Age of Sigmar General /aosg/

You forgot to remove the last edition from your edition

I think we need a new edition

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Gaze upon the only Death Battletome we'll ever have.

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>>52263325

>>52263253

Bitching? You dumb cow, I'm laughing at the sheer insanity of a comment so deranged. Nope, he's a manchildren that's whining! We don't want him, instead let's whine about khorne getting stuff! Bile is better than getting a crack at someone being a turd independently on whether or not they like our system!

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whatre you guys working on?

Got some gryph hounds put together

>>52263414
Funnily enough, Vargheists are generally better than Crypt Horrors or Flayers. Better than Horrors with movement and rend, better than Flayers because their effectiveness doesn't hinge on the opponent having <7 bravery.

Only real advantage Crypt units have is their Courtiers.

>>52263544
For real, man. I'm working on an all-soulblight list at the moment and they seem pretty vicious. Gonna pick up SC! FEC next payday and see if I can swap the ghouls with my friend for something to get my hands on a dragon and some wingboys.

>>52263515
Kitbashing a shitload of spare empire, bretonnian and dark elf cavalry sets into 15 blood knights for aforementioned Soulblight core. Might post pics when my phone isn't dead / when I'm not crippled with shame at my pre-paint conversion attempts.

>>52263515
Maw Crusha.
The fat dragon is 90% done just got to finish off the mega boss.
Also have zero idea how I am going to transport this fat bastard.

Saw some new Dwarven art. Looked like 40k at first glance.
The new dwarven spacesuits are like power armour held in somesort of stasis chamber

Playing my first ever game of AOS tomorrow with the Ironjawz Thunderfist Battalion versus a shitload of reddit rats. What am I in for?

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>>52263789
Makes me think of Fallout, honestly.

>>52263789
>>52264432

LITERALLY

S Q U A T S
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>>52264465
Not a bad thing.

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Scale, if you were interested.

>>52264379
Thunder blitz is a useless trap (I know because I bought it).
Can't use the formation in matched play. Can't use the giant with just your Ironjaws in matched play either...
Keep your boss near the brutes for rerolls.
Wierdnob will not have enough boyz around to have a good chance for Foot of Gork. So just mystic shield all the time.
Gore Gruntas suck. Send around a flank and charge single characters or other REALLY WEAK shit. I have had 10 man plague monk units beat the shit out of a 3 man unit.... it's pathetic really.
Giant... throw it forward it might do something who knows.

>>52264547
Also ONLY pig iron choppas on gore Gruntas.
Never.
Take.
The.
Other.
Option.

>>52264547
>Thunderfist is a useless trap. Can't use this formation in matched play. Can't use the giants with just your Ironjawz in matched play either..

I know, don't worry. I'm only playing with my buddy, and we're fine with it not being entirely legal. Plus, I plan to buy the SC! or an Ardboyz box at the store tomorrow.

Thanks for the other advice. I've heard Gore-Gruntas are really bad. It makes me almost want to forego the Start Collecting! and just buy the Ardboyz and Warchanter.

>>52264521
So are are on 25mm, not 32mm.
Or is 32mm just for the Ballon boys and XBOXHUEG GUNZ guys?

>>52264432
Too bad the actual minis are covered in too much detail. Could be the paint jobs but the art looks great.

The Ovwrlords were mentioned in the very first book as mechanized sky armies. That leaves the shadow daemons as the only force mentioned but not yet revealed

>>52264521
Are GSC literally the dorfs of 40k

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>>52264631
It is. These look better.

>>52264589
Having one unit in the army isn't too bad, if only for having one unit that isn't chained to a hero to move faster than 4 inches a damn turn.
Any more than that and you are hurting yourself.
And be careful with Hardboyz. They are another trap. Take two units of them as screens and objective campers. But their damage output is weak (and they need constant warchanter buffs to get decent).
Brutes are your money makers. Always take claws. Ten orruk brutes squads, with warchanter, megaboss, and mystic shield kill everything... but they live or die on battle shock. Risk a WAAGH only if you charge two things you absolutely NEED to kill. In every other circumstance- the brutes really need the inspiring presence

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>>52264682
>don't bump your head helmets.

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>>52264694

>>52264670
>two units of them
10 each, right? I know that too many 'ardboyz is probably a bad idea.

Jeez, I feel like so much of the Ironjawz range is...bad. Even though I love Ardboyz from an aesthetic angle.

At what point should I buy the Maw-Krusha (and field the megaboss, fuck Gordrakk).

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>They've started adding Tomb Kings units to different Death sub-factions
What does it mean, anons?

>>52264644
Why would you be upset if they did this? They were never explicitly killed during the End Times, so they could easily be written back into the setting.

>>52263325
How to cruel to remind us. The sadness, is unbearable.

>>52263515
Chaos Dorfs, but I won't post em to avoid that one guy who keeps getting mad about me posting em.

>>52264752
explain, where is this info?

>>52264785
Post em anyways. Fuck that faggot

>>52264785
Go for it dude, don't let his autism stop you.

Is this decent or will i get dunked on by mortal wounds?

