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Am I the only one that thinks that the Vow of Chains is REALLY good for what it makes you give up, mechanically speaking? Just drop your attacks by a measly 1 to-hit and you get a ki every 3 levels? Sign me up, that's freaking awesome.

>>52283522
>where did their hopes and dreams go
They never left.

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Is it possible to play a LN character without being autistic about laws?

I made a Grippli druid LN because I figured I could just adhere to Grippli cultural norms and have a vague notion of natural balance.

>>52283522
Lessee... one wanted to be a noble knight in service of his beloved goddess. One isn't sure due to his amnesia. One is-

... Why do I keep having characters who really really want to work for their goddess. Is that my Thing now.

>>52283559
It's beautiful for the Unchained monk, who has a Full BAB and can afford to lose that amount of attack bonus. A 3/4 BAB monk can't afford even -1 to hit.

>>52283604
You kinda need a code of SOME kind, even if it's not like, legalistic. You'd need to stick to Grippli TRADITION rather than just cultural norms, otherwise you're just TN.

>>52283604
Also my character is terrified of orcs, would it be dishonorable/antithematic to a LN char to run away from orcs?

>>52283604
My current LN character doesn't care about laws so much as loyalty. If someone pays you or saves you then you owe them, and their "laws" slot in above other laws. Your captain tells you to do something then you do it, even if it breaks local law.

>>52283604
Lawful alignments being related to adherence to the law of the land is a stupid meme that needs to die. Just give your druid a creed or code of conduct that he lives by.

>>52283467
What are some good 3rd party resources for antipaladins? Preferably not PoW.

>>52283613
Let's be fair, anyone who takes the original monk, unless it's to be an Arcane Archer, is failing themselves anyway.

>>52283635
Zen Archer, dummy.

I want to marry a woman who's Valeriya in the streets and the Vilderavn in the sheets.

I want to give Gloriana a hug!

>>52283652
L-look, if I was looking to get bullied I'd go to /v/ to post about what video games I actually liked.

>>52283629
Yeah, I am a druid after all, I'm thinking going full holy war against the orcs that are desecrating my swamp after killing my tribe.

>>52283689
Fun is a buzzword ya stupid.

>>52283689

I bet you're one of those people who actually bought Horizon: Zero Yawn.

>>52283681
I want Maice and Gloriana to be the bread in a Vier sandwich.

>>52283605
It's a good thing. Goddesses are for love and devotion.

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>>52283752

>>52283749
No! But my roommate did and I've been watching him play it...

How do I build the memeiest of Unchained Rogues, assuming 1pp only? I'm talking lethal joke character tier here.

must contain a grand 7 Str/Int, 5 Wisdom.

>>52283757

I still can't believe you can make Kazuma as an Avowed (Celestial) who never uses the pulse.

Eris is the patron.

>>52283767
I recognize that manga.

>>52283816
Celestial, or Divine? There's a difference.

>>52283797

Did you at least jerk him off while he played?

>>52283833

There is? In that case I'd have to say Divine since it is literally a goddess, not just an angel.

>>52283840
Of course not, you can't afford to be distracted while fighting machines that size!

>>52283806
Ifrit Paladin 2/ UC Rogue X

Dump Str and Wis. Done.

>>52283816

Isn't "Steal" a Clause for one of the Pacts?

>>52283858

You... You're really bad at this, aren't you. I've seen men beat Smough and Ornstein while getting blowed, why can't you handle a handy against some robutts?

>>52283806
One level in Barbarian

>>52283852
Divine's a caster cheerleader, Celestial gets repeatedly punched in the face.

Question for people who post apps with themesongs.

What makes you choose one particular song over another for your char? Do you make a character, then select a song, or do you find a song, then design a character to fit its theme?

>>52283819

Tried last night, but honestly couldn't think of anything substantive to say.

I can try again if you really want me to, but I can't promise anything.

So for Weird Wild West game, how cool of a concept is the whole, Desperado Warlord VMC Bard whose guitar is also a shotgun? I want to be the most A E S T H E T I C character.

>>52283806
Take Nature Soul, Animal Ally, and Boon Companion, and have your dog fight for you

>>52283877
LOOK. I'm not going to be the one to get blamed and yelled at if SOMEbody dies while I'm doing my work, okay? I get enough hassle having to deal with everything else.

>>52283894

Ah, so Celestial is the right one for Kazuma.

>>52283910
Just know you'll never be as cool as Coma-Doof.

>>52283930

Oh please, if they die than they get to take it out on you, I'm sure you'd appreciate a firm tug on your choker.

A villain says the following line to your character, how do you react:
>Pitiable is the play thing of a god. Does one feel free in a cage where they can not see the bars?

>>52283964
I blast him with my crossbow while he's monolouging.

How much XP did I get?

>>52283964
>I guess so.
And then you kill him.

>>52283964
Something like:
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
And then yeah I stab him

>>52283630
Legendary Villains: Anti-paladins

>>52283975
>monologue
>literally two sentences
Shit he could say that WHILE fighting.

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>>52283964

>I-I-If relieving the suffering of others is a c-c-cage, then what good can come from freedom?

>>52283979
If you really want me to play along, I add
>Thanks for the puzzle, I'll think of you whenever I ponder it.

>>52284003
It's longer than a single word. It's a monologue.

>>52283975
>>52283979
>>52283985
Y'all are a bunch of plebs. The real answer is:

"The only one who is truly trapped in their cage is the one that thinks that the bars cannot be broken. You are a fool, and I'll be sure to never think of myself as limited as you after you're dead!"

THEN I charge and stab him.

>>52283910
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QHxWNl3TDI

>>52283964
>Yeah? Well at least I'm not Anthony Burch

>>52284035
This is the EXACT video that inspired me to make the character.

>>52284029
>villain says "sup faggot" before charging at you with a baseball bat
>tfw villain monologued at me

>>52283901
I'm not sure if I should think of that as a good thing or a bad thing. I'd appreciate it. Even if it's not the full review you normally give, just something would be nice.

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>>52283604
Kiryu Kazama of the Yakuza franchise is a perfect version of an LN character who breaks the law.

Coincidentally, this also makes Goro Majima the perfect CN foil to Kiryu-chan

>>52283964
"I worship a dead god, dumbfuck. Do I sound like I give a shit?"

>>52283997
Thank you very much! I've actually read this one before but I couldn't remember the name of the actual book.

Who in Wrath of the Raunchy does /pfg/ ship?

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>>52283964
I pie him.

>>52284122
Sweet Embrace of Death X Everyone

>>52284140
Honestly, that'd be a welcome change from /pfg/'s usual shit.

>>52284133
Don't forget to toot your bike horn a few times. He's gonna HATE that.

>>52283522
Aww, she looks so sad.

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>>52284151
If only...

>>52284122

Lucius x Irina is the primary ship right now, I think.

Yes, people wanna set up the crossdressing vigilante up with their alter ego.

>>52284122
Lucius/Rath, but not Irina, who needs to go away in order for Lucius to achieve his true strength, getting all the Vigilante class features without breaking social identity.

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How do I make a DoT build? I know it's probably weak as fucc but I want to watch people burn. Fire, poison/acid, bleed, whatever works best.

>>52284167
Then you gotta caper away.

>>52284122
end X my life

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>>52283522
She just wanted to make her dad proud. Now she has to pal around with 3 murderhobos and a guy who is being payed to make sure she survives. She just wanted to heal people.

