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>Join 5e game with custom setting
>Every NPC we meet for the first 5 sessions tries to kill us, or is implied to be interested in killing us
>Kill them first
>DM complains
>"You never tried to talk to them"
>Sorry I'm not the talkative sort when somebody puts an arrow in my leg.
>First "friendly" NPC we meet runs away from us
>And promptly leads bandits onto us.
>Second friendly NPC hangs out with us for a bit
>Then leads those same bandits back onto us
>Custom currency chart
>It's wrong the first time we trade
>DM laughs at us for getting ripped off when we barely understand this custom currency as is, and the chart is wrong at that.
>DM rules that my spell doesn't function how it mechanically should because that's not "flavorful"
>DM rules that one small race would get 3d6 drop the lowest stat rolls, but no others would, because fuck you basically.

I can elaborate on some of these, but I've told them before.

>>52309924
previous thread for everyone who missed it

>>52362602
>3d6 drop the lowest stat rolls

so max 12? or did you forget something?

>>52362965
Nope. That's exactly correct. Other races all get 4d6 drop the lowest, but this race would get 3d6 drop the lowest.

I suspect he just didn't want to tell me no.

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>>52363017

was it Kender?

>>52363051
It was a kobold

Goblins didn't get the same treatment, so it wasn't just an issue of the race usually being weak grind mobs, regardless of that being my DM's reason.

Either way, I dropped it when I realized he wouldn't budge.

>>52362414
>that guy plays a dragonborn barbarian
>specializes in grappling
>uses his powers of grappling and wrestling to beat many a foe
>one night party coming back to inn after dungeon delving
>that guy goes with sorceress and rest near the fire since it's cold out
>that guy starts flirting with her
>she doesn't reciprocate the feelings and shoots him down
>he suddenly grabs her and rolls grapple checks
>she loses
>He rolls to pin
>succeeds
>says he wants to cuddle with her near the fireplace
>everyones just kind of like "what the fuck" at this point
>he asks the DM if he can fade to black
>sorceress player gets up, packs her shit, splashes her drink on that guy's face and leaves
>that guy has the audacity to yell out "Nice ass!" as she's walking away
>that guy sends me a text later that night asking if I want to leave our DM's game and join one that he'd run because the DM gave him the boot for that.

>>52363128
I can see why he would think that was funny but that's the kind of joke you can only really make around close friends. Just bad taste.

The "Nice ass!" comment is kinda inexcusable though.
Also the Sorceress might have overreacted entirely...

I dunno you all sound like you handled it poorly.

>that GM wants to run a game at UNI for pubs
>his girlfriend/wife is there
>be 1st level fighter, monk, wizard, druid, ranger, and that-GM's wife a 3rd level "Soul Hunter"
>"what the fuck is a soul hunter"
>homebrew class that specializes in scythes and gets bonuses to attack/damage/saves every time they kill something, and they can "hunt" souls to inherit their powers (ie if the soul hunter kills a balor they can inherit the death throes power for a number of days equal to the creature's hit dice.)
>wandering outside of town
>come across a pack of kobolds worshipping a red dragon
>in the middle of the road
>naturally we dont want to fuck with this thing, but special snowflake steps forward and starts talking shit
>dragon tells kobolds to stand back, will one on one this fight
>dragon attacks with fire breath
>soul hunter spins her scythe like a windmill and blocks the entire attack
>she warp strikes up and crits on a nat 11 for 8d6 damage
>oh by the way soul hunter scythes get vorpal at 1st level because of their dedication and precision to hunting souls
>instantly killed the dragon
>suddenly skies darken
>dragon's backup posse, several more dragons, arrives
>she uses her "once per day supermove" to summon forth a giant skeletal lich and fuse with it as if it were a jaeger from pacific rim
>proceeds to "Soul Burst" and "Soul Drive" the dragons down effortlessly
>she immediately gets awarded hundreds of thousands of dragon horde treasure
>doesn't split it with us because she solo'd the encounter
>we dont get XP because we didnt attack
>at this point we're already calling it quits and leaving
>dm's girlfriend gets mad and gets up to try to block us from leaving saying that we need to play it through and quit being a bunch of sore flakes
>accidentally trips on something as she's getting up
>hits the table and breaks it in half
>registers at least a magnitude 4 earthquake on the richter scale because she is a goddamn ham planet.
Fuck you, Danielle Bequeath.

>>52363195
Idk i think that's a pretty uncool thing to do and he deserved to get kicked.

Rapey players aren't funny.

You sound like that guy.

>>52362414
We had a DM who used a monopoly board as our dungeon. We would roll to see how many moves we'd make as "progress through the dungeon".

Encounters were based on the properties, landing on chance resulted in a random trap or a boon, railroads were minibosses, free space was a resting spot, community chest was guaranteed treasure, Jail was a dead-end until you were freed by someone landing on it without being sent there, and go-to-jail was a trap that pretty much took you out of the game unless someone went back to save you. If you got back to Go you'd have to wait until other players got there to help in the final boss fight, or you could try to solo it but it might as well have been a fucking WoW raid boss because it was so spongy as fuck for damage.

>>52363242
I said it was an uncool thing to do. If it was just meant as a joke then it was only a tactless joke and maybe take him aside and talk it out.

If I removed someone from my life every time they made an off color joke I would have no friends in the world.

Now if he was really just a creepy rapist guy who you were all playing with I suppose you were just a bad judge of character to let it go on so long.

>>52363297
That sounds amazing, how is he a That DM?

>>52362414
>that guy who reads the modules that you're going to run
>that guy who cuts you off in the middle of explaining the room to tell you you're wrong about the details of this room
>that guy who gets defensive when you ask him if he's been reading the modules and metagaming
>that guy who screeches autistically when you tell him that he doesn't have to go home but he can't stay at this table anymore
>that guy who has to pay for the repairs to your car because he was so mad he came and keyd your car and forgot you have security cameras outside
>that guy who has to get a fucking job to pay for the damage and cant sit around playing Destiny all day anymore

>>52363313
He thought thimble deserved to die.

but we all had a pretty good time anyway.

RICH BURFEW the RPG ... on ICE!

CHAPTER ONE:
Rich barfoo was sitting h him he was IN HIS HOUSE! and then he said "ohe i can make a web comic and make it really exsiting and entertainting and try to SHILL! my comic and make jewgold"
then him didnt make the comic regularly
"I HAVE A JOB" he told people
"I HAVE KICKSTARTER BACKER STUFF" he excuse
"I AM WORKING AS THREE FOLD FRONTIER" he blamed
but him was a shitty author and a shitty webcomic and him dident weiss the money and spent it all on shitty stupid stuff cuz hes a fuckin homo

BUT THEN!

one day rimch buirfew was making hims webcomic when THUNT approach him and said "Us Artists, huh?" and tried to hit it off whith him becuase theym both doing dungorb and dregerms comic.
after a brief bit of bill clinton sex they were both determined (not like undertale determination) but them both make a webcomic about lulz and drama
"Im sad" thunt said and ronnie buffalo hugged him and said "i know"
they then created ww.willsaveworldforgold and make them comics about pixel and sprite
BUT THEN! DRAGONTAMER OF LEGENDARY PIXEL CREW SAID "no" AND HIM STARTED A WAR ON 4CHIMPS

the moral of the sttory is
fuck u

>>52363239
It's too bad this is fake, because that would've been hilarious.

>>52363458
Well, to be fair I have no way to prove this happened to a bunch of anonymous strangers on the internet, but at the same time I have to ask you why an anonymous person on the internet would forge falsehoods to another anonymous person on the internet.
--
Just got my creepy stalker on and scouted around the internet, she hasn't posted on twitter since october, and looks like she axed her linkedin and facebook.

Here's a bit of a fucking gem though: https://www.youtube.com/user/speedysweetheart/videos

Not exactly That Guy, but

>3.PF
>be me, playing a level 8 Sorcerer (Blaster)
>Party members include Fighter, Monk, Cleric
>Encounter on a pirate ship
>Take note that a single Fireball spell hits the majority of the ship's deck
>Monk rushes the captain
>I hold my action until after the pirates move
>Most of them congregate in the middle
>Cast Empowered Fireball, instantly take out 14/20 pirates
>Monk gets angry
>He says, "This is bullshit, how can you do this?"
>Me, "I have a moderately optimized Sorcerer"
>Him, "That shouldn't happen! My monk should be way better than you!"
>DM, "Look, you were the one who wanted to play one of the worst classes"
>Queue half an hour argument about class imbalance between me + DM vs. Monk
>Agree to disagree
>Now Monk is just passive aggressive
>Can't even mention any of 3.PF problems because it'll spark a new argument

I want to keep playing, and I enjoy the system in spite of its flaws, but this guy and his idiocy is just frustrating. I'm tempted to make an optimized Cleric or Wizard just to show him how imbalanced his precious system can be, but that would be a That Guy move. I want to keep playing, but Monk is getting more irritating. So, I havr to put up with it and play while censoring myself (he's the DM's ride so can't kick him out) or excuse myself. Wut do?

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>>52363348
That's goddamn grade A+ delicious, friendo.

>>52363627
>that channel
of fucking course she's a vapecunt

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>>52363627

>Someone is in a relationship with her

>>52363737

Did he ever explain WHY his monk should be better?

>>52363737
Optimize his character. 3.5 has a ton of levers to make monks quite good. Hopefully PF has them as well.

>>52363627
"Cloud Practice"
Holy shit anon...
I believe now.

>>52363809
I don't think so. He mostly kept going on about puny mages and how if he ever fought me in game, i would be dead before I even cast a spell.

>>52363834
Ooh, that could be an option. I'll talk with him and the DM to see if this can work. I mean, I just want all of us to have fun, And I didn't really realize I was stepping into this kind of low- tiered group. So i made a Blaster in the hopes of fitting right in to the usual power level I like at the table (decently powered and optomized, but not Batman Cleric level) and ended up with the best character at the table.

I'll talk with them next week and see if the DM and I can help them remake more optimized characters, and if not, I'll just make a new one more on their level.

>>52363737
Maybe provide him with some examples of imbalance when you're not playing. Be sure to also keep an open mind and listen to his arguments and what he's saying. Also try to distance the fact that its about your character and his character you have a beef with.

