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Do liches whose phylactery is destroyed go to the afterlife as a normal mortal or does their soul get destroyed completely?

>>52303720
Get called a power gaming munchkin because my three favorite classes are the monk, druid and mystic. Umm what?

>>52303764
You are a powergaming munchkin if you play anything other than an Int based fighter.

Anons? If WoTC decided to do an Unearthed Arcana giving us 5e updates of old races, what races would you like to see get the playable treatment?

Personally, top of my list would be Lupins, Aranea, Dray, Diaboli, Dhampyrs, Shardminds and Calibans. Also, a decent update of the Warforged and Changeling would be lovely.

So what conclusion did we come to on vampire+sea?

I'm also interested in this:

>Misty Escape. When it drops to 0 hit points outside its resting place, the vampire transforms into a cloud of mist (as in the Shapechanger trait) instead offal lin g unconscious, provided that it isn't in sun light or running water. If it can't transform, it is destroyed.

>Shapechanger. If the vampire isn't in sun light or running water, it can use its action to polymorph into a Tiny bat or a Medium cloud of mist, or back into its true form... it can't pass through water.

Does that mean that if a sea is dropped on it and deals enough force damage to bring it to 0 HP, but we assume it's not flowing and can't permakill it, it turns into mist but then can't move? Like, it's just stuck at the bottom of the sea until the sea evaporates?

>>52303812
>Lupins, Aranea, Dray, Diaboli, Dhampyrs, Shardminds and Calibans
literally who

>>52303800
>Int based fighter
How is that even viable

>>52303812
>Shardminds
Yes please especially for my nomad mystic idea.

>>52303852
Make the enemies surrender to your big bulging brain with superior roleplay.

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>>52303852
I AM THE GREETEST

>>52303821
Lupins: Faux-French Swashbuckler-style wolf-people from Mystara, alongside nomadic barbarian clans and Amerindian-inspired tribes who ride around on giant wolves hunting werewolves. A PC race introduced in Mystara and in Red Steel, for 1st and 2nd edition. Updated to 3e in Dragon Magazine.

Aranea: Sapient, sorcerously talented, shapeshifting giant spiders. Hail from the Red Steel setting in AD&D.

Dray: An experiment in evolving humans into dragons, originating from the Dark Sun adventure "City by the Silt Sea" for AD&D.

Diaboli: Peaceful, Chaotic-Good aligned refugees from the Plane of Dreams who happen to look like stereotypical purple-skinned devils. Mystaran race from 1st edition, updated to 3e in Dragon Magazine.

Dhampyrs: Humans with blood lineage tainted by vampirism without being "half-vampire" templated. I don't think these guys were actually ever playable in D&D outside of 4th edition.

Shardmind: Sapient, golem-like race of psionic energy hosted inside bodies of pure crystal. Hail from 4th edition's PHB 3.

Calibans: Fantasy mutants born of black magic, prenatal curses, the sins of their parents, etc. Hail from the 3rd edition update of Ravenloft.

How far can you take the description of immunity to nonmagical attacks? Is the creature immune to bullets, artillery, nukes?

>>52303720
Lhizjit has wares if you have coin.

>>52303724

"A lich is created by an arcane ritual that traps the wizard's soul within a phylactery. Doing so binds the soul to the mortal world, preventing it from traveling to the Outer Planes after death."

I think that implies that the soul is the phylactery, so it's super-killed when the phylactery is destroyed.

>>52303874
Personally? Bullets and artillery, sure. Protection from Normal Missiles explicitly included stuff like that back in, what, 2nd edition? 1st? Nukes I'd say would require actual Atomic/Radiation Resistance, since they're an energy attack and not, strictly speaking, a physical one.

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>>52303720
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uxJxMjz3Io

>>52303720
>How often do you dragon?
Every dragon should be a huge thing, and the player should be hearing rumors and tales about it long before encountering it. The only dragon in my campaign so far is an ancient green one worshipped as a god on another planet. (And it is actually a god, can give spells to clerics and everything)

>>52303764
Monk's fine but the other two are pretty broken/munchkinny.

Monk can feel broken depending on what you're fighting.

>>52303871
>Lupins: Faux-French Swashbuckler-style wolf-people from Mystara, alongside nomadic barbarian clans and Amerindian-inspired tribes who ride around on giant wolves hunting werewolves. A PC race introduced in Mystara and in Red Steel, for 1st and 2nd edition. Updated to 3e in Dragon Magazine.
>Aranea: Sapient, sorcerously talented, shapeshifting giant spiders. Hail from the Red Steel setting in AD&D.
>Dray: An experiment in evolving humans into dragons, originating from the Dark Sun adventure "City by the Silt Sea" for AD&D.
>Diaboli: Peaceful, Chaotic-Good aligned refugees from the Plane of Dreams who happen to look like stereotypical purple-skinned devils. Mystaran race from 1st edition, updated to 3e in Dragon Magazine.
>Dhampyrs: Humans with blood lineage tainted by vampirism without being "half-vampire" templated. I don't think these guys were actually ever playable in D&D outside of 4th edition.
>Shardmind: Sapient, golem-like race of psionic energy hosted inside bodies of pure crystal. Hail from 4th edition's PHB 3.
>Calibans: Fantasy mutants born of black magic, prenatal curses, the sins of their parents, etc. Hail from the 3rd edition update of Ravenloft.

All sound interesting

>>52303918
This might make for a cool NPC class.

>>52303764
Mystic is pretty obscenely overpowered/ovverversatile/broken, the other two are fine, although monks are really out of place in certain settings.

>>52303871
Thank you.
>>52303886
Thank you!

>>52303918
>being street wise has nothing to do with wisdom
my sides

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>>52303720
Discuss the wall of the faithless more

>>52303971
>Mystic is pretty obscenely overpowered/ovverversatile/broken,
Umm no it not that bad as people make it out to be and most people would specialise for their order. Wizards are worse about those issues.

>>52303971
Only wizards and clerics get to have fun.

>>52303886
In what way does it at all imply the soul is the phylactery?
It clearly stated the soul is WITHIN the phylactery. The phylactery is essentially just something preventing the soul from moving on to the afterlife as it normally would. Its like putting your valuables in a safe bolted to the floor.

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>>52304025
>>52304029
Oh boy, here we go, the weeaboos are out in force this morning to defend their anime class that can fill any niche in the game with like 2 disciplines and still have like 8 to spare. Lets not even talk about how they basically have Subtle Casting all the time and some of their powers are outright broken RAW (Infinite Darkness, an attack that's not specified as a standard action, several powers who's secondary effects take place even on a passed save, ect).

Mystic is trash, and the people who are defending it are even worse trash who have no sense of game-design, balance, or are too enamoured with their ideas for dumb out-of-place psychic anime characters to see past the rose tinted blinders they've bolted into their own skull with a power tools.