>>52284217
The problem with DoT builds is that nothing lives long enough for the DoT to even be noticeable, and if it is something that's seen on the scale of the "one hand" of rounds that Pathfinder combat usually comes down to, then it's just D, no oT.

>>52283964
>"... Oh, um. No- no, she was very clear about the bars. She apologized! I can do more now."
>"Look, I'm doing this job so that the OTHER dumbfucks that somehow ended up running this world don't ruin it. I work for her because she helps me help everyone else who lives here. Maybe being in a cage sucks, but at least it's a light enough cage I can hit all the other fuckers with it."
>"... no, I really don't. But- I don't have a choice, do I? I'm her only hope. If I don't carry her message, who will?"
>"He has no power over me. Not anymore."
>"I can see the bars perfectly. YOU are the one blind to the truth."
>"I WILL SHOVE A FIREBALL SO FAR UP YOUR ASS YOU'LL BREATHE FIRE."
>"The gods are dead. Mortals are the only true power in this world, and we will NEVER bow before you or ANY other."
>"You see a cage, where I see a welcoming home. She asks my aid, and I give it. You offer nothing but despair."
>"... Wait, hang on, it's SENTIENT? Oh, wow. Uh- hang on, I need paper."
>"Beats freezing to death."

/pfg/ what is a good class if I want to make a one-armed character? Third party is cool, 'a wizard' is not.

>>52284302
A Sorceress.

>>52284302
Two handed fighter

>>52284302
ZS Warder, OD optional, Scarlet Throne Style, go into Landsknecht.

>>52283964
>Cogito ergo sum, muthafuckah. And your demiurge schlock is a load of bull.

>>52284302
Blind Samurai from the SoP Divination handbook.
Be blind and have one arm, and be the sickest badass

>>52284302
Empty Hand Fighter

>>52283964
I put on my cleric's Fedora and say, "I am no play thing of the god's, because there's no such thing as them."

I then cast Miracle and ask for more Miracles to kill this guy and get a lot of gold

Rolled 46 (1d100)

Don't mind me, just passing through...

Rolled 4, 6 + 2 = 12 (2d6 + 2)

Same here, nothing to see.

>>52284302
druid

>>52284373
Everybody look! This anon is rolling penis size.

>>52284382
BUT WHAT WAS THE d100 FOR!?

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>Vult on all the male apps to Pure Lewd Dudes

>>52284400
Anal circumference.

>>52284400
Penis size.

>>52284402
Are any of the dudes even pure lewd?

>>52284436
No. No traps either.

>tfw reviewanon konked out after drinking

>>52284451
Did not!

Gamze is proving more difficult than anticipated, she's small but feisty!

So is there something other than the Bodywrap of Mighty Strikes that I can give to my Unarmed guy to boost his attacks? Because WOW is that was too expensive for very little reward.

>>52284457
Amulet of Mighty Fists is way better. Just find another source of enhancement to Natural AC like Barkskin or something.

>>52284457
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/a-b/amulet-of-mighty-fists/

>>52284456
Can you review the Romance of the Righteous Kingdoms apps please?

>>52284463
>>52284470
Thanks broskis, I even knew this existed but forgot when looking through the list.

>>52284456
That app is just like "I googled 'moe' and this is what came up"

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>>52284513

>>52284513
"I googled 'moe', then I thought about and added 'turkish'."

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>>52284513
>>52284527

>>52284549
Quickly, someone template this over Gamze's app.

What elements of fantasy Russia/Moscow are interesting to explore in a homebrow setting for Pathfinder? What about The Eastern Roman Empire?

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>>52284549
>>52284541
>>52284527
>>52284513
>>52284484
>>52284456
Gotchu.

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>>52284612

>>52284475
I completely forgot that was recruiting. Totally slipped under the radar for me.

>>52284531
Well I mean the character not the art

the character is just generic anime personality. the art is kinda neat.

>>52284677
Kaoru Mori, man. The woman does good work.

>>52284673
You got until Saturday anon!

And speaking as the GM of that game, I'm really glad in flew under the radar. Universal Leadership kept the applicant pool pretty low and there hasn't been too much memeing.

>>52284302
Dynamancer. From gonzo 2. They can be 1 armed and be better at using 2h weapons than people who still have both arms.

>>52284711

I want to apply, but I'm having a very tough time coming up with a concept that blends together being first level and untested while also being important enough to lead people around and have world-shifting aspirations in mind.

Between Elemental (Primal), Orc, and Draconic, which Bloodline should I exclude from a full Crossblooded Blood Havoc blaster Sorc memebuild?

>>52283752
>Possessive yandere, morally loose paladin, traumatized rape victim
In that order. This can't end well.

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Dipping into Legacy of Blood and Fire with Gamze bint-Samiri

>Sold to a wealthy family as an infant
>Family ignores her, and leaves the rearing to Haleen.
>Haleen leaves, Gamze turns to Harrow reading
>Contacted by spirits, and shown the secrets of Witchcraft.
>Leaves for Kelmarayn to find Haleen

A young witch, who places her faith in the heart of the cards.

Good:
A clever twist on the concept of a Cartomancer; I don't think I've seen someone focused on the mathematical/mundane parts of the deck before. This is also a pretty cool angle for a Witch, since it creates an immediate contradiction between the magical side (Witches being far more mystical in origin than any other spellcaster) and the rational side. Definitely play with the idea a bit more.

I like that the player included her thoughts on slavery; they show a bit of a darker side of Lawful Good, but I doubt they'll come up due to the nature of the AP.

The framework is all potentially interesting, it just needs more meat.

Bad:
More than anything, this character suffers from a lack of development. If I was going to expand on this, I'd probably focus on a couple of key ideas:
1. Her adoptive parents buying, then neglecting her is odd, and seems like it'd be a major part of her personality, but it's not really touched on. How does this affect Gamze? Does she love/hate/ignore her "parents"? Does she even consider them her parents? All things that could round out the character (especially since you have the Family Ties drawback).
2. Haleen raised her and is her driving motivation, but there's almost nothing about their relationship beyond a sentence fragment. Why?
3. I don't know what it is with /pfg/ and thinking "socially awkward" is an acceptable substitute for a real character flaw, because it's not. She needs something that makes liking her not super easy. There's plenty of ways to make her more than a generic moeblob.

>>52284863
4. How did she gain Witch powers? What does she think of them? How did she come into contact with her Patron? You say it's "the spirits of the game" but that's not really an explanation.
5. Where does the Alchemy come in? If you're going to VMC with something, it should have some kind of a link to the PC, this one doesn't (from what I can see).

>Appeal 6/10, Moe as fuck, has one really good idea, and a bunch of decent ones. Whether they're developed and the character comes together as a rounded whole remains to be seen.
>Backstory 4/10, I hope it gets more interesting after revisions.
>Compatibility 8/10, Support-ish Witch with crafting abilities, and a personality that has little to dislike.
>Aaaaarabian Niiiiiights 3/10, not much ties her to this specific setting.

>>52284876
Got time for Tomasz?

>>52284863
>>52284876
Someday I'm going to craft a character solely for the goal of scoring a perfect review.

>>52284970
You'd never get that without writing it specifically for whoever is reviewing it

>>52284970
Noel got pretty close the day before last, with something like 9/7/8/10.

>>52284990
It'd have to be about a game where I didn't actually care about getting in, so I could make a character I don't want to play and decline if I ended up picked. I'd wait for reviews to start happening first, scan over the criteria, and craft something that panders to all the reviewer's arbitrary preferences.

All for nothing but a set of numbers.

