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Pathfinder General /pfg/

How do you make the comfiest of comfy adventures in Pathfinder? Maybe with a little lewd on the side?

Unified /pfg/ link repository: http://pastebin.com/hAfKSnWW

Avowed Playtest 1: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5HkyGRtGZy3SWVhdWFBWERWWjg
Avowed Playtest 2: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rV7kaF9JL2gw9xQalkEnlEDL9WXtbsaCqNABm_pLIgc/edit?usp=sharing

Spheres of Might playtest:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/160bWvYewTwEXj9ZZv-jJ9-VrvGpYNHNcF8w6BMsdqgU/edit#

Sphere of Power playtest:
Creation Handbook Playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kitAB8sHgmuD3fvOMuI_KyV_dxpO2wrxQmbnCoRgglA/edit?usp=sharing
Dark Handbook Playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zHRZyaMh_QwWcQ-ROGCjQyCdflD6cbm9VdEOJMpC06I/edit?usp=sharing
Life Handbook Playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wTv7VGj2qzjGnReD1lLRwC8iNG_G6f-a6XzMQlTB1yM/edit?usp=sharing
Mind Handbook Playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Kp4acH7zTk4e3DfPdYDfTk1jJClly3yp27Jfrf3FRWw/edit?usp=sharing

Gear of Power Playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zIomq0TFP7uPdlFB8VRAIWQEjAXLV5CYpP3HmjySynU/edit?usp=sharing
Wild Magic Handbook: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xBfoH6YcTdD3kwjn3ikItWPBGzIm9g3SVkVvUQD1yUw/edit?usp=sharing
Wild Magic Tables: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NU5bK1Dyzu66KgIdrHNaaXBw1eHVpcHZHOh5BDaxMzU/edit?usp=sharing

Bloodforge Infusions updated playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GvwMclLSw15slYI7D5xLdjMzr-Nau92hNha9Sx0LOk4/edit#

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>>52355975
comfy is just a front for Vilderavns
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>>52355975
I realized recently that I'm okay with lewd but I actually don't like comfy at all.
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>>52355975
By DANCING

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp28JPs25ek
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>>52355975
Since no one else is adding this to the new thread-
http://www.captiongenerator.com/424272/pfg-contemplates-its-future
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>>52355975
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jynTNYSKNuk

Anons, what villain do you like the most primarily because of their aesthetic? They don't even have to be a good villain- they just have to look cool while doing it!
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>>52355975
Is WWW a memegame yet?
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How bad is it to use gestalt enemies against a non-gestalt party?
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>>52356028
The Arkonas had mad style.
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I have three players for my Spheres of Might playtesting game. None were recruited from /pfg/ or Roll20, but this works out all the same. Since N. Jolly prefers 20 point buy and minimal book sources for playtesting, the game will be 8th-level, 20 point buy, humans only, core rulebook + Advanced Player's Guide + Ultimate Combat (throwing shields are a free action merely to unclasp), two traits (no drawback) which can be from anywhere.

In terms of mechanics, the three players are interested in playing:

• A single-classed conscript and unarmed puncher, because they find the mechanical simplicity of the class alluring, and they want to punch people. I am working with them to create the most optimal puncher possible under a single-classed conscript, with a focus on the Berserking, Dual Wielding, and Open Hand spheres.

• A switch-hitter scholar, because they wanted to play a Scorpion-style intelligent samurai with a bow, a katana, a horse, a single type of poison, and flashbangs. I am working with them to optimize this concept as aptly as possible. Their scholar knacks will probably be martial study, cunning attacker, poisoncraft, and studied technique.
The scholar's player has already written up an initial report on their attempts at building a scholar here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IV6dw9jNfzEK_5Ps2kvzUqiMCqNKKtBEKVra-LVcHL8/edit (ignore the defense section, which was copied from another sheet)

• A hammer-wielding blacksmith, because they were open to playing just about anything built by me, and I wanted to showcase just how overloaded the blacksmith class is. I am also working with them to be the best hammerer they can be, with a focus on the Berserking sphere.
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>>52356028
>tfw Tar-Baphon will never have as much style as the Scourge

Nothing says "very obviously the villains" like armor made of an eldritch abomination's blood and evil ghost valkyries.
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>>52356047

I am worried about two things. Firstly, I worry that the scholar will lag behind severely, because they are optimizing towards a very spread-out concept, and because they have chosen the single weakest class in Spheres of Might so far. (The player acknowledges this.) They are not playing the single most optimal scholar build, which is an Alchemy/flashbang spammer. It does not help that the conscript and the blacksmith will be tag-teaming to batter enemies with Brutal Strike and Decapitate.

Secondly, I was considering having the blacksmith be a blacksmith 6/conscript 1/barbarian (berserker, urban barbarian) 1, because that is a highly optimal combination that can showcase just how ridiculous dipping can be in Spheres of Might. However, I worry that it will detract from the playtest, and it will take away from the point that the blacksmith is overloaded.

How can I better support the scholar? I worry that the criticism towards the scholar will be dismissed as "Your player built the scholar awfully and ignored the obvious Alchemy/flashbangs build that the scholar is supposed to use."

Should I have the blacksmith be multiclassed to showcase dipping degeneracy, or single-classed to focus purely on the blacksmith?
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>>52356028
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Would it make sense that the dwarves rise up against their king and forma Revolutionary Republic or Commune? What about a Napoleon rising up afterward?
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>>52355975
>>52355985
What EXACTLY is comfy suppose to mean anyway, as far as games are concerned? I've always taken it to mean you've got PCs that will have interesting interactions with each other and a possibility of romance in the party, coupled with a DM that encourages RP and would provide wiafus/husbandos to any PC that doesn't hook up with another.
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>>52356052
>I worry that the criticism towards the scholar will be dismissed as "Your player built the scholar awfully and ignored the obvious Alchemy/flashbangs build that the scholar is supposed to use."
This is quite likely and frankly valid criticism. The Scholar was clearly made with a very specific niche/build/trope in mind, and using it outside of that basically means you should be using something else instead. Though you could always use it to point out how narrow the only usable build restricts you and how garbage it is outside of that.
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>>52356122
I'd imagine Harvest Moon, but as a /pfg/ game.
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>When the app is so completely wrong for the game there's nothing to really say beyond "start over"
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>>52356106
Dwarf Napoleon?

The jokes write themselves.
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>>52356106
>dwarves are communist
They even look like karl marx
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>>52355943
>>52356081
FotJR greentext is up.
Come learn about hyena anatomy
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>>52356137
So did you actually send them that, or did you find a way to sugarcoat it?
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>>52356163
>>52356159
Part 2 reloaded: Greentext harder
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>>52356137
Good luck, anon.
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>>52356052
Not sure how to help with the first one, with the scholar in its current shape, having it go down a messy build/concept like that might be over kill in the “yeah, this class stinks” department, the idea he has feels like it'd work much better with Armiger.

As for the Blacksmith, it might be a good idea to have it go mono as a good comparison to the other mono SoM characters. Showing how many More talents and over all Utility that class brings Alone.
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>>52356137
Include some stuff to suggest things they could change, even if it's just random shit.
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Can we do godly commandments, last time it got off track.

Just a simple set of day to day commandments regarding things you should do, how you should interact with people and a few taboo's
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>>52356163
>>52356178
>shitty employee lets his coworkers get killed

W O W
also sweet jesus talk about tone whiplash
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4QDGzriiUspaVpldEx2TUN6Y0U/view?usp=sharing

Alright anons, it's me, Blood Mountain Anon. I'm just gonna drop this here. I'm finally just gonna splurge and finger-jizz all over a document and let y'all pick over it. This is gonna be a stream-of-consciousness kind of thing over the course of the next few days. Soon it will be finished and act as a summary of the entirety of the world of Blood Mountain. Goddamn I'm enjoying worldbuilding too much. Keep in mind this was late-night stream of consciousness stuff, and I'll give it a quick editing pass before I upload a new version later on.