>>52304051
>Buzzwords: the post
Are you incapable of speaking without saying things like Weaboo and Anime

>>52304051
They still cap at 5th level spell. They can't break campaign like Wizard

>>52304068
>>52304074
Have you guys tried playing Pathfinder or MAID RPG, they're much better games for what you Psionic fanboys actually want to play.

>>52304083
Using more buzzwords, I see
When you can make your argument without using any, I'll bother responding legitimately

>>52304068
>>52304074
Hate to agree with the guy, but he IS right about the RAW stuff. Mystic doesn't even look like it was proof-read before release. There's some stuff in there seriously breaks the game even at really low-levels.

This Ranger in my table wants to be a mercenary type character and is expected his party members to pay for his services.

Half the party is okay, the other doesn't and this one guy is like "whatever."

What do you think of this? I find it rather pointless cause as he's joining them, they're gonna be splitting treasure anyway when they dungeon crawl and get quest rewards for slapping shit for townies.

>>52304106
>This Ranger in my table wants to be a mercenary type character and is expected his party members to pay for his services.

He gets paid by his share of treasure. Them's the breaks.

Same rules as if someone is asking to get paid for healing.

>>52304105
Yeah, it's not balanced very well (especially with some things like a focus that benefits only a single talent, or an aoe attack that annihilates everything in front of you) and some shit is worded pretty terribly to boot

I just hate people who think buzzwords make an argument better
They're pretty much faggots who just want to start le internet fights instead of actually convince people of their stance

>>52304051
Cry as much as you want doesn't change the fact the mystic and psionics will be players options sooner rather then later.

>>52303871
Nice post

>>52304124
This also psionics have always been part of dnd.

>>52304136
people have a similar opinions they must be the same person.

>>52304136
>inb4 proof of me being wrong

>>52304124
I like the mystic, but I think it should be more restricted to its order.

>>52304136
What the fuck are you blathering about? You do realize you sound like you're autistically screeching.

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>>52304136
>Trying this hard to start le internet fight with poor quality bait
This is pretty sad, you know

>>52304166
Why are you still screeching. Stay mad, autist.

>>52304149
Mystic is trying to be every class in the game "BUT WITH PSYCHIC POWERS", and that's bad class design. Even as someone who likes the alot of the ideas of Mystics, trying to make mystics into EVERYTHING was a bad idea.

>>52304190
My problem is not knowing how to restrict it more without making it worthless.
At least my players aren't the like to break shit with no reason. Unless it's cool

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>>52303918
damn spelling errors

>>52304203
Honestly the main fixes the class needs is more focus (limit disciplines by class instead of letting every class take every discipline) and do some bug-fixing on the obviously broken powers like infinite-duration darkness.

Also, for the two children, I'm not sure who's baiting anymore, but be the bigger man and stop replying to it. Both of you.

To move on from the shitposter:
Tell us what your party is composed of, Anons. And what module it's in, if you're running one.

>>52304230
You mean orders?
Yeah. Also hoping they fix that monkey lunge tier wording.

>>52304234
Artificer and Bard, Phandelver inserted into a hombrew setting.

>>52304251
Just three people? Two players and the DM?
That sounds kind of dull, anon

>>52304230
I like the wide scope, and wouldn't mind having a sort of "superclass" for every power source. I feel like 5e is very well fit for such type of classes.

I wanted to alter the Curse of Strahd: Death House backstory. Is this better, worse or the same?
In the original, the father had a stillborn, bastard son (presumably with the nursemaid), and later Strahd killed them all for unrelated reasons. I want to change it so the baby survives birth, and the mother had the child sacrificed to the cult to punish the father's infidelity. The resulting infighting between the two cult leaders detroyed the cult, and the baby's spirit winds up haunting the house.

>>52304230
Reduce number of order they can take as they level up, limit what they can take depending on their chosen order, fix a few buggy powers there problem solved.

>>52304151
"like"?

>>52304278
Considerably better than "strahd came and they died"

>>52303918
It seems a bit overpowered, but I really like the ideas here.

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Before the string of posts got nuked (Thanks either mods or the posters who realized to delete their own mess), someone mentioned that Psionics essentially have infinite Subtle Spell because Psionic abilities don't require verbal, somatic, or material components.

How do people feel about this? Is it overpowered to have a caster who can essentially do things just by thinking about them and can't be countered spell'd because their disciplines aren't really spells?

Whybis barbarian bad?

Why dont we get UAs for martials?

Why no superiority dice for all yet?

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>>52304263
...Yeah.
But I like my dudes, and they are fun to play with.
Maybe we'll get another player when we all manage to get a fixed schedule.

>>52303918
What if you could learn more techniques by hosting tournaments or participating in tournaments? Or maybe, if a Street Fighter meets another Street Fighter, they will learn each other's techniques. Fuck, this could be really fun with making all sorts of crazy techniques.

>>52304294
Maybe there can be a feeling that sensitive people can get when a psychic power is used. Could just be a ability check, but other psychic creatures know automatically, and might have counters.

>>52304294
I'm not deleting my posts I just going to ignore the neck beard screeching about weeboos.

>>52304294
I think that certain psionics should certainly have visible or audible components to them. And some of the things actually do require movement, such as bestial claws since you have to be able to move to make the attack.
Extrapolation of the components required is pretty easy, but it would be nice if they actually listed them.

That being said, psionics get shut down pretty hard by things like golems and other constructs. Also certain undead.

Counterpsionic discipline would be cool to have.

>>52304318
For fucks sake, just stop, There was no reason to say that other than to provoke the guy into coming back. Fuck.

>>52304325
We could make a Mindbreaker order.
Things to stack INT penalties, break concentration and shut down enemy psionics.

>>52300881
nigger you know there's a difference between
>gather the archwizards and cast the spell of sealing to block the dread lord's power, shatter the crystal of daesmaar to destroy his magic shield, and plunge him into the fiery pit of mount tartarak
and
>chug four pearls of power while an artificer shoves haste and longstrider up your butt so you can out-kite the dread lord and spam magic missile as a nuclear druid, and if he ever casts shield, you dispel him with your invisible familiar somehow

Anons? Long story short; would the Phoenix Soul Sorcerer work for a character fluffed as having the ability to call upon the Flame of Life? You know, a Dark Souls Pyromancer sort of character?

>>52304351
Theres a flame sorcerer archetype you know
It was in one of the MTG suppliments

>>52304351
If you're not playing a videogame-specific setting, don't try to shove a videogame character/mechanics into it. It's as bad as the people that try to make anime characters unironically and then get bored of their own gimmicks half a session later when everyone just groans instead of finding "LEL SO FUNNEH AND ORIGINUL"

>>52304351
I don't see why not, but search Planeshift and Dragon+ first.

