Infinity General: State Empire Edition

>>52307201
>only sexy slant eyed people are allowed to be awesome and cooler than blue nerds losers
Rude

>>52307263
What can you expect from some backwater barbarians.

>>52307201
I love the subtitle.

>>52307280
>What can you expect from some backwater barbarians.
+1 BS and shitty WIP.

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>>52307360
>>52307280
No need to fight, my friends. Can't we all just get along? Here, I'll buy you all a drink.

>>52307201
Praised be the Dragon Emperor comrade-citizens. What kind of HI are the ones in the pictuire? Are they supposed to be Shang Ji?

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>>52307201
So what are our thoughts about this girl actually getting a model along with a crab bot?

I'm a terrible person and going to be getting one. I don't even play Pan-O

>>52307414
They actually look like the old Wu Ming design, since they've got only singular back spikes.

>>52307421
The amount it has triggered cultural marxists, and CB's classically Spanish disdain for their shit, has proved to me they're /ourguys/

>>52307421
Someone went for the discount breast surgery.

>>52307421
I like the crab bot.

>>52307421
If it pisses off the virtue signalers, it has to be a good model. Im getting it for the qt crabbot, some minor work and the bee is an excellent proxy.

I too don't even play PanO

>>52307421
>play YJ
>would like a nice pretty engineer model
>Tokusetsu Butai Kohei is (while a pretty model) a dude
So what horrible fluff rationale can I get her to join YJ? Hard mode: no kuang-shi shenanigans

>>52307507
Just paint her in Yu Jing colors and give her black hair, she's on loan from the propaganda office for an emergency operation.

>>52307483
Who knows, it might have been pre-natal genetic tailoring. Could you imagine what that meeting is like?
>Uh, dear, about our baby... you know how we were talking about fixing her genetic susceptibility to near-sightedness? How about boobies too?

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>>52307421
It's the cutest, sexiest, best looking and overall most awesomest model ever!
And the girl is a nice bonus!

>>52307421

I'm going to be the voice of dissent here and say I don't like her. Plz don't murder me I'm not a Es Jay Dubyew, I promise.

I just really like models looking tactical and having a feeling of military, so the cheese cake models in Infinity don't exactly do it for me. I think the pilot models are generally fine since they have some reason to be that way (though it escapes me why a garter belt is necessary for the O-Yoroi), but the Tech Bee looks like she really belongs in a pin up calendar and not a battlefield. I think it wouldn't bother me much at all if she didn't also come with a brand new and super optimal unit profile, so she'll be everywhere flash pulsing people and grabbing objectives, rather than being an HVT.

Like I'm cool with other people liking it, but my personal opinion is I wouldn't buy her. If I played PanO, I would probably get a Dire Foes HVT to proxy her or something. The little crab guy is cool though.

>>52307538
>tfw two decades later brown flatchest is the ideal of beauty

>>52307421
I'm getting one, not sure what I'd field her as since I don't play PanO. HVT? Warcor? Hafza posing as Odalisque?

>>52307587
Correct me if I am wrong, but I am pretty sure the tech bee isn't actually one of the normal operators that operate operationally unlike just about every other unit in the game, as such she is more of a consultant or something, hence the irregular order. She is the the civvie tech your grizzled war dudes have to babysit. She at least makes more sense to bring along on some clandestine op rather than the news channel 10 reporter.

But I get what you mean. Id just paint her as having full compression pants rather than thigh highs, wouldn't look too dissimilar from a fusilier. When your technology level has nano machines, I am pretty sure you can pack all kinds of bullshit into clothes.

>>52307899
I thought about giving her a coat similar to Nisse's but maybe I'll try that with a second one, when Svalarheima is out.
The temptation to paint rosy butt cheeks is too strong.

>>52307899
Yeah, I think that's what they're going for. It just bugs me her profile is so good, so instead of being a cowering HVT, she's going to be in tons of PanO lists to throw out AROs and dash for objectives. Every Joan list is going to have her guaranteed. It's just a little silly, and I already think the Warcor is a weirdly non-thematic unit.

I will probably get over it. It's not even a terribly major annoyance for me, and I'm happy other people like the model. I just would give the model a like 2 out of 5 personally. I'm not like the crazies that think the model shouldn't exist.

I am happy the new Caledonian Volunteer has pants though. She was no operator.

Do we have a time/date when the Infinity session takes place during Adepticon this weekend?

>>52307587
I feel you, brother. All I want is to play out tacticool operations with the nicest sci-fi minis on the market, but everyone else field nothing but strippers and furries.

>>52308269
> tfw your elite corporate police unit raids an illegal nomad furry brothel and kills all the gang members and patrons while they resisted arrest

It could be worse my operator brother.

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>>52308269

>>52308124
>>52308124
If it wasn't for the new Danavas, she would be my new Zoe proxy after giving her a coat, remove the right fleshy hand and add servo muscle for a complete robo wrist.

Honestly Caledonia needed new sculpts badly, plus only men are allowed to be pantsless, for maximum amounts of SHOW ME YOUR HONOR!

>>52308269
Dont forget the stripper furries!

>>52307201
Question for you all.

Do you think Anime in the Infinity verse is pretty much unwatchable due to the State Empire Propoganda....ahem "Ministry of Public Information" requiring it to be 90% anti-Pan O propaganda?

Being an anime fan living in Pan Oceania must be pretty awkward.

>>52308124
I think it'd half work if she was included in the Warcor AVA. As a +1 WP and low quality specialist for, realistically, at most 2 units, it's not outrageous, but doubling them and adding Switch disguised as Joan is going to be absolute filth. Frankly, Joan is already mad undercosted and I never know why people bitch about posthumans but not a 3 wound BS 15, nanopulser + CC skills heavy for a touch over 50 points, and an SWC discount for using her awesome leadership rules.

>>52308566
A skinny little sycophant once said the best propaganda is that which contains and amplifies the truth.

>>52308598
Well, her "awesome leadership rules" up until now applied basically to Warcor and nothing else. Now suddenly PanO has had an influx of Irregular units, making her more attractive to vanilla.
Still, that Frenzy makes her a bit more fragile than other HI and in MO you need to take go all the way into Hospitallers or Santiagos to mitigate it and if you're not pushing her forward, you're wasting her high BS and second part of Leadership rule. She's great, but she's got some stiff competition and a few drawbacks.

Also Posthumans are Light or Medium Infantry cost for a BS13 Spitfire or HMG HI at the "tax" of needing to buy for example a WIP15 Doc/Engi for 10 pts. Hard not to bitch about that.

>>52308964
What about the coordinated order thing? That's super scary in vanilla, letting her shift things like Auxilia up the board on the cheap. And frenzy is definitely a difficulty, but shock immune NWI and the range of positive extras (stealth, nanopusler, 6-2) she has for her cost is insane. For MO players, I don't think buying top end HI to back her up is really a disadvantage.

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>>52308421
Took me the Acheron Falls development cycle in MS Paint.

>>52309651
Auxilia can't participate in coordinated orders because they're G:Synchronized, making them ineligible for participation.

Joan's free coordinated order is still super good though.

>>52309670
Fucking bravo dude.

>>52309651
>For MO players, I don't think buying top end HI to back her up is really a disadvantage
That's a link that takes 200pts all by itself. Yeah, it's hard to dislodge, but there's a reason why Magisters are more popular.
IMO De Fernsen trumps Joan, but it's expected considering he's more expensive. Though you could link both in the same Hospitaller link.

>>52308598
>I never know why people bitch about posthumans
Naga Assault Hacker: BS 12, PH 12, WIP 14, Camo, Dogged, 32 pts.
Proxy mk2 Assault hacker: BS 13, PH 13, WIP 15, TO Camo, NWI.
Proxy mk1 Doctor or Engineer: BS 13, WIP 15, Mimetism, NWI.
Both proxies together cost 31 pts and retain the order until both bodies and all Netrods get killed. Remind me again how Posthumans are not undercosted as fuck?

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>>52309670
Well played anon, well played

So, anons, if you could have your somewhat balanced self insert or crossover, what would it be in this game? How would you make them interesting and not just an uber profile? How would they fit your faction, both in strengths and weaknesses? Or would they be a merc, for everyone or only a few?

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>>52310177

I don't want a self insert, I just want a full blown spider tank. The Maghariba Guard is close, but I'd love to see a PanO/Yu Jing take on it. I know why it and other full blown conventional warfare vehicles will never happen, but I still want it.

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>>52310177
Uhahu as an actual troop profile and mini.
S1 WIP14 Hacker with a Pistol? Yes, please!

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>>52310177
>Self insert
Im an NPC and so is everyone in this thread

>Cross over
Pic related, for giggles.

>>52310439
>Doomguy
>jump

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>>52310177
Is it even a question?

