/5eg/ Fifth Edition General:

>>52382683
Obviously more wizard shit. Because they always need more shit.

More wizards, because *Enter spurdo wizard of the coast, not martials who can boast meme*

Question for you all.

A bunch of my coworkers want to get me to start playing D&D. Is it anywhere against the rules to make two character sheets? one fake one that I show to the party and a real one I show to the DM?

>>52382766
Why would you do it, anon?

Why do people always talk shit about caster supremacy?

It just makes sense. No shit, someone who can shoot fireballs, animate dead or create pocket dimensions with nothing but a spool of rope and some words is going to be a great deal stronger than someone who's best abilities without magic are basically "Can attack fast, parry and trip people."

The only way to beat caster superiority is to make it so they have absolutely no close range spells, or make martials have more long range killers. But then you just get to bringing rapid firing crossbows, which leads to muskets and guns, and then people complain about something else.

>>52382720
>Spurdo Sparde
>tfw it's 2009 again

>>52382766
No, but what terrible secret do you have to hide?

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>>52382785
Stale.

>>52382766
Ask your DM.

But seriously, why would you do that? D&D is a game about teamwork. If you're there just to back stab the party, go play video games instead.

>>52382766
No, but it could be some bullshit depending on what it is you're hiding.

Storytime.

>>52382766
As long as your DM has seen the real one, sure. But why would you want to do that?

>>52382766
Don't be That Guy, anon. Everyone hates That Guy.

>>52382766
Perfectly fine as long as the DM allows it. I'd probably try to get a better grasp of the rules before you start betraying the party or anything though.

>>52382777
>>52382799
Well, I really don't have time to play alot and I was thinking if I made my character a double agent of sorts it would give more of an actual role playing component to only be able to show up every other week.

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>>52382785
I was riding down a mountain on my Bigby's Hand and the BM Fighter was just running and falling, lol
Why is being a wizard so sweet, lads?

>>52382858
I don't know because obviously being a Druid is the sweetest

>>52382766
technically nothing wrong with it, but you might want to get a feel for the players before actively fucking them. It's called courtesy.

>>52382839
That would just be a matter of only passing your backstory to the DM and introducing your character in a different way in game.

Unless you want to lie about your abilities too?

>>52382879
>>52382834
I mean, I wouldn't be actively trying to fuck them every step of the way. That being said if it's that highly frowned upon I'll avoid it.

(Repost from last thread)
I cast call lightning and hit nearly the whole party. How have you fucked up in the past /5eg/?

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>>52382875
it's ok
if you're GHEEEEY!

(Posted in the last thread when I didn't notice there was a new one)

I want to run the Forge of Fury from the new book but my big thought is what are they going to do with all that gold afterwords. I counted it up and if you gather all the coins and gemstones you end up with the equivalent of 8600 gold pieces, and somewhere you get 8 platinum pieces as well. Not to mention there are a couple +1 weapons, spell scrolls and a magic trinket or two.

Is there a nice list of pricing for things like furniture or art or extravagant weapons/armor that my players can splurge on with their dungeon spoils? I've noticed I'm pretty bad at pricing things whenever a PC goes to a merchant stall and asks for something unexpected.

>>52382904
excuse me but my ability to turn into a GIANT FUCKING APE (at level 14) begs to differ

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>>52382896
I found a bunch of Zhentarim warlocks about to use a pact blade to sacrifice a street urchin, just for fun. I threw a 5th level fireball and burned them all to hell, even the urchin.

Oh wait no I didn't, I sculpted the spell around the urchin and saved him while still killing the warlocks. Oh yea haha I rule. Sorry about your fuckup, you might want to try understanding magic first, lmao

Peace

>gets carried away by a giant glowing hand

>>52382896
can't fuck up if you don't play 5e *taps temple*

>>52382890
it is fine IF the other players are fine with it, there's no reason to HIDE your character from the other players. Just say, hey guys, i'm playing a ______ disguised as a ______, players who are going to use OOC knowledge are going to do so no matter what you do.

and it's especially tacky to do the whole betrayal thing with a new group. Your first impression to them might not want to be "Team Killing Fucktard #3"

>>52382962
Why are you in /5eg/ than

How would you Dervish in 5e?

>>52382979
he must have got lost on his way to the pfg thread.

>>52382945
Oh hey, cool. Can an ape escape from a Forcecage? Lol didn't think so. I'll leave some bananas behind when I Plane Shift tho. Good talk.

>>52382975
>Your first impression to them might not want to be "Team Killing Fucktard #3"
Well, I've been playing MTG with 4 of the 5 people in the group, not including the DM. They already know me as that fuckwad who nukes the board every 3 seconds

>>52382998
At least I'm not gay in that force cage

>>52382839
Don't do it.

>>52383008
yeah but a 20min game of magic and a 20 month game of DnD have different standards

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>>52382979
playing bard

>>52383017
I might just put the forcecage around your apenuts lol. Sorry ape but your nuts are trapped inside an unbreakable box. It's cool tho, I think I'm gonna take off. Head to Silverymoon. Instantly. It'll wear off in an hour. Hope your nuts survive lol.

>>52383071
>>52383017
You kids know you have to be at least 18 to use this website, right?

>>52383071
congratulations, dumbass, you just wasted a spell
>Creatures only partially within the area, or those too large to fit inside the area, are pushed away from the center of the area until they are completely outside the area.

So, I just did 54 damage in a single attack at level 3 today with the new pseudo-smite invocations that warlock got.

Am I the only one disliking the way smite works in 5e?
It feels like such a cheap one-trick pony type of cheese. Just fishing for crits and instantly annihilating something.