>>52304295
>Why dont we get UAs for martials?
Cause wizards hate martials

>>52304378
I summon the spurdo.

>>52304374
There's a difference between being anime and being an anime, dig?

>>52304345
>uhm lile guuuuuys!!!! Stop trying to kill my eeennbpeeeeceeeei. U hafta let my ebin npc doooo eeeet!! stahp runing my epic storg guisss
Vs
>play the game and best the dmpc fair and square

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>>52304392
>braneshids in :D :D :D

>>52304370
>>52304377
I'm well aware of the Pyromancer archetype from Planeshift: Kaladesh. I was just wondering if the Phoenix Soul's defensive/healing aura mightn't be more appropriate to the whole "Flames of Life" theme/power source.

>>52304405
Thanks.

>>52304400
This is part of a discussion about whether homemade stat blocks are better than the official stuff WotC puts out that can be chumped by three Warlocks on separate hills playing repulsion keep-away at level 5.
>here's the official stats for Asmodeus, a fiendish being so powerful he cucked all the Gods
>he'd die to 12 bulettes

>>52304423
Name TEN creatures that would survive TWELVE (((12))) bullets from the antimatter rifle statted in the dmg

>>52304423
How many kobolds does it take to kill Tiamat? The answer may surprise you!
it's less than 100

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>>52304433
>???

>>52304234
Ranger, barbarian, sorcerer, and cleric. Currently in the death house one shot for Curse of Strahd.

>>52304438
How?

They'd run away from the aura, to say nothing of dying in droves to her breath weapons.

>>52304405
This is true anc thst saddens me.

>play barbarian
All you can do is... fullattack, rage if bigguy and reckless if you are not swamped.
>high decision making class
>could have been great with superiority dice but muh neckbeards

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So does the 5e discord still exist, or did that stop being a thing?

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>>52304304
sure, but it has to depend on the GM

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>>52304445
Let's assume a bulette weighs a single metric ton. It's probably a lot more, but I want to keep this calculation simple.

One gram of antimatter-matter annihilation produces an explosion equivalent to ~43 kilotons of TNT.

An antimatter bulette diving into the ground and self-annihilating would create an explosion one million times more powerful.

That's 43,000 megatons, or a little more than 750 Tsar Bombas (or three million Little Boys). You could kiss the entire continent goodbye.

>>52304471
It's there, but we generally don't approve of constantly bringing it up.

>>52304493
I'd ask why, but I'd probably just be digging the hole deeper, so don't answer that, thanks.

>>52304502
Some people complained seeing it near or in the OP, basically. There's not actually anything particularly wrong with it generally.

>>52304516
>some people
tripfags no doubt

>>52304521
I didn't notice any tendency one way or another.

>>52304438
It would take a Kobold Dragon-Hunting Party

>>52304521
You might have missed that week where every thread was being shit up by Original Discord Fags and New Discord Fags waging their autistic battle for "supremacy" amidst everyone's discussion.
>hurr join our discord, the other guys are fags, they banned me
>hurr join ours, we've got yiff
Generals already get cancerous enough when everyone's anonymous, and you want to bring permanent names, voices, and a chat log that never goes away into this? Like, shit, son, you're calling tripfags terrible but all Discord could ever be is a collection of tripfags. They have names! THEY HAVE AVATARS!

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>>52304543
Man, I walked into that one.

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>>52304544
Unpopular opinion, I actually find those things help cut down on the amount of people who act like rampaging retards because they're in a consequence-free environment.

>>52304474
hm... So with the standard point buy,
15,14,13,12,10,8,
+ mountain dwarf race,i can get

17 Str, 15 Con, 14 Dex, 10 Wis, 8 Int 12 Cha

At level 1 with no armor thats
8+2 = 10 HP,
Fists x2 : d4+3+2, d4+3
AC = 10+2+2 = 14

seems pretty ok, and I like that u can choose to wear light armor too for early game by sacrificing street wise. Looks like something you'd want to dual class into sorceror and combine with touch attacks using Dirty Fighter.

>>52304564
>he says, posting without a trip

>>52304564
There are consequences though, mainly in the form of.

>"I got banned from the Discord, I'm gonna spam my NEW and BETTER discord on every 5e topic now! I'm gonna be OP ever time there's a new 5e topic and pretend my discord is the REAL one!"

>>52304591
>the REAL one
typical tripfagging "claiming" shit. Identity is cancer

>>52304051
>fill any niche in the game with like 2 disciplines and still have like 8 to spare.
Can't replace any of the other full casters late game in anything but combat control. it's nova and AoE also fall off late game.
>Lets not even talk about how they basically have Subtle Casting all the time
Fair enough, I probably would implement the manifestation display rules from 3.5
>some of their powers are outright broken RAW
Most of their powers are badly written and if you were expecting WotC to suddenly become competent in proofreading on a playtest document you're sadly mistaken.

I mean, these are the people that told me in OotA to take an Octopus, remove it's ability to survive outside of the ocean for any period of time, and put it in the underdark with an ink cloud ability it can't even use. Proofreading is not their forte.

>>52304585
Actually, if that could also apply to the unarmed strike with the Street Techniques, this would be really interesting to dual class with.

>>52304598
I still disagree, identity works fine at cutting down the shit if a community is exclusively identity-based. The discords problem was that it was trying to get along with 4chan where nobody has an identity, so banning retards from the actual discord for throwing a shitshow there didn't stop them from coming here to throw a shitshow.

But I suppose this is dangerously close to the kind of talk everyone got sick of already, so I'll leave things here and agree to disagree.

>>52304635
>identity works fine at cutting down the shit if a community is exclusively identity-based.
Like reddit, neogaf, gaia, imgur etc.? No.

>>52304645
>gaia
Isn't that an MMO or something?

>>52304438
A fully prepared army. I do scaling so that low CR enemies can still be used against the party but you can't luck your way around a high CR one. If you can't naturally hit the dude on less than a crit then you only deal normal damage on the attack and too big a difference between the monster CR and party level then I add a fear aura.

>>52304685
Mummies really shouldn't be CR 3, gaze -> paralyze -> multiple attacks -> crit is instant death.

>>52304516
Familiarity breeds conflict, and it was leaking into the thread too often, to the irritation of everyone who doesn't use it.

>>52304564
So why be here?

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>>52304714
I'm in both, and less active in this one, so make of that what you will.

>>52304714
>turn of trip
>pretend to be just another anon
versimillitude predistigiation

>>52303720
>/5eg/ Discord server, why does this link get removed all the time
Eat shit and die.

>>52304700
Oh yes, remove 1/2 the benefit of Destroy Undead CR3

>>52304700
they're not too bad, just need to coordinate with your team so it's not just one person getting murdered the entire time.