>>52310532
>He doesn't rocket jump for sick speed runs

>>52310320
Honestly, something the size as pic related? Maybe I'm retarded, bu that doesn't look MUCH bigger than maggy. Though I agree, I'd love to see another big, non human TAG

>>52310439
Protheion is shockingly perfect for doomguy. I'd say a plasma sniper or HMG, though, for a primary to represent the delicious BFG. >>52310674
You got me there. I'd fist fight one of you guys for a felix model for my terrible fanfiction/moderator needs.

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>>52310720
>plasma hmg
>mfw

>>52310439
>the player
>a non player character

Nigga wut.
We are simply background operators, coordinating the action on the field. Think of the commander from any rts. A character, but a blank one for you to fill

So yeah, ive already self inserted, by merit of playing the game

>>52311311
>plasma HMG
> is only available on the post acheron cutter

>>52307480
What aspect of the Tech Bee do you feel is relevant to the Frankfurt School's criticism of the west?

>>52311992
Want it from the Heretical J.H perspective. the old school pre WWII or those post modernist cucks you have today?

>>52312109
The OP was "triggered cultural marxists", and, so far as I can see, there's been no real statement from the Institute of Social Research, nor anyone I'd particularly associate with it concerning the tabletop game infinity, so I assumed it was being meant as "I don't like this thing and am going to use a buzzword", but if you do have a breakdown of why it's relevant and not just whining then feel free.

>>52308269
I don't see the problem, isn't half the fun of tacticool operators operating tactically being able to remove degenerates with extreme prejudice?

>>52311749
Then judging by my two games so far, call me Angus

>>52310720
>I'd fist fight one of you guys for a felix model for my terrible fanfiction/moderator needs.
I'll make you a Felix model if you beat up the Slavic Bloodsport poster on camera.

>>52313520
hmm. if we can coordinate a meetup... Also, by make, do you mean convert? Because I can do that. I want an official/close to official CB style sculpt. Including ass.

Anyone got a high-resolution image/render of the new Moderators?

Asking for no reason.

Which faction is best for WAACfagging?

>>52314619

All of them.

Especially Shasvastii Expeditionary Force

It looks like I'm using a lot of metallics on my Aleph guys. Is it generally better to use matte colors or other metallics for edge highlighting on them?

>>52314619
Ariadna, Tohaa, ALEPH, ISS. Steel Phalanx if your meta is dumb.

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Looking for some help painting Yu Jing.

What brand/colors do the typical YJ orange/yellow best? I usually work with Citadel or P3.

Any other tips would be appreciated, this is my first crack at yellow as a primary color.

>>52314619
All of them really. Vanilla Ariadna IMO is the strongest faction.

>>52315101
> ISS

Wut. ISS is alright now, but how on earth could they be considered one of the best factions in the game?

>>52315126
From what I've heard, painting a layer of pink, then layering yellow on top helps a ton. No idea if it's true, but I've heard it a couple of times from a couple different places, so it could be worth a shot.

>>52315175
Kuang Shi. Pump a lot of orders into high quality units with fireteam backup, and smoke and infiltrators to boot. It's easy to make an ISS list with 16+ orders and 3-6 multi-wound units. Most factions have to sacrifice one or more of those things in listbuilding.

>>52315472
I can see that, but ISS is still pretty limited even with 9 orders for 63 points and .5 SWC. While their infiltrators are better than they once were, they're still not great. They still only get one Ninja, and it is bound to be the 29 point Killer Hacker, but her weapon loadout makes her pretty crap against anything she can't isolate and get within 4 inches of. The Kanren is great and I love the guy, but he's still got a lot going against him compared to regular camo infiltrators. He is very easy to kill even with decoys since he doesn't have a real camo state to be discovered out of, and he doesn't get minus to hit mods beyond surprise shotting people. Also the whole sectorial doesn't really get troops who give minuses to hit, so you have less control on face to face rolls. You're basically stuck with smoke MSV to force enemy chances down.

I play them and don't think they're super powerful, definitely not enough to measure up against the likes of Tohaa or Ariadna. Part of it is that I don't like buying repeat unit boxes, so I don't abuse the ridiculous 8 Kuang Shi or 3 Husong availability. However, even counting those, I think a lot of sectorials are better than them. They feel pretty middle of the road these days, which is a great improvement over the gutter trash of HSN2 days.

>>52308809
Which shouldn't be hard.

"Hey remember that one time Pan O attacked us totally unprovoked, then chickened and ran when they didn't win right away?"

"Fuck Pan Oceania"

>>52315101
What's cheesy in ALEPH?

>>52314619
>>52314653
Seconding Shasvastii.

>>52315863
next time try proxying 5-8 Kuang Ski with a Hsien somewhere in the mix. Sounds like you're not taking full advantage of the sectorial.

>>52316389
Posthumus probably. They're a bit limited though since you can only take 3, so while they're busted as fuck for internal balance they only offer a little advantage externally.

>>52316389
Posthumans are 200% cheese. 300% cheese in limited insertion.

>>52316513
>>52316523
I feel really guilty knowing they're some of my favorite units.

>>52315101

As a tohaa player I'm sad they're kinda bullshit now. I started playing them when the starter came out and they were good but not busted. Then we got the Kosuil and Sukeul and shit got real...

>>52317083
>Mk1 engi/doc - 24pts 0swc
>Mk1 hacker - 28pts 0.5swc

>Mk2 sniper 38pts 1.5swc
>Mk2 hacker 35pts 0.5swc

>Mk3 spitfire 36pts 1.5swc

>Mk4 HMG 40pts 2swc
>Mk4 HRL 35pts 2swc

>Mk5 mk12 26pts 0swc
>Mk5 FO 21pts 0swc

There you go. New prices. I don't think anyone outside of a tourney will complain about you nerfing your own army, and you should be taking full advantage of bullshit undercosted cheese during tourneys anyway.

I did an approximate point calculation for each as a normal unit then subtracted 8 for the posthuman discount. Which just makes me wonder what the actual fuck CB's posthuman discount was.
I also made the Mk5 FO pay for its E/M grenades, which it wasn't doing before, and took the SWC off the mk12 profile. The massive imbalance between those loadouts is hopefully lessened.

>>52315126
Usual formula I've seen is VMC.

Orange brown base

Scrofulous Brown highlight, building up to white in some areas (although some people like to do a white highlight over the orange brown and have really thin layers of scrofulous brown to blend it together)

Cavalry brown shading (+maybe a mix of cavalry brown and black to shade really deep recesses)

I do like to confirm that painting a bit of pink before the orange brown really does help.

I like to use P3 Coal black for the base coat of the usual cloths.

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>>52313706
>I want an official/close to official CB style sculpt. Including ass
Well, if there's one thing CB is particularly good at...

So OSS cobfirmed for a this year release

>>52321288
oss?

>>52321303
Operations Subsection. Aleph Vedic sectorial.

>>52321332
confirmed where?

>>52321452
I dunno, I'm a different anon.

>>52321288
sauce.

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>>52310177
Prob Gustavus Adolphus for PanO

>von Clausewitz and Napoleon Bonaparte considered him one of the greatest generals of all time, an evaluation agreed with by George S. Patton and others.

>>52321822
Scrub got beaten by forces half his size with worse arment. No idea how someone can count him among "greatest" generals. Politicians? definitly. Law makers? sure. Maybe even one of the best dudes to make reforms in a western army? But best general ? never.

>>52321452
Carlos mentioned it

>>52312166
Nobody's falling for your typical tricks, Shlomo. Take your dance of words elsewhere.

>>52310177

PanO Power Armour version of the Neoterra Bolts. 4-2 movement, Bioimmunity, Mimitism, Veteran L2

The Kelly Gang.

>>52310177
A drop trooper like Singh with MA, but without Religious and CoC and instead with FO and a Multirifle. And if I wanted to be a broken/op profile, add an x-visor to that profile.
I have a huge boner for orbital deployment and more specifically the Akalis armor.

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Background character/obligatory black surrogate dad confirmed.

>>52322343
Hi /pol/!

>>52323758
H-hi anon...

>>52307201
>>52307201
>>52321452
Carlos and tge aleph sub forum.

>>52323758
Hi!

I want a Corregidor list that focuses on Wildcats, Tomcats and Hellcats. What do I add to support all those?

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>>52326402

>>52326402
Cat Daktari?

Seriously though, how badly do you want Wildcat core? Because I'd run a cat list as Alguacil core, Wildcat haris, Tomcat doc or engi, Hellcat BS, Intruder HMG + 1/2 Jaguars for smoke, and a Bandit or Moran to taste.

>>52327038
>Seriously though, how badly do you want Wildcat core?
How badly do I want a BS16 Spitfire/HRL? Well...

>>52327074
There is nothing wrong with having the Wildcat Core. The Wildcat Core is awesome. The problem is wanted a powerful link team that wants orders while also running multiple drop troops. Drop troops all want orders, so an Alguacil core is better since their order to point cost is better, and they will probably just sit as a defensive bunker for most of the game. It would be fine to run one AD trooper with a Wildcat core, but any more and you will have find your list hurting for orders between all your actors.

Is whoever made the Paint-compatible pixel army painters from here? Because I'd like to make more and would love some pointers.