>>52284863
>>52284876
Whew, we meet again ReviewAnon2.

I have to admit I was a bit taken aback by (but also secretly enjoying) the memeing being done over my characters, so your commentary is really helpful.

I'll probably dig into her with what you said in mind soon, particular the relationship with her adoptive parents, Haleen herself and maybe a bit more about her powers. I didn't want to overinflate the backstory and make it a slog to read through, but I could probably stand to have another one or two paragraphs to better lay out my thoughts.

In my design notes, the Alchemist VMC actually represents experimenting with mind-altering substances to enhance her insights into the harrow, although I'll have to mull that over too depending on what the regional attitudes to drugs are.

>>52284992
>>52284970
My apologies, according to http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/52266023/#q52267091 she received a 8/9/7/10.

>>52285046
Well, the regional cash crop is a hallucinogenic. The GM doesn't seem to have explicitly changed that.
http://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Pesh

>Do tournament quest with a GM
>He slips in teams from various media
>In the second to last match, my character(based on Adol Christin), has to face somebody who looks like him but brown haired instead and is named Lance
>Of course, he remarks all sorts of things that made my two teammates(both female) ANGRY
>my two teammates proceeded to butcher him via a crit and tons of attacks

That was a fun moment...

So I'm trying to make a pretty okay build for Titan Mauler. What are some ways to build an unchained barbarian running this archetype? My DM did stats in a weird way, so I ended up with super high base STR and DEX. I've also picked up a belt of physical might +2 dex and con putting me at

22/22/16/10/10/8

I find myself unable to do any specific build well, and I continuously get overshadowed by my teammates. I've tried going for sword and board trying to get a higher AC and then just charge in, I've tried just going pure damage with a large greatsword, I've tried doing range but then I realized that was disgusting, etc etc etc. All the different builds that I try just proves to me that I am just really shit at building characters. Knowing all dis, how do I make it so I can actually be a useful member of the party?

I heard one of the games was finished the application window tomorrow? Which one? I'll do my app while at lunch at work tomorrow.

>>52285143
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/71538/hells-rebels-literally-cant-even-edition

Might be a bit tight.

>>52285145
I probably have time. If not ah well.

>>52284943
Not tonight. Tomasz has a fairly hefty backstory, and I'd like to give it the time it deserves.

>>52284970
Hell, I'll make it easy for you and tell you *exactly* how to get a perfect score from me!

>Appeal: The character needs to pop, with a strong and distinct personality that also provides rich and multi-layered story possibilities for both your fellow players and the GM to take advantage of. Uniqueness helps! Flaws are must, but the character can't be *too* flawed, else they become unlikeable. Best Example: Thalafel from HV2.

>Backstory, doesn't overstay its welcome and isn't bogged down with necessary details, but also fully explores and fleshes out the key moments that have made your PC who they are today. Bonus points for showing rather than telling, and light dry humor. Closest Example: Winston from HR


>Compatibility: Character needs to slot effortlessly into almost any party, without stepping on anyone else's toes, or causing unpleasant friction.
Closest Example: None I can think of!


>X-Factor: The character needs to be one that really could only be played to their full potential in the given setting. Ties to major ideas and themes of the adventure are a must! Just make sure to not be too ensconced, to the point that the adventure revolves around you.
Examples: Noel from HR and Onryou from RotJR.

Do all that and I'll be more than happy to give you a perfect score!

>>52285046

>I didn't want to overinflate the backstory
I don't think you need to add a ton, just enough to gives us a bit of insight into her mental state, and how the event has shaped the woman she is today. For this kind of writing, the summary of an event isn't nearly as important as how the character reacted to it.

>Alchemist VMC actually represents experimenting with mind-altering substances
I really like that!

>>52285208
>Example: Thalafel from HV2.
Shit taste desu, he was a fucking awful character, that's why he didn't get chosen.

why is 2hu so active in the other threads of hr when he doesnt have an app?

>>52285231
Because the GM promised him a slot.

Looking at the Hell's Rebels apps I don't see any that actually fit the game's theme? Like, it's supposed to be hipster protest bullshit and all the apps seems more just standard /pfg/ anime horseshit.

>>52283604
Lawful is more about being consistent really. You have a code, or a directive that you follow and you act consistently in accordance with it. Chaotic characters just act in whatever fashion takes them at the moment. They may be good, but they could decide that stealing from that rich asshole is for the greater good and do it anyway. Neutrals on the Law/Chaos axis will decide be sort of flexible on the matter, maybe deciding that robbing the rich asshole is a bad thing and not doing it, then having a change of heart the next day and and going ahead with it. A lawful character would decide that stealing is bad and never steal again unless it was absolutely necessary for their survival or that of the world. Okay, maybe not *that* extreme in some cases, but you get the idea.

Lawful means acting in a predictable manner. You can be counted on to always be consistent, be it always waking up early or refusing to harm a particular kind of creature that's sacred to you. The challenge will come with making a decision of how your character will act in certain situations and sticking to your guns. It might be easier to survive if you cut down that tree to make a bridge and get away from your pursuers, but if it's a sacred tree to your people and you're forbidden from touching it then oh well, guess surviving is just gonna be a bit trickier.

>>52285242
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3WimCPUkQY

>>52285231
Rumor has it, he has been given a pass by the DM for his help in getting the game off the ground. It seems as if he will slip in in his pre-selected app at the last minute.

Say, can you actually crit on Rising/Ruby/etc Zenith Strike?

>>52285075

>In the second to last match, my character(based on Adol Christin)

First, great taste in games senpai

Second, what class are you playing?

>>52285261
Yeah.

That was /pfg/'s general reaction.

>>52285270
from what i read, no

You know what one of my favorite fucking things to do as a GM is?

When players get cocky I put them up against a villain way out of their league, the laugh when they get their teeth kicked in despite being given the chance to back down multiple times.

>>52285231
because you have all been bamboozled into a game with his 2hu trap maid kitsune who works in a maid cafe and is going to be GM's-girlfriend tier better than you

>>52285273
Well, its mainly his appearance and personality

This is a gestalt game and I chose Mystic + Aegis as I wanted to be a Lightning-element swordsman. I took traits and stuff to get Scarlet Throne and Primal Fury

The GM ran with the joke and uh, the Lance guy was a carbon copy of me in terms of abilites except he uh, was 100% opposite in terms of personality, to complete the joke that Rance is basically Adol if he is instead a serial rapist

>>52285226
Reminder that he didn't get an honorable mention, either

>>52285281
So...what happens then? Does said villain just shit on them and fuck off? Does the villain become a recurring threat that they need to build up to? Do you just decide you're going for a TPK because you're petty, what?

>>52285268
It's not a rumor. It's happening.

>>52285311
>>52285226
Reminder that it's all RA2's opinions and not the same as the GM's opinions. RA2 enjoyed Thalafel because of how inane and needlessly mean-spirited he was, but the GM didn't like him for the exact same reason of "pointlessly-mean".

>>52285297
I'm F/SN anon from yesterday.

The game would be set during the 9th Holy Grail war occurring in 2021 in San Francisco.

I personally have run 6 other Holy Grail wars with the 1st and the 5th being backstory wars (I ran 2-4, added 5 as a backstory war, and ran 6-8). All the previous ones were for my in person group. Most often I would take Lancer as an NPC servant in order to facilitate a better Holy Grail War. Here is the previous list of servants.
>http://pastebin.com/riSZGjzE

Because all previous games were run for my in person group I never had to compile a list of lore. A lot of shit happened and we have a canon for the Fate/Last Path holy grail wars going back to 1802 in the game world. So it's probably gonna take me a while but I'm gonna have to compile a setting document of summaries of all the previous Holy Grail wars, what happened to various servants, the masters (surviving and no) and the changes to important organizations like The Clocktower and the church.