>>52363899
Another alternative is simply giving the weaker classes more levels. It doesn't really fix things, but it helps mitigate the feeling of being in a shitty class.

Are you able to use 3.5 rules? If so, I've spent enough time on 3.5 monks to optimize them about as much as the system will allow for. They're my favorite class because of how challenging it is to get them to function passably.

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>>52363440

>>52363627
Well shit, you actually delivered something. I'm retracting my statement then.

>>52363128
That's when you tell someone to get the fuck out of your house.

>>52363348
Why do people invite actual autists to their tables?

>>52364826
The problem with autists is that a lot of them can pass for "Just a little weird" for short periods of time, and a lot of people are willing to take the chance on a guy who might actually just be a little weird.

Couple that with the fact that a lot of us are functioning autists ourselves, and so have a shit time reading people.

>>52363866
>shitty webcam
>out of focus
>vaping
>"practicing" vaping
>is whale

Holy shit man. I can finally believe.

>>52363737
Suicide and play a soldier for once

>>52364900
I've known 2 people with aspergers and one is a good friend the other showed me his porn folder in the middle of lunch in campus, but both cases I spent enough time to know what type of person they were. Unless you are doing random PUGs why would you:

1. Invite them to a social game that can become very emotional provided the right circumstances.

2. Invite them to your house instead of a public place.

Maybe I'm just jaded, distrustful and antisocial but it feels like poor planing.

>>52364826
The sperglords are adept at hiding their true nature until it's time for them to strike, anon. You can never know for sure, only the Chris-chan tier ones can be spotted on sight.

>>52363627
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QauCQcPN7SM
/tg/ related

>>52363367
>He thought Thimble deserved to die
I'm glad, Thimble armies were broken as hell.

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>>52365599

>>52364143
gorsh

>>52365783
Fuck you, wagonfaggot. Learn to play your army.

>>52363239
You should have attacked

>>52363239
Sad part is, that Soul Hunter class sounds pretty legit if it were balanced. Do you happen to know anything else about it other than the bullshit you mentioned?

>gm cthulhu 7ed
>one guy wants to be some sort of noble snob
>okay but the scenario is 90s so your house is either insignificant or you're crazy
>he goes for insignificant
>still plays his character like a medieval king
>seperates himself from the group which complicates my narrative and makes group roleplaying supremely difficult
>wants to shoot npcs whenever possible even though his character is not listed as aggressive in his character sheet
>politely remind him that if he wanted to play a murderhobo he should have said so beforehand
>in the end have to let him be before he throws a hissy fit
>second session
>first chance he wants his character (whos tired and hungry as fuck) to flee the city and go to newzealand (we were playing in east coast england)
>i have no idea how to handle that and i didn't want to railroad him so i just tell him ooc that this would ruin the adventure
>after half an hour of arguing he agrees
>then continues to annoy me with how we should be getting armorpiercing and hollowpoint rounds
>i tell him there's no ammo types in the rules
>he doesn't stop annoying me
>eventually i just double the amount of ghouls to kill the majority of the party and to end my suffering

Honestly not sure if im that guy or if he is the one at fault

>>52367477
He was being a prick but you're also at fault for cheap killing (most of) the party. Instead of trying to just get his character killed (and ending up with other players caught in the crossfire) the best thing would've been to just calmy tell him to stop fucking pestering you or he's getting kicked out of the session and then the game if he keeps it up next time.

>>52367859
To be fair it was late at night and one guy had to leave

I'm pretty sour that one guy who actually roleplayed decently - he controlled himself and an npc got killed

Himself and Professor D. we're pretty good characters. I might resurrect D.s head and make him part of a plot in the future i dunno

>Playing Werewolf the Apocalypse
>I am a Ragabash Glass Walker, friend to the human city folk, around 30 years old. pretty average character
>That Guy is playing a 15 year old boy Philodox something or other, with like 5 dots in a Pure Breed background
>we're in Central Park, discussing the disappearance of a recent high ranking Glass Walker
>SUDDENLY
>a group of Uktena are engaging in some mystical ritual centered on some magic device that is making them float in the air and causing all sorts of magical energy
>in mid-morning Central Park in modern day
>i learned later that they were bonding as a pack through this ritual or some nonsense like that
>other PCs run to save the Uktena, thinking they're in danger
>I hang back, character is not one for running into the unknown willy-nilly
>Other PCs and DMPC end up sealed as a pack due to ritual, I'm just hanging with them wondering what happened
>That Guy ends up as pack leader apparently
>go to building where disappeared Glass Walker lived
>as Ragabash Glass Walker, I am adept at speaking with and lying to people, especially humans like the doorman out front
>go to him, begin telling story/creating reason why I should be allowed in
>new to the system so not sure what to roll if anything, That GM doesn't help in any way
>finally figure out to investigate the guy for clues, find a Glass Walker tattoo - he's related to or knows someone in the tribe
>think I've got this, secretly tell him I'm one of them as well
>still nothing, no entry, get the fuck out sir
>That Guy walks up, rolls some skills without asking, not sure how but That GM says okay you all can go in
>whyamihere.jpg
>go to apartment, search around, plot shit
>DMPC comes at me for some reason, doesn't like my tribe
>hits me, suddenly MAGICAL EXPLOSION
>now I've magically taken his place in the pack because GM can't figure out how to make sure I stay on his rails

I didn't come back for session 2. That Guy/That GM double-combo was enough for me.

>>52367983
>>hits me, suddenly MAGICAL EXPLOSION
>>now I've magically taken his place in the pack
Dude what

>>52368019
I wish I was kidding. In character, I rightfully thought he had attacked me and went to the caern leaders to raise hell.

They told me oh it's no big deal, you're in their pack now, just go with it, what are you talking about when you say railroad?

I had played Vampire with the same GM and similar shit had happened to the PCs but that was kind of the last straw for me

>>52368047
How do people even railroad in Vampire

Aren't you compelled to do quests because the world is about to end or because some cammie dominates the shit out of you?
Protecting the masquerade would also be a thing a gm could use so i dont know how you'd even come into a railroad situation

>>52365126
You can also smell them sometimes, like Luke.

>>52368175
For the time I played, it went kinda like this

>DMPC appears
>hey do this quest/find this thing for me
>I ask, but why?
>DMPC gives answer
>my character probably wouldn't, or the plot hook you're throwing doesn't make a lot of sense, i start to say so
>DMPC showcases some massive OP power level that he'll use to destroy me if I don't go along
>either that or threatens to diablerize my character, which he did to another PC when they missed a session
>I follow the DMPC for two sessions as they solve problems and I kinda maybe do a thing here and there?

This GM loved his DMPCs, he had several in both games. In Vampire, it was some special snowflake Lasombra or something.

To be fair, the GM is bipolar and struggles with it a lot, and can't keep a lot of thoughts straight in his head very long. That's why we never had any combat. In these games, I played about 2 sessions of the Vampire game before he wanted to switch to Werewolf. Gave him 1 session on that and then decided to nope outta there and play other games. Last I heard he's trying Mage now, so good luck to him

>>52363786
And was ready to alienate friends with a Mary Sue Story to get some from her.
That guy is desperate indeed.

>>52363627
Probably a case of serious escapeism for her; to be someone people can look at for more than 5 seconds. Just because the minis gravitate towards you, does not mean you are the only player at the table.

>>52368264
He could have just made his DMPCs princes or barons who rule the domain you happen to be living in
Instead he has to force his terrible npc backstories on other people i guess

>>52367477
>He wants to flee from the adventure

Why do players do this? Seriously they can create backgrounds all they want, but the one thing that is required is to find some sort of reason to actually participate in the adventure. Why even come when you don't want to play?

>>52368369
He said that it would be logical for his character to run away due to survival instincts whateverthefuck and ooc told me that i had to dmbullshit him to keep his character in the game

I'm gonna be honest something inside of me really wanted to leave the house during that discussion. I don't want to force my players to keep playing and i don't want to be the antagonist. I want to tell a somewhat interesting story thats fun for everyone involved

At the end of the session he was trying to metagame out of me if the ghouls were going to kill them and at that point i was just like fuck it lets end it right here

>>52363128
Why did the dm let it get as far as it did?

>>52367477
same guy here

Anybody got tips to rein this player in?
In the past hes often played powergamey characters and last session he just made his antisocial character into an aggressive leaderfigure for some reason

I think i want him to make a character thats indebted to another players character so he takes up less space in my games but im not sure

Any suggestions?

>>52368644
Tell him to stop being a shitty player or fuck off

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>it's a "DM's girlfriend prevents him from starting the game and we have to postpone" episode

>>52368369

I think if you're new to RPGs maybe you just think its funny and crazy, but then don't have experience and empathy to realize how that's a dick move.

If someone has a lot of familiarity with RPGs and does this its cause they're a fucking cunt.

>>52369420
The thing that made this really annoying for me is that i planned out a 6 page adventure for them

The only thing that was required was that they didn't flee from the city.

In the end we could only do half of what i had planned because i was forced into the ooc discussion.

The bad thing was that they really had a reason to not flee the city.
They have been running from a cult and haven't slept in days. They also haven't eaten in days.

I was sure that was enough of a motivation (motivation for the first session was that papa Nyarlathotep kidnapped their fucking family and destroyed where they were working to get cult things happening)

I honestly thought that was enough dm fuckery for the adventure but apparently that player expected me to go further

>>52369539
not adventure but 6 page plot for that session
plot for first session was 3 pages

>>52369420
I notice that it's ALWAYS obsessive video game players who do this shit. They don't understand how to act reasonably and in character because the video game RPGs they've rotted their brains with did all of the hard work of keeping a setting consistent and characterization semi-stable for them. The second you put them in a world without boundaries, it's like sending a nice Catholic schoolgirl to a co-ed dorm.

Another thing video game players always do is try to kill people for no real reason.

>>52369681
>I notice that it's ALWAYS obsessive video game players who do this shit. They don't understand how to act reasonably and in character because the video game RPGs they've rotted their brains with did all of the hard work of keeping a setting consistent and characterization semi-stable for them. The second you put them in a world without boundaries, it's like sending a nice Catholic schoolgirl to a co-ed dorm.

