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Pathfinder General /pfg/

Home Cooked Meal Edition.
When was the last time your character ate a meal that wasn't magically conjured or consisted mostly or entirely of field rations? Is there someone in your party who's job it is it cook? Have you ever RPed a camp side dinner?

Unified /pfg/ link repository: http://pastebin.com/hAfKSnWW

Avowed Playtest 1: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5HkyGRtGZy3SWVhdWFBWERWWjg
Avowed Playtest 2: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rV7kaF9JL2gw9xQalkEnlEDL9WXtbsaCqNABm_pLIgc/edit?usp=sharing

Spheres of Might playtest:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/160bWvYewTwEXj9ZZv-jJ9-VrvGpYNHNcF8w6BMsdqgU/edit#

Sphere of Power playtest:
Creation Handbook Playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kitAB8sHgmuD3fvOMuI_KyV_dxpO2wrxQmbnCoRgglA/edit?usp=sharing
Dark Handbook Playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zHRZyaMh_QwWcQ-ROGCjQyCdflD6cbm9VdEOJMpC06I/edit?usp=sharing
Life Handbook Playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wTv7VGj2qzjGnReD1lLRwC8iNG_G6f-a6XzMQlTB1yM/edit?usp=sharing
Mind Handbook Playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Kp4acH7zTk4e3DfPdYDfTk1jJClly3yp27Jfrf3FRWw/edit?usp=sharing

Gear of Power Playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zIomq0TFP7uPdlFB8VRAIWQEjAXLV5CYpP3HmjySynU/edit?usp=sharing
Wild Magic Handbook: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xBfoH6YcTdD3kwjn3ikItWPBGzIm9g3SVkVvUQD1yUw/edit?usp=sharing
Wild Magic Tables: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NU5bK1Dyzu66KgIdrHNaaXBw1eHVpcHZHOh5BDaxMzU/edit?usp=sharing

Bloodforge Infusions updated playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GvwMclLSw15slYI7D5xLdjMzr-Nau92hNha9Sx0LOk4/edit#

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>>52382213
My current Half-elf Slayer grew up in the central trade city of the world, and she knows the cooking techniques of half a hundred cultures, as well as their languages, from serving them food. Now she makes a different meal every day to keep her crew healthy and happy.
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>>52382213
It would have been the very last session, at the end of the evening, after returning from an ill-fated tomb-dive in which the witch was set ablaze by the wizard. Upon arrival at our inn suite, the witch immediately set about cleaning up, the paladin visited her while she was cleaning up to "comfort" her, and my cleric listened to the whole thing because he's got +17 perception and walls just aren't thick enough these days.

But before all the bathing and sex stuff, there was totally some falafel and hummus.
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>>52382284
>he still hasn't invested in ear plugs.
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>>52382213
Our group almost always has one person with ranks in Profession or Craft (Cook)

If we make the skill check by a certain amount, the GM will give us cool new recipes. They don't do anything, its just flavor.
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>>52382213
My party hates fun so no

t. GM wishing they had better players.
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>>52382300
It didn't used to be a problem! Damn Varisian woman corrupting a holy Champion like that. It's downright suspicious. Reckon he may need a stern talkin' to sooner rather than later.
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>>52382213
Our Kingmaker group discovered a giant hive of beegirls who had flooded the surrounding area with honey as a defense measure.

My vigilante offered to show them the wonders of human technology and make them waffles to go with all their honey but then it turned out they couldn't eat eggs and dairy ;_;
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>>52382302
>it's just flavor
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>>52382213
We have a player who has some bullshit he works into all his characters, so they all dig fancy whiskey and have ranks in cooking. Problem is that he's shit at descriptions so it's just 'a meal.'

That player aside though, my rogue always eats on the cheap. So her 'meals' are grains and whatever else is cheap, one of her goals is to actually make enough money to go to a fancy place and have a five course meal. My evil wizard enjoys long pork, but I don't think that counts.
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>>52382373
My evil cleric ate his sister, but, in his defense, he cried about it the whole time. Still keeps her skull for good luck.
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>>52382213
Yesterday! We're visiting my character's hometown and crashing with my parents, who are quite good at cooking.
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>>52382391
What a pussy.
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>>52382370
Now in my defense, that pun was entirely unintended
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>>52382391
Yeah, my evil wizard isn't human and is modeled after darker parts of shinto mythology, so it has a little home grill and its rations are our past kills. The game is (superficially) supposed to be jade regent and I wanted to show our weeb player the difference between 'kawaii-desu onee-sama!' and actually using source material.
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>>52382410
He loved her so much, Anon. She was his first. Watching the plague rot her skin nearly destroyed him.

It was a stressful time, but he's doing much better now, with the Pallid Princess' blessing.
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>>52382391
>>52382410
Can't even appreciate his mom's cooking.
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>>52382391
My wendigo themed barbarian ate all four of his brothers. Didn't even need to, he just had to eat one, but the other three were good eating.

And then he shoved their names together and called himself that.
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>>52382213
I want to stuff Megumin full with a nutritious dinner so she grows properly!
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Played a druid once that ate people in and out of wild shape, but she was raised by tigers, so it just made sense.
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>>52382516
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>Fava beans and a nice Chianti General
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How grave is the punishment for killing a baron, duke, count, lord, or any other member of the feudal lords or aristocracy compared to murdering a king?
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Guys... Guys, the OP is talking about normal people food, not cannibalism. Please.
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>>52382569
Well, normal people take the sacrament, don't they?
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>>52382569
But we are talking about people food.
People bread, people steak, people sashimi...
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>>52382568
Had a character who ate a duke in a game once. They tried to burn him at the steak!
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>>52382568
Did you eat him/her after the fact? If not, it's wasting food, an that's not right.
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>>52382569
My bad, pretty sure I started that train. I could talk about my rogue's eating habits, but 'the waxy fish tastes like tuna at quarter cost.' doesn't seem like the best convo fodder.
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>>52382568
You can expect a heavier punishment due to the importance of the individual (and the resources their family and allies will likely put into getting revenge), but it's still "just" murder.

Regicide, on the other hand, isn't just killing a man, it's decapitating a nation, putting its people in jeopardy, and weakening its military strength. At best, you'll be executed. At worst, you'll wish you were executed.
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>>52382473
>She was his first.
I hope he was her first, too.

This is how it should be.
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>>52382596
>today a Papist was practicing idolatry near me
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>>52382522
I prefer explosion girl back when she was called Lina Inverse, but I guess its better than when she was Louise Françoise Le Blanc de La Vallière

>>52382600
>They tried to burn him at the steak!
mmmmmmmm, steak
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>>52382620
He was her first. Father didn't know, but Mother did.

Then the plague took them all, all but him.
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>>52382634
I haven't watched Slayers, and I have to assume that first one is spoken at least partly through a nostalgia filter, but I definitely agree with you on that second point.