Allegiance: Chaos

Orghotts Daemonspew (260)
5 x Putrid Blightkings (180)
5 x Putrid Blightkings (180)
5 x Putrid Blightkings (180)
1 x Chaos Warshrine (200)
- Mark of Chaos: Nurgle

Total: 1000/2000

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>>52264846
>>52264813

>>52264853
its gud but you have no mobility to cap nigjectives. if you are doing 2000 points get:
Either 20-40 plaguebearers OR 20-40 nurgle warriors (their shields give a save against mortal wounds, plus you have the warshrine)
Also get a plagueclaw catapult to kill hoard armies and heal your nigs.

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>>52264862
Looks good, man. Maybe clean up the face on the shield, otherwise it looks solid.

>>52264862
why gold? do bronze or iron u fagget. Otherwise it looks like a Samecast Eternal

>>52264798
Check the AoS app. They have added the Lichepriest to the Deathmage faction, and most of the skeleton lines of the Tomb Kings to the Death Rattle. Notable exceptions being that none of the name characters, nor the reanimates have been added.

Although, just checking the Freepeoples does make me question whats going on, as a lot of their old hero's and Brettonian units got added to that as well.

>>52265046
Duncan plays brets so they are submitting to his will.

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>>52265027
>he thinks every stormcast is gold

>>52264968
Thanks man, yeah I'll try and fix the shield a bit more in the final cleaning up bit.
>>52265027
It's Ur-Gold they stole from Fyreslayers and forged into armor as a fuck you to Fyreslayers. It's tinted green cus they also smelt down innocent people to bind their souls into it, and that evil shit tints it green cus chaos n shit.

>>52265076
>He doesn't realize 90% of GW Sigmarine art/models are gold

>>52265046
My guess? Updated models of Settra and repacking of the good Tomb Skellies and units while also updating a few other Tomb stuff/making new Tomb stuff down the line.

WE WUZ BACK BITCHES

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>>52263515
Finished my maw krusha tonight. Gonna start the Megaboss now.

>>52265046
skeleton units have the deathrattle keyword

bretonnians all have the free peoples keyword

>>52264734
Yup. 10 each.
They get no bonus for more guys so keep them at ten (no idea why..) Also ONLY banner of plus 2 bravery. Once they get in combat they tend to sit around and make your enemy kill every. Last. One.
I know the feels though anon. I love all the new Ironjaw models... it's just they feel so Damn constricted with their lack of ANY battle line the SECOND you take anything not ironjaw...
A Maw Crusha fits into a 2000 point list pretty well. Under that, and you are hurting ourselves on either lack of units, or lack of bluffing hero's (warchanter, wierd nob). I love the model, but he should definitely be 450 points at max. Maybe even 400.

Ok, fellow death players. What do we legitimately believe the next/ first real death release will be? Not what we hope, or what we want. But what would GW actually do?

>inb4 slavfag shitposter

>>52265076
Samecast eternals are not gay only because they are gold, but because all Lamecast eternals look the same. What kind of person plays Snorecast eternals when they could play Freepeoples, seraphon or something with history and which is more rare to see on the table?

>>52265103
4 out of 19 with pictures are primarily gold.

http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Stormhost

>yfw GW starts resurrecting dead WFB characters and units to troll all the people who set fire to their armies.

>>52263212
Question: What size is the minimum point amount for you to have to fun with? I mean, at what point do you feel that the game really excels at what it's trying to do, and is the suggested game size.

>>52265145
cool now try the GW website or look at a battle tome

>>52265148
> all the people who set fire to their armies.
You mean the one guy, who now plays Sigmarines?

>>52265157
>try the GW website

Because the ones on GW's site are the same fucking stormhost.

This is like complaining that all space marines are blue because GW only uses Ultramarines.

>>52265134
a person who wants future releases? Because, lets be honest. GW didn't keep those armies around because they plan to update them, they kept them around to not lose ALL the fantasy players. Ya, they might see battletomes, but the newest models will all be new factions. At least for the next long while.

My stormcast have gotten more new models in the past year than Freepeoples will see in 5.

>>52265117
Looks awesome anon
paint the ear rings bro. They aren't flesh it's triggering me.
And that eye is the shit! Love the color scheme

>>52265110
>t. faggot that refuses to accept reality
B-Bernie s-still has a chance, you guys.

>>52265145
... the new box.... with colored sprues... has them PRE-COLORED GOLD. Next youll say not all khorne is red?

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>>52265174
>This is like complaining that all space marines are blue because GW only uses Ultramarines.

>>52265133
I'd guess Ghosties, but that's out of nothing more than random "Why not?"

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>>52265174
I have a ton more, but I think you get the point.

>>52265133
Something with Deathlords, an army of morghasts mabye?

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>>52265183
Empire for example already has a huge selection to choose from.
Fuck man, even if I WANTED to play snorecast, Id use the book and rules but convert EVERYTHING from bret or empire models to not have to use space-golems in my games.

>>52265208
>>52265222
Anon, come on. They have their own codexes. The stormhosts don't. If they did, they'd have their own sections too.

I meant generic space marines.

>>52265199
And what, you play with uncoloured plastic?

>>52265133
New tomb kings with giant bone constructs.

>>52265133
Bone constructs.

>>52265263
>not liking art deco super men.