This.
They think my brain is an endless fountain of ideas and stories and fail to realize im just a guy with limited patience who wants to play some RPGs

Also the same guy wants me to fucking create an open world for cthulhu like is he crazy or some crap

>>52368444

You should have let his character leave, and then said "Well, I guess the session is over. Thanks for playing everyone." and then left.

Later, you could have organized with the other players to play another game without him. Possibly even continuing where you left off.

>>52370053
One problem: We were playing in his house and he provided the snacks.

Next session im gonna try to find a place to host to have phat bargaining power and to assert dominance over my players

>>52370165

It's not a matter of dominance or anything like that. He basically wasted your time, and the other player's time.

If he didn't want to play, he should have said so, rather than wasting everyone's time like an asshole.

>>52370202
He wasted more of my time than the time of the other players

A big chunk of my plot got fucked and i spent a couple of days preparing everything and organizing everything

I'm still pretty bummed he fucked my like that

>>52363128
Sorry to say this but the Girl was the one in the wrong there. All he did was make a dumb joke and use one of his skills in the Game. She actually psychically assaulted him. She is the one who should have been kicked.

>>52370292
>splashing water on ones face is physical assault

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>>52368644
>Any suggestions?
I feel cheesy because at this point I'm posting this in some thread nearly every day...

But have them read pic related.
The problem last time was that he broke rule 5: Don't be an ass.

Perhaps seeing that others have actually codified how to avoid acting like him might convince him.
Or there's always the boot.

>>52370311
Yes it is and sexually grappling someones imaginary persona is not.

>>52370311
No, it's psychic assault, can't you read? That's much worse.

>>52370341
Fucking psychics need to get the fuck out of my games.

>>52370324
You might want to read up the definition of assault im sure water splashing isn't included
>>52370313
Maybe thats something i should have checked before the game

Try to smell out if hes trying to fuck me over by creating a lolsorandom character

If hes playing in another session - and im actually willing to gm one - im gonna try to make sure the other players have characters that hes connected with.

Like if hes indepted to one guys pc he pretty much has to follow him

Also im doing delta green stuff next session so i hope that helps
>>52370341
lol

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>>52370311
>>52370324
>>52370369

>>52370369
>>52370324
>>52370311
>>splashing water on ones face is physical assault
Throwing your drink in someone's face is actually assault.
Calling the cops over it is likely to piss off the cops for wasting their time, though.
Might get a ticket at worst.
Unless you "assaulted" a cop.

>>52370292
>Sorry to say this but the Girl was the one in the wrong there. All he did was make a dumb joke and use one of his skills in the Game. She actually psychically assaulted him. She is the one who should have been kicked.
But this guy is almost certainly wrong.
Be a dick, get assaulted with beverage.
The context matters, I wasn't there, and I can imagine a scenario where she was being oversensitive and he was being jovial, but the comment on the way out sounds like he was provoking her and an asshole.

>>52363348
sorry about your car, anon

at least you know that person is an autist, i guess?

>New GM, never ran a game before, still pretty new to the system (3.5)
>Group consists of: Me, two of GM's non-trpg-playing friends, a quiet unassuming dude, and a 'Rules Assistant/D&D EXPERT' who is helping GM with the game. Me and the Rules Assistant are the only people who know a lot about the game.
>I roll a simple warlock, consider delving into wizardry later on
>Other players roll a drow rogue, human duskblade, minotaur warrior
>Assistant rolls an 'eleti' (Some kind of undead space construct, I don't know.) 'necromancer' (A homebrew who has all arcane and divine necromancy spells), and a horrendously OP staff of some kind,
>Assistant Assures the GM that 'don't worry, I won't use it' and about how the WIZARDS OF THE COAST examined his sheet and officially okayed it
>Tell him and the GM that it's bullshit, get ignored.
>Go on quest to save a bunch of kids from drow, drow apparently have some kind of dark ritual
>Eleti summons undead from absolutely nothing, citing third-party spells and shit from books that later took me three hours to find if it even existed, has an entire army following him despite being level 1
>Entire time I'm asking about spells he's using, because the 'Doom' I know doesn't instantly kill people. He backs off immediately when I do that
>We find the kids, Eleti then tortures the drow priestess by raping her with a bone dildo.
>I say I'm tired, ragequit for the session.

That was just the start. The guy triggered me pretty bad, so I probably was being at least a little 'That guy' when I called him out on rules details.
>Level, start doing more damage, grab a few interesting fiendish feats that stack on eachother
>Keep calling the Assistant out on shit
>He gets pissed, and later convinces the GM that my fiendish feats will BREAK THE GAME
>But luckily, he has a good idea to stop me from being able to use them!
>I end up cursed with a magical ring that changes my alignment
>now can't use warlock spells or any abilities at all.

>>52370525
>>>splashing water on ones face is physical assault
>Throwing your drink in someone's face is actually assault.
>Calling the cops over it is likely to piss off the cops for wasting their time, though.
>Might get a ticket at worst.
>Unless you "assaulted" a cop.
I mean honestly who gives a shit what is and what isn't assault

If people aren't getting along at the table they ought to get away from each other

In this case the dude started shit at the table and the gm shoulda kicked him out then and there

>>52370605
>and a 'Rules Assistant/D&D EXPERT'
oh boy

>>52363128
Guy should've made sure the girl was OK with it. IC, basically the only way this can be resolved if she isn't is either her character or his leaves the party. Why would she agree to go out into the woods with a guy that just tried to "forcibly cuddle" her, and why would anyone else in the party believe this is appropriate?

>>52370656
I mean if theres females at the table and people flirt with their characters isn't the flirting often directed at the females themselves?

When i play female characters i usually don't get raped

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>>52368264
>NPCs who can influence PCs are DMPCs
whew
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>>52368644
Let him go to NZ. Organise the other players to gather for your next session, continue playing without him - he's in NZ, after all, retired to a sheep farm or some shit.

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>>52370610
>I mean honestly who gives a shit what is and what isn't assault
>implying autisticly defining the truth of posts isn't the /tg/ way

>If people aren't getting along at the table they ought to get away from each other
Truth

>In this case the dude started shit at the table and the gm shoulda kicked him out then and there
>>52368464
>the dm let it get as far as it did
More truth.
I wouldn't have acknowledge the grapple roll, myself.
But that's my game.

>>52370605
>Despite identifying the ring and trying remove curse, nothing works
>Apparently it can only be lifted by a list of magical monster parts. Such as, for example, pit fiend fangs, archlich fingers... You know, stuff my level 3 warlock won't really get, especially when he can't use his class features

I whined a bit, and started rerolling, but then the GM said I could get act as a warmage my level until the curse could be broken. They seemed excited about this 'epic' quest. There's not much I could do, so I just shrugged and tried out the warmage. With 11 int.

>Sessions later, GM messages me late at night
>Having trouble challenging party, not sure how to because of infinite undead army
>Doesn't really understand how spells work
>I end up statting up a boss-level drow priestess, complete with lists of prepared spells and spell descriptions. Anti-undead buffing and blasting cleric
>Even spent a feat on leadership so the fight could involve a bunch of first-level minions
>Give GM neat nice little booklet for them to use, complete with 'use X spell when Y is happening!'

Later, during the session
>Eleti starts getting upset because we're passing notes, as I'm essentially playing the cleric against the players through GM
>Not like my actual PC could do much
>Eleti's army is all Rebuked and Commanded against him, attacking their once master

>Still raging, That Guy is getting more bugged because his undead should be immune to being turned because of REASONS.
>That Guy snaps his staff, sucking everything and everyone into the astral plane, except uses his ring of dimensional anchor on himself so that he's the only one to survive
>Session hard-ends, GM puts foot down, finally listens to my advice and begins banning third-party books and things they haven't read through yet
>reboots campaign

That Guy still played with us for at least another few months, but he ended up breaking the rules a ton more until the GM finally kicked him out.

>>52370768
He wanted to take the rest of the players with them

And the thing is that his characters (i dunno if he does it unconsciously or maybe hes just bad at roleplaying) always end up in some sort of leadership position

In this case it just ended my game because we're usually playing at his house and its hard to do drama at the place where ur playing

>>52370820
Got whats coming to him
If you're minmaxing with newcomers and also metagaming to improve your minmax im sure you deserve whatever is coming to you

>Still raging, That Guy is getting more bugged because his undead should be immune to being turned because of REASONS.
>That Guy snaps his staff, sucking everything and everyone into the astral plane, except uses his ring of dimensional anchor on himself so that he's the only one to survive

well then

>>52370610
My point is that she took the game and made it something physical. In my opinion that is NOT ok. I still think the guy was a dumbass, though.
>>52370656
That is a good point the DM should not have let it get to that point. For example if I were the DM I would ask one of the other characters to make a perception check. No matter what their roll was they would have perceived the large half-Orc with some magical item of seduction/mind-control lustfully looking at his(The Forced cuddle Guy) character. He would have backed off at that point or his character would suddenly find it a very good idea to get a Tramp stamp reading "Property of Korgok the defiler"

>>52370759
>i usually don't get raped
I find that Female characters played by dudes have been raped more often in my games.

>>52370932
>My point is that she took the game and made it something physical. In my opinion that is NOT ok
True, two wrongs don't make a right.
But three lefts do.

>>52370932
>My point is that she took the game and made it something physical. In my opinion that is NOT ok. I still think the guy was a dumbass, though.
Isn't that something the guy started?
I mean maybe im just missing information but im sure just raping/assaulting someone requires characteristics that have to be in the sheet

The way i read the story he was trying to provoke the player by abusing her character

And yea i'd also argue that the game is already something physical

Its a story you tell with pals to have fun
If people have fun in a way that makes other people not want to play then thats already game over for me
>>52370982
Well i guess i just have a group thats not fucked up then

>>52370899
See, the thing is... He wasn't even minmaxing! He was just lying about rules, class features, spells, abilities...

