Warhammer 40k general

first for plastic noise marines

First for MY opinions are FACTS.

Robert girlyman is da bes

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Dante book share anyone?

Last thread reminded me why I didn't bother with 40kg. It's just full of shitposters making claims based on their opinions and nothing more. Disgusting desu.

I'm out lads. Global Rule 3 is never enforced for those people it seems.

What hobby are you guys moving on to?

I need to pick one army,
Orks, daemons or blood angels?

>>52330200
>>>/wsr/

>>52330180
>tries to restructure da impeerum
>ruins everything because the common people are institutionalized
>Chaos takes advantage of the Imperial dissary left in girlyman's wake
>chaos wins
>Alphariussmug.jpeg

>>52330204
Shitposting.

Oh, shit. I'm already doing that.

Full time shitposting.

Oh...

Um... What game is going to be shilled now? Last time it was KoW. So, Warmachines?

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post yfw Gladius Strike Force will be abolished exactly one year from now

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Soon the movement stat will be back. Should Pulse Rifles make Firewarriors slower, or just as fast as Guardmen (carbines allowing them to go faster)?

>>52330223
What do non-ultramarines thing of girlyman anyways now that he's back?

>>52330265

The ground appears to have a fair amount of molten rock on it in that picture. Why exactly is he kneeling on it?

>>52330265
This image just makes me miss Orcas.

>>52330268
No non-UM's see him, really. Sisters of Silence don't care. Custodes don't care. I can't remember. Nothing major happens. Cypher doesn't care.

>>52330287
its just ashes and cinders you nerd

>>52330265
Why would their choice of rifle effect their movement stat?

Rudolf the neck beard grognard, always has a shitty day, and if you ever saw him, you would laugh and call him gay, most of the /tg/ gamers, have no issues having fun, but Rudolf the neck beard grognard, thinks hes the important one, then in twenty seventeen, G dubs came to say, age of sigmars here to stay, now let's go fix 40k, then most of /tg/ smiled, happy for the changes yay! Rudolf the neck beard grognard, hung himself alone that day, hung himself aloooooone thaaaaaaat daaaaaaay

>>52330331
Not sure if trolling or an idiot.

>>52330268
Pretty much the same as everyone else. As in they are awestruck at the sight of a living Primarch.

When will newfags stop making general threads?

>>52330331
K, looking forward to what girlyman does

>>52330200
That's weird, how did that sigmarine get a jump pack?

>>52330346

They are big rifles.

>>52330361
The SoS aren't awed. The Custodes aren't awed. Cypher isn't awed (this is literally a talking point in the White Dwarf). The regular citizens are. But I honestly don't remember any non-UM or non-UM successors commenting on them.

The Imperial Fists landed but they didn't comment on him.

>>52330346
Just armchair rules making here but that wouldn't be a bad idea. Make it also work with other similar guns like shotguns.

Probably won't see use outside of necromunda lite games though.

>>52330379
Per tu

>all these shitposts and there is only 27 posts

I'm not even going to point them out. You can easily find them yourself.

>>52330410
I don't even know what to filter for at this point..

>>52330387
You looking forward to Necromunda's new edition and the video game?

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post cultist chan

>>52330268
Bt pissed with his releasionship with a zenos

>>52330426
I'll check out shadow war, not thinking too much about the vidya.

>>52330203
And nothing of value was lost.
See you tomorrow groggy.

>>52330364
Never?
Because all the neckbeards are going to finally sell their models and leave the hobby because orks are getting fixed. Didn't you hear?

>>52330385
Loyalist Dark Angels showed up and were pretty impressed.

>>52330424
Honestly just going to not bother any more. Think /tg/ is too far gone to be honest. I've been on other boards and see so much 40k I've come to the conclusion thanks to the Trump is the Emperor memes (which is totally anti what /pol/ wants, but they've never read a book about him) we've been invaded by crossboarders who just shitpost after reading 1d4chan.

>>52330461
How retarded are you?

The people posting nothing but opinions and anecdotes were the ones called groggy just last thread.

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>>52330457
No, I mean, the new edition of Necromunda, not Shadow War. It should be out either this year or next.

>>52330265
>Fire warriors ride their guns like quidditch brooms for 12'' movement.

>there was half a page of vague concepts GW is grappling with
>oh boy gotta make 600 shitposts
They are very clearly at the first step of designing an edition. If you have an issue email them or something. There is still time. If both us and GW act like adults this can work.

ORKS
TYRANIDS
SISTERS

ALL
FUCKING
SHIT

New 8E force org chart

5-10 HQ (must form one squad and cannot split up)
1-2 Troops (+12 mandatory troops for Orks)
0-8 elites
0-3 fast attack
5-10 heavy support
15-35 LoW

>>52330385

>SoS aren't awed

They exist to serve, They don't know the meaning of free time, or feelings.

>The Custodes aren't awed

They literally knelt to Guilliman in private after extracting him from the moon.

>Cypher isn't awed

Cypher is either (A) from the time of the Great Crusade or (B) doesn't give a fuck about anything except his true mission.

>The Imperial Fists landed but they didn't comment on him.

They are too occupied with repairs to the Phalanx, and they were probably watching the parade live from orbit in their free time.

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>>52330495
>guys...my closest friends...I'm done
>I'm just done, I can't take these posts
>I have been CYBERBULLIED
>I'm leaving...I know you all will miss me dearly
>jk I'm not leaving I gotta prove Space Marines have been treated more unfairly than orks

>>52330517
Can you post it?

>>52330461

Different anon, but it's got nothing to do with the being a grognard.
The sky is falling shit posting is through the roof, people are bitching because current mechanics won't play nice with the new ones and they're ignoring that'll likely change too etc.
They've just been a write off.