>>52265263
Fair, though personally I like the look of the stormcast, but I have a rock hard dick for expressionless faces in masks/armour. And it still has to be said, that HUGE selection of empire stuff, will die out. They'll get squatted like Bretonnia and Tomb Kings did eventually, to make way for GW's new models. Which will be stormcasts, or another new AoS faction.

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>>52265269
This is from the 1st Company Task Force, a generic formation for space marines.

>>52265318
Pls staph

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>>52265269
From the Centurion Assault Squad

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>>52265199
>Next youll say not all khorne is red?

Also yes, not all Khorne is primarily red.

I like bone as a primary colour.

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>>52265269
Land raider redemer

>>52265326
I'll stop, but get the point, even in 40k GW doesn't just use Ultramarines to represent marines. Unlike in AoS with Sigmarines,

>>52265263
>huge selection to choose from
>already large swathes of the line have been cut from the store
But please, tell me about that great Reiksguard bundle that you can buy from GeeDubs, or that slick Valten miniature.

>>52265330
>>52265318

None of this changes the fact that most Stormhosts aren't primarily gold.

>>52265355
We are talking about representation man.

>>52265372
I wasn't. I was talking about in lore.

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>Playing stormcast instead of Gobbocast
With the AoS starter box and 1 box of gobbos you can put 2 gobbos per base and have a full army.

>>52265386
But he wasn't. Your both right man, just let it go.

>>52265389
I fucking love you if you made those, Anon.

>>52265404
no me but I will be stealing his idea.
You cut the gauntlet with the hammer off at the wrist and attach it to the gobbo, then greestuff mushrooms for height and stack the shields if needed.

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>>52265389
That's dumb.

I LOVE IT

>>52265422
>Wrist
At the elbow not wrist, my bad

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So why all the hate for the clans? And why call them "Reddit rats"? I actually got into warhammer after some friends got me to play vermintide, which was what introduced me to my ratkin, and I got the sc pestilens soon after it released (good timing). One thing I love about the rats is that, especially for pestilens, just don't give a shit about the war around them. They just want to watch the world rot and brew their plagues (I love how they stab nurgle in the back).

>Why hate
>stab in the back
you answered you own question. They are shifty heebs

Have night gobbos shown up in the new fluff yet?

>>52265567
So is tzeentch

>>52265567
Skaven are modelled after italians and germans.

>>52265567
my greatest dissapointment is that Thanquol didnt stab archaon in the back at the absolute worst moment during end times

>>52265594
Ok, first off all there is the obvious connection between well poisoning and clan
pestilence. Now if that link isn't strong enough for you the religious link is enforced
by making them plague monks. Who engage in biological warfare.

The next obvious one is the sneaky aspect. Jewish stereotypes are often sneaky and
cunning. betraying their fellow man and doing anything to advance themselves.
Now isn't that just clan eshin and regular Skaven politcal culture?

The next obvious link is the stereotype of the gold obsessed Jew. Now what
substance are are Skaven obsessed with? Warpstone! Duh... They will do anything
for it as the Jewish stereotype. Do you seen any other race so obsessed with a
substance? and do you see any other stereotype so obsessed with a substance? I
think not.

Jews have beards. And rats have fur.... Possible link there.

The older Jewish stereotype is that Jews live in flea infested slums. And the Skaven
live in lairs. And lairs does not imply sanitation. As a matter of fact they dwell in
sewers! Much like Jews hiding from the Gestapo.

Now compare the icon above all of your standard bearers. It is a triangle! Just add
one more and you have got the star of David!

Ok the Skaven are monotheistic, believing only in the horned rat. they have their
council of 13... ...or more like the council of Zion!

>>52264948
Doesnt that break the mortal allegiance?

>>52265656
Theres no point to have it.
you don't get anything with it other than BK being battleline. Just go grand alliance Chaos because the plaguebearers or warriors will be your battleline at that point.

>>52265624
Gold obsessed, bearded fureslayers

Case and point

>>52265624
Garbage.
Skaven originate from not-italy.
Skaven are prone to running away, machiavellian politics, murder and backstabbing like italians.
They have an elite unit called Stormvermin.
They use a 3 spoked swastika rune among their many runes.
Stormvermin have a roman design.
All tunnels (roads) lead to Skavenblight (Rome)
They have crazy divinci inventions.
Skaven women are just for breeding.

And so on.

>>52265713
They use poison gas warfare like ww1 Germans.

>>52265713
I think there is more evidence for heeb than wop.
- Vile, backstabbing cunts
- Huge noses
- Hebrew names
- No homeland of their own
- Secretly invade other civilisations, plotting to bring them down from the inside
- Anti-semitic propaganda frequently compares Jews to rats

>>52265733
Skaven's homeland is the marsh in Tilea.
>built Capital on a marsh.
Literally Rome.

I did my second introductory game against some guy with a competitive list in AoS for 1k points for a league here. He was skaven and I was stormcast. I only had 3 units of liberators, 1 squad of retributors, 1 prosecutors(celestial hammers), lord celestant, and one more hero that I cant remember. I got wiped out by mortal wounds and some stupid wheel of doom. It was going good until dude basically wrecked my army with the doom wheel and then I was done. Was the list I played even any good? It was supplied to me by the GW store owner since I only own 40k guys. Also would this be a decent indicator of an experience with dwarves? I was thinking of getting the new guys since I love their models so much

>>52265816
>Playing Samecast Eternals
You lost because your army is shit and your taste is shit.
Yes play dwarves instead so you can have some self respect and people don't call you faggot under their breath. The GW manager gave you that list because you are basically playing the space marines of AoS.