>>52356178
>>52356163
>>52356220
Ew. I might be a lewdfag but... I didn't think /that/ was what was being advertised in a "lewd" game. That just plain makes me uncomfortable.
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Dragon Game Session 6 Recap:

>A plan is hatched between the group; snoop in Cross' house for evidence of embezzlement, follow either Cross or Blakely to wherever they're keeping the hoard, and then attend a party to maybe gather more intel
>Bootybold and teeny dragon go to sneak into the house, Commencing Virtuous Mission
>Under cover of an evening snowstorm, they enter through the stables
>Each one takes a potion Lameeka made to disguise themselves as halfling vagrants, just in case they're seen
>Lameeka sneaks around and manages to find a coded message on a desk, which she copies down
>After some wandering, she also discovers bags of flour with small particles of gold mixed in - either they're laundering the hoard, or they have super expensive taste
>Atolm meanwhile eavesdrops on Cross and Blakely, overhearing them confirm their plot directly
>Then a guard shows up, having discovered Lameeka's footprints in the snow that weren't there before. Shoulda brought a ranger along.
>Whole house is now looking for intruders, Lameeka has a few close calls as some of them have smoke-censers that can detect invsibility
(contd)
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>>52356241
>>52356220
Bonfire at Thistletop, incoming.
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>>52356126
>>52356199

I could perhaps tell the scholar's player to switch to something like a scholar 2/investigator (battered detective, empiricist) 6 for a rather Intelligence-SAD character, but the player seems quite invested in playtesting the scholar.

Indeed, the player had already written up their experiences when constructing a scholar: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10yLIsMysbXjhy2LlcaVmbn1IKf5LK7Bg_Dx0S02Xzh0/edit#heading=h.jmx227112ol3

I suppose it comes down to either:

A. Playing the scholar outside of the "one true build" of Alchemy/flashbangs, and thus having the criticism against the scholar ignored because "the scholar PC was built incorrectly."

B. Playing a scholar 2/investigator (battered detective, empiricist) 6 instead, which will be less useful from a data-gathering standpoint due to it centering around a dip and a conversion archetype, rather than a full-blown original class. As well, the player's work on writing up their experience in building a scholar will be completely wasted.

What should I do?

The armiger might be a good fit for switch-hitting, but it would not accomplish the Intelligence-SAD that the player wants to have.
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>>52356243

>Figuring she has all the evidence she needs, Lameeka chugs an enhancement potion to turn her butt into a +2 weapon, and bludgeons the guard at the front door to unconsciousness in one hard hit
>Others don't seem to notice, but then one of the guards wanders into the room and spots her
> !
>He shoots and misses, and she slips away, letting Atolm find his own way
>Atolm meanwhile uses time magic to make a guard repeat the same actions over and over, letting him slip past
>He's almost spotted by a guard who's now blocking the way they came, but manages to move down a different hall without being seen
>Using the knowledge of the scouting he did earlier, he knows there's a chimney nearby
>With some shimmying, he's home free
>The pair return to the tavern, covered in snow, flour and soot
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>>52356220
Quinn might be shaken IC but her player still feels she did the right thing because we saved Ameiko so we beat Saturday team

It was also pretty heroic and the sort of deed that strongly shows why Aster and Tia saw Quinn as worth serving in the first place.
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>SoP allows rogues to take any non-tradition secret as a talent, with rogue level as hedgewitch level
>no other prereqs
What can I do with this?
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>>52356243
>>52356296
so did 4 other people just sit around doing nothing
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>>52356322

They had a lovely meal of bread, cheese, and smoked sausage links.

While discussing the finer points of culture shock and Draconic upbringing and the lack thereof.

Oh and everyone's level 5 now. (they're gonna need it. )
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>>52356315
Does it qualify you for Extra Hedgewitch Secret?
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>>52356322
The rest of the group did roleplay stuff, but overall they didn't get to do much unfortunately. Things ran a bit longer than they should have, mainly due to the stealth segments being turn based rather than more abstracted in nature.
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>>52356322
they were busy with other things
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>>52356344
I'd think so?
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>>52356346

stealth action gameplay is haaaaaard
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>>52356364
Well, if it does, you can grab one of the Amateur secrets, and then use Extra Hedgewitch Secret to nab tradition secrets.

And even if it doesn't qualify you for it, then the amateur ones are still really good.
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>>52356134

That sounds insanely, ass-gnawingly boring.
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>>52356266
>party's face when facing down the villains
It's not going to be a happy reunion, if the memes were true

>>52356308
Still sounds like it got too heavy too fast, jeez
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>>52356266
Fun fact: You can,t actually burn down thisltop, it's all wet wood. It just makes a lot of smoke. It's specified in the guide.
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>>52356122
I see comfy to mean that there are many quests and encounters where the stakes aren't too high: you have a challenging but not brutal battle, but the stakes aren't life or death or the fate of the town, they're over things like stolen cake or rom-coms gone wrong or sunday morning villainy.

The atmosphere is exciting but not serious, so it's comfy.
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>>52356393
I feel Rubio is trying to be strong mainly as a coping mechanism, but it's partly that he already assumed Ameiko had been assaulted already before they even got to the glassworks, and is relieved to find that they made it in time.

>>52356415
Who said anything about burning wood?
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Oh boy. Rape.

Which games promise to be rape-free? Because this shit is gnarly.
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The BBEG in your campaign is now replaced by these guys.

How fucked is your party?
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>>52356460
Legacy of Blood and Flame seems to be going for a lighter tone.
Then again, it, too, has gnolls.
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>>52356315

Take Clever Wordplay for Perform (oratory or sing).

Use the rogue talent to acquire amateur charlatan for versatile performance for Perform (oratory or sing).

Spend a feat on Extra Secret, and take the versatile performance secret for expanded versatility ( http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/bard/#TOC-Versatile-Performance-Ex- ) for Bluff or Diplomacy.

Raise that Perform skill as high as possible with traits, items, and further feats, and enjoy having monstrously high Bluff, Diplomacy, and Sense Motive.

You could also supercharge your Knowledge skills with the roguish know-how talent.

This is all the more helpful if other Drop Dead Studios material and Path of War material are allowed, because then you could be an Unchained rogue (glory rogue, hidden blade, treasure seeker).

>>52356344

I believe so.
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>>52356460
If you're lucky you could apply for PLD and end up in a whole party filled with people dedicated to not being raped.
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>>52356473
Let me assure you, gnolls are going to find humans fuck-ugly.

I mean, really, who'd take one of those chesty harem wenches over this glorious paragon of womanhood right here?

t. Gnoll
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>>52356465
The BBEG in my campaign is the embodiment of ruination and has already succeeded in destroying the world along every time line that has been, and every timeline that will be.
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>>52356520
I enjoy the classics, people're way too into moral grays and sympathetic antagonists. The heavy story moving villain is a petty jerk who thinks no one should be happy because he never is, and the recurring side-villain is a laughing maniac who plays CE as straight and campy as possible.
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>>52356503
There's our late night discussion. Make the least rapeable PLD party you can. Hard mode is including girls.
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>>52356548
Or one who's both!
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>>52356505
Bullshit.
In the Rival guide there is a gnoll barbarian which is the daughter of a female gnoll and a werehyena.
Gnoll love them some humans.
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>>52356585
Pfft. Every society has its deviants, I suppose.
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>>52356585
>daughter of a female gnoll and a werehyena
That seems needlessly complicated.
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>>52356584
You should read the He-Man/Thundercats comic.
Skeletor makes Mum-Ra his bitch.
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>>52356592
Not if gnolls are compatible with normal hyenas.
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>>52356505
Do us a favor katapesh dm, pls don't be joking.

Also, I want to do something different with gnolls: should I make them less Chaotic Evil and more misunderstood? I'm not into the whole "these races are always evil and must be killed dead."

Why not gnolls that live as hunter gatherers? That are just misunderstood and only want to defend themselves, and they tend to be big softies? I just like to do different things with monsters.
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>>52356592
What is complicated is the half-elf ranger in the same book who haves jackalwere blood and is friends with this gnoll.
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>>52356579
Easy Mode: Lysander, Drummond, Vier, Sigmund

Hard Mode: Maice, Kynyjan, Lun, Ferris (he makes the party work)
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>>52356598
I think I've read one of the issues. But not all of it.

It was the one with 'pud'
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>>52356589
Does that make us the deviants to PFS?
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>>52356614
Katapesh DM has said that there's plenty of monsters who move to the big city and stop doing evil just because it's a better way to live.

