent blowout. Having piloted it myself it just seems like the most boring deck ever.

>>52392384
2 card combo that hopes its opponent has no answer and that it actually hits the pieces it wants to hit.

>>52392350
"Skill intensive" in a game like this boils down to decision trees. Legacy is generally considered the most skill intensive format because cards like Brainstorm and Ponder are not only insanely strong, but are cards that force you to make decisions. What do you put back? What order do you put them in? Do you shuffle off Ponder? Lots of these decisions over the course of a game can separate the men from the boys.

Modern lacks this in almost any capacity. Burn players are a flowchart, Affinity players solitaire their opening hand then turn everything sideways from there, Tron players LOL, Jund is all about just playing whatever your deck spits out. The decisions you make in Modern are mostly at the deckbuilding stage, and even then they're only good or bad decisions in hindsight after you've found out what the metagame was like at the event you went to. I don't think there's a single deck in Modern that I'd personally consider to be "skill intensive" for this reason. There's just no decisions to make, everything rolls off the top of your deck.

>>52392456
The only people who don't think storm is difficult are the faggots that got btfo by some nigger with 2 nut draws going off turn 3. The fact of the matter is, playing storm currently through the ass load of removal and discard in the meta right now is actually pretty challenging. But faggots here will disagree with John Finkel.

>>52392496
If Storm could perform well when competently piloted, competent pilots would be playing the deck and performing well.

>>52392496
Being bad and being hard aren't the same thing.

>>52392474
>Do I shuffle off Ponder?
>Skill intensive
Lel

>>52392515
I'm sure for some decks the decision is easy, like if you're digging for a combo piece, but as a Miracles player I can tell you that sometimes the decision is much harder than most players think it is.

>>52392508
Pretty irrelevant when the best deck in the format right now runs at least 7 discard spells and a 4 turn clock. I don't know if you noticed but since DSJ became a deck all combo decks have been going down outside from Creature Toolboxes

>>52392496
>But faggots here will disagree with John Finkel

YOU again? The assdevastated stormfag?

>>52392550
>Put gifts ungiven into a deck
>Somehow it's now easier to play
Makes me think

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At the risk of sounding like a shill, all this talk about trading makes me want to share my favorite MtG app, MTG Unofficial. I've been using it for a long time and its got a wonderful trade tool (pic related) that pulls all it's pricing from TCGPlayer. It also has a deck builder function that is absolutely wonderful: calculated average CMC and mana curve, checklists the cards for purchasing, even let's you goldfish the deck in app. I highly recommend it.

>>52392564
Maybe if storm had multiple gifts packages worth getting

>>52392578
Ritual
Ritual
Past in Flames
Manamorphose

What do you need multiple packages for?

>>52392589
Idk, maybe for having some skill in deciding which package to gifts for? I get that being a storm player this is pretty foreign to you

>>52392578
It does you autist, the only time where there is a clear package is when you're going off with 3 mana and a reducer

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The memedecks power is going.

Padeem is straight-up a busted vintage card.

Some of the most over powered magic cards ever are being cast, when will it be banned??

>>52392384
poor people meme deck

>>52392714
>an artifact combo deck that isn't affinity

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>>52392858
>affinity
>combo

>>52393279
what kind of deck is affinity then

>>52393360
control

>>52393360
midrange just like tron

>>52393360
>>52393369
No, no. CLEARLY Affinity is a Tempo/Control deck.

>land early threat
>Keep board clear with Galvanic Blast
>Generate card advantage with Thoughtcast

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This card is busted in Eldrazi Tron. Seriously, it's a 4/4 turn 3 and a repeatable shock every turn, it wins games by itself, and on turn 2 it just trades for a mana dork, this card is insane

>>52394072
>on turn 2 it just trades for a mana dork
woah busted a 2 mana removal spell
> it's a 4/4 turn 3
hol up you're telling me there's a card that's good when you assemble tron

>>52390732
I was just hoping for more cyclers since I just bought living end. This is great

>>52394193
Hold up. 6+ mana on turn 3?
HOW HAS THIS NOT BEEN BANNED YET? That's way too powerful for Modern, that's Vintage level power right there. Ban Karn, ban Tron lands, Ban Ancient Stirrings, ban eggs, ban Wurmcoil Engine, ban o- stone!