>>52330517
>/40kg/ after any new announcement
>adults
A majority of people here are not capable of acting like adults, I fear.

>>52330504
It'll probably be next, they still have a lot of work with blood bowl to update model lines with the season 1 book, swa will give a glimpse at what they are planning if they don't outright say "lol it's necromunda", and Battlefleet gothic was the game on that list I was most fond of.

>>52330548
What?

The guy that said was leaving was of your own fucking opinion you moron.

>>52330483
Nah its not like that, we simply got sick and tired of shit posters coming here and whining so we shit post back. Ignoring them doesn't work at all, but maybe I of we call them retarded enough times they might actually kill themselves.

We don't have to ignore the big elephant in the room and put up with their shit anymore, simply telling them to fuck off repeatedly will give us the desired results. I can already feel the balance of power shifting over these last two days, the grognards are losing.

What do you think of the new deep strike rules? I personally think GW implemented them just to sell more models. Having to buy a new drop pod after every game is ridiculous.

>>52330268
muh spiritual liege

>>52330632
Shitposting is not an excuse for shitposting. You are as much of a cancer to these threads as they are.

>>52330645
I'll just convert them out of kettle balls

>>52330435
But BT teamed up with the aelfdari themselves. I'm sure they understand.

>>52330645

It's a great buff for me because my Zagstrukk model is metal. I've already played a few test games and he hits HARD when he lands! Taken out quite a few squads that way.

>>52330268
>girlyman is not actually apharius in disguise

Fuck this gay earth.

What do you guys think of Iron warriors?

>>52330376
Squats made them.

>>52330667
Nah man, your pacifist bullshit doesn't serve anything. You need to meet force with force. Today I witnessed dozens of people telling the shit posters to fuck off, and the shit posters were so desperate to retain control they keep making mew threads earlier and earlier. This is gonna get ugly before it gets better I promise you that, these fuckers need to go down crying.

On that note I'm really happy the 40k rules are getting simplified, AoS is the most fun I've had in warhammer for years, and I can't wait for 40k to be more like that.

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>>52330360
Kek

>>52330588
>Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

>>52330504
I could see a new "Necromunda" having the same ruleset as Shadow War with "Necromunda" being made just to re-skin Shadow War and sell gang miniatures.

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>>52330360
That got a good belly laugh out of me, thanks anon

>>52330731
I like them. Rules are kinda situational but pick whatever legion you think looks cool.

t. Thousand Sons player

How do we fix Deathwatch?

>call the codex Ordo Xenos or Alienhunters
>add unique models related to Ordo Xenos

>>52330772
But I have no intention of leaving right now, am not that anon and wouldn't even announce leaving because why would anyone care about a random non-tripping anon leaving the thread?

>>52330731

CHAPTER MASTER SMASHFUCKER

>>52330748
I watched a grognard scream and cry about space marines being worse than orks and I saw five people correct him using facts until he fled the thread.That sting keeps him around.

>>52330801

Is Iron Hands you dumb meming cunt.

>>52330790
I love you man. Thousand sons are awesome. Would make a fine ally for my iron warriors. I feel people shit on your units too much. The death star potential for scarab occult terminators is unreal

>>52330213

Deamons.

>>52330818
>I watched a grognard scream and cry
How?
I didn't know 4chan had facecam.

>>52330360
Doesn't that guy spam Cheetah images?

>>52330818
>having to lie when talking about telling Grognard to fuck off
He never claimed they were worse than orks, you are literally lying for the sole purpose of resulting in more shitposting.

Space Marines are far better off than orks, no question about it, and the new rules are a step in the right direction but fucking hell stop making shit up already, people have been telling you for 2 threads.

>>52330847
>2017
>Doesn't have ChanCam installed

Ishiggydiggy do wop de bop

>>52330387
You could make it something simple, like shooting an assault weapon allows you to move 1/2 inches before or after firing.

That would actually help a bit with mobility, allowing assault units to close the gap more easily, and let shooting units with close range assault guns keep their distance a bit better.

>>52330792
Maybe change "Mission tatcitc" with preffered enemy Xenos.

>>52330799
>wouldn't even announce leaving because why would anyone care about a random non-tripping anon leaving the thread?
ask
>>>52330203

>>52330180
Don't you know that Robot Girlyman is worse than Ghazkull? My gut is never wrong except when I eat chinese food over your miniature's at half time, for I am the grog Space Marine player.

>>52330424
/40kg/ is a safe bet, get some work done and come back in a month.

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Wound rolls are for the birds, NEIN?

>>52330863
Why would an innocent man be this triggered by an obscure reference.

Hello Groggy.

You may try to lie away the responses you received from posting >>52327149 but it seems based on the responses your nonfactual claims netted I'd say the thread turned on you, Groggy.

So, all things considered

Which traitor legions is the best?

Does anyone have a pdf of Gangs of Commorragh rules please? Ordered 2 at the start of the month and they've been delayed til April.

>>52330969
Because I don't want this to devolve into even more of a shithole because of your continuous groggy boogeyman shitposting this entire thread long.

>>52330932
read
>>52330548


Wahh wahh my monobuild space marine list is so limited, what with the bikes and jetpacks and charging from deepstrike. Those dang orks stomp me all the time.

>>52330970
Death Guard by far.

Not even any contest at all.

>>52330970
Death Guard. I mean what other God actually loves his worshippers? Tzeentch? LOL Khorne? Khorne is the God of hate. Slaanesh? If you love everything, do you truly love anything?

>>52331008
Lore wise unless that's what you mean

>>52330970
Death guard, by a mile.

The special rules they get are just so much better than other legions.

>>52330990
>it's totally not me
Sure thing.

>>52330966
Tzeentch hounds

>>52331017
That's opinion territory and so not worth the time.