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Nigga maybe your ass ought to shapeshift into a "Magic For Dummies" book, then you could read yourself and get a frickin' clue. Because Forcecage or Cuckcage as I call it will utterly fucking undo you. Lucky I'm in a good mood or I'd frickin' bury you, and you can take that the frickin' bank, buster.

>>52383097
Why do people keep saying that to me

So how is TftYP?

One of my friends got the roll20 version. I'm pretty much always the DM, so I'm pretty happy that I get to be a player for it.

>>52383103
"giant" apes aren't that big. I'd be fine.

>>52383110
If people keep saying that maybe you should rethink how you talk to people on this site.

>>52383125
They are in the huge size category

>>52383125
>I might just put the forcecage around your apenuts lol.
>Creatures only partially within the area, or those too large to fit inside the area, are pushed away from the center of the area until they are completely outside the area.
is it hard being this retarded?

I've just gave Yawning Portal a quick read, and... Was Tomb of Horrors always that small?

>>52383145
My character would know that even if I don't. So I guess ETHEREALNESS then just walk away while you stand around looking retarded? I mean the options are limitless!

Also the Giant Ape I see in 3e lists a height of 18 feet, so he'd fit in the cube. Sorry BRO

>>52383182
>3e size
>5e thread

Sorry bro you still seem rather retarded

>>52383199
Does 5e list an actual numerical height?

I'm thinking about doing Curse of Strahd but only adding a great deal of CR 10 enemies in it.

I'm thinking maybe an Aboleth at the bottom of lake Zarovich, and Archdruid in Yester Hill

Then if they get Mordenkeinen to help, these two can duke it out in Castle Ravenloft

>>52383182
>>52383110
>3e
Had a feeling you were shitposting. Thanks for tipping your hand.

>>52383182
>Also the Giant Ape I see in 3e
Are you lost, little boy?

>>52382785
Because it's not that fun when the wizard can blast through any encounter and then convince the orc he lit on fire that they were good friends, all the while opening a portal with his other hand. While martials can stab stuff twice a turn. Defeats the teamwork aspect when one person can just do everything and the other is painfully weaker.

>>52383207
>>52383214
>>52383216
???

>>52383231
this is the 5e thread

I'm trying to get back to watching Anne of Green Gables so someone should answer, does the 5e Giant Ape entry list an actual numerical height? I... don't think so Tim!

>>52383231
Are you literally retarded, or just very good at pretending to be one? Whichever the case, you're becoming less welcome in this thread with each post you make.

>>52383253
No it doesn't, now fuck off.

>>52383220
Then don't play a martial. There's no reason to other than fluff, after all. Unless you're actively gimping your character on purpose, at least play a Cleric or Paladin.

>>52383211
>Archdruid in Yester Hill
That encounter is already difficult.

>>52383253
It doesn't. The basic height of a Huge creature as listed in the DM is around 20 feet, so it's up to the DM as to whether the 20 foot force cage can actually hold it.

>>52383279

Yeah, but they can kill the archdruid by choping down the Gulthias tree which is significantly easier

>>52383271
>No it doesn't, now fuck off.
>>52383300
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0pYjjlQeF8O

>>52383300
Storm Giants are huge and are 26 feet

>>52383312

A gulthias tree comes stated in TOYP and its pretty easy to kill in a couple of turns

This way I can give the druids faction a face that they have to roleplay against

>>52383111
I'm going to be DMing it starting this Wednesday and from what I have read it sounds like a blast. Bloody challenging as hell but very fun none the less.

>>52383321
Fuck off with your fun I don't like it when wizards are fucking faggots who cast forcecage

>>52383312
Do you plan on giving them this information, or are they supposed to chop down the tree mid-combat for no good reason?

>>52383352
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s0pYjjlQeF8O
>>>
> Anonymous 03/26/17(Sun)17:46:04 No.52383327 ▶
>>>52383300
>Storm Giants are huge and are 26 feet
>>>
> Anonymous 03/26/17(Sun)17:46:35 No.52383339 ▶
>>>52383312
>A gulthias tree comes stated in TOYP and its pretty easy to kill in a couple of turns
>This way I can give the druids faction a face that they have to roleplay against
>>>
> Anonymous 03/26/17(Sun)17:48:12 No.52383351 ▶
>>>52383111
>I'm going to be DMing it starting this Wednesday and from what I have read it sounds like a blast. Bloody challenging as hell but very fun none the less.
>>>
> Anonymous 03/26/17(Sun)17:48:12 No.52383352 ▶
>>>52383321 (You)
>Fuck off with your fun I don't like it when wizards are fucking faggots who cast forcecage
leeeeeeeeeeel

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Does anyone in here actually play in the Adventure League? And if you do, what is it like? I only have one group of players, and I'm trying to make more, but it's going to be a few months until that really takes off. Is there anyone who can vouch for the AL being fun or not?

>>52383339
The Gulthias tree in Curse of Strahd is significantly bigger, as it's been growing for centuries with evil druids tending it. The one in TYP is a relative sapling, only being tended by one druid for a short time.

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>>52383327
I dunno man, shit's weird. 20 is likely the shortest possible height I suppose.

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>>52383327
your mom is huge
how tall is she

>>52383366
Wow it really is your first time on 4chan isn't it.

>>52383374
AL is literally the opposite of fun. It's not a place you play at it willingly, but out of desperation.

>>52383396
chief guh is only huge!

>>52383385
Maybe he's an manlet ape with like some Mexican blood or something, looool

>>52383374
I find it fun. In my are its a group of really cool dudes who clearly know d&d and meet up at game stores twice a week

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>>52382785
Bait or not, i'm posting it anyways.