>Rules assistant isn't rules assistant anymore
>His new character was a gruff dwarven samurai.
>GM was letting us start out at like level 5 or something, and each of us got a 'family item', usually slightly magical.
>'assistant' (though he was officially not the rules assistant anymore) ended up with some kind of 'attuned metal' item, that would grow as he grows.
>Gets a different +1 enhancement bonus every level. At level 5 this means a +5 dwarven double mountain plate
>Ends up with 40 AC or thereabouts
>Uses his samurai 'kiai smite' ability to taunt enemies to attack him, so they can't do anything but attack him, and also makes himself essential to the party
>I tell the GM in private that it actually just, you know, gives a slight attack boost
>GM knows, but decided to houserule that in as a variant ability for the samurai
>Samurai raping and murdering female plot hooks and party members' family members all the time, because that's totally a lawful thing to do

It's basically less entertaining from here on out. He just drained the fun out of things, convinced our sorceress that you can totally chain AoE spells to have multiple layers of an AoE spell hit someone at once. GM couldn't say no to the quiet, unassuming girl who's running the sorceress. Eventually the GM decided that his BS 'family item' needed to go for game/party balance. A large shitstorm happened, lots of drama and yelling, and the GM gave up.

Then she posted a 'Dear John' letter for him online, and asked him not to show up for the next session. And that was that!

Since then, we've been having a lot of fun.

If you're out there, Grimmjow, just remember...
Doom just makes targets shaken, bro. It's a 1st level spell.

>>52370820
I am happy this story has a nice ending.

>>52371005
>The way i read the story he was trying to provoke the player by abusing her character
Fair point.
>And yea i'd also argue that the game is already something physical
>Its a story you tell with pals to have fun
That is just it. It is telling and talking. Words are not (and cannot be) physical. Tossing a drink in someones face is.

Imagine that it had been two dudes and the forced cuddle guy had tricked the other character into a dark ally where Mr.Forced Cuddle killed him in some humiliating manner.

Would you be ok with the dead guy throwing his drink in his face?

>>52371163
Depends how humiliating.
If he pissed on my corpse singing some stupid song and grinning in my face i might have thrown a drink in his face

Thing is im a pretty big guy so all i need to do is stand up and he'd retconn my death scene if not the death itself

>>52371124
The GM went a bit too monty haul with things, and so we're all kind of overpowered by this point. This is still the GM's first campaign, but I can say they've grown in leaps and bounds. Even houseruled in an 'attuned item' system for us after we melted down the dwarf's armor and brought it to an NPC smith.

But hey, we're dealing with nearly-epic-level threats now, so I figure something will kill us sooner or later. Either that or we'll finally 'win' the campaign.

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>>52371205
>im a pretty big guy
For you

But seriously. I guess You and I just have a deference of opinion on how seriously to take the game.

Alright it's time for the game everyone hate
>am I that guy
Here we go
>Larp
>yeah I fucking know
>show up as a fucking archer
>from the get go there is this one guy with heavy plate mail
>pretty bro
> find out over time his character is the champion of the main guild that even contracts out as guards
>eventually find out he's a fucking werewolf too
>werewolves in this setting are more like skyrim werewolves
>like you can activate wolftime at will
>raise an eyebrow in character and keep an arrow nocked when meeting him outside of towns
>he starts to gain more influence
>actually becomes packleader and integrates his clan into his guild
>that's fucking right
>wolfy just turned the town guard into mutt fuckers
>I'm in the other powerful guild that manages more of the adventure type stuff
>start using resources to begin a somewhat shady "just in case" plan if the fucking werewolves decide to turn on the good people of Elibor
>wolf guy finds out OOC
>complains to admins that I'm planning on killing him
>I just state facts that it's what my character would do
>get told that I can keep going if I NEVER go though with it
>now wolfboy just keeps on going through his power fantasy while I'm crippled for investing in what could be a legitimate threat.
What do you think /tg/?

>>52371312
I think that's bullshit, and unless it's a no Player Killing setting, you should be allowed to make your counter-plan.

>>52371312
>get told that I can keep going if I NEVER go though with it
Sorry meant I could keep larping if I NEVER went through with my emergency plan

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>>52370761
NPCs I'd be fine with, even powerful or dangerous ones. Characters who actively run through a plot while we, the actual party of people playing the "protagonists" sort of tag along behind, and can't leave without our characters getting killed, yeah no.

Hence, DMPC.

>>52371328
That's the fun part. When you hit max level, you can permanently die in PvP and quest encounters. I even have a couple of players with me who agree with me.

>>52371102
brutal

>>52371102
I remember when i first gmd savage world
>me and my mates new to tabletop
>one guy maxes his resistance attribute
>damage in that game isn't done with hitpoints but with injuries
>everything i throw at the player the guy just blocks with his rock hard skin
>im literally cockblocked as the dm
feelsbadman

>>52371312
>now wolfboy just keeps on going through his power fantasy while I'm crippled for investing in what could be a legitimate threat.
Pardon the /pol/, but I think you got "cucked" as the kiddos say.

Don't put up with that shit- resolve it in-game. Hell, make it friendly in-game banter. Unless it's the property owner's nephew or something retarded, there is literally no reason for you to abandon the plan. What's he going to do?

>>52371312
>>complains to admins that I'm planning on killing him
He could be a little bitch (heh) or honestly worried that you're going to preemptively kill him, which sounds like an understandable confusion.

>>I just state facts that it's what my character would do
Never a good sign to use that phrase.

>>get told that I can keep going if I NEVER go though with it
Never unless the wolves go evil and attack everybody? Cool.
NEVER, even if wolves are snacking on babies in public? Fucked.

>>now wolfboy just keeps on going through his power fantasy while I'm crippled for investing in what could be a legitimate threat.
How exactly are you "crippled" again?

Honestly, it sounds like you were planning on setting your plan in motion to thwart your rivals no matter what they did.
And you're filtering this through a computer to try to convince strangers you are in the right.
So I can see why they might have been skeptical.

But no, you weren't That Guy.
At worst, you were just planning on being That Guy.

>playing first 5e campaign with coworkers
>myself and coworker are dragonborn bros, paladin and cleric respectively
>rest of party consists of:
>45 yr old coworker playing a 15 year old elven bard (yes, 15)
>bro coworker playing dwarven druid (named Flowerbeard, actually a cool character)
>and That Girl, playing the half-elf rogue named "Whisper"

>DragonBros in town at temple, doing temple stuff
>Flowerbeard coming into town from dwarven caravan, Whisper tagging along
>Baby Bard somehow allowed out of house to travel and perform
>meet up, plot shit, Whisper arrested for theft (paladins of temple are the cops here)
>she doesn't want anyone to know she's a half-elf apparently, so she hides her ears in a hood
>take her to prison, find out she's just a kid, first time offender, let her off easy and buy her a drink
>half-elf bartender casually talking to Whisper "we don't see many of our kind around here"
>My dragonborn ears (?) easily pick up on it, definitely recognize that Whisper is a half-elf
>player rages, goes on long rant about party not respecting her backstory and her character motivations and her entire character is ruined cause everyone knows now
>DragonBros and Flowerbeard just sitting shocked at this reaction
>Baby Bard not paying attention
>Whisper girl starts crying at how unfair we're all being, runs out

Why can't people just be in control of their emotions and realize it's a game

>>52371469
>Honestly, it sounds like you were planning on setting your plan in motion to thwart your rivals no matter what they did.
>And you're filtering this through a computer to try to convince strangers you are in the right.
>So I can see why they might have been skeptical.
>But no, you weren't That Guy.
>At worst, you were just planning on being That Guy.
this shits some top level analysis

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>>52371312
I'll tell you right now that I've been banned from a couple of larp places. No big deal. Personalities clash.

I will tell you right now that if you went through with that plan you'd be a fucking legend at that place forever, even if they did bar you.

People still talk about my old thief. Even after the wardens began throwing non-existent challenges at me -- I was actually capable of picking coin counters right off peoples' belts without the wardens' intervention -- I still pulled off every heist. They had to Deus Ex Machina me to give the Lord a reason to arrest me.

Broke right out of the gaol and ghosted. Strolled into the office and rolled up a new character. Everyone was pissed when they found out I'd stolen close to $2800 in currency with that character (which is bought with real life monies).

Next character was a rogue. Easy grind to max level. Assassinated the Lord, no problem.

Never showed up again. It's pretty boring now, I'm told.

>>52371521
Jesus fucking christ.

>>52370053
Better answer would be let him reroll a new character after his old one went to New Zealand, and carry on the game with other players while he's doing that. There's no reason to ruin it for the other players for his sake, after all.

>>52368264
>the GM is bipolar and struggles with it a lot, and can't keep a lot of thoughts straight in his head very long.

>Last I heard he's trying Mage now

Oh boy, is that ever the worst possible WoD game for him.

>>52371521
>>player rages, goes on long rant about party not respecting her backstory and her character motivations and her entire character is ruined cause everyone knows now
Why not use this opportunity to freak out in character instead of ooc and maybe realize in character that its not that big a deal

>>52371555
>invisibility
>sword

>Its the DM cant start a new game because his dad has coronary bypass surgery tomorrow
Fuck that guy

>>52363297
That sounds really fun.

>>52371576
that's exactly what I said when I heard it

I'm betting on about 2 sessions until it falls apart, but who knows

this is also the GM who tried to run two concurrent Pathfinder games (typical good PCs/evil PCs nonsense) which each got one session before the Pathfinder rules caused a breakdown so

>>52371555
>Learn to use uzi
lolwut

>>52371469
Crippled as in I spent in game currency to amass resources like poisons, bribes and in game property instead of buying magic items.
And nah it's at a public reserve so they can't kick me out.
Now i think about it, yeah I'm waiting for a reason to set plans in motion. I don't want to kill him as much as out him down a peg. He can be a bro but watching as he keeps on getting more control over events that happen is starting to get old fast. Almost like he needs to retire his character to let other players take the spotlight.
Either that or the admins need to stop doing storylines that are "X is invading and lookie here Leman Russ and his wolf band just yiffed them to death"

>>52371380

If it's a game that allows PvP then your plan is legit and the admins are being overly cautious. I play in Dystopia Rising and your character can get fucking murdered by someone in town if they're feeling up for it.

All of this assumes that you actually were just sockpiling this stuff in case the werewolves went off the rails (which would actually make for a badass story event).

>>52371521
>>player writes backstory, makes suboptimal choices in game to support that story, backstory gets ignored and invalided and the player gets upset.
This is completely understandable.

>Player rages and goes on long rant
Somewhat understandable.

