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What would a Russian-inspired fantasy setting be like?

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What would a Russian-inspired fantasy setting be like?
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>>52299260

cold
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>>52299260
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8RAKma4PXo

http://www.rusartnet.com/russian-artworks
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>>52299260
Your son has drunk himself to death, and your daughter has become a harlot so she can afford to move out of your shitty village.
Roll willpower save to resist the urge to commit suicide.
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>>52299389
>Drink vodka to improve willpower saves
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>Very top-heavy autocratic rulers
>Atrocities
>Archaic, quasi-noble Priesthood
>Localized saints and martyrs
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>>52299260
Everybody is a dwarf
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>>52299290
fpbp
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>Person leaves or dies, usually parent
>Big rule established: don't do/touch/say/look at X
>Person breaks the rule
>Villlain watches protagonists from the shadows or heroes watch villain in secret
>Spying person delivers information
>Villain tricks hero
>Hero is forced, tricked, or enchanted into doing something bad
>Villain does some diabolical shit which makes them unsympathetic like kidnapping a maiden or stealing the special object
>Heroes think of a plan
>Heroes mobilize
>Hero meets a mysterious figure who helps them in their quest after passing a morality/combat/cleverness test
>Hero travels
>Hero kicks asses
>Hero is marked somehow as the hero with a scar/mark/item
>Hero battles villain using his wits, abilities, and brawn
>Good guys help hero when he's down for the count (often people/animals he helped along the way)
>Heroes head home
>Villain goes "THIS ISN'T EVEN MY FINAL FOOOOORM!"
>Heroes are chased by transformed super-mode villain
>Heroes get rescued or escape by tossing shit behind them
>Hero goes home and nobody recognizes him
>Asshole pretends HE saved day
>Hero proves asshole is liar
>Hero is rewarded with clothes/a palace and looks baller as hell
>Liar and villain punished
>Hero marries heroine and everyone party
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>>52299260
There is a book called "Mythic Russia".

https://mythicrussia.wordpress.com/resources-for-play/

I dare say it has everything you need.
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>>52299628

This, Russian fairytales are very whimsical and hilarious when the Hero isn't an idiot.
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Lots of nature spirits, mounted warriors, and wily peasant girls
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>>52299658
Very true. Like Middle-Earth but written by snarky serfs.
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>>52299628

Sounds like a typical European fantasy story.
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>>52300254
It's called Russian formalism for a reason.
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>>52300254
Well duh

People who say they wanna do "Slavic" or "Germanic" settings are usually just wanting a nice new coat of paint over typical European fantasy. If I told you any given fairytale from Europe without names you'd never guess the country of origin.

European folklore is a very distinctive grouping.
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>>52299260
>>52299260
Fucking Awesome
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>>52299290
fpbp
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Like this.
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>>52299260
Lots of scrying for information that will hurt a rival kingdom's rightful heir so you can put a buffoon you control on the throne instead.
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>>52299290
Russia has extreme heat in summer, and rainy seasons too. It spans all sorts of climates.

Just look at Russian folklore and peasant culture. Base the setting in the Kievan Rus or somesuch ye olde Russia, make folklore and legends actually exist, and bam, you have a Russian inspired fantasy setting.
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>>52301676
don't upload copyrighted pdfs bruh
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Like this.
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>>52299260
Don't go in the forest, all the bad shit happens there.
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>>52302588
But anon, we live in the forest
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>>52300459
They published Frei in english? That's cool.

>>52302471
Please stop reposting this bullshit.
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>>52299538
>Be Russian
>Be a Czar
>Automatically a saint

>Send pigeons to burn down an entire village
>Still a saint

The Orthodox Church is almost as lenient as Vatican II
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I'm genuinely impressed and delighted nobody's mentioned Baba Yaga yet. You used to see that happening ALL the time and it always grated on me. No clearer sign someone is trying to pretend they know about Russian mythology even though all they did was read a comic about it or something. Good job, /tg/!
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>>52303266
>Send pigeons to burn down an entire village
>Still a saint

hey, you have to admit, that was metal.
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>>52299260
A buddy of mine is half Russian and made an entire D&D setting based on it.
It deals a lot with the struggle between svarog, the God that taught mankind agriculture and metalwork, and the serpent, who is the big satan demiurge
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>>52299628
diamond is unbreakable
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full of people who are terrified of butterflies
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>>52303341
Actually, diamonds are very brittle. They're very HARD, which means you can't, say, squish them into a different shape, but that very hardness also means relatively little pressure will make them shatter into pieces.
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>>52299538
Anon, you described every medieval kingdom ever.
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>>52303473
Is that High Elves?
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>>52302471
This meme needs to die.
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>>52303326
He got it all wrong. Svarog is pretty much Hephaestus, he has no business fighting Veles, the serpent god (pretty much Hermes). Perun (Zeus) is the one feuding with Veles. Also none of them are explicitly evil, that's a misconception introduced by the Christian monks, who deduced that anything associated with serpents must necessarily be evil. If you need an explicitly evil god, use Morana (genderswapped Hades), Chernobog (the black god, nuff said) or Karachun (god of frost, slavic OC donut steel).
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>>52303529
That's ancient Russians as imagined by some Russian newage crackpot
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>>52303620
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>>52299260
Just read classic Russian fairy tales.

Which are basically a heroic fantasy going in Kievan Rus.
Thus - fun as fuck
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>>52303533
Not sure what you're bothered by, friend. I'm Russian and can confirm that it's pretty spot-on.

A lot of the stuff that people frequently attribute to "Russian mythology" has been through a very heavy Soviet filter, which had been through a heavy Orthodox filter before that, so it's almost completely meaningless to ask for something "Russian-inspired" because you could be referring to any one of several periods where the prevailing mythos was drastically different.

Are you talking about the pre-Christian tribes? You're getting something very close to Norse but with that unconquerable Russian superstition.

Are you talking about Kievan Rus? That's a bit more unique, because you've got the Christian mythos dominating the old paganism, which is alive in some corners. The bogatyrs are typically seen here, but they'd be the ones fighting anything that smells pagan.

Are you talking about the 200 year period where Russia was dominated by the Mongols? Probably not, nobody really talks about that, but the meme image you seem to be so opposed to is basically set here.

Are you talking about the early Russian empire with the pivot towards the West with Peter and the rule of Catherine? Where Alexander liberated Europe? Again, probably not, since it's right before the Victorian Era which is where we get the steampunks and wanton colonialism, so this isn't the period of history that's interesting enough to get fantasy out of. Seems like a neglected niche, to be honest.

You're probably not talking about the slow decline of the Russian empire, since everybody just immediately jumps past that, past the rise of communism, past WWII and right into the classical dystopian communist state that's given so many fantasy settings their villains and Second Worlds. Well you know what to do here already, so it's kind of a moot point talking about it.

In short, there's a pretty long chunk of time when "things were good, but now they are bad, and getting worse" is accurate.
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>>52303473
was wondering when that guy's art was going to show up, someone should dump more of it
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>>52299260
GURPS Russia.
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>>52303711
Now imagine that you're an intelligent but impoverished member of a formerly middle class Gallo-Roman family who lives in the muddy ruins of a once pretty and orderly Roman colony, now vandalised and taken over by smelly Franks. You used to have quite a chunk of land, but it was taken over by some Frankish pig who abandoned it anyway, because these barbarians can only pillage and loot, and now it's being encroached on by a forest. The aqueduct that used to bring fresh water to your town was vandalised by the Franks just for fun, and your family now has to dig wells and drink muddy water infected by all kinds of diseases. And if you thought the Franks were bad, wait until savage Magyars raid what remains of your town and loot everything that the Franks neglected to steal.

Now tell me if this doesn't match the text of this crappy image macro way better than anything you described.
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>>52303840
The Romans didn't have quite so many myths about creatures in the forest and waters eating/consuming you, and were not as superstitious. Living for 2000 years in a large empire with a well-developed road system and the large cities of antiquity tends to get rid of most of that kind of superstition.

There's a big difference between the conquest of the Slavs and the fall of Rome. Rome fell from a great height, but even then the roads, aqueducts, and ruins were still there. Romans had epic poetry two thousand years before Cyrillic or Glagolitic were even invented.