>>52392384
seeing all this tron shitposting has made me think about this again

seismic swans is another "you don't do anything until turn 3" deck except instead of resolving a game-winning threat you get to resolve seismic assault

>>52393421
No, it's clearly aggro - since it needs to seize momentum to win.

Though I agree with your points.
Really though at a certain point the aggro/midrange/control dynamic can really fall apart and seem pretty bullshit.

Then again it's arguably up to relativity.
For instance, against infect burn can often play like a control deck.

>>52394254
Desu ancient stirrings is a better ponder which is a vintage level card and it needs to be banned.

Ban 8th and 9th too and the we can actually have a good format

>>52394429
Agreed, remove 8th and 9th from vintage

>>52394446
Silly anon I meant modern if losers want to play their epic prison cards they can fuck off to legacy.

>>52394429
Let's just ban everything until we have a format of nothing but grizzly bears. Doesn't that sound fun?

I'm just sick of these fucking Eldrazi cards.
Quit standard after BFZ because fuck Eldrazi, then they had to shoehorn them into Innistrad as well, after they ruined modern, and now we have two strong Eldrazi decks in modern + a viable legacy eldrazi deck.

Just ban Temple, I don't even care anymore.

Eldrazi were a mistake

Where my green/blue niggas at?

>>52385486
I think it's the only reason to play the deck over bant desu.

>>52394579
In the cuck shed where they belong

>>52394585
karn?

>>52394585
Ulamog, Ballista, All is Dust, Karn, Ugin

>>52394624
>ulamog
>ugin
>all is dust
we all know that you'd rather play 20 copies of karn instead

>>52394609
Jerk

>>52394660
;_;

>>52394599
Switch the Mox and 8th edition stuff and it's gold.

>>52394562
Ban Tron, desu

I'm fine with bant eldrazi. It's just tribal eldrazi stuff.

But fuck tron. I'm so fucking sick of everything Tron enables

>>52384939
What is the best core for a Snapcaster-Traverse value train?

Some kind of shitty bug deck or some kind of shitty rug deck?

>>52394562
>viable legacy deck
They memed it so hard for so long, but for real it's just a slightly more aggressive and inexpensive mud, the deck drops in numbers every day that people realize they can stop shitting up legacy and go play Eldrazi in modern again

>>52394770
grixis shadow?

>>52394770
shit i meant dark temur shadow

>>52394770
The core is shitty cards cause that's a huge meme, rug and bug are objectively trash, the modern tri color hierarchy goes

Good tier
>Jund
>Junk
Okay tier
>Bant
>Grixis
>Naya
Meme tier
>Jeskai
Shit tier
>BUG
>RUG
>Esper
Kill yourself tier
>Mardu

>>52394770
>>52394905
do you not say temur and sultai here

>>52394930
You can say temur and sultai if you want, I'll just call you a fag.

>implying rug delver isn't actually quite strong.
Not saying it's the best but I've been trounced totally royally at big events by that deck

>>52395092
>delver
i thought we were talking about modern

>>52394610
>>52394624
Ok fair enough, but chalice really makes the deck competitive and distinct from being half Tron/half Bant.

>>52395131
Har har har

>>52394599
Fucking saved.

>>52394721
I get where you're coming from but it's more authentic this way.

>>52394446
top kek

>>52394429
>>52394530
Y'know, I'm inclined to agree. Prison is dead in current design and R&D seems to wish never to support it again.

>>52394905
muh Sultai is shit tier :(
muh Jund is good
muh Naya and Grixis are okay
muh Jeskai is meme

Welp at least I won't be killing myself.

guys, wizards are printing better cyclers than jungle weaver, what do I do to prevent the rise of Living End?