There's even a "Civilized" trait in the game's setting document.
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>>52356632
Oh

If thats the case, I'll consider it. I myself am gonna hash my brains out for what I can use as "monster fodder" and what I can use as "monsters reinterpreted"
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>>52356624
Your hard mode would have a better time avoiding rape than your easy mode. Drummond wants to fuck monster girls, Sigmund has fucked monster girls, and Vier might literally be the biggest rapebait in the pool. Even Lysander's probably one poorly thought adventure away from getting pegged.
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>>52356178
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>>52356589
He forgot to mention that said gnoll haves a human sorcerer boyfriend who was hooked to pesh.
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>>52356631
I think the truth is that PFS are the deviants simply because exceedingly few home- or Roll20-based groups actually use their rules. They're still in the minority, even if they hold to Paizo's standards.
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What's the comfiest alignment for a cute support character?
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>>52356585
>>52356617
>>52356684
If this was pre-political Paizo, does that mean this was someone's fetish?
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>>52356498
>You could also supercharge your Knowledge skills with the roguish know-how talent.
And Amateur Spiritualist so you roll 2d20 choose better for Knowledge and can make all Knowledge untrained.
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>>52356697
Lawful Evil.
No, seriously. It's really fucking cute to have a character who's trying to hold to evil standards, but still tries to help people and do right, even while they're still going "God Bless Queen Thrune!" and "Hail Asmodeus!" while throwing up the devil horns.
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>>52356473
I want to rape cute brown princesses!
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>>52356705
Possibly. There's no real way to know.
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>>52356705
Actually the Bone Gnawers background is more comfy than lewd. Even the pet quasit is kind of sympathetic and is armed with the funniest weapon seen in official published material: Chomper the swearing bag of devouring.
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>>52356733
You've got PLD for that.
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>>52356725
Hm, what other religious salutes could there be?
>Asmodeus: Devil horns (metal horns made with the left hand and pointed forward)
>Aroden: Classic Azlanti salute (Roman "ave" gesture)
>Erastil: Stag horns (metal horns made with the right hand and pointed upward)
>Iomedae: Sign of the sword (sign of the cross)
>Sarenrae: "Praise the sun!" pose
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>>52356766
>Ustalav, Brevoy, and other northerly nations make the Iomedaean sign a slightly different way from those around Taldor and Cheliax
>Religious wars ensue
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>>52356766
>Cayden: Literally just raise a mug.
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>>52356766
>Gorum: Fist over the heart
>Shelyn: Fingers formed into a heart shape
>Razmir: A hand over the face, as if a mask
>The Laws of Man: Warding hands placed outwards, as if to push a text or pamphlet away

's all I got.
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>>52356747
Aw, alright. If you insist. I'll just make a boring Jafar-looking motherfucker for LoBaF.
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>>52356766
Caiden's should be a drinking gesture.
Shellyn's a hand movement similar to signing with a brush.
Torag's a fist falling upon an open palm (hammer on anvil)
Pharasma's a spiral drawn from the heart and outwards.
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>>52356793
>Abadar: Trace a keyhole shape in the air
>Calistria: Swish and flick, as if cracking a whip
>Desna: Make butterfly wings as if making a shadow puppet
>Lamashtu: Wild pelvic thrusts
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>>52356766
Norgorber has none
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>>52356766
Nethys: hand covers half the face
Kurgess: FLEX!
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>>52356818
I feel like Norgorber's should be some kind of "Ssshhhh..." gesture.
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>>52356806
Desna: Hands shaped as a butterfly over the chest.
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>>52356819
>Razmir shamelessly stole Nethys' sign
Sounds about right.
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>>52356725
>tfw bringing in a Lawful Evil Asmodeus worshipper into a party of Neutral & Good

I think I'm That Guy.
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>>52356845
There's Lawful Evil, and then there's Lawful Evil. Play it like a Disgaea character--evil's like a job, or a social obligation. In the end, you'll default to doing what helps your friends.
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>>52356840
I'm imagining Razmir having a hand over the eyes, as a domino mask, while Nethys has a hand over one half of the face, dividing it in half along the nose line
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>>52356845
Evil doesn't mean not nice. You can certainly befriend Good people and use your position to assist them.
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>>52356859
Razmir is a little bitch and deserves to get brutally abused for centuries.
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>>52356845
>>52356856
>>52356865
>Ufufufufu~ I'm the most evil creature you could ever imagine, sir paladin! I'm...habitually late to every meeting!
>And I give my friends so many sweets that their teeth will all rot away!
>Why...I'm about to give you a whole BASKET of candy! I bet you're quaking in your boots!
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>>52356856
I once played a LE as a wolf herding sheeps in a mainly good aligned party.
They were naibe idiots but my naibe idiots.
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>>52356747
>First-Born (Race trait, gnoll): You are one of the few gnolls to survive out of your mother’s first litter, and are clearly favored by a demon lord to have such fortune. Once per day, you may add your Charisma modifier (minimum 1) to a damage roll.
Read a bit of Digger, have you?
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>>52356845
>>52356865
You're a Bad Guy. But this does not mean you are bad guy.
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Literally can't find a relevant thread, so posting here cuz pathfinder

>Players enter a dwarven mine to help the miners against an Otyugh
>Only wizard and fighter go because everyone else is dealing with other problems, also cuz an assassin is after them
>Dwarves need help dealing with an Otyugh. Wizard finishes it off with a single lightning bolt
>On their way back through the mine they hear gunshots through the crystals and find dead dwarves
>They rush back to the control room and hear that someone is in the mines killing the dwaves, must be the assassin
>Players hear a voice echoing from the nearby crystal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yugACaFW88U
>A siren goes off and the mining town is in high alert
>Rest of the players rush into the mine and seal the entrance so they can kill the assassin without him escaping
>After standing back to back, and taunting him over the crystals while he's asking for directions because he's los
>"You know what would be really spooky? If I was right above you."
>Players look up and he's standing on the ceiling with guns drawn
>Initiative, shoots the players many times and proving very difficult to hurt so they run away
>Days later they find his business card nailed to the house they bought to fortify against him since he needs to be invited in
>Pic related
>They all groan loudly and angrily for a good 15 minutes

I spent an hour making this just to really seal the deal
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>>52356960
Tell me you punched the GM. At least once.
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>>52356888
I want to eat her candies! And then give her lots of hugs and smooches!
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>>52356975
>R-really? O...okay! I guess I'll have to find someone else to sacri-...nevermind.
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>>52356984
The only sacrifice you'll be making is getting rid of those clothes, my dear!
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>>52356996
>B-b-b-but that's a sin against my faith! You'd better take some damned responsibility!
>Damned responsibility, read: Sign Asmodeus' book and get damned.
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>>52356996
Hang yourself from a door knob.
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>>52357008
>this kills the halfling
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>>52356965
I'm the GM, so I didn't punch myself, no.
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>>52357030
Strongly consider doing so.
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Are we memeing RotRK?
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>>52357044
Are we memeing LoBaF?
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>>52357007
Don't worry, my love. I'll take responsibility for all nine of our children! We can name them after the Archdukes of Hell! Wouldn't that be lovely?
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Sigmund is an irresistible hunk and the ideal husband.
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>>52357047
Few of the characters seem meme-able, so...maybe we work on meme-ing the setting lore?
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>>52356793
>Shelyn

What religion shows their incisors/teeth cutely?
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>>52357103
Fuck that.
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>>52357103
We could always go back to cross-shipping. Nothing much else got done on that front, except for Bon-Bon/Sakara.
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>>52357113
teef showing.
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http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/32730234
Anyone got a copy of the pdf?
I remember being impressed with this one. I need it 'cause reasons....
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>>52357124
I don't think we'd have any more luck with the newer apps. PLD the game is memeable, but the PLD apps not so much
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>>52356813
>Calistria: Thumb between middle and ring fingers in a closed fist.

Meant to invoke the "savored sting" portion of her name, could be a 'lustful' / 'obscene' gesture along the lines of "wanna fuck?". Payment may or may not be specified.
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>>52357124
>>52357141
>>52357103
We need new DHB apps to meme.
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>>52357151
He just applied to RotRK.
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>>52357161
I wonder if he's been pushing in apps later to avoid memes. Smart man if so.
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How is unchained monk compared to vanilla? I just want to punch my way to enlightenment.
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>>52357198
Better in almost every way.
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>>52357198
An enormous improvement
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>>52357198
Outside of losing access to its old archetypes (and there's a 3pp book fixing that) it's a straight upgrade.
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>>52357198
I'm sad that it loses Will as a good save.
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What class levels should a Gibbering Mouther I plan to turn into a reoccuring villain start to take?
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>>52357226
Vigilante
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>Maybe with a little lewd on the side?