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>>52315126
Towards the bottom of this page I made a brief step by step summary of what colors I use, if that's any use.

http://infinitytheforums.com/forum/topic/31283-the-dragon-stirs-imperial-service-in-the-making-father-lucien-sforza-finished-dead-dove-do-not-eat/?page=2

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>>52327168
Forgot the pic, I meant these.

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>>52326402
>>52327074
So the nice thing about link teams is you can turn them into a swiss army knife, so they can cover any range band while having something appropriate.

The real question is, do you want the wildcats for just a SWC platform, or more of a toolbox to get shit done while setting everything else on fire?

Once you answer those questions it lets you plan your other troop choices. Tomcats are good for objectives as either medics or engis, pick one that isn't already on the board. If you aren't running a bunch of robots, medic will probably give you more mileage.

Hellcat is for shooting, don't need him to be a button pusher, the AHD is viable however.

Intruders: Good to have around to murder things, everyone expects you to bring the HMG or MSR profiles, or both. Lt is also an option. Intruder-san will want to eat your orders.

Jaguars: Good for smoke/orders/deadpool rodeo

Alguaciles: orders/hiding the LT

REMs: Sputniks are your friends, especially the Luno as it will help establish board control. The Transductors are 8 point flash pulse order bots that double for sniffer duty if you have a stemplar. This is more relevant if you have a bunch of cheerleaders/LT for deployment zone defense.

Morans: Board control, button pusher.

Geckos: Can be decent vanguards to body block for your advancing units, if you have an engineer right behind them they can stay alive for a silly amount of time.

Iguana: I prefer it Vanilla where it can buddy up with an Interventor to bully MSV units with white noise. Still can perform dickery if you have a few hackers on hand.

Bandit: Bring one and only one since you also have AD troops. Use the KHD profile, can hack anything, either with the device or his machete.

Bring McMurrough if you want to name your list raining cats and doge, he's pretty good at ripping big expensive things in half and comes with his own smoke.

>>52327200
Your minis look great. What does the symbol on that guy's forehead mean?

>>52328674
>What does the symbol on that guy's forehead mean?
Four.

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>>52327200
Jesus christ anon you are out of fucking control

>>52328783
Thanks. Although you'd think something giant tattooed onto your forehead would be a little more meaningful.

>>52328895
The fluff of the Wu Ming is they are condemned criminals in penal regiments. Their names are taken away from them and they are only identified by designated numbers. His number looks to be 44, and he was probably branded with the number on his head by the courts.

>>52328920
Neat!

>>52328895
I don't care about you being meaningful, soldier 3177-E, only about you doing your duty.

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How the fuck do I Bakunin, you guys?

I've not ran a sectorial before, Tohaa and panO previous. Trying to get my head around Bakunin, the lack of msv2 seems like it could cause quite the roadblock for me, others have told me Bakunin doesn't need msv2 and can get around it by other means, but my concern is camo snipers and smoke tricks and the like, basically stuff I can't run up to and slap a template on.

Until now with this game all I've had to do is apply the correct cancelling technology to solve problems, so this proving difficult for me.

Are Nomads ancoms?

>>52329576
Bakunin isn't very good.

White noise from the Custodier will let you take out your opponents MSV and then you're on equal footing. You have access to smoke and eclipse. Just bring lots of morlocks.

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Anybody got examples of the studio Hac Tao color scheme applied to other YJ units? I'm considering doing all my Chinks in it, but I'm not sure if it'll look too cartoon villain-y.

>>52329576
You have access to cheap smoke, and HD+. If there is a bunch of MSV, white noise them bitches. Use a Tsyklon to launch a pitcher across the map. Use an uberfall cruise missile. Have Castro do his monkey business.

>>52329650
You can be whatever you want to be, just pay your module rent and don't endanger the ship.

>>52329867
using the Tskylon to hoof a pitcher upfield is inspired, thanks!

>>52329650
Ancoms and ancaps simultaneously, at least in Bakunin. They're a collective of "modules" that espouse different fringe ideologies (fascism, open technocracy, religious matriarchy, communism...) that band together to preserve their freedom of expression.

Tunguska is more of a kleptocratic tax haven and Corregidor is a collectivist meritocracy ruled by and for criminals.

>>52329576
bring a taskmaster, ride the wave on his coat tails

>>52330124
Always be a cheeky little shit. Combine that with spotlight and a Lizard HGL or Vertigo for smart missile fun. Play the camo shell game. Thought that was a Zero minelayer? Wrong! Its a Prowler!

Zoe and PiWell are not G:Synchronized, she is 0SWC Hacker/Engineer, so she can use zondbots, and Pi is brutal when you buff him to ignore cover mods.

Taskmasters and Lunokhods claim the center of the board and tell everyone to fuck off. Use those morlocks to throw smoke close by for heavy flame and pulzar intuitive attacks.

>>52329865
What's particularly villainous about blue, orange, white, and green?

>>52331157
Thanks for the advice, I'd totally overlooked the pulzar on the taskmaster, that works beautifully with morlock smoke. I like the dirty tricks and shenanigans it's apparent nomads are capable of, I've tried making a few lists with that in mind, but seem to come up a bit light on SWC, is this a big problem?

Also, is spamming morlocks viable? is it ok to chuck say 5 morlocks in a group all by themselves and just use their impetuous and irregular order each to cover the board in smoke, or is this a waste of points?

>>52323543
He should be played by Idris Elba

>>52327168
I am here. I am perpetually terrible as contacting and doing shit. Because I am a fullstack dev.

So... What cha want?

>>52333239
>So... What cha want?
How did you make those? Just convert a dossier to full B&W and tweak it, or did you trace everything by hand?

Also, I know others exist, can you post/link to them? I'd prefer not to repeat someone else's work.

>>52333239
>>52333278
Also, any non-obvious things you did to them? I've already noticed the broken lines to make color filling easier, any other stuff like that?

>>52333278
>>52333296
Oh, damn, no. I'm the other guy. The guy who did the website thingo. You're looking for... I have him on Twitter...

>>52333023
Taskmasters are absurd, they have a gun for every encounter, probably one of the best optimised for Duo units.

If you find you arent using much of your SWC, toss in a Sin Eater HMG, its a dedicated ARO unit, keeping a doctor's zondbot nearby to revive him is a good idea too. The Vertigo is a SWC heavy but points light unit, pairs well with any FO unit. Often Nomad players find they run out of SWC too quickly. You can have a Riot Harris that eats 4.5 SWC, a Taskmaster Duo can run you 3 SWC easy. Im curious as to what your lists look like.

Having warband units in a second group is fairly common. If you are taking 5 morlocks, its only 30 points and you get to roll on that metachemistry table for hilarious results. Having morlocks cover each other with smoke is a good way to keep their impetuous orders from killing themselves. So having a ton of smoke is going to benefit you, but it might also block your longer ranged shots, so be careful of that. I like 3 morlocks plus a moderator or transductor to toss in a regular order because sometimes you will want that one more activation.

>>52333405
>I'm the other guy. The guy who did the website thingo
In that case I have two requests:
- name of the other guy?
- resurrect the army painter or put it somewhere for download?

>>52333405
>>52333897
Also, your username/site, so I know who to poke next time the painter goes tits-up?

>>52323758
Hola.

>>52333758
Jurisdictional Command of Bakunin
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GROUP 1 10
TASKMASTER Red Fury, Pulzar, CrazyKoalas + TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Heavy Pistol, DA CCW. (1 | 53)
TSYKLON Spitfire, Pitcher / Electric Pulse. (1 | 31)
ZOE & PI-WELL . (0 | 47)
ZOE (Hacking Device. UPGRADE: Stop!) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28)
PI-WELL Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 19)
ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
REVEREND CUSTODIER Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
PROWLER (Specialist Operative) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Adhesive Launcher / Pistol, CCW. (0.5 | 33)
ZERO (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
ZERO (Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle, E/Mauler / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 19)
DAKTARI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
MODERATOR Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 10)

GROUP 2 / 5 / 5
MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 6)
MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 6)
MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 6)
MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 6)
MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 6)

4 SWC | 299 Points

Is a recent effort. I find either I end up completely gone on SWC but with big gaps, or end up like this with 2+ to spare. The other issue is choosing a link to include, whenever I try and work a list around a link I end up running out of points or SWC without feeling like I've covered the bases a 300 point list should.

>>52334463
Yeah thats a pretty normal occurrence. A little bit of points shuffling is all you need here though. Drop one Morlock, give the Prowler a spitfire, give the Tsyklon a Fuerbach and buff its AROs for giggles. And as another warning, if the Custodier has a white noise going, her ODD is turned off.

Riots are probably the most efficient HI in the game, they overshadow Moiras in my opinion. The best haris option available is probably a Custodier, Healer, and Kusanagi, then fuel that with a moderator core link. Add robots, skirmishers, and warbands to taste.

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>>52334463
>>52335030
Forgot pic

>>52321288
Hold on, so does this mean it's being released independently of Acheron Falls?