>>52304756
this happens all the time tho

>>52304735
No, i mean you have forums out the ass and reddit which both use the system you prefer, so why be here?
The only thing i can think of is preference of community, but this community only exists due to anonymity.

>>52304772
Honestly, it's because this community simply moves faster, topic-wise, and ends up being better for inspiration alot of the time.

When is Tales from the Yawning Portal actually coming out?

>>52304772
reddit is cancer tho, as is any named community on the internet because people are self-deluded into thinking their shit matters more than others when its on the internet. unfortunately this sort of thought is becoming the norm and now u have ecelebs and cancer everywhere

>>52304700
Yetis do this too. CR 3. Same vulnerability to fire. Not undead.

tg I love you but you're always at your worst when I come in to find your beautiful thread all shat up to pieces with this Discord/ leddit/ whatever nonsense bullshit

OK so maybe the guy bringing up discord had reason to be wary.

>>52304685
>Add a fear aura
Babysitting your PCs to run automatically from bad things considering the DC of a lot of auras.
Kinda makes sense. Though some high CR enemies are not so obviously frightening. Though, then again, a god in a human form should still have power leak out, sensibly, so all but the sneakiest of things should exude an aura of power.

Fear seems a bit silly after you've fought the creature far too many times though.

>>52304823
amazon says april 4th. Is it just a collection of old adventures adapted for 5th ed?

>>52304916
>Fear seems a bit silly after you've fought the creature far too many times though.
Obviously, the DC is reduced every time they fight it or if they have information on it relevant to combat. Especially weaknesses.

>>52304981
Yeah, that's a thing that should be done.

Still, it can result in situations such as the players coming up with some grand plan to escape the creature and then being unable to do anything but fight it because of fear.

Pretty niche cases, but generally fear takes options away from the players which can actually potentially force players to have to fight something instead of running.

For example, if players are in a corner, they can't willingly move out of that corner and must awaittheir death.
If players have a plan to blind or stun with an attack to cover their getaway, they have disadvantage to hit in the first place.


So I'd call it babysitting. You're just telling the players 'You MUST run' and taking away power from them rather than saying 'You should run' or even just going to the full extent to describe just how horrifying this monster is. You should hopefully have taught players how to identify encounters that they're really fucked on (Knowledge checks, the fact they KNOW they aren't prepared for it, the monster killing something they know they could only barely beat themselves or the skeletons of said creatures, a demonstration of its power against the players perhaps before the creature gets free (The creature is chained but hits a player for a lot of damage but can't just chase down all the players then eat them then breaks free), and so forth.

If you're throwing CR creatures way above the party in, you should do it right, not 'Okay, now you run.'

>>52303812
>Dray
this guy again

>>52305070
>they can't willingly move out of that corner and must awaittheir death
Who would rule that? On a supernatural aura of fear like dragons then maybe but if just naturally scared and you have zero ability to get away then you turn around and fight like a normal person. This exists so that solo monsters can do a thing.

>>52304739
suck my dick, faggot

you both can blow me

How would you stat a monster with class levels in 5e?

>>52305190
So, I'm running CoS aaaaaaaaaaaand
My players invited Strahd for dinner


Welp. Anyone's got wacky Curse of Strahd stories please?

>>52305287
depends on how challenging they're meant to be.

>>52305287
Just borrow a few features, don't give levels to npcs

>>52305289
>Curse of Strahd
>Wacky
Would you kindly neck yourself

>>52305287
This >>52305306 unless it's the, wait for it, BBEG

>>52305327
Not even then, you can give him lots of goodies but you need a different design process.

>>52305287
Level 20 NPCs as in Volos and ToB, not accounting for the power of spells, are CR 12. If you give the dude wish or meteors instead of something like timestop then that bumps it up as well.

>>52305332
You can do it either way, if you want an incredibly dangerous but ultimately weaker BBEG, you go with stat them out as a PC, if you want more endurance more versatility and a possibly less dangerous directly you go with monster stats.

>>52303947
mystic seems absurd, but I've never played a druid before, what makes them so bad?

>>52305374
Even if you can give him a full pc setup without breaking anything, you still want to look at legendary resistance or the like, even if you don't want to give him anything more interesting. The big bad always has special considerations.

>>52305317

>Curse of Strahd
>Page blah blah
>Humor
>Not everything is constantly dreary and bleak in Barovia. Relentless gloom may even work against you as constant darkness and oppression may result in desensitization or apathy to the world around you.
>Don't be afraid to occasionally add humor or lightness to your story. Have a villain trip and fumble down the stairs on a rolled 1, and so on and so forth

Anon, I'm so sorry you don't know how to DM

>>52305415
I consider that to be what fudging the dice is for, but if somebody complained that he wouldn't be able to do that, pointing to a stat sheet would be useful.

>>52304278
It would add layer's to the story but if I remember it right, Strahd was the one who destroyed the Cult. I do like the idea of the sacrificed baby being the force that is haunting the house.

>>52305287
What monster and what class?

>>52305287
I think OoTA has NPCs with Player levels. Check that out and look at it like that.

>>52304739
Did some drama happen?

>>52305502
Short answer - yes, and that's the reason nobody adds the discord link anymore.

>>52305289
I played death house twice, the second time we had to restart because most of our players left. When we got to the specter she wrecked our shit both times and killed at least one character.
Now I'm running death house with a group of new players and they killed her in one round. Also if anyone has any advice on how and when to first introduce Strahd to the party, I'd love to hear it.

>>52304544
Ah, yes, that bullshit.
The discord in this OP is admin'd by 5egmegaanon, not by the other dude who started shit

>>52305509
I gave a lot of advice on CoS in a recent thread, I'll just copypaste it from there.
>Use Strahd. Use him in unexpected, unconventional ways. Strahd visits the party in disguise and gives them a quest! Does it lead into a trap? Maybe, but maybe it's legitimate. Why would Strahd give the party a quest? Maybe he needs them to venture outside of Barovia, so they'll bring something to him - maybe something he wants to use for an escape. The party doesn't need to know they've left his domain, by the way.
>Or maybe he offers them an advice - seek out a wise old mentor, a vampire hunter van Richten, as only he knows Strahd's weakness. Then he spies on the party - they'll lead him to the hunter for sure.

>>52305509

Depends on what type of Strahd you're running, and what are his goals on top of the ones the book suggests.

Personally, I'm a fan of the whole Shapeshifter abuse idea.

>>52305287
Read the rules for it in the DMG.

Dice set
Dragonchess
Playing card set
Three-Dragon Ante

Which one would an elf wizard most likely play? Dragonchess?

>>52305614
Depends on the wizard, but the stereotypical one would play dragonchess.

Playing a druid, having trouble thinking of a original backstory ideas please?

>>52305614
I would assume, Chess is the stuck up smart people table game.