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Sera anon who goes to my local store bought me a model, grey seer thanquol and boneripper, who says lizards and rats aren't good friends

Thanks anon, you helped me more then you know

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>>52265775
Back to /pol/ with you

>>52265865
>dwarves
Newfag detected.

>>52265938
>calling someone /pol/ for a well reasoned lore factual rebuke to anti-semitism.

>>52265816
Pretty bad list sempai, especially if the Skaven player was running heavy Can Skyre, which I can only assume due to the DOOMWHEEL and mortal wound output. Stormcast's work best when utilizing their huge toolbox of tools, weapons and abilities to their advantage. However, in straight up fights, Stormcast are really only good at soaking up damage, and quite a few units can be quite pillowfisted unfortunately. But all Stormcast need to be competitive is to move beyond your basic starter box set. Pick a playstyle, and build up to it.

>>52265959
>Implying anyone gives a shit about anti-semitism when literally every race has been discriminated against

Who gives a flying fuck.

>>52265816
Don't listen to the other anon. Here's the thing: Stormcast have artefacts that lets them save vs. mortal wounds. On a 6+, but still. Skaven are great at putting out mortal wounds, so you need to know how to play your army.

Stormcasts have a tool called scions of the storm, and plenty of high mobility units. On the other hand, their units are pretty expensive, though tanky vs. normal wounds.

I'd say when you are up against high mortal wounds army, keep your dudes off the table or spread them out so they can't bomb everything out in turn 1. Keep a bunch of guys off the table and deepstrike in to troubleshoot the table.

Skaven needs to get close to drop mortal wounds, and their artillery are fairly squishy.

>>52266241
Fuck off

>>52265155
Honestly any size 1000+. I've played 2k games. I played a 2v2 where all players bring 2k points. I played a bunch of 1k games or 2k games but 2v2 where each player brings 1k. I've done weird games like yesterday I played a game where it was a 3v3 and each play brought about 1600 points and pretty much it wasn't asshole army list time it was allowed (a play only had bret knights and dark elf cold ones and malekith. Clearly not battle line, but w/e it was allowed.) The game feels pretty well balanced outside of a few armies (stormcast, sylvaneth to name a few) but we will see once more stuff comes out and battletomes are released. Most games of Sigmar i've had have been a good time, though I am an individual that can get quite heated over stupid shit, or can feel sour over an opponent bringing literally uncounterable stuff.

>>52266275
You first fucker, no one gives a flying fuck about how jews were "oppressed" in history when literally every race has been slaves or been genocided at least once.

>>52266308
Fuck off

>>52265117
Is that a texture base paint?

>>52265865
Someone get this kid to a hospital!
He's delirious and imagining that someone asked his opinion!

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>>52265193
I am mi;d;y triggered by this aswell.

>>52266527
Im not even jewish you retard, this has nothing to do with Age of Stormcast.

>Sigmar players literal nazis
>Fantasy players are supposedly the grognards

>>52266709
>shiny art deco golden men not nazi wank material
Where are the golden women oy.

>>52266709
Fuck off nigger

>>52266729
Daughters Draconia

Mentioned in Stormcast Eternals 2.0 Battletome.

>>52266766
Really fantasy sisters? Wowee!

>>52266778
You asked, don't get snippy if you don't like the answer.

>>52266823
I wasnt being snippy.

>>52266833
That read very sarcastic.

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Dark elves when?

>>52265117
Love it anon. Has a very comic-book feel to it. Like a flat 2D but brought to 3D. In a good way. I'm drunk. Leave me alone.

>>52266862
I'm keen to see what GW does with the concept if they release the models.

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>>52266874
Soon.

>>52266894
I have a theory GWs is about to release a new generation of attractive female sculpts to get some of the KDM pie. SoS first, SoB and maybe these DD girls.

>>52266308
>every race has been genocided at least once
>humans still exist

Pick a single option.

>>52263515
I just finished my AoS backlog, now im going to buy a SC! Nurgle next time I go into town

>>52267067
Sisters of Silence aren't attractive.

>>52267095
humans are not a race but a species you retard. Maybe you should read an actual biology book instead of just D&D handbooks

Am I the only one that has gotten vaguely optimistic about a new Skryre book because of the Overlords?

Skryre as the cool evil tech faction is like 80% there, and could be so great.

>>52265389
More pics please. This shit is amazing

>>52264649
do you have a page for me?

>>52266366
Nope, a mix of sand and gravel, with the GW snow in top.

>>52269570
Not that guy, and I'm not disagreeing with you, but
>The human species
>The human race
Which have you heard more often?

>>52269859
Well, of course a term has never been used in a colloquial way while being very wrong in a technical sense, right?