There wasn't shit in slav-land except forests, superstition, and misery.
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>>52303883
>and were not as superstitious

Most wore a medal of a winged penis they would frequently invoke to stop them from being cursed, and their most important government documents where given to them by oracles and esoterically presented the entire history of Rome from birth to collapse.
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>>52303840
Also, let me point out:

>you're an intelligent but impoverished
>tell me if this doesn't match the text of this crappy image macro

The slavs were never educated dude, it all came from Christianity, after about 1000 AD, and this education was focused on religious instruction.

>>52303896
You clearly have no understanding of Russian paganism. It vastly eclipses that of Rome. Especially considering that it had about 600 years of a head start on Christianity than the slavic lands.
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>>52302416

lol, why?
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>>52303901
>The slavs were never educated dude
That is just flat out wrong.
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Also also, to emphasize: due to the lack of written records as well as very active suppression campaigns by the Christian rulers, very little of Slavic myth can actually be reconstructed from primary sources. Even Baba Yaga isn't mentioned in writing until Lomonosov was around in the 1700s. This makes Baba Yaga a contemporary of Beauty and the Beast as written by Gabrielle-Suzanne Barbot de Villeneuve in 1740.

It's not accurate to say "Russian mythology" when most of it is literally fairy-tale tier.

>>52303937
Are you daft or something? That's from the 1400s. The slavs DID NOT HAVE A WRITING SYSTEM BEFORE ONE WAS MADE FOR THEM BY CHRISTIAN GREEK MISSIONARIES. There is no great legacy of Slav architecture, writing, music, culture, or empire-building. There's only mud, forests, and far-off lands that you'll never get to see, but you can hate if you want, that's fine, because they sure as hell hate you since they take your kin as forced laborers.
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>>52302471
Have studied slavic mythology, this sounds pretty accurate.

Except you probably shouldn't even walk near any body of water that isn't the village pond.

Example convoluted way to kill fantastic creature:
Vampire:
Find a horse, have a priest bless the horse, have the horse lead you to the vampire's grave, hope the vampire is sleeping in the grave today, drive a wooden steak through the ground and through the heart of the body inside the grave, catch the butterfly that will come out and DO NOT let it escape, kill the butterfly.
And I think I missed a couple of steps...

>>52303662
Another good example. You have to somehow find Koshchei's soul to kill him.
Koshchei / slav dragons are fucking fantastic fantasy big bads.

Traditional slav dragons are also great for people who want to play FATAL.
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>>52304084
>Traditional slav dragons are also great for people who want to play FATAL.

Afraid to ask why, will ask anyway.

Why?
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>>52303972
I'm not sure if you're a liar or just that stupid, fuck off straight to /pol/ either way
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>>52304112
Supposedly in almost all the oldest versions of the stories that barely survived as - I can't think of another way to say it so I just will - oral traditions the dragons never kidnapped princesses to eat them but to rape them every morning and evening. Their introductionary descriptions would never fail to describe their lecherousness. And sometimes the princesses would use the dragon's lust to trick them and kill them or learn their fatal weakness so that the inept hero or prince could actually kill the dragon and rescue the girl and earn the lord/king's favour.

The slavs absolutely enjoyed listening to dirty stories instead of just scary stories when they sat around their fires in the evenings.
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>>52304176
Are you retarded? Are you illiterate? I'm talking about Russian myth before Christianity and you're posting a Soviet reconstruction of what they think something from the 11th century looked like despite there being no actual images of what it looked like.
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>>52303972
>The slavs DID NOT HAVE A WRITING SYSTEM BEFORE ONE WAS MADE FOR THEM BY CHRISTIAN GREEK MISSIONARIES
Which happend in 9th century. For quick comparison, so your tiny brain can wrap around this data, Charlemagne died roughtly 40 years before Glagolitic was invented, just like you described.
Birchbark codexes are from 10th century.

Rings you a bell how fucking stupid you are?
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>>52304216
>You can't do a building reconstruction without having an image of it
Son, don't want to break it for you, but that's entirely within grasp of archeology for PAST 200 FUCKING YEARS
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>>52304216
>Are you retarded?
>Are you illiterate?
Are you?
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>>52303711
>Le Soviet Orwellian retcon of myth!
Shame most of the written sources and research on that stuff comes from 19th century, predating Marx publication, not to mention Soviets
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>>52304259
It's not a reconstruction so much as it is a complete re-building. It's not like restoring a mayan temple where there are ruins left. There was literally nothing left, so they just re-built it, and there's absolutely no reference for what it looked like. Might as well be just as made up as Koshei or Baba Yaga.

>>52304250
You're just proving my point. When Russians were learning to write, Charlemagne was buried in a then-five-hundred-year-old basilica. In Rome, a city that' would have been 1500 years old. When Russians were learning to write, the Iliad was two thousand years old.

>>52304292
Did you also miss the part where Christianity supplanted any pagan traditions without them ever being written down (unlike their Western counterparts)? And don't talk about Soviet revisionism like it's not a real thing, I lived through it, my parents lived through it, and my grandparents lived through it. A lot of history was omitted or presented in a specific way in order to promote the idea of unity-through-Communism rather than unity-through-ethnicity.
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>>52304321
>Seriously being this dense
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>>52304331
Do you actually have something to say or are you just going to call me names?
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>>52304181

slavs are notoriously feisty mate, in all regards

also
>sat around their fires in the evenings
>not sat inside Banya with hot big tittied blonde farm girl

ishygddt
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>>52304321
>When Russians were learning to write, Charlemagne was buried in a then-five-hundred-year-old basilica. In Rome, a city that' would have been 1500 years old. When Russians were learning to write, the Iliad was two thousand years old.
Yes, and?

Because I hardly see how this invalidates anything they've wrote down from the moment they've gained an alphabet. Especially since latopis (English doesn't even have a fucking name for those) are the most valuable type of medieval chronicles, since the amound of crap in them is put to minimum.

Also, you clearly seem to forget how the fact the Rome was 1500 years old didn't made it anything else than a small town full of ruins mined for easy-to-access marble by locals, who were mostly of barbarian descent. And the same shit was going in entire fucking Europe, with barbarian tribes living in ruins - or building their own mud-huts - of what was left by Romans.
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>>52304339
There is no point arguing with you at all, since you are too stupid to graps... well, just about anything. Assuming you are the original Russian poster, it's just fucking amazing there could be a local who is so fucking ignorant in own culture and history. I am by no means any expert of Russian history, I just have a Masters in History, but we still spend entire semester doing nothing but Slavs (mostly focusing on Poles, Czechs and Rus as three distinctive paths each group have taken, with a small bit of Yugo stuff) and their history, from prehistoric times till 16th century, reading all the sources, textbooks and related shit.

You meanwhile are butthurt about... something, apparently being unable to precise what exactly is your problem with people pointing out that Slavs weren't just bunch of savages and adopted "higher culture" as soon as it was possible, instead trying to put them in a light of eternal barbarians.
No wonder people call you to go back to /pol/, since it's literally one step away from outright /pol/-tier "argumentation".
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>>52304396

>focusing on Poles

t...thanks for noticing me s...senpai
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>>52304356
>latopis (English doesn't even have a fucking name for those)
letopis is translated into English as chronicle. The term for the document is the (first) Chronicle(s) of Novgorod.

My point is that the original description of a Slavic setting I posted in >>52302471 is accurate and cannot be applied to the any kind of person living in the area formerly belonging to Rome, because
1) the slavs did not have nearly as lengthy a history of architectural, cultural, etc accomplishments as, say, any location ruled by Romans, hence the general bleak backwater feel of the whole thing, and the "tales of great cities from far away that you will never get to see."
2) the slavs were pagans for about 700 years longer than the Romans and kept more of their superstitions even after Christianity was introduced, hence all the "forest and lakes will eat you" parts.
3) were invaded from everywhere but the North (since there was nobody there), and especially from the East
4) only slavic myth has such a focus on killing things in a specific and convoluted way

>>52304396
>instead trying to put them in a light of eternal barbarians.
It's hard not to do that when they don't have their own writing or their own religion, and when the first rulers were foreigners (as were many of the major rulers later on).