>>52305640
Got a race or archetype in mind?

>>52305640

There is a darkness in the grove you protect and you are adventuring to destroy it.

There are unatural things happening outside of your home and you want to set them right.

The world has not learned the balance of nature and I seek to restore it.

Just put some faggot treehugger shit and it'll work fine.

>>52305640
At all costs, avoid "muh woods" stereotype. Instead, try something like... Star Wars.
>A nobleman's family was killed, but he managed to run into the woods. There, he was saved by an old druid.
>That druid was really old, and he felt death creeping close to him - so he needed to teach his craft to someone else, fast.
>So as payment for saving him and sheltering him, the noble had to learn the Craft, something he never really wanted.
>Now, the old master is dead, and the noble is free. But those years changed him.
>He can't go back home, to his family and comfortable life, because there is no home anymore.
>But he also never wanted to stay in the woods his entire life and listen to squirrels complain about winters getting colder either.
>Now what?

>>52305640
You are trying to get to the biannual druid convention but everyone keeps giving you the wrong directions

>>52305674
I'm thinking circle of land - forest or that Circle of Twilight

>>52305772
Made me kek

>>52305772
kek

>>52305829
Which circle of land

>>52305640
Chaotic Druid of the tundra. You're a frost-bitten hermit who may act a bit wendigo like.
Nature isn't about warmth, it's not about helping others. It's about hunger.

>>52305640
You are traveling the world in pursuit of the legendary Phantasmal Pipeweed, the dankest of all weed strains.

Should I bother shooting Light Crossbow as a Lore Bard?

>>52305849
forest

>>52305878
You're a renegade drow. You ended up in a spider filled woodland, and it reminded you of home.

>>52305871
if you have nothing better to do, sure.

>>52304234
Bard, Mystic, Cleric, and Blood Hunter

>>52304234
Dwarf Fighter, "we still dont know what race" Druid, Human Fighter, Rogue (dont remember which race is him but I suppose he is human), Tiefling Bard (but no one knows I am Tiefling). We are doing SKT

>>52305878
Lived on the edge of the forest in a village all your life. Only woman to ever catch your eye happens to be a nymph/dryad, so you thought becoming a druid might help your chances and you're traveling the world to practice your craft.

>>52305407
Druids are fine. Moon Druids have an insane power spike at level 2, where no other class is able to compete with them, but it levels off as soon as everyone hits level 3. The only other complaints that people could have is their capstone is one of the better ones and Nuclear Druid.

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Why isn't it just this? Isn't it simpler?

Arcane Deflection
At 2nd level, you have learned to weave your magic to fortify yourself against harm. When you are hit by an attack, or fail a Constitution saving throw, you can use your reaction to impose disadvantage on the attack roll, or gain advantage on the saving throw.
When you use this feature, you can't cast spells other than cantrips until the end of your next turn.

>>52306080
Because they couldn't resist adding flat bonuses.

>>52305858
Oh please I invited a younger guy from my uni who choose to play Eldritch Knight. Only used disguise self, summon familiar and fireball.

Constantly made references to tacos and dank kush. We kicked him out after kept calling the group idiots in comparison cause he was studying geology at uni. When we discussed plans and approaches for a situation before moving forward.

>>52306086
>Because they couldn't resist adding flat bonuses.
That seems to complicate things for no reason

>>52304234
The one I'm playing is OoTA and we have:

2 Druids (One Firbolg and the other Half-Elf), A Dwarf Palading, a Human Wizard, A Human Rogue, and a Cleric (I forgot his race).

In the one I DM we are in CoS:

A Lizardfolk Druid (that's getting on my nerves), Teifling Arcane Trickster, A Human Paladin, A Human WereRaven Bard, 2 Rangers (Dragonborn and Elf), And the last player had a Teifling Wizard but she died so now He's playing a War Cleric Aasimar.

>>52305640
Campaign premise?
Or is it AL?

So,

>BBEG appears far from the battlefield
>monk decides to catch up to him
>uses 10th level movement and mobile and reaches him
>tries to stunfist
>?
>BBEG is surrounded by anti-magic field
>no ki based ability works (because it's magic)
>BBEG hits monk with a poisoned knife
>monk fails saving throw
>monk dies because inside anti-magic field his ki based immunity to poisons doesn't apply

Should the monk retain his poison immunity inside the anti-magic field?

>>52306106
>his entire party isnt composed of wizards
sounds like one of those normie games I keep hearing about, what are they like?

>>52306146
is this a rock falls on you DM fiat? Because that's what it sounds like, jesus christ. Is being resistant to gluten somehow magical now?

>>52306146
>>no ki based ability works (because it's magic)
I didn't realize this was a thing, is that RAW?

if so then technically yes, the monk's poison immunity should be negated as well.

>>52306146
Stop.

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>>52306164
No the DM has been very reasonable.

>>52306174
pic related

>>52306089
>geology
Poor little dumb soul.
As useful as gender studies

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>>52306146
>Ki doesn't work in anti-magic field

>>52306146

I wouldn't rule it like that, but RAW it's completely valid.

>>52306237
Hmm... How would you rule it?

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What are some magic items you would like to see from WotC?

I for one want to see the Nether Scrolls.

>>52306208
>the element that flows through living bodies and makes up the universe
So if you just outright equate all magic wouldn't that pretty much unravel the universe as soon as someone would activate the field?

>>52306208
by that logic any living creature inside an anti-magic field immediately dies because there is no life force there.

>>52306164
>Is being resistant to gluten somehow magical now?
No, which is why antimagic fields don't turn off gluten tolerance. Ki is magic, though.

>>52306080

Because too many circumstances already provide advantage/disadvantage. The feature would overlay with Blur, sneak attacks, being prone, and Inspiration.

>>52306265
Ki is an element of magic that flows through living bodies. It does not sustain them, it just flows through them. Nothing in PH states that ki is a vital element to be alive.

>>52306290
but what if your monk was allergic to gluten originally and because of KI now is resitant to it? Do you think this resistance has to be sustained by magic or did his body change physically, i.e. his digestive system was fixed permanently by the ki? Where's the RAW on that

>Be mystic instead of monk
>Better than monk in every way
>DM tries to pull antimagic on me to gimp me
>I power through it because psionics, lad

Fun fact though, psionics has sometimes been referred to as Ki, in addition to the invisible art and mind magic
but it's still not magic, and ki might actually be psionics :^)

An individual with truesight is at a gathering incognito. It is the party's job to identify this individual. What do you do?

>>52306313
So does ki flow through non-living bodies?

>>52306324
Hard Mode: There are also individuals at the party with see invisible that you don't want to falsely accuse.

>>52306324
Create an illusion of a party member, talk with it like it's him. Carefully look at the attendees - the one who looks momentarily confused is your guy.