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>>52383352
>Fuck off with your fun I don't like it when wizards are fucking faggots who cast forcecage

>>52383321
1. Druids are good because its a good healer, and shape shifting is fucking dope m8.
2. (Shill-lay-lee)
3. Dragon sorcerer is meh
4. Wizards are glass cannons
5. Meh, its kinda funny for a bit
6. You're talkin bout 3e in a 5e thread
7. You sound mad yourself
8. You didn't really own anyone
9. Wizards are gay
10. Wizards are super gay
11. Thats not how forcecage works still
and >>52383278
12. "This class is over powered and throws the balance of the game off" "Lol then why play something weaker?"

>>52383458
Hi

>>52383361

I plan on making the Gulthias tree with a Gulthias-Tree-B-Gone Axe sticking out rather obvious
If not, then Wintersplinter kills the Archdruid in its rampage

>>52383379
I'd have to think about it some more I guess

I just really like the idea of this League of Evil that shows up for Strahd's dinner, that works somewhat like a Half-Life intro tour of all the big fuckers they need to look out.

Madam Eva, The Abbot, the Arch Druid, Lady Wachter, Morganfa, the Werewolf Alfa, Rahadin and so on.

>>52383470
sup dood.

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>>52383458
>Druids are good because its a good healer, and shape shifting is fucking dope m8
Form Of... A Sheep!

>>52383374
I've been playing AL for almost 2 years now. Overall it's a great community as far as I can tell. I've heard some bad stories of it both locally and on the 5e threads but personally I have had fun both playing and DMing in that community.

>>52383351
From what I've read so far its mostly dungeon crawling right?

How much are you outside of dungeons compared to the other released modules so far? More dungeon crawling than even PotA?

>>52383499
Or, get this, form of mammoth, Allosaurus, pteranadon. Plus, if you need to sneak into a forest without being seen, who is gonna suspect a random crow?

>>52383503

AL is awful but at the same time, awfully necessary for idiot DM's who can be trusted with the freedom of a home game

>>52383505
It is a book consisting of literally only dungeons.

>>52383441
>After that he fired an arrow at the sky, who started to cry.

God I love Hinduism.

>>52383514
And with animal shapes you can turn your whole party and no one suspect the flock of crows

>>52383514
id just forcecage every crow

>>52383321
Look man, I don't know how else to tell you this, but you're either shitposting and doing a pretty good job of it, or genuinely retarded. The stats and descriptions of creatures as they existed in previous editions have no bearing on how they exist in 5e. 18 feet is smaller than would exist in the size boundaries for the Huge size category in this edition.

Backing up to before this, your sense of humor is juvenile. "Angry ape with his nuts in a force cage" isn't funny to well-adjusted people over the age of 12. That, along with your particular choice of wording your distaste for the Druid class is why you're being mocked for being "a kid."

>>52383533
But how do you know that it's crows. And a Druid pops out of the ant at your foot

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>>52383533
>>52383499
im dubbin out
wizard supremacy

>>52383520
Oh ok. I thought that it was small adventures with lots of dungeons, instead of pretty much only dungeons.

>>52383533
Then you run outa spell slots, and the druid could then turn into something larger then the cube and be shoved out.

>>52383558
>breach of The Masquerade.jpg

>>52383553
druids can't become tiny ants

>>52383406
I disagree with the setiment that it's not fun. It may be a bit restrictive but both I about the organized play itself struck me as boring or dull, but i will agree that even I joined it in it because I had no one dependable to play D&D with locally before joining it.

>>52383558
>Plane shifting because he was about to get raped

>>52383582
he can only shift twice w/o a nap

>>52383584
I don't see why not
>52383602

>>52383604
Not if you're level 20. But what's stopping me from taking a nap

>>52383584
They can. Ants are beasts.

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>>52383583

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Which core potions are the best for a general dungeon delve?
>inb4 healing potions

Any good third-party or homebrew potions?

What are the funnest potions?

I am building a potion shop for the PCs.

>>52383631
Then I'd just step on all ants. Or forcecage them all.

>>52383640
Requires a bit of revamping as its for 3.5, but not alot and its really fun https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Grog_of_Substantial_Whimsy_(3.5e_Equipment)

>>52383650
"But how do you know it's ants" says a Druid burrowing out of the ground as a worm

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>>52383584
what now atheist

>>52383650
Stop trying to force this meme.

>>52383659
>dandwiki
Please do the world a favor and die in a fire.

>>52383650
Yah never know if theres an ant under a leaf till you see the ant castin spells

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>>52383640
there is only one true answer

>>52383505
The book itself if only dungeon crawls, but a clever DM could easily add in role-playing between dungeons and inside them. Personally, I'm gonna run the whole book and turn it into a full campaign.

>>52383668
I mean, they could become aunts I guess

>>52383691
humanoids arent beasts

>>52383674
>till you see the ant castin spells
>get call lightning'd by a tiny any
>sit up all singed
>WHAT THE HELL JUST HAPPENED

>>52383627
>what's stopping me from taking a nap
Presumably the druid that you seem to be in a duel with.

>>52383706
>implying the ant didn't cast control weather first to hide his intentions

>>52383703
what if they are the ant's aunt?

>>52383703
WRONG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6nekgzaa5I

>>52383690
I guess (or hope) that my DM will do this. We will play the whole thing as one adventure so he has to tie it together somehow.

>>52383668
>>52383584

Well you can just be a spider.

>>52383717
No I am the Druid

>>52383726
Because aunts don't really have aunts last I checked there was only one queen and she didn't have a sister

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>>52383722
damn, i might have been wrong about the druids...

