/bbg/ Blood Bowl General - Apparently It Is My Turn to Make the Thread Edition
/tg/ FUMBBL League Season VII has made it to Round 2, while Monkey League I is in the finals. The other leagues are either dead or irrelevant at the moment.
Blood Bowl 2 Legendary Edition has been announced with an expected release for next Australian summer.
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http://www.bloodbowl.com/
http://www.thenaf.net/
https://fumbbl.com/
http://bbtactics.com/
http://www.plasmoids.dk/bbowl/Bloodbowl.htm
http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Blood_Bowl
The rules that are being replaced on FUMBBL, the CRP (aka LRB6):
http://marmeladov.com/BB/LRB6.pdf
The new GW released 2016 edition (which FUMBBL is adjusting to):
https://mega.nz/#!5oZ1wRQZ!C4ksVQ_bEKIeA07EBKN0Q2LWOAsrgpHEiG_BND0nO2s
And the Deathzone Season 1 Supplement:
https://mega.nz/#!ktBllQAa!mHZskvUvvDISY2YE11O9Sedths12M4d2wuGXV2R8YD4
Stunty Leeg handbook:
https://fumbbl.com/files/Stunty_Leeg_Handbook_v1_0_1.pdf
/tg/ FUMBBL League group:
https://fumbbl.com/p/group&group=9828&op=view
/tg/ Stunty Leeg group:
https://fumbbl.com/p/group&group=10178&op=view
/tg/ Secret League group:
https://fumbbl.com/p/group&group=10393&op=view
/tg/ Monkey League group:
https://fumbbl.com/p/group?op=view&group=10667
Discord Server: https://discord.gg/3mpKZx2
FUMBBL IRC servers are dead. Go to the Discord instead.
previous Thread >>52269437
What's an Australian summer?
>>52328021
American winter
https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=951991
>discord has killed bbg
>>52329523
>Just like GW killed the game
>>52329523
It was only a few people bumping the threads during the slow hours.
Now its up to you. Id post more stuff, but you know christian board.
Was planning more OC, then death got in the way.
Double feature
https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=952076
what's OP pic anyway?
>>52331806
le fumbbl ofc
So I bought the plastic Ogre to expand my starter humans.
But there's no player card included. Am I just supposed to refer to the Death Zones roster? I thought it was nice that the team boxes came with player cards.
I got a doubles on my second werewolf(already has block)
Is it worth to take MB or another dub skill on him knowing I already have MB on my other werewolf or should I just rush blodge straight up?
>>52334561
I mean is more MB on a Claw player a bad thing?
Bumping with good old times
>>52334998
>>52334561
What if the other wolf dies? Like is it ever bad having 2 mb wolves? Plus what skill will you get after dodge? Wolves have like 4 good singles only and really tackle and side step aren't as good as block, dodge, and mb
>>52335917
Yeah its probably the best decision, especially with all those av9 teams in the league
>playing BB2
>doing alright in a league with my Chaos team, only got 2k Gold tho
>suddenly, my Big Guy DIES on a failed roll
>use Apothecary
>"lol you're only alternatives are DEATH and DEATH"
>concede
>lose fans
>all progress on my Minotaur died with him, and cost to replace is 15k
>shut down game and cry
>>52336591
>getting Mino
>Conceding because a player died
>>52336591
And now the healing can beginDon't rehire the Minotaur
>>52336591
is this a ruse
>>52336591
Unless he gets block early on, the minotaur is just a big dumb liability and blitz hogger on a Chaos team and you're better off without him.
So, apparently Expensive Mistakes is implemented in FUMBBL now. Does anyone know if it's active in /tg/ league yet?
>>52340057
it's only been rolled out to R and B divisions
it will be optional for leagues when it is rolled out to L
>>52340057
Just [R] and [B], Christer made every team unready to play before rolling. Rolled a 3 with my undefeated Undead team and now have no money.
>>52340057
>>52340604
>>52341134
It's in league. I just had to roll with my orcs after last match. Rolled a 6
>>52341188
Yeah, I too had to roll after my last tg leeg match yesterday
>>52341935
>>52341188
How odd, no mention of [L] in either of the bulletins as far as I can see.
The fuck is Christer doing, honestly.
>>52341134
Why didn't you burn the cash beforehand?
>>52332571
Well, yeah. You could make your own, I guess.
>>52342586
I don't read that much into blogposts so i just figured it was natural. Well at least it was only 30k down the drain.
>>52334998
Do you have his other works?
>>52343159
Well >>52335086
was one, but Penis13 got so mad about losing 4-0 and the picture showing his waifu getting dry humped he kept reporting it.
https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=952272
Amorican Psycho vs. Dead Doornails
>>52343227
I think there were others too, from, like, 4th season?
>>52343503
>>52343159
http://imgur.com/a/lrdMb
>>52343268
Game ends in a 1 - 1 tie.
Not enough dead gunners, if you ask me.
>>52334998
excellent work
https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=952373
Bright Wolves Versus A Bad Idea
>>52347555
Bad Ideas living up to their name.
Troll's up for preorder on the New Zealand page
>>52348502
Needs a bit more detail work tßh
>>52332571
The only teams that have cards are in the starter box. None for rats, dorfs, etc.
>>52348675
It's still a pretty decent mini tho
>>52326274
man fumbl looks a LOT different from the last time I played, i wish those leagues were noob-friendly
>>52349474
Well /tg/ league is, just about everyone here sucks.