>Player starts crying and runs out
This is completely childish and unacceptable.
This is what happens when you start a session before naptime.
Honestly, unless the player came back with an apology accompanied with an explanation involving unrelated trauma, medication, or medically severe hormone imbalance, they would not be welcomed back.

>>52370837
"My family is kidnapped by cultists, no I'm not gonna go to NZ"
There, how hard was that?

>>52371659
That was the second session

Cultist stuff happened first session
Second session they know where their guys are but can't really free them so the motivation of finding them is gone

And the problem was my players didnt want to find their own motivations so adventure is done

>>52371521
Why did it need to be a secret?

>>52371555
Trips confirm. The wolfboy and his yiffdom will be purged. I can't wait to come back to tell the tale.

>>52371742
>larpers

>>52371762
What's your point bro?

>>52371616
>Crippled as in I spent in game currency to amass resources like poisons, bribes and in game property instead of buying magic items.
Your character made the decision to invest in a plan against a current ally in case they went rogue, which they might never do.
You "crippled" yourself by investing in insurance and now feel sour because the GMs told you that you'll never need it.

>And nah it's at a public reserve so they can't kick me out.
That seems like a dangerous policy.

>yeah I'm waiting for a reason to set plans in motion.
>I want to put him down a peg.
>Watching bro get more control over events bothers me
>I say he needs to retire his character to let other players take the spotlight.
>to let me take the spotlight.
>I am jealous of my friend's success

>Either that or the admins need to stop doing storylines that are "X is invading and lookie here Leman Russ and his wolf band just yiffed them to death"
>Also I hate furries so they should suffer because furryhatefurrydiekillfurries.

Yeah, you're still not That Guy yet, but you sound like a dick.

And no, I'm not a furry, I just find your hatred of werewolves a bit slanted.

>>52368644
Tell him to either get with the fucking program or stop playing. Its your game.

>>52371680
we never found out. She didn't play after that and we actively avoided bringing it up at work for fear of another freakout

I'm sure it was something stupid, though

>>52371312
Yiff in hell still applies today, anon. Keep your silver ribboned arrows close.

>>52371679
The point was that he cannot make decisions for the other players.

>>52371784
He doesn't hate werewolves.
It's that the werewolves are pretty much an entire group controlling things and he tried to make sure that they didn't go apeshit and slaughter everyone.

>>52371784
Kill don't hate them, more just tired of the werewolf group just killing plotlines without letting others get a crack at it. We've fought off pirate armadas, slags, orcs, and all met the wolves and they cleaned up house.
Ok maybe I am jealous.
And a dick

>>52371819
Thats exactly what im planning to do
Next session is gonna be delta green which makes sure they always have a motivation for doing quests and if he doesn't play by the rules theres either backup characters or the games over
>>52371858
Well you might be saying that right now but the situation at the table was that he was going above the scope of his character

He was playing his delusional noble/lonewolf whateverthefuck like an out of character pragmatical leader

He wanted to "win" Cthulhu - or atleast that was my impression

After i wiped the party he told me i should retconned their deaths and i told him its not about dying or living the game is about telling a story

And he answered if the game isn't about winning we could have just suicided at the beginning

Honestly you guys don't know how insulting that was to me

>>52371848
Never leave the guildhall without them.

>>52371907
>Honestly you guys don't know how insulting that was to me
I think we might have some idea, but this (You) is why you ended with that sentence, so do go on.

>>52371869
>He doesn't hate werewolves.
That's based on his irrelevant focus on comments like "wolf band just yiffed them to death" "The wolfboy and his yiffdom will be purged".
He's not subtle there, could be poor attempt at humor, but doubtful.

>>52371870
>Ok maybe I am jealous.
>And a dick
Word choice seldom lies.

>>52371935
Didn't feel that great to be honest

I didn't expect my players to be grateful but i atleast expect them to not antagonize me you know

Also this thing about winning horror games really fucking grinds my gears

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>start a new campaign
>Ask for no evil
>That guy wants to play a strangler who targets "fuccbois"

>>52363195
>The "Nice ass!" comment is kinda inexcusable though
It's a compliment. Pull your balls out of your purse.

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>>52371974
On the other side of the coin
>Get invited to a new campaign
>Told to make whoever
>Go for a Neutral Evil Spell-less Ranger
>The only evil they'd be doing was waiting until they could ask for shit for free and make the town they would be in give them a house/base of operations, using their debt of them saving the town to extort
>GM tells us two sessions in "Also, the priestess used sense motive on you guys, so now she can trust you since you're all good!"
>Point out I'm not
>He throws a fit until I retroactively change my alignment to CG
>Says if I don't go good or neutral, everyone is going to die

>>52370525
>>52370324
>>52370292
>people who have no idea of the legal definition of assault

Here's a quote from the legal dictionary I own:
>"...There can be no assault if the act does not produce a true apprehension of harm in the victim. There must be a reasonable fear of injury."

Throwing water or a drink in someone's face is disrespectful as hell, but unless she hit them with the glass, the liquid was corrosive/toxic or the recipient has an allergy to WATER, no physical harm was done.

What the player did was an overreaction to inappropriate conduct in-game, but it was by no means assault.

GM was right in kicking the rapey player if he was unapologetic, but they should probably let the girl know that her actions weren't an appropriate response to someone being a dick in-game.

>>52371987
Dude it literally doesnt matter what you or anybody else thinks it is

If it causes avoidable trouble at the table its a problem and that shouldn't happen

>>52371987
There's a thing called "Right place, right time".

If some lady on the street says you have a cute butt, then that's fine.

If your doctor says you have a cute butt while giving you a colonoscopy, that is less fine by several degrees of magnitude.

If your mother says you have a cute butt while in bed with your girlfriend, then we have hit levels of "wrong place, wrong time" that shouldn't even be possible, and there is something very wrong.

When someone is storming out because of an action you did, it is about the wrong time for any compliment at all.

>>52371974
that's not evil, that's pest control

>>52371987
No it's not if it's said in a sarcastic tone.

>>52371963
>>52371907
At this point, you've cemented to me that he is a jerk, but I have to ask:
Did you explain that players don't "win" cthulhu games before playing?
Because that's important.

If I run a game based on Gilligan's Island and a player has never heard of it, they might be frustrated when they can't get off the island.

>>52372045
>>52372079
It would be better if he had literally any idea of a back story for his character. So far, all I've gotten is the fuccbois thing and "hobo with a shotgun." I'm trying to write some side stories that affect the different players and their characters and I pretty much just have
>That guy is accused of murder that he probably actually committed...

>>52372115
No i didn't

I did tell them i was going to tell a horror story and i thought not "winning" was a given when going through horror stories

The guy played PC horror games before and i was sure he understood the concept

>>52363367
>He thought thimble deserved to die.
What a monster! If anyone deserved to die, it was shoe. Fuck shoes.

>>52372142
Make him reroll desu

If hes not as invested as you are thats probably just bad for the game

>>52372177
>wordfilter still active
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>52362602
>"DM rules that one small race would get 3d6 drop the lowest stat rolls, but no others would, because fuck you basically."
>The DM doesn't understand the "weaker" alternative to 4d6 drop lowest would be simply 3d6. Not 3d6 drop the lowest.
>Rolling for stats in 5e, not just use a point buy or array.
Your DM is retarded.

>dm uses us as glorified dice roll generators because he is more interested in fleshing out his homebrew world than creating a fun game
>wants us all to roll characters from separate empty regions of his world and flesh out the lore behind it so he doesn't have to.
>forces us to write in depth backstories that will never come up in actual play but gets passive aggressive if they are not long enough

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>>52372177
>TFW inherited a group of nine players
>Like them all but want to cull the less interested people to make it more manageable
>Would probably ask that guy not to play because he's just a randumb player but he lives with other players
>Nonconfrontational so that won't happen

Feels bad man

>>52363458
yes anon, everything ever is fake. stupid, entitled, and moronic people don't exist at all, they are just a myth made up by people for entertainment. There has never been a single instance in all of human history where a person has acted like an attention whoring sperg. Neither has anyone ever played favorites for a bf/gf to give them an advantage over others in any situation ever, oh no. That would be absolutely unheard of, and an event for the history books.
>maximum sarcasm

Get out of the house for once and actually interact with people. You'd be surprised at how ridiculous they can act for little or no good reason at all.

>>52372074
>>people who have no idea of the legal definition of assault
"Any contact with a person is sufficient to be an assault in law subject to the defence of consent."

Also:
>Intentional contact made with another, by any part of your body or object (including a liquid) without consent constitutes assault.

>The courts look at intentions and the surrounding circumstances in dealing with charges.
That's the important bit

>There would be a great difference between a woman throwing a drink in a drunk guys face when he's being a pig in a bar, versus say a domestic situation where a man is being abusive and berates his wife and pours a drink over her head. This particular incident I have seen prosecuted in court, and because of the offensive and degrading nature, the offender was sentenced to 30 days for pouring a glass of water over his wife's head.
>19 year police officer

Again, I doubt she would be arrested, prosecuted, or convicted, but assault is assault.
Sometimes jaywalking is a misdemeanor, too.

>>52372076
>reminding us we will never have cute girls compliment our butts while in the street
What the hell man

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>>52370324
What are you the Wicked Witch of the West?

>>52372159
>I did tell them i was going to tell a horror story and i thought not "winning" was a given when going through horror stories
Horror stories often end with courageous survivors.
But not everyone likely surviving should be a given.

>The guy played PC horror games before and i was sure he understood the concept
His comment about it makes me think he didn't.
But presumably you also were sure he wasn't a shitter, so there you are.

>>52367215
Look up the soul eater prestige class in 3. 5 Book of vile darkness. From the sound of the post that's what it's based off of

>>52372076
Some days, I forget just how normalized 4chan became after Chanology.

My apologies.

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>>52372194
I agree.
pic unrelated

>>52372229
oh and
>gets passive aggressive if you want to roll anything non human
>gets passive aggressive if you roll anything that isn't a fighter/rogue/cleric
>always tries to push for political based campaigns when none of players care about it, makes snide comments when we ignore the political aspects.
>hates magic because it can get us off his rails

>>52372283

My one regret in 3.5 is never getting the chance to play a plague mage and have a tumor waifu.