>>52383602
>>52383650
Bitch you can only Forcecage once a day. Unless you're level 20 in which case presumably so is the Druid, who can change shape as much as he wants.

You're so fresh out your mom's cunt you're still paying off the lease.

>>52383726
Then I'd be a monkey's uncle.

>>52383728
>citing Mickey Mouse and not the 5e phb

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>>52383764

What in the everliving fuck is happening here.

>>52383809
Some wizard picked a fight with a druid

>>52383809
just another thread ruined by shitposters, we'll have a new thread soon enough, just wait it out.

>>52383809
Shitposting. Uninhibited shitposting.

Is it possible to save this thread /5eg/

Rolled 372 (1d1000)

might was well try it out.

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>>52383846
>>52383845
>>52383838
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUhVCoTsBaM

>>52383857
no, just wait for it to die.

>>52383857
If we get out red neck wizard

>>52383861
>Whenever the PC enters a building, gravity immediately reverses orientation for them.

Sounds like fun for a dungeon delve.

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>>52383866

>>52383366
What did he mean by this ?

>>52383878
Can we prove he is underage?

>>52383868
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjLpVUnUTGU

>>52383883
It's literally just YouTube

>>52383891
I'll translate:

In 1884, meridian time personnel met
in Washington to change Earth time.
First words said was that only 1 day
could be used on Earth to not change
the 1 day bible. So they applied the 1
day and ignored the other 3 days.
The bible time was wrong then and it
proved wrong today. This a major lie
has so much evil feed from it's wrong.
No man on Earth has no belly-button,
it proves every believer on Earth a liar.

Children will be blessed for
Killing Of Educated Adults
Who Ignore 4 Simultaneous
Days Same Earth Rotation.
Practicing Evil ONEness -
Upon Earth Of Quadrants.
Evil Adult Crime VS Youth.
Supports Lie Of Integration.
1 Educated Are Most Dumb.
Not 1 Human Except Dead 1.
Man Is Paired, 2 Half 4 Self.
1 of God Is Only 1/4 Of God.
Bible A Lie & Word Is Lies.
Navel Connects 4 Corner 4s.
God Is Born Of A Mother –
She Left Belly B. Signature.
Every Priest Has Ma Sign
But Lies To Honor Queers.
Belly B. Proves 4 Corners.

Your dirty lying teachers
use only the midnight to
midnight 1 day (ignoring
3 other days) Time to not
foul (already wrong) bible
time. Lie that corrupts earth
you educated stupid fools.

GoBelly-Button Logic Works.

>>52383895
No clue. Since he isn't a druid and immune to magical aging, we can just reverse age him.

>>52383903
see
>>52383883

>>52383912
have you paid attention to this thread? Why would I follow a youtube link coming from THIS pile of shit?

>>52383961
>have you paid attention to this thread? Why would I follow a youtube link coming from THIS pile of shit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoGbBRgtmTg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VdcMWWh3s0

>>52383961
You never know. It could be sanity hiding among the insane

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>>52383920

>>52383995
it's not worth it, anon. It's just not worth it.

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>>52383857
probably not but let's try

What would want in a Tales from the Yawning Portal II?

Expedition to Barrier Peaks?
In Search of the Unknown?
Temple of Elemental Evil?
Isle of Dread?
Sinister Secret of Salt Marsh?
The Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth?
Against the Drow?

When are we expecting the next UA?

>>52384040
Tomorrow I think

>>52384034
Keep on the Borderlands would be great.

Also, I've always wanted a 5e conversion of that adventure in the BD&D PHB. Forgot the name...

>>52384040
monday, or whenever the hell they feel like it.

>>52384061
they did one for the playtest under the name Caves of Chaos

White Plume Mountain is _fun_. How would you design a similar dungeon? If the concept is, "Created by an insane wizard".

>>52384034
All of those would be solid picks. I don't know anything about In search of the Unknown, though.

>>52384075
>Force box around a giant ape's nuts

That sounds good let's put that in there

>>52384034
Descent into the Depths of the Earth
Shrine of the Kuo Toa
Vault of the Drow
The Night Below

Just an entire book on the underdark.

THERE'S SOMETHING SHINY IN THE YARD

>>52384105
is this the birth of a new meme fellow kids?

>>52384034
Wasn't ToEE already made into a 5e adventure? Princes of the Apocalypse?

>>52384105
>Jack Black: The only way to get past that ape and get the Golem's Heart is to dispell that box. And let me warn you, he's gonna be pissed...
>rest of party groans

>>52384151
You Can't force a meme

>>52384110
"Tales from the Underdark"

>>52384152
They're thematically similar but outside of that are completely different. Red Larch is no Homlet.

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>>52384152
sameish name but I'm talking the old Gygax module

with Village of Hommlet

>>52384168
or forcecage it

>>52384172
The underdark is in the yawning portal's basement

>>52384152
As >>52384174 says, they're different. It's like how the Storm King's Thunder didn't stop them putting out Against the Giants.

What would be a good reason to leave your village after you just saved that village from a monster or something (such as the folk hero background).

Seems to me like they'd want you to stay around.

>>52384151
No meme has ever survived this phrase.

>>52384193
you were cursed by the monster and have to go find a cure

>>52384193
track down the source of monsters

>>52384193
Because there are bigger villages to save from bigger monsters

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Has anyone run Rise of the Runelords yet? How did it go?

>>52384193
well theres the dark secret, or you could be "Hey, I could do this at other towns where they need me"

>>52384193
A realization that you're meant for better things?

New found fame goes to your head, and you bed the mayor's virgin daughter?

>>52384193
you want to kill more monsters
wanderlust

>>52384224
Are they a bard folk hero?