That was one of the worst pieces of shit I ever had the misfortune to watch.
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>>52382634
lina best explosion
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>>52382658
no lina is great fuck you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSC4nCa6Qw4
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Memes in the water are turning /pfg/ gay!
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Guys! What if we used dead people to make candies and pastries!?
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>>52382634
>implying you would be happy to become explosion girl's baka inu
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Someone give me a class to play. Character just "died" because gm refused pow and refused to send any texts back about new character.

I'm more pissed than anything right now and just need an idea that isn't a stupid fetish character.

Party already has psion, wizard, barbarian, and stalker (tell me about it).
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>>52382669
Lies and slander!

I was gay before I got here!
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>>52382658
Louise is worst rie kugimiya
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>>52382669
>Meeeemes on the waaaaateerrr
>Shitposts in the sky
>Meeeemes on the waaaaaateeeerrr
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>>52382692
So your the globalists!
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>>52382690
Cleric is easy and useful. Leaves room for you to think about your character.
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>>52382651
>mfw
At least he was able to fulfill his role as onii-chan and love his imouto.
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>>52382690
>psion
Be a Wilder. Wilders are grrrrrrrrrrrThey're not actually that great, but you can't go wrong...
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>>52382690
Mesmerist! It doesn't even have to be fetish!
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>>52382717
Yes, at least they had some time together. And he really does keep her skull as his most treasured possession, in a little chest he brings everywhere.
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>Party finally got out of the forest
>Learned their friendly NPC was a Shadow Avowed and he decided to leave
>Killed a necromancer trying to raise a bone dragon
>Sold enough gems to get about 4,000 gold each
>One PC goes and buys a house
>Another goes and gets drunk
>Third tells fortunes and causes sunlight in the middle of the night because wild magic
>Fourth gets a job as a bodyguard
Now finally downtime before the real story.
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>>52382662
>>52382668
I wanna explode inside Lina!

>>52382686
I wanna kink shame Louise and get her a proper child therapist and a family councilor for her whole family, because hot damn they all have massive issue
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Does your party have a banner or an anthem?
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>>52382737
If he was given a wish, would (could) he bring her back?
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>>52382754
>a proper child therapist and a family councilor for her whole family, because hot damn they all have massive issue
Welcome to nobility. Next stop: incestuous arranged marriages.
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>>52382767
This is my party's anthem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sruEnQ9HkU&t=8s
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>>52382213
Last session, some of the PCs were new to town and those of us who were locals took them out to dinner before we start our next investigation. On top of some great food we also got to watch the newbies get trolled by the owner, an old lady with no fucks left to give.
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>>52382798
>>52382754
Seriously, I think just un-bratting her and making her learn to grow up and deal with her problems might be one of the reasons why ZnT gets so many fanfics and crossover fics

Because if it weren't for the crappy characters, and the shitty harem romcon writing, that series would've actually been pretty cool and interesting
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>>52382767
Theme of the defenders of the silver city

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBmoQSHfO2U
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>>52382733
I have no idea what that is.

>>52382714
I don't need an easy class. I just need something to play because I can't think of anything I want to play.
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>>52382690
Sounds like you need some divine magic or maybe some skills in your party. Might I suggest a cleric who worships a trickery god?

Tit for tat though, I need advice too. I have an evil wizard who went into arcane trickster, but DM allowed all sorts of third party and 3.5 conversion shit over the course of the game and he's allowing me to retrain feats so that I can get back up to par with shit like super saiyans, naruto nonsense, and a bleach style reaper that does 1k damage minimum. I might be able to talk him into some levels being retrained, but all I have for certain is feats.

Ideally, I'd like to stay in my 'evil trickster' archetype; but a ton of shit has stupid high SR and mind affecting immunity. Any advice on what I should look into?
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>>52382767
Behold, the theme of most every party!
https://youtu.be/jlxmKsTvcLg
Hi, I'm Ameiko, and welcome to Jackass!
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>>52382886
It's one of the Occult Classes. Cha based 6th level casting, d8 HD, 3/4 BAB, good Will and Reflex, 6+Int skill points, Cha to Will, Swift Action to give a target a Will penalty and gain extra damage when you hit it, and a bunch of nifty little tricks to toss around in combat. For example -
>False Flanker: A duplicate of the mesmerist appears momentarily, as though he were fighting in tandem with the subject. The mesmerist can trigger this trick when the subject moves into or begins her turn in a square where she threatens an enemy. An illusory duplicate of the mesmerist appears in any unoccupied space adjacent to that enemy. This duplicate counts as threatening the enemy for the purposes of determining flanking, but can’t actually make attacks. The duplicate disappears at the end of the turn during which the trick is triggered. This is an illusion (figment) effect, and a creature that interacts with the false flanker can attempt a saving throw to disbelieve the effect.
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>>52382926
THIS WEEK WE'RE GOING TO THE BAYOUS AND WE'LL TICKLE SOME CANNIBALS!
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>>52382668

We need a return to this type of adventuring.
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>>52382213
My character's diet consists entirely of either cheap drop-in-boiling-water meals due to still being in Bardic College Debt. She supplements them with cheap wine, frozen veggies in said meals to give it some color, and on rare occasions a side of pork.
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>>52382984
>frozen veggies in said meals to give it some color,
poor girl is going to run a Vitamin E deficiency
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>>52382782
He would do it without hesitation. Just as soon as the Lady Despair gives him the power and the knowledge to do so, he'll do it himself.
I predict she might not love what he's becoming, though, so it would be pretty bittersweet.
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>>52382960
10/10
Wasn't it in the mountains though
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>>52382213
We're doing a Monster Hunter meets Masterchef side-campaign, so /everyone's/ job is to cook!
My tiefling Medic/Formless Master is really good with stews, the Kitsune Oracle is an expert in anything remotely involving rice, and the Tiefling Magus fisherman is getting real tired of our and his black blade's shit.
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>>52382963
I mean Lina is quite literally a murderhobo
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>>52383064
All she has to do is sweat those veggies in a bit of oil beforehand.
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>>52383189
I ship Constantine with his cute, mountable sister
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>>52383189
You and a noose. Holy shit how do you format a post so poorly?
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>>52383189
>Morgase Mhartis
>>Alignment
>Neutral Evil
I am concerned
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>>52383189
I thought Constantine wasn't able to play?
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>>52383215
How would you format it?
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>>52383223
I'm more concerned about her apparent lack of classes. Just what IS she?
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>>52383236
Pure Evil
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>>52383224
GM might be making accommodations.
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>>52383189
what a horrid format for that post, kill yourself.
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>>52383226
Francisca Zilant - Female
CG - Avowed || Vigilante
5'7", 119lbs
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>>52383189
Post player names so I know what other characters they have in pfg games.
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>>52382198

Make it Mythic and high-level as befitting worshiped gods fixing continental problems in short order.