>>52395372
Join us, friend.

>>52395372
>what do i do to prevent the rise of a graveyard deck

>>52395372
You play a deck that isn't shit. I'll be concerned when they make a 1 mana cycler better than deadshot

>>52395410
>implying grave hate will stop my fatties
You will all bow to your draft common overlords soon enough

>>52395418
Screenshot ;^)
I can't wait

>>52395406
I already have all the pieces from opening a box of alara a while ago, now I just have to dig them out!

And from buying a playset of fulminators at 5$ each before they got big

>>52395430
i'm pretty sure anon knows better than to play a deck that loses to hardcast 5 drop vanillas

>>52394865
No thanks. Jordan has truly gone off the deep end. That deck is terrible

>>52395461
Backed up by 3 mana board wipes that recur said vanillas if the hate wasnt named rest in peace

>>52395475
>if the hate wasnt named rest in peace
Even then, 3-4 beast within help with that

>>52395469
>jordan
literally who
>>52395475
>>52395499
>just destroy their hate cards bro

>>52394930
>using any of the gayass lore names at all

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>>52394579
>>52394609
Seriously why is green/blue so damn shit?

It's holding both Temur and Sultai back from being good.

Fucking wizards makes shit after shit for that color combination - shitty manland, shitty Kioras, shitty meme deck centerpieces bring to light - why is that name on a non-white card btw?, shit everywhere.

It has to be one of the weakest color combinations around in modern. Is there even a decent deck that is just Green+Blue?
Eternal Command is nice but mostly just a 2 card cheese. Meanwhile infect is dead and was always more mono green aggro combo with a blue splash

Hell, the most interesting thing to happen to do with Green+Blue was to get a multicolor card improved by being made monocolor. See pic.
Disallow got mad hype and fetched something like $8-10 preorder just for not forcing people into a shitty color combination.

>>52395550
Well yea, blowing up hate cards is generally a good idea. It's. Not like they are too hard to kill

>>52395585
>Is there even a decent deck that is just Green+Blue?
infect lmao
>>52395600
>just draw all your enchantment removal bro

Having better cyclers in all colors might lead living end to change colors, it's mostly jund but we already see decks with white splashes

>>52394930
Some terms stick, some don't, depends on how popular the combination was when the block that named it came out, and i guess the lore.
Temur was never a great color combination and lorewise it's retarded since it's just gruul savages who have blue for some reason.

>>52395585
why the fuck would you spoiler this
>mono green aggro combo with a blue splash
so in other words green/ blue
>>52395809
> lorewise it's retarded since it's just gruul savages who have blue for some reason.
they have shamans and they're cunning kinda

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>>52394530

>>52395634
You never draw your 4 ofs?
You can stop any time

>>52395854
Not an argument

>>52395847
>they have shamans and they're cunning kinda
Don't need blue for that.

>>52394599
This is fine as long as the next tier is "Ban top in Legacy"

>>52395975
Yea they totally shouldn't have made them a clan because you're autistic.

>>52396010
Yeah, they shouldn't have.

i'm thinking about removing all combat in my "game" and going full walking simulator

what does /agdg/ think of this?

>>52396053
that's fine if you're awful at programming and great at powerpoint.

>>52394538
Kek'd

>>52396111
fuck wrong thread

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>>52395809
Real wedge block when
Real enchantment block when

Wizards didn't intend Theros or Khans blocks as enchantment/wedge themes from initial design. They were mostly incidental.

At the time of Khans release I had a friend who swore by RUG who keenly asked me what name his wedge was given...
...I saw some light die in his eyes when I told him "Temur."

At least I like Sultai just fine.
But we definitely need a real wedge block, none of this single set bullshit we got with Khans that literally gets retconned out of existence by the end of the story.