>>52384193
vision from ur god

>>52384204
Hmm. I could see a lot of potential with this one.
If the DM is willing to participate a little bit, could definitely be a good way to connect yourself to the grand story.
Turns out your one act actually majorly thwarted the big bads plans in a way he didn't expect.

>>52384236
Are bards the only creatures capable of sex in D&D?

Actually that might make for some interesting lore. Bards are rare because most towns keep theirs captive so that the population doesn't tank...

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>>52384182
Nah, that's Undermountain. That's just a huge dungeon.

>>52384267
That's just confusing

>>52384193
Folk heroes almost always received invitations from larger settlements to help them solve their problems until they reach the capital, then retire and become a monk or something.

>>52384266
>interesting lore
>that
you're the type of person I avoid having at my table.

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>>52384195
All according to Kenku

>>52382683
OP, why are you using a picture of a Pathfinder god for your 5e post

sup what's new

>>52384296
Interesting doesn't no always mean good

>>52384313
We're being trolled by an 11 year old wizard who hates druids and wants to put their ape testicles in his forcecage, and we're trying to figure out what the difference is between undermountain and underdark.

>>52384343
The original Druid here. Almost every wizard I meet on here seems to hate druids and always wants to force cube me

>>52384343
he sounds cool

>>52384362
b/c it undoes your power

>>52384375
I know but one guy said he'd force cube me when he didn't even know I was there

>>52384210
It's a pretty standard adventure, as far as I know. Most of the stuff can easily be converted over to 5e- You might need custom monsters for the later chapters.

Google "Rise of the runelords 5e". I think a few conversions have been done.

>>52384362

Why not a wall of force tho? It's not like druids are notoriously famous for their teleportation abilities.

>>52384385
i bet you were talking about being a gay ant or a wasp or something and he just forcecaged the whole hive or something cool like that, because he's cool

and you cried in your room alone

>>52384401
They get planeshift

>>52384413
No it was a hypothetical fly ambush. Why the fuck would we be in a hive they'd expect that

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>>52384277
Waterdeep the city is built by a mountain (Mount Waterdeep.)

Undermountain is located beneath both.

Repost because I'm a retard that didn't realize the thread was ded.

What are the drawbacks to Nomadic Anchor + Phantom Caravan? It seems like the Nomadic Step Mystic pretty much always is able to bail the whole party out of a sticky situation.

The few counters I can think of are:
>target/party member is unconscious and thus not willing
>vision of party members is obscured
>party members out of reach
>anti-magic field
>enemy springs ambush at nomadic anchor

>>52384422
>No it was a hypothetical fly ambush. Why the fuck would we be in a hive they'd expect that
lol flys
hey they're not even stat'd
druids are... GHEY!

>>52384448
its literally a tiny 0-cr with a flying speed

http://www.strawpoll.me/12550821/r

Are these results surprising?

>>52384448
Also why In hell did you come back here?

>>52384478
im always here

>>52383180
I haven't compared TYP to the original word by word but when I looked through it everything I remembered was in there.
The space it covers is relatively small, but back in the day every 5 ft needed to be examined in detail. At least after that module.

>>52384448
Stop posting anytime

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>Book called Tales Of The Yawning Portal
>No Undermountain anywhere

Hey I was hoping to get some suggestions for 'magic item blueprints' so I'm not just giving the players magic items and can instead incentivize them to go out and get the materials to make the thing themselves. Shit like harvesting or getting consent from an ogre for their bones and soul to make gauntlets of ogre strength. Like actual ingredients, or at most 'one major thematic component, then magic crystals and shit.'

>>52384704

>consent

>ogres

What ogre would let you have its bones and soul

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>>52383180

>>52384691
Undermountain is huge.

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>>52384737
They might come across an older ogre and convince it to be able to live on as something awesome instead of just dying old and shitty. Or they might be particularly charitable at the time, I dunno.

>>52384691
Undermountain a shit. Ruins of Castle Greyhawk is the best TSR megadungeon.

>>52384691
You do realize that we're still waiting on product codenamed Labyrinth, implied to be some form of megadungeon?

>>52384745
I don't give a fuck. If they mention it, they should fucking have it in the book.

>>52384769
Is that the one where you fight the Star Trek cast in their dressing rooms because Mordenkainen makes movies in his castle basement?

>>52384777
Labyrinth was the codename for this book.

>>52384766
Does suggestion count as concent

>>52384795
What are you talking about anon? It's only October. We just barely found out about the codename. UA mystic was delayed and is coming out next month, right before the election.

>>52384822
No, we've gone over this before.

>>52384783
No, that's WG7 Castle Greyhawk. I'm talking about WGR1 Ruins of Castle Greyhawk.

What is an artificier thunder cannon supposed to look like?

>>52384704
D&D really isn't suited to that kind of gameplay.

>>52384857
A blunderbuss, I'd imagine. Or, if you're really oldschool about your firearms, a Handgonne.

>>52384837
Ogres aren't really known to be charitable or consenting

>>52384871
Figured it was that + magitech of some sort. Thanks.

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Let's say I wanna give a randomly determined boon to the first player to take it.

What are some fun,versatile,interesting boons a sacred object/monolith can give to a player at 1st level and then a equally hindering curse to balance it?

Ide like it to be something at least relatively useful in most situations and hard to get rid of at low levels.

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What is the point of writing this if you can't go to the fucking dungeon?

>>52384893
For flavor

>>52384892
When you need it, a sword will always appear in your hand. The problem is, you can't let go of the sword, and it won't disappear until you're not at a risk.
Makes for awkward negotiations!

>>52384927
thats the first one in the list, thanks man

>>52384704

magic items that replicate a spell will have a sort of material component

So work your back through there?