>>52265729
You mean like Brets too tho

Why Bonesplitters are considered strong?
Legit question, i dunno know cause i'm pretty new to the game

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can anyone help me identify these models? i'm buying them from a guy and neither of us know the exact models

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>>52270077
the one on the left especially. i think this is two acolytes, but im hoping theres a warplock engineer somewhere here

Post your dudes in AoS, I am always curious on what other people have come up for their dudes

>>52264590

Appears to be a 25mm, just judging off the scale pic (not sure how legit that is) and the angle of the base. (25mm are slightly steeper than 32mm)

>>52270086
I think you have a globadier (which may be named now accolyte) and a warpfire thrower team.

>>52270086
Warpfire thrower weapon team???

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>>52270145
castigators of Ib
i just ripped off the lovecraft story 'the doom that came to sarnaath'

>>52270033
Their troops are quite tough so they'll actually survive any slog they have to make to enemy gunlines, something that not all melee armies can boast.

The main reason though is their god-like shooting. In a mob of 20+, each arrow boy will make three shots at 18" range, 5+ to hit, 4+ to wound, - rend (-1 vs monsters) and 1 damage. Not particularly accurate, but with so many shots they don't have to be.

>>52270195
How does it do? I'm going to do something similar with more Blightkings and Plaguebearers

>>52270248
i'm hard to kill, but nor do i kill anything. i just die slowly. i'm not sure what i need to start dishing out damage, but i'm looking at getting skaven

>>52269798
Not him, but the 1st book, page 32 Beneath Clouds of War.

>>52270077
Slaves

>>52270086
Bombardier+Warpfire thrower team

>>52264759
Because they should have left them there from the beginning or just left them for death (heh). No this "look who's back111111!!!111lolololol" bullshit that they might pull off. I want classic skellies and spoopy stuff not flavored reboxes to get some love.
I will still buy them if the hypothetical start collecting set is solid tho.

>>52270342
>>52270187
>>52270184
thanks mate, may the dice be with you

>>52270195
Blightkings seem to be killy. Maybe look at a Plagueclaw or something like a Soul Grinder or Great Unclean one

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>>52270145
Here are my dudes

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DleJ7guokNXxnsKZX7hu-vjRa0Hw4edANjkYRwm0PDY/edit?usp=sharing

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>>52270378
yeah, a big boy might do the trick. my plague kings i only have five of so while they can dish out a couple of wounds they usually get wiped pretty fast

>>52264649
Goblin sky pirates

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NURGLE WHEN

I need a mourngol

>>52270720
Learn to spell it properly first.

>>52270573
next year. its obvious year 1 was Khorne with the bloodthrister, year 2 is tzeench and got the LoC, year 3 will be nurgle and youll get a new unclean one

>>52266874
They are dead. Let it go anon.

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>>52270895
my FLGS is filled with great unclean ones
they love wearing slayer shirts

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>>52270955

>>52265318

Christ how fucking butthurt can you get.

Gold musclemen are associated with SE. Deal with it.

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>reading some of the AoS fluff on Lexicanum

Have fun shuffling around tin men and rolling 3+/4+ I guess.

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WHATS THE BEST FACTION AND WHY IS IT CHORFS

>>52271161
>imagine chaos dwarfs fighting with their own army and demon-posessed warmachines
>they use orc or otherkin slaves instead

lame

>>52271192
FW's chorf line is exclusively Chorfs and only Chorfs. You can't even add orc slaves or goblin slaves in matched play when playing as em. They are evil manevolent fuckers who use artillery and war machines as well as their bull centaurs to wreck shit

>>52270573
I ask myself this daily

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>>52270955

>>52270895
Slaanesh is next year. Nurgle has come and gone already during the year of khorne on the cob

>>52264521
>>52264590
>>52270173
Looking at one of my Dwarfs (Who is on a 25mm base) next to a Scion, it is definitely 25mm.

The Dwarf himself is more or less the same size as a Longbeard as well, which is nice.

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HOLY SHIT HIS FACE! I CANNOT STOP LAUGHING AT THIS SHIT. HE LOOKS LIKE CHAD THUNDERCOCK WITH DOWNS SYNDROME! THANKS GW FOR THIS SPECTACLE.

>>52271338
>Again more Bloodbound fighting Stormcast

Even from a Marketing perspective about advertising your big sellers, surely you would want to have OTHER lines advertised as well right?

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>>52271338
>Hans, are we the baddies?

>>52271386
From a player base and marketing perspective, yes.

>>52271338
shit

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>>52271386

>>52271338
>KNIGHT-ALCHEMICOR, I AM GOING INTO BATTLE FOR THE MORTAL REALMS AND I NEED YOUR STRONGEST POTIONS

>>52271358
Do stormcast even bleed? Why would khorne want to fight them if they don't bleed?

>>52271576
They are still human, why wouldn't they bleed?

>>52271602
They are human now? Arent they like 1ksons? or I thought they explode into lightning or smoke or some shit when they die?
How does the "Reforging" work if they are human?

Was asking for improvements in the last thread, this is my new list. I like it, but is there anywhere to improve, it is for a tournament.