I will join it, and I will love it!
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>>52383226
Or, since I forgot race.
Francisca Zilant
CG - Suli - Avowed || Vigilante
Female, 5'7", 119lbs
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How would you handle a game that includes both Occult classes and Psionic classes? Their flavors feel pretty distinct from each other, at least to me, but do you think there's anything about having them together that would be weird or troublesome?
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>>52383292
Yeah that looks good.
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>>52383317
No, not at all. Both sets are actually rather well balanced (with the exception of their full casters), in fact, and two bits of overlapping balance don't make them suddenly imbalanced.
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>>52383317
DSP actually wrote an article about this exact topic.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YcE6T2piHuQYSVcF3BUPkF0eWwvtAS_heH8ZcOQHUHI/edit

Ignore the fact the Cryptic's fluff is closer to Psychic
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>>52383356
Cryptic fluff honestly makes more sense for an Arcane class than a Psionic class to be perfectly honest.
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Can you make a dex based druid? Was thinking of a halfling druid and making use of either weapon finesse or wild shape something.
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>>52382568
Is this a new episode of shit you should be asking your GM? Oh BOY!
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>>52383290
Actually It was going to start at level 5, as the players are told by the priestess that they must "regain" their power to bring change to the world. After each major boss, the party will gain more mythic ranks and divine stuff until by the end of the game they are true Living Gods. Until that point though, its pure Dark Souls prepare your anus.
The final boss would also be their old Wizard companion who froze them in the first place, but was killed soon after by the enemy army, and wants to end the world out of madness and grief. The priestess who tends the Shrine of the Forgotten Gods is unknowingly his descendant
You gotta start small, how else would they be able to be treated well by pic related?

I just gotta get around to actually writing the story to the thing too.
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>>52383395
I haven't played a druid in pf yet, but I assumed the standard was not worry about physical stats because you wild shape into animals with better stats anyway.
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>>52383393
I think everyone in DSP sees the Cryptic as a failed attempt at being whatever it was meant to be.
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>>52383466
That's how it was in 3.5. That's not true in PF.
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>>52383485
Which is a shame.

Cryptic is the only Psionic class I give two shits about.
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>>52383142
Actually sounds pretty cool. (fuck kitsunes tho)
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>>52383287
Makes sense.

>>52383329
>>52383270
Rev up your shipping engines /pfg/, who do you ship with who?

Francisca Zilant
Adam R.
CG - Suli - Avowed || Vigilante
Female, 5'7", 119lbs

Caranthir
Xekiest
NG - Elf - Magus || Fighter
Male, 6'4", 130lbs

Constantine Servilius
DHB
LG - Angelkin Aasimar - Cavalier || Paladin
Male, 6'6", 235lbs

Evelyn Terris
Lillipad
NG - Human - Wizard || Occultist
Female, 5'11", ???

Eudon Rain
Ravioli
CG - Human - Wizard || Samurai
Male, ???, ???

Morgase Mhartis
Argentum
NE - Human - ??? || ???
Female, ???, ???

Who do you ship?
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>>52383525
STOP WITH THIS SHIT
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>>52383525
Get the fuck out, faggot.
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>>52383287
Why does that even matter aside from attention whoring, you bitch.
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>>52383525
MorgaseXHoly Avenger to the face
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>>52383525
Whichever one looks closest to L.
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>>52383576
L is great, but B is best.
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>>52383576
stop this
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>>52383597
>B is best

She's tied with F IMO.

both are GREAT for breeding though...
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>>52383597
>B
>Not J or H
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>>52383551
>>52383557
But I fixed the formatting.
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>>52383525
DHB can't even make the game you fucking twat.
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>>52383692
>DHB gets into a game
>fucking refuses
ungrateful twat
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>>52383663
You need to fuck off and take that shit to some erp chatroom or something. Seriously you people need to get some pussy.
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>>52383576
I'd play as or date any of these women as long as they were fun characters or they cared about me because I'm open-minded and lonely.
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>>52383663
No dude fucking kill yourself, the formatting is still annoying, because the post is inherently annoying

Fuck off to your ERP chatroom and don't bring that garbage here
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>>52383525
Why do you people obsess over "shipping" these fucking literally who characters? This is something I'd expect from tumblr browsing teenage girls, not fucking grown men on a Vietnamese Fisherman forum.
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>>52383663
Don't listen to them anon, I appreciate your work and effort.
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>>52383718
>>52383836
>samefag
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>>52383646
J is great too, but H is pedobait.

>>52383630
Indeed they are.
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>>52383871
>7 minutes apart

probably not you stupid nigger
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What do I need for a chilly adventure besides personal trinkets, clothes, protection from the cold, shelter, fire & light, food, and weapons & armor? I feel like I'm forgetting something obvious.
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Does Golarion have any fantasy fruits or vegetables? We know about Pesh, but are there citrus apples or weird meaty watermelons? What about spices, or heck textiles?
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>>52383877
>H hips
>pedo
I'm no expert but I'm pretty sure that's not how child looks like.
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>>52383576
Morgase is clearly J or K in appearance, Evelyn is either C, D, or G, and Francisca would fall under either A, H, or L depending. It really all depends on their proportions.
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>>52383937
Climbing gear, snowshoes, though I guess clothes cover the shoes.
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>>52383937

A horse to carry it all.
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>>52383937
snowshoes. warm sleeping bag or blanket. a well insolated water canteen, some oil for rust
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>>52383964
I love me some huge fucking titties. What else can I say?
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>>52383937
Sled, possibly pulled by either dogs, reindeer, or some sort of magical creature, to put your gear on.
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>>52384014

Finland pls go.
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>>52384000
Well, to each his own, pursue what you will, but leave bullying the short stuff to those that will do it affectionately.
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>>52384026
Well, looks like someone is going to be put on the naughty list this year.
Hohoho!
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>>52383223
Relax, the last time someone posted that about Morgase I gave the explanation on her outlook on life and some people started to Waifu her.

>>52383236
I don't know, she was a "Has STRfaggotry Gone Too Far?" Brutal Slayer Avowed, but that was before the nerfs and I need to rebuild her. Probably Striker/Something.
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>>52383969
>>52383981
>>52383982
>>52384014
Alright, so I'll double down on snuggly blankets and the like, grab some climbing gear, and get a donkey or mule because horses are expensive at level 1.

Plus then other characters can compliment her ass. It's a win-win.
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>>52384126
What's her outlook on life, and why?
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How many religious wars has your party or players started? And how do you convince Iomedean paladins that you are not worshiping demons after you dedicate an entire country to worshiping Gorum and you have a cult of demon worshiping motherfuckers in your castle dungeon summoning demons so you can honor Lord of Iron by defeating them in a fight to the death?
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>>52384165
Templars pls go. We all know you worship Baphomet
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>>52384145
Be stronk and fight a lot.
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My DM has ruled that the Life Sphere's Restore ability can not remove fatigue/exhaustion that came from Overcharge. What other ways are there for me to get around it? Preferably things that only cost 1 or 2 talents if possible.
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>>52384197

What's the name of the scrappy multicultural, multiracial, multisexual and progressive team of underground fighters you help in the Worldwound again?
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Dear various WotR DMs,

Make blind puns.