Are Pathfinder Generals the worst threads on /tg/?
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>>52357258
Correction, have they become the worst threads?

>mfw remember the times when there were no anime or waifu or lewdposters
>mfw remember when /pfg/ was a good place
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>>52357266
No, I really don't. It's always been terrible.
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>>52355975
A home base. Recurring cast of NPCs. Side RP sessions where dice never get rolled. Environment where you don't have to go all Game of Thrones in all of your actions.
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>>52355995
This is the end, my only friend, the end...
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For the Veskarium.

Who else hype as fuck to play one of these "totally not krogan/sangheili/Klingon" bastards?
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>>52356283
Right there should be the first problem identified: There shouldn't be an "incorrect" way to play the Scholar, or at least not such that it's so limited. If a player can't color outside the lines, so to speak, then the class is failing in design. Even PoW or SoP classes are fairly varied in what they can do, what they specialize in, and what they can sometimes do as an outside niche; if the Scholar can only have one good build, is clearly outpaced by other classes, and is generally unfun to play in comparison, then it NEEDS to be fixed. Get other people to back you up if need be, since Ssalarn's apparently literally retarded.
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>>52357352
They look cool enough but I feel like it won't take long before they develop into a race only played by the underaged trying to look cool, and furries. Just that vibe you know?
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>>52356220
>>52356241
>>52356393
You guys seem to be acting as though games can't have mood whiplashes or always have to be "comfy". I applaud the GM for having the story take a turn that incites emotion in both the players and in the spectators/readers, and for (at least I assume) making sure their players are still enjoying the game.
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>>52357352
>didn't include Trandoshan

I am disappoint.
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>>52356859
>>52356840
Maybe Razmir's version is more like Dio posing in the spirit-photo, or that one kid from the Middle School Syndrome anime?
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>>52357378
>before they develop into a race only played by the underaged trying to look cool
But that's what androids are for.

>furries
They're not at all cute and females canonically don't have tits.

>>52357404
Trandoshans are more obsessed with hunting, whereas the Veskarium are a militaristic meritocracy where you only move up the social ladder by being a badass. That *screams* Klingon and Krogan.
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>>52357352
Jedi Lizardman struggling to remain composed here I come.

>>52357378
I won't fight you on this.
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>>52357384
Yeah, but rape is a cheap fucking tactic to use to do that. Especially when it involves a creature people probably should have noticed and raised alarms about in Varisia, lives no where near Varisia, and seems like it would pretty much be destined to happen if
>One player wasn't using one of like two options in the game that lets them be two moderately powerful sapient beings at once
>One player could go incorporeal
It all just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
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Can we not talk about rape, it just makes me super uncomfortable, having it in PLD was bad enough I don't want to know about other rape in games.
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>have an interesting question of pathfinder concepts
>"durr rule 0 GM decides!"
every fucking time
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>>52357902
?????

What question would that be
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How does it feel to know that the next few /pfg/ games will be flooded with PLD rejects?
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>>52357906
How to decide what monsters count as common and what count as rare for monster lore knowledge rolls.

Yes yes, GM decides. But what is interesting is HOW should GM decide.
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>>52357910
...

???
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So, /pfg/- next session, my PCs are spending a comfy week recuperating in a manor. What are some 'comfy' quests or happenings that could occur?
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>>52357923
Ghosts!
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>>52357920
What the hell are you question marking about.
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>>52357927
You're basically trying to impose rules on the GM, when at the same time GMs are obligated to break rules
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>>52357933
Well GM has to decide because bestiaries don't tell him.
But GM probably does not just want it to be random either. Like, consider Kitsunes, pfg favorite. Probably common in asian fantasy locales, but would they be normal or rare in "default" fantasy? I am talking about the CR +10 or CR +15 distinction.
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>>52357908
Feels fucking bad, man
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>>52357943
the GM has to decide based on setting. They have to trust on their brains.
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>>52357926
Sounds a little too spooky...
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>>52357956
I wish you would engage with me on the methods to think about it.

Like think about dragons. If dragon comes and eats commoner's sheeps, he probably knows it is "a dragon". Because it is kinda common knowledge isn't it? But technically the commoner should not know. Because the dragon has pretty large CR and he has no knowledge.
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>>52357365

This is all well and good in theory, but I can see Ssalarn and perhaps even Stack and Adam Meyers going, "Well, obviously, you played the class the wrong way. A d6 HD character is supposed to stay in the back line and throw things. Why did you not just play an armiger for a switch-hitter?"

How can I possibly address that?
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>>52357985
Dragon covers a wide variety of creatures.
Wyverns, Drakes, Wyms, Jabberwocks etc.

It's like knowing a "fiend" attacked you vs knowing a devil or demon attacked you vs knowing an imp or dretched attacked you.

Make sense?
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>>52357378
It can't possibly be worse than people who play elves, which are still around. Also Catfolk. Not to mention Androids are officially designated as the "muh gender identity" race.

Vesk are pure, PURE!
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This is a vesk female. Starfinder confirmed for not shit.
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>>52358002
Yes.

But then again, that only works for monsters have are kinda themed. Dragon theme, demon theme.

But as they printed more bestiaries, more of it is now just kinda "weird shit". And here, it is fair to the players to treat that shit as rare, thus making it much harder for them to succeed at knowledge rolls?
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>>52358017
hey baby
i like the pattern of your scales
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>>52358017
>no lizard tits

Fuck this gay earth.
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>>52358023
It depends on the setting you autistic retard
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>>52358033
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>>52358038
We are talking about setting building there you ding dong
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>>52357923
Make a few sheets for NPCs and have the players do chores as them. Stuff like maids, cooks, butlers, blacksmiths and all that. To make it feel worth it, have all these NPCs be doing something that directly benefits the PCs in a way, even if it's superficial.

Cleaning their weapons, getting their clothes mended, packing their lunches, replenishing supplies, getting a good deal for items that need to be sold. It's kind of fun sometimes to do that stuff.
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>>52358048
its literally only something the DM can come up with.
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>>52358054
Jesus christ Anon
That was already said
This is about thinking into it deeper.
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>>52358060
there's nothing more to think about
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>>52358023
I've been considering adding a new monster "ability" along with a new monster type
>Rare(EX) this creature is almost unheard by most scholars consider add +X* to it's CR when determine knowledge check DC to identify it.
Bullshit or no? It's to reflect a creature can be rare and unheard of without necessarily being hyper dangerous.

*with X being a really high number
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>>52358050
I'm deifnitely going to use a variation for that. I'll have the PCs prepare packed meals and rations for when they head out after the downtime. Might also have them choose some new clothes.
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>>52358064
It can be just Knowledge level: Rare
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>>52358064
adding useless rules helps no one
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>>52358062
When how do you personally decide it?
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>>52358096
It makes the world more consistent and satisfies my autism.
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>>52358184
based on the setting

>>52358185
what world

there are multiple worlds.

Stop having so much autism.
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>>52358188
Let's take Golarion then and pretty much all of Beastiary 4 and 5
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>>52358188
All of them.

No.
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>>52358196
All the worlds are not the same you fucking retard

>>52358191
How about golarion fucks off
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>>52358210
Well how are you going to insert anything from later beastiaries into your world
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>>52358216
???

However i fucking like.
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Hey I didn't know where else to ask this but since it took place in pathfinder game and you guys use roll20 a bit, I'll ask here.
Can the dm see all whispered messages?
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>>52358227
Is it so fucking hard to have a discussion about worldbuilding in /pfg/?
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>>52358238
you're tryign to determine how other people worldbuild, so no, fuck off.
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>>52358235
no
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>>52358253
I am asking how others fucking worldbuild
What the fuck do you mean "DETERMINE"?
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>>52358263
there are literally too many factors in it
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>>52358278
Well tell SOME
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>>52358292
Why, implementing any systems is just an invitation for the most autistic of players to go REE THAT SHOULD BE X AND ITS Y REEEEEEE

fuck no
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>>52356826
Pass one finger in front of your mouth. As if shutting your lips. Or cutting off your tongue.
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>>52358256
Thanks man good to know, now me and my partner in crime can go unchecked.
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>>52358360
if you want to whisperfuck you can do whatever you like
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Spheres of Might is doing a semi-decent job of giving martials noncombat utility, such as by handing out skill ranks and giving abilities such as Boxing's Verbal Counter and Scout's Heightened Awareness, although we could really use more of these talents.