Right now I am here to answer any questions about the game's canon. It helps me organize my thoughts.

Also for the game's building here is how a servant will be built:
>level 12
>30 pb
>mythic 5
>only PoW except for caster who gets Spheres Casting
>you get a single 9th level maneuver as a Noble Phantasm, or a minor artifact built using specification I give you
>each class gets a set of extra skills in addition, like Magic Resistance, Presence Concealment, Battle Continuation, Mad Enhancement, etc. these will be in the document I'm compiling
>every player gets randomly assigned a 5th level Master PC I build
>you mostly control this Master except for a modified version of Hero points called Fate points, they do a few different things compared to Hero points
>you earn a Fate point every time I have your Master do something against what you want them to do or if you master sacrifices a Command Seal

Willing to answer questions.

good apps dont necessarily mean someones good from a gms perspective

or that theyd be good in a game period

truefact

>>52285311
The GM hated him apparently.

>>52285344
Best part is the guy wouldn't even be disruptive. His entire theme included you having to give him things to destroy, he wouldn't take/steal and destroy. Plus he had a whole part where he talked about keeping soldiers under his command comfortable and fed to ensure his own safety.

The guy was an ideal coworker.

Personable, professional, ruthless when needed, takes care of his own. PLUS he was the only support/ranged character of the bunch.

He just so happens to have some bad hobbies.

>>52285345
Do you have anybody who wants their master to be a player?

>>52285345
Hm wait, why are you replying to me

>>52285344
>>52285362
HV is a hammy game and he wouldn't have fit. I understand the GM's choices.

>PLUS he was the only support/ranged character of the bunch.

... Not to say that the GM's picks didn't have somewhat different issues, however.

>>52285318
One can never be sure with all the shitstarting and falseflagging, I guess. Unless you have applied and are in the loop. I don't care either way. It is amusing though.

>>52285391
everyone but one app was dex based

theyll find something out

>>52285378
Sorry I didn't mean it, it was an accident/.

>>52285375
I did that before where I let players whose servant die either take over their master or play someone else's master. I have never had someone enter as just a master.

It's kind of boring because you're 7 levels, behind, non-mythic and generally much less power. Plus I have 6 people in my in person group so we didn't have the spare folks for people to play masters and servants.

>>52285399
The GM said it directly, in these threads, several times. In this case, one can be sure.

>>52285400
>Falafel was ALSO high Str.

>>52285391
The thing is none of the folks he picked were really hammy. The reason he gave was because Falafel was evil without reason. I think that's sort of the point though for what DHB was going for. Falafel as a character was a fucking amoral sociopath and was born an amoral sociopath.

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>one image perfectly fits the character you want to make, except it's a bit too lewd

It is a confused kind of feels.

>>52285391
>HV is a hammy game and he wouldn't have fit. I understand the GM's choices.

I never said the reasons for rejecting him were illegitimate (although I can't help but wonder if the reception would have been warmer for someone other than DHB), I even noted that there were potential tone issues.

That doesn't change the fact the character was a well-written and engaging take on Evil.

>>52285425
Just crop it.

>>52284122
Irina/Rath, and somehow Rath never finds out Irina is actually male.

>>52285406
Maybe. I don't have any investment in the game so I never bothered to verify. I just don't care. The nerdrage over 2hu is seemingly endless. I can't wait to see what becomes of this dumpster fire. /pfg/ loves their drama.

>>52284122
Lorelei x Nocticula
Lorelei as dom, Nocticula as a power bottom

>>52285446
I'm excited for the fire when PLD closes. There's absolutely no group that won't cause hell with the rep the game picked up.

>>52285433
a character can be well written, interesting, engaging, and still be a bad fit, I'm one of the HV players, and I liked it, but I understand why he wasn't picked.

I don't recall ever seeing Pathfinder Vices in the trove. Could someone throw up a link, please?

Our GM regrets he let us do whatever we want
Because we just fucked everything up and now in bad mood complain to GM

>>52285433
Reviewanon, if you had to rank DHB's characters what order would they go in?

>>52285469
Yeah, that should be fucking hilarious as well. My bet, 1 session before that collapses on itself.

>>52285482
http://carnal.orfinlir.de/versions/PathfinderVices.pdf

Sometimes I wonder if /pfg/ games are becoming too incestuous. I tend to see a lot of the same names across various games.

Conversely, I wonder if someone getting into one game might hurt their chances at getting into a different one.

>>52285498
Thanks. I was hoping for something a little less banal. I should have known better.

>>52285492
Don't remember most of them, but off the top of my head:

>Thalafel
>Bubbles the Gun Monkey
>Ricktor Watt (another decent character that was horribly mismatched tonally)
>Fat Punch Guy
>Party Dwarf

>>52285527
Hobgoblin family man

How easily could sand gum up hinges or clockwork, /pfg/? The question's just come up in Legacy of Blood and Flame's FAQ, and the thought occurs that a clockwork arm might be a poor choice in a desert setting.

>>52285507
>incestious

I was thinking of the other kind of incest

>>52285562
I imagine something as complicated as prosthetic clockwork arm has some very delicate machinery inside of it. If you were to get caught in a sandstorm or something, it would probably be catastrophic.

>>52285527
>NTRDwarf
>NToRacle
>Old Spy
>Punch Fatty
>Gun Monkey
>Moon Hopper
>Asmo-Fish
>Weird Triplets
>Doctor Love
>Mr. Standoffish
>Monday
>Falafel
>Madlad Tribesman
>PARTYDwarf

>>52285562
Depends entirely on how you treat them. They won't be gummed up in a day unless you're literally rolling around in the sand. Even then hinges are not designed to allow grit to just get into them. Clockwork is more of a concern but generally they're enclosed in some way. So the answer is as long as you maintain it nothing should go wrong.

>>52285498
How do you get the perfect blend of tiddy and thicc with these rules?

>>52285562
>>52285594
To continue with what >>52285591 said, if you were caught in a sandstorm the clockwork may very well grind to a halt and require fixing.

Every day use outside of such conditions should be fine though, especially with regular maintenance. That's for clockwork. Hinges should require even less work.

>>52285562
Is the clockwork actually noted as having any downsides, or is it just a magic item themed as clockwork?

If the latter, then any gearing is going to be immune to normal rust, have the same durability and hardness as a magic item, etc, and the only necessary maintenance will be the same offscreen stuff as any other magic item.

>>52285507
>Sometimes I wonder if /pfg/ games are becoming too incestuous. I tend to see a lot of the same names across various games.

I think it's kinda inevitable.

The people get in and stay in games are the ones that are generally fun to play with, and are good at writing engaging, interesting applications.

Writing and people skills aren't something that develop overnight.

>>52285437
Part of the draw is that the clothes don't really fit right, 'cause the character is returning to adventuring after a long period of merchant work and motherhood.

There's a point where you've just got to stop changing and adding to your app and go with what your got, or at least accept that it's as good as it's gonna get. I think I've finally reached that point.

>>52285603
High Dex, high Con, high Cha, medium-high Strength. A large hit die, good fortitude save, and arcane spells (Bloodrager or Magus). Playing a Dwarf helps, and there's also a "Thick" trait introduced in Pathfinder Vices.