That's not even that important, though, let's say that slavs aren't uneducated barbarians and have actually contributed something to humanity besides being able to take something from someone else and autistically obsessing over it, let's say that slavs are the best ever. What kind of setting does that make?
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>>52304470
>My point is that the original description of a Slavic setting I posted in >>52302471 is accurate

Right, right if you ignore every single Slavic myth, legend, custom and cultural artifact it is accurate. It's a good thing we can just ignore anything that doesn't fits into our worldview on the internet.
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>>52304619
You got some counterexamples or are you just going to say "wrong" and run away?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY6sI3muOjc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIcYfoaKkWA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5HcMnto5tk

Throwing in some inspiration.
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>>52303300
St Olga of Kiev is too metal for our feeble Christendom
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>>52304321
The slav stories survived the exact same way the Iliad did. People learned the stories, which were composed with lots and lots and lots of repetition to make them easier to learn, to make them easier to remember and to make them easier to retell, and people retold them again and again and again. It was closer to now than Kievan or pre-Kievan times that people went out and sought out remote communities and wrote down their elders' stories. But it took about that long for the church to start getting properly thorough with properly wiping out pagan tradition, and longer still for education and writing to become common.

>>52303602
Three lands, three kingdoms, and many sets of three princes or three princesses or three headed monsters or three great challenges. It's everywhere because it's a holdover from and important part of the oral tradition process. Going over something three times burns it into your memory better, and telling something three times gives you more time to remember what comes next.


The slav stories did suffer a lot from being altered. Particularly by the people who went out to research them. Most of them amalgamated the stories and changed them to appeal more to the wealthy upper classes of the 1700s and 1800s (actual Russians top culprits here), but some scholarly efforts did survive (the Yugos did good here)
The same goes for classical mediterranean stories, myths and folklore just as much. The canonical version of Medea - which has spawned expressions popular with modern upper class snobs - has Medea kill her own children, but there's evidence that suggests that in many older versions of her story her children were killed by the people of Corinth.

One way or the other, who cares? Stories are stories. If it makes a fucking excellent fantasy setting or inspires a cool campaign, perfect.

>>52304647
lel, classic
What was the more cartoony one with the goofy dragon and the businessman type guy that looked like a dwarf called?
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>>52304631
Not him, but do you have any real examples, aside of carefully crafted bullshit that apprears valid if someone doesn't have a slightest clue about the subject in question?
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>>52304647
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnVd8FrEK80
Never forget THE SACK.
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>>52303651
>>52303659
That's a great idea for a lich's philactery.
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>>52304425
You're welcome. Kind of sad how your country completely fell apart twice, first due to shitty gavelkind for 5 sons (most likely based on a forgery of the last will) and then, right after the kingdom was finally united centuries later, it again ended up in shit, because your native dynasty died and was replaced by utterly incompetent Hungarians. But at least you get the Commonwealth out of it in the end, so it's still something.
On a side note - how the hell Poles can consider Hungarians their friends after Louis of Hungary and then his daughters? Unless it's some sort of Hungarian propaganda? Or propaganda created by nobles, since it gave the foundation to their rule over the country?
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>>52304812
Koschei the Deathless was the OG fairy tale lich.
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>>52304782
The Storyteller is excellent, but that one is by far the best.
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>>52303756
Just search "Mythic Russia" as OP title in the archives and you'll get a ton.
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What about Modern Fantasy in Russia?
Would there be pagan wizards and stuff?
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Include Baba Yaga and her dancing hut.
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>>52304871
There's an anime called First Squad. It's about fantasy WW2 with undead nazi teutons and soviet battle magic.
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>>52303529
Technically more like High Dwarves.
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>>52304631
Eh, i'm not that autistic to dissect that entire post, but:

-The creatures of nature are not usually evil and can often be placated or reasoned with. There are some that can't, but in general the grim defeatist tone of the memepasta is wrong.

-River trade was basically the main industry in pre-Kievan Rus and Kievan Rus periods. While the bit about foreign cities is correct, the grim defeatist tone of the memepasta is wrong.

-"Foolish noble who gets his comeuppance" is a very prevalent archetype of myth, although "noble who is actually a pretty cool guy" is prevalent too. Generally speaking, the higher you are on the nobility totem pole, the higher your chances to get beaten by the self-propelling club in the end. This actually continues to this day (not the self-propelling club thing sadly, some people here really deserve it).

-Back to the "trading" point, hard to trade if you despise your neighbors. "Don't be a cunt, but be wary" is probably a better characterization of slavic relations with neighbors (most of the time, other slavs).

-Chopping trees in the forest is probably the dumbest thing you can do in slavic myth. "Don't be a cunt, but be wary" applies here full-force. If you fuck with nature, let it at least be gentle lovemaking, else you gonna have a bad time.
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>>52304928
I think it's pretty apt to draw parallels between old English Mythology and Slavic Mythology. I mean fuck; English Mythology is often cited as "Too overused" yet I have never seen a single Setting use English Mythology as the basis, only Tolkiens Mythology, which is a mismatched of many things.
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>>52304084
The "kill the butterfly" part was common for most evil creatures. There are a lot of fairy tales where an evil sorcerer or the devil got outsmarted by a young lad/soldier/prince, and was burned, and the villagers had to stand near the pyre to kill snakes and birds that crawled and flied from the ashes so that no evil could escape. I'm gonna google if Propp's fairy tale books are available in English, hold that thought.
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>>52304834
And yet we tend to forget our roots.
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>Modern Fantasy in Russia
The Night Watch cycle of books/movies. Your classic "order vs chaos" conflict where both sides are dicks (Chaos side more apparently, but Order has its own MAJOR fuck ups).

The Secret City by Vadim Panov. While the writing often betrays authors' bias (and sadly not in a good way), it's still an entertaining read. Operators opeating operationally against power-hungry sorcerors, mad scientists and modern threats encroaching on the territory of remains of three pre-human civilizations now residing in Moscow. Never (to my knowledge) translated in English because fuck you глyпыe инocтpaнцы.
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>>52305123
Didn't they shoot a series based on Secret City? Dunno if it's good or even translated.
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>>52304470
>It's hard not to do that when they don't have their own writing or their own religion, and when the first rulers were foreigners (as were many of the major rulers later on).
Exactly same shit applies to the rest of Europe in Early Medieval period, you stupid cunt. Literally same shit, different region and different semi-barbaric tribes. Stop wanking about Rome. Rome as the high and mighty empire you keep talking about cease to be a thing around early 4th century and went only downhill from there. Even before total collapse it was just a husk of the glory you are imagining.
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>>52305136
They did, but i never watched it. Apparently it's mediocre.
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>>52303581
Did you just say that someones gameworld need to follow YOUR standard?
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>>52302471

Anon, life was hard enough for the Slavic peasantry, why would they make their fairy tales and bedtime stories just as bleak?

That's why Russian stories are so whimsical and bright, because they're a reflection of what the people want, not what they know.
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>>52303581
Um... only that Morana get treatmet as "evil" precisely due to those Christian monks, who were by default putting every deity of death, underworld, dying and related shit into "evil" bag, because they've percieved those as a form of satanic cult, regardless of what local religion was really about (but who cares what it was about if the point was to Christianise locals and put the end of their vile paganism)
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>>52305326
Some of them pretty bleak, just like all other fairy tales, my dude. Folklore can be really dark at times. Most "authored" fairy tales (which were using the folk tale story and rewritten in form of poetry, for example) are bright, yeah. Most of Puskin's fairy tales are. There are some exceptions, like literally this:
http://www.artrusse.ca/Pushkin/tale_cockerel.htm
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>>52305326
http://fairytalez.com/the-judgment-of-shemyaka/
Here's a pretty cynical one.
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>>52305351
>>52305400
Not him, but it's not about saying "Russian fairy tales are all just light, optimism and joy". Fuck it, most of them are bleak as fuck if you start pondering about all the implications. The point is about they overal tone is about eventually succeeding, even if the "bad guy" wasn't even scratched in the process. That's - at least for me - the unique part in Rus and Russian tales. Bad guy is still there, still in charge, still powerful. But you had your small victory and came out of it alive. Kind of serf mentality if you ask me - "the lord is good, because he doesn't beat me too hard and still gives us something to eat".
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How many CYKABLYAT posters are ITT?
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>>52299260
>What would a Russian-inspired fantasy setting be like?
Like all those paintings of Slavic peasants and mammoths that were getting spammed on /tg/ last month.
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>>52303929
>lol, why?