>>52335047
>overdron_victims.png

>>52335030
>>52335047
Thanks based anon. the picture is discernibly clearer to me now. Excited for my next chance to put my bakunin on the table. Appreciate all the advice!

>>52335286
That is a good point actually.

>>52335390
Happy to help. The best thing to do is get gaming experience to see which units fit your play style as theory crafting can only go so far. And if you find the fireteam options not to be quite working out, give vanilla a spin. Tomcats are game winners, Intruders are scary murder machines, and Interventors are better hackers and cheaper than custodiers.

>>52335047
As a Yu Jing player, I am in fact fucking jelly about Riot Grills.

Is there a way that haqqislam can run a lot of heavy infantry. Specifically 3 of those beautiful bastards with the arm mounted belt fed machine gun? The azra'il. I love that model and would love a small force just to show them off.

>>52335792
well you can do two azrails, a Al fassid and some Janissaries.

I aint gonna lie, Haqq has hands down the best looking HI in the game

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QK can do it alright. I'm not going to tell you this is a hyper effective tournament list, but it covers an ok amount of bases. Realistically your two Feuerbach Azrails are probably going to be ARO pieces for most of the game, laying down fire while you feed orders to the HMG for active turn killing.

>>52335979
For >>52335792 Obviously.

>>52335254
Most likely a pdf before the actual book. Similar to how USARF was a sectorial before HSN3. Most importantly for me, I'm hoping for resculpts

>>52336056
Damn right. The new Vedic sculpts we have so far are really slick. I want to see how the Dakinis will turn out.

>>52336256
>28 tiny bits to glue to each Dakini

>>52335286
SSL2, still BS 16, if you're not shooting the ML they're still having Blitzens for +3 range in most of the Plasma Sniper's positive range band and likely areas where it can shoot.

So that leaves the Riot Grrl you're singling out still at a 40% chance of disabling the Overdron compared to its 30% (assuming both parties are in cover) and the Albedo only lasts one turn, and this is disregarding any other non MSV active or reactive damage pieces that can hurt the Overdron during or before it targets the grrls.

Granted you can shoot the BS+tinbot version but what kind of idjet would leave the most vulnerable one out in possible sight? They'd deserve to have lost it at that point.


I don't get the high fear some Bakunin players have over one ability of one unit of one faction out of the oh so many possibilities while still fielding what's generally top contender for the best link in the game against a majority of opponents.

>>52335979
I'm just getting started in the game in all honesty. I just love the way those models look and had no idea if they were good or not. What would be the cheapest way to pick up the list? Also how come it seems to be broken into two groups? I apologize for my newness with this.

>>52309670
Can I save your picture?

>>52337882
You need no permission, it is the nomad way.

>>52334463
The problem with this list is the same problem with a lot of Bakunin lists. It's better in Vanilla. You're not taking increased AVA or link teams, so why even go Bakunin?

I really want to love Bakunin but the links are mostly meh. Riot Girrls are probably the best but I don't like the models barring the new starter one.

>>52339219
Getting 3 new sculpts and a tinbot before GenCon

>>52339219
Mods are good for their price at burst 5 BS13, especially in combination with a Riot Grrrl haris or Taskmaster duo. They don't operate well as the usual shitkicker defensive link, but a midfield link of a couple of those cheap spitfires, a pitcher for obvious hacking reasons and a couple of paramedics to push buttons can be a great help.

Riot Grrrls are great, they're a top tier pain train. So are Taskmasters, but they're good in vanilla too. Moiras are meh, and the only time it's worth linking Custodiers is when you take the Custodier+Healer+Kusanagi combo. Aside from links the only real significant AVA increases are Zeroes and Sin Eaters. Mind you a Sin Eater pair is not something to be fucking with.

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>>52328001
That could work. I also came up with this.
However I think I'd disagree with taking McMurrough in Wildcats lists. He's an Order hog and so are Wildcats. Better to rely on something cheaper, like Bandit or Jaguars for this type of list.

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Just got the original Khawarij sculpt Ipic related) and he's got a sheathed sword loose in the package. None of the pics I've found use the sword. Any ideas?

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>>52339816
Give it to a friendly neighbourhood Aquila Guard.

>>52339816
I'd assume along the waist. Plenty of the older sculpts come with a weapon with no real fixed spot for it. Like the male Fiday, he has a rifle but no real place to put it beyond just sticking it to his back (or in a friend's case reshaping the knife arm and hand to hold up the rifle).

Riot Grrls are IMO the best HI link available. Play around no MSV2, which is an overpriced crutch anyway.

>>52337067
In infinity models in the same group share turns. So if you want you can have 9 dudes stand still while one guy uses all their moves to jackrabbit around the board like an idiot. As a limit on that there's a group max. of 10 - you can have multiple groups, but none over 10.

Anon's list would be a little fiddly to buy, since it uses loads of Ghulams but not the guns that come in the 4 Ghulam box, nor the units that come with Ghulams in the Haqq starter pack. You might want to compromise a little bit on theme for $ efficiency. Honestly, I reckon the best way to field multiple Azra'il Feurbachs is to have one of them secretly be a cheap unit wearing a holoprojector to pretend.

>>52341113
>Honestly, I reckon the best way to field multiple Azra'il Feurbachs is to have one of them secretly be a cheap unit wearing a holoprojector to pretend.
Yeah, but where do you get a cheap holoprojector unit with S5?

>>52341761
Shit, forgot about that!

>>52339548
I wonder if Moiras could be included in the haris it would help them out. HMG Moira+Custodier+ Healer sounds pretty nice, or any combo of Moira+Custodier+Moira for that matter.


>>52339656
No disagreement on the scotsman being hungry, I like sticking him in the second group so there wouldn't be any competition. Really depends on how you are tailoring a list.

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>>52331740
Well, it's really supposed to be a kind of black. I've seen some black YJ armies and it doesn't work as well as for, say, Nomads.

>>52308566
Don't forget there's an anime of Achilles and friends in universe, sponsored by ALEPH.

>>52314985
I'd say matte, to provide some definition. But I'm not a great painter, so...

>>52317083
I've been fielding them since N2, so I don't feel bad in the slightest.
That Mk2 sniper has been terrorizing my local meta for years.

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Need some advice, dudes.

I'm gonna be playing antenna field against Haqqislam with my MRRF on Sunday and I was wondering what I should be expecting. This is the list I'm thinking of using:

Force de Réponse Rapide Merovingienne
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GROUP 1 9
PARA-COMMANDO HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 31)
PARA-COMMANDO (Forward Observer) Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
BRISCARD Lieutenant Marksman Rifle / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
BRISCARD Paramedic (Medikit) Marksman Rifle / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0 | 26)
BRISCARD (Forward Observer) Marksman Rifle / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
BRISCARD Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 23)
BRISCARD Marksman Rifle / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
112 Light Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 12)
MOBLOT (Infiltration) AP Rifle, Light Shotgun, D.E.P. / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 29)

GROUP 24
CHASSEUR AP Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 26)
CHASSEUR Rifle, Adhesive Launcher, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
CHASSEUR (Forward Observer) Rifle, Light Flamethrower, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
CHASSEUR (Forward Observer) Rifle, Light Flamethrower, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)

4 SWC | 300 Points

Plan is to hold the barest minimum needed to win whilst hampering his attempts to take the middle. Chasseurs are on mine/objective duty in the mid field, with the AP sniper perched somewhere to take out anything important. Moblot will be supported by Chasseures to clear a flank so that the para-commandoes can come in and fortify. Briscards will be the second wave, to guard the dz until needed, where they will act as a second wave and push to the midfield. Thoughts?

>>52343293
The best mines are the ones laid during deployment. And there has never really been a time when I've felt like the AP sniper has been worth it but I dunno, maybe your experiences have been better. I much prefer Bruant and the hordes of cheap short ranged anti-tank shit for that kind of work, with Briscards and Zouaves for sniping.

Shouldn't some new pictures of new dossiers/ models from Ascription waltz in here soon? When's the seminar?

>>52343430
*Adepticon

>>52343430
I was trying to find an event list or program, but it seems like they don't publish any.

>>52343430
Tomorrow afternoon american time, night normal time.

>>52315163
Naw, Vanilla PanO, YJ, CA, Tohaa and sectorials ASS and ISS are stronger.

>>52345138
A highly skilled Ariadna player who truly pulls out all the stops and decides to destroy fun forever can put together some truly disgusting camo+order spam with capable rambos and solid counters to damn near anything.
Tohaa are freaks, they don't even need a spammy bullshit list to be bullshit. I'll agree with you here, I'd say they're at the top of the pile right now.
ISS has Kuang Shi and counters camo pretty effectively with all those sensors. I'd give it to them in a direct match up, but against most other factions Ariadna is better.
ASS is noobstomp. Pretty good against experienced opponents too, but nothing much beyond that. Only one infiltrator and one marker state troop hurts.
Vanilla YJ, CA and PanO are solid, but can't compare in WAAC shittery. Their good tactics are all too expensive and tend to get drowned by orders.