>>52285507
It's natural, GMs will eventually find players they like, and it's generally preferable to play with people you like than people you might like.

The hope is that there's enough cycling that no matter how incestuous the community gets it won't matter, because games will fill and then games will be hosted and the players already in games won't be able to apply because they're already in games.

>>52285623
This sounds about right to me.

>>52285623
Plus if you play with people that you generally get along well with and enjoy, then go off to GM your own game, you're likely to want to play with those people some more.

>>52285625
Is she married? Or a widow?
If the latter, is she looking for a new husbando?

Is her daughter of marriageable age?

>>52285623
So what you're telling me is DHB is never get into a game?

>>52285562
I feel like it COULD be a problem, but really only if things get bad like a massive sandstorm, or you don't prepare for it.

Like, I had this thinking about the Zeraphi in Torchlight. As far as I can tell, they're robots. But why would they cover themselves in basically mummywraps? Simple. To keep sand out of where it shouldn't be.

I mean, you don't want sand in your eyes, you wear goggles. You don't want sand in your mouth and nose, you wear a scarf or something over your face. You don't want sand in your robobits? Wrap that shit up, son.

Basically, I don't think it's that much of an issue. If the DM wants it to be at least partly an issue, make it a Survival check which varies depending on the weather/environment, since 'shit keeps getting in my robot parts' could be a problem in any kind of environment, really. So a person with good Survival would know how to best mitigate that.

>>52285649
I'm thinking she was either a single mother, or got amicably divorced about a decade after she married the human who got her pregnant because they kept having more and more conflicts over life planning/lifespans.

Yes. I can't decide if she has an entirely respectable banking job or is a guardswoman or the like herself.

>>52285345
Gonna go to bed in a few minutes, anyone have some last minute setting questions I could answer?

>>52285715
>>52285649
Also: a new husbando would be entirely fitting of her throwing thirty years of caution to the winds and breaking out her old adventurer duds.

>>52285732
>>52285715
>>52285649
On this note, who's the best man to be submitted to Legacy of Blood and Flame so far? I know we're all talking harem girls and belly dancers, but what kind of archetypes make for good arabian nights husbandos?

>>52285807
I like Otolvian

And has anyone noticed that Mellisan's backstory, for all its length, is in fact only like 10 sentences?

>>52285807
I kind of like Tomasz's "de facto cultural missionary" kind of thing.

>>52285835
Otolvian is well-written, but it doesn't feel like it's actually anchored in the region. Just kind of the city name mad-libsed in, you know?

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>>52284058

Reina

Keeping this brief, since (despite the hour+ I spent going over the app) it turns out I still don't have a ton to say about this character; which annoys the fuck out of me. Her backstory isn't particularly unique, but it's serviceable, and includes plenty of fun little character moments. Her personality is also decently developed, even if it falls into the same "awkwardness is my only flaw," trap as so many other PFG apps. Compatibility shouldn't be much of an issue, both personality-wise and mechanically. But despite all that, I don't like this character, and I can't really figure out *why.* Something just bugs me on a fundamental level, and no matter how much I try, I can't articulate it. The closest thing to a reason I can come up with is that the character feels... artificial. The pieces fit, but if you look closely you can see they were kinda forced to together. It's like the player studied all the successful apps, processed all the memes, the builds, the shipping, everything; then fed it into a giant computer and this is what came out.

The perfect /pfg/ game app.

Am I being fair? Hell no.
I know that, and I'm really sorry I can't give figure out how to give any actual feedback.

And with that I'm out for tonight. Hopefully going to do more LoBaF, along with some RotRK tomorrow.

>>52285807
I like Shanan, he's that sort of cocky kid with a heart of gold who's probably going to shape up into top tier husband material once he's gone on a quest and learned some greater responsibility.

>>52285857
Thank you for your time, ReviewAnon! I'll go over the app more to make it feel less artificial, although I have no idea how to make that happen.

>>52285848
You could say the same about Tomasz. His story could take place anywhere.

>>52285871
>I'll go over the app more to make it feel less artificial, although I have no idea how to make that happen.

I wouldn't.

There's no way of knowing if anyone else thinks the same way I do, or if what I'm thinking even has any basis in reality. I just figured I owed you an explanation for *why* I can't help you.

>>52285890
Hmmm. Well, alright! Enjoy your rest!

>>52285878
So who IS tied to the region?

>>52285878
His extended background isn't tied to the region, but it also clearly marks him as an outsider traveling there, as opposed to Wizardelf's always-there-but-doesn't-feel-like-it thing.

To me, anyway.

>>52285906
I don't think it's that important really, "Outlander" is a campaign trait. One that everybody is using.

>>52285906
Of the men?
Tarani was raised among a bandit clan, Shanan was born in Kelmarayn and grew up a devout Sarenite, Tatheryus is from somewhere in the wilderness (ever notice how ratfolk apps always seem to spend half their time explaining how ratfolk society works?), Juin is somehow a respected cavalryman despite having the Earning Your Freedom trait.

Otolvian might as well be from anywhere for how much it influences him, and everyone else just took Outlander for the initiative.

>>52285939
None of those things are unique to the setting, though.

But I guess it doesn't matter, Outlander is a thing as people have pointed out, and plenty of people are abusing it for initiative.

>>52285906
Shanan is cocks deep in Arabian Nights cliches.

>>52285807
>Earnest street rat with a heart of gold
>Haughty young prince who's trying too hard to fill big shoes
>Fiery genie-blooded warrior with gigantic melancholies and gigantic mirth
>Sleazy-seeming merchant who tries to hide his soft, sensitive side

>>52285939
I took outlander specifically because I wanted to be a knight.

>>52285982
This is just one anon's opinion, but looking over Tomasz's backstory, he seems almost a better fit for Visionary considering his motivations and upbringing.

>>52284863
I kind of feel like it's natural and needs no explanation that people would neglect a daughter purchased to patch up infertility.

>>52285995
I was debating that for some time. However, I thought visionary would stray too far into religious territory with visions from unknown powers and all that. He's supposed to be someone who doesn't factor things like religion into his helping people, that's just what he does. I dunno, I do feel like outlander is an obvious choice but I couldn't justify the other options to myself.

A player is playing a warlord with Golden Lion manevers that has the boost "Circling the prey" that basically gives every ally a free five foot step. Now, my question is - since he used it like this, whether the initator can use a five foot step, then use this boost (which is a swift action) to gain another five foot for free, basically making him move 10 feet and still then able to use a maneuver that is a standard action or a full attack option?

MILF-elf will probably have Visionary, but I can't decide if it would be funnier to have her a divine class and have explicit deific support despite being a bit nutty, or to not be a caster and have her be so Don Quixote deluded self-confident that she lucks into actual divine guidance.

>>52286112
Yes.

Keep in mind the action economy, though - that maneuver uses a swift action, and those are super valuable to PoW types.

Do you guys think it helps one's chances of getting in on a game to open a dialogue with the GM, or frequent a discord/IRC room?

I've never expected that it would as an applicant, nor thought that it should as a GM, but it does seem to be a halfway-decent method of figuring out if people have good chemistry or decent ideas for their character (without letting them clog up the threads).

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>>52285857
Hey, are you going to review Estelle?

>>52286302
It's quite useful, I think.

Even if you don't talk to them literally at all, watching them operate with other people would be very helpful in determining if you actually even wanna spend a couple hours a week with them in the first place.

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Tell me, /pfg/, just what IS Cheliax, in terms of real-life renaissance/medieval analogues? Is it Italy? Spain? Great Britain? Germany? What?