>>52348502
how often does the troll ever get the ball, though
>>52349474
Yeah, I'm sure a few of us remember the previous client with the weird Apo and Ref.
Join the 145 Club group for new players and noob coaches and go from there.
>>52349506
>>52349536
im probably misleading when i say 'noob', because i actually mean 'incompetent retard'
>>52349474
Do not do what tripfag said >>52349536
145 is noobs, but you also get to have the "fun" of playing pro coaches and getting your ass handed by joke teams. You're best bet is looking for matches with people you know or just blackbox, but fumbbl sucks right now.
>>52349576
Oh, yeah that is still like 1/4 of the coaches here, you won't be that bad off.
>>52348502
>baseball pitch TTM pose
It's a really funny concept but something more neutral would have been appreciated. Makes it seem like all the Troll is ever doing is lobbing Goblins around, which isn't true at all, even for Goblin teams.A treeman model, on the other hand.
>>52349459
>that goblin nose
No wonder goblin teams can get bribes for only 50,000 shekels.
Discord killed it
>>52335917
You *could* get a Guard Wolf, as werewolves are favourites to tie up and tend to get into the thick of the action anyway with Frenzy, and more Guard never hurts.
Juggernaut is also nice on a Frenzy piece but is a bit more situational and requires some planning and forethought to make maximum use of.
>>52348502
The worst of the new BB figures so far.
>>52348502
I'm buying four
rip wizard
>>52355808
what was wrong with the wizard?
>>52355808
no fun league
>>52356034
He isn't in nuBB
>>52350989
I was just away to say something looked off about the goblins nose. Guess I'm just a nazi.
>>52353662
Yea but odds are the wolfs are going to be the primary target. If a wolf is off the field or injured or otherwise disposed of it is nice to know you still have a clawmb blitz where ever you need it
And since claw is a free skill on the wolves it is never a waste the way a chaos team would be wasting claw vs wood elves
https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=952571
how could someone get into the tabletop scene, iv played the video game version alot but when it comes to the actual D6 dice, no clue
>>52358445
buy the new bloodbowl boxed game
in honesty check the naf to see if there's a league near you, also try googling "<city name> blood bowl league"
ask any stores if people play, check facebook for play groups, etc etc etc etc
worst case scenario naf has flyers you can put up to advertise a new league (the one you're starting bucko)
>https://fumbbl.com/~HarpoHarvesterOfSorrow
Are dorfs an ok army to start with?
Im fucking in love with the models
>>52359828
Dorfs are the training wheels on rails
>>52359828
They're difficult to learn, hard to do poorly with, hard to do well with.
While your players are all very safe with their almost universal AV9 Block start, they're incredibly slow and have a difficult time playing the ball. You can't reasonably steal the ball unless playing against incompetents, so your goal is just to win 1 - 0, every match. That is your ideal game, shutting their offense out with your wall of unkillable beardies, and grinding down the field for the entire half on your own offense.
For a lot of people, that's dull to play as and to play against, so they're not a terribly popular team.
>>52360011
Or win 2-1
And dorfs are pretty popular with people who arent shitters. They are totally a top 5 NAF team
>>52360199
>dorfs are pretty popular with people who are shitters
fixed it for you
>>52360199
That scenario occurs only if you threaten the team with enough bodily harm, since you are too slow to put pressure on a team looking to stall out the half.
As I said, the ideal dwarf game is that you successfully defend against the score, and score once yourself. You are trying to avoid scoring twice because it forces your team to try and move faster than it safely can.
monkey league finals
https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=952709
THREEPAC BTFO THREEPAC BTFO THREEPAC BTFO
>>52363199
i kill you
>>52363276
GOTZYAAAAAAA
https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=952778
Unscheduled lizards against nurgle
TENDRIL ABOUT TO BE BTFO
>>52366674
Oh no, I might tie, how horrible.
>>52366692
relax buddie take the L
I'm declaring gantherogue unfortunately dead. I'd prefer if people didn't sign up if they can't commit to six games in six weeks, but hey ho.
Anyone in the Rookies with an eligible Vets team want to fill in? I'll relax the Exhausted rule if your team is of a reasonable TV. Preferably you could play sasasing tomorrow, or he gets the walkover and you start in Round 3.
>>52367467
antg here i can join with 13,5 elfen in zamonien and i should be able to play sas tomorrow i think unless some evil deity makes me work on sunday.
>>52367467
You can drop my apes to make numbers even
>>52368098
Excellent, thank you antg
>>52368310
Unfortunately midseason you can only replace teams rather than removing one or two. In some ways I wish Christer would play about with the website-side League stuff that doesn't work too well instead of pratting about removing Wizards or whatever.
Hacking the dice in FUMBBL is so easy, I love making +Strength players there.
>start playing Khemri
>enjoy them
>but also get to know just how shit they are because of the weaknesses
Why are teans like Wood Elves and Lizardmen allowed to have OP lineups with almost no downsides?
And yet a cool concept like Khemri gets stuck with decay on their best players on top of armor 7 skeletons and agi 2 lineman and no claw access to deal with the heavy bash teams.
Just one more starting skill on the TGs would make the team much more forgiving. Even if it was thick skull or juggernaut.
One high level TG dies and the whole team stagnates.
Will probably go back to playing the boring teams but its a real shame.
>>52370979
What OP lineups are you speaking of for Asrai and Lizardfolk?