>>52331019
Are death guard fun to play? I really love my Iron warriors

>>52330970
death guard because they get Relentless

but that DOES NOT mean you should footslog a ton of plague marines

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>>52330970
Death guard, look how happy they are

>>52331042
They were unkillablest-tier and fun as hell for that reason until Rubrick marines became even more unkillabler so DG have been kinda fucked over in that regard.

>>52331011
>Slaanesh? If you love everything, do you truly love anything?
Aren't slaaneshi more Nihilist?
"There is no meaning only sensation, so take all you can get"

>>52331042
Footslogging heavy weapons
lots of unwieldy weapons
terminators
No points to spend on anything more

>>52331038
The only "grognard posts" in this entire thread are you shitposting about "muh groggy said muh orks are better than SM". Just shutting up about him would've solved all that stuff already and would've saved this thread a good dozen of unnecessary posts.

>>52331042
Well where IW are "stand in cover and shoot shit to shit", DG are "wade forwards shrugging off incoming fire and shoot shit to shit"

>>52331071
>T5 FnP relentless terminators
Why must my iron warriors suffer like this

>>52331067
>Rubrick marines became even more unkillabler
>T4
>no FnP

>>52331098
Cause god hates campers.

>>52331098
Dont forget fearless and rerolling FnP of 1 in their decurion.

>>52331125
Also Stealth at long range

>>52330136
>tournament lists
>dictating what's good to casuals
>casual space marines that make up the majority of the player base
>celestine isn't god tier in casual meta

8th edition can't come soon enough, grognards and waac fags utterly btfo soon

>>52331136
I thought it was just flat out stealth?

>>52330990
We're not asking for people to agree on everything, discussion and arguments are expected and personally encouraged I think. The shit posters who serve no real purpose other than to derail the thread need to go. Green texting a one liner doesn't create conversation, it's just some ass clown that wants to be entertained, so tell them to fuck off instead of arguing with them or ignoring them

>>52331136
That's more a benefit to bikers and guys in cover than termies with their inherent 5++

>>52331147
Na 18" away to count.

>>52331095
I know it isn't fluffy but I really love the idea of fast deathguard who don't stop for anything

a bunch of plasmagun raptors and possessed las predators sounds like a fun list, albeit a questionable one

>>52330390
Am I reading catalan in /w40kgt/?

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>>52330136
>core Space Marine rules are only the core codex and Angels of Death
>most HQ characters are pretty bad and even a 90 point T4 W3 3+/4++ model is mediocre
>most options are outclassed by Grav in every regard and have equivalents in other codices/are from the core rules
>Can't assault from drop pods and have exactly 2 formations that allow Assault Squads to charge from Deep Strike with Jetpacks
>backbone unit of the army is overcosted and can't do shit

>Marines are actually a broken codex.

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If you cut out all of the lore and all of the pointless and unnecessary rules from the main rulebook, how short do you think you could make it before fucking up the game too bad?

>>52331177
>I know it isn't fluffy
For 30k deathguard, people ask like they haven't been splintered in to warbands for 10k years.

>>52331198
Depends on how much you condensed the size of things. I think you could probably fit everything necessary in under 50 pages.

>>52331211
I've also seen people sperg whenever someone has a DG list that contains or or more units that aren't on foot

>>52331177
>>52331211
I could certainly see a cool Nurgle army based around that. Mock up all the Raptors as Plague Doctors and have them be spreading clouds of disease as they fly.

Good news to my fellow Adeptus Astartes players.

When the new edition hits, no matter how much they change the rules, we'll still be OP.

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So i forgot to order some biel tan green wash for my grots. Can I just thin Warboss green (layer) down realllllly hard and use that?

>>52331231
Spergs gotta.

That said I do get triggered when i see 2x5 plague marines with double plas and then 3x5 bikers with full biker HQ attached.

>>52331240

thats the shit.

>>52331231
>pick Nurgle Bikers for my DG warband army
>NOOOO THAT ISN'T FLUFFY REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>52330966
This triggers the Australian

>>52331250
No. Wash has a different formulation and is not just thinned paint. It won't work how you want.

You can kinda make it work if you only use it a recess shade and not an all over shade, but that's a lot more effort and necessary skill.

>>52331250

You don't have $5 lying around somewhere?

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>>52331080
>Groggy got triggered

>>52331330
Those aren't emus they're ostriches.

>>52331344
5$ plus 7$ shipping and 3 day delivery with 2 day weekend delay.

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>>52331198
I want GW to sell molds and some special green stuff that goes into the molds so we can print our own armies.

>>52331240
I actually quite like the style of the current Raptor / Warp talon kit myself

---

While Nurgle is usually associated with disease, he is also associated with apathy. You know the kind of video game player who speeds through a game because they don't really care, triggering everyone who does care?

They don't care about anything anymore. No pity, no remorse, no fear. They go fast and plow through anything in the way. Dozer blades on all the tanks are a must. Shooting didn't take out a unit? Doesn't matter gotta go fast charge it and be done with it, that is why you have relentless. Straight forward, but not out of a lust to kill, not for the thrill of battle, not as part of any clever plan, but to get it over with as soon as possible.

>>52331249
Unless you give me that in physical black-on-dead-tree, officially signed by you and everybody who works for GW guarantee, which offers vast riches if it doesn't turn out to be true, I refuse to believe that :^)

>>52331240
>>52331177
Death guard made extensive use of Destroyer Marines in 30k(Nasty shit specialists. Phosphex, Rad weapons, etc.), and those squads were known to use Jump Packs in order to better rain down that garbage on their enemies.

>>52331389

>get blue stuff
>go to bit sellers for the bits you want
>recast with greenstuff mixed with miliput
>???
>don't profit, because that would be amoral you little shit

>>52331359
Potayto, potahto!