>>52365027
>Maybe I'm just jaded, distrustful and antisocial but it feels like poor planing.
Just wanted to point out that you're most likely looking for the word "asocial" rather than "antisocial". I could be wrong, but many people confuse the latter for the former.

polite sage for off topic

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>>52363239
>that-GM's wife a 3rd level "Soul Hunter"

>>52372194
I tried to argue him to 3d6 drop none, but he argued I could still potentially roll an 18 and "that's not realistic"

>>52370292
>people fell for this shit bait

>>52371005
You all wouldn't be defending this person so hard if it was a man who threw water in the face of someone. Can we just be that honest?
Both of them acted shitty and I wouldn't care to meet or play with either of them.

I'm seeing a theme here.

I'm just getting into tabletop RPGs. Why does it sound like there's are so many GMs who are super reluctant to kick some shithead out of the group?

Also, semi unrelated from the first question, does

>that guy

Have no shame?

>>52370292
I hope you're not serious. If you are, please kill yourself. You'd be doing the world a big favor.

>>52372479
>that guy
does not think what he is doing is wrong so they have no shame

>>52372479
>Why does it sound like there's are so many GMs who are super reluctant to kick some shithead out of the group?
Because alpha males play sports.

>>52372424
He clearly doesn't understand the game's mechanics or game play concepts at all, yet he's still trying to home brew shit. This guy sounds like it's first time ever playing any RPG, let alone trying to GM one.

>>52372440
Wrong action prompted wrong reaction.
Depending on the damage done by the liquid, I'd be fine with the dude that threw the drink coming back.

>>52372479
>Why does it sound like there's are so many GMs who are super reluctant to kick some shithead out of the group?
Dealing with confrontation is a social skill.
Rejecting is difficult for the oft rejected.
blah, blah, blah we're all losers.

Boils down to a lack of respect.
Respect for yourself.
Respect for your time.
Respect for your other players.

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>>52372479
Thank your leftist asswipe friends for spreading the doctrine that its ok to be a total piece of shit and everyone has to deal with it because nobody wants to hurt anyone's precious fee-fees by calling them out.

>>52372551
:(

Is this a bad time to point out that people were a lot more respectful to one another when there was more assault going on?

>>52372490
Physical action > Words

>>52368369
One of my players is a half-orc barbarian. His backstory is that he's a blacksmith. That's it. Every time I give them a plot point, he says "my character wouldn't want to do this. He's just a blacksmith."

>>52372628
Why not give him a Blacksmith plot?

>>52372628
Thats what im gonna do when i want to annoy a GM

I'm just gonna roll a peasant
Give him real shitty stats too
>Hey why don't you go kill X at Y
>But my wife needs me to buy groceries...
>Cue grocery shopping scene
>Sometime later battle ensues
>Peasant is cowering in the corner with his farming supplies
>He always carries farming supplies with him for reasons and that is also his only equipment

>>52372194
3d6 in order for life

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>>52362414
>Went to a LARP about 3-4 years ago, only ever attended about 10 total events
>Friend who has played in the LARP religiously for years is trying to get me and the rest of our D&D group to go out
>LARP uses a leveling system; normally it takes 40+ events of attendance + a bunch of combat/rules knowledge tests + GMing for one entire event to reach the highest level
>Earlier this year the rules council passed a motion grandfathering any "veteran" characters of a certain level to the highest level
>My character just barely qualified so I get max level despite the fact that I've literally done none of the tests and I have no real familiarity with the rules beyond the basics
>Because of my level I'm allowed to start new characters at mid-level, I can play as key NPC's when called upon, and I have access to all the stupid bullshit powers that come with being max level
>I'm actually considering going out just because I have all this stupid shit
Am I That Guy, TG? I plan on thoroughly going through the rulebook before I attend so I'm not making newbie mistakes and can actually enhance the game experience instead of detracting from it. I just want to run around the woods pretending I'm a rogue while also having essentially at-will invisibility and the ability to instakill-backstab people

>>52372701
Whats even the appeal of larp

To me its like tabletop but it makes you look retarded

>>52372729

It's the healthier, *organic* version of TTRPG.

>>52372701

Not really, if you're just there to have fun and aren't trying to dick people over for no reason you aren't That Guy.

>>52372729

go camping with your friends if you have any and fuck around in the woods/at a ren fair/whatever. It's just a fun way to goof off for a weekend although I haven't played any of the fantasy LARPS.

>>52370292
Holy shit I would be so into a girl who could fire mind bullets.

>>52372645
because the warlock is That Guy and demands a plot centered around him starting a cult and crumbling the current religious order of the land

>>52372729
It's an excellent roleplaying exercise, it's fun to swing foam swords at one another, and it helps keep people in shape. The LARP I was talking about in that post owns a couple square miles of woodlands that they've built a small town area complete with tavern (were you can go and drink actual alcohol in-character), fortified wall with battlements, a prison, a watchtower, and a tiny church. Events usually get 100+ people out all in full costume and the number of people combined with the fantastic property they own creates a great sense of the LARP being a "living world".

>>52372074
>They should let the girl know her actions weren't appropriate

Dude, he said "I rape your character."

What's wrong with throwing water in his face in response to that?

Shit, it IS an appropriate response. It informs him in no uncertain terms that she didn't like it, and it doesn't harm him in any way.

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a 'that guy' moment from totally not a 'that guy' maybe 2 i can't even tell anymore

>5e
>party learns about some magic items these assholes have hidden in their secure stable/wagon
>all but one person go
>kill the guards (cambions disguised as humans), break in, hear the town guard coming to investigate whistles blaring
>gta:sword coast
>steal the fucking carriage horses and all in a mad dash out of the city
>their mate who didnt take part arrested back in the bar as known associate
>gives a description and offers up their location (mage told him with sending)
>offers to straight up bounty hunt with them if the city gives him a backup team (he was planning to reroll anyways)
>talks his way out of trouble and into the job
>party turns themselves in, planning to use a letter of recommendation to get off with a slap on the wrist
>guilty party lined up in the courtyard, guards out in force and inn-guy they left behind watching
>"you break into their place kill their guards and steal their horses and carriage? the only innocent one here is the poor bastard you left behind"
>carriage-team's spellsword: "he planned it"
>rolls deception
>21

i don't even know who's throwing who under what bus anymore

>>52372045
This is why alignment is problematic.

Real people are nuanced, complex being who are capable of verious degrees of both good and evil acts, depending on circumstance.

That's why I try to use OED rules for alignment
-Chaos= wilds/animals/orcs and shit. Essentially the forces which want to harm human civilizations.
-neutral= druids and animals. The forces that want humans to leave peacefully in harmony with the land
-law= forces that want to support the humans.

note that law and neutrality can coexist without problem, but chaos has a problem with both.

note further that if a character secretly works for the forces of chaos, that means that they want to destroy civilization or live outside it. The most civilized chaotic people are bandits.

>>52371987
Its a compliment?

You tried to put the moves on a girl, you said shit to her, she refused.

As she leaves, annoyed that you tried to seduce her in such a crass manner, you tell her "you are attractive and I am going to fuck you."

She now fears rape.

That's what he did. She'll probably be fine, and I'm not saying the guy should be arrested, but I believe he is entirely in the wrong here. Don't do that shit.

Oh, and if you did that shit to my sister? I leave it up to your imagination, but suffice it to say I would not be happy with you.

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>So for this game just go ahead and play whatever you want.
>Well actually that won't work, could you make a martial character instead?
>You're poor? Could you be rich instead?
>I was thinking more that it'd be humans-only, so would you mind rerolling?
>You have to be connected politically, so you can't live in the countryside.
>I was thinking you could just play this premade character

Dear GM: Write a book instead

>>52372079
No, he's an autistic dumbass.

Unless he plays a character who talk shit to NPCs, but always works well with other characters.

Most players are not capable of this.

>>52372142
Tell him to make a good character. Tell him he is now requried to be strict lawful good, and his character is not allowed to act in an evil manner. Tell him you think this is the best for the game.

Or just tell him to find another group. There's plenty of rp groups who are into that silly shit.

If he's your friend, tell him that you're still friends, and its ok that you can't play dnd together.

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>>52363440
Are you ok?

>>52372894
>5e
>running storm king
dat big tasty open world. start every game, and every day in game with 'well the party is here, weather's like x and stuff is like y, what do you do? where do you go?' and everyone is too chill to strongarm/jump into leadership so it's always a little talk it out majority rules deal

i love my players. yes even you, the one who needed to buy a new headset like a month ago.

>>52372229
>>52372308
Why not roll a mid-to-low fantasy mid-age europe?

>>52372235
Make one of them DM.

Try this.

Say up to the group: "I feel as though many of you, especially [hobo/shotgun player] are not interested in the type of game I like to run. I feel as though it would be better of one of you ran this game, instead. I suggest [hobo player] as he seems like he would run a fun, random game! Lol! I don't particularly like dming, and would rather be a player."

Then make an anime oc throwaway character, play in his random world, and have fun!

its a game, you should have fun. Why put in lots of effort to not have fun, when you could put in little effort and have lots of fun.

>>52372916
I think he might be making some vague reference to Order of the Stick. Or the acid just kicked in. Or both.

>>52372850
That's a fun ending! Lol!

Roll up new characters adn go rescue the old ones from jail. >.<

>>52372884
Nice ass != 'I'm going to fuck you'

Words are words. Statements are statements. Lies are lies.

>>52372935
He's trying to be funny. Its ok that he was not. Lol! Its 4chan here, people! We're here to learn how to be funny, anonymously.

When he posts again, no one can mock him for his past mistakes. Lol!

>>52372955
Ok, so he might not have said "I am going to fuck you."

But he was much closer to that, than to complimenting her.

In fact, she's probably quite uncomfortable.

Do you want to make attractive girls uncomfortable, so they don't want to be around you?

Or do you want to make them feel comfortable, so that one day they show up early, and its just the two of you, and you kiss?

here's a hint: pick the second one if you're the kind of guy who makes crass, creepy statements to women.

Because you definately want to fuck women if you do that.

Women enjoy sex, but you need to make them feel comfortable first. If you make them feel uncomfortable, you never get to enjoy their naughty side.

You can spend all the time you want arguing on the internet that she's in the wrong, but if you played your hand a little better, you could be lying in bed with her, arguing over who has to clean up the sheets! Lol!