I tend to go with all of the above, personally, just taking the worst and most authoritarian parts of all of them.

>>52286081
>>52285995
eh, fuck it. You're not wrong

>>52286302
Detractors would say it encourages favoritism and cronyism.
Advocates would say it shows initiative and friendliness.

Tabletop games are social activities much more than formal arrangements, so I think it makes a lot of sense for GMs to favor picking players they think they get along better with.

>>52286341
They feel very Prussian to me

>>52286404
I mean that's basically the long and short of it.

People want the selection process to be 'fair'.

But it's not going to be. It can't be. It's a social game, and DMs are in no way at all beholden to keep the selection process 'fair'. They wanna have fun. It's easier to have fun in Pathfinder with friends. Ergo, they'll be more likely to pick their friends.

It's survival of the friendest.

>>52285857
I think Duster is next for LoBaF

>>52286445
Discord and IRC are open, everyone can enter and talk to GMs. If people don't want to do that then ok but they shouldn't bemoan others if they use that option.

>>52283964
>The bars are vertical, all I need do is climb.

>>52286630
>9 INT

So I can't take 10 on craft checks, not disgruntled because it's an amazing GM. How do I boost the checks with other stuff?

>>52286653
Bootstrap yourself.
Build tools with improvised tools.
Build a +2 masterwork item using tools.
Use that to build a +3 magical skill boosting item.
Make a +5 skillboosting item by scavenging your masterwork tools.

Did someone seriously just apply to PLD as an old man?

>>52286734
Master Roshi

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>get hammered by work
>take a break and try to get at least a couple more apps for Penguin Love Drum reviewed, maybe can finish the remainder
>7 new apps, all fleshed out
Ffffffff-
OK THEN

Bon-Bon (actual name: Airyna Dietou)

>when the world goes mad, people gotta laugh,or they'll go mad along with it.
>This orphan found people would laugh at her. So she made it her talent.
>Airyna earned money by people laughing at her. It's a living, even while there's less mirth as she goes.
>The tome didn't help much. She got those in the crowd away as far as she could, but the ones who got left behind weren't able to say much of anything anymore.
>She saw stopping this sort of terror as another way of keeping people from going insane.
>Ain't much laughter around her now.

I should treat each app as its own, Bon-Bon feels very similar to Mira Cashmere in quite a few ways, though both are distinct.
Both have a particular gimmick - Cashmere with her clothes and Bon-Bon with her jester style. Both are kindhearted and wish to help others. Both suffer from worries behind their facade of cheer or beauty. Both draw the eye, though for different reasons.
The main difference apart from the gimmick is that Bon-Bon manages to build and show her character in about half the space and words. This is not necessarily the best bonus - shorter does not always mean better - but I can say with confidence this app is short, snappy and to the point.

GOOD POINTS: Solid branding and memeabilty. Stands out as one of the more joyful characters. Easily understood motivations and simple to grasp. Straight and to the point.

BAD POINTS: The normal complaints apply - could make better use of special heritage such as her nightwalker traits - not integrated at all into the story, little named NPCs... That's all I got.

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>>52287013
Airyna has a simple background app, and frankly that's OK - either she'll hit or miss with the GM's tastes. Minimalism with a gimmick is a trick I've tried myself (though results have varied). As such, I'd be loathe to suggest any massive overhauls.

>Appeal: Varied/5 It really depends how much you like clowns.
>Backstory: 4/5 Short and to the point. Shows of what's salient, but not much else. Matches with personality.
>Compatibility: 4/5 Bard casting and will boosting is good, but Bon-Bon looks like she'll have to be defended somewhat in a battle.
>Setting accuracy: 3, 4/5 Kind of wavering on this. Jesters make sense in courts but something bothers me about the backstory. Possibly her moving to the capital so easily - one might need to spend a small fortune getting there safely and jestering in small community isn't going to pull in big bucks.
>Sexual potential: sexy clown outfit/5 [145.9] clown is honking in dorms again.

DEAD RELATIVES COUNT: 1 confirmed!

WHAT MIGHT BE DONE: As said, this one's a very compact app compared to quite a few others, and the directness of it is a benefit. The most I might do is slip a line in there explaining how she survived to get to the capital and picked up a bit of fighting skills, and perhaps flesh out the personality with a bit more fluff.

Other than that, it's pretty solid!

Let's see who else is up next!

>>52287040
Stop reminding me that I am on Spess hiatus.

>>52287013
I haven't made changes to Cashmere's app yet, but it's interesting how she's come across as benevolent and optimistic above all else.

Her morals are important to her, but she plays the social game, and tries to project her air of dignity and prestige first, with her kindness more hidden. (Insert blatant fancy clothes/outer appearances metaphor here)

The funniest thing about Cashmere is I just wanted to play a fun caster and I only realised Silksworn's inherent lewdness after building it

Keep up the good work!

>>52285857
>The perfect /pfg/ game app
>Team dog

Why is this so familiar?

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>>52287054
[sad trombone honks vanishing into the distance]
>>52287134
Coming to think about it, Bon Bon is a tad closer to Sage in current personality. But yes, it's possibly due to her "perfect appearance" aura that was presented. Such a wonderfully warm and beautiful person would of course be kind and gracious and caring of others... right?

Right?

https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/4760286/character-apps/?pageforid=4801917#post-4801917

ITS HAPPENING

>>52287490
>mfw i already delayed my cutoff date for WWW

fuck thats a bit annoying

>>52285270
No. You can't critical with skill checks.

>>52287581
Probably still a smart move. He's just preventing last minute apps and selecting on the day od bamboozling

>>52287644
yeah, just mildly annoying for me, you know, like stepping on a lego

>Voip okayed putting polearm dancer on an aether blade
My dick is diamonds

>>52287692
I really don't understand why you give a shit

>>52287708
>make homebrewed setting for game, post it up and ask for applicants
>but nobody came

>other guy posts up homebrewed setting for game and asks for applicants willing to bend over
>has to stop people applying because there's so many good apps just begging for it

Wouldn't you be annoyed if no-one wanted to play in your setting, but instead wanted to play in Pontificating Longarm Destriers?

>>52286734

How else are you supposed to have a daughter that turns into the Giving Tree?

>>52287836
I want to play in your game, Anon. I'm working on on app to submit this weekend.

>>52287836
Writing the app rn, just having to deal with class shit too.

>>52287836

Well hey, I applied because I had a concept I liked.

I'm going to apply to yours when something comes to me!

>>52287836
I mean i'm more annoyed because I pushed back the date to avoid conflicts with PLD, not because people are applying to PLD instead of mine

Whew lad people think you're me and it makes me look super salty.

I'm just annoyed cause i don't like changing things around and I'd feel like a jackass if I moved the cutoff date back up

>>52287878
>>52287872
>>52287865
I just want you to know i appreciate you all, I didn't expect apps to come in fast because there's a lot to digest about my stuff and probably a lot of questions people want to ask.

>>52287865
>>52287872
>>52287878
Just a note, I'm >>52287836
but I'm not the GM of WWW! That's >>52287900 not me.
Sorry about that, www GM!

>>52287922
no problem duder

>>52287922
>www GM
So... he's the laughing man you say...

Interesting.

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>>52283522
Are there any new*, not 3pp, archetypes that gives Summoner-like summon monsters to different classes? Like Monster Tactician archetype for Inquisitor.

* "new" - as in "anything, published during 2016-2017 year". I haven't followed new books for a long time now.