However, is anyone else disappointed by how the vast majority of spheremighters have minimal use for Intelligence, Wisdom, or Charisma? Only the sentinel frequently references a mental score (Wisdom), and even the commander has Intelligence or Charisma as a merely secondary ability score.

It does not help that it seems optimal to avoid anything that forces a saving throw, instead focusing on direct damage talents, making mental ability scores even less important.

This is something that Path of War got right that Spheres of Power does not seem to be getting. I would appreciate it if mental ability scores were more important to spheremighters.
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>>52358384
Well getting mental stats involved probably makes things more MAD
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>>52358384
>spheremighters
Triggered.
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>>52358413
Agreed. We don't call them Spherepowerers. Wtf?
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>>52358427
we call them spherecasters
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>>52358437
So why not spherefighters?
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>>52358437
Exactly.
It's Spheres of Power, but they're not Spherepowerers. They have a caster level so they're Spherecasters.
It's Spheres of Might, but they're not Spheremighters. They have a martial level so they're Spheremartials.
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>>52358458
thats better than spheremighters imo
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>>52358437
Exactly. Spherefighters? Spheremartials? I dono.
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>>52358460
spheremighters sounds like one of those really shitty americanization dub jobs of some cardgame from japan that wasn't even sent overseas.

It's right "up" there with "buddy cardfight"
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Anyone want to tell us how the REEEEing is going with PLD? Vult is giving out reviews over PM
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>>52358612
Please, no. Can't you pervs leave it in PM.
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>>52357806
I don't feel it was railroaded - the only contrived thing, which I did say to the gm was weird and reach an understanding over, was Aster letting Ameiko out of her sight long enough for her to get such a large lead.
The actual scene had both tight timing and bad rolls.
Tia (and the player ooc) didn't think there would be any threat in a small room that could endanger Quinn, who could escape at any time, and investigated the large underground tunnel instead (which I'm guessing was what smuggled in the gnoll)
Quinn tried to shoot the gnoll and missed - using aether blast would hit Ameiko as well. Then if she escaped, it would have gone back for Ameiko immediately, so she made the choice to stay behind. She had one more trick - aether reaction to damage the gnoll once it touched her - but that also missed. Sometimes that's life.

Also, aspirant's incorporeal ability only works with objects, not creatures.
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>>52358375
I don't think that will happen, since I don't care and the other person is a girl who might have a boyfriend but thanks
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>>52358612
no, leave the rapists in their rape game
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>>52356171
>>52356200
I tried to tell them what was wrong, it's just that it encompassed most everything

Is it any one else's pet peeve when a character's backstory is way too grand and heroic for the starting level?
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>>52358717
yes
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>>52358680
>, ghosts through the door...
That's what I'm referring to.
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>>52358732
She could have ghosted back out at any time, yes. But doing that would have left Ameiko at its mercy, and she couldn't take Ameiko with her.

She made the heroic call.
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>>52358749

If Quinn had already blown two attacks against the gnoll, then why was the gnoll obligated to take her bait when she "stood in its way"?

How could she even "stand in its way"?
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>>52358749
No, I'm saying Ameiko would have been raped if it wasn't for the player having that one specific ability to go incorporeal.
>>52358763
Presumably the DM isn't vindictive enough and the Gnoll isn't dumb enough to try raping something when something else is trying to kill it.
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I have never been more skeeved out by /pfg/ than i am this morning

Not only is Rape Game a thing that exists, but we're discussing rape in another game

fuck this gay earth
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Can one initiate a strike maneuver and use TWF in the same action?
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>>52358773
>>52358763
Were there any grapples here? Because trying to fuck someone who keeps blasting at you seems beyond stupid. If you can't get them sufficiently restrained, lewds are pretty much not happening. Or was Aster just trying to get some gnoll dick for herself?
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>>52358763
I dunno, guess it's the gnoll's personality at that point.
There were definitely things the GM could have changed to make it not happen, and many improvised calls made in the moment aren't watertight against scrutiny, but it happened the way it happened and from my view as another player it was a shock to the PCs but didn't feel forced.

Quinn's player, as mentioned, is more pleased about saving Ameiko than worried about the scene.
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>>52358801
Probably not. Strikes are standard actions, which means you can't full attack, or full round actions, which means you can't full attack.
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>>52358859
Yeah, it looks like only the thrashing dragon discipline allows for two weapon shenanigans.
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>>52358801
No, you specifically need the second thrashing dragon style feat to do that.
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Why did Quinn not just open the door for the others at the first sign of trouble?
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>>52359028
Valeriya was holding it closed from the other side
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>>52359048
>send ally incorporeally through door
>but prevent that ally from opening the door in case of a very likely emergency

Great tactics.
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>>52359048
>holding it closed
>implying Valeriya wasn't the door
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>>52359081
That's how she was holding it closed without Rubio or Evan noticing!
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>>52359048

Valeriya is the Great Evil of this world.
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>>52357384
I never said games always have to be comfy. I just said that the whole "cute girl getting raped by gnoll" thing made me uncomfortable, especially after, y'know, the meme-ing about SotJR and Ameiko in that game. Rape and sexual violence makes my skin crawl, alright? That's just the curl of the burl. If RotJR DM wants to include rape in his games, that's his call. I'm just a spectator and have no right to interfere in his game.

>>52359081
>>52359105
>>52359115

fucking vilderavns

>implying Rory wasn't disguising himself as Valeriya who was disguising herself as the door
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>>52359081
And what creature disguises itself as a door? Mimics. And what does Valeriya mimic? Vilderavns.
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>feat tax rules in play
>tfw you only need one feat
>tfw you can freely go for a VMC
Praise Jesus.
Now do I go hare familiar+divination wizard for gotta go fast, or barbarian for gotta go stronk.
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>>52359135
Go Hare Familiar+Divination Wizard plus Waylayer Rogue plus Improved Initiative with Combat Stamina. Get your level as a bonus to initiative and roll auto-20s until level 20 when you get them for free.
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>>52359151
I've already got my class build though. It's Warder (Ordained Defender, Zweihander Sentinel) 5/Stalker (Brutal Slayer) 2.
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>>52359168
O-oh.
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>>52359122
And that's a good place to drop this since most people here are just spectators and shouldn't put some obscene pressure on the players or the DM. It's not a light hearted game, but it's not inanely serious, and honestly the lewd content doesn't last long.
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>>52359168
kill yourself
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Which LoBaF is best drinking buddy?
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>>52359175
Exactly. The one feat I'm using is Primal Fury Style.
>>52359184
Strongly considering it.
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>>52359205
it wasn't a suggestion
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>>52359210
You're not my supervisor.
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>>52359229
yes i am
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>>52359177
If players listen to /pfg/ when wondering what to do in a game, they shouldn't be playing.
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>>52359177
Indeed. I also usually don't include any serious sexual content in games I run- first, because Lewd has kind of gotten annoying, second, because I honestly don't think I could make it that tasteful, and third, because it just... curls my burls, yknow. More applause to RotJR DM (I sure as hell can't) if he can do that and have a compelling story, and I won't say another word about it if his/her players are enjoying the game and having fun.
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>>52359233
I seriously hope you don't shitpost on Mongolian horse rearing forums Mark, especially since I know you have a shift right now.
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>>52359304
being a supervisor has certain privileges.
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>>52356047
>lets playtest something with limited books
why.jpg
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>>52359367

It's been a while, my old friend.
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>>52355975
Girl with the leaf on her head is a japanese trickster spirit-animal, a tanuki, probably paid for that food in magicked leaves and sticks into money that'll turn back the moment she leaves the area.
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>>52359367
Your copypasta is just making you look like a douchetard who hates other people's fun.
>>
REEE NORMIES GET OUT
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>>52359421
Care to talk about PLD then? Nothing drives normies crazy like evaluating the qualities of dicks and how they can be used on girls.
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>>52359433
Please no.
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>>52359389
Because what's the point in playtesting SoM material if all it's going to prove is that 1pp stuff doesn't work. Devs don't, and can't, and shouldn't, balance around every book out there, so it's not a fair evaluation of material if you're using every source you can find.
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What should someone roll to cop a feel without being noticed?