>>52306324
Wear a shirt with "IF YOU'RE READING THIS YOU'RE A FAG" on it, then cover the writing with an illusion. Then just keep an eye out for anyone staring at my shirt.

>>52306248
Stunning strike doesn't work, but Purity of Body does.

According to the text, "mastery of the ki" makes you immune, not the ki itself. Tricky, I know.

Furthermore, if Purity of Body doesn't work, well, by entering the Anti-magic Field the monk should also be drained of all their current ki.

>>52306248
>>52306396
BTFO literally

>>52303720
>How often do you dragon?

Full-fledged Dragon, not often, though they're being set up as the final antagonists of my current campaign.

The setting we're playing in does Dragons a little differently. All dragons start off as Wyverns which are like standard D&D dragons in terms of strength but are bestial in intelligence and have no breath weapon. Then these Wyverns can be possessed by spirits from the Elemental planes and that makes a Dragon. So far our party has only faced a Wyvern, no real Dragons.

There is a foreign empire called Teiidae which is ruled by a counsel of Ancient Dragons that has been teased several times but never directly involved in the main quest. Players just hit level 10 though and after they finish their current arc the narrative focus is going to shift to the Dragons who will become the primary antagonists.

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>>52306330
According to the PH, no.

>>52306320
I have news for you: psionics is magic (pic from UA Mystic v3). So, anti-magic field works against psionics. Dispel magic should work too but there are no rules for it yet.

>>52306324
Extra Challenge Mode: The gathering is the Mage's Guild Festival of Illusion, with attendees investigating everything.

>>52306430
Psionics is, and always has been, immune to antimagic
Sorry laddy

>>52306396
>According to the text, "mastery of the ki" makes you immune, not the ki itself. Tricky, I know.

I could accept that.

>Furthermore, if Purity of Body doesn't work, well, by entering the Anti-magic Field the monk should also be drained of all their current ki.

No. Anti-magic suppresses magic for it's duration. It does not extinguish it permanently. Read the spell description.

>>52306434
Create a gigantic illusory flame near the ceiling. Those who look up and begin squinting very hard don't have the true sight. The one who does also looks up and starts squinting, but he does so the last.

>>52306454
>Psionics is, and always has been, immune to antimagic
That's not what the UA says.

>>52306454
New edition new rules.

>>52306249
WotC gave us wand of Orcus
I want Asmodeus's sword called Punishment

>>52306454
In prior editions, psionics weren't magic at all. They were the power of the mind. From now on, it's magic. Read the UA.

>>52306489
Good to know that the unofficial material is wrong, then
Other editions have already established that psionic effects are immune to dispel magic

>>52306506
>>52306502
UA is not official material, dipshits
Nothing about it is finalized or set in stone

>>52306507
This isn't the older edition, you grognard.

>>52306530
>>52306507
But the current mystic is susceptible to anti-magic field. That's all that matters and there isn't anything yet to suggest that will be changed.

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>>52306530
>It-t-t-t-t w-w-w-w-will be c-c-c-c-changed, guys!

>>52306530
>yet

I understand why they made psionics magical. It's easier to have a unified magical system than having different kinds of "magic". Personally, i prefer psionics as the power of the mind and not as magic. However, WotC have other plans...

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What is the best spell on earth and why is it Bigby's Hand? Wew the fun I've had with this spell. It's already strong but Empowered Evocation makes it hit even harder. You can also give a handjob to a giant to calm it down.

>>52306430
So, let me make a logical argument here.

If KI only flows through living bodies, and does not flow through non-living bodies, then since a body is either living or non-living, and not both, there is either KI flowing in a body or there isn't.

Because this relationship is now one to one, that means it is invertible. It then follows that given a body, I can decide whether or not KI flows through it by the property of it being living or not.

Hence if the anti-magic field destroys the flow of KI, then no living body can be inside the anti-magic field since only living bodies have KI flowing through them. So your BBEG and the Monk are both dead. This is absurd, thus by reductio ad absurdum I refute that the Monk died because the BBEG died the moment he cast anti-magic field on himself.

>>52306543
>>52306545
>>52306557
It's clear that the mechanics and lore of the Mystic are not finalized.
In the previous version of the Mystic, psionics were developed thanks to the influence of the Far Realm. It also had this quip:
"Psionics and magic are two distinct forces. In general, an effect that affects a spell has no effect on a psionic effect. There is one important exception to this rule. A psionic effect that reproduces a spell is treated as magic."

In short, don't treat UA as finished products. Especially when it comes to the """""lore""""" in them.

Canonically, in the goddamn dnd settings, psionics isn't affected by antimagic.

>>52306588
>unoccupied space
wew you have to cast bigby's hand in true vacuum?

>>52306607
This is like saying snake will be in smash 4 because he was in Brawl.

And if the flavor for psionics has changed that's a perfect excuse for the mechanics to change as well.

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>>52306607
Out with the old, in with the new, anon.

>>52306588
You can also Overchannel it once when you cast it, but it will do the bonus damage from Overchannel each time you attack with it as a bonus action. So Overchannel, smack a bitch with high damage, next round, smack a bitch with high damage, throw a fireball.

>>52306625
If the flavor for psionics has changed so drastically, than it's not actually psionics, is it?
It's something else, conveniently mislabeled as psionics.

>>52306599
You made the most common error friendo.
Correlation does not imply causation.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation

>Correlation does not imply causation is the logically valid idea that events which coincide with each other are not necessarily caused by each other.

Anyone know of a classical castle delve that's NOT Ravenloft?

>>52306638
This is perhaps the stupidest thing you could have possibly said. I'm impressed.

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>>52306638
Stop moving goalposts.

>>52306638
Good point. Right now psionicists are wizards that don't use components for spellcasting.

At mystic v2, psionics came from the far realm.

Maybe at mystic v4, psionics will not be magic.

>>52306642
I don't think you what that means, chump. The events do not need to "cause one another", a meaningless physical description of the world, their relationship is simply one to one, you cannot have one without the other.

>>52306669
>>52306670
Either you guys are supremely retarded, or just faggots trying to bait me.

Either way, fuck off hekanon, you're an autist.

>>52306699
You are literally trying to convince me that the mystic is not a psionic class.

You could not be a stupider person.

>>52306699
>Implying you're not the one baiting here
>Implying it's one person hekatonposting
Your next line is "I was only pretending to be retarded".

>>52306696
Simply because magic flows through living bodies, it does not mean that it makes them alive. Maybe magic likes flowing through living bodies. WHO KNOWS, IT'S MAGIC! But there is no rule that says: no magic, no life. If that was true a dispel magic or an anti-magic field could kill you with no saving throw!

>>52306699
Wow, anon, you're a huge moron.

>>52306638
It all depends on what you mean by magic and psionics.