Sincerely, someone playing not-/pfg/ WotR
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>>52384203
Sounds really cute. What's she look like?
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>>52384333
Mordred from Fate, so very waifu-able.
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>>52384145
Quoting myself from way back: >>51874179

It's... well, she's complicated. As said, it would be a lie that she would never get into a fight with a fellow party member, but to take that sentence and twist it to mean "Hurr Durr she wants to beat up the party 'cause she's a cunt" is wrong. She lives for fighting, that's true, but there are so many different contexts for her to fight someone in, because it's how she communicates.

If she respects someone, she'll want a friendly spar to test their mettle.

If she likes someone, she'll want to spar on the regular so they both get stronger.

If she's attracted to someone, she'll demand they fight her, and if he agrees she'll see where things go in the heat of the moment.

But she'll never throw the first punch (unless it's a "LET'S SEE YOU GRIT THOSE TEETH" type moment where she sees Party Paladin in despair and decides that it's better for him or her to be mad at the evil teammate than to be sulking over spilled milk. And even that would be one non-power attack non-aether channel non-lethal unarmed strike.)

She's a very physical person, and expects people to be just as physical with her as she is with them.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-Fig_LoBy4

someone should make this for www
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What are the Oracle Mysteries that give Sidestep Secret or something similar?
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>>52384405
>Part Legend
>Part Devil
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>>52384405
I-is this Black Dynamite's real father
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>>52384405
Big black bull was one of my concepts, but I threw it out because I didn't want to come off as being disrespectful to the setting
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Any races with +Str/Cha -Wis?
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>>52384675
There's Angel-blood Aasimar, they get +2 str/cha without the -wis
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>>52384675
I think Nagaji are either -Int or -Wis
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>>52384726
-Int. I also have Pitborn Tiefling for that.
>>52384693
Yeah, but then I'd have to be an Aasimar.
Thanks man, I appreciate the answer.
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So when is the PLD salt beginning? When are final picks being announced?
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>tfw you make a blatant X knockoff but your group accuse you of making a Y knockoff
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>>52384405
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyPhsFxnc_c
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>>52384807
Not soon enough
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>>52384807
You haven't heard of the greatest bamboozling?
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How dickish would I be if I removed common and instead gave every region, even not full kingdom, its own language and dialect?
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>>52384910

I love it.
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>>52384909
Speaking of, how's the Ruse Cruise coming along? I've been keeping myself bust making these other One Piece builds but I want to see if anyone else has made any other posts.
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>>52384910
Is this another "Why do they speak the same language in all these places?" bitchfests. Common actually exists. Most people here just don't notice it because it's English.
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>>52384807
Hopefully soon.
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>>52384940
Not since Vult made his post.
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>>52384910
I say its a good idea

>>52384942
The problem with that is lingua franca is very hard to actually implement and utilize in a world or setting without advanced mass communication across the world. Even in our world despite how ubiquitous English is, its still not yet a total lingua franca
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>>52384807
>When are final picks being announced?

We've still got until April 1st before anything official is announced.
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>>52384910
Most people know tons of languages anyway.
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>>52385003
Which is why there are multiple "Commons" on Golarion. Taldan, Tien, Kelish, and Polyglot are all "Common" depending on where you are.
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>>52384910
You stress the bard-types. The party depends on one or two people being really good at convincing others, but when you put them in situations where only someone garbage at charisma-ing knows the language, you wind up with a party having to use the crippled leg to stand on AND made someone who specializes in something useless at it in an entire adventure.
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>>52384993
Just one more thing he's sucked the joy out of.
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>>52384942

The majority of the world's common people don't speak English.
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>>52384910

How about, nobility speaks an entire different language than the rest of the population because it's fancy and separates them from their own subjects?
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>>52385094
Have the Taldan nobility speak Azlanti, and the Chelish nobility speak Infernal.
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>>52384993
Which post?
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>>52385094
So like with nobles speaking French when England was taken over by the Normans?
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>>52385094
That works for some noble characters, but your basic knight dude is going to be able to speak to the people that live around him, because he hasn't lost touch with the social order. He remembers that he owes people guidance, leadership, and protection.
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>>52385120
Something about a Betrothed Avowed who's a dragon's twin rape-babies.
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Where in Golarion would be a good place for a moon princess?
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>>52385188
Numeria. She could be a cute Kellid tribal princess, who bravely helps her people defeat those dastardly robots!
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>>52385188
Define "Moon Princess"
Because I'm sure there could be a position like that in the religious scene of Tian-Xia, except it would be a Prince since the moon god is a dude
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>>52385188

What do you mean by "Moon Princess?"
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So I'm a bit confused. Shardwalkers says:
>The following subsystems are in play: Initiation, Pact Magic, Spheres of Power, Spheres of Might

Does that mean NO OTHER CLASSES are allowed, or just that those extra things are allowed on top of normal stuff? There's a brawler, fighter, and a kineticist in the apps, so I'm assuming 1pp is allowed, but I'm experiencing weird doubts suddenly.
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>>52385221
>>52385227
Princess with any sort of connection to the moon or moon theme. Like, Qadira would be wrong because they're all about the sun. Tian-Xia would be closer, except I think their nobility is also supposed to all be sun descended.

>>52385203
Possibility, strong possibility there.
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>>52385221
Unless she's ritually or symbolically married to the Moon dude! That would be really cute!
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>>52385258
>Tian-Xia would be closer, except I think their nobility is also supposed to all be sun descended.

The other issue is the Moon in Tian Xia is a dude, so you'd either have to be a man or a woman that dresses and acts like a man.
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>>52385247
from what i understand, the DM doesn't seem to want cleric, druid, and wizard nonsense. i could be completely wrong though.
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>>52385258
I suggest Kellids because I know they dig Desna and star shit, and they all live out in the boonies where you can see the sky really well, plus Numeria has Extra Space Connections, so it's a Double Fit.
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>>52385258
>Princess with any sort of connection to the moon or moon theme.
None. The moon is home to horrible demons and Lovecraftian moon beasts. The closest you can get is a Princess who is also a high priest of a moon god, like Tsukiyo

>>52385268
>trying to NTR Shizuru
SHAMEFUR DISHPRAY!
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>>52385258
>Princess with any sort of connection to the moon or moon theme

>http://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Pulura
>Pulura, the mistress of the stars and the aurora, is an angel empyreal lord who was worshiped as a major deity in the lost Kellid realm of Sarkoris. The Sarkorians saw her and the demon lord Kostchtchie as dualistic gods of cold.
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>>52385349
>>52385292
Yeah, I'm sold. Gonna look for a punchy Numerian type to be an Oracle (Lunar Mystery/Wrecker Curse)/Warlord (Steelfist Commando).
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>>52385247
Basically, no Vancian casters unless they're Spheres Of Power casters.
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>>52385188
The "fighting evil by moonlight" kind, or the "being raised by commoners blessed with wealth from heaven" kind, or the "in hiding to protect her son from the cruel moon emperor" kind?
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>>52385399
I think you made the right choice.
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>>52385448
Fighting evil by moonlight is what I'm going for right now.
>>52385461
She's got a weapon and armor though. Not quite right, I'll keep looking.
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>>52385349