Leaders
Saurus Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur (260)
- General
- Greatblade
- Trait: Reckless
- Artefact: Quicksilver Potion
Saurus Eternity Warden (140)
- Artefact: Phoenix Stone
Skink Priest (100)
- Priestly Trappings
Skink Starpriest (100)

Battleline
10 x Saurus Guard (200)
10 x Saurus Guard (200)
5 x Saurus Guard (100)

Units
5 x Chameleon Skinks (120)
5 x Chameleon Skinks (120)

Behemoths
Bastiladon (300)
Stegadon (260)

Battalions
Eternal Starhost (80)

Total: 1980/2000

>>52271618
When a human dies a heroic death of some sort, Sigmar scoops up their soul before Nagash gets his clammy mits on it.
That soul is then 'reforged', i.e. a new body is made from scratch and the soul is poured into it. That body is styled after the perfect human image, but is still very much human.
When they die, they turn into lighting and blast back to Azyr to be reforged again. They still bleed, get sick, hunger and die like any other human.

>>52271689
Oh so reforged means remade out of meat into a human?
I thought the soul was just stuck in a new suit of armor (hence the name reforge)

>>52271674
Pray to god your opponent doesn't have teleports, fast powerhouses or a lot of ranged wallop.
Because either will send your list packing in a hurry.

>>52271704
It's called reforge because the core of the Stormcast is based around remaking the soul to be better able to fight for Sigmar.
It also refers to the fact that the bodies are made from the remains of the Old World, which are reforged into a human body by various means.

>>52271674
Eternal Starhost is a trap. Guard are absurdly weak to mortal wounds. If your opponents are a bunch of khornetards you'll be fine but any competent opponent will absolutely demolish your line of guard with a small amount of mortal wounds. You will not get the D3 damage attacks unless your opponent is retarded.

A mix of Guard and Warriors is better than just having Guard.

Another reason that ES sucks is that the Eternity Warden is not that good of a melee hero, his only value is adding 1 attack to each guard but it has a very small range (5") and he is easy to kill because he doesn't ignore Rend-1. The best thing about an Eternity Warden is his ability to take wounds for a Slann, but Slann are not worth using in competitive games. You are better off taking a Sunblood because he does a ton of damage and ignores Rend-2.

1 priest is not reliable enough. Either bring a 2nd priest or bring a Starseer and use insight to reroll the celestial rites.

10 Chameleon Skinks is too much. 5 is enough. You dont bring chameleons to kill heroes, you bring them to kill artillery crew and secure open objectives and 5 is enough to do that.

You need 2-3 salamanders to punch through heavy armor units like Treelords.

You need an Astrolith Bearer.

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>>52271542

>>52264432
>dat picture
Hell, it's about time

>>52267002
Wow, I think I saw the trailer with Malerion about Ulgulands

>>52271950
What is this reference

>>52272045
Starcraft

>>52272045
>What is this reference
SC2 teaser

>>52271338
>arena combat
So it will be DotA with sigmarines?

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>>52270145
They're the soldiers of an oligarchy rising out of the fiery hellscape of Aqshy, the sprawling metropolis built around and over a volcanic furnace that is rumored to have been built by Grungni himself. Masters of blackpowder and engineering, their artificial defenses and the city's natural defenses kept the waves of Chaos at bay though the city's allegiance to Sigmar waned in his absence and slowly theologians began to give praise instead to artifice itself. Their patron was simply a mask for Chaos, however, as the city continued to produce instruments of war and carnage. Dark sorcery, crazed brilliance, and warpfire forges gave a horrific semblance of life to daemon-engines down in the searing foundries.

tl;dr: Chaos Renegades + Freeguild, inspired entirely by pic related

Army itself is mostly hypothetical, though I do now have pretty much the entire thing sourced other than some conversion work that I'll probably have to simply work out by getting both kits and seeing how to smash it together. Those two being fusing a Maulerfiend/Forgefiend with a Steam Tank. Rest of the line is Perry Miniatures Revolutionary War Brits, though with Outriders/Pistoliers mounted on Chaos Marauder horses and Demigryphs on Chaos Knight horses. Oh, and Guard as linemen with swords and probably pavises though I might go with Chaos Warrior or Marauder shields.

Also, lul. Just doing the math. Using British Legion cavalry mounted on Chaos Knight horses along with some Marauder shields ends up giving me a unit of six Daemonsteed Knights for $38.5 instead of $109 for the chickens. Hell, the Southern Army deal combined with the necessary Shield and Horse bits to to dress up some Guard and cavalry costs $187 for what would cost $679 if I bought it through Games Workshop.

>>52272090
There's more than Stormcasts and Bloodbound for it, that's just the core set.

They're also pre-painted.

This thing is GW's answer to X-wing.

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>>52263606
The Vargheists should be buildable out of that kit so you should be good. I'm going to pick up that kit eventually to make a Vamp Lord on a zombie dragon, then later another kit to make some actual ghouls and the ghoul king on terrorghiest (I've been told to pin/magnetize the figures - that way you can run them vanilla or with a rider).

>>52272121
That's funny anon.

Because you are joking, right?

Right?

"No Anvil":

Allegiance: Death

Leaders
Necromancer (120)
- Mount: Nightmare
Wight King with Baleful Tomb Blade (120)
- General
- Trait: Ruler of the Night
- Artefact: Cloak of Mists and Shadows

Battleline
5 x Blood Knights (260)
5 x Blood Knights (260)
20 x Zombies (120)
20 x Zombies (120)

Total: 1000/1000

Playstyle: Merge zombies, use BKs for mobility and the 40 zombie mob to block/kill whatever bothers you most. If the table has not enough terrain to protect your characters from shooting/mw spam cry and concede.