And with that wedge block, maybe some new names to contend with the existing ones.
Also, perhaps more importantly, more distinct identities than, as you say, Gruul+Blue.

I mean, Maro's Making Magic series explaining the Khans wedges made no fucking sense even he couldn't disguise the shoehorning. "Oh yeah, Abzan is primarily about WHITE. Yeah!..."

What the actual fuck. Pic related I think was everyone's face when they saw those articles.

>>52396201
Dragons ruined everything, Bolas did nothing wrong (on Tarkir)

>>52384939
I haven't played in a long while. What's the symbol in the far bottom-right?

>>52396201
>Pic related I think was everyone's face when they saw those articles.
i didn't see those articles

i did see siege rhino when it was first spoiled and think well that's going to be fucking stupid

and anon was right that day

>>52396444
colorless

>>52396201
btw this is to say Khans block was a let down to the Shards parallel expectations people had regarding wedges. The whole 'paradise for the central color' thing being inverted to 'central color + enemies and managing a harmony for some kind of bizzaro shard.'

Instead we got lopsided focuses, where one color among each allied pair is dragging its ally and an enemy along for the ride.
It'd be like before visiting Alara visiting a plane where the 'shards' are aligned focused around one of the two enemy colors comprising it.
So, for instance, Esper isn't actually about blue as much as it is about White.
Jund isn't about red as much as it is about black.
Naya isn't about green, it's about red.
Bant's central color? Yeah that's blue.

It's a neat idea, sure, and the above examples would actually be neat to see realized.
But visiting a twist on the concept before the main concept itself feels like missing a step.

>>52396328
It really did. If it remained with Khans, we would have seen a lot more wedge support, and the clans could have developed. They were most interesting in Khans block, after all.

>You will never planeswalk to Sultai's jungle palaces and meet a demon cat waifu
Pure grief.

>>52384939
I'm not Chinese

>>52396637
you are chinese below the waist

>>52396637
Sure thing Mao

>>52396675
too hairy for that tbhwyf

could i play faeries in this day and age

>>52396914
http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/faeries/

>>52396914
You can, you'll just get shit on by good decks. Don't let that stop you though.

>>52396914
This question is asked in every modern thread.

The answer is always the same. Fairies is an expensive deck that's not very good, it's the objectively worst combination of factors.

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Newfag here, what are some good red/white decks?

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>>52397442
Burn.

>>52397442
r/w prison

>>52397442
Infect

>>52397442
Allies

>>52397590
>playing allies without harabaz druid and coco
lol

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>>52397637
>playing allies

>>52397679
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/591414#online

top 8 at states

>>52397442
Sun and Moon

>>52397702
it's called r/w prison

even todd stevens calls it r/w prison now
http://www.starcitygames.com/article/34775_Uncovering-More-Modern-Treasure.html

>>52397766
Sun and moon sounds better though.
And there is a precedent in blue moon.

>>52398036
>Sun and moon sounds better though.
wrong
>And there is a precedent in blue moon.
the moon part is fine, the sun part is retarded

white moon or r/w superfriends would make more sense

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What do inkmoths taste like?

>>52398198
While this is cool, I'm a bit disappointed the art isn't on some other card that has a life payment.

Because sticking yourself with a bunch of syringes would fucking hurt.

>>52398221
I thought the syringes were extracting serum rather than injecting
Then again i have no idea what an inkmoth looks like, i assumed that was one.

>>52395585
>Seriously why is green/blue so damn shit?
Not enough reactive card advantage or good parity spells at 1-2 mana in either color.

See, something has to fucking die T1 or T2 and U/G just simply can't do that. It can't counter hard enough nor can it shoot something that has resolved. If you were allowed to Preordain on T1, you're probably still going to get fucked. A card like Coiling Oracle just isn't a good enough body anymore. Make it a 2/1 and we can talk. Mystic Snake isn't a good enough body and arguably it wouldn't even see play anymore even if you made it a 3/2 or 2/3 or 3/3 with Snapcaster existing.