>mfw there is no Moon pact for Avowed
>mfw there is no Sun pact for Avowed
>mfw you can't sheath your blade in ethereal moonlight, or launch bolts of searing sunfire at your foes

Delete this.
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Is there any means to get the Fortified Casting boon without the Draining Casting Drawback?
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>Character is Ulfen
>He's a shapeshifter too
>Has likely gotten bored and fucked anything that's compatible
>Barmaids, farmgirls, dogs, horses, deer, etc.
>Is regarded as a trickster and untrustworthy

Goddammit an anonymous source has suggested that Rory is really just Loki End me now
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>>52385477
>>52385461
Ah wait, she will be wearing armor.
Maybe...
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Should women have armpit hair and hairy legs?
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>>52385533
>>52385477
Man, that was just a kellid qt to illustrate my point that it's a good choice generally. I wasn't even suggesting it as art. If it works, that's even better.
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>>52385559
Gross, no
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>>52385533
>not making a Vigilante
>not using the material from Legendary Vigilantes to have an extra-cool vigilante
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>>52385522
Waiting for you to do it yourself, boyo
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>>52385580
A gun barrel doesn't taste that good, anon.
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>>52385403
Oh...
Does anyone have Spheres of Power, I guess? It's as good a time as any to learn, I suppose.
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>>52385559

No.

They should however not shave the part that matters.
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>>52385592
http://spheresofpower.wikidot.com/using-spheres-of-power
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>>52382798
I think that was also the first stop and the other three stops before that one too.
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>>52385559

Armpit hair can work on pale, waifish women. If they have blonde or black hair and are conventionally very feminine.

It doesn't work except as a masculizing feature on any other type of female.

Hairy legs is almost universally a turn-off, but a blonde character could get away with it if they're very young. For the same reason as armpit hair: It's a sign of sexual maturity on a woman who may not show a lot of overt signs.
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Don't hide it from me /pfg/
Tell me aboutthat one character sheet gathering dust because no DM will ever allow it in his table
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>Some ass tainted spheresofpower wiki with fucking Gonzo SHIT

Literally unusable, getting flooded with Gonzo bullshit everytime I run a search.
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>>52385702
Ozodrin class never. Never ever, no matter how fitting it would be for Strange Aeons.
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>>52385702
Literally why? Just look at any application in any of the /pfg/ Roll 20 games.
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>>52385702

All of them.

I'm a perma-GM.
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>>52385702
Warder (Ordained Defender/Zweihanded Sentinel) 5/ Stalker (Bushi/Brutal Slayer) 2. Practiced Initiator. VMC Barbarian.
>>52385712
http://spheresofpower.wikidot.com/
If you're complaining about that, there are like, 50 pages total.
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>>52385702
all my DMs banned my golemcrafter wizard.

They'll allow a PoW one-shotting encounters, but they'll never allow a wizard with his own demiplane and an army of golems and a handful of spells to break WBL.
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>>52385702
I'm in the process of doing a whole slew of them right now, actually. Speaking of, my Chopper build last thread didn't get much notice since everyone was busy talking about shipping, but THIS bastard is probably one of the hardest to figure builds I'm probably going to have to figure out. Tell me anons, what can I POSSIBLY gestalt to make a swordsman who wants to Three-Weapon fight with a sword in his mouth (though I'll settle for Two-Weapon with the third sword flavored as a backup or something...), and also Whirlwinds his slashes so hard the cutting power goes flying into the wall across the room?
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>>52385722
>Just look at any application in any of the /pfg/ Roll 20 games.

>GMT+8
>no game for 8 months
>check roll20
>4 games in my timezone
>2 are pay to play
>the other is on indefinite hiatus
>the other is legit but has 3 available spots and 80 applicants.

KILL ME!
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>>52385614
This is already more thematically tight than normal shit. I like it. So all it does is slot into where spells and spell slots and shit would otherwise be on a 1pp class?

That's pretty swank.
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>>52385559
Depends on the country/province
I imagine Galtean women would indeed have hairy armpits and legs
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Tell me, /pfg/, do you think that Onryou shaves?
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>Body Pact
>This bonus to AC cannot exceed your class level

For what reason?
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>>52385783
Technically, Minotaurs can equip their horns with a tusk blade, treating it as a manufactured weapon.

Wyvarans and Kobolds can equip weapons on their tails.

Gripplis can use their tongue as a lethal whip if they have improved unarmed strike + PoW
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>>52385592
The full rulebook is in the trove in our pastebin
Would be listed either unde Spheres of Power, or Drop Dead Studios
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>>52385839

What's wrong with that?
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>>52385839
Were you not here for the original Self Pact?
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>>52385811
The conversion archetypes are kind of meh to shit though, you're almost always better off using an actual SoP that fits with maybe some refluffing.
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>>52385839
To prevent dipping.
>>52385811
Basically. You're getting spell points instead of spell slots, and talents instead of spells.
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>>52385825
>I imagine Galtean women would indeed have hairy armpits and legs

Same with River Kingdom women, probably.

Most of the north probably keeps things "natural."
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>>52385837
With that leotard? Yeah, probably. Gotta make sure you can look good in your combat clothes.
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>>52385702
Some silly stuff, really.

>Sohei 1/Empyreal Sorc 6/Eldritch Knight X/Sorc 3//Brutal Slayer Bushi Stalker 20

Nine levels of spells, nine levels of Initiating, STR+WIS to AC, and all sorts of other fun stuff
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>>52385844
Minotaur might work, lord knows Zoro ain't the smartest, speediest, or most charismatic person around. You think anyone would care if I refluff the gore as missing horns he's replaced with another sword?
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>>52385853
>>52385870
>Kicking unarmored fighting in the balls any harder than it already is.
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>>52385910
>level 20 builds

I don't understand why people do this.
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>>52385837

Seems necessary given her temperament, backstory and preferred clothes.

Girl's probably smooth as silk below the chin.
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>>52385919
For shits and giggles, anon. Just to see how crazy you can get.
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>>52385910
>dual progression is a gestalt thing now
How far has this game fallen. You used to be able to take a decent stab at triples WITHOUT gestalt.
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Tell me about your favorite Empyreal Lord /pfg/! Tell me about your favorite character who worships an Empyreal Lord.
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>>52385933
But what's the point if you'll never get to level 20 in a real game? You'll just be stuck there bitching about what might have been.
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>>52385858
Even Sphere Oracle?
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>>52385960
Until yesterday I thought Reymenda was Empyreal lord of abortions and dead babies.