Because if you do it too much, someone will bitch at Hiro and he'll disable pdf sharing on /tg/.
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>>52305123
Night Watch has nothing Russia-specific, though. It could be set in any other country and it would still be exactly the same book/movie. And author was fixated on subversion of expectations to the point of complete nonsense.
Evil girl falls in love with a good guy? He is going to betray her so she does not betray him first.
Murderer goes on a killing spree in the magic underworld? Good guy hell bent on smiting all the evil.
Who is a better influence on the common people? Vampires and witches, because they recharge their magic by sipping evil from everyone around them, while good wizards have to feed on happiness and good intents, leaving behind miserable jerks.
Guy is tasked with maintaining the balance? Mastermind behind the biggest shitstorm ever.
And so on. Fucking everything in the magic world must be counterintuitive, just so there can be yet another plot twist.
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>>52299260
There's Kislev from the Warhammer Fantasy setting (RIP).
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>>52302471
FUCK OFFFFF
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>>52305544
While world-building elements were nothing Russian-specific, but characters mentality and actions? Very much Russian.
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>>52302471
I don't get why people hate that one. While half of those certainly have nothing to do with actual slavic fairy tale mentality, they can still be used for worldbuilding.
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>>52305926
Because they perfectly describe Russian serf mentality instead. A low-life that is powerless, but doesn't even try to change anything, because the entire structure exists to keep him down and shackled. Instead all that anger is directed at oursiders and basically anyone faring better than him.
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>>52301764
I want /pol/ to leave.
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>>52305123

Ughhhhh fuck the Night Watch it was so bad. The author is a piece of shit propagandist who wants gibs from the government and a borderline ephebophile.
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>>52303581
kys my dude
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>>52304292
Not that much better. Romantic nationalism wasn't that keen on truth either
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>>52306160
>Still trying
You forget to mention it was mostly researched by Jews to be 100% /pol/tard
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>>52306674
huh? All those really bullshitty descriptions of early medieval like viking horn helmets come from that era
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>>52304717
St Olga of Kiev is the best historical waifu.
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>>52305335
And why would people burn effigies of a good, or neutral goddess? Surely not because the monks told them. To the monks, all of the pagan deities were burning-worthy filth. In fact, people still burn Marzanna in Poland every spring.
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>>52303711
I'm also Russian, if that counts. I agree with the guy you were replying to and I think that your post is a load of self-righteous nonsense.

You think giving a condensed breakdown of the country's entire history reinforces your point in any way at all? Well, congratulations, you know your own history, not everybody knows even that much. It's all irrelevant to the topic at hand, though, because the topic in question is fantasy, and it's solely derived from the romanticised middle ages. In Russia's case, the period before the Mongolian invasion. See how I dealt in one sentence with what took you a whole wall of text?

The reality is that the pre-Mongolian period was the golden age of the East Slavs. Life was continuously getting better. Trade was blossoming. Cultural exchange with Byzantium introduced high culture to the people. The duchies were growing by repelling or absorbing the nomads or colonising the sparsely populated lands to the north and the east. No crusaders really bugged them. The nobles grew so complacent and overconfident that they failed to cooperate in an effective way when the Mongols invaded.

So, no, things hadn't been better. They had been a lot worse. And were about to get a lot worse again, but that's another story.
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>>52306950
>St Olga of Kiev is the best historical waifu.
You're only technically right, and that's because Jeanne is literally 2pure.
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>>52307124
>The nobles grew so complacent and overconfident that they failed to cooperate in an effective way when the Mongols invaded
I'm not sure they would be able to oppose the Mongols in any meaningful way anyhow, especially not after Kalka, which collapsed the only chance that ever was. Entire Mongol army went through Russia. Stopping that would require combination of two things that weren't at hand by anyone in entire Europe, not just Rus duchies: actual combat tactics and sufficient numbers.

Not to mention the fact entire East Slav region was in the middle of feudal collapse, just like West Slavs.

So I'm not sure if there was any chance ever to repell Mongols.
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>Ok guys, time to roll up your characters!
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>Ok Nigel, you're a peasant
04
>Cool, Phil you're the serf
>But I dont want to be a serf
>It plays a serf or it gets the iron rod again
>...ok
98
>Shit, I might be a noble!
>Barry, you're a peasant
>Fuck!
>What was that?
>Fuck that's great!
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>God damn, John you're the party bear
>A bear?
>Yes, a large brown bear
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>>52307124
Russian? Great!

Explain me something - why the fuck Russians are so... ashamed of the Kievan Rus period? I mean it was literally THE Golden Age for all Rus and somehow everyone acts like it was some shameful thing, when a bunch of semi-tribals reached high end civilisation within single generation and then had a prosperous period like never afer or before for next 300 years.
What the actual fuck?
It's some sort of commie-era propaganda drilled into your heads or something? Literally ANY nation would boast about their golden age and Russians act like Kievan Rus was an era of failure.
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>>52307124
I'm the third Russian and I could not care less about historical accuracy of a fantasy tabletop game.
I'm on the side of the guy you are replying to, because I enjoy the image of a stereotypical grim, silent, pessimistic but first of all pragmatic slav person struggling daily against unfriendly wilderness.
As long as the end result is not grimdark for the sake of grimdark, the provided description of a slavic setting is fine.
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>>52307777
IIRC the Kievan Rus was a period when the Rus Swedish Vikings came down to the Slavic lands, killed off ALL the Slavic nobles in the area, and made themselves the nobles of the area.

Maybe they don't like it, because it's like "yeah that time when we got fucking raped by the swedes so hard, our nobility is 100% swedish and 0% russian".
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>>52307825
Thing is, other East Slavs consider it as great time. It's Russian-specific disdain for that period. Ukrainians think it was great (well, KIEVAN Rus), but so do Belarussians.
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>>52307825
Um... Kievan Rus as a period more or less starts 100 years after last viking "settled down" in any part of Rus, and it's part of the "starting" point - no more vikings
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>>52307825
>Killed all the slavic nobles

Why do rabid political ideologues try to discuss history?
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>>52307777
You're misinformed. Does this opinion come from an isolated encounter with some Russian? Because in this case you met an outlier. Russians, to be frank, don't care too much about Kievan Rus, chiefly because they usually don't know too much about it. If you're lucky enough to meet a Russian with a strong opinion on this subject at all, he'd mostly likely tell you that things were great.

There's also, understandably, a whole lot of wanking to the Novgorod Republic.
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>>52307947
Welcome to post-Soviet Russian historiography.
>literally everything that exists has political implications, t. Karl Marx
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>>52307947
That's how it always been.
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>>52303624
>ancient
>cannons

Pick one.
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>>52307969
History was a prostitute in the service of government even in imperial age, and it wasn't exclusive to Russia as well.
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>>52307931
Ah okay. Well, then I don't know.
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>>52308000
Klyuchevsky was pretty based, he gave his frank opinion and wasn't afraid of anyone.
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>>52299260
Slightly off topic, but for Russian-inspired Sci-fi check out Nikolai Dante.
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>>52308046
He was really, really biased at times. The worst offender is probably Ivan the IV. Just read it, most of it are speculations without facts.

http://www.kulichki.com/inkwell/text/special/history/kluch/kluch30.htm
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>>52303901
>Russian paganism vastly eclipses that of Rome
Perhaps it's more that your knowledge of Russian paganism vastly eclipses your knowledge of Roman paganism.
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>>52308084
>Ivan the IV
Honestly, he was probably the most difficult figure in all of the Russian history to assess in a properly scientific and unbiased fashion (at that point).
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>>52308150
But muh Peter the Great
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>typical hero has low str, int
>also high cha, wis
> Typical journey includes creepy forests, spunderworld, crystal mountains, cursed items, dragons, speaking animals
> typical enemy is immortal lich, halfdead witch or three headed dragon
> authorities tend to screw with you
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>>52308585
Baba Yaga could help the hero as well as try to cook and eat him, but you can always remind her of rules of hospitality and she'll become chill.