>>52370979
if every team was bad then there would be no good teams
>>52370979
Khemri used to be good, actually. All their Tomb Guards had an identical statline to Undead Mummies (i.e. they started with Mighty Blow), and their skeletons were cheap.
This made them the true "kill 'em all" team back in the day, much more so than Chaos - you had 4 S5 guys with no negatraits *and* Mighty Blow, plus a ton of cheap Skeleton linemen to foul them while they were stunned. And since you're so slow you're probably rolling up in a fouling deathball anyway (and once the TGs level up and get Guard you're always fouling with assists).
They got hit with the nerfstick really hard in LRB5+ and haven't really been the same since. My favourite suggestion to bring them back up into "useful roster" status would be to give all the TGs Grab as a starting skill - it reinforces their positioning heavy bash game in a way that's different from other bash teams.
As for Lizardmen and WE having OP lineups... you need to look at rosters in a League context rather than just a one-off game context. Lizards most brutal at low TV but drop off as other teams get Dauntless/Dodge/Block/Tackle. Skinks stay vulnerable throughout their miserable amphibian lives and a Lizard team that loses their Skinks will just not have the numbers to control the pitch. Wood Elves are very vulnerable to fouling and attrition, and like all elf teams constantly have to play with less than a full roster.
>>52371197
Wood Elves
- armor 7 die easily
- low on str besides treeman
+ agi 4
+ 2x fast blodgeleap super players from game 1 that can do pretty much anything
+ great elf positionals
+ a str 6 standfirm big guy because reasons
Makes a team that can score and sack the ball every two turns if you arent very careful. Have to pray for enough pows and injuries or you are fucked.
Lizards
- Agi 1 Saurus
- Skinks a bit vulnerable
+ 6 Str 4 players, and kroxi
+ Fast moving big guy with prehensile tail
+ Fast stunty skinks for bullshit plays even if you manage to survive the str onslaught
Makes a team that will always outmuscle you until you get some guard or claw. And you wont get to hit those skink td scorers unless the coach is a retard.
>>52372709
Better if there were more good teams than shit ones. I dont even want to nerf the above, just buff ones like khemri and vampires so there were more interesting choices at the competitive level.
>>52373979
Yea i heard they were much better at their role before, and that nerfstick makes me wonder why it was targeted at them and not Woodies or Lizards.
Its true, they can both be beaten, as any other race. But i picked them because low-mid tv is where most games are played outside perpetual leagues. And they are still relatively good at high tv... unless Lizards run into clawpomb.
>>52374067
Yea but in a League context Lizards usually have a tough time getting SPP on the Saurii and WE have trouble keeping players alive. They're definitely top tier teams nonetheless. Common ideas to tone down Lizards would be to make Saurii AV8; not really sure on changes for WE that wouldn't dramatically change the feel of the team (one common idea I've heard is giving Wardancers Wrodge instead of Blodge to start).
>>52370979
>>52373979
>Khemri Tomb Guardiansâ„¢ are even shittier now
>>52374351
A N O I T E D
>>52373979
>once the TGs level up and get Guard you're always fouling with assists
Guard doesn't let you assist fouls while in tackle zones, just blocks.
>>52374603
i want to be hopeful and say he maybe meant with guard it's easier to block and so you get better fouls.
>>52374067
Vamps are one of the best high TV teams though.
>>52374186
>Lizards usually have a tough time getting SPP
Not anymore. With the New MVP rules and removing piling on Lizardmen are stronger than ever
>>52375806
b-but muh Expensive Mistake
>>52375823
Oh no lizards will only be allowed to carry 290k gold and will need to replace their broken lizards and skinks every season for free, while being able to keep their skilled up big lizards who now get 5 spp every game.
>>52375878
Oh and no wizard to use against them
Quickslithers Vs Red Fang Rockets in 25 minutes
>>52370979
What starting lineup would you recommend for both teams? ie: 2 wardancer tree 2 catcher rest lineup rerolls apoc etc
>>52379284
Krox
6 Saurus
4 Skinks
2 RRs
2 Wd
1 Catcher
8 Linos
2 RRs
Quickslithers Vs Red Fang Rockets
https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=953083
>>52379468
Orcs got bullied, 2-0 Slithers
>>52378669
That's DYK worthy, Pizzapocalypse.
>>52378669
:^)
With the pile on nerf is there any reason to ever play humans over dark elves?
>>52386533
mighty blow and guard access
>>52386533
Is there any reason to play humans over Orcs?
>>52386971
Ma6 is actually a huge deal over ma5
is there a good reason to play anything over stunty teams?
>>52388183
Self respect
>>52375806
I feel making Saurii AV8 wouldn't be an unreasonable change for the roster, but I hear GW is taking their usual approach to game balance for this one - apparently the new "Weeping Dagger" skill for Gutter Runners came entirely from the fact that the writers felt the knife on the model should have an in-game effect.
Quickslithers just surpassed 2000k TV
Cheers Tendril!
>>52390883
Prehensile Tail on all Sauri when?
Has anyone else checked out the Blood Bowl section on the Warhammer Wargear website? Based on the shirt names and designs I think we at least know what the names of the team boxes are, and what the coins will look like.
I've gotten in to Blood Bowl relatively recently, just managed to win my Uni's BB2 league with Skaven, so I was going to try dorfs next for the biggest possible changeup. I know they're supposed to be a super hard team, so are there any particular tips I should be keeping in mind while playing them?
newfag here
friend at the LGS got the blood bowl box and I've got some spare goblin parts, plus that Troll looks pretty baller. Thought I'd make a list
Hows it look? Never really done this before
>>52392309
You really shouldn't skip all your best positionals for a troll and goblins.