To be fair, there's only one paragraph of info in the entire source that mentions her.
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>>52385990

She *is* the Empyreal Lord of abortions and dead babies.
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>>52385917
Nigga, it used to be capped at 3+Level and based off Cha with the ability to switch it to Str or Con via feat, but in the flurry of nerfs it got removed entirely, and now it's ONLY Str. Blame the obsession with trying to make sure you "can't be SAD", even though that shit is nonsensical as fuck.
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>>52385559

Towers are a peculiarity of most wizards. According to many female, earthy, druidic persons of an
unshaven armpits persuasion they are…

"Towering symbols of the lascivious thaumaturgical dominance of the wizardly profession expressed in
architectural form to compensate for their inadequacy and to express their believed supremacy over female Oriented earth magic."
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>>52385960
Andoletta is a cool one. I want to play a crow knight of Andoletta at some point.
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>>52386004
Bruh, SADness is shit game design.
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>>52385978
It's one of the better ones thanks to the extra spell points, but it's still pretty meh and boring. I guess if you really want to play an Oracle it's fine, I would just rather play a Hedgewitch with Black Magic traidition personally. Just stay away from the Sphere Magus.
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>>52386002
I mean, I suppose so, yeah. Her followers are adventurers make an oath to never have children so they may never be abandonned.
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>>52385960
My tiefling Fiendbound Marauder worships Falayna!
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>>52385960
Tanagaar. That celestial obedience is the shit!
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How do people like the new Roll20 sheets?
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>>52386018
>crow knight

Anon...
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>>52386002
Now that I reread it carefully, yeah, nothing prevents her from being the Empyreal lord of abortions and dead babies. It's simply that her followers vow to not have children, which can imply they used to have before and lost them as well.

Her domains aren't the worst, she's CG and she's got the Falchion as a favored weapon!
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>>52385962
Some people are just amused by how crazy high level Pathfinder gets.
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>>52386018
Get out you filthy Vilderavn!
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>>52382213
I played a silent samurai with the maid profession. Whenever we camped and had spare food, I would maker her cook everyone a meal.
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>>52386032
They already removed the Attack/Damage feats, they don't need to point and scream at "but they might be TOO SAD!" anymore. Blasters and "caster" avowed are basically SAD and nobody's throwing a stink about that.
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>>52385960
I want to play a Psychic who serves Chucaro.
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Does anyone have a link to the "Martially Inclined Casters may trade out casting for Spheres of Might" rule?
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>>52385960
RAGATHIEL VULT
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>>52386018
>crow knight

A likely story!
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>>52386284
>>52386135
>>52386108
I wanted a feather cape before those edgelords made it a meme.

Less Yuria of Londor, more Eileen.
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>>52386228
It was in the old, 3rd SoM preview. It's not in the current playtest because they're reviewing and maybe changing it and the feats for talents swap rule.
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>>52386245
>>52386284
This is a pretty dope pair of posts to scroll on by. Good job, /pfg/. You faggots.
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>>52386284
>tfw your party member drops his disguise and reveals he's actually a way powerful and badass humanoid monster with unique powers
>the only betrayal is that he wasn't using his abilities BEFORE now
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Where my Polish Lithuanian Dominatrices at??

When's Selection??
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>>52385783
Looking through PoW, it seems that Mithral Current might be my go-to for any "ranged" melee attacks, especially if I combine it with Lunge for extra distance. Now I just need to figure out what class that gets Mithral Current would work well for this character's general style of combat...
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>>52386284
>>52386018
>Crow Knight
Black Crow!

Greatsword/lance dual-weapon thing while riding around on a flying mount and in general being a giant badass. And apparently 4chan hates french words as it calls them spam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrcZV2a3KbI
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>>52386490
Whenever someone tells me Wakfu is a great show, I feel like I understand a bit more what the Japanese think of people watching anime.

Like, yeah it can be fun, but to us it's just a kid's show, which is a shame because I can't shake that off to just watch it casually.
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>>52386485
Warlord Bushi is almost surely your best option.
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>>52386527
>it's just a kid's show

Sure. Won't deny that's the target audience, but its still a reasonably well told story. I mean, Avatar was targeted at the ~10-14 audience as well but was still a thoroughly enjoyable ride even for some of the adults out there.

The difference with anime I think is that the target audience tends to be a lot older, not even necessarily in the "young adult" category, but as in fiction for what we'd consider college age, 20-25ish.
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>>52386527
>Like, yeah it can be fun, but to us it's just a kid's show
>implying that matters
SWAT Kats, Samurai Jack, Teen Titans, and Batman the Animated Series were all kid's shows. Doesn't stop them from being amazing
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>>52386590
>>52386613

Not saying that it's wrong to enjoy a kid's show, or that a kid's show can't tell a good story. I'm just a dumbie that lets social stigmas pull me down.
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>>52386527
The only thing keeping me from watching Wakfu is honestly the fact that French sounds completely ridiculous to me and I can't take it seriously, which is bizarre considering how I listen to moonspeak all the time and am not at all bothered by it.
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>>52386628
Not like any of your social socials are ever going to know about your heinous hobbies. Just because you're a degenerate doesn't mean you gotta look like one, you know?
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>>52386653
Depends on the VA for me.
There's a lot of Japanese shows I can't fucking stand because of the voices.
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>You can vital strike with the touch attack hitting Aether Blade all you want
>Not Aether Channel, though, this is haram

What did Forrest mean by this?
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>>52386675
>something about the avowed is clunky and nonsensical
>news at 11

the trick is to get a conducting weapon and then the chain of feats that let you double/triple unshaped aether pulse damage while moving
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>TFW I want to play a fun police oracle with the lame curse
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>>52386674
>There's a lot of Japanese shows I can't fucking stand because of the voices.

Not only, but there's a lot of Japanese shows I can't stand because the subject matter makes me cringe at the thought of those VA's saying them.

Monster Musume was unwatchable for that reason.
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>>52386541
You think this would work for a TWF build? Apparently there's also a feat from the Woodlands Monster Classes book that lets you wield weapons in your mouth, but whomever is keeping up with the Trove and pfsrd either haven't or can't keep up with releases because I'm just not finding the source for that...

>>52386653
To be fair I think part of that may be that French (like the French in Wakfu, this is part of why I personally couldn't watch it) is spoken SUPER fast, to the point where the English dub could never have not been garbage from the failed attempts to sync.
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>>52386653
Its probably because of the common latin root.

You can occasionally piece out words and their accents sound odd. Also 'voice acting' isn't a big career in the francophone community like it is in anglophone or japanese communities.

Which is why foreign language dubs / localizations of things can be so fucking garbage - eg german dubs.
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>>52386653
Well, the two languages do have really different diction for them.
Japanese tends to be rounder sounding, with short and terse consonants.