Most dialogues with Baba Yaga in fairy tales look like this:
>"Blergh, I smell a Russian spirit here! What do you want here, prince?"
>"“You old hag! Is it the way in holy Russia to ask questions before the tired guest gets something to eat, something to drink, and some hot water to wash the dust off?”
>"Okay.jpg"
And then she helps the guy out.

She also sometimes have 2 or 3 sisters.
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>>52307952
Not sure. I mean, sure, it was limited, but when you meat in total... fuck... 17? Russians and only one of them when asked about it doesn't start ranting about how incompetent, stupid, badly organised and just shit was Kievan Rus, something is up.

>>52307982
>Missing the part about newage crackpot
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>>52308675
Nearly every creature can either help you or eat you depending on its current mood. Except for Koschei. This motherfucker is always lawful evil.
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>>52308675
Think this way:
Whole journey of Ivan the Fool is methaphor of priesthood/shamanic initiation. Hut on chicken legs is 'domovina' or burial site, Baba Yaga the Bone leg, is passed relative, who acts as guide to the world of spirits, etc.
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>>52299260
>What would a Russian-inspired fantasy setting be like?
Decent people shouldn't think too much about that.
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>>52309034
I heard about the whole "baba yaga is a priest man who dresses like woman to transfer a young man into adulthood" theory a lot, but I never saw any actual records concerning that. Only speculations based on common rituals of ancient cultures. You have to remember that modern historians gave us such things as god Svarog and Svarozhich, which could've possibly never even existed at all, as there's only a single mention of them, and only in the sources of like 15th century.
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>>52306018
/pol/ wouldn't imply that the person who got fucked over by the "scrying" was the rightful heir.
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>>52299260
If on a road, you decide to take the middle lane, and clearly and calmly signal that you do, an underage russian driving a danger zone incarnate will shout CYKA BLYAT EBANI PIZDEC at you, become an invocation mage, then kill any car and driver in your party, including you, himself, and then be banned by God into a low priority hell plane.
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>>52309061
I see what you've done here and I like it.
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>>52308675
She can still eat him if he's rude, as it works both ways.
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>>52303266
Mother Teresa is a Saint outside of Orthodox Christianity and she fucking created special clinics for the purpose of torturing people!

Sainthood's a bit broad and vague to say it simply.
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As you go wandering along a dusty road in 14th century Russia, a mongol warrior comes riding up. He tells you; "I am going to rape your wife but since there is a lot of dust on the road, then you should hold my testicles while I am raping your wife so that they do not get dusty.". After he finishes up and rides away, you begin to laugh and jump with joy. Your surprised wife asks you, "How can you be jumping with joy when I was so brutally raped?". You reply "But I got him! His balls are full of dust."
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>>52312599
Fuck off, overrated marxist philosopher.
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>>52300459
i liked the first few books.
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>>52305525
That has never stopped the pdf sharing. Not to mention the gigantic pdf share thread that is constantly up. Hiro doesn't do shit either.
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>>52299260
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>>52314106
But that's a shitty vodka, my man. Only bydlo drinks that one.
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>>52307982
>implying the smolenskan cannons haven't existed since magic birds caried them down from the heavens
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>>52302471
This post actually comes from a thread I started asking about Russian mythology and folklore, looking for inspiration into making a setting.

This pdf is the result, or one of them. Since my players didn't care too much, it's only made for myself, with a lot of holes in the setting that only get filled in my mind. Still, it's the best game I ever ran, so there's that. Thank you anon, for the inspiration.
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>>52299260
Fucked up. Russian folklore reads like a Vietnam flashback on LSD.
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>>52314106
>swill
oyush cyka blyat
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>>52314106
>Drinking this shit
It's almost anti-freezer tier of quality
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>>52303711
Things were never good in Russia. It's just that its neighbours advance, while it stays the same feudal hellhole. Which, actually, gives us a possible Russia-inspired mythology:

Once there was a great empire. After a devastating defeat in a war it turned to magics it did not understand and was not ready for. With little options, it powered them through human sacrifice, turning what was supposed to be a bright new dawn for humanity into a nightmare.

Magics made the empire great again. But because it did not understand them, it could not power them without blood. Neither could it endure the horrors released by so much death. After sacrifice ended they faded and so did the empire, ultimately collapsing.

Now people live in the ruins of the past age of glory, haunted by the memory of countless victims yet unwilling to accept any blame, thus unable to exorcise them and begin anew. Magic itself has been tarnished to the point where the corrupt clergy which rules the rest of the world can cling to their power even as their gods, in turn, begin to succumb to time and change.

And in the heart of the empire, in a mausoleum protected by vestiges of magic still too powerful to overcome, the body of the first sorcerer king still lies. Is it truly dead or just sleeping? All that is known for sure is that it refuses to become dust.
Basically, post-communist Russia is a post-apocalyptic setting with some eldritch horror thrown in.
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>>52299260
Samurai Jack.

Not even kidding, it's basically a Russian fairytale with a Jap protagonist.

>Civilisation exists, but in a manner foreign and strange to both the audience and the hero
>Magic is everywhere, and it is almost always hostile.
>In fact everything's fucking hostile
>Even your self is hostile
>You might, maybe, if you are really fucking lucky, become a king.
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>>52299290
>Rostov, Saratov, Voronezh
>cold

>Alania
>cold

>Circassia
>cold

>Chechenya
>cold

>Crimea
>cold
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>>52308814
Ever since 2014, it's been a bad idea to ask about anything to do with history and Kiev or Ukraine in general. It's guaranteed to turn into shitpost central.
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>>52314452
You never read Russian folklore (other than the >>52302471 shitpasta), we get it.

>>52318406
>Things were never good in Russia
Kievan Rus. Petrine Age. Catherinian Age. Napoleonic Wars. USSR in the 60's.

>>52320604
Anon, Voronezh had temperature drops of -20°C this winter. And when I was a little kid, it once went as far below zero as -30°C. It's not the sunny city that you probably imagine, I live here so I should know.
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>>52302471
Russhits and Russophilic scum btfo forever
Go drink some more potato vodka you sad cunts
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>>52321914
>>52318406
>>52309061
>>52305976
Is it an open day on /pol/ or what?
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>>52321948

Someone forgot to lock the door
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>>52321914
>That pasta
>Rusophilic
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>>52321914
Fuck off to /pol/
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>>52321948
>>52322315
/pol/'s highest priority deeds besides hating black people and those whom art endowed with especially sizable schnozes is fellating the kremlin and his adventures better than his crackwhores can (or krokodile, I assume they don't go for much there).

Put(a)in de merde my dudes.
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>>52322750
I've read this about 6 times and I still have no idea what you just said.
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>>52303266
Czars weren't automatically saints, and Olga was a saint because she converted to Christianity.
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>>52321823
>Kievan Rus.
Warring states, nomads from the south, the Prince of Kiev decides to tax you twice, you kill him, then your local prince thinks it would be a good idea to hit on that prince's widow, she gets all bitchy and genocides you all

>Petrine Age
At last, it's time to get all civilized and European! But not for you filthy peasants, get to work. Also that one kid will serve in the army for the rest of his life, because we need to show that arrogant Swedish boy that we're better than him.

>Catherinian Age
Well now we'll get civilized for sure! It's the age of enlightenment after all, here you can learn French, read Rousseau, Diderot, Voltaire, get progressive ideas and all. But wait, are you a filthy peasant again? Well than enlightenment's not for you, now you won't have any rights whatsoever. Don't you dare complain, life in Russia is great! What, you're actually a noble and your life isn't so great? Then get everything you want and be happy, build yourself a nice rococo palace and don't forget to kiss Katie's shoes.