Sleight of Hand?

Dirty trick CMB?

Grapple CMB?

Steal CMB?
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>>52359476
suicide.
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>>52359389

N. Jolly would apparently prefer it this way:

https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/51698715/#51705101
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>>52358612
Can't, Vult trusted us not to tell.
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>>52359500
just wait until after selection is done, and then everyone can tell and vult has no power and everyone hates him
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>>52357198
It's the only class that makes vital strike worthwhile and cost effective to take. Also, you can have dimensional Dervish by 15th level - at the same time.

They're pretty damn good.
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>>52359506
pfg is tsundere for him, admit it
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I'm trying to design a variant of hellfire ray that instead of sending the target's soul to Hell sends it to Urgathoa's realm, bypassing Pharasma's judgement as the original spell does.

I plan to make wondrous items for my ghouls that when their HP drops to a certain amount it will activate a magic item and hit them with the ray, sending their souls to Urgathoa with their memories intact.

What damage types should I associate with it? Light and Unholy?
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>>52359476

Charisma check, if you think it's possible to cop a feel without getting noticed than you're a fool.

They always notice, it's one of the most sensitive parts of the body, and hands ain't stealthy. The only thing you can hope is they don't care, they do care but won't make a ruckus, or they actually like it.
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>>52359524
i really don't think so
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>>52357224
They still get Still Mind and can have Spell Resistance (that is actually worthwhile to have).
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>>52359524
I really, really, genuinely hate him
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>>52359545
You might want to reevaluate your life if you genuinely hate someone for running a smut campaign with people volunteering to play with him.

>but he's such a shitter in discord!
lies and disinfo. He's abrasive at worst, get over it.
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>>52357923
A really cute maid has disappeared mysteriously. Bonus points if she shyly flirts with one party member in the days leading up to disappearing
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>>52359151
>10 stamina points to auto 20 initiative
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>>52359565
Yeah dude, a game about rape where he fucks with the players in a disgusting way, abusing the position of DM to basically manipulate them into erp with him in weird fucking ways

Its so fucked. Shits not right.

The fact that he's a shitter on discord and has acted like a jackass repeatedly in every game he's applied to is just icing on the cake
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>>52359565
Hey Vult, do you pay people to shill for you or do you just never sleep?
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>>52359593
Hey, if you absolutely need it, its not a bad deal!
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>>52358005
I want to marry a cute android!
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>>52359526
Negative energy and force (death and astral/ectoplasmic energy). Since both harm incorporeal creatures there's no reason not to.
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>>52359624
As long as she doesn't look like Mari, I'm okay with that.
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>>52359624

BEWARE OF MOVING PARTS
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>>52359624
DO NOT FIST
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>>52359644
They're bioroids, darling, not robots. Think Call and Bishop.
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>>52359626
Wouldn't the negative energy heal my ghouls and thus negate the intended effect?

The force is a good idea.
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>>52359644
>>52359648
>not capable of sex
>capable of fellatio
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>>52358050
>cute NPCs will never pack your lunch and wish you luck in your journey

Why am I alive?
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>>52358005

Basically every race in Starfinder seems fine-tuned for their agenda.

Everything that isn't on the spectrum is horrifyingly generic and pop-culture; the Lizards are the honorable warrior race, and hey look an entire civilization of Rocket Raccoons, only this time they're RATS!
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>>52359656

Oh. Well, that should probably be okay, then.
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>>52359682
whats wrong with R@s
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>>52359671

Because you have so much happiness to share with the world and the people you love?
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>>52359697
Smash the r@.
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>>52359492
He is not wrong

Since splat books are never written with other splat books in mind, it will always eventually result in a disaster.

I mean, this is what everyone knew from 3.5
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>>52359716
oh i want to smash those r@s
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>>52359697
R@S ARE MADE FOR SMASHING
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>>52358784
Bro, sexual emergencies are real. Games should reflect that.
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>>52359697

I'm saying the r@s are rubbish, they're the generic tinker race.

So I guess this leaves us with the tough female mage race, the iconic female human race, the "what am I presenting as today" robot race, and the "what the fuck are these things" four-armed race.
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>>52357352
To be honest they actually look kinda cool. What's the fluff on them?
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>>52359613
>Yeah dude, a game about rape where he fucks with the players in a disgusting way, abusing the position of DM to basically manipulate them into erp with him in weird fucking ways
You know, no-one held a gun to anyone's head and forced them to join. Hell, he told one normie that didn't want nonconsensual stuff this wasn't the game for him. Why are you so desperately trying to say the players aren't complicit in this sordid, degenerate affair? Trigger warnings are posted all over the LFG.
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>>52359752

Have you heard of the Klingons and Krogan?

Yup.
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>>52359759
Honestly I'd play a mass effect RPG
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>>52359524
At this point it's just hard to believe this isn't just you constantly self-shilling when you said those words on the discord less than an hour before this post was made on the thread.
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>>52359719
>>52359716
>all these people saying smash the rat.
>not realizing that smash is generally accepted to mean "having rough sexual intercourse with" by today's hip, urban youths.
>mfw everytime an anon posts "SMASH THE R@!"
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>>52359765

Mass Effect is pure, unfiltered shit straight from the puckered starfish asshole of Bioware, the only good RPG of the series was the first game and, as papa always said, if the only good time was the first time than the thing probably wasn't all that good.
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>>52359759
You can't go wrong with that. Shit, I might play one just because they look cool. And I like proud warrior race dudes
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>>52359433
Why is Sigmund so perfect?
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>>52359783
What's wrong with ME2?
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>>52359787

The only saving grace of the Vesk is, being lizards, they have two penises.
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>>52359781
Bash the r@.
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>>52359795
Liam Neeson is for protecting smiles, not for lewd
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>>52359506
But I wanna get selected. Can't tell if he's a DM for me. You'll just have to guess.
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>>52359781
You don't think we know that? I'd gladly smash /pfg/'s favorite rat just so I can taunt her over her Loli chest and girlish hips
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>>52359781
>not realizing that smash is generally accepted to mean "having rough sexual intercourse with" by today's hip, urban youths.
Oh, I'm perfectly aware, anon
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>>52359800
Is this copypasta, or someone honestly sperging at copypasta? I no longer know.
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>>52359778
Or, it's a good shitposting phrase that will drive you lurkers insane
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>>52359783
I find the universe and races themselves rather interesting
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>>52359526
>saving your ghoul waifus from harsh judgment by sending her to Paradise directly

You're a good man, Anon. She's lucky to have you
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>>52359800
Don't take the bait bro, it's a copypasta. Hasn't been around for a few months, but it got spammed before it vanished.
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>>52359813
>>52359817
Rinka is not for lewds!
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>>52359796

Do you remember when Mass Effect 2 was released, and the general consensus was, "It's okay if the plot was kinda dumb and went nowhere, it's the middle act. Mass Effect 3 will fix everything?"

Yeah.

Tali became a needy dumb-head that needed Senpai to rescue her, Garrus was nothing but a pile of calibrations... Jacob... The Collectors were a huge pile of bullshit nothing, everything about the Omega Relay was edgy (oooh, this one's RED because it's EVILLLLL), Harbinger was hammy and stupid (every Reaper is a nation unto themselves, except Harbinger is the leader cuz he's the oldest and toughest hand has the biggest blubberiest voice. Also there's an Alpha Relay that made the whole Citadel thing pointless but it's OKAY IT'S OKAY the Reapers can still come in within a year of reactivation!)

The game was good because we thought Mass Effect 3 was going to fix it.
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>>52359532
This. Honestly would be upset at being groped but chances are it's some desperate horny guy who's life I wont want to ruin by bringing it up and calling attention to it.

that said, I assume you could use slight of hand to make it look like an accident in the first place.
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>>52359806
>>52359795

>Implying Geralt is going to get picked

He's not smutty enough.
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>>52359833
It's what any good husband would do.