>>52371937
shut up, furfag. Don't you have a knot to choke on?

>>52373108
lol!

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>>52372978
Anon, I like to fuck men.

>>52372978
>Implying chads never get laid

>>52373171
Well then, you probably don't sexually harass women.

>>52373183
Yes, being a crass boor can work, but it can also get you ARRESTED for sexual HARASSMENT.

also, you haven't gotten laid. lol! X D

>>52363128
She dishonors the mask!

>>52363128
I don't blame the sorceress player for their reaction.

>>52373232
lol! An honorable croucho wrestler would never harm a lady! He must win her heart through feats of justice!!

>>52373233
finally someone who sees reason. lol

>>52372624
Perform the physical action of killing yourself then, faggot.

>>52373247
*luchador.

DON'T KNOW WHY MY FONE CORRECTED TO CROUCHO lol!1

>>52373256
lol! You're abit rude, but I agree that he is in the wrong.

However, one shouldn't joke about suicide. It is a very serious issue which faces many people!

>>52372822
Tell them both to get their shit together, then.

>>52372729
>worrying about how you look when there is fun to be had
I bet you're just a fucking blast at parties. I bet you don't dance, sing, or drink because it "makes you look retarded" either, huh?

>>52372955
and you're a cock mongling faggot fuccboi. Don't you have some baby penis to bite, you disgusting kike?

>>52363309
you are trying real hard to make this sperg acting spergy this guys fault... were you the that guy he is talking about

Sudden game breaks really grind my gears

>be in PF group
>group of 9 people, so we usually split into pods
>game night
>secondary DM is sick, one player got called into work
>DM #1 proposes 7 man RP/expo session to tide us over
>so far So Good
>meet at FLGS, get an hour through session with no problems
>That Guy appears out of nowhere, quietly watches
>seems harmless
>nope.avi
>cuts off DM mid-sentence:
>"pathfinder huh? What mod you guys running?"
>"it's a custom campaign"
>"oh nice, " smalltalk ensues
>minor break, nothing to get mad over, i guess
>That Guy leaves
>our warpriest is buying some really good jerky in town when he returns
>Brings manic pixie with him
>interrupts warpriest mid-meal to explain her whole custom setting, party included
>tuned out most of it, but she had a "problem player" who had been "abusing" the Leadership feat
>DM tries to give advice
>nat 1
>hour long argument between DM, That Guy, manic pixie, our healer and our trap-monkey
>again, tuned most of it out, but heard Leadership, stats on 1st lvl shadows, undead technically not being undead, and stab damage
>warpriest just wants to finish his jerky
>they finally leave in a huff
>store owner is concerned
>try to continue session
>derailed sooooo hard
>we never find the thieve's guild we were hired to find and just end up buying more jerky

it was good jerky though. gave us +3 to any skill check for 20min.

>>52371415
When my group played Deadlands, we found that if someone has really high toughness that you should have your GM can bennies on spells to actually deal damage. In that setting, there are a lot of queer/scary mechanics that can really screw people up that just involve touching them and not wounding someone, too.

>>52362414

So just preface with this, as a sort of OT, I run a thing where I give my chars 3 chances to not get fucked on by RNG (optional too, in case someone wants to go all Dark Souls on me) and after that every dice roll is 100% online ready to bend your special snowflake over and ram them. The players are not told when they lose their chances so can't metagame around having/not having them. do other groups do this?

Anyway:
>Be me (GM)
>running a 3.5 based system in my world
>essentially a shit tier "one side is good one side is evil" yadda yadda supercontinent
>start new session, level 2
>open invites to others as the four of us wanted new players to spice it up
>local That Guy volunteers
>go about character genning with people in own time, prefer to have char all helped through and backstory established so can get the first session going smoothly
>ask That Guy how his char is going
>"Oh yeah I've got an idea"
>tell him to make sure it's ready by start day
>"yeah no worries"
>2 weeks later start session
>that guy is late
>lives 10 min walk from me
>call him
>no response
>sigh, start session after waiting half an hour
>get call after another half hour
>group just introduced to each other, 2 travelling companions and a hired merc to investigate a mining disturbance
>get call from That Guy
>"Oh sorry, I was asleep had a late night last night"
>start time was 1800
>"just get here when you can"
>an hour later he arrives
>party just clearing random encounter. slowed down for food to give him time to show up
>Take 5 to go over char sheet before resume (as still had not gotten one)
>"oh I'll just make it now"
>wat,jpg
>"You're slowing the group down too much. I'll quickgen it just tell me what you are building
>"LE travelling Necromancer"
>Le sigh
>"necromancy is forbidden (was in cliff notes of setting, specifically raising undead and shit). I can allow it, but you need to understand that you have to hide the shit out of it
>"OK. can I have a caravan?"
1/???

>>52373301
lol! Thats a bit rude, but I do agree that one should let go of oneself in order to enjoy life!

>>52373345
Wash your mouth out with soup

>>52373388
lol! I think we can agree that the dm was well within his rights to expel that disrespectful player. If he wants to apologize, and agree to change his ways, he might get a chance to rejoin the group.

Some people never learn, though. loL!

>>52372923
yeah he may as well, and try find a group of players that are actually into the politics side, rather than trying to force us into it.

Has anyone ever had an NPC they cared about in a game? (Family, lover, child) and have that guy do something horrible to them on purpose?

How would you respond to this?

>>52363128
holy fucking shit
good to hear that guy got kicked ASAP, you hear too many stories about enabler DMs.
also
>people replying to bait
kek

>>52367477
>>52368644
make a list of precise rules you can point at when he breaks them.
>no splitting with the party for more than [duration] in [duration]
>no completely ignoring the adventure
>no urges to murder stuff unless you can justify them
>corollary: if your justification is "my character is cuh-razy" roll up a new, sane character or one with the aggressive trait
>if you argue with the GM for more than ten minutes the argument is over
the final rule should be "these are the terms & conditions. you either accept them or leave the fucking table and find another group."

>>52373466
lol! Its quite aggravating how cruel the DM can be to your innocent loved ones! That's why I shamelessly make every character I play an orphan!

In the games I run, I prefer to make my own characters, let the players begin to care about them, and then take them away! I can be quite mean to my own creations! LOL

>>52372894
my god this is my GM

>"we will be playing an open world sandbox, generic fantasy, anything in the phb goes"
>"oh you all want to be non human? I prefer human centric campaigns so can most of you be human?"
>"there's three warring factions so you cannot be from outside the region"
>"you want to be a warlock? we will need to "discuss" that"

it really does take the fun out of it.

>>52373510
lol! I wish those silly guys would be more straightforward about what they want.

Do they think they're not allowed to set down rules for their players?

>>52373443
2/???
>"whys that"
>"so I can hide all my research and not arouse suspicion"
>Ohwow.goodplan
>agree, let him roll for stats and quckjot all the relevant stuff. will skillset later
>Let him know he does need to buy a horse or mule for caravan but as at level 2 can easily afford
>Oh that's fine I wasn't gonna buy a horse
>what???
>"Ahhh, then why have a caravan?"
>I was gonna summon an undead horse and have it draw my caravan
>MFW
"What about being inconspicuous?" I try to test with
>Oh it's fine I'll leave it outside of town or hidden
>sigh strongly.
>"sure. Be aware it may get you killed. As long as you are fine with that and are aware, then it's allowed"
>Rest of party is TN druid, LN wizzard and CG rogue/ranger
>resolve to have party meet in next town
>after 2 hours of waiting, full party ready to play
>party travel to town from opposite ends (That Guy on one, party on other)
>advise group the structure of the town, the fact it's cleared from the forest, and that the walls are high. this is a big, well defended town
>That Guy loudly states "I adjust my top hat and guffaw loudly "finally, another mark for my conquest to world domination!"
>He then chooses to start riding his caravan STRAIGHT INTO TOWN
>Kindly remind him that his caravan might attract attention. unwanted attention
>He says "Oh it's fine I'll bribe the guards
>ahhh.... you do you champ
>start rolling spot checks
>continually remind him that it's maybe a dumb idea
>he keeps going towards the town
>guard spots him
>alarm.wmv
Shouting and crossbows start happening all along gatehouse
>he states "with a flourish of my staff, I stand up on my caravans sitting area and yell loudly at the guards to calm down"
>they tell him to stop or they'll shoot
>gate closes
>That Guy confused "but why are they closing the gates? I haven't had a chance to talk to any yet"
>remind him of the undead horse and obvious wizzard heading hell to leather to the town and ignoring the repeated shouts to turn back

>>52370313

It's cool brah. Keep posting that. I saw that for the first time a couple of days ago. Good shit.

>>52373510
Nothing worse than a DM that says "anything goes" then immediately tries to guide everyone in a particular direction rather than just saying so from the get-go.

>>52373564
lool! I think its a fun set of rules !

>>52373590
lol! They dont' realize how differant the players picture of the game is to their own picture is.!

>>52373540
3/3
>That Guy becomes angry "but i never said I was a wizard. I'm just a businessman to these guards. How can they tell"
>Remind him of the massive eldritch staff (topped with a run encrusted SKULL btw) he's been waving at the guards this whole time
>Oh it's glamoured so only I can see it's true nature
>remind him that illusion was his restricted class
>"oh yeah. I had a friend cast it for me and permananced it"
>No, You wanted it like that, should of made the char 2 weeks ago. event hen it may not of been possible
> That Guy states "well I fire hands the gate down"
>ohno
>the guardsmen see him casting a cone of fire at the portcullis and open fire
>start rolling dice for the guardsmen
>"why are they shooting me? I was just trying to make a statement"
>Let him know that attacking a town gate is a sign of banditry
>first round of shots, necromancer is all out of chances already
>let him know that a hail of arrows hit around him, essentially pincushioning his caravan. Somehow, his character is miraculously alive after that
>give him a chance to run away and maybe do something smart. State the guards need a turn to reload and now would be a time to leave since the gate won't open
>" I magic missile one of the guards"
>facepalm
>hits the guard, does about 1/3 health
>guards return fire, hurn him to swiss
>"but, what about my chances that I got"
>Inform him that he's used them all up
>He RAGES
>flips table
>throws his PHB across room(3.0, btw)
>storms out of room after stuffing everything into his bag and calling us all dickheads

Entire room was stunned for a good 5 minutes. he came back for his book a week later. And asked when next session was on

>>52372479
>I'm just getting into tabletop RPGs.
>Why does it sound like there's are so many GMs who are super reluctant to kick some shithead out of the group?
http://www.plausiblydeniable.com/opinion/gsf.html

Ties in with what >>52372551 says.