>Napoleonic Wars
Bonjour, I'll just pillage your town here, kill your son and rape your daughter, don't mind me. Have any complaints? Talk to the pomeschik who owns you, he'll sure do something about it. Adieu, stay mad and burn Moscow. I'll die of cold anyway, then you can reclaim your lands, go see Europe, get progressive ideas (yes, again, third time's a charm, right?) and spend the rest of your life in Siberia because none of that "freedom" shit is needed in Russia.

>USSR in the 60's.
Look, Stalin was bad m'kay? Now everything will be nice. Oh, but don't get too excited, or we'll shoot you. Freedom, yay! Also we'll fly to space and destroy those capitalist pigs with our superior military power and nukes! So get to work you filthy worker. What, aren't you happy? Where's your enthusisam?
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>>52323358
>Jumping directly from Kievan Rus to Peter
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>>52323358
Without putting Mongols and medieval period into it, it looks like it was all Peter and Kate who turned serfs into slaves, and not just picked up existing system.
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>>52322750
Eat shit, shillarybot. Your political crap is still /pol/ and should be kept there.
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>>52323358
Plot twist - the short-lived period under Khrushchev was literally THE only time when USSR was not nightmare to live in for one reason or another and making people happy for real. Finally most of post-war trauma was over, the country was not just rebuilded but started to expand economically and that little freedom given to people actually working out.

Cue Brezhnev taking over and shit going back to where it was within months
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>>52323575
>Complaining about /pol/
>shillarybot
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>>52323590
Yep, everything political is /pol/. Now fuck off to /pol/, hillarytard.
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>>52323580
Short period between the civil war and Stalin apparently was decent too if only because people were still hopeful and motivated.
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>>52323619
But back then you had:
- international embargo by pretty much everyone and their dog
- country badly mangled by the war
- country badly mangled, because it's Russia
- bunch of complete idiots from top to bottom in the ranks, with their rank solely depending on how radical they were
- it lasted even shorter than Khrushchev
- entire focus was put on rebuilding

Most of those things no longer applied to the political thaw of late 50s and USSR was a superpower for real (no, seriously, Cuban Crisis was the last time they were even remotely close to being balanced with US)
And when compared with that bafoon Brezhnev and then literally senile Andropov, it was fucking peachy.
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>>52323358
Liberal pls go and stay go
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>>52323739
>seriously, Cuban Crisis was the last time they were even remotely close to being balanced with US)

Actually, military parity was maintained until early 80s, when Soviet nuclear arsenal overtook American one and the quality and numbers of Soviet air and armor surpassed NATO enough to be a persistent threat throughout 70s - that is a reason why Carter and others pushed for SALT and détente, because they knew that Soviets could roll in into Europe any day, while Soviets were looking for economic relief while they were still able to grow the economy (Brezhnev era is also known as a "great stagnation", when almost 10 years were wasted trying to make central planning work, while Kosygin reforms of 1960s were sabotaged).

If WW3 were to happen back then, Russians probably would have won. It is only with Reagan and upgrades in military tech by late 70s that brought the balance in favour of the West.
USSR missed its historic chance and were actually defeated by their own belief in historical determinism and economic trajectory that would vindicate central planning, while in reality the opposite happened, in an ironic twist.
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>>52323964
>Not treating 95% of your population like slaves makes you a liberal
Remind my, why are you shitposting, rather than doing your 12 hour shift for bowl of food?
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>>52324224
>>>/pol/
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>>52324215
I'm not talking about just military, but the ability of Soviet economy to keep up the pace, while also churming up all that military hardware.
And like you've pointed out, Brezhnev fucked up that economic opportunity to the point when no matter what they would do, it was too late and most definitely too little.

Do you think Eastern Bloc fell apart because of people wanting freedom or because everything that wasn't vinegar, mustard and bread was rationed by 80s all over the bloc, not just in USSR? That's why Brezhnev fuckery had such lasting impact.
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>>52324253
>/pol/ telling other people to go to /pol/
Not gonna work, you mongoloid. Just fuck off from this thread already. Literally third of all post here are some /pol/ bullshit and whenever anyone points that out, /pol/ "counters" trying to pretend it's the other side that belongs to /pol/
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>>52324274
>>>/pol/
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>>52324215
>>52324260
The incompetence of pretty much everyone who wasn't Japs, Chinks and... Chileans when it comes to central planning always keeps me baffled. How fucking hard it can be to just keep a flow of all informations from all your production facilities to measure how much you have, how much time it takes to move and make shit around and how much fuel its going to use? Fucking CHILE managed with that, while having barely any infrastructure and using 1k of telex machines, organising the entire system within 2 years. Chinks started running similar stuff the moment Deng get into power. Japs were pulling that shit when all they had was a fucking telegraph.
And Soviets didn't manage to pull that shit for 70 fucking years.
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>>52324215
You're so fucking full of shit. The Soviets lost the tech race in the '70s because their computer tech program was years behind on the West. In fact, the entire idea of perestroika and just fucking giving up on the Soviet Union came from Soviet diplomats visiting Western computer science labs and seeing that they were literally years behind on the West and the gap would only get bigger with the years.

For fucks sake, learn some motherfucking Cold War history.
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>>52324306
IIRC one of the main problems the Soviets had was that Stalin had transformed the Soviet state into a perpetual political meatgrinder where you'd always have to look for backs to stab, while avoiding getting backstabbed yourself.
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>>52324318
>entire idea of perestroika and just fucking giving up on the Soviet Union came from Soviet diplomats visiting Western computer science labs
>For fucks sake, learn some motherfucking Cold War history.

In my country situations like have a special name, which can be translated as "to plough yourself with your own arguments"

It doesn't make the argument about tech-gap wrong, that was the right part of your post. But this bit? Seriously, dog?
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>>52324274
I don't care who's trolling who anymore, the fact is, the thread is an irredeemable shitpile at this point, and all because /pol/ posters made it their dedicated shitting street.
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>>52324318
>le computer meme
Your point doesn't invalidate mine at all, I did say that the west eventually outpaced the soviets by 70s. Reading comprehension much?
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>>52324318
>the entire idea of perestroika and just fucking giving up on the Soviet Union came from Soviet diplomats visiting Western computer science labs
What? Where did you come from with such stupid ideas?
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>>52324369
Don't you know the easiest way of dealing with /pol/ is report, hide and ignore, continuing the thread as if they weren't there?
I miss times when there was still no /tg/, so people were used to shitposters in hobby-related threads and just ignored them. Now it's bunch of people who might be sitting on /tg/ for years, and still can't deal with enty level shitposting.
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>>52324337
Sadly, this. The moment there was a way to show that Khrushchev was weak (because he didn't start out WW3... weak, right?), he was deposed by a career politician, who's main idea for running the country and the entire Eastern Bloc was to pretend everything is fine and not doing a thing, unless it was about sending tanks against protesters.

It's like that old joke, when Stalin, Khrushchev and Brezhnev are in a train and the train suddenly stops in the middle of nowhere. Stalin quickly orders to get the chief engineer shot and his assistants send to gulag. Khrushchev rehabilitates the assistants and sends for them to retrive them from gulag. And Brezhnev stands up, block the window with curtains, sits back and starts making "tu-tu-tutut!" noises (the sound of train rolling over the tracks)
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>>52324380
History books. Modern history books.
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>>52324435
Which ones?
Because seriously, that's the dumbest shit I've heard since someone seriously made a claim it was the power of the Beatles that caused the collapse of communism.
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>>52324430
And that system continues to this day.

Putin has been purging the Duma and his inner circle for the past few months, and just this morning an ex-Duma member who fled to the Ukraine after his Duma privileges got revoked after complaining too much about Putin got assassinated in Kiev.
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>>52324460
>and just this morning an ex-Duma member who fled to the Ukraine after his Duma privileges got revoked after complaining too much about Putin got assassinated in Kiev
Ha. Go read about that guy, he fleed Russia and became innocent freedom fighter when criminal charges were over his head. That guy made his money taking over and stealing other people businesses. Now you portray that opportunist scum as innocent victim of Putin's terror. Do you hear yourself sometimes?
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>>52324460
Well, after all Putin IS a former KGB operative, so it would be suprising if he would NOT use heavy hand and intimidation to rule.