>>52272169
>only 40 zombies at 1000 pts
>not 80 zombies, two Corpse Carts, 30 wolves, and a Necro/Wight King with Ruler of the Night

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>>52265194
>Comparing Settra, the man, the legend, to an old cuck who swindled college kids out of their money to buy his third house this weekend.

One's a leader of men/undead men, and the other's a corrupt brooklyn commie politician.

>>52272258
Perhaps, but only one of them has any relevance today. :^)

As a fellow TK player, just accept it and move on, dude. You'll feel much better once you understand that those days are gone, and now you just have an opportunity for growth.

>>52272169
You should make a random bloodknight your general so it never dies

>>52272309

Aren't you happy you can buy Age of Sigmar™ dedicated undead armies like the Deathlords™, the Deamwalker™, the Deadmages™?

Or maybe you want to try your hand at the Aelfs™, the Fyreslayer™, or the bestest of best, the Stormcast™ Stormternal™, featuring units like the Stormguard™, the Stormwarrior™, or the unique Stormlord™ on Stormdragon™

>>52272158
Nope.

>>52272309

>totally not a GW employee: The Post

>>52272309
you can still play sorta tk.
just go all death rattle and give them TK bits.

>>52272411
There's full rules for Tomb Kings armies, Anon.

>>52272394
To be fair, stormdragon (or stormdrake) sounds badass.

>>52272409
Ha, fair enough. But just someone that doesn't see the point of futilely whining when it's already clear that GeeDubs doesn't give a shit. If you played Tomb Kings, if you play Bretonnia, stop pretending you are relevant, stop pretending you are going to be supported.

Either take the army and play 9th or KoW with your friends, or pick someone else and play AoS. But TK are fucking fossils. I love my Empire of Dust, but I understand that Settra's gone. And frankly, I'm sort of happy for it, too. Settra was a real fucking OG badass. Seeing him in the Mortal Realms would just feel pathetic. Glad to know he went out like he lived, as a stonecold motherfucker.

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>>52272394
I actually don't own any TK - new to Fantasy/AoS with Vampire Counts/Death/everything else, but Settra's an OG boss of WHF and there's no reason for him not to make an eventual return considering you have Nulahmia - that goes for all Tomb Kings style minis. I still think they'll be back, just different. I think people just want their aesthetic back most of all. Look at how small Death is atm, it needs a booster shot big time. I'll also take more vampires, I'm primarily a vampire guy over mummies.

>>52272493
This nigga speaks the truth.
DEAL.
WITH.
IT.

>>52270278
Love you, anon.

>>52265134
I like magic robots

>>52272772
Stormcast aren't magic robots.

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>>52272808
THEY ARE TO ME!

>>52264521
The detail makes me glad I don't bother with anything other than sylvaneth DESU.

I can't imagine fucking around with all the little bits and pieces on new GW models. They make them look like eyesores.

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>>52265167
You're fucking kidding me!

After all that, after the fucking shit he burned he plays sigmar? What a massive fucking faggot. Okay. Hate sigmar. That's fine! But burning THAT and then just saying "actually I want to play sigmar please..." is just fucking pathetic.

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>>52271338
Literally ripped off garen
Actually a LOT of the new aos art direction is league of legends-esque

>>52264582
So.. glistening swole bloodletters are in the pipeline?

>>52272121
>This thing is GW's answer to X-wing.
Top kek, implying AoS IP and GW rules and prices could match SW and FFG

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>>52272425
>unironically using "badass"

>>52272987
SW is super expensive for how shit the models are.

>>52265527
>Literally vermin that ruin everything around them by sheer presence, too violent sadistic and cowardly to have a pleasant society and instead have a nightmarish hellscape of backstabbers, liars, thieves and tyrant-cowards.

Why do you think? At least Chaos Kiddies aren't hipsters. (Unless they play slaanesh.)

>>52265110
New Settra would be fantastic.

>>52265194
No need to be a salty faggot over people hoping for fanservice. Go to WHFB or 40k if you want to spread the negativity

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>>52272999
>projecting insecurities

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>>52269530
>Doesn't want a mute with a fuckleash hairstyle.

Degenerate.

>>52270267
Some more plague drones, plague bearers/nurglings to hold objectives, greater daemon for punching, heralds for buffing, beasts are solid too.

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>another khorne book
They cant keep getting away with it

>>52273116
>reddit talks about projecting

So with no new models with the Khorne book does that mean no Khornegors? I was hoping they would continue doing beastmen for each of the gods like back in the day.

Is the death model range not really new? I thought they got updated with 7th or 8th? Why do people think they're getting new models so soon when shit like Aelves, dwarves and beastmen doesn't even have a book?

>>52265134
Memes aside stormcast are pretty fucking cool. If tg wasn't so asshurt about AoS they would agree. How can heavenly super soldiers sent down to purge evil NOT be cool

>>52273264
>Make us stop. Signed GW.