>>52331250

While both shade and base paints are acrylic, the pigments and mediums in them make them behave very differently.

If you watered it down and added flow improver to a base, you might get similar results, but they wouldn't be the same.

Maybe just get the grots base coat down and order your shade for later...

>>52330481
Do they know hes with Cypher is working with him? Wouldn't they flip their shit and start shooting?

>>52331146
YES!

>>52331292
>Grognard runs unfluffy WAAC army
>B-Buh muh dudes they're MINE SO YOU CAN'T COMPLAIN about what I bring to the table REEEEEE
If your army doesn't drive people away your body odor certainly will.

I've been painting these models for a while but never played a game, which I want to do soon. Since 8th is coming soon, does that mean new codexes are coming soon as well? Like should I not buy anything right now other than models?

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In hopes of getting past this constant shitposting:

How does this kind of list look for a 3-player Combat Patrol game against Necrons and Imperial Fists?

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>>52330149
>unit's one advantage is having really high initiative
>now any schmuck can get that just for charging

Even when while armies get better, wyches are still total dog shit.

Kill me.

>>52331499
grognards and waac players are equally bad

I just want a fun army that doesn't get tabled on turn 2

>>52330504

Shadow War is the new Necromunda... sorry to disappoint you.

>>52331465
why do dark angels dislike cypher?

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>>52330428

>>52330287
he enjoys the feeling of his knees melting

>>52331583
He's fallen bro.

dawn of war 3 open beta when

>>52331618
He's chaos?

>>52331544
saved

>>52330287
>molten rock
It's ash with cinders flygin on the air.

Is there any cheaper way to field a SM HQ without going CAD?

>>52331627

Never. Nobody would buy the game if they knew how shit it was. I wouldn't expect to see any reviews before it comes out either.

>>52331679
They already said they're doing an open beta friend, and that "everyone will have a chance to play before it is officially released"

>>52331678
Allied detatchment.

>>52331700

Then they are either fools or are making significant changes.

>>52331716
t. jump autist

>>52331535

I have no idea what combat patrol is.

That being said it looks pretty decent. Personally, and this is just me, I would ditch the dune crawler and stock up on dragoons. Maybe an Ironstrider. At low point levels and with saturated fields where they can get into combat quickly they kick ass.

>>52331583
My opinion:
He's going to redeem the Fallen in the eyes of the Emperor, wake The Lion, and expose the regular dangles.
I feel like they've been lied to, so the ones today really are loyal too.

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>>52331734
Only have 1 Dragoon right now and don't plan on spending a few hundos right now, hence the Crawler.

And Combat Patrol is an Adepticon game mode with modified CAD and a no-Formations rule, basically.

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>>52331734
>I have no idea what combat patrol is.

400pt game, it was made by GW first but here's a more up to date fan version.

>>52331701
Allied Detachment can't be Primary and need that Warlord. Then again:
>"Warlord: If Lias Issodon is part of an army then he will always be the army’s Warlord, regardless of the Leadership value of other HQ choices."
Think he'd be Warlord even in an Allied Detachment?
>This Detachment cannot be your Primary Detachment.
>Your Warlord can never be chosen from this Detachment.
Or would that just make it impossible to take him as an ally?

>>52331499
>plague bikers are waac
you sound like a retard who never wins and you only win because of your "honour" or some other fedorable code

>>52331803
need that Warlord
Should have said that from the start then.

>>52331417
All the blue stuff is out of stock though.

If I was Chinese this would be how I feed my family.

Do you think Z's set up is sophisticated?

>>52331784

alright. Nothing wrong with the crawler. I built up my number of dragoons one at a time over months, but now that I have them all I can honestly say I think it was worth it. I love those things so much. My chicken walkers fill a very important hole in my army.

>>52331826
Yeah, my bad. Any ideas?

>>52331564
I was actually curious to see how they'd nerf Wyches come 8th edition. I'm sure geedubs has something up their sleeve.

>>52330213
Orks are most fun by far, but will lose a lot in competitive matches

>>52331848
sillicone molds with spincast rotor.

>>52331861
His and 2x camo cloak bolter scouts.

Obsec troops that can infiltrate ahead, cover camp with the best of them and shoot rending bolters.

>>52331110
>4++

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>Faggots actually think spehs muhreens will still be no girls allowed by the end of the year

Where goeth AoS, there goeth 40k.

>>52331923
based doomsayer grognard

>>52331923
No, Faggots play 30k where they can enjoy marine on marine oiled up bara battles.

>>52331923
It's about time. Having Space Marines being an all boys club is a product of an older, less sophisticated time.

>>52331871

Buffing everyone else while they remain the same is essentially a nerf, especially since charging guardsmen will defeat wyches in close combat. Then again if the guardsmen can charge wyches, they're already dead from the lasguns.

Hellions are kind of in the same boat.

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>>52331964

>>52331923
Female Sigmarines existed in the AoS fluff from the start. I'm not sure why they would do female Marines when they can just do SoB so much easier.

>>52331922
So I drown your pitiful t4 with 30 ap- wounds, whats yo armour save mage boi?

>>52331923
>shitposters still don't understand the whole "lore" thing
Why am I not surprised?

>>52331525
To be safe, yes.

>>52332025
Ok, thanks.

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>>52331923
Cant wait for the beast rape r34

>>52331949
30k player, can confirm.

Occasionally we invite the magos over for some hyper powered dildo action.

>>52332022
lore is flexible and easily ignored just ask and black library author

>guy comes in with at least $1000 USD of 30k and Dangles, some Forge Workd

>its all carried in battered GW boxes

>the models are heaped ontop of each other, some clearly damaged from rough handling

>'tranport cases are too expensive'

ANYONE ELSE GET ''''''TRIGGERED''''''' BY THIS TYPE OF STUFF??