But enough of this bullshit, back to OP's subject. Any modern shorts or maybe even books taking inspiration from Kievan Rus? Like the stuff written by Olga Gromyko? I fucking love her short stories, especially the one poking fun out of Koschei and his feisty wife.
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>>52324445
How is that stupid? It makes perfect sense. Computers are force multipliers. When the Soviets found out they were running behind on computer technology, a force multiplier, they realised that the Soviet Union was already dead. They realised that there was no way to win against the West. In such a situation, there are only two ways forward, either you dismantle the system (which the Soviets did) or you dig in (what Nicolae Ceaușescu did - for a while until he died/got killed).
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>>52324482
>Implying Putin doesn't do the same shit
>Implying his inner circle doesn't do the same shit
>Implying it's not how business is done in Russia since late 80s
>Implying THE most favourite tactic of slander used by Putin is "he was corrupt and we are fighting with corruption"
Let me guess - you are /pol/'s regular? Or just wata?
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>>52324482
>Go read about that guy, he fleed Russia and became innocent freedom fighter when criminal charges were over his head.
Oh yeah, because Putin's courts are so... independent in their judgements... ;)
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>>52324504
Are you regular /pol/ regular with russophobic flavor or just salo?
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>>52324500
>The complex socio-economical crisis with serious erosion of political power can be explained with one factor
>That factor is lack of proper computer technology
>It makes perfect sense
By your logic, China's economic explosion under Deng was caused by suddenly developing a powerful computing infrastructure, most likely out of the blue

Seriously, there is typical stupidity, and then there is shit like your claims.
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>>52324516
Go read about him, my friend. He was a cunt, 10 of his accomplices were jailed and then he fleed and became terror victim.

Do you want scum like him in your country?
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>>52324485
Yeah, I guess I will totally get this thread back on track after this:
>>52324500
>>52324504
>>52324516
>>52324518
>>52324527

Guys, for fucks sake. Kievan Rus and Medieval Russia. Pretty fucking please. You can always go with this shit to different board.
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>>52324542
Do you want scum like Putin to choke you with his propaganda?
Oh, wait, you are wata, so how could you say anything bad about the glorious leader. After all, it's only a crime if you are stealing without Putin's permission
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>>52324500
>How is that stupid?
It's just a made up excuse when more obvious explanations are available, excuse which strokes your ego and thus convincing.
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>>52304176
Gotta get your 10 minutes of hate in on /pol/ don'tcha?
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>>52324556
Do you want scum like him in your country?

I asked you a question. Tell me do you want faggot with raiding business running parlament and pretending to be beacon of freedom and all good in your country?
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>>52324543
>Kievan Rus and Medieval Russia
What about the final days of tsardom? It's a pretty neat setting by itself. Sure, it cuts out (usually) all the fantastic elements, but it's kick ass all by itself, since, well, final days of tsardom. Bonus round if you set it up somewhere in Siberia or Central Asia.
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>>52324579
What my country? I'm a German, you moron.

And explain me following
>It's ok to hunt down a guy and kill him without any trial or anything at all, because hey, he was the bad guy, we know that for sure!
>It's ok to steal, as long as Tsar Putin gives permission, but the moment you step ahead, you are suddenly "evil thief"
>It's ok to be taking the same propaganda for 20 straight fucking years about Putin fighting with corruption, just ignore the fact every single corruption scandal erupts every time someone from his inner circle decides to be a bit too independent.
>It's ok, when Putin does it all.
tl;dr - go fuck yourself. It takes to be brain-dead to side with Putin and pretending he's a good guy. It's like that line from Get the Gringo - "Look, you're corrupt, we're corrupt. There's one difference. We're honest about it."
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>>52324543
Sorry but we are already past 200 post mark and with libtards here we are not going anywhere in the remaining 80 posts.

Obvious ideas for adventures are hunting huge chthonic monsters in the weird far corners of the world, sneaking into sorcerer's citadel, impossible task of building good roads.
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>>52324621
You reading comprehension sucks as much as your women suck migrant cocks, German idiot
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You meddle in other people's elections to make their democratic institutions degraded and corrupt as yours and instead of becoming a respectable nations like better countries such as Germany you want to transform everyone else into a failed state like yours to make it fair
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>>52324585
Nah, Central Asia gets derailed into Not!Arabian Nights too easily. But Siberia is always good, especially when you set the game in a frontier town. This way you can both have and eat the cake - it's late tsarist era, but there is still "evil wilderness" around and dark forces just few paces away from the town's outskirts

Have you ever played Pathologic? I'm talking about something like that. At first glance, it's just average frontier town. But the longer you look, the weirder it gets, even within the town itself. And the shit going outside of it will force you to quickly roll for Sanity checks.
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>>52324636
>>52324655
>>52324656
Thanks for keeping this thread still of tracks, despite best effort
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>>52324656
>to make their democratic institutions degraded
By exposing corruption and crimes within leading candidate party supported by king's secret service and royal news network. It sounds the other way around, bro.
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>>52324683
A man with a swastika for a head is pretty frightening
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>>52324683
I made more relevant post to this thread than you, no need quoting me
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Easy Mode: Bear Cavalry
Hard Mode: Bear Cavalry on fire
European Extreme: SKELETON BEAR CAVALRY
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>>52324636
>Sorry but we are already past 200 post mark
Yes, and?
>and with libtards here
Oh, ok, I understand

>>52324667
Man, Pathologic was kick-ass. Literally the best setting you could make out of tsarist Russia. Hell, it wasn't even set in Russia, but some fantastic counterpart and it still worked wonders. Literally Call of Cthulhu: Steppe Edition
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My fucking god. Can't we add a board rule saying that /pol/tards should not be using /tg/ as their backup containment board, or something ? This is insufferable.
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>>52324684
Trump is a Manchurian candidate. He literally has former Gazprom propagandists working for his campaign.

Did you even listen to the Senate hearings? I listened to the whole thing and there is so much damning evidence. Just waiting for them to find the smoking gun and reveal he was in direct contact with Russian intelligence
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>>52324739
>. Can't we add a board rule saying that /pol/tards
We should add a board rule saying that libtards are still /pol/tards. It would solve oh so many problems.
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>>52324728
>Bear cavalry
No need to go that extreme to be already badass knight-but-not-knight, noble-but-definitely-not-noble
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>>52324750
>>52324760
>>>/pol/
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>>52324750
>Trump is a Manchurian candidate
As opposed to the woman who received money from Saudis (you know Americas second best friends who support terrorists at the same time) while getting support from people whom said Saudis would kill in a blink of the eye?
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>>52324767
Bogatyrs are bro tier.
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>>52324760
>We should add a board rule saying that libtards are still /pol/tards. It would solve oh so many problems.
So much this.
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>>52324807
That's why I'm confused with the bear cavalry. The only thing you might need a bear is to be more efficient as wedding ded, begging for food and money, while being entertaining enough to not get kicked.
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>>52324801
Go to bed Boris
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>>52324838
What's with Rus and the dancing bear? Any explaination?
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>>52324801
If you can't see why a candidate having many problematic connections to a country that was irrefutably involved in an online hacking spree that targeted his political opponents and by all accounts wholeheartedly supported him while also meeting with campaign members to discuss lifting sanctions for invading a free country would be considered much more immoral then you are a fool.
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>>52324739
>Someone makes a joke
>Faggot tumblrites get triggered
>Need to get their hate in on/pol/ and start complaining about pol
>Moan on and on about it all thread, ruining the thread
You fags are far worse
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Snake tree. It's a tree. With snakes.
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>>52324852
>>52324909
Anon, many Russians are disheartened about the West because instead of hope and alternative they saw the same corrupted bunch of thieves and families running the show albeit covered with thicker sweeter coat of lies and media noise. You elections are another example. Even if you don't like Trump, he is a better person for the job than corrupted professional politician. You turning a blind eye on Hillary is eyebrow-raising. It's the opposite of how our liberal media pictured perfect, clean and just West.
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>>52324909
>irrefutably
not that guy but lmao
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>>52324926
Shut the fuck up, and kill yourself already.
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>>52324949
And it bleeds. And its blood is poisonous. So fucking metal.
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>>52324949
Any context? Or it's just something that exists "because" in Russian folklore?
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>>52324971
Still going on about it
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>>52324955
Shut the fuck up, commit suicide.
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>>52324485
>Olga Gromyko? I fucking love her short stories, especially the one poking fun out of Koschei and his feisty wife.
Are you talking about "Poor, poor Koschei", where Koschei is in fact a based guy, but his former lover is trying to make him miserable by killing each new girl he's with, so he starts picking instead the dumbest and ugliest landwhales around, knowing they will be dead soon anyway and ends up with a cunning, beautiful wife when a girl wants to escape from unwanted marriage with some boring boyar?
This shit was hilarious, especially the "magic" they were doing with the Mongolians
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>>52324992
Not before lib/pol/ fucks off to /pol/
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>>52324986
>if i pull off your warmask, will you die?
>it would be extremely painful
>you're a big giant
>for you
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>>52325025
Kill yourself. End your existence.
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I dunno where I got this from, but it's in my Slavic mythology folder and I like it so I just post it.
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>>52324955
But Trump is himself a hypocrite and corrupt
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>>52325045
Nah
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Tinyass demons.
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This is just historical art, not mythological, but she can bandit radio my cheeki breeki if you know what I mean.
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>>52325144
They are all Asians though
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>>52325144
Be careful, she has scissors to cheeki your breeki
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>>52324926
Holy shit.
I just came in because a thread about fantasy russia sounded nice. And what do I see ?
/pol/ this, /pol/ that, "tumblr", "liberals" and "triggers" everywhere.