I allow for Schematic crafting via progress in the investigation skill, a suitable facility which they have to either buy or be in enough good standing with a guild of artificers to use and a certain basis for which to progress their item with (specific books on the field, knowledge of the spell they mean to fabricate, expert assistance, etc)

if anyone sided with the druid you are a fucking retard

>>52384966
It was less about sides and more about you being an immature little shit. Druids are objectively a less powerful class than Wizards by comparison of spell lists. That wasn't the point.

>>52384998
im not him retard

enjoy being a dickless ape though treehugging faggot

>>52385021
You'd sure sound like him

>>52385032
because hes right and youre wrong

in fact wotc should just remove druids theyre actually the gayest fucking class save for bard but at least bard is useful beyond morphing into a bear twice then being fuck all useless because druid spells suck cock

>>52385076
I thought you had to be 18 to be on 4chan. I finally understand why people laugh at the retard kids

why is the Thief archetype so fucking awful

>>52385139
You spelled Assassin wrong.

>>52385139
Because simple thieves and burgalers aren't renown for being super bad ass

>>52385139
Every rogue archetype except for swashbuckler is pretty underwhelming.

so my current campaign has an evil jester-like BBEG (don't look at me - I took it over from another player and am trying to salvage it best as I can) but the players haven't actually met him yet and the previous DM didn't stat him.

this is my first time running 5e and I'm not sure how to build a proper 'boss' NPC. any suggestions? I'm thinking of making him a lv20 wizard but I'm worried they'll just gangbang him with the action economy. maybe a bard?

>>52382945
>Druid
>Turn into a giant ape
?

>>52383409
Well, yeah. She's a pretty big deal.

>>52385193
For you.

>>52385092
>implying half of 4chan isnt underage

you have a lot to learn

>>52385193
Yeah, her small size is part of her plan to eat and eat and eat until she gets bigger, her tattered clothing stretching and tearing as it fails to conceal her heaving girth any more.

She's going to become a goddess, even if she's got to become the pin up giant for inflation porn to do it.

>>52385172
dont build him like a PC

PCs are usually glass cannons

>>52385192
Ever heard of moon Druid

>>52385212
well of course. I'm not a retard like that guy or the wizard

>>52384873
>getting off the topic to hassle someone about a minor problem
it's like I'm really on /tg/

What exactly happens when you knock a flying enemy prone?

>>52385269
Whatever it's that guys ogre he can do what ever he can do whatever he wants with it

>>52385281
Depends on if it's hovering or not. I'd have it fall for a round until it recovers if it's not hovering

>>52385139
Because by RAW and apparently RAI, using magic items is not covered under the "Use Item" action that the Fast Hands feature enables.
Every group I've played with has chosen to ignore this and lets them have their bonus action fun as a potion and poisons dealer or deploy Dust of Disappearance at bonus action speed etc.

>>52385281
Their movement options are crawl, so they must therefore be knocked to the ground.

>>52383519
Different guy, the regional organizer for AL in my area is apparently hands off as fuck so we just have two stable tables were we just eschew the league stuff and just run the current hardcovers while still letting the store log our DCI numbers.

We have some great stable groups at each table, one more RP heavy the other more murder hobo-y.

It's generally fun and we have competent DMs on tap for certain. And a diverse group of nerds who also try to be welcoming and supportive of new players.

>>52385281
They fall, unless the source of their flight explicitly states they are kept aloft.

>>52385314
>depending magic items
Back to 3.PF with you.

Thief can still dump caltrops, ball bearings, oil, alchemist's fire, holy water, acid, and more with their bonus action.

>>52385332

While those are jolly good fun at low levels, they kinda fall off on impactfulness past level 5.
But as far as I understand, most groups don't play much past level 5 anyway? My group likes starting games at level 11.

>>52384998
>The dedicated 1d6 hitdie nerdy reads-from-books arcane spellcasting class is better at spellcasting than another class
Wow, who would have thought?

>>52385254
>Ever heard of moon Druid
14 divided by 3 doesn't equal 7 or more

>>52385365
Burn the wizards book and what he gonna do about it

>>52385159
>Implying
Swashbuckler is Rogue: Easy Mode.
That doesn't make it good. It just means if you think it's good you don't know how to play rogue.

That said, it's not bad and at-will charm person is pretty neat along with some of the other benefits, but AT is still better if you want to do a melee rogue.

>>52385380
It's divided by two. I would know I play one

>>52385383
Bitch to the DM.

>>52385414
Kek

>>52382683
Guys, I need some genereal help. I Just started a new 5th edition campaing. First time playing it. I'm pretty familiarized with 3.5, but I'm net to 5th.

I'm playing a Dwarf wizard. Can you guys give me any hot tips? I'm not looking into min-maxing, I just want to avoid obvious traps.

What school of specialization should I choose?
What kind of spells are best?
Did I already screwed up creating a Dwarf Wizard?

Thx a bunch

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>>52385400
Well you're playing it wrong then.
Best thing they can change into is a Mammoth at level 18.

>>52385400
well you play one wrong

>>52385383
Use the Conjuration feature to summon a new one thanks to Keen Mind.

>>52385434
Really. I forgot that. Because he's just level 5 right now

>>52385443

>>52385400
You are wrong. But my level 7 Druid enjoy polymorphing himself into a Half-red dragon Giant Ape.

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>>52382683
Is it possible to detect Mystics? In our setting Mystics are few and far between (introduced during our campaign so it was written in that they do exist just are very RARE).

But can others detect their powers? One of the players is one of the only Mystics in the world and "kept it secret" for his entire life (spent a lot of time as an underground assassin, did personal voyages, etc).