French tends to have a more "U" like sound ringworm vowels, and the consonants are softer and drag on a tad longer
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>>52386708
Like the opposite of the original Akira dub.
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>>52386710
>>52386715
Also smaller base of speakers from which to draw talent. Japanese gets around this by having a much more efficient method of finding talent, english gets around it by having everyone in the world speak it.

Other languages don't have those advantages.
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>>52386455
Already happened, you obviously didn't make it in
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Did anybody else get a PM from Vult a few minutes ago?
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>>52386763

No?
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>>52386763
Yea it said "fuck off and die"

What did he mean by this?
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>>52386708
>To be fair I think part of that may be that French (like the French in Wakfu, this is part of why I personally couldn't watch it) is spoken SUPER fast

If you think french is spoken fast, try chinese. Holy fuck that's a ridiculous language.

I like my relatively slow speaking english.
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>>52386763
low tier bait, obviously riding off >>52386745

Try harder
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>>52386763
Yeah, I'm pretty excited!

I got invited to the pre-selection discord!
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>>52386781
You're in, but your character got raped to death in absentia.
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>>52386781
>What did he mean by this?

Is PLD directed by Raimi?
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>>52386781
You must have applied with a male character
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>>52386781
>Yea it said "fuck off and die"
>
>What did he mean by this?
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I got in a game, /pfg/
Now I need pictures! Pictures of androids!
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>>52386828
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LOL Vult has been going nuts trying to figure out who's been badmouthing him in these threads ever since he started getting heat for PLD here in the threads, I've seen it almost every time someone talked bad about him in the Discord. If he PM'd that to you he probably thought you were someone submitting under false pretenses or was one of the people who dissed him.
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>>52386828
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>>52386845
If this were true, wouldn't he just be better off not saying... damning things in the Discord?
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>>52386828
I got you sempai
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>>52386845
lol tell me more about the hilarious antics of this guy man
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>>52386828
obligatory
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>>52386708
>You think this would work for a TWF build?
Sure. Warlord has all the TWF disciplines and Bushi lets you swap any one discipline for Mithral Current, the other part you need. I would choose Golden Lion, Zoro isn't known for his in-combat teamwork, and keeping Solar Wind would let you get Molten Silver Strike to boost your "ranged" Mithral Current attacks to simulate when he upgraded to bigger pound cannon attacks.
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>>52386828
do I hear post 2B pics? because I'm sure I heard post 2B pics!
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>>52386845
Why are you making things up? He canceled the game hours ago.
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This Vult dude is something else. You know he PMed me trying to hook up someplace for some seriously lewd 1 on 1 ERP sessions in a hotel room? It's pretty fucking scary.
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>>52386882
>implying the Commander isn't hotter
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>>52386828
2B is gonna be the new thing /pfg/ fetishizes after plain doll, isn't it?

I'm okay with this.png
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>>52386882
>2B pics
>not 9S pics
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>>52386909
I want toobie and doll to kiss
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>>52386909
Lies and Slander

Plain Doll a cute!
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>>52386897
Ill take "Shit that never happened" for 600, Alex
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>>52386897
I got so excited and showed up wearing nothing but a string bikini and a tail under my trench coat, and you know what? The laptop he left on the table was a fucking Macbook! AND I HAD TO PAY FOR THE ROOM.
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>>52386861
Attentionwhores can't help themselves. At this point, I can't be convinced that Vult isn't the culprit behind quite a few of the shitposts. To some people, any kind of attention is great.
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>>52386842
>>52386849
>>52386862
>>52386882
>>52386909
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>>52386763
>>52386781
>>52386845

The funny thing is that I've been staring him in the face and talking to him ALL THE TIME, and I've never had him say anything even remotely negative to me.

I think it's fairly obvious, but he doesn't seem to suspect a thing.

I'm one of the primary people who's been shitting on him, and he doesn't even know it.

It's DELICIOUS.
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>>52386924
This is why you don't ignore your kids when they're young. They'll do anything to make people care that they exist.

Hatred is just another kind of obsession, ya know?
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>>52386924
Especially because on /pfg/ shitposting begets more shitposting begets memery begets an inexplicable number of applications for a shit game.
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>>52386924

This. Vult seems to be up at all hours, all times of day, whining about posts about him on /tg/ seconds after they're posted here.

Engineer my ass, he's on discord ALL THE GODDAMN TIME.
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>>52386929
We need more qt T H I C C android waifus!
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>>52386936
No you haven't, I have! Fuck off, false flagger!
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PLD was a mistake.
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>>52386964

It really was.
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>>52386913
>not both
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>>52386955
Phoneposting, bro.
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>>52386970
I want a review anon to review the RotRK winners.
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What's the current underwear status of all the WWW characters?
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>>52386909
I don't even know how /pfg/ started waifuing the Doll
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>>52386982

Someone posted how you could totally make the Doll in Pathfinder using Android, and the meme stuck.
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>>52386964
>>52386970
I like it.
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>>52386964

/pfg/'s nadir.

How swiftly we reached it.
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>>52386980
DHB confirmed his character is going to wear Long Johns.
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>>52386973
>exhentai already has 8 translated /ss/ doujins with 2B and 9S

Based perverts working fast
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>>52386863
The dude has a serious issue with criticism. It's the same as when he was trying to push Aisha down the throat of every game he applied for, any time I saw his "baby" get nudged in a direction he didn't want to take that would make the build fit the setting better, he would go off like a tsundere but not cute.

Then he'd come crying to us on the Discord whenever y'all would call him out on his BS, knowing that if we started saying these things to his face he'd actually have an account to link to the "harassment". I'm fairly certain that the only reason I don't see him whining about us talking about him right now is because he's probably asleep at around this time, I never really see him post past an hour or two before now every night.
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>>52386980
Ancient history
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>people think I was kidding about the cancellation
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>>52386918
>>52386909
>All these shitty waifus
>not going for higher quality girls
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>>52386964
It's the sort of thing that only a fucking idiot wouldn't have seen as a mistake, too.

>I want to run my game about monster girls and rape!
>But I want people to take it seriously, and I'll get pissy if people try to subvert my setting at all!
>also I'm doing this on 4chan
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>>52387022
The Daimond Dogs were doomed from the start.
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>>52387005
>not going full Splatooncalypse
>not having dozens of doujins months before the game proper release
Tame.
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>>52387022
I genuinely thought it was a DEUS VULT game with monster girls and rape, as opposed to a monster girls and rape game with DEUS VULT.
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>>52386878
Well that works, one half of the gestalt down and one to go, you think I should just go straight Fighter for all the feats in the world?

Also does anyone have the Monster Classes: Woodlands book, or at least the listing for the Mouth Manipulator Feat?
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>>52387014
wtf I hate vult now.
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>>52387031
I wasn't even thinking about the diamond dogs, more YOU'RE DOING TOME MANIFESTATIONS WRONG REEEEEEE.
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This is a hell of your own creation /pfg/

You think I'm a real DM?

I'm a manifestation of everything wrong with this general.