>>52392309
Start with as many Black Orcs and Blitzers as possible, they are your best players by a mile.
The Troll is a luxury, I stupidly rebought one for my team after the first one was shit and wish I hadn't.
>>52392309
4 Rerolls is also unneccessary. 3 Should be enough.
>>52392309
Ignore >>52392341 and >>52392361 If you want to go with Goblins and the Troll do it, just know you aren't going to be playing with "the optimal team".
>>52393588
Look, he's only got one Black Orc.
There's sub-optimal and there's unplayable.
We were just being considerate.
>>52393588
The troll is really bad. Don't just ignore the advice when he is asking for how it looks.
>>52393588
>hey guys I'm new please help me
>no don't help him let him be bad at the game!!!!
Hmm the more I look at the new Blood Bowl stuff the more I don't like it.
I appreciate the attempt to get away from them just looking like Warhammer models with the weapons taken off and looking more like actual sports teams but it just doesn't seem to have gone far enough for me I guess.
Pretty sure I'm just stuck with an extreme case of nostalgia for the old art.
>>52393664
>>52393665
>>52393715
It does also kinda depend what he is going to be up against though.
Will he be playing just for fun with other people who are playing just for fun or is he playing tournament types who just want to win.
>>52393882
Nice buzzword.
>>52393882
No, anon. That is fucking stupid. 2 Blitzers, 1 Black Orc, Troll with 2 Goblins is really bad. It is understandable for a new player to not know how important certain players are, but you should know.
>>52393916
You've never gone for theme or personal preference despite it being a handicap?
Guess you've never played Goblins, Halflings or Snotlings.
>>52393977
Dude, that's not his personal preference. He has no idea what to do.
>>52393977
>>52393882
>>52393588
>>52393977
Well he is playing Orcs and is new. He was asking if the lineup was good.
>>52394031
Yeah and I said it wasn't good but that if it's what he likes the look of, and more importantly what he has access to then go for it.
If he is just starting out it doesn't really matter at all what he has while learning the very basics. Better to have a team with stuff in he likes the look of or is cheaper for him to make while learning those.
>>52393849
>>52394157
Can u fuck off already you retard?
>>52392341
>>52392361
>>52393361
Thanks guys
Did a bot of looking around and found some good looking beginner lineups on BBtactics, so ill probably go with one of those
Do I go Guard or MB for first skill on a Dwarf Blitzer? I only have one Guard in my team for now.
>>52395304
You'll end up with plenty of Guard, but your Blitzers aren't bad for scoring so they don't necessarily rely on casualties for earning SPP.
They'll probably end up with both anyways, and MB will help them get to the second skill faster, so that might be the right choice.
Suprise game
https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=953376
Murder tg Rote vs Daily Dose of Blood Bowl
>>52395781
Rookies is pretty funny this season.
>>52395304
leave MB an the blitz to slayers,blitzers are better for guardfirst. That said in general MB is better for squishy and Guard is better for bashy teams.
>>52390883
GW is cancer, just like EA
Gobbos when, /bbg ?
>>52399008
I suspect that that they will release goblin team after they had released the nurgle and all elven teams.
Worst case the Forgeworld will release them in resin.
>>52390883
>apparently the new "Weeping Dagger" skill for Gutter Runners came entirely from the fact that the writers felt the knife on the model should have an in-game effect.
This shit is so retarded. "Ooh, he's got a knife in his hand!"
As if other players with giant fucking blades attached to their forearms/fists are less dangerous. It's a mostly useless ability that just adds unnecessary rules and dice rolls.
>>52399141
Don't forget MNG is the most dickish injury to give. A badly hurt they are gone for the game and everything else has a permanent effect on the player. Miss Next is just a fuck you, you get one less game with that player.
>>52370979
>>52374067
>Wood Elves
>- armor 7 die easily
This is a MASSIVE drawback.
>- low on str besides freeman
Not a huge drawback, DESU.
>+ agi 4
As with all Elves.
>+ 2x fast blodgeleap super players from game 1 that can do pretty much anything
Having 2 Wardancers in your starting lineup also means having 8-9 Line Elves. Compare that to most other teams who can begin the game with an almost ideal lineup. Enjoy having your arm 7 WD fouled after leaping into a dangerous spot.
>+ great elf positionals
Who, again, are unaffordable to begin with, suffer casualties easily, and are difficult to replace.
Dark Elves and High Elves have arm8, move6 Linemen, which is arguably better. High Elf and Pro Elf catchers come with str3.
Dark Elves don't bother with passing, which IS a suboptimal tactic... guess who specializes in passing? (well, all the other Elves)
>+ a str 6 standfirm big guy because reasons
With a movement of 2 and take root.
>Lizards
>- Agi 1 Saurus
...who also begin with no skills
>- Skinks a bit vulnerable
Str2, stunty... "a bit vulnerable"
>+ 6 Str 4 players, and kroxi
This is good stuff, for sure. Khmeri players have no business bitching about other teams having too much strength, tho.
>+ Fast moving big guy with prehensile tail
Krox is nice. Krox also costs 140k.
>+ Fast stunty skinks for bullshit plays even if you manage to survive the str onslaught
...Skinks also have ag3 and start with no ball-playing skills.