You will always be able to cobble together a functional deck using any of the other three colors because they have the best reactionary cards in the format: Hand hate, spot removal, burn. U/G as far as staples goes has Snapcaster, Goyf, and Scavenging Ooze - that list is almost comprehensive. RUG, BUG, Bant, you know the least important colors in those decks are the UG.

>>52398221
jin aint no bitch nigga

What happens if I send in a fake card to PSA or BGS? Will I get it back?

>>52398386
Why would you do that? Literally zero reason to do it; they won't waste the shipping on you. The shipping alone is worth more than your card.

>>52397442
Kithkin tribal

>>52391925
Not-that-guy-but

http://www.slightlymagic.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=12336&start=630

>>52398939
Jesus Christ, can we not post this shit publically? I don't want fucking Wizards to shut these people down.

Fucking delete this shit man.

>>52399006
It isn't exactly obscure. I found it by googling.

>>52399038
You can't google what you don't know exists.

Fine whatever. Shit goes down all the time and I can't help but feel it's because people share shit in public places.

>>52399108
Kys you tinfoil hat retard

>>52399006
>mplying Wizards post on anonymous imageboards

>>52398266
Nah nigga you inject that shit to trip out and gain arcane knowledge. The visions are serum induced

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>>52400094
I hate needles, why can't i get some orally ingested cantrips?

>>52400308
Are you 5?

>>52400377
Thanks for ruining my joke senpai

>>52400469
>joke

>>52396914

It's surprisingly one of the decks that can handle the Infect matchup quite easily.

>>52400758
>Infect
Which deck is this?

>>52400758
Faeries can handle Infect, but another tribe already handled them.

WIZARDS

>>52400853
Kek

>>52400853

lol, 10/10. You got me with that anon.

>>52400828

Yeah yeah I know Infect is on the decline since the G Probe but mark my words it will come back because Infect was Ad Nauseam's worst matchup and if there's a decline in Infect you're going to see an increase in AN decks being played which in turn will end up bringing back Infect a bit or even Storm to fight against AN decks. Mark my words DSJ will not be a top tier deck for long, every deck in Modern that has been top tier in the history of Modern cycles in and out of its placing. (e.g Burn, Jund, Tron specifically during Eldrazi Winter.)

For the most part though the Modern metagame is really slow to change and adapt unless something is absolutely broken (e.g again Eldrazi Winter)

>tfw no modern playable dragons

what would it look like?

>2RR
>3/3
>Haste
>When x etbs it deals 2 damage to target creature or player

>>52401024
just play skred and play your stormbreaths

>>52401024
That's fucking trash senpai

>>52401024

Stormbreath Dragon was on the odd situation playable in past metagames in particular decks.

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Is there any actual reason to play Tezzerator in modern? I really like the idea and it seems great, but really is there anything it does better than other decks? Fuck I really did believe Whir of Invention was going to make it viable

>>52401526
Ponza will forever run a singleton Stormbreath since 1) it can be coughed up through Primal Command, and 2) when they can't cast their hand, the monstrous hits super hard.

>>52401584
The problem is Wizards are a bunch of cucks who didn't let artifacts tap for coloured mana. And getting coloured mana in a deck full of artifacts in Modern is a little tricky.

>>52401690

Does Ponza really run a few copies of Stormbreath? I thought it was just Skred that would run it now and then.

>>52401757
It runs one. Some decks just can't answer it. Take Abzan for example. It doesn't die to 1) Fatal Push, 2) Abrupt Decay, or 3) Path to Exile. They can't even chump with Lingering Souls. Ponza gets more milage out of it than most due to the nature of the deck.

>>52401790

Actually that makes complete valid sense. Who know that Protection from White clause would be so relevant.