And not a single day passes lately, without some other tards shitting on threads with "feminism", "cultural something something", "cucks" and other "keks".

Remove yourself from the genepool. Kill yourself. Take a dick, maybe ? I don't care what the fuck you do, but do it elswhere - this place is for talking about traditional games, not to be your fucking political blog.

I don't give a shit if you are leftist, rightist, or wathever the fuck. So GET. THE. FUCK. OUT, and take all of those damned buzwords of yours away with you.

You are the cancer of this place. YOU ARE THE PROBLEM HERE, YOU FUCKING MORON.
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>>52325165
Volga Bulgars are the only cool remaining Bulgars.
t. regular Bulgar
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I don't really understand this image in detail, but I think I have the basic outlines down.

So the hero flies a horse to rescue his chick out of a flying house while his future stepmom is standing down on the ground making autistic REEE screeching noises?
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>>52325144
>That kaftan
Love this shit.
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>>52325264
More or less. It's an illustration from a fairy tale and she's basically in a sky palace.
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>>52323964
But if liberals go, how will your country be any different from Russia? Russia's problem is precisely that it's ultra-conservative and thus fails at everything except causing misery.
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>>52325285
Tried to find some more qts for you. Only other qt in the folder, sadly.

Also, wtf is up with those skeletal garden lights. I think that the witch in the image is a bit edgy.
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>>52325201
Remember to chant BB after your 2 minutes hate
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>>52325201
If you just report and hide all the /pol/-posting, this is still a pretty based thread, even if it shrunks to barely 100 posts or so.

So what you you want to know for your version of fantasy Russia? Outright fairy-tale style? Deconstruction parody (it works wonders with such source material, trust me)
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>>52325285
>>52325356
Nevermind, found another qt. A superior qt. Holy fucking shit.
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>>52325201
But seriously, why does the mere mention of the word /pol/ cause spergouts like this in some people?

Can I get a therapist in here?
>>
>>52325356
Baba Jaga must either look edgy or barely human, that's part of the character. I'm assuming it's an illustration from Wise Vasylisa (that would be the bowing girl). It's basically a story about a village girl who get enough of all this shit, went to the dark forest and became Jaga's apprentice, while Jaga has her rare appearance as a level-headed, LE wise woman.
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>>52324215
In what way could Soviet Union possibly had "won" WW3? By blowing up the planet thrice while the US could only do so twice?

Or are you just another moron ignoring facts and logic to push your political narrative? Because that will end the same way for you than it did for Soviet Union, and everyone else who's ever done it for that matter.
>>
>>52325421
Holy fucking shit... please tell me you have source or author...

>>52325426
Because /pol/ is cancer and allowing it on your board causes thread getting derailed like this one.
>>
>>52325201
I'm anti-alt right but you sound super asshurt and will hurt our image by posting blocks of ass ravaged text. Just tell them to fuck off and leave it at that instead of humiliating us
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>>52325264
Yes, in some fairytales Vasilisa the Wise is daughter of Baba Yaga
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>>52325356
That's just how Baba Yaga rolls.
Love Bilibine's works, by the way.
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>>52325435
Thanks for contributing nothing to the thread, but futher shitting it up.
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>>52324482
>he fleed Russia
>stealing other people businesses
You know a country's in trouble when it can't even hire literate propagandists.
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>>52325435
Pre-emptive strike that limited USA's ability to react. This would require intel they didn't have.

USSR had more missiles, better redundancies, emergency preparation, etc. USA's policy was "duck and cover lol".
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>>52325450
>Because /pol/ is cancer and allowing it on your board causes thread getting derailed like this one.
You're the one going on and on about it instead of just laughing at the humor or ignoring it.
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>>52325521
Great refutation, my libtard friend
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>>52325421
Sauce?

>>52325479
>Finger marks
I see someone did their homework
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>now listen here you little shit, if i see you touching my nuts one more time im turning you in squirrel stew

>>52325458
That's just a /pol/ shill falseflagging an "anti-/pol/" post because I've been burying his pathethic attempts at /pol/ifying the thread by posting images. Just let it slide, ignore it. Discuss and post images.

>>52325450
Vania Zouravliov
http://www.vaniazouravliov.com/
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>>52325553
https://art.vniz.net/ru/zouravliov/
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>>52325545
This was my 2nd post in this thread, the previous one was >>52325431. Thanks for knowing better than me what I'm doing here.
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>>52325479
>mfw a younger version of the legendary cannibal witch
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This one just boggles my mind.

Is it a river spirit? I never thought Slavic people would have Poseidon twins in their mythology, since most of their land is landlocked and all.
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>>52307699
kek
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>>52325557
>/pol/ shill falseflagging
It's not falseflagging since anti-/pol/ libtards are still /pol/ and belong there
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>>52325587
You are forgetting very important factor here - there is FUCKLOAD of lakes and marshes in what constitutes of eastern Poland, Belarus, northern Ukraine and sizable chunk of western Russia. Not to mention the heavy dependency on rivers.
You don't need sea to be scared shitless of water spirits.
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>>52325587
Looks like the Sea King to me, he is often fickle and hostile to humans
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>>52324955
>Even if you don't like Trump, he is a better person for the job than corrupted professional politician.
So when should we expect him to start showing it?
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>>52303883
Not superstitious? If anyone mentioned fire during dinner, people poured perfectly good water all over the dinner table in a sort of knock-on-wood.
t. Romaboo who will argue they were disgustingly superstitious
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I just wish a janitor would clean up this thread and regain all those posts eating out space ATM
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>>52325642
When he killed the TPP.
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>>52325587
Two things: first, this character is from the Novgorodian legends. Novogorodians lived by the sea, they were merchants, fishermen and pirates. A large proportion of them, anyway. Second, it's a figure shared with Finnish mythology, so it might have originated there.
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>>52326019
Ah that explains some of it.

Also
>river mermaids
Brb, moving to some river in East-Europe.
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>>52326215
Even Polish capital has a mermaid as it's crest. Apparently fish tits won over a previous design, which was a freaking dragon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Warsaw
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>>52326293
> Apparently fish tits won over a previous design, which was a freaking dragon
Fish tits are too strong
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>>52326293
Your CoA may be badass, but is it musket lion badass?
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>>52326574
It's a severed head on a sword badass.
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>>52304181
This is no more FATAL than D&D
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>>52325356
The girl was sent to get a source of fire from Baba Yaga by evil stepmother, expecting her to get eaten. But girl had a doll blessed by her dying mother. Baba Yaga was repulsed by a blessing and send the girl away, granting her a burning skull. Skull then burned the stepmother with laser eyes.
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>>52325356
>Also, wtf is up with those skeletal garden lights.
Medieval security cameras.
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