>>52331564
>changing how the majority of the game works
>not changing specifics relying on aspects changing.

Better get under cover, chicken little.

>>52332038
Do Flesh Hounds have a knot?

>>52332049
i'm more triggered by your shitty reddit spacing

Is there a black library mega about?

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>>52332069

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Who else is enjoying the grogpocalypse?

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Anyone have army files for tabletop simulator?

I just bullied an Ork player today and he started crying and ran home.

What a fucking noob!

>>52332105
>literally nothimg matters, not even the thoughts in your own head

fug

>>52330548
On a tangeant but honestly I don't understand how cyberbullying can drive someone to suicide.

>>52331197
>Can't assault from drop pods and have exactly 2 formations that allow Assault Squads to charge from Deep Strike with Jetpacks

And one of those formations is so broken that many people outright refuse to play against it outside of tournaments.

>most options are outclassed by Grav in every regard and have equivalents in other codices/are from the core rules
Oh how terrible! You have one of the most powerful heavy weapons in the game and it overshadows the other weapons and their equivalents! Only the world's smallest violin could express the sorrow I feel for you!

Im done. Its over. Later guys.

>>52332105
Took /40kg/ from low quality to no quality.

At least now I don't have to make any effort at all, nothing i do can lower the quality of the threads.

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>>52332066

>implying a list like this will EVER be good

>>52332133
I am as we speak unfucking the tyranid kraken mod.

>>52332069
why would they? dicks aren't useful for killing, spilling blood, tracking down betrayers, hunting psykers and collecting skulls.

>>52332105
eh, this happens everything edition change

>>52332163
make sure to sell your stuff for cheap on the way out

>>52331125
Stop my suffering. We just get a fucking 6 up FnP

Honestly, the only thing I'm afraid of in regards to 8e is getting more info about things, seeing how people's general IQ went deep down into the abyss and the shitposting rate grew so fucking much over such a minor tidbit of information.

>>52332163
Good call, maybe the general will be worthwhile sometime in August.

>>52332188
Good for you. Could you share files for any army? I just downloaded simulator to run some tutorial games with friend but can't actually find any working files

>>52332163
see you soon

>>52332154
People don't do well when they feel isolated by their peer groups.

>>52332230
There's a pretty big batch over somewhere on reddit that has links to almost all Workshop files.

>>52332214
Also stubborn on fortifications, tank hunter heavies and preferred enemy against the army noone wants to paint.

>>52331923
GIVE.
MY GUARDSMEN.
THE WOMENS.
FIRST!
D:<

And don't talk to me about third party heads or independent characters or god forbid 20 year old metal sculpts. I want today's quality plastic in my troops slot, and I want GW itself to acknowledge that WE are the all-inclusive human faction!

(Mutants and xenos don't count)

Should I abandon my Iron warriors and go death guard? I love my dudes but damn... they pale in comparison to death guard on the table top...

I dont wanna abandon my dudes but man they seem good...

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>>52332163
Cya

>>52332155
see
>>52327149

This grognard was way off his meds when he went on a shitpost meltdown about how space marines were worse than orks. Good thing 40kg sorted his incorrect opinions out.

>>52332141
you shouldn't read it like that anon, it's not about it

>>52332271
>Stubborn on Fortifications

Other Legions get fearless for free, and with free VotLW it isn't actually that big of a problem.

Tank Hunter is nice, but it only benefits Havocs and Obliterators.

>>52332294
>abandoning your army
>ever
Fuck you, don't even think about that. You can start another army but don't leave your dudes behind just because they're not the literal best thing available. I'm still playing Black Templars and they're also the absolute bottom-of-the-barrel for Space Marines.

>>52332280
>or god forbid 20 year old metal sculpts
shit taste pleb

>>52332163
see
>>52330772
and
>>52330878

>>52332230
About half of the armies on the steam workshop still work. The ones that don't are the ones which used dropbox for file hosting. Things like the ultramarines army, admech army or astra militarum armies which used sensible storage like the steam cloud or google drive all still work.

>>52332297
Hilariously, the first time Orks were even mentioned in comparison to Marines in that thread was in a response to that post and never by the supposed Grognard himself.

>>52332294
What the hell am I thinking, I can never abandon my dudes

MY God damn dudes. I'll never leave my precious iron warriors

>>52332182
How do you lower that which does not exist?

Do we go into negatives? Or do we create the singularity of suck; Stripping away entire imageboards of their talent to fuel our endless hunger for shitposting?

>>52332338
Man, I've corrected my head. I'm never gonna abandon my sweet ass iron asses. Iron warriors for life >>52332342

>>52332257
I'm not gonna lie - trying my best but found nothing
>>52332357
About half of the armies on the steam workshop still work
Well, I have no access for ws files with my version

>>52332357
I really wish there would be a different way for mod creators for TTS to store their stuff. Loading from a third-party source is always so fucking wonky.

>>52332342
Shit didn't mean to reply to you

>>52332338
>being emotionally attached to a chapter you ripped from the lore

>>52331417

>>52331417

>recast with greenstuff mixed with milliput

I'm trying blue stuff for first time with just milliput. Why would you mix with green stuff? Thought it was an entire/or thing.

>>52332416
They can't use the Workshop?

>>52332384
Lieki just said, can't low it, not even with inane meta-garbage, hell I could evne do a porn dump since a ban would do nothing as there's no worthwhile discussions to be had.

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Greetings fellow mid tier army players! How's it hanging? Also when is GW going to do something to the xenos menace and daemon dominance in this game?