It's almost as if you've had bad experiences playing against veteran Wood Elf and Lizardman players rather than there being an actual problem with their rules. Almost as if you haven't bothered playing these teams yourself.
Your team, which exists for the purpose of murdering other teams' players, is going to have some trouble with the actual gameplay aspects of the game ("bullshit plays").
>>52399196
Wow, teams aren't perfect. More news at 11. They're still some of the best tournament teams.
>>52399196
Thing is, 8-9 Line Elves IS the ideal for Woodies, you don't waste TV on passing skills and just make everyone into Blodge monsters or maybe some Wrestle.
Also who the fuck isn't getting a Krox? Best big guy in the game, only the Beast of Nurgle can compete with it. Also Khemri can bitch all they want about people having more strength because Decay is the biggest fuck you a player can be given.
>>52399178
Right, it's just pure griefing. It does nothing to benefit the Skaven player, and just makes playing the game less enjoyable for their opponent.
I'm saying this as someone who purchased the tabletop Skaven team. I doubt I'll ever use it.
>>52399196
Go back to /r/eddit, faggot.
>>52399196
Do you suffer the consequences of being retarded in your daily life? Or does it only show when you are playing blood bowl? Asking for my research on accessibility in tabletop gaming.
>>52399276
And it is on the Gutter Runners who hardly will be blocking with ST2. The skill just is a super niche "fuck you".
Speaking of rats, what to take on Stormvermin now that PO is shit?
>>52399218
>>52399265
I'm not complaining that Wood Elves are underpowered, or that "teams aren't perfect" (idiot). I'm addressing the points raised. And SHOCKINGLY, many people who play Elves actually LIKE passing, even if it's not the ideal approach. A team full of blodgers, ignoring most of their roster, only making running td's is not why they signed up.
>Also who the fuck isn't getting a Krox?
Again, didn't say "don't take a krox."
>>52399411
I don't know dude, I haven't read everything because I got eye cancer around like the 5th space between the lines.
>>52399276
edit: by "I doubt I'll ever use it," I mean Weeping Dagger, not the Skaven.
>>52399411
So you are retard who thinks they are smart? Thanks, that clears things up. Go back to playing with 1 Black Orc.
>>52399332
...Juggernaut?
As you're often using them to clear spaces for Gunners to bullshit through, being able to actually move a Block player out of the way when you blitz should be very useful.
>2017
>people still think av7 is bad
one day you may
Rolled 1 (1d6)
Gfi
Do you get visibly angry when you roll a double 1 on a gfi?
>>52403017
If I am not mad while playing blood bowl then what is the point of playing it?
>>52402828
I'm sorry anon.
If you don't have Sure Feet or a team reroll, roll armour.
dead
Rolled 2 (1d6)
>>52403267
That was a celebratory GFI, I was already in the end zone and scored
Now I am rolling for my winnings
>>52399008
resin forgeworld team, aka $200
>>52359828
dwarfs are really hard to play if you don't know what you're doing
they are extremely strong at the only play then can run to win, so much so that they're oppressive
but they struggle scoring faster than 3 turns and they are super punishing if you don't know proper positioning because they are so slow
Any guide to "proper positioning" around?
Is the steam game still something to go for?
>>52399052
>>52406900
I'm pretty sure it's already been confirmed Gobbos is next plastic team. And Nurgle will be resin/FW.
>>52407590
BB2 is the best way to play the game.
Or you can play Fumbbl if you hate fun.
Or you can play tabletop if you like playing one 2-3 hour match every blue moon.
>>52407677
Aight ma boii downloadin this shit, was just wondering cause i saw no screens of BB2
>>52407677
>>52407701
>$45
>slow walk cycles
>normie playerbase
>shit presentation
Kek!
With Fumbbl you get
>free
>fast
>best community
With tabletop you get
>hobby aspects
>meatspace friendships
Choose from bottom two
>>52407701
Make sure to join the champ ladder and not the open ladder in game.
Open ladder is just a mess of non-stop kill teams and concedes.
>>52407726
So basically a fun game or a tacky browser game or hanging out with neckbeards.
>>52407750
>neckbeards
I play Blood Bowl irl with my girlfriend, roommate, and younger brother. None of us are neckbeards (I'm the closest, since I post on /tg/).
It's easy to have non-neckbeard friends when you're not a neckbeard, anon.
>>52407750
no more like a $100 dollar game that is more clunky, has less teams, no custom shit, and less options vs a free game with potentially infinite teams and a playerbase without around a 50% concede rate
>>52407779
Not worth anything to try to explain, let the other anon mislead him into wasting $$$
>>52407779
fumbbl a shit, im sure it satisfies the dwarf fortress types but some of us like half-decent graphics.
Most of the relevant teams are already in BB2 and you can easily buy it on sale or wait for legendary and get every team for the standard price.
>>52407807
>relevant teams
cancer please return to reddit
>>52407807
>graphics
Graphics don't matter. BB is literally math.
>>52407807
Well then good for you, i dont see why i should care for graphics in what's essentially a digitalization of a board game
>>52407884
>>52407905
Well you dont have to care about models in the tabletop either but people still like little mens and beasties that look appropriate to the setting.
If i wanted pure math id open a math book.
>>52407701
>falling for the shill
BB2 is pretty shit, fumbbl is way better.
>>52407807
>>52407963
>being a graphics whore
Fumbbl's sprites and sound design are way better and don't take 5 years to watch a zombie walk 4 squares.