Also, maybe there was any strong melee-focused classes\archetypes\builds, born from materials, published during mentioned "new*" period?

>>52287696
But...
Weapon Finesse works on it normally?

Are you planning to switch hit with Aether Blade and normal polearms for some reason?

>>52287922
So... if you want people to apply to your setting, who are you?

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Excuse me, but I have a quick question: how exactly do prepared casters work? Do I prepare a list at the begining of the day, and can cast anything from that list up to my daily allotment of spells (so I prepare Charm Person and Grease, and can cast any combination of those a total of X times)? Or do I have to prepare N number of spells to only cast N times (I prepare 2x Charm Person and 2 Grease)?

Have a picture to catch your attention.

>>52288080
> Or do I have to prepare N number of spells to only cast N times (I prepare 2x Charm Person and 2 Grease)?
This

If you have 4 slots, you can prepare 2 Charm Person spells and 2 Grease spells. And cast Charm Person only twice during that day

>>52288060
Polearm dancer turns your weapon into a double weapon

Also stripper pole memes

>>52288080
The latter. If you have 4 first-level spells in a day and 2 second-level spells per day, you can prepare 2x(first level spell), 1x(other first level spell), 1x(other first level spell), and 2x(second level spell), or something similar

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>>52288080
let's say I'm a wizard, preparing my spells for the day. I have four level 0 spell slots, four level 1 spell slots, and two level 2 spell slots.

As I can cast cantrips endlessly without burning out my level 0 slots, I need not prepare multiple of the same spells in said slots. As such, I prepare the following for my cantrips:
>Prestidigitation
>Mending
>Light
>Detect Magic
this means these abilities are usable at will.

In my level 1 spell slots, I prepare
>Sleep
>Summon Monster 1
>Summon Monster 1
>Charm Person
This means I can cast Summon Monster 1 twice today, while I can only cast Charm Person and Sleep once today.

In my level 2 spell slots, I prepare:
>Scorching Ray
>Summon Monster 2
this means I can cast each of these spells once today.

If I have any spells left over when I prepare my spells again tomorrow morning, I have two options - i can either abandon the spells I have prepared, or I can just refill the slots I've used up. this is very useful in the event that something prevents me from preparing spells tomorrow morning, such as if someone destroyed my spellbook.

>>52288134
https://pathminder.github.io/feats/polearm-dancer/

...Does it?

>>52288150

That girl has four arms!

>>52288074
Ah, I was voicing why I believed WWW GM might be annoyed. I'm not currently advertising my setting for games.

>>52288080
You have a number of spellslots. Say, two 1st level slots and one 2nd level slot.

You choose 3 spells at the start of the day, matching to your spellslots.

So, Charm, Grease, and Rope Trick.

You can cast each of the above once and once only.

So, you can charm one dude, grease another dude, then rope trick the fuck out.

You CANNOT cast charm 3 times, or grease or rope trick. You set up your loadout, cast each spell once, and then you're done.

Next day, you can change which spells you can cast. So, you choose today two burning hands spell but leave your second level slot open.

You can cast Burning Hands twice, and you can sit down for 15 minutes and choose which spell you want in your last slot whenever you want, so you can cast Comprehend Languages if you need it, or Detect Landsharks if you want to be flexible.

Hope that helps!

>>52288080
Also, there is an Arcanist class, where spellcasting works similar to your first assumption.

>>52288156
what part of Wizardry In Progress are you not getting?

>>52288131
>>52288137
>>52288150
>>52288159

Thanks guys. This is my first adventure into the world of 3.PF and some things aren't written very clearly. At least I know enough to stay away from martial characters, even though I would love to play a swarthy, sarcastic swashbucker, but the sheer number of feats I would need just to work as I want it is enormous.

Oh, well. Druids can be fun, right? Oh, one more thing. For a Druids nature bond, should I take an animal or a domain?

>>52288156
Nah, the book has two hands.

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>>52288194
Swashbucklers can be done, but only if you have a decent level of system mastery. Definitely not something to play as a first attempt. good call.

Animal companions are the much better early game options; if you hit level 11 or so, they fall by the wayside next to the power of domains, but until that point the animal companion is generally a better pick, and isn't vulnerable to the vagaries of things like spell resistance or antimagic zones.

>>52288220
Interesting. We're starting at level 4, and I don't expect it to last to level 11. I think I'll take the animal, and if by some fluke of the universe this game lasts a long time, I'll roll up a new character.

>>52288265
If you want my recommendation, grab the War Bull animal companion - it's one of the very very few animal companions that gets to large size by level 4, and riding around on a yak or buffalo sounds hilarious.

also, don't feel the need to swap that late into the game - by that point you'll probably really enjoy the character, and you don't lose much power at all for sticking with a companion over a domain.

>tfw your only struggle right now is figuring out what maneuvers you want to pick up and swap out

>>52288347
Name the discipline you want to focus in, and the others you have.

I'll help.

Or, this also helps:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hYrnghrSe7kMOko-aNiS0HTVlSJnUBkvHD2dmg0omGY/edit?

>>52288357
>Focus
Not focusing in any, actually. I have been picking up ones that serve thematics.
>PC is a ZS warder, hard wall defense with explosive offense when need be
>which has a lot, I've saved the one guy like 3 times in a 2 month long campaign
My disciplines that I have been using are:
Iron Tortoise
Primal Fury
Scarlet Throne
Eternal Guardian
Even Eternal Throne is an outlier for me, and I don't plan on going far into it unless character plot leads to her embracing "mysterious" power.
I've been using
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k8AO1HL5H-BASvWdx3XsHfyTHHGdb0iBJHmt6cRmj_M/edit
as a explanation of maneuvers in practice. Would you like me to bring up my current selection?

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>>52288049
nichts? nada? nothing?

>>52288154
Shit I think i was thinking of bladed brush?

KEK

Puella DM closing apps after having a public nervous breakdown for the last few days and Keli's player withdrawing from applications because she grew more disgusted with the GM.

I can't wait for this game to collapse, for logs to get leaked, and for the salt to spill everywhere.

>>52288472
You're thinking of Spear Dancing Style.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/spear-dancing-style-combat-style/

>>52288553
You forgot about DHB's live suicide stream and 2hu being nuked by North Korea in an attempt to pre-emptive strike to stop him from playing, resulting in millions dead but /pfg/'s honour preserved.

All of these things happened and I am definitely not making it up.

>>52288553
Youre late to the party shitposter-kun. No one will believe your lies.

>>52288553
Proof?

Noob question. Do feats that affect attacks, I.e. power attack, work with PoW maneuvers?

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>>52287013
>>52287040
Thanks for the advice and review! I'll certainly look into expanding some of the details.

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>>52288553
>I can't wait for this game to collapse, for logs to get leaked, and for the salt to spill everywhere.

I'm beginning to think applying for that game because grimdark is fun was a bad idea.

>>52288648
PoW maneuvers are attacks.

Therefore, yes, feats affect them in the ways they say they affect them (such as weapon focus applying to attacks with a greatsword or whatever)

>>52288616
Join the discord and look for it.

Hint : shitposter-kun is making it all up.

>>52288594

>2hu being nuked by NK

Best timeline

>>52288663
I decided not to apply when the GM bitched at me for asking about setting fluff. I'm glad that this was apparently the correct move.

>>52288675
>>52288675
i don't even know what the discord issss

>>52288675

I thought pinko did publicly withdraw though and got roasted for 'being dramatic' though

>>52288663
Why? Literally nothing said here is true.