Not that it matters much. 95% of it is down to the players and dice. All the factions you mentioned can beat Ariadna, and Ariadna can beat all those factions. Even dirty fucking artichoke bastards aren't invincible. Tier lists become much harder to make when games are primarily about skill and luck.

>>52345901
What's the bullshit of the day in Tohaa? Haven't played against them. What would one take for a "kick them in the balls then stomp their face once they fall" hardass tournament list

>>52346424
Viral Rasails and Symbiomates.

>>52346543
Sukeul belong on that list as well.

>>52345901
What is your meta that order spam is so good? Most top players take 13-15 orders (see interplanetary lists and/or Plebians batreps).

You probably are using too much terrain.

Rule question: I shoot a dude with a light shotgun so that the impact template covers a friendly model behind him. The rules say the shot gets cancelled, but when? Can he ARO-Shoot with a normal roll, or do I still get to FTF roll against him but any hits are cancelled?

>>52347545
You get the worst possible scenario when you mess that up. The enemy gets to ARO normal roll. Technically, your order gets changed to "Idle".

>>52310674
>>52319282
after a bit of looking, it seems that the best models to base a felix on would be a HRL wildcat or the female interventor. the first is almost perfect, but a bit small, and would require a literal head hunt. The second would require more cutting/grinding and resculpting, but is on current scale, matches design closer, and has a reasonable face to use as a base. But also comes in a box.

>>52347855

Thinking about this, it could be a rather cool rule for a few units (I'm looking at you Yu Jing). Ruthless. It can happily make attacks that include friendly models.

>>52347903
>but a bit small
Not really a problem with Felix. He's not very tall.

So, new to Infinity here, got half a Red Veil set that I split with my room-mate, I took the Haqqislam side (because the less anime girls and obvious booty the better for me, also light infantry seems to be the thing I'm into) and honestly, putting together these miniatures have been a nightmare, so many of them have been ever so slightly bent out of shape, or simply don't seem to ever line up properly, the alloy they used for these things seem to be just crazily resistant to any sort of tampering that's usually needed to fix misaligned parts, hell, removing the flash was an adventure in its own right

I've played a bunch of different games (flames of war and hordes being the latest two) and none of them ever had models that gave me this much trouble with bent yet unbendable miniatures, took me almost 4-5 hours to get these 7 together, is this a normal thing for infinity miniatures or should I be on the line with CB about this?

On a side note, would VMC Chocolate Brown for coats/capes, VMC Bonewhite mixed with umber for armor plates, and VMC Reflective green for webbing be a horrible colour setup? I'm having a hard time kinda visualising how these'll turn out and just kinda wanted to know some opinions on colours I should try out on these first few

>>52348316
The only RV Haqq model that gave me trouble was the Tuareg sniper, honestly.

That said, the whole mastering and molding process is prone to a little warping and shrinkage. Warmahoes avoided it in many cases by being GW hueg (just don't ask me to assemble metal Stormblades ever again). Damn were those early FoW minis frequently awful, though.

Those colors should be fine. Note that the Khawarij really should have a red turban, as that's supposedly what the unit name actually translates to. Traditional Tuareg turbans are frequently blue or purple.

>>52348685
The Tuaregs wrists are just not the same distance apart as they are on the rifle, I swear to god

The Khawarij was the only one that went together nicely actually (The female Ghulam that looks like a middle-aged Meryl from MGS wasn't bad either, but her backpack was bitch, still the tiniest ever gap after priming), and yeah, the red turban thing was made apparent to me (by dude who keeps bad mouthing every single other miniatures game ever and says that the only thing I should ever play for the rest of my life is infinity, guess who's gunna be the biggest hurdle to me actually enjoying the game? :P)

and the Tuareg turbans I heard were meant to be Violet, I had a VMC (I swear I have army painter and p3 stuff) lined up for that, it was the purple I used for Halo Ghosts (don't remember the name and cbf fishing it out until I actually start painting, think it was warlord purple or something), figured it'd work well enough

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>>52348316
>I'm having a hard time kinda visualising how these'll turn out and just kinda wanted to know some opinions on colours I should try out on these first few
Here, go crazy with MSPaint and see for yourself

>>52348685
>as that's supposedly what the unit name actually translates to
Khawarij means "dissenters". Historically, it refers to hardcore Muslim groups that staged revolts against the Caliphate in response to perceived decadence or secularization at various points of Islamic history.

>>52349261
I was vaguely aware of the history of the term, then took the N2 unit description I have too literally. Haqq is described as being a bit more colloquial with their language, but the original translation is really far off the Infinity usage.

>>52349108
Post the rest of those?

>>52348316
>aaaaa the flash the horror
You probably got one of the early copies, check if it's a preorder box, if it is bug the roommate for the limited Yuan Yuan because they are awesome if you go Qapu Khalqi.
Generally Infinity models are very good in that regard, most bad experiences come from the Operation Icestorm and Red Veil sets.

>Tuareg
The boob braids are the worst offenders, I think someone made the basic Tuareg model, checked if it all fits, then added ornaments. As for blue/violet/purple/indigo/black turbans, just GIS actual Tuaregs and choose whichever you like.

>>52349528
My great-great-grandfather was Tuareg, they do purple or dark blue (but will do whatever in a pinch) the main point is that the warrior's face is covered

>>52346424
Symbiomates - An invulnerability shield which has no other game precedence. Can cancel out up to 5 inbound hits in any one active face to face.
Symbiobombs - An unprecedented way to kill people through walls. Nothing does it this way now. Fatal hacking against any target?
Sukeul Commandos - Underpriced, obsoletes most other heavy hitters in Tohaa. It did not need the combination of stats, weapons, linkability and mimetism.
Chain of Command EVERYWHERE for cheap.
Effectively 3 wound models.
Hell, even their 'not that amazing' stuff is good. Sakiel troops are under 20 points for 2 wounds and phenomenal viral combi weapons

Dead game, dead thread

>>52350210
here's your (you)

>>52349445
I'm not the one doing these, I only have this and the YJ one that was already posted before. But if there's the author around please post the others (if there are any), they're extra usefu for us gramps that can't use Photoshop

>>52350210
Lazy troll, lazy bait.

How THE FUCK do you fold these pieces of shit scenery from red veil.

>>52351751
With your hands, carefully.

>>52351751
The Ice Storm buildings are almost three hands the first time. Haven't acquired the RV set buildings yet.

Which is a better first TAG purchase for a newish PanO player? The Jotum or the Tikbalang/Uhlan pack?

Both seem awesome, but I'm leaning towards the double pack because I could see them being used in more lists than the Jotum.

>>52354019
Jotum, hands down. It's basically the designated beginner TAG. More forgiving of mistakes than most others because of those defensive values and extra weapons.

>>52351751
It is hard to describe but they fold upward and inward.

>>52354166
My concern with the Jotum is that it isn't available in a sectorial. The double pack of Tikbalang/Uhlan can fit in a sectorials each plus vanilla.

Is doing just vanilla with the Jotum worth it?

>>52354960
There will be a svalhreima sectorial eventually

Either way, vanilla has its own merits

>>52355518
Only place to take those damn Nisses. They were the bane of my existence for quite a while when I first got started. Eventually just started Fidaying them in the dick whenever I knew I was going up against PanO.

I think I'll try the Jotum then, thanks!

On another note, I really struggle to get use out of a Nisse sniper. It seems to die in ARO very easily. Am I misunderstanding something? Is it not meant to be an ARO piece? Is the Nisse HMG just better?

>>52356040
They can function as an ARO piece, but they shine better in the active turn. Reducing or eliminating your opponent's ODD or Mimetism is great and denying their smoke using units the option to smoke+dodge is the strongest use my friends have gotten out of them.

Though if you plop a Nisse in cover it's a -6 to your opponent's BS attacks. If you do get the HMG one can compound that to a -9 by going into suppressive fire.

Though despite the negatives, there's ways around and dumb luck to crit him off the table. My Djanbazan links can attest to that.

>>52356092
So they are less of an ARO piece and more of an active turn piece? Huh. I got told by the guys at my locals that snipers are mostly for ARO.

Then usually in the same sentence they will say "but they never seem to work for me." Maybe this is why.

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>>52356040
Nisse Sniper makes an excellent ARO piece! Which is why people tend to focus them down, either through high burst weaponry or shenanigans like this >>52355566
This is also true of the Intruder, Grenzer etc. I've had so much bad luck with snipers that for a while I stopped using them. Only this year my Nisse shook his bad luck off and started shutting down tables and being a nuisance. But I always keep a Paramedic, Doctor or Palbot nearby.
HMG Nisse is a great active turn piece and because they are fairly inexpensive you can easily fit two Nisses in a list.

>>52356184
Some snipers work that way better than others. The multi trait of the Nisse's sniper rifle helps by making your one die turn into multiple damage dice on the reactive, but ultimately just use him to engage shorter range units from beyond their effective ranges and when needed he can hold down a lane. Always remember if you put something out just to ARO expect it to die.