The frustration, the resentment, the need to play a terrible, broken game because it fills the empty hours in your day when you don't have a group, and all of it burning your sexual frustration as fuel.

There is no escaping this until the whole thing burns down.
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>>52387014

I can't actually find this.

Did he PM this to you?

INCREASE THE SIZE OF THOSE LOGS

>>52387006
>>52387022
>>52387031

pic related: Who'd have known, considering he's running a game about raping people?
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PLD Thread Theme:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqseYiGA0us
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NEW THREAD
>>52387051

>>52387051

>>52387051
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>>52387006
Speaking of criticism is it true that DHB is a huge asshat when his homebrew gets criticized and will just ignore/deflect stuff? People were talking about it when he brought up his Avowed rip off.
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>>52387048
So you're a shadow, the true self?
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>>52387055
Bro we're still on page 3 nobody is going to go there.
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>>52387055

t. Vult
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>>52386094
I stopped using that because there was a period when roll20 got buggy and all sheet access and functionality stops working.

These days I write and keep my macros on excel and use mythweavers to keep track of things but that may change too as mythweavers has proven to be unreliable.
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>>52387068
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpzbr3vCBjw
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>>52387083
No, Vult's a fag. It would have been 9S in a dress.
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>>52387060
DHB's greatest fault when it comes to criticism of his homebrew is that he autistically has to keep responding to comments on it, even if it's obvious bait.
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>>52387060
If anything I think he takes criticism and suggestions far too easily. I think DHB has a better head on his shoulders for this shit than most of the general but I think he takes any meme as a fact on what he should do about his stuff.
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>>52387060
He's good when it's actual criticism.
He even tries to address criticism that is obviously shitposting like that one faggots who just kep screaming "Oh Em Gee! Teh Nayrutos!"
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>>52387098

Are you sure?
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>>52387031
What the fuck is a Diamond Dog?
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>>52387124
>not posting the part where he got depressed over the lack of traps
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>>52387048
>>52387060
Stop bullying. No one likes witchhunt anon.
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>>52382213
So I'm pretty new to Pathfinder and in my next game I've decided to play a Shaman. How do you shaman good?
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>>52387128
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>>52387140
I think that's the one class almost nobody ever talks about here unless it's to complain about the Iconic.
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>>52387128
A diamond dozen in a doggy dog world.
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>>52387132

Oooh, share!

>>52387137

We fucking love witchhunting meme people who can't put their identities away in the face of being told how much they suck, are you kidding me?

It's literally just Vult and ironically, puellareview who hate them.

Go onto the discord and look up puellareview: They are the loudest voice in defense of 2hu at all times, and claim to be a good friend of his.
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>>52387173
You're a nutbag, go fuck off back in time to the 4e generals you putz.
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>>52387173
It's in the discord. Anyone can join.
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>>52387140
Prioritize Wis, then Cha because the devs are retarded.

After that, it depends on what role you want. Depending on what Spirits you choose, you can fulfill different party roles.

After that, it's all about spell selection and playing like any other 9th caster.

Also, don't forget to look into Improved Familiars and Familiar Archetypes.
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>>52387151
Well shit

>>52387190
I wanted to take a support role, and thanks I'll look into those. But I don't get why Cha, I might not have been reading the class details enough but I can't find anything specific regarding Cha (except one hex).
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>>52387140
It's a Witch, but better.
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>>52387255
Nearly all your Spirit Hexes and Spirit Abilities revolve around Cha.
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>>52387263
Is it better? I remember hearing a lot of complaints about Shaman being bad. Well, not bad, but just not very functional.
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>>52387283
Ah right. I skimmed those cause I wanted to look back at them after getting advice. Wis/Cha, weird build.
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>>52387299
From a raw abilities and options standpoint, it's better
From a spell list and equality of abilities standpoint, as well as needing both Wis and Cha to function, and stepping on the toes of both Oracle and Witch, it's a mess

Really, its best described as a Wis Oracle who can trade and move stuff around for Witch powers, and a lamer spell list.

If you can build an Oracle, and maybe can also build a Witch, you can build a Shaman
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>>52387329
Now, some if the later Spirits, such as Wood, are not Cha reliant. So keep that under your hat
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>>52385597
Yeah, long hair is better than bald chicks.

Hair on the head, not on the lips.
Not in the pits, not on the tits.
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>>52387345
Got it. So which spirits are best for support? I was told to keep healing for emergencies and out of combat so I'm guessing buffs/damage prevention is best?
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>>52387464
Yes, Healing is best done outbid combat with a Wand of Cure Light Wounds, though Life Spirit is /decent/ at it.
For support, you can do the usual witch hex combos, but with Chant rather than Cackle.

Witch Doctor and Animist archetypes are good at support as well.

For Spirits, Ancestor and Wind have the most options, but not by much. Shamans dontnreally have as much non-spell support as Oracles do, they tend to be more built around offense or personal buffing
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>>52387464
Oh, and don't forget, choose your Wandering Spirit wisely each day, and pick it for what is best for your surrounding or scenario.>>52387464
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I recently heard someone complain that sphere clerics and sphere druids were too strong, because they have full-CL and mid-BAB. Is this a common complaint? Because I'm not seeing it...
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>>52387669
whats the difference? full CL and 3/4 BAB is also what makes vancian clerics and druids OP
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>>52387708
The argument I heard was the wizards got a better spell list than clerics and druids, but had worse everything else to compensate, but with spheres, that restriction no longer exists.
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>>52387606
I'm just gonna go the default archetype. Miiiight go Witch Doctor depending on the party comp.

>>52387663
Will do. It's just like preparing spells, pick what matches the day.
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>>52387743
To be fair, Clerics and Druids shouldn't have had 3/4 BAB to start with anyway. Even with their 'worse spell lists', they're fucking 9th level casters, they shouldn't get shit for BAB.

Similarly in Spheres, I don't think anyone gets full CL and 3/4 BAB aside from the conversions?
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>>52387861
>Similarly in Spheres, I don't think anyone gets full CL and 3/4 BAB aside from the conversions?

Just the conversions and the thaumaturge, though the latter only gets half as many talents.
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>>52387861
>Similarly in Spheres, I don't think anyone gets full CL and 3/4 BAB aside from the conversions?
Wrong, Thamaturge does.
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>>52387873
Yeah, Thaum gets butts for Talents, and their biggest class feature can seriously dick them over.
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>>52387895
>their biggest class feature can seriously dick them over.
Until you hit level 7 then you can just pass the penalties on your poor familiar like some sort of terrible voodoo doll.
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What would you think about a class where you play a magical beast, and you get a scaling companion who's a humanoid warrior type?
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>>52388651
I'd say don't limit it to just magical beasts, but that's about my only complaint.

After all some people wanna play the little girl in love
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>>52388651
Could you do that with Shifter transformation sphere + leadership?
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>>52388819
But then you aren't actually the magical beast, you're just imitating one.

>>52388792
What else are you thinking of?
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>>52387185
How?
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