>he doesn't have a soundboard app loaded up with /aah, /stomp and /crickets for that authentic FUMBBL feel in his real games
>>52408471
>tfw no /eew and /nomnom
>>52407405
Probably the best thing to learn first is how to screen efficiently/effectively.
>>52408369
Of course its made faster to play when everything looks like a failed computer science project from the nineties.
The only genuine reason to play fummbl is to try one of the teams not in BB2 yet. And even thats not a good enough incentive for me looking at that vomit of an app.
>>52408958
Blood Bowl 2's models still have some shitty textures. Also if you genuinely can't enjoy a game because it doesn't have modern graphics I should inform you that you need to be 18+ to post here.
>>52408958
Get to fuck; and stay there.
Can't imagine sacrificing a huge chunk of gameplay for graphics.
>>52408989
Some shitty textures is far better than 2d scribblings on some piss poor greenboard.
>>52409015
>posts a game that has 2d graphics that are actually good
Dont try to defend garbage with a classic. And no there isnt "a huge chunk of gameplay" missing. Only a few teams, most of which arent event competitive.
>>52409624
Have fun paying 30 bucks to have more than a few teams then. Also have fun with over half the inducements missing. And finally have fun with shit taste and being a graphics whore who can't good pixel art.
BB2
Pro - Graphics
Cons- Everything Else
Fummbl
Con- Graphics
Pros- spectating
Sounds
Teams
Custom teams
Stunty teams
Tournament management
League management
Speed
Flexibility
Community
BEING ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOUR OPPONENT FOR SCHEDULING AND FOR POST GAME BANTZ
customizing teams, pitches and players
Custom rule sets
Rules, thanks to the fact you can turn most of the dumb ones off.
/tg/ plays it
OC
SPECTATING
>>52409624
Take your pills Cyanide.
>all that shill for an incomplete game with at least it's own value in DLC Team content which should be mandatory for the base game
>while you can still play BB:CE for cheap with eveything or FUMBBL for FREE
>all that "b-b-but muh graphics!" stuff
>mfw
Didnt know this general was full of salty fumbbl shitters.
>muh fast moves
>muh free game that looks like total garbage but i play it cause i wanna feel like a superior oldfag
Hell if we didnt get a proper video game, BB would die out and GW wouldnt even bother reviving the tabletop.
>>52410630
>BB would die out
>GW revived the tabletop game
I can't imagine being this fucking clueless.
If anything, GW are a narcissistic parent trying to force their way back into the life of a successful child they abandoned.Whilst making daft rules changes.
>>52410630
>Muh graphix and fallacies.
Do you have any other tunes? Those got old fast.
If it makes you feel better, this isn't one of your shitty /v/ fanbois vs fanbois. Almost everyone here who plays fumbbl owns and plays BB2 on occasion. We are not putting down something we dont understand. Every time I load up BB2 I am reminded of all the ways fumbbl is better. Like objectively better.
Continue to fellate cyanide all you want, or do something constructive. Start a BB2 league(people would join), or go to /v/ and start a BB2 thread. Right now you are bitching to the wrong choir.
>>52407807
>Most of the relevant teams are already in BB2
Good joke.
>>52410738
i am not saying i agree with the troll, bt if i rememebr correctly this general was born right after BB2, it is true in a way that BB2 gave new mainstream life to bb
>>52411573
No, it was the TGS blood bowl league that gave the game a new lease on life.
>>52411573
Mauled said this is his second attempt at a /tg/ leaguel
>>52410630
>muh graphics
Kill yourself you fucking casual.
>>52410630
>BB dying out
Gee wiz batman, I wonder how we survived the long time between BB1 and BB2 while GW dropped us like a hot potato for quite a few years ...
Probably only because there was so much hype for BB2 all the years, right...?
https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=953779
Lizards Gone Bad vs. Dead Doornails
>>52412973
Another 1 - 1.
>>52411613
>>52411709
The whole blood bowl general came to be because I, Ph0enyx13, had watched the TGS league prior a bit and was somewhat interested. When BB2 came out yogscast Sips_ made some videos playing it. I decided to buy the game after seeing Sips_ play it cause it looked fun. I tried playing chaos because murder chaos. I lost a lot but was playing like 3-4 games per night every night after work. I tried to make a thread on /vg/ but it didn't work and then I found out this used to be a table top game so I made a thread on here.
And that was the history of the very first iteration of this blood bowl general
>>52415206
>Improbible
>Book of Genesis 1:1-5
>>52415206
"And from the bowels of internet, where streamer shitters dwell, came forth a huge faggot, whose every orifice was yearning for cocks. He called himself Penisl0ver13, for the number of dicks he had taken in his boypussy.
Such was his hunger for cocks, that no amount of raping would sate him "
Improbible 56:17
>>52415538
Improbible needs no editing. Holy words are infallible.
>Give not that which is rerolls unto the dodge, neither cast ye your SPP before stormvermin, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
>playing tabletop in a league against people who are primarily coming into it from playing BB2
>adding +1 to every catch roll, including kick off and bouncing balls
>applying negative modifiers to dodge rolls for the square the piece is moving out of rather than into
>not declaring pass/hand-off actions when activating pieces
>not knowing how assists are worked out
>not knowing how crowd surfing works
>not factoring in negative modifiers in working out whether a pass is fumbled or not
>using team re-rolls on stuff like armour rolls
>making one die blocks constantly
Is BB2 just really bad at explaining this stuff or is my group retarded?