Is this possible?

>>52385466
I just responded to this

>>52385470
detect magic still work.

How do you guys make boss fights feel like bosses? Every time I try they just feel like normal encounters with an NPC in it that has more health and does more damage. I'm not too sure how I can make them feel more climactic. Any advice?

>>52385470
Mystic powers are magic, they're just not spells.

The UA states this pretty fucking clearly.

>>52385470
Psionics:Arcana transparency is 100% up to the DM, there are no official rules about it whatsoever.
You can have it show on a simple Detect Magic spell, or require a custom Intelligence (Psionics) skill to become trained in to even know it exists.

>>52385497
It just says its "psy ability" not magical.

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Now that the dust has settled, can we all agree this book sucks?

>>52385492
give them unique abilities or weapons.

have them fight in interesting terrain. have the fight next to a pit

Players love kicking things into pits!

>>52385492
add MMO gimmick. Boss trigger stuff at certain health (including call in more mobs, teleport into an unreachable place, don't step in fire)

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>>52385518

>>52385492
Legendary actions. Lair actions. It's literally part of the 5e design, how did you even miss that?

>>52385463
>Half-red dragon Giant Ape.
Wouldn't that require you to see one first?

>>52385518
What's up with people who can't read today? At least try double checking your source for once.

>>52385537
It isn't a book faggot it's an online article stupid fucking snob homo i hope you shit yourself fag

>>52385550
fuck off you scum bag piece of shit. you are jumping into this for no reason you fat head homo

>>52385520
I don't think we can all agree on that, no.

>>52385545
Of we're talking about draconic sorcerer Druid, it is a scaly giant ape

>>52385545
Not for polymorph. You can become any beast you can imagine.

>>52385520
You're supposed to bring up points and show evidence, anon.

>>52385564
> Deflect
> Getting all defensive instead of accepting his mistake

Are you like 13?

>>52385433
Dwarf wizard can work for the armour, ESPECIALLY in a game where the DM doesn't let you do bullshit like taking a level of cleric for heavy armour.

If you want, you can take the heavy armour feat at level 4 and start wearing heavy armour which you don't need 15 strength to wear, but honestly medium armour master would be much better if you had a +3 dexterity somehow, or even moderately armoured considering that also gives you shield proficiency. And suddenly, hobgoblin's sounding more up that ally.
And then suddenly dwarf's sounding kinda trash when you could instead take a level of warlock to start with then become an abjuration wizard for crazy armor of agathys fuckery then grabbing moderately armoured.

.. Yeah, you know, maybe it's best to ignore the whole feats thing and just up your int at every level instead.

I'll actually answer the questions now.

>What school
Well, what do you want to do?
Blasting?
Skeleton army?
More health?
Illusions?
Ensuring enemies fail your saves?
Throwing bombs and acid?
Hypnotizing people?
Being useless at alchemy?

>What kind of spells are best
Don't get witch bolt. It's a common trap.
Get lots of ritual spells. You can cast rituals even when they're not prepared if you spend cast time + 10 minutes on it.
Find familiar in particular is good, but you should probably collect lots of spells like detect magic, identify (and a pearl to cast it with)...
Blasting isn't always the best.

>Dwarf wizard
As above, can work. Armour.

>>52385492
Special terrain and/or win conditions.
>The villain is being healed by his minions! You must kill them first!
>The villain is sniping at you from behind perfect cover! You must lower a series of bridges to get to him!
>Every time you take off 1/3 of the villain's health, his attacks change!

>>52385433
Grease is the best first level spell in the game.

>>52385611
Preach, brudda.

>>52385611
I'll think you'll find it's mage armor

>>52385573
It's rehashed stuff with some new art for the price of a new adventure.

>>52385550
>>52385537
>>52385497
To be fair, psionics used to be distinct from magic instead of just a separate source for magical powers. In every edition they appeared in, psionics and magic not interacting was either the default or specifically mentioned as an option. Can't blame people for getting confused over this sudden change in lore.

>>52385586
It's clearly a different person trying to troll. Ignore 'em.

>>52385523
One of my players has already said he wants to grapple the boss and throw themselves over an edge.

>>52385524
>>52385602
I'll try these. I have a few ideas for terrain. Have any PCs ever seemed annoyed by stages or win conditions?

How useful is a valor bard?

>>52385690
>Have any PCs ever seemed annoyed by stages or win conditions?
Naw dawg, they love that shit. Gives them a chance to use spells in interesting ways or combat options that don't usually make sense, and breaks the monotony of hp races.

>>52385699
All bards are great. If you like the valor bard, play one and I guarantee you'll be useful.

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>>52385650
You can't get attacked if your enemy is prone 20 feet away.

>>52385699
All bards are fantastic.
I'm personally going to play a warlock3/valorbard10 for the next campaign I'm gonna play in.

>>52385600
Thx for the reply buddy

So, in 3.5 you can cast while wearing armor? No arcane spell chance failure?

>Well, what do you want to do?
I'm leaning towards a more control/defensive mage. Not a big fan of blowing shit up. I was thinking about abjurer or maybe conjurer as specializations? Is there any of those that is a obvious trap?

>>52385770
Yeah in 5e as long as you are proficient in the armor you can cast in it.

>>52385766
oh look another faggot dipping in warlock

kys friend

>>52385813
Why so mad friend?

>>52385813
You seem awfully upset.

>>52385813
STOP HAVING FUN WRONG

My level 6 party just beat a nerf down Iron Golem (half health, same ac and attack) yesterday.

I'm pretty proud of them.

>>52385770
5e, if you're not proficient you can't cast in armour. If you are proficient, you can cast with no problems whatsoever.