>>52332338
You know what, Black Templars are pretty fuckin bad ass too. Fuck the rules, all that matters is how cool you think they are

>>52332437
Fuck you. I'm not him but man if he wants to love his space crusaders then let him

>>52332414
Just checked, apparently that thread was deleted for some reason. Huh.

Is it possible to just link all my subscribed items? Would do so if I could.

>>52332441
They can upload the mods, but the actual files for those mods (i.e. models) are stored elsewhere, probably to protect the devs from any copyright issues.

>>52332437
>not having a bond to your first ever models and army
You emotionless sack of shit can just go right the other way.

How mandatory is it for a non-cheese SM armies to bring AM meatshields?

>>52330136
Black library mega https://mega.nz/#F!wx4BiKhD!YhnAf1BqSmAB8dO6xDM56Q

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>check price for Deldar weapons
>blasters are $7-10 plus shipping
>also going to need more Scourge weapons
>mfw

>>52332515
You can just upload the files to the steam cloud, but modders are apparently pretty dumb and didn't.

>>52332532
never said I didn't have a bond to my first army, bud
what i'm saying is you're a loser for being attached to a chapter you ripped from the lore

>>52331600
>pink undies
She's khorne up front, but slaanesh in bed

>>52332554
Just do what everyone else does and clip bits off the shredder until it looks like a blaster.

>>52332554
pic just made me cry laughing and i've seen it countless times before
never gets old

>>52330537

If you play tau you must field a riptide wing and if you play eldar you have to field a wraithknight in order to play.

>>52331197

Oh anon, your monobuilds with jetpacks and bikes and drop pods and underpriced HQs and IG allies must be such a heavy burden to win with in all four of your viable army builds.

>>52332338
>templars are bottom of the barrel marines
Woah now brother, we aren't salamanders

>>52332575

I'm autistically magnetizing my weapons, which includes the Shredders that aren't actually terrible weapons.

>>52332560
You're not a loser if you play a chapter you love.

>>52332614
a chapter thousands of others are playing right now
nice

>>52332627
Yeah, so? Fuck are you gonna do about it, asshole?

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>>52332085

>anon thinking the majority dont browse reddit, facebook, twitter, tumblr and other social media outlets in edition yo 'muh sooper serkrit nerd club 4chunz'

>>52332652
make fun of you until you get assblasted on 4chan
my work here is done, faggot

>>52332294
>night lords get completely worthless everything except Stealth
>DG get fnp, fearless, relentless and stealth
>AND STEALTH

>>52332658
not him, speak for yourself, faggot

>>52332668
Neck yourself

>>52332105
I don't mind change, I just mind the fact that I spent so much time and money in the past few months getting everything ready and fully understanding things and the meta only to have to change so soon. I'm going to have to play as much as I can before my fun army ideas are changed. I want to get full use before things change.

>>52332560
>ripped from the lore
What is that even supposed to mean? I just love their aesthetic and the way they fight, as well as their unconventional chapter organization. It's better to just 'join' that chapter's playerbase than to make "speshul snofleks" that are in all essence identical to an existing chapter.

Besides, I have a custom AdMech army and fluff for them as well since their usual "everything is shades of red" look didn't suit me and their general ideology is bland enough to allow tons of customization.

>>52332600
Playing Salamanders with a lot of Flamers or Meltas isn't terrible. Melta Troops are alright and can be really fucking useful and flamers usually also have a use at some point in the game.

Meanwhile 20-man footslogging blobs never work, Land Raiders are shut down in a turn and overwhelming things in combat in a single assault phase is just as bad as being locked in combat with a shooting unit because of the shitty "3+/4+/5+ to hit in melee, no matter what you fight". Salamanders get to use the powerful parts of the codex without deviating from their fluff, Templars don't really have that option and can't even access one of the integral SM units.

At least we're the best vanilla Marines in melee combat. If that actually were a tactic that worked these days without Alpha Strike formations.

>>52331061

Aren't all who're devoted to nurgle happy lorewise? I mean he loves his followers

>>52332691
nice retort retard

>>52332085
>reddit spacing

>falling for the tired meme

>everyone so cucked by GW that they think 40k being like AoS is an improvement

fucking kek

>>52332711
>unironically browsing reddit
nice bud

>>52332437

>HAHAHA FAGS LIKING THINGS THAT ARE WRITTEN ABOUT AND CHARACTERIZED IN AN APPEALING WAY! WHAT A BUNCH OF DOPES, THEIR FAVORITES WILL NEVER BE AS COOL AS MY SUPER SPECIAL HOMEBREW CHAPTER THAT IS SUPER CREATIVE BECAUSE MUH HEAD CANONS

Go write yourself a novel and shove it up your ass, faggo.

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>>52332736
>reddit bogeyman

I bet you get triggered by filenames too...

>>52332771
I'm just bothered by the "Halo", really.

Not that anon, he's an idiot.

>>52332716

'Waah why isnt it like 5th edition, the edition i came in with like every other DoW playing faggot on this shitty board, that is clearly the best edition'

You can go ahead and lie in defenstration, pretending to be an old greybeard so you ''''look superior'''' to a bunch of internet shut ins, but you know its true. Shit, you might have cone in with 7th and never even played the game, shitposter-chan! Wouldn't that be a pickle?

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>>52332600
>salamanders
>librarians
>characters get free mastercrafted
>flamers get shred and reroll failed armor pen
>4+ feel no pain against flamers
>vulkan gives mastercrafted to all melta weapons

>black templars
>crusader squads
>crusader and adamantium will
>gain rage and counter attack if you take damage
>characters get rending and reroll misses in challenges

it's okay anon, sometimes being a zealot to your army makes you blind

>>52331998
There is no way that is a female imperial marine.