>>52415932
Both.
>>52415932
100% both
>>52415932
BB" doesn't directly explain this stuff,but except for the declare thing everything can be seen by playing and noticing rules, the game is pretty clear on how it works if you are trying to understand.
>>52415932
>not declaring pass/hand-off actions when activating pieces
This, coupled with the "you can't pass when standing next to a piece, this is automatically an handoff" is triggering me.
>>52415932
>using guard to assist fouls
>using nerves of steels on pickup rolls
>wardancers adding +1 to leap rolls rather than it just being a straight agility roll "because it's a dodge"
>thinking you could take any model as a journeyman to bring your numbers up to 11 and taking a free ogre
>only remembering you have stunty when dodging and conveniently forgetting the passing penalty when throwing the ball
>rerolling a reroll
>taking Grak and Crumbleberry
No idea why I thought joining in with Blitzmania was a good idea.
is fumbl still plagued by cheaters? exploiters, whatever you want to call them.
>>52417181
Yes, never play there.
>>52417277
there? as opposed to...?
>>52417181
Yeah, a dangerous group of hackers known as fourchan is abusing fumbbl matches by farming spp on passes. CIA is currently investigating the matter.
>>52417318
Is anonymouse or the NSA involved?
>>52415206
>>52412771
Its settled then, cyanide's BB1 and subsequent BB2 are the saviors of Bloodbowl.
Fumbbl probably brought in like 10 people and lost a thousand who got sick of the shitty graphics.
>>52420890
>taking penis13 seriously
Truly the biggest retard.
>>52420940
Go back to the first generals from 2015 then. See how they are just me shit posting and then mauled joining.
Face it, the whole reason we have a league is because I was watching a youtube video, decided to get the game, and then did a really shitty job at playing chaos
>>52421699
Go back to the first threads from 2014 then. See how they are just me shitposting and then others joining.
Face it, the whole reason /tg/ even knows about Blood Bowl is because I'm the biggest BB fan, decided to make a thread, and did a shitty job at getting people to play.
>>52421738
>>52421699
>be a BB2 babby that contributes nothing to league
>join the league after it was formed and had a season
>be retard
>"I introduced everybody to the game, PLS LOVE ME"
How pathetic can one get?
>>52421883
I made the first of these generals you fucking faggot.
I also had a team in the league before the start of the first season, I just didn't play till season 2 because I didn't have the time during the first season you fucking cuck.
I didn't say I invented the fucking game. I said that this current general, dating back from late September or early October 2015 all occurred because I was bad at playing chaos
>>52422200
I WAS THE FIRST PERSON TO EVER MAKE A BLOOD BOWL THREAD
>>52422318
Not the first one to ever make a thread. The first from this series of threads.
All of these threads are linked to old Ops. If we lived in some perfect world and those links were never broken and you followed them back you would arrive at my thread.
>>52422459
Nah, I made the very first one.
>>52422481
>http://4chandata.org/tg/Blood-Bowl-General-a830503
Here is the thread.
>>52422505
Yep, that was me. I made it
>>52422563
Let me find the match about the fouling goku
>>52422590
Hey man, trying to steal people's credit for making a type of thread on an anonymous image board is pretty low tier.
>>52422200
What the fuck are you trying to prove you pathetic faggot?
Is your life so sad that you want to claim credit for bunch of shitposts you made earlier?
>>52422620
How do I link a replay from bb2? 2015/10/15 at 22:54
League: lil skittles invitational
Competition: Skittles Season 2
Skavenball Z 2-0 Dead Knights
ID toornament:10000918E5
Rats MVP went to Vageta.
>>52422702
>being upset cause you know I'm right
go hang yourself cuck.
>>52422748
"Pls love me and give me attention anons who play the same game as me. I have nothing else in my life"
>>52422748
You didn't make the thread man.
>>52422748
Replays get deleted from cyanide's servers after a week or two.
You can upload the replay file you have locally if you're this desperate.
>>52422774
>>52422791
>http://replay.bowllywood.ovh/replay/stat?id=58db18b6615d5306777d29af
>>52422851
That was me.
>>52422872
Hi ph0enyx13 ;^)
>>52422889
Hey cuck, you never talk to me in MY threads again. I'm the best coach here by the way
>tfw I finally got someone else to do my shit posting for me
My work here is done
>BB1 and 2 never get made
>fumbbl cucks stuck playing agaisnt the same 100 people who slowly retire as everyone else forgets that bloodbowl even exists
>muh pure autist experience on a shitty browser app, im so happy no casuals come play our game, keep it looking shit guys good job
>>52422939
This shitpost is stale.
>>52422939
Gift BB2 to me on Steam and I'll never play Fumbbl again.
>>52422939
>shitty browser app maintained by a drunk cuck is better than the video games made by a video game company
>>52422921
Don't worry, the bans will find their way to the right person anyways.
Which team / race is the mostlikable?
>>52424891
Shambling Undead, Elf Union, and Chaos Renegades
>>52424891
dwarfs
Do you guys shit in your own beds every day too?
>>52424891
Humans.
No gimmicks, no bullshit strength or agility. Still good enough to compete and win.
Its hard to get upset when they beat you, chances are they deserved it. Most other races elicit grumbling about some advantage that felt like it got them the win unfairly.
It was me who did the first threads after watching sage on Twitch you faggots, stop stealing my credit penis13 and fuck off shitposting on plebbit you huge mongoloid piece of shitcoach.
t. Player from season 0.5 before penis13 joined /tg/ and fapped on plebbit karma
Anyone who wasn't in the /tg/ league for BB:CE should just off themselves already.