Personally I've moved away from dedicated ARO pieces, or at least treating them like it. I was often told the feuerbach Azra'il was a good ARO piece. Big gun with lots of damage dice, heavy dude who can take a hit and keep shooting. But his B2 AP+DA mode got way more done than the B1 EXP mode. So I tend to run him more aggressively. So now he's got a scary gun that hates on armor and multiple wounds, can take a shot and keep coming, and look badass doing it.

>>52349528
It does not have the Yuan Yuan, I asked my room-mate what he wanted to do with it when we were splitting it, he said "don't think there's anything like that in here" looked through it and went on the journey of discovery of "Oh, it's for preorders only"

Is there any particular reason that the bad experiences are from Icestorm and Red Veil? or is just a confirmation bias thing, in that new players tend to bitch more about flash made in an alloy so hard it stripped one of my cheap files >.>

>>52356184
>>52356300

The only sniper that I feel comfortable leaving in ARO is a Sin Eater or a merc with a .5 SWC sniper. 1.5SWC is too much just to have something sit around for a single shot when it can instead go hunting with twice as much dice.

Missile launchers are the real ARO pieces, and they are often stuck in links to up that potential. Like that JSA mad bastard with 4 haramaki MLs and a Domaru.

>>52356309
me again

I was watching some videos to do with Red Veil on youtube, and one of them had a "where to go to now" suggesting Leila Sharif and the Maghariba Guard, yet it appears that I can only get Leila Sharif if I buy her with a HVT and the guy they made the suggestion for Yu Jing, and my roommate ain't keen on splitting that particular box (I suspect he has his own plan) is there any official way to get just the one miniature I want? or do I have to deal with what looks like the "Make sure to get these 3 guys you don't want, to get the one that you do, thanks" issue, and/or ebay?

>>52356730
Helps the Sin Eater has Neurocinetics. Full burst ARO snipers are solid. Hence why fireteams that just hold a spot with sniper fire can be annoying.

But I agree with costs to purpose. I'm not taking a 53/2 model just to sit him in one spot and suppressive fire. He's getting where he needs to, killing shit, and dropping some smoke to cover my other guys and to trickshot through with a Djanbazan.

>>52356730
>>52356792
Taking Sin-Eater sniper is a bit of a waste. He's much better with a high burst weapon.

Nisse is only 34 pts and has no access to smoke, so ARO piece is his purpose.

>>52356742
I think the Leila thing is suggested entirely so you can do a split box with your buddy. Actually YJ tend to come out of that deal a bit better - Leila isn't super special.

If you buy a TAG, the best support is, er, the support box, which helps you keep a centrepiece alive. If you don't buy a TAG, like most of us, or want to play intermediate point levels, Djanbazan/Govad is recommended. If you have no idea what you want, the one model "Spec Ops" pack is a universal proxy for infantry figures. Also comes packed with the least user friendly weapon-conversion kit ever!

>>52356742
>my roommate ain't keen on splitting that particular box
Try to convince him, because the YJ guy is ace and he's missing out. Both special characters take the Red Veil armies to exactly 200pts.
Have a deal where you take the HVT along with Leia and pay 2/3rds of the price. You're going to need an HVT anyway, so might get it now, Leia is pretty good and you two can play the special scenario with those guys.

As for Maggie, it's a bit of a marketing spiel. They like pushing TAGs. Not that Maggie isn't great (she's super cheap for a TAG her class), but she's not essential.

>>52356792
Hence why i singled the Sin Eater out. He is in a pretty unique position where the mantra of sniper for ARO actually holds true.

>>52356862
Maybe, but I was saying I am comfortable with it. Often that 2 SWC HMG just cant fit in a list, but the MSR will.

>>52356742
If convincing him doesn't work the official forums have a place for buying individual models as well as poking at ebay and other such sites. Or what I did, buy the box, keep what you want and sell the rest to someone local. People really like the madtraps.

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>when hyperpowers come to your planet and steal your teseum

>>52356963
I guess after Bolt Action, and being someone that hates proxies, I'm a little salty at the amount of proxies I'm forced to run in a list, yet the lack of choice in models that I get, when I buy a model that I actually want

I feel like being someone who actually enjoys WYSIWYG modelling is like being a second class citizen

>>52357431
Unfortunately if you're a hardcore WYSIWYG you're goint to get disappointed in this game. It's my main gripe with CB, the models are very good quality but releases are so few and far away and without official customization that proxies are for the most part necessary.

>>52357564
Luckily I'm here because I enjoyed the hell out of necromunda back in the day, and this seems like the combat'll be close to it (with a bunch of extra chrome and complexity because why not), but without the glorious campaign

Proxies are probably partly because they keep insisting on using 500% metal for everything, surely an arms and weapons sprue wouldn't be the worst thing in the world?

>>52357694
The spec-ops guys come with weapon sprues, but getting them on models requires a bit more skill than with plastic guys.

I thought about giving the biker ABH an ALEPH sniper rifle, but I relented. I think I'll just leave her as she is, maybe try to find a way to put the rifle on the base or on a shoulder strap.

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I guess Knauf is Greek.

>>52357754
Nah I think it's because the manga is the new hot thing so they slapped it onto the closest festivity to promote it

>>52356963
Could you explain how this works? how do they or you know that if you send them money/models you will get the stuff you want back?

>>52358032
The guy that does it is pretty well known in the community and in addition to the split box deals he has his own e-shop so it's not really a literally who.

>>52358080
I understand that, but do you have to send him your adress and he sends you his account number etc or something like that? there are at least 3 models I want from dire foes that I want, and no shop sells them here. Plus am afraid that money transfers from my country could be problematic, because of the embargo etc.

>>52358388
Yes of course you have to give him a shipping address and you should have PayPal or something equivalent, like any other online shop; he ships worldwide but if there are problems the best thing would be to ask him directly, easiest way to contact is sending him a PM on the official forums, he's called ChoKonnit.

Btw consider that he has a limited amount of split stock and can't accomodate every single request, laws of market and all that yadda yadda so no guarantee that he has the models you want right now

>because of the embargo etc.
Where do you live mang?

>>52358560
Meh I don't have paypal, and I live in the Krym area. Sevastopol to be exact.
Kind of a sucks that for m aleph there is no way to properly link thorakites without thrasymedes. Well maybe CB will put him in a blister or something. they realy did enough boxs already, it is as if they aren't doing anything else.

>>52356864
While Leila is "only" good in Vanilla, she has become one of the best toolkit units in sectorials. Her flexibility in HB borders on ridiculous, and a specialist for her pointcost with her rifle has made her an auto include for my HB lists.

>>52358610
You always have Nessaie Alke or Hector.

>Crimea
Well, that certainly does complicate things.

>>52307421
I think the design is trash, personally. Crab Bot is amazing though.

>>52358658
I don't know about hector, he costs like a TAG. Sure he gets plasma weapons, but without msv2 high cost weapons seem shit as there is always smoke everywhere. alka is cheaper, but she lacks long range weapons, plus she has a female model. I don't like to play with female models, if she had a HRL or at least X-visor or msv1, I could force myself to use her. I am using atalanta as a mk12 agama.

>>52358794
Smoke clears up when the turn is over and Hector is priced like a TAG because he punches like one.
I've been on the receiving end of him linked with Myrms and Machaon. Took almost the entire game to put him down.

>>52358863
I ment other people smoke. List here are divided in three cathegories. those that smoke, those that camo and those that came and smoke at the same time.

>>52358639
not to mention that in addition to her nice profile she can funcition as 5th member of a Ghulam fireteam in a sectorial that by design has only AVA4 on them, and can also link with the ridiculously good Muyibs. 10/10 priority for any HB player.

>>52359074
wow, if your meta is really like that I'd start playing ISS and become king

>>52358388
If you mean ChoKonnit/Shae-Konnit, he operates as just a dude you Paypal money to and he sends you minis (which I recommend, I used his service 3 times and everything was 100% ok). If you don't have Paypal or any commonly accepted way to transfer money to UK there's your main problem.

What's the Infinity meta like in the Crimea, BTW?

>>52358863
>Hector is priced like a TAG because he punches like one.
Come to CA. We have TAG-priced HI and HI-priced TAGs.

>>52359118
My thoughts exactly. I automatically ended his sentence with "...and those that put Rui Shi drones in suppressive fire".

>>52357792
If it weren't for Corvus Belli, I wouldn't know about so many international holidays.

>>52359140
>Come to CA.
NOT TODAY, EI!

>>52359647
CA has free ice cream for all new members. Join today for free ice cream.

>>52359996
...What flavour?

>>52360090
We got vanilla, we got mint, we got cookie dough and we got chocolate. We tried to get some more like banana, but we're not entirely sure what you guys use to make that stuff. It sure as fuck isn't banana.

>>52360208
Have you tried using bits of powdered Exrah? If nothing else they might make for a decent food coloring.