>>52401714
I really don't think that's the problem desu

>>52401584
I think Tezzerator works well with Theraben Inspector and a crew of smuggler copters and other vehicles

>>52402153
Nigga what

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>>52401024

It's unplayable. I can crush people at the kitchen table with pic related, but as long as it dies to bolt it's going to be hard to keep it alive enough to have an impact

there are exceptions, of course.

I mean, if wotc wanted we could potentially have dragons as a tribe with enough cost reduction and enablers, and it still wouldn't be past mid-low tier

>>52402250
>as long as it dies to bolt

Even if it had 4 toughness it would die to push

>>52402153
>thraben inspector
>smug copter
Hey buddy, you got the wrong thread, standard thread is two blocks down

>>52402374

I always forget push exists

I could add path to the list but almost everything dies to path so

>>52401584
Thoptersword is fun, that's literally the only reason. Can do some serious work in the right matchup. Currently Tezz is brewtier, but it's viable enough I think.

Tezz the Memer is also a really underrated card.
I could post my memelist but it doesn't have the Whir/Prism package

>>52401024
The new dragon that got spoiled LITERALLY does everything you want.
>>52390741

>>52387800
>play an indestructible 1-1
>proceed to give you the dick for 20 turns until you lose

>>52402386
>Inspector creates 0/0 clue token
>Tezz can make it 5/5 in a pinch
>Smug Spector is still a decent clock
I'm sure there are other things to build around it

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Anyone else has tried pic on storm sideboard?

>>52402968
Best used in R/G ponza

>>52402968
It's okay. I don't think it's worth burning a minimum of 5 side board slots for it desu, just chalk burn up as either I got really lucky and won or I lost

>>52403023
The thing is it dodges almost all the storm hate. If you win g1 and know that you will be hated a lot, this can steal g2 . But how are you using it? I tried 3 madcap and 1 Platinum emperion but I know if I draw him, then I won't have a way to return him to the deck

>>52402968
I'm setting up my storm deck this week so i'd like to know too.

But i get the impression that between blood moons, lightning bolts, and tools to tutor with merchant scroll, there's no space

>>52392565
dont have any apple equivalents do ya?

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Why don't you play Jank?
I thought you were good at MTG

>>52403413
>apple
Lmao

>>52403436
Because that deck is boring. If you're gonna play jank at least have fun

>>52392565
MTG Familiar is better

>>52390766
>>52390752
It doesn't untap at the beginning of next turn is what Exert means.

>>52403393
I don't run merchant scroll, I run blood moon, shattering spree and the rest fuse card, what i don't know is what else to put for burn match up

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>khans fetches

>>52403662
Onslaught are is shit bro
>muh rob alexander

>>52403439
yea i know, but seriously ive been looking for an app like this since i got this dumb thing

>>52403689
Lmao what a tasteless faggot, how do I just know you eat McDonald's at least twice a week and tell everyone about how great their dollar coffee is

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>>52403662
>fetches

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post yfw Wizards fucks up and reprints Astral Slide in Amonkhet

>>52403804
"""""""fucks up"""""""

>>52403824
Shit, they missed the CopyCat combo in fucking Standard, they might miss this

>>52403720
Woah, you might wanna slow down on the projecting bud

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>>52394538
Actually, kind of. Always liked grizzly bears.

>>52404244
>2 grizzly bears can't even kill 5 little girls
Makes me think

>>52404473
>>52404473
>>52404473
>>52404473

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/tg/ how is this for babbys first storm list. Seems like the highest tier budget option as well, deck is very inexpensive.

18 lands (shitter lands like shivan etc)
8 dudes
8 rituals
4 manamorph
8 cantrips
2 past in flames
4 gifts
2 scroll
1 peer thru depths
1 grape
1 empty
2 remand

Theres a free slot, thinking about simian, increasing vengeance or echoing truth, I don't mind echoing in the sideboard though.

Halp stormbroz

>>52404516
Go to the new thread

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>>52402968
What's the Storm appeal for it?

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>>52404259
Step your game up.

>>52405353
>"Holy shit"

fucken lost it