>>52306699
Dude, seriously. I understand that's how the lore was written, but companies do change that. You realize that right. I'm not trying to bait you it's just that it seriously looks like you're unable to comprehend that they'd change it to another way to do magic. Hell, you're aware that one of the warlock pacts based on the far realm lets is use telepathy freely, right?

>>52306720
Supremely retarded it is, anon.
Try rereading everything that was already presented, because it's clear that you either didn't understand it or didn't actually read the shit that's been said.

Magic =/= Psionics in-universe. In CANON. In several printed editions. Antipsionics do not affect magic, antimagic does not affect psionics.

>>52306731
No but if KI only flows through living bodies, and never flows through non-living bodies, then a body without KI is by definition non-living. Its exactly to show the absurdity of anti-magic killing KI.

>>52306472
Why would the truesighter squint last? True sight lets you detect illusions, not automatically see through them.

>>52306779
Welcome to 5e, we do things differently now.

>>52305640
Your only goal is to reach the top of the foodchain. You are nature, red in tooth and claw.

>>52306736
According to mystic v3, psionics is the mental only manipulation of magic. Wizards use magic through study and V,S,M componets. Right now, everything is magic. Mechanically, psionics use spell points while wizards use spell slots. That's a wrap!

>>52306796
The UA isn't even fucking official material, anon.
My point has MUCH more basis than yours.

Headcanon coming through:

>Wizards cast magic by using their intellect to recite the spells engraved on the Nether Scrolls, which manipulates the Weave and causes an effect.
>Sorcerers do something similar but they do it by instinct.
>Psions use the power of the mind to manipulate the Weave directly.
>Bards ummmm haven't figured that out yet.
>Clerics are granted their power by the gods.

>>52306810
In that case, anti-magic field really doesn't affect psionics, but only because psionics doesn't exist.
Your move.

>>52306826
Psionics still exist in-universe, dumbass.

>>52306810
>My point has MUCH more basis than yours.
...how?

>>52306810
Seriously, can you answer the questions up here
>>52306774


It may not seem like it to you, but to the growing crowd responding to you, you're the one looking autistic because you're getting angry that people are telling you that a company changes its lore.

When you said it's not psionics you went full retard, because that's not your decision to make. If they make it magic then it's magic, you have no input and any reasoning you do is invalid because you're ignoring the fact that they can change how things work at any given time.

>>52306779
We've been over this. Old rules don't necessarily apply to new editions.
It has been directly stated that psionics is magic now, and you have no counterargument against that whatsoever.

>>52306832
Oh, so where do I look for the psionics rules then?

>>52306847
right here:
>opens bathrobe

>>52306823
>>Bards ummmm haven't figured that out yet.
You and me both anon.

>DIscovering the magic hidden in music requires hard study and some measure of natural talent.

PH bard under Learning from experience.

WTF does that even mean? Is it a wizard or a sorc?

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>>52306863
Stop posting on 4chan while underage.

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>>52306863
Cease. And. Fucking. Desist.

>>52306879
>>52306883
Hivemind.

>>52306784
>>52306731
>>52306696
>>52306642
>>52306599
btfo

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>>52306883
>>52306879
suck my ass avatar poster

>>52306883
>>52306879
So I guess there is more than one Hekatonposter.

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>>52306836
How is this not glaringly obvious yet? Read the fucking thread again, anon.
>>52306839
"You went full retard"
Only if you lack basic logic skills.
You can call a microwave a toaster, but in the end they're totally different, and you'd be wrong no matter how you look at it.
Psionics that don't function like actual psionics are clearly not psionics, even if you call it that.

>>52306879
>>52306883
Oh no, the autism is spreading
Hekanons are cancer

>>52306901
They decide what is a microwave and what is a toaster because it is there universe and they can change it how they want.

That's the thing, your logic is built on ignoring that. It can change whether or not you agree with the change. And if you try to reason things out by ignoring the basic concept, then you're not actually being reasonable. You're just trying to prove yourself right instead of understand what's going on.

>>52306919
I think he's had enough (You)s for one day.

I don't have a Hekaton pic, but still.
Stop getting baited.

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>>52306919
Writers can be wrong, you know.
There's this widely known thing called "plot holes" and "Inconsistencies". I don't know if you've ever HEARD of them, but pretty much everyone knows that they mean an author or setting developer has fucked up at some point and put in something that was incorrect, impossible, or stupid.

>>52306933
I've never met a nigga who doesn't know what a retcon is.

>>52306942
I mean there's two right above you if you actually want one.

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>>52306879

>>52306944
Guess what, you nigger, psionics is not the only thing that works differently now. How about magic? In 3.5, 4e and 5e it all operates on vastly different rules. Really inconsistent!

>>52306942
>Actually wanting to become a hekanon

>>52306901
Maybe one's a toaster oven and the other's a microwave oven (clerics are gas ovens). Neither will function in an anti-oven shell.

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>>52306418
>All dragons start off as Wyverns which are like standard D&D dragons in terms of strength but are bestial in intelligence and have no breath weapon. Then these Wyverns can be possessed by spirits from the Elemental planes and that makes a Dragon.

This is retarded.

If you trick a lich into an antimagic field does he just crumble

>>52306975
No, anon
It's not a toaster oven, simply a toaster
The kind with the slots that you stick the bread into, rather than the kind with the racks you set things on.

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>>52306944
Writers can do it intentionally, you know.
There's these widely known things called "retcons" and "rule changes". I don't know if you've ever HEARD of them, but pretty much everyone knows that they mean an author or rules designer has changed things at some point and put in something that was different from before.

>>52306995
t. Crawford

>>52306985
A lich is an undead creature. Undead are created by magic but not sustained from it. If that was not true, we would not need turn undead, we would just dispel them.

>>52307023
t. some fag on the internet getting mad about things he doesn't have control over

>>52306985
Only if the lich is also a monk

>>52307033
Say what you will, but Mystic 3 and its lore is still unofficial and non-canon
:^)

>>52307029
oh

>>52307045
>Newcrons are non-canon because I don't like them!

Why does lead consistently block out magic? Is it radiation?
Will exposure to magic eventually give you cancer?

>>52307067
Unearthed Arcana is publicly acknowledged to be an unofficial source, and nothing within it is to be considered canon.

>>52307074
The Order of the Stick made jokes about it back when the comic was funny, anon, which was, like, ten years ago.

>>52307078
>No paladin
Uh

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>>52307086
>yfw Mystic gets released, and it's still cucked by anti-magic field.

>>52307029
Are they created by magic?
I mean, always?
Aren't there divine liches?
Is divine magic able to be antimagic-ed?
I think the old Warcraft splat is messing with my head.
>>52307045
There are no psionics on 5e then.
>>52307078
Seeing more bard and less wizard than I thought.