>>52372822
>That Guy warlock starts a cult
>Unfortunately his cult is going to get crushed by a rival cult with a more powerful following/warlock leader/patron.
>Going against them directly would get That Guy killed.
>Ancient legends say the rival patron and his minions were once defeated by a warrior
>This warrior wielded a sword and wore armor blessed by the gods to kill the patron
>Unfortunately, he failed, and his equipment was torn apart.
>However, one of the warrior's allies recovered his broken equipment and hid it somewhere

Now you can have your rogue/wizard type research the location of the hidden gear.

And if the gear was intact you could have your fighter type learn to attune it and use it during the final battle against the rival patron.

But the sword and armor are broken. And to fix them, you'll need a blacksmith of legendary skill, someone who has traveled far and wide to learn the secrets of the greatest Elven and Dwarven weaponsmiths...

>>52371937
>word choice seldom lies
You sound like an absolute fucking tosser. Here's your (You), armchair warrior.

>>52373618
loL! You should have known he would make a scene...

Next time just tell him he won't fit into your game...

>>52373618
The group ended up taking That Guys caravan and using it as none of the locals wanted it if it belonged to a evil wizard

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>>52371594
Horrendous.

>>52373618
>asked when the next session was on

topkek

>>52373647
lol~

I AM impressed that you seem to have kept the group in good order afterwards

>>52373618
>And asked when next session was on
A good story, but this was too much and broke the illusion, leave it out the next time. Otherwise 10/10

>>52373121
>>52373247
>>52373276
>>52373444
>>52373485
>>52373522
>>52373601
>>52373595
>>52373629
>lol!
Mildly curious how many of these are the same lame poster.

>>52373682
It's the same lame poster.

ever had a GM that clearly doesn't have any stats in mind and just makes up shit as he goes? It's infuriating. Some guy rolls a w6 for damage and hits for 6 damage? OH BOY, THIS WAS A HARD HIT. Some guy rolls a 4 w6 for 10 damage? Your hit does barely any damage.

Now why is that you think? Well. The GM doesn't understand that even if you rolled average on w6 at 4 rolls you can still easily deal more damage than someone who rolls a w6 for 6 rolls. Even if your rolls were terrible you still get 4 damage on the very low end from 4 w6 rolls.

Now this guy basically handles a w6 roll that lands on 6 like a critical hit which makes absolutely no fucking sense. That means that if you hit someone with your bare fist and somehow roll a 6 on your hit he pretends as if you just knocked some to the moon.

And no, I'm not making shit up. That's the exact thing he does. He apparently treats the w6 like another chance to roll a "critical" even though the only purpose of it is to roll damage, nothing more.

>>52373623
>You sound like an absolute fucking tosser.
Well, I started with the thought:

>Your words never lie.
But that's fucking stupid.
So I thought of:

>Word choice never lies.
Much closer, but "never" is a stretch.
So I thought:

>Word choice seldom lies.
And it fit, but sounded a bit pretentious.
But I could live with that.

>Here's your (You), armchair warrior.
Plebs chase (You)s.
A true connoisseur pursues the fine vintage of a properly seasoned and aged "This."

>>52373712
I am not lame

>>52373716
lol! he's clearly inexperienced! (I used to make similar mistakes when I started)

>>52373725
lol

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>>52371626
Out of nowhere, what chapter do you play in? My best friend has been suggesting that I try DR for months, haven't had the time to actually roll up and gear up a character though.

>>52373716
I have a dm whose memory is shot due to a youth of hard drug use so he is super inconsistent with rulings. If you bring up past instances of how he has ruled something he snaps and calls you a powergamer.

>>52373778
Lol! I hope he's a good dm besides that!

>>52373677
We'd been RPing for awhile as just the 4 of us so we settled back into the groove shortly afterwards. The resident (good natured) trollmaster of the group suggested taking the caravan

>>52373680
I /wish/ i made that part up

>>52373778
Out of all the things I hate about GMs it's inconsistent rulings that piss me off the most. The job of the GM is to not let players look behind the curtain. I GMed before and I know how much of your story depends on a carefully crafted web of lies with constant improvisation. I know that no matter how prepared a GM is, he still tends to bullshit from time to time. But at least don't show it to me that you are bullshitting. Write down the information you just made up. Make a fucking note god dammit so when it becomes relevant again I don't have to pretend that I don't see through your web of bullshit and lies.

>>52373819
lol that's extremely hard to do. Just relax and have a good time!

>>52373857
fuck you

>>52373877
lol u wish : P

>>52373894
don't reply to me or my posts ever again.

Ironic shitposting is still shitposting, anon.

>>52373908
This.

>>52373902
>my posts or me
lol that's the same thing ok bye

>>52370605
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>>52371102
I've read this story before. Wasn't sure though, until I got to 'dwarf samurai'.

>>52363899
Make sure he's using Unchained Monk if it's PF. It's leaps and bounds better than vanilla Monk, and still 1st party.

>thanks to the shitposter you now have to filter the phrase "lol"
Dunno why I haven't anyway, as, like he's using it for, it's only ever used for shitposting/trolling/irritating people.

>>52374160
lol the best part is there's a better story

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>>52371102
>Grimmjow
Yeah fuck that guy.

>>52372978
>>52373345
>>52373623
>replying to bait

Even if he's not baiting he's an autist who doesn't understand the concept subtext, context and implications. Just leave him be, he's too retarded to listen.

>>52373778
>I have a dm whose memory is shot due to a youth of hard drug use so he is super inconsistent with rulings.
Aw.
>If you bring up past instances of how he has ruled something he snaps and calls you a powergamer.
I change my mind, fuck that guy.

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>>52374289
"Armchair warrior" here.
I was not baiting. I promise.

But your selection of posts there seem varied anyway,

>>52368175
1st ed Vampire was literally about being young and poor and having to work for old powerful assholes with no idea what was really going on in the world. Some of the LARPs still run on this basic model.

>>52368369
I think what it comes from is, if you think RPGs are just about pretending to be A Guy In A Weird Place, and you've read a lot of books like the Hobbit with "reluctant protagonists" then it seems reasonable that a halfway normal guy FUCKING RUNS when he meets a dragon or deep one or whatever. "You need to design a character with some kind of inbuilt protagonism, not just a random fuck off the street." Isn't in most books, and most people don't pick it up from their first group. (bc statistically, most new people seem to start in equally new groups where no one knows what to do, then drift to established groups if they stay in the hobby.)

>>52374388
>Refusal of the Call
Yep.

They're still dumbasses.

>>52369681
>>52369724
>It's like a video game, but you can DO ANYTHING
Lot's of people hear that marketing pitch and hear "I can, moment to moment, do any random thing that crosses my mind." Instead of "We, as a group, can pick to play an adventure on any topic, which we can improvise a resolution to instead of discovering the secret answer."

>>52372440
A-anon, have you really never dashed a glass of water into someone's face?
>not even living

>>52372479
>Why does it sound like there's are so many GMs who are super reluctant to kick some shithead out of the group?
Because the game has a GM, many player's feel they have no authority to ask someone not to play the game, but because out of the game the GM is no special authority to their friends (unless the game is played in the GM's house or at a store he works at) the GM feels no authority to kick people out either. It's like when you're at a park and someone is being obnoxiously loud, but you don't know what to say because who are you, the park boss?

>>52372570
I'm pretty sure the people who came up with "you can't call me out for being a total piece of shit" are the same people calling their critics 'snowflakes'.

>>52374480
>the GM feels no authority to kick people out either
I understand this.
It is irritatingly wrong, but I understand it.

>>52372607
There's a quote about it somewhere, something to the effect of "a barbarous man is always more polite than a gentleman, because a rude barbarous man will find his head split open by a hammer."

>>52372729
You can have more characters, and thus more freedom in plots, because the GM's of LARPs don't (in my experience) normally run any NPCs, everything is PVP, and you have 40 players, so it's just a big sandbox clusterfuck.
If you meant the kind where people hit each other with foam or rattan bats, it's because fighting people is fun, and LARPs are more casual than a dojo.

>>52372729
Generally speaking, LARPing works as a participant, and looks pretty retarded from the outside.

In much the same way that you see a group of people playing a game with tense combat, memorable characters and a great plot that's slowly unfolding over the course of a year that's equal parts political intrigue and cosmic horror, set against a backdrop of a world torn apart by rampaging monsters and servants of foul gods.

To everyone else, you're just a bunch of retarded losers rolling dice in a basement because you can't get laid.

>>52374412
The first game I was ever in, one of the things my DM told me was that a DC fifteen was about average. In our very first dungeon he sees me (about three times) roll a die, look at it, and then spend my first turn running away from the fight before coming back into it. He finally asks me what the fuck I'm doing.
>You told me I've never seen this kind of monster before, and a six foot tall bipedal fire sounds pretty fucking scary, so I've been rolling DC 15 will saves to see if the monsters frighten me. I've been rolling ass though, so I've failed all of my checks.

>>52374507
I once told someone he could not participate in a game I was running, but because we were playing in a public space I literally had no authority to do anything if he just sat down with us and refused to shut up. I now only play games in houses where I know the host, or in game stores where the owners have invited me to schedule an event for a promotion, so that there always IS somebody I can go straight to with "Joe's being a cunt, kick him out of here."

>>52374617
>Being scared of a six foot tall bipedal fire
Inexperienced character being role-played well

>Rolling Will saves without being asked to
Inexperienced player roll-playing poorly

>>52374643
Ah, yes.
It's always better to have something more substantial "human decency" to fall back on when asking players to leave.
Actual authority, physical presence, or a taser all work well.

>>52373732
Kill yourself faggot

>>52374654
>Inexperienced player roll-playing poorly
Why?
If you don't know what action you want to the story to go and are not sure what action would character take, why not base it at random chance influenced by character traits?