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>>52360208
>no strawberry
YOUR FATE IS SEALED, ALIEN SCUM

>>52360208
Does the mint have those little chocolate bits in? This is important.

>>52360381
Human, I do not even like mint ice cream and I still find the implication that we would somehow not put chocolate chips in it highly insulting.

>>52360370
We had some originally, but after the neapolitan incident it unfortunately could not be recovered. If our agents get more of the stuff we'll be sure to put it back on the list.

>>52360362
We tested that. Exrah taste abhorrent even in extremely small doses, they are fit only for morat field rations.

>>52359140
Cho is awesome.

>>52359140
yeah I don't have stuff like pay pal. The "meta" if you can call 5 people a meta, consist of me playing steel phalanx, two people playing ariadna, one person playing yu jing and a technicly one more dude and his girlfriend who own all models for everything, but they mostly paint. We are too pleb to play against for them.

>>52357181
tupac alive in Rodina, tupac making album of Arianda.

>>52361006
>one more dude and his girlfriend who own all models for everything, but they mostly paint
Sounds like what we had here until about a year ago. Dude couldn't start an Infinity scene to safe his life, not ever realizing that the Infinity maxim applied in spades: It was never about the game; he was an obvious and unapologetic douche.

>>52361253
Well to be honest by his standards we are pleb. His father and the girls father are both high ranking generals, they own ton of luxury houses here. We just happen to go to the same univeristy. And no do not ask me, why didn't he go to an univeristy in UK, like everyone normal with such money would.

>>52361294
Definitely a different guy, then, though our local guy certainly acts like the world owes him a living. He does have a circle of troglodytes that will play with him, but having overheard how he treats them, I will never be one of them.

>>52361386
Well, to be honest I know that the dudes father owns at least 11 flats in one exclusive building here, and I know he also has a few summer villas. And those are things only here, he has even more in other places, not that I keep track. He is super rich compering to us. one such flat makes around ~230k $ per year, and I do know if, because my dad owns 2 such flats. The villas probably make 3-4 as much, but can make even more if the location is good. I mean the dude and his girlfriend walk around with two bodyguards, so no one grabs him.
So we are pleb compering to him. I actualy wonder why he comes to the store or even plays with us from time to time.

>>52310320
>Spider tank
>6 (SIX!) legs

Clearly an ant tank then.

>>52361571
Rich people are just people, sometimes they like playing games. Bodyguards who don't care about his nerd hobbies probably don't make good opponents.

>>52361757
>Rich people are just people,
Sometimes. If he's showing up then he might want to be more normal, but it can be hard to tell. Every trust fund kid is different.

>>52359084
Absolutely. She is strongest in a linkteam. The YJ character might have a slight edge in vanilla, but in sectorials, she hows her true strength.

Highlights from Adepticon seminar:
>new Joan soon
>focus on Hospitallers in MO
>Ayyar next month
>300pts Steel Phalanx box
>300pts boxes will no longer include starter packs
>Yuan Yuan will be in a non-human sectorial
>new Tunguska unit later this year
>Szally will not be redesigned until Tunguska sectorial

>>52357754
First thing I'm doing with the model is giving him that damn visor. He looks like MGS1 Solid Snake in this picture, while his model looks like a spanish man in a tohaa wig.

>>52363293
>Ayyar next month

All my hopes and dreams realized.

>>52356864

>Leila isn't super special

In the sense that a +BS, KHD, marksmanrifle, and D-charges for the same cost as the Ghulam Hacker with no SWC isn't super special, sure. I never run a Ghulam link without her now.

>>52363532
She's crazy special: Because it's a fantastic combo of economical but powerful abilities.

KHD: Cheap, specialist, gives markerstate and allows her to dunk any enemy hacker.
Shock Marksman: Shock ammo. Effective up to 24 inches and dumps on rifles at those ranges. Part of link team. Cheap as chips.
D-Charges: Close combat ability and objective power.

Perfect efficiency. Zero waste. No stupid 'Have some BTS3 and Bioimmunity at the cost of +6 points' or 'Have higher CC and a CCW but no MA' nonsense.

Look at her. Look at Bipandra. She makes Bipandra look like a piece of shit.

>>52363602
>She makes Bipandra look like a piece of shit.
Not an impressive feat desu senpai

>>52363602

Biprandra is a piece of shit. Like, how did that model get out of playtesting?

>>52356742
me again

>>52363602
So basically, it's lucky that she's kind of a miniature I'd like to have, because named character that isn't fucking Saladin

Honestly, the CB guy (I forget his name, I think it was Carlos, but that's probably me just being racist because he's spanish) suggesting a Maghariba and Leila Sharif is basically just him trying to hype up TAG's, but they're not actually terrible, and I should look at the Haqqislam support box for an engineer, which as I understand is a doctor for the TAG, but doesn't roll on WIP so I can't just assume it'll happen like I can with Doctors?

>>52363708
One of the CB guys is named Carlos, yes.

>>52363789
Two actually iirc

>>52363801
One is arguably more important to the game than the other, but the other is seen more often.

>>52363708
Engineers still use their WIP to determine repairs. Literally just change "heals W" to "heals STR" but the STR model doesn't need to be unconscious so cue funny moments of your opponent knocking out his own Jotum.

>>52363789
Don't worry, I'm still probably racist

>>52363857
Ah, so (according to 1d4chan) my high WIP still helps me keep stuff in the fight, but is kinda offset from the fact they die easy anyway, does that actually apply to the TAG? and I get the hilarious thing of a dude/chick with a spanner hanging off the back of it at all times?

(I'm still kinda shopping around for ideas on what to do, as I'm still assembling/painting my half of the red veil starter, so excuse the explain it to me like I'm 5 requests)

Also, I don't suppose CB (or anyone I guess) sell an A5 version of the rulebook? As much as I enjoy hardcovers for the book shelf, I'm not really one to like having my phone out to check rules during games, books are just nicer to me and all that (Although from my light searching, I think I just gotta get a spiral bound job from officeworks or something)

>>52363922
TAGs are just big targets that can be hacked. Really the big downside of most is their cost relative to their gear and weapons. Guijia is a damn cool TAG but for 105 or so points? I'll look elsewhere.

The big part of Maggie is the 78 points with a solid gun and flamethrowers. If you got 20 extra to spare can give her a 360 visor and she turns into an annoying suppressive fire platform.

>>52363922
Me again

I basically immediately noticed the missing stuff from the statlines of some of my dudes (like Doctor Plus and all that), me and my room-mate will probably go through the "start here you dumb shit" book word for word, should we try and use the "real" statlines for our troops straight away? would that break/ruin anything? (we're not retards on rules or anything, but the N3 book is just not as nice for reading cover-to-cover as some others have been, at least when you have only the faintest ideas of how the mechanics work)

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>>52363708
If it was this guy: it's Carlos "Bostria" Llauger and he's the art director IIRC. Also became company face because he's usually the one attending events and talking at seminars.
This man is your friend. Just forgive him his accent.

>>52364030
I'd do some dumbed down missions till you got stats and such straight in your head. I often forgot the +3 ARM for cover for the longest time. But once you feel solid on the common basics, try out those doctors and wacky ammo.

>>52364032
Nope, The art director is Carlos Torres.

>>52363988
I'm also kinda dubious on spending as much as some armies cost for some other games, for a single miniature, it's a little much and all, but the model seems nice and I enjoy light armor in games (throwing armoured cars around in ww2 games for instance) but I'm unsure how the thing actually plays, from what I've heard it can move between mobile pillbox, to "fuck that one guy in particular"

>>52364032
That was the guy, I was drunk when I first heard him, so I had trouble understanding a single word, I do enjoy his sense of humor though, he seems like a coolbrodudefriend

>>52364068
Sounds good, I was just curious as the Yu Jing didn't seem to be missing as many extras on their taglines (although honestly I didn't read exactly what it was as the first game is ages away as I have a thing about playing games with primed and unpainted miniatures) and was immediately salty that what my read of 1d4chan told me was one of the special things about my faction was missing >.>

>>52364102
I'd pass on Maggie starting out. TAGs do take some finesse to play well and opponents might not be able to take her head on but they can just drown her in smoke or glue and kill everyone else while picking up boxes and pushing buttons.

I'd recommend the support box, remote box (the two legged ones), and a nice specialist piece like the Al'Hawwa hacker, Tuareg hacker/doctor, or the Barid and his many useful options.

>>52363293
>new Tunguska unit later this year
Kriza Borac?

>>52364167
From what I understand of the game, is that there's something about objectives that require specialists, but apparent forward observer is one that fills that need or something? Are they random or scenario defined or something?

Those model suggestions seem alright, although here in australia they'll cost almost 20% more than the entirety of red veil, and that just hurts!

Still, will add them to my Wishlist, not like It'll be before EOFY sales that I get the first 7 finished..