>>52307105
When will artificer, mystic, and the revised ranger EVER be printed in an official source, anon?
The vast majority of unearthed arcanas will be stuck in limbo for eternity

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So here's the thing, a little improv here and PCs being unpredictable got me to an impulse-quest that I thought on the fly based on ideas I've had for the campaign. Here's what I got:

>2 quests
>seemingly unconnected at a glance
>Quest 1 - solve a cold case relating to the death of a politician's lover a year ago
>Quest 2 - said politician has reason to believe an assassination attempt is being made on the party (they're rather well known by now)
>Ultimately want to connect them as PCs uncover the story for both

Party suspects politician and it's good cause there's that part where I want them to realize he's not the culprit in all of this. Would make for good drama if they didn't figure it out soon. That said, I'm at a loss on how to connect both. Should I make the murderer of the lover be the assassin? That's the simplest route but I can't help but feel I can do something more with it. Was hoping for some ideas here.

Another goal is that these quests hint the super shadow org that's enveloping the entire city (and possibly the world.) They are the real culprits here but the players will be capturing scapegoats at the end without realizing it. I'm tempted to make the quests fully closed in story but at the same time leave a very glaring common loose end that bothers the party so when the shadow org fully reveals themselves later in the campaign, it'll be that "AHA!" moment for them when looking back. If they choose to pursue these ends, then figuring out the shadow org early will also be a nice thread for them to follow.

That's so far the rough outline I have for the upcoming adventure. My PCs are busy dicking around the city looking for clues and we ended at them questioning a potential suspect in the assassination attempt as they put the cold case on the side.

>>52307078
>so many bards

Ugh!

>>52307100
Whooops! Let's try that again.
http://www.strawpoll.me/12584834

>>52307105
Anti-Magic field is bullshit even in-universe. Why wouldn't it negate itself? Does it somehow exist outside the area it affects? What happens at the boundary?

>>52307145
>Why wouldn't it negate itself?
Somehow I didn't think about this before.

>>52307135
>Featured Poll: Which Mass Effect: Andromeda character would you like to romance?
Destroy strawpoll

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>>52307125
>Are they created by magic?
>I mean, always?

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>>52307170
>When everyone is shilling your game as hard as they can, even if it's obvious how shitty it is

>>52306977

checked

Honestly it's not a bad idea if you don't call them dragons. I like the image of there's a secret facility hidden in the mountains that forcefully binds elementals into wyverns to create some sort of monstrous counter to actual Dragons.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12584876

>>52306588

I have it as a Bard spell.

>Jack of all Trade applies

Life is good as a bard. Every player in town looks at this class like its shit on wheels, but I'm just all good all the time

>>52307179
>OR some unholy curse
Are curses not magical? Or, rather, are SOME curses nonmagical?

>>52307218
That is what I meant.

>>52307165
because it doesn't make sense, and when things don't make sense, the brain goes into survival mode and starts ignoring itself.

>>52307230
Yeah, I'm just curious now. Do you think that line was intentionally worded that way, so as to imply the existence of nonmagical curses?

>>52307218
A curse can come from a powerful being as well. Even from a god.

>>52307208
>Being THIS butthurt

>>52307258
Psionic curses when?
You have to admit, a mind-curse sounds pretty badass.

>>52307131
The party is being targeted for investigating the cold case, because the org killed her to get to the politician. They can either find out she was killed by some group but there isn't enough to pin it on one person, the politician is killed by the time they report back.

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>>52306454
>>52306507
>>52306779
Since we're referencing previous editions, let's take a look at 3.5e's Expanded Psionics Handbook. Page 55. You fucking retard.

>>52307272
They call those mental illnesses. Dumbass.

>>52307093
Have you considered that maybe your taste changed over the last ten years and it was actually always awful but when you read the old comics you used to like nostalgia blinds you from that truth?

Because order of the stick was never good.

>>52307289
Screencap the Psionics Is Different option described later in that chapter

Wall of thorns? Is it any good? If not what 6th level Druid spell should I use

>>52307309
No, because when I re-read older strips (before Roy's death), it's still funny.

>>52307328
Rose tinted goggles anon?

>>52307303
>kek

>>52307279
Tying it closer is, from best description, the politician and his lover died the exact same way.

>>52307165
Well here goes, what is the reason /tg/?
http://www.strawpoll.me/12584929

>>52307338
No, I mean, it actually has jokes in them, and it was actually a DnD comic with relatable situations. "WORDS" were Vaarsuvius' schtick, not the description of the comic as a whole.
Same thing happened to Darths and Droids much later - it started out funny, then, as it tried to tell it's own (boring) story, it turned to shit.

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>>52307352
>Not multiple choice
>No all-of-the-above option

>>52307391
>having either of those or both
wew this got meta fast

>>52307352
Redpill me on gygax and polearms?

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>>52307311
Sure, I'll humor you. Pages 65 and 66. Here's the whole thing, but really only the first paragraph is relevant. Especially that first sentence. Pay close attention.

>>52303816
>By the sea, Mr Strahd, that's the life I covet
>By the sea, Mr Strahd, oh I know you'd love it

>>52307352
>writers were too stupid to notice tied with all answers are non-canon and I'm a bitch
yes this just like /tg/

Why is this edition so fucking constipated?

Every feature is basically: "You may get a minor or token benefit for a very brief period of time After using this, you must wait an eternity before doing so again". Combine that with the recommended encounters/day, and it's like they want nearly every action in combat to be attacks/cantrips

I'm sorry wizards, but I don't want to spend 4 to 6 hours a week auto attacking creeps.

>>52307449
Well than go back to 3.pf than

>>52307449
did you see the Street Fighter class? it would have been the appropriate fix.

>>52307419
Thanks, I just wanted to see what it said anon, no need to be a nigga about it
The example spell/power variations are nifty

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>>52307449
That's why barbs and fighters exist. Pallys exist too, but they are more constipated.

>druids can only wildshape twice a day for the majority of their levels
This is fucking terrible. Anyone have a suggested fix scaling?

>>52307511
It scales with moon Druid have you even played one

>>52307511
>Buffing druid
Are you insane?

>>52307497
By my account, barbs, fighters, monks, moon druids, warlocks, paladins, rogues, and rangers are all constipated as fuck.

>>52307511
You can wildshape at will at all levels. Your wildshape HP is capped at your druid level.

>>52307540
You just removed the entire fucking point of moon Druid congratulations

>>52307511
Wildshape comes back on a short rest, could easily be used more than twice a day.

Also don't give moon druids even more health.

>>52307415
>Redpill me
kys yourself

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>>52307540
>Just say that to my face after using all your spell slots at the first serious encounter.

Does an antimagic field force a druid out of wildshape?

>>52307415
It's a 2e meme, don't bother yourself.