Her hair is too long. That long and shaggy look would never cut it outside of space wolves. Sorry get that woman a proper GI-Jane cut. Pixie cut at longest or get her the hell out and find yourself new head to use. Speaking of...using that art style that doesn't match the art style of the picture your swapping it onto also makes the picture look more off.

>>52332448
That armor-gun combo is nice.

>>52332758
hmm nice retort, sure proved me wrong
>>52332771
fuck off newfag

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>Abnett has the opportunity to officially chance the emperor's yiffs name from the shitty 'Space Wolves' to something decent sounding
>Goes with the nonsense, unpronouncable 'Vlka Fenryka'

fucks sake.

a chance to escape the wolfy mcwolferson of wolferton thing and he gives us that shit.

>>52332141

Embrace nurgle, embrace apathy and decay

>>52331061

>When you're a joyous happy soul who loves his patron diety but your Primarch is a bitter edgelord

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>>52332673
>be Joe Guardsman on the planet bumfuckistan prime, in the sector LitterallyJust-MadeUp
>This guy slowly walks your way, flies buzzing , forming a black cloud around him
>You see your mates liquifying and tanks melt
>"Oh boy, I sure wanna look over there again!"

>>52332859
What is this, baby's first troll?

At least do something entertaining if you're going to shitpost.

Anybody else think 8th sounds like it will work better with Kill Team-sized games?

>>52332915
Of course Morty is a bitter edgelord. He was raised by a Dark Eldar. That's their shtick.

>>52332829

What?! Do you mean just the emperors champion when you say rend and reroll misses?

>>52332946
wat

>>52332829
>salamanders get 4+ fnp vs flamers
>cause ppl use flamers against marines
I'll give you the master crafted meltas being slightly better than rage. But then again do you really want your entire army range 12-24?

>>52332974
When someone on 4chan says something obviously retarded it's best to ignore it, it's either bait or someone to stupid to learn from any reply.

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How did I do /tg/? What should I fix?
Going vanilla renegades until I settle on a legion, if I ever do.

>>52332974
?

>>52332829
>mentions vulkans buffs but not Grimaldus giving fnp to everything around him
>or helbrecth giving the entire army re rolls for one turn
>implies 15 man crusader squads aren't the most cost effective way of fielding landraiders

>>52332987
Just because all your guys can get master crafted meltas doesn't mean you have to take them. Heck, you could take advantage of the master crafting on Characters to get a Centurion Sergeant with a Mastercrafted Grav-Cannon if you wanted. Or just take a Devastator squad or other things if you want some guys to have longer range.

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Did they change Deathworld Forest's color or something? The guides I've read show it looks more like Ogryn Camo when painted on, but mine is some deep-ass military green. (Mine isn't pic related)

>>52331964
I hope you and your family burn

Gangs of commorragh rules PLEASE!

>>52333084
Varies with what it's put over.

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>>52333109
>>52333084

Nothing. Just Imperial primer on one (ran out of primer for the rest)

>>52330136
I just spent £300 literally yesterday on a new Death Guard army. I bought the conversion kits from Forge World and everything.

Now I get the news that GW is bringing out a whole new line of Death Guard in the near future.

Man, if this came out yesterday I'd be hyped as fuck, but now I'm just disappointed.

>>52333057
The thing is that Salamanders get access to a detachment that buffs their chapter tactic while Black Templars do not get access to ANY formation that helps their CT.

Plus Land Raiders suck, they are huge point sinks with not much survivability and close combat in this edition also sucks coupled with the fact that BT are basically stuck in 5th ed with only being able to use a CAD/Castellans in order to use Crusader squads means that yeah BT are on the lower tiers of the SM codex.

DEATHGUARD WHEN!?

Preorder on the 7th maybe?

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>>52332987
>he doesn't use flamers against everything

Also

>list tailoring

>>52332069
Yes, and after it rips off that sigmarines armor and plunges in, he'll drag the poor woman around the battlefield as he continues to do battle.

>>52333128
So it's over black/grey, it's different when over light colours.

>>52333139
>if this came out yesterday

But it did and DG rumors have been a thing for the past 6 months and we've known that GW was going to unveil new shit around at fan events.

You only have yourself to blame.

>>52333139

Then just return it all.

You'll lose return postage but still have some £280 for new Deathguard.

>>52332515
If you could dropbox them it would be nice

>>52333147
7/7/17

>>52333139
I just finished converting the fuck out of dark vengeance marines an dorks bikes to the same effect, at least I didn't pay even near retail for anything.

You can still mix shit up with the FW kits for more variety.

Quick question,
How did the Phalanx get back to Terra for repairs after cadia if the warp is all fucked up atm?

>>52333139
>new units means your old ones are useless
Are you an applefag that always has to have the newest and shiniest shit? How does new DG units mean you can't use your existing ones? Fucking hell.

>>52332374
It stuck because Groggy's claim was exactly that. That he had it worse than nids and orks which of course is batshit insane and DEFINITELY grognardy.

>>52333139

You're well within your consumer rights to return everything for a full refund, forgeworld even states

>Whatever the reason you can cancel or return any order to us for a full refund or exchange it for something else. Just call our customer service team on ... or email them at ... and they will take care of this for you as quickly and simply as possible.

So just return it and get your money back.

So just do so and stop whinging (again)

>>52333211
How is that related to being a staunch traditionalist?

>>52333142
>being a cad/formation cuck
Templars are a successor chapter that have competed with founding chapters up until the latest marine dex. The imperial fists have two successors both with unique rules, are other chapters even trying?

>>52333243
>playing unbound
filthy

>>52333156
We get it girls, you like fire, and we love you for it

>>52333211
But the one listing the things in response to the Anakin image was a different person to the first one whining about Warriors because I was the one responding the the Anakin image and was replying to that post alone not the other dude's insane claims of how Tyranid Warriors would be OP.