Pharasma's destruction of the memories of the dead is the ultimate injustice.
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>>52359705
I just want a cute waifu to share it with, Anon.
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>>52359797
>Two penises

Sign me up anon

>>52359839
You can't tell me how to live my life! You just want to keep that sweet rat ass for yourself! Greedy guts!
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>>52359859
Mass Effect is hammy scifi action
You were looking for something that did not exist
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>>52359859
Mass Effect 3 was actually really good except for the end.

Harbinger is the first reaper, thats why he's the 'leader', except in reality they're all controlled by an AI, 'The Catalyst', who was created by the Leviathans to solve the Synthetic vs Organic problem (And Harbinger is the reaper of the Leviathans)

Is ME3 amazing? No, but its a good game with solid plot beats that's remembered poorly (and not unfairly) for its shit ending.
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Does Sleeping Goddess stances counts as maneuvers for bonus power points?
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>>52359877
Rinka is for love and support and kindness, anon. And everyone can offer her some of that if they look deep inside themselves and choose that path.
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>>52359869
Pretty sure he's smutty enough. He fucked a monster! And raised another monster that murdered a town, but not before probably getting raped by burly youths. There's tons of room for lewds with Sigmund. He's the only manly man around, so he's prime fuckbait for heterosexual gal PCs. Being older NEVER stops women when the guy is rugged and handsome and shit.
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>>52359916
I'd rather smash that r@ desu. She can get love and kindness and support after I'm done showing her a good time

:^)
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>>52359881

Anon, it was *crappy* hammy sci-fi action, even then people were saying the plot was really dumb but Mass Effect 3 is going to fix it.

>>52359890
>Mass Effect 3 was actually really good except for the end.

Yeah, the non-hub that was the Citadel was great.

So was Kai Leng. Remember when you beat the Ninja and he falls to his knees, gets up into an action pose, and shouts, "TIME TO GET SERIOUS" while calmly walking towards the objective as missiles blow Shepard away?

Remember how EDI got turned into a camel-toe sexbot? Remember how the entire War Score system doesn't matter? Remember the PTSD child? Remember the shitty graphics? Remember Cerberus going from shady spec-ops organization to galactic spanning superpower in a year?
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>>52359944
It was not crappy
What, is Star Trek bad too?
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>>52359944
Yeah, I do remember all of that, it wasn't that bad.

I know because i replayed it recently.
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>>52359923
>He fucked a monster!

I don't think it counts when the monster probably looked like this.
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>>52359872
Still, I hope she appreciates you, and I hope her Mother rewards you handsomely for your loyalty to our lifestyle.
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>>52359960
Never trust a fey
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>>52359974

Trust a fey, ruin your day.
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>>52359901
Stances usually count as maneuvers.
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>>52359960
Sexy monsters are still monsters
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>>52359956

It *was* that bad, it was bad enough to cause thousands of people to poison their memory of the franchise. It was enough to force Bioware, after literally mocking their fans for being "entitled assholes", to release an "extended" edition followed by "Fanservice: The DLC."

It was enough to make the atrocity that is Andromeda as shitty as it is. Bioware is dead.
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>>52360012
Andromeda isn't bad either honestly, the facial animations are beyond a joke, but the general vibe and story beats are ok
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>>52360024
>but the general vibe and story beats are ok

"Okay" is not a word that should be used to describe a AAA-blockbuster release from a company that considers itself a Titan in the Industry. Especially the first act of a supposed trilogy.

I guess we're in for a meandering second act and a third act that leaves everyone unsatisfied and angry? Kinda like Dragon Age!
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>>52360047
Its actually this studio's first AAA game
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>>52359923

>Implying Vult wants manly men
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>>52360060
He's been very clear about wanting manly boipucci
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>>52360057

It's still Bioware, you know.

God, what happened to them? They haven't released a quality release in a decade.
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>>52360060
In a game that's all about masculinity and forcefulness? Absolutely.
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>>52360075
so he can transform them into traps
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>>52360078
Its actually Bioware Montreal, the original Mass Effect games were done by Bioware Edmonton

This is Bioware Montreal's first actual game, they've only done assist work for the main studios before
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>>52359817
Well in that case, carry on you freak Russian bastards. Cheeki breeki until your blyats fall off or you run out of vodka.
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>>52360080
Not even a bamboozle, he openly complained about the lack of traps.
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>>52360182
But traps are boring. Cute boys are way better than cute boys pretending to be girls any day.
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>>52360238
ONLY MEN CAN TRULY UNDERSTAND OTHER MEN ANON
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>Lysander already in PLD
I'm not opposed to a Lysander pick but it seems like a poor decision to reveal a pick so early. Gonna rile up other players. Close himself off from any surprise good revisions.
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>>52360285
Yeah, though we called it. Lysander best app.

Maybe he's fucking Vult. I know I'd let my boyfriend join my game.
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>>52360270
I'm just saying, cute boys can definitely be good for a tumble, but they should be honest, you get me?
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>>52360311
given that Vult is a scumbag, it wouldn't surprise me if he quite literally let a player blow him for a slot
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>>52360285
Main thing I got from this:
'Traps are the only males that will get in'-fags BLOWN THE FUCK OUT

yeah yeah I know he's pretty effeminate but he's no trap
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>>52360285
After the fiasco that was the 2hu surprise, he's probably just trying to be open and honest. Lysander got picked because Vult likes the player, and because of their reviews.

Also, does anyone have a link to the old lfg posting for Argentum's HV?
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>>52360341

Lysander's an anime pretty-boy, did you even see his art?
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>>52360348
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/62955/slash-pfg-slash-hells-vengeance
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>>52360358
Thank you anon.
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Hey people, I'm gonna join a campaign where I'll play an elf magical child vigilante wielding an elven branched spear, but I'd like to only use it while in my vigilante identity.

What are some good (preferably 1pp) ways to conceal a fucking elven branched spear at low levels while I'm in my social identity?

Do you think it would be unbalanced to ask my DM to allow me to turn either a dagger or a staff/banner into the spear during my magical girl transformation?
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>>52360376
the transformation thing seems to be the best way, ask your DM about it
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>Lysnander already confirmed
Calling it now, Pene and Drummond are next to be confirmed.
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>>52360376
>magical child
be anything else.
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>>52360338
Nothing wrong with hanging out with your boyfriend, Anon.
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>>52360387
Drummond is a miserable choice. Probably worst boy
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>>52360376
Well, if you're playing a girl, you've got the perfect place to stick it when you're not using it...

fold it once and strap it to the inside of your leg when you wear a big dress
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>>52360348
Again I'm not opposed to it. I don't really see what's good about Lysander the character but it makes sense to pick with player compatibility in mind. It just seems like an awful management decision to do that openly but not like, announce it properly too. Gotta pretend it's an open recruitment, HR's mistake was being too honest, instead of just lying and playing his role right
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>>52360417
>Pene, Lysander, Drummond
It fits. There's no other app that starts with D.
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>>52360432
https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/4816192/announcements/?pageforid=4819277#post-4819277
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>>52360400
> he does not wish to be the little girl
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>>52360448
Rename Sage to Page
Rename Bonbon to Dondon
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>>52360457
Wait. That's even worse than just including Lysander for preference. He said he was keeping the 1st deadline when he closed early. This just fucks anyone who's going to catch up later.
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>>52360457
is vult retarded
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>>52360499

So basically, if one of the "good" apps is out at work or busy on a Saturday (or even the weekend) than they might come back to the computer and find all the slots are filled?
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>>52360376
Step 1 would be "don't be a magical child, take something else then use a social talent for the transformation sequence", but clearly it's too late for that.
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>>52360499
>/pfg/ GMs
>keeping their promises
Remember, SwimmingEagle said he'd give people two days to finish their apps before announcing his selection, and then announced his selection the following day.

>>52360518
But anon, there ARE no good apps. So your point is moot.
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>>52360528
did he ever say that?
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>>52360538

He said he was closing apps "early" and then closed them that afternoon.
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>>52360387
>mfw by cross-checking DM's and Fairy's schedules I cannot get in because mine doesn't coincide on the same days as theirs do
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>>52360528
the bamboozling 2: electric boogaloo
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Fun fact - the only reasons to use a greatsword instead of a greataxe are if you're boring or a Gorumite, which are basically the same thing.
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>>52360518
That and it runs in direct contradiction of, well, everything previously known. I'm 100% cool with DMs dick picking or whatever arbitrary reason they pick but it seems irresponsible not to handle this more careful
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>>52360549
how is that two days?