Conjurer kinda requires you to be a bit creative to make the most use of it.
You can make things like bombs, acid or such, and so that's only really curbed by how much your DM allows you to do with non-magical items and how often you're doing non-combat shit.

It's harder to get milage out of than, say, divination, which has some pretty good support potential, though portent is usually best used for making sure enemies fail important saves, I guess.

As long as you know what you're doing, it doesn't really matter what archetype you pick because wizard is pretty strong and useful. But if you don't know what you're doing... Eh. Still offers useful utility to the party, I guess.

It's hard to go wrong with abjurer, too. For the most part to start with it's just more health.

>>52385400
haha i was right all along
druids
are
GHEY!

>>52385820
>>52385830
>>52385845
t. multiclass fags

literally kill yourselves, theres optimization and then theres being a munchkin that dips into warlock or sorcerer for every build he ever makes

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>>52385460

>>52385770
As long as you are proficient with a given type of armor, you may cast while wearing it. Otherwise, there is no casting failure, you simply lose the ability to cast while wearing armor you;re not proficient in.

Abjuration is good, and particularly thematic for a Dwarf wizard. Nothing preventing you from also taking some conjuration/transmutation spells for physical battlefield control either, as there are no banned/opposed schools in 5e. I would still recommend keeping a damage-dealing cantrip or Magic Missile in your repertoire though, for emergencies.

>>52385888
You still seem awfully upset.
I would tell you that the warlock part is due to background, but you'd just go "REEEEEEE USING BACKGROUND TO JUSTIFY MUNCHKIN REEEEEE" so I'll refrain from doing so.

Have a nice day and I hope things work out for you so you won't have to be so mad all the time.

>>52385888
I just wanted a psion knight, why must you yell at me ;-;

>>52384034
Flippin undermountain mebbe

>>52385883
>implying not being able to turn into as many things is gay

Please leave it's past your bedtime

>>52385699
Compared to a lore bard:

>Combat inspiration is objectively worse than cutting words
>If you up dexterity a lot, you don't even need medium armour, and if you use big weapons then you don't even need shields. However, shields+armour is good. However, a lore bard could just take the 'moderately armoured' feat.
>You don't get the 3 extra skills a lore bard gets. However, I guess you could just spend a feat on that if you're bothered.
>Extra attack isn't massively great unless you have some nice magical weapon. It's good if you intend to grapple sometimes, though. But in the end, extra attack isn't a wasted feature, but it's competing with lore bard getting stuff like aura of vitality, counterspell, etc.
>Battle magic is pretty okay.

Lore bard has better support through cutting words. Usually considered the best choice, and you can get moderately armour if your DM keeps bullying you.
Valor bard is better if your DM bullies you a lot and you drain all your spell resources often and are sometimes required to grapple a bitch.

>>52385888
I took a level in sorcerer to get shield spell and a higher ac what's wrong with that?

>>52385911
yeah its probably identical to your past 8 warlock 2/anything x in fact i bet all your characters are all part of the same family that get their powers from Satan himself because hes their family patron but your characters are all breaking the mold of your family and are sick of taking orders from great granddad!

also you like playing bard lol

that automatically makes you a homosexual

>>52385941
Lore bard can become a pretty good ranged support if you just get a longbow and pick up Swift Quiver at lvl 10 or so.

How can I be a Red Mage in 5e?
Lore Bard? Valor Bard?

>>52385813
>His bard doesn't have the archfey Patron of Freddie Mercury
>His DM didn't give him a Foculchan Bandore as a Pact Weapon

Anon, I am so sorry

>>52385139
Assassin's effectively get 1 feature that's sometimes useful and the rest is stuff you use once until their capstone.

At least every Thief ability is cool and interesting to build around. Climbing, super sneaky, long jump man is fun.

>>52385975
my table doesnt play with bards because we are christian and dont believe in fucking other men

>>52385953
It somehow feels that I already pointed out that this is how you'd react.

It appears that I was correct.
This is also the first warlock anything I've played in any system, I've mainly been playing straight rogues and barbarians. But good on you for trying to shit on other people mate.

Feel free to keep at it, I'll stop replying from now on though.

>>52385999
go back to pathfinder you are less welcome that the druid

>>52382683
More races.

>>52385998
But anon. You're supposed to love thy neighbor and not covet his wife.

Anyone a download link to D&D novels, like Brimstone Angels?

>>52385953

Holy shit, what's this 2 level dip Warlock Combo that triggers Anon so hard?
I need to get on that shit

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>>52386013
Not that dude but shit man
>guy has apparently played mostly just straight rogues and barbarians
>telling him to go back to Pathfinder
holy fuck, is this what weaponized autism looks like?

>>52385971
Yeah. There are spells that give you action / bonus action attacks that kinda makes the extra attack less interesting. And it's not like cutting words is really that bad.

But valor bard has more of a place than some class archetypes have compared to others, such as land druid under moon druid.

>>52386013
You and your wizard friend are less welcome than me. All I did was make a couple retarded statements out of misunderstanding. Not spewing fluent retard from my fingertips

>>52386041
Most invocations are fairly strong, so people automatically assume that any level dip of warlock is a munchkin build.

Hell, even a warlock19/anythingX would trigger these people.

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>>52385999
>Straight rogues and barbarians
>Not playing barbarogues

>>52385998
>Christians
>Playing Dungeons and Dragons

Anon, don't you know this games teaches Satanism

>>52386041
Probably just EB, Hex.

Any recommend stat array for STR valor Bard? 27-point buy.

Currently thinking Half-Elf with...
15(+1) 12 13(+1) 8 10 14(+2)