I bumped the thread, please love me.
dead
Rolled 24 + 10 (1d58 + 10)
>>52432124
apo
Because fags never link there games, here's the third match of today (you didn't even know there had been two others, did you?}
https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=954328
GGF vs. Snorkland Soulless
>>52436388
discord killed this general
>>52436388
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UDVzVmk1NQ
>>52436388
ends in a bloodshed and a 2-1 victory for snorkland because I missed out DP in the last turn.
>>52427677
see
>>52422851
>>52422505
get fucked
>>52438052
Yea that was me you dingus
Fuck off penis you're not taking my title of bbg creator you casual fucktard
Ways to improve bloodbowl #768: Keep agility for dodging and introduce ball-handling attribute for anything to do with the ball.
>>52439564
Nope
>>52441212
Yep.
Agility swings too much in the current game and makes all the elf teams too similar.
Just look at strength, if you go from 4-5, 5-6, you still get on average only 2 dice unassisted. Strength is limited to a single action most turns.
You can even shut down any high str blitzer if he is down on agi.
Going from 3-4 or 4-5 agi is a huge leap for any player. It lets you dodge much more frequently, past tighter zones and lets you pick up, catch, throw the ball at much higher odds with each increment.
With a ball handling attribute, team variety is much better and elves can be differentiated with ball handling experts vs dodge experts.
It also stops 4+ agility stat freaks on bash teams from being too broken.
>>52442710
Fuck off, your fanfic is not good
Well I got a reikland reavers box and an ogre, how do I git gud
>>52442940
My ideas are great and i will make a superior tactical turn based violent sports game in my lifetime.
>>52443473
Throw it away and buy an orc team.
>>52336591
>Be me
>just got done playing a season
>hosted at one of the local gaming stores
>playing dwarfs
>Buddy playing Chaos
>Be playing our first game of the season
>He rocks Mino and 4 Chaos warriors on his team
>I ended up killing his Mino and one other Chaos warrior
>Feel kinda bad, but mostly astounded
> Every body all season long keeps talking about it "hey, at least you don't have Chad's bad luck"
>>52444035
Good on you, chad sounds like a douche.
>>52443473
Play games
Read some of the tactics stuff in the OP
Watch other people who know how to play the game and try and figure out how their turn is gonna go before they play it out, then work out why they did things differently than you thought
https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=954518
necro vs flings
>>52445466
Lol naw,my friend Chad is not the typical meme douche Chad. Actually one of the coolest guys I know. Despite not having a Mino all season long, and he ended up losing like three more Chaos warriors, he nearly made it into the playoffs.
I was thinking with a friend recording bb tabletop games and putting them on youtube with added public shouts and singing and making extremely exagerated commentaries during it with slow mo repetitions etc.
Should I do it?
Proper set up for a fresh human team entering into an in progress league?
>>52450580
4 blitzers an ogre and a thrower
>>52449639
Is it necessarily a bad idea? No. Are you going to be able to make it anything but annoying and cringeworthy garbage? You have under a 1% chance according to my sources.
What will finally make Human Catchers good?
Hard Mode: No giving +ST
>>52455357
>hard mode is not not giving them +ag
>>52455404
Fine, Devil May Cry Mode: No +AG or +ST
https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=954709
SLA game
>>52455429
With no statup viable the only way is skills, they only ag skill you can give them is sidestep(no general skill would really make much sense except block but that would be pretty retarded and other ag skills suck). That would make them better at defending which they need a lot and slightly at attacking too. Probably not too good but they would make sense at least i guess.(of course raise tv 10k)
>>52455357
>>52455357
>>52455404
>>52455429
Give them guard
>>52456580
>ST2, av7 with guard with another 20k to TV
Terrible.
>>52456619
>80k for a player who starts with guard
>>52456935
>playing NuBB
Sorry, that is 100k anon.
>>52455357
+movement
Fumbling Gutter cunts
>>52455357
nerves of steel, diving catch, sidestep but that would probably be op.
>new champ ladder has cash money prizesexcept on xbone
>>52459371
>avg bloodbowl win % for even the best teams is just above 50%
>need to have at least 80% wins in 30 games to even qualify as top race
It feels impossible, theres always a few matches where you get diced to hell. The level of git gud needed makes my eyes water.
>>52460232
eh, most people on bb2 are REALLY bad. just gotta pick a safe team and go for 1-0s or 2-1 grinds.
>>52460675
Its a mix really, majority of bad players get sucked into open ladder.
The difficulty in champs is that you will always run into the other guys who are going for perfect records. So even if theres some freebies, the top dudes can spin into you and ruin your day (unless you find a perfect timeslot when none of em are on).
If more top coaches come out of the woodwork now that prizes are decent, it will be even tougher.
Why shouldn't I just pick top tier teams to play.
>>52460809
If your stats suffer because you keep losing to top players, you don't deserve to be on top.
>>52462991
did anybody tell you not to?
>>52462991
Because you'll make people start whining about your team being OP.
>>52463019
Well obviously, im just pointing out that its not that easy, unless everyone in this general is an ace coach. In which case go get your monies.
>>52462991
no bragging rights for outperforming with a shit race
>>52416382
>"you can't pass when standing next to a piece,
you can pass. Just click on the player holding the ball and then click pass and then the target.