>>52288663
>I'm beginning to think that applying to participate in an unstable DM's blatant attempt to set up an all-you-can-rape ERP buffet for himself was a bad idea.
Gee, you think?

>>52288698
rape fiesta*

>>52288683
>application process involves juldgimg you for your ability to match tone
>ask for a cheat sheet
What the fuck did you expect?

>>52288698
>>52288683

I mean, when you put it that way it should've seemed obvious to me.

But here I was, going "Ooh, I've got a concept and a story I want to tell" and being willfully ignorant of the signs!

Oh well, my character's a fairly non-sexual man so I doubt I'm going to get selected.

>>52288663
This is the real grimdark, anon.
The horror of man turning against their fellow man over petty squabbles.

Puella GM just wanted to ERP with some new people, goddamn.

>>52288717
>ask for help
>WHAT THE FUCK KILL YOURSELF

ok./

>>52288614
>>52288675
>>52288693

Top quality samefagging Vult.

>>52288722

There's a whole tg community on flist dude, and they're on /soc/, too.

A number of lewdgame app characters have shown up on flist.

>>52288676
Fuck Pinoy.

>>52288722
>Puella GM just wanted to ERP with some new people, goddamn.
Then he should have just gone to f-list instead of setting up a sham game to lure people into noncon ERP.

>>52288711
Seems more like a rape siesta.

>>52288741
How good is F list /tg/ at 3pp PF charop?

>>52288717

What are some applications that really nail the tone of the campaign?

>>52288751

F-List /tg/ is low energy and rubbish, it's only got maybe 1-2 games recruiting at any given time and they're all garbage.

>>52288752

Probably the slut apps with struck-through "ignore the story and wreck me" notes.

I'll admit it: those things get me ultra-hard.

But I'd hardly choose those people to play with.

>>52288751
Awful, on average. I saw someone trying to make an interesting self-buffing... sylvan sorcerer? Something of the sort. Talking about PF in the PF channel is met with laughter, and actually knowing what you're talking about is met with disgust.

>>52288746
>Sham game
>Luring people

I mean.
I'm applying for Puella because I wanted a fresh dose of rape ERP and I have no fucking clue how anyone missed the signs that was exactly what the game is.
It was advertised as that right on the front page of the LFG, saying not everyone will be interested, and its custom rules only reinforce that.

Were people really somehow believing that there wouldn't be heavy noncon and ERP themes?

>>52288778
Look through past threads. There have been people read: Vult saying that it's not all about rape and that it's a srs gremderk story.

>>52288778
Apparently?

>>52288778
i think people got a lot more turned off at the DM manipulating people to basically ERP with him harder and shit

>>52288752
By definition, the NPCs

Shit, Cat is literally the basic app to the game (discord confirned she has a few hidden aspects for discovery in game)

>>52288778
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUFWXpYJKaI

>>52285248
Yeah, I mean it wasn't 100% what I expected but it's more about the revolution being slightly more light hearted and just the teensiest bit goofier than how it's sometimes done. A lot of the concepts work for that at least. I like a lot of the characters submitted and I'll work with what I've been given.

>>52285231
Well, I've been discussing his concept with him at length and he hasn't gotten round to submitting it yet due to being bus-
>>52285242
Well that's not entirely true, it's predicated on him providing an application that I like and is up to my standards, if his application isn't any good then he no-
>>52285284
Alright look. 2hu is getting zero preferential treatment during the game itself, he's not even getting much in the way of preferential treatment when it comes to his own app being selected. I like what he's put forwards and want it in my game. If I didn't like his character I wouldn't be adding him.

You know, considering all the shit-flinging that's going on here and people talking about how "Oh I'm bailing from the game" or "Well the game's fucked now" I've yet to receive a direct complaint from any actual players or have anyone drop out.

>>52285261
That's pretty funny though.

>>52288793
If that's true I'm guessing it's because they wanted to save face because of how hard vocal anons bitch at erp players, and it ended up backfiring on them because now they're attracting people who don't want erp at all.

>>52288819
>not expecting /pfg/ to shitfling like mad, especially when 2hu is involved.

>>52288800

The sudden addition of DR and a conveniently out of budget loan to afford DR piercing materials you could get by erping with the gm before the game even began was a huge turning point.

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>>52288778
>Were people really somehow believing that there wouldn't be heavy noncon and ERP themes?
I think some people originally thought that it was mostly going to be grimdark with the ever present threat of monster rape, but the first time that Vult has consistently changed the rules to ensure that rape happens should have dispelled that sort of thought right quick. If people think Vult is going to stop changing the rules to fulfill his rape fetish when they sneak a diamond dogs character into the game, they're likewise retarded.

>>52288846
i still can't believe that shit happened

>>52288832

Vult had his first app thread literally deleted by roll20 for being too obscene. He then toned it down with the whole "certain subsection of a certain community" line and more subtle talk.

I can see the confusion.

>>52288832
As he's said in discord. Rape isnt fun if you don't resist.

He wants a game where the players struggle and try to achieve things only to get overwhelmed and maybe get a shred of hope

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>>52288819
>>52288746
>>52288722
Someone's salty over the fact that Pink Dicksucking Lips has got more quality apps than some other games combined and are now doing high level damage control so they can feel better their game is getting shit quality apps.

That, or they're players in Purple Deep Lewds trying to discourage others from applying so they have a better chance of getting in. Either's quite possible, but both are twisting anything said to be a caricature of what's actually happening, which is a bunch of people are interested in Vult's "everyone gets a free rape" setting.

>>52288862

Except the rules literally mindbreak you into a nonresisting slut if you resist and if you do it too much you become an npc and the only way to remove corruption is sex with npcs

See the racket?

>>52288800
>>52288846
The DR was there from the start, just not made totally clear. The loan option was added after it was pointed out how much of the starting budget a magic weapon took, so they came up with a compromise.

>It's an ERP game, if you join I hope you'd be willing to ERP
>I'll allow extra starting gold with some ERP which is what you signed up to do anyway

>Anons lose their shit

??

>>52288867
its PLD, not PDL you fucking retard

>>52288880
>suck my dick for a magic item

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>>52288877

I think I made a terrible mistake applying for that game.

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>>52288877
>the only way to remove corruption is sex with npcs
Really? It shows that you just can't read then.

>NIGHTWALKER TEMPLATE
>For every point of HP magically healed, gain 1 Corruption.
>When you gain Corruption and it meets or exceeds your Maximum HP, you must make a Will save, DC {10+Corruption-Max HP}. On a failure, you become incapacitated with madness until after an overnight rest is completed. On success, you have the option to initiate a rage as though you were an equivalent level barbarian. When the rage ends, you will be incapacitated with madness for a short period.
>Resting for an hour at night is the equivalent of resting the whole night normally. Resting the whole night restores all HP. Resting all day removes all Corruption.
>DR 1/Moonsilver (magic)

>resting all day removes all corruption

ANTI-ERP SALTYFAGS BTFO

>>52288892
So pull your app, there are plenty of lewd games on /pfg/ that are recruiting where you don't have to turn into the DM's fuckpuppet. If the DM ERPing a rape scene on you every session doesn't sound like a good time, this is not the game for you.

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>>52288877
>the only way to remove corruption is sex with npcs
>Resting all day removes all Corruption.

>>52288927
>resting all day removes all corruption
>being so retarded that he thinks that the GM will actually give them a break from the monster rape for a day

t. vult

>>52288942
>>52288927

Isn't corruption that causes transformations permanent?

Isn't the difficulty set so you require transformations to remain competent?