>>52333021
Looks solid, there isn't much wiggle room in 500 points anyway.

>>52332987
I mean if i was fighting non-salamanders and I had the opportunity to roast some marines with a combi-scorcha I'd take it.

>>52333263
Unbound is the key to happiness in 7th edition.

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>>52333243
>willingly dropping the CAD bonuses
>when you're already playing Black Templars
>shooting your second leg after you're already walking with a broken one
Brother-Initiate, what are you smoking?

>>52333201
You have serious brain problems. I never said that I won't use the models (if I decide to keep them, I may return them as other people have suggested). I was disappointed because converting Forge World models costs literally more than twice as much as a simple dedicated kit from GW does.

A box of CSM costs about £20, but the FW kit costs £25. Now I'm not some fucking pleb whose okay with my army looking like shit on the table, so I'm willing to dish out for my Death Guard to actually look like Death Guard. I spent £45 per squad, only to find out that I could have waited about bought a GW kit for £20.

And before you come back with bullshit about "if you were okay with spending £45 before, you should still be now", I'm just going to stop you there. That's a fucking retarded arguement and I know you're gonna try and make it, so just don't.

>>52333226
>>52333226
Traditionally
>Special marines want to LARP that they have it so bad just because Eldar rape everyone
>Groggy lies about past to accomplish false narrative
>And grogs traditionally h8 when calling out their cognitive dissonance shatters their safe space

>>52333319
H4rd m0de killpoint only, 1v 1 no psyker, no armour, fite me XDDDDD

>>52333286
awesome, wasnt sure if I was maybe overspending on the Maulerfiend and 2 small squads rather than having a large model count.

>>52333319
Becausee unbound let's you use other stuff that makes up for it. With unbound the templars only limitations are no librarians. I gave up on fluffy lists when they took our vows brother

>>52333325
>>Special marines want to LARP that they have it so bad just because Eldar rape everyone
Where are their foam power armours?

Or are you just dropping random nerd terms in the hope of a angry response?

>>52333321
I understand changing your mind. I'm not an autist. The question I would then ask is "When did you intend on using this DG army and for what reason" because if it's before the possible release date of the new models, then the new models won't change anything.

And besides, if you spent £300 YESTERDAY and are happy to wait, return them. I would seriously doubt you have your new models yet. If the release was announced yesterday before you made your order and you were intending to wait for them before you put your DG army to use, then there shouldn't be much disappointment since refunds are a thing.

Maybe you're just bitching for bitching's sake.

>>52333377
What other stuff does it allow that you would otherwise not have?

And losing ObSec on the Troop Land Raiders is pretty bad. Getting the Troop bonus is pretty much the main benefit of it, same when using it with Castellans of the Imperium.

>>52333321
Literally, take everyone else's advice. You should easily be able to cancel the order and get your money back. You can get exactly what you want, but instead of that you're sitting around here still bitching to us that you dropped a bunch of money on the same day as they were announced.

>>52333379
They don't need foam to RP that they have the hardest codex to play online.Does tarnishing noble 40k larping make grogs angry?

>>52333467
>>52333393
>>52333217
Don't know where you retards are getting the impression that I'm "bitching" from. I made one comment describing myself as "disappointed". If anything, you're the ones who are bitching at me.

>>52333267
The spess mareen grog missed targeting (you) and targeted the clint eastwood of 40k general, much to his chagrine.

>>52333525
>targeted the clint eastwood of 40k general
Uhh.. thanks?

>>52333507

several agitated posts later suggest you're pretty upset.

You have a non problem with your older Death Guard. Return them or don't. whatever.

>>52333557

Glad I could save you from the grog

>>52333566
Make stupid replies and I'm gonna call you stupid, that's all. There were other people who replied to me that I didn't link to, because their comments weren't retarded.

>>52333593
No need, I never liked rum.

>>52333578
>>52333578
>>52333578
>>52333578

Initiative seized once again.

>>52333622
You are fucking cancer and should kill yourself.

Stop making threads this early with such shitty fucking opinionated OPs, that shit is making the thread worse than normal by even just being there. There's currently 3 fucking generals open, all with shitty Cultist-Chan thread headers and the same terrible OP post.

>>52333659
It's over Imperial. I have won.

>>52333659
Don't be mad. Maybe GW will make grav guns free for marines in the 8th edition so that you can finally compete with top armies.

>>52333139

The FW stuff isn't going to look the same as the plastic stuff. But if the plastic stuff is like the Tartaros, you might be fucked. If it's like the Cataphractii, you're good.

The only problem with the FW kits is they're more annoying to work with and the legs are still the old shitty plastic. But FW parts in general are much better and crisper than GW plastic parts.

Anyone who owns resin power armor or terminators and the plastic equivalent will know the difference.

>>52333358
Bolters are ineffective on their own, they need special weapons to be relevant.

At higher points you can combine/add to the two squads, buy a second plasma gun and have them both shoot out the top hatch while the lord joins another squad.

>>52333264

Sure, but it's also about not lost tailoring. There are times when you should use flamers against Marines because you brought flamers and you're playing against Marines. Plus, flamers are nice against rerollable 2/3+ jink bikes, though I think that's just Ravenwing.

>>52332185
doesn't purge coterie need reavers?

>>52334027
Flamers in general aren't bad against marines. If you're in range of a squad, you'll get more hits than a basic bolter by far, and S 4 will deal a respectable amount of wounds for them to save.

It's only 5 points as well. People take them all the time, and against Salamanders it's a nice bonus to make those cheap upgrades less effective.

>>52331600
>>52330428
making a draw now

>>52333659
>Triggered groggy
Wash yourself out after this, I don't want to pay child support to no rape baby.