Regardless he had clearly selected what players he wanted
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>>52360518

>Busy
>Saturday
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>>52360554
You also want a Greatsword if you want to do Zursvaater Mystic/Animus Adept/Sentinel fire damage spam
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>>52360525
You mean like the cabalist or the warlock so I can get the tattoo thingy? But that would mean no animal mascot until level 6...
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>>52360554

That's a big fat lie and you know it! Everyone knows the best two-handed weapon is the Longspear!
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>>52360580
But that's not how you spell elven branched spear or lucerne hammer.
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....wait

Lysander's player is Puella Reviewer, isn't it?

KEK.

THE REVIEWER LITERALLY TORE EVERYONE ELSE DOWN TO PROMOTE THEMSELVES AND GOT IN
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>>52360577
>cabalist/warlock

Never play warlock unless you either hate yourself or have access to Jolly's content, my dude. 1pp Warlock is to wizards what rogues are to vigilantes.
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>>52360574
Same concept as Gorum. You're picking a big dumb boring god to justify picking a big dumb boring weapon.
>>52360580
Except Greatsword and Greataxe do the same damage, so there's no mechanical reason to pick one over the other.
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>>52360620
>Lysander's player is Puella Reviewer, isn't it?

Yes.

Though he didn't tear anyone down, if there was *any* shilling going on it was everyone including Lysander as a freebie in the "post your group" posts.
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>>52360620
Christ.
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>>52360633
>Except Greatsword and Greataxe do the same damage

False.

Greataxe is 1d12, Greatsword is 2d6, the Greatsword is technically better by virtue of having more dice saving you from a nat 1.
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I expected PLD picks to go over poorly, but I expected reject salt, not the DM having the grace of a paraplegic buffalo.
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>>52360658
Its Vult, he's probably still reeing about the whole Aisha shit
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>>52360651
And having more dice keeping you from a nat 12.
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It's starting to hit me; I might not get in. I can't reuse this app; it's too specific to this type of game.

I'm worried, /pfg/. My character might be stillborn. I hate this feeling.
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>>52360682
Welcome to the club. Though the review I got did help me. I think I found the issue I've been having and how to fix it. And if not well, what can ya do?
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>>52360682
If you never apply, you never have to experience that feeling.
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>>52360658
Vult needed to just wait for the 1st and built his selection around Lysander. No one would be surprised and he wouldn't poke the hornets nest.
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>>52360682

I'm actually going to be sending out quiet invites to certain PLD applicants if they're compatible with my own (non-lewd) game.

If you tell me which app is yours, i can at least tell you whether you're on my invite list.
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>>52360682
>>52360701
>>52360707
I cope by being a gigantic faggot and applying to every game until something sticks.
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>>52360682

The sting goes away, the only thing worse than having a stillborn is having your character put in a group full of people you don't like.
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>>52360715
Have you considered making better apps?
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>>52360620
If it helps, I'm still up for doing people's reviews!
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>>52360722
you do realize how bad this looks, yes?
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>>52360722

We all know you're just gonna shill yourself a personal harem now. No.
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>>52360722
Run. You'll invite nothing but vitriol whether you're right or wrong.
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Alright, so DM and Lysander's schedules only coincide on tuedays or wednesdays. Now, time to check the schedules to see which players are still effectively in the run due to scheduling.
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>>52360711
Why not just post who's on your list?
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>>52360722
Let's hear your personal pick then. Who do you want to be your rape buddies? Don't be shy.
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>>52360721
Yeah.

I've actually been taking the criticism to heart and trying to build characters that are good supports and more integrated into the setting. Good way to stand out from 1000 punchgirls and ZS Sentinel Bushi Warders.
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>>52360742
*Wednesdays or Thursdays, rather.
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>>52360722
Review the taste of Vult's dick.
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>>52360711
>stealing someone else's work and using it as your own
scummier than openly running a rape game
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>>52360722
Sure. I haven't gotten around to edits from Vults review, but I'm churros to see if yours matches up.

[Spoiler]It's Lusicus.
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>>52360621
I can confirm, I play one in a campaign with newbies to gimp myself.

The more hilarious part is that I'm still the best damage dealer the group has. New players are so cute, taking Exotic Weapon Focus: Bastard sword and finding out it's not that great!
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>>52360749

Politeness, mostly. I don't want to be the guy who outright poaches people from PLD. Game and characterpoaching seems kind of rude. Even for me. So I figured I'd wait until Vult's done recruiting, and work on polishing my writeup.
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>>52360755
Genki punchgirl meta will end eventually, i believe in you
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>>52360784
Kill me.
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>>52360795
Not so long as Jolly keeps shilling his punchgirl harem.
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>>52360711
Drummond? I'm pretty much out of the running now due to scheduling conflicts.
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>>52360755
>ZS Sentinel
>Zweihander Sentinel Sentinel
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>>52360711
Yeah, I'm not on your list.
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>>52360550
Time to guess what party it will be based on disponibilities!
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>>52360812
>induring his game takes place at the same time PLD does.
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>>52360789
Fair enough. I look forward to it.
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>>52360814
>his ZS Zweihander Sentinel doesn't use a Sentinel Zweihander
>isn't the most ZweiSent ever
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>>52360722
Gloriana
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>>52360674
Expected value of 1d12 is 6.5, std dev is ~3.6.
Compare with expected value of 2d6 which is 7 and std dev which is ~2.4. Greataxe is just a gambler's weapon, usually worse than greatsword unless used for a few fringe builds.
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pfg, how do I buff my profession up?
I need to design the best cathedral ever with my Profession Architect, so my Paladin buddy can get married in it.
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>>52360844
Just take 20 on it? I'm assuming your profession is at least 10+?
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>>52360833
Did you update after Vult's review?
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>>52360857
Well yeah, I can and will take 20.
But it could be better with other sorts of buffs, and better is, well, better!
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>>52360880
Then why don't you make your own posting macrophage?
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New Thread

>>52360899
>>52360899
>>52360899
>>52360899
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>>52360880
>You've got a reputation
Huh. I wonder if I got a reputation.
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>>52360898

Still working on the writeup, Vult/Lily.

Like I said, I'm not sending out any invites until I know who's NOT getting into PLD. I don't want to playerpoach.
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>>52360870
Puellanalysis in cahoots! Knows private review information!
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>>52360870
Confidentiality is Key.
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>>52360898
>naming and shaming
Y u do dis tho?
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>>52360400
>>52360525
>>52360621
So basically you guys are trying to suggest that cabalist is the only viable archetype to play a magical girl warrior (using only 1pp) without wanting to kill myself?
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>>52360880
Drummond's player is a memeplayer?
What did he do?
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>>52360993
He's a nodachifag.
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>>52360993
he had the worst app to Hell's Vengeance out of the lot, easily.
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>>52360880

Oops. Case of mistaken identity. I thought you were someone I really didn't like, actually. The damage is kinda dealt, but I'm deleting that post anyways.
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>>52360907
Everyone has a reputation, we all have reputations. We're known as the BESTEST people on all of /tg/.
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RotRK applications seem to be closed.

Curious who will get in. Also wonder if anyone else will get caught off guard by the "closed 12 hours before the listed time" thing like I did.

Bah. At least I can save this app for something else.
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>>52361048
but he did make a garbage nodachifag for HV
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>>52361063
But the Nodachi is the ideal sword. You don't like it, but that's what peak performance looks like.
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>>52361029
>>52361063
I'd unironically throw out any app that includes nodachi or reactionary without a reason. It's just such a bad sign for a player
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>>52361093

t. Reviewanon who always whines about reactionary
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>>52361093
I always think to myself that I need Reactionary, but I can never justify it for the concepts I create, so I never take it. They're all too proactive and kind-hearted.

Elven Reflexes is my fucking jam, though. It's easy as fuck to justify an elf-looking nigga moving real fast.
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>>52361093
Agreed, it stinks of a player that cares more about optimization and marginal benefits than making a good character
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>>52360988
None of the caster vigilantes, except maybe zealot, are actually "good". Playable, yes, but that's just because they have spells. Cabalist has the worst of the bunch, though.
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>>52358384
That's worse than complaining about Casters not needing STR for anything. SoM classes, being martials, have to worry about all three physical stats+wisdom for will saves. Shit's MAD enough, don't make it worse.
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