Speaking of painting these buggers, were there decal sheets or something? Because the studio models seem to have a lot of imagery on them, but the box didn't have any in there, and I haven't seen any when browsing, are they even a thing for infinity or are those printed onto transfer paper by the painters?

>>52364377
>Are they random or scenario defined or something?
Scenario defined. Pretty much every scenario uses FO, Paramedic, Doctor, Engineer, Chain of Command, Hacker and Specialist Operative. In some of them specific specialists have an advantage, e.g. Doctor/Paramedic gets a +3 WIP bonus for activating Tech-Coffins and connecting antennas in Cold Sleep.

Just a couple more hours till Adepticon pics drop I guess?

I'd guess they'd held something back from the earlier Rumble Seminar dossiers, but probably nothing huge, right? Like maybe this months releases and maybe a handful other dossiers?

Anyway auto update is go, I'm hungry for some new modelporn.

>>52363801
Actually three.

>>52360636
>Human
Frogga, please.

>>52361757
>Bodyguards who don't care about his nerd hobbies probably don't make good opponents.
Judging by the number of ex-military guys playing Infinity, you might be surprised.

>>52364560
I´ve been watching the streaming, not any new pictire.

>>52363293
>Yuan Yuan will be in a non-human sectorial
Caskuda 2.0?

Also, post link to seminar, preferably not a facebook one.

>>52364377
Bummer on Aussie prices. But don't feel like you need to rush to 300 point games. I still play more 200 and less games around my corner of the world.

But specialists are regularly defined by ITS missions, but it's universally shown FOs, Hackers, Paramedics, Doctors, Chain of Command, Engineers, and Specialist Operatives can complete tasks. Sometimes missions add bonuses for specific specialists (Supplies gives a +3 WIP for paramedics and doctors opening techcoffins). Though there are unofficial missions made by the fanbase that change things up.

>>52364727
Tohaa sectorial seems more probable

>>52364709
So they're on already?

>>52365000
It´s allready finished
This guy summarized it
>>52363293

>>52363293
>new Tunguska unit later this year
Holomen I hope, or one of the new Zonds we're supposed to get. The HI would be kind of boring I think but they seem to like to sculpt those a lot lately.
>Szally will not be redesigned until Tunguska sectorial
I hope she looks basically the same. I love my potato.

>>52363293
Anything for CA or Yu Jing that was not in the ROR66 seminar?

>>52365151
There were new Zond rumors? When did this happen?

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>>52366357
One of the big events in Spain a while back. One of the players got their book signed and they added the names of a bunch of Tunguska units.

>>52366649
Ohhh shit, completely forgot about those. Puppetactica makes me think G:Jumper. Zondnautica could be anything; space navy or blue water navy. If its anything like the other Varuna units, then it could be a stealth Zond.

Where are some good online retailers to buy from? My store doesn't carry Infinity and is closing down in a month. I want to fill the missing holes in my sectorial so I can have a complete selection to list build from, but it's getting close to 100 bucks for that. This game is bloody expensive.

>>52367323
For the US I use miniature market.

>>52367323
Gamenerdz can save a bit if you're in the US as well.

>>52363293
>focus on Hospitallers in MO
Hah, that's some old news right there.

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So apparently ALIVE costs 3 points fewer if you add them separately, but they are irregular. So I did the only reasonable thing I could think of, and use as many irregular troops as possible. The Sepulchre has to be in, not too sure about the Swiss. and Croc however.

>>52367323
+1 for gamenerdz because they give additional discounts for every extra item you buy and they have free shipping regardless of the size of your order.

>Friend and I are learning Infinity
>At first, we try to setup so we have good AROs first turn
>The 2nd player though gets his shit shoved in by fire first turn
>Then we start setting up everything prone or hidden
>2nd Player cedes the entire board and scenario because he can't ARO

What do your typical deployments look like anons? We just need to git gud?

>>52370357
Deployment is a touch and go thing and by no means easy. Always assume you will lose someone, but make sure it's spent making life difficult for your opponent. Focus on covering your DZ as well as contesting key zones instead of the whole board. Place your AROS such that your opponent can't ignore them, but can't easily get to them without spending extra orders. Resist that urge to place something like your TR where it can see the entire board because that means it's easy for counters to get to them. Make your opponent burn those orders to deal with it.

>>52370357
>What do your typical deployments look like anons? We just need to git gud?
it's touch and go

>>52363293
No news about fantasy skirmish?

>>52372028
Just that they know they need more than one game to exist as a company and that they would really want to make a fantasy skirmish.

>>52368151
In rules terms yeah, but Hospitallers have a criminally low number of sculpts.

>>52370357
it depends heavily on whether I'm going first or second, and whether I'm deploying first or second.

Essentially, deployment is all about predicting what your opponent will try to do, and setting up in such a way as to make it as hard as possible. Determine what your primary and secondary firelanes are, and deploy your ARO pieces to cover them. Resist the urge to place your ARO units in positions that give them vision of multiple firelanes; more angles of attack just make them more vulnerable.

>>52370357
Assume anything left out in ARO will die, there are just too many ways for the active player to get the advantage. Because of this I don't like to invest many points into an ARO unit, a TR bot is about as much as I'll be willing to spend. You want to waste as many orders as possible so try not to be in LoF with his big guns, make him move them to you.

For my typical lists I try to have 2 longer range AROs, usually a TR bot and a link with something like a missile launcher or a sniper. Secondary AROs would be cheap flashpulse repeater bots or a warcor.

>>52372028
No, in another seminar or interview they said that CB would have to completely shift focus to fantasy (which means no Infinity releases for a long time) in order to do a new game. BUT Carlos heavily implied something special possibly related to those nakpin ideas for Gencon during the Adepticon Q&A

>>52364167
So, just for another "Explain it to me like I'm 5" double check

These links, these are the products you mentioned?

http://www.thecombatcompany.com/Infinity-Haqqislam-Al-Hawwa-Hacker-one-1-Haqqislam-Al-Hawwa-Hacker

http://www.thecombatcompany.com/infinity/haqqislam/remotes/haqqislam-remotes-rem/

http://www.thecombatcompany.com/infinity/haqqislam/remotes/haqqislam-remotes-rem/

And the recommendation is to just fuck around with one or two of these at the 200 points mark for a while?

>>52373535
Yeah.

>>52361757
yeah. well for that I would have to assume that me and my family are the same kind of "people" as those free loaders that live in Moscov. And while my family is not super rich, I would not class those things as people.

>>52373892
>I would not class those things as people
I mean, that would imply Russians are people in the first place.

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>>52374094

>>52372072
>stop best 15mm historical minis line
>waah we cannot live as a company on only one game
What did they mean by this?

>>52373892
>I would not class those things as people.
You mean the rich or the poor are "things that are not people"? trick question, it's you

>>52374596
have you ever seen or been around poor Russians? They belong to the human race in name only, and that is it.
>>52374094
Why wouldn't you? An empire that never lost a war, beat all opponents that went up against it.best culture, dominant patriarchs in the best religion, healthy balance between nationalism and being open to people from outside. If any group can be called people it is the Russians.

>>52374641
>They belong to the human race in name only, and that is it.
Clearly a fault of their own rather than of the kleptocratic system that keeps them down.

Rich Russians are even worse. Nowhere else will you find people with less taste and class. It's like an entire aristocracy composed out of up-jumped gangster rappers.

>>52374641
>never lost a war
>what is the Russo-Japanese war
>what is the Cold War
>to be fair nobody really won the Cold War, but Russia lost harder than anyone

>>52374806
>to be fair nobody really won the Cold War, but Russia lost harder than anyone
The jury is still out. If the west hasn't committed suicide-by-socialism in 50 years then we can call it, but that KGB long gambit of destroying western civilization by taking over it's academia and media hasn't finished playing out yet.

>>52374806
I think it's safe to say that they lost, given that their entire political system collapsed while that of the US didn't.

>being open to people from outside
Lmao. Russians treat anyone who's better off than them (like Western Europeans) with vitriolic envy while anyone worse off than them (like Caucasians) get treated no better than dirt.

Thank God this thread is burning soon

>>52374898
At least it's not entirely gay for catboys.

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How can organics even compete?

>>52370357
When i started playing, I used to put everything on Suppressive fire. However, not anymore there is more finesse to AROs.

>>52375010
Can't wait for /co/ to pick Outrage up and lust mostly after Uhahu anyway

>>52375010
scans when?

>>52375056
I preordered the manga, but I want scans to put them up on /co/.
Spread the gospel of Infinity across the boards.

>>52375003
There's only one catboy we're gay for.

>>52375056
It's 20 bucks with a free mini you will probably be able to flog for 30 bucks in 5 months time, I wouldn't hold my breath.

>>52375010
Robots are not for lewd, they are pure

>>52375085
HISPANIC WOMEN ARE BUILT FOR TAG COCK

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>>52375083
>>52375071
I preordered myself. just want to read it. Loves CB, gw cant even be my side girl.

We need a new thread.

>>52375358
dibs

okey

>>52375503
>>52375503
>>52375503