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>WHFB
>3 elf armies
>AOS
>still no elf tomes or model updates

>>52265134
Stormcast are pretty cool imo but i agree, i would like to see humans on the table. I mean humans in the lore get more and more pathetic, basically taking the role of sheep that need protection. What about a faction of "noble" or ragtag humans that didn't give a fuck about chaos or Sigmar and somehow still survived the end times? My problem with the free people's is that i hate the damn renaissance striped pajamas. Ditch the British striped pajamas and go for something akin to the Spanish renaissance soldiers with leathers, jackets and armor plates.

>>52273267
>still projecting
Kek

>>52273350
>are pretty fucking cool.
If you are 10 yo and a big fan of MCU Thor
>How can heavenly super soldiers sent down to purge evil NOT be cool
Easily. through borring design and poor writting quality.

>>52273596
>reddit in denial

>>52273455
It seems that at adepticon this weekend they'll give sneak peeks for aelfs...

>>52273042
You just listed some of the reasons I love my rats. The shear hilarity that they ever get anything done at all while living like that.

I also like slaanesh

>>52273683
Week*

>>52273042
Ah yes, the merchants

>>52273350
because:
- all rook da same
- literally space marines
- even the same sound the same so people cant tell the difference between protectors, prosecutors, judicators, fagmaballators etc
- took badass demigryph knights but replaced the human on top with a spacemarine so real (empire) demigryphs are fucking useless
- celestant prime is a fagget
- their RANGED UNIT... wth BOWS... has fucking PLATE ARMOR. Why does your archer unit have the same equipment as your front line defenders? I get it for lore, but they shouldn't even exist. All ranged units in Samecast army should have been free peoples to A) blend the army into order and the existing factions and B) give some variety to the shitty golden necron spacemarines
- My friend has sucked 93 dicks and even he says that Stormcast are more gay than he is.
- The good guys are supposed to be the underdogs for it to be interesting, not the most powerful basic fuckin guy. IG are cool because they are just men against aliens and super humans. Stormcast are at the top of the totem pole from the start. Even a chaos warrior cant step.

>>52272910
You just can't paint, Anon.

>>52272970
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/03/19/coming-to-the-mortal-realms-this-april/

>>52273127
Is Horned Rat a lady rat?

>>52273350
>If tg wasn't so asshurt about AoS they would agree.

The models are the most boring thing in the entire setting and I've yet to see anything that suggests their fluff is any better.

>>52273824
>Good guys have lost literally everything twice.
>Are winning now ONLY because of oldworld magic and the infighting of chaos.
>But they're destined to win dude! foregone conclusion!!!!

>>52273888
Fyreslayers are worse 2bh

>>52272999
>>52273116
>>52273267
>>52273640
>autism

>>52273944
>>Are winning now ONLY because of oldworld magic and the infighting of chaos.
Nope they are winning because Sigmar found SpiritualLiege-like plot-device (or STC).

>>52273977
Not exactly, IMO, fireslayers just designers failure, while SCE just borring

>>52274019
If you hate it so much, why are you here?

>>52273264
considering how khorne bloodbound is shit, i would like to see them actually be worth it, without adding stuff from slaves to darkness

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>>52273843
Wow im glad khorne is getting an update. I was worried they were going to squad him for some dumb rat god shoehorned into the chaos pantheon or something. So happy Khorne is finally getting some love from GW.

>>52273843
>3 Bloodthirsters
Could you TRY being less transparently mercenary GW?
That would be great.

>>52274054
The same reason why I posting in 40k general, while disliking Ultramarines

>>52274095
Yeah, but you bitch about everything.

>>52273311
the thing is that the death model range comes entirely from the old vampire counts, and have to fill up the whole death alliance
meanwhile, order have not only absorbed most of the old factions of warhammer, but they get the most of the releases as well, with only chaos being able to follow

>>52274105
>but you bitch about everything.
because I dislike poster-boys for their dullness?

>>52274134
Nah, I mean you bitch about everything, not just Stormcast.

>>52274153
>I mean you bitch about everything
Where?

>>52273944
My point is they are the strongest faggets in the game. A stormcast can bitch out a warrior of chaos, a seraphon, a fuckin wight king, etc.
And if they happen across something they cant beat with their hammers, HAY LOOK I RIDE A STUPID FUCKING DRAGON THAT WILL EAT YOU OR SHIT A STAR ON YOU

>>52274019
Is this the level of ass hurt chaos has become? I'm so sorry that the world didn't get destroyed by your ebin hatred for all things living, get fucked you daemon worshipping edge lord faggots

>>52274175
That must be why they never lose, huh?

Oh wait...

Does anybody have a good tutorial on how to do make fine looking snow bases quickly (~20 minutes a piece)?

>>52274175
>why are the greatest warriors of old so dam good at fighting

>>52274222
>Is this the level of ass hurt chaos has become?
Dunno, never was big fan of Chaos.
SCE are example of faction favoritism among GW game-designers (who for some reason now writting the fluff) as WoC were before them.

>>52273863
Actually yes he might be

Skaven of Pestilens refer to themselves as the 'Children of the Horned Rat' so take that how you want.

>>52274223
>Oh wait...
And Nids eat some ate some SpaceMarines chapters, but in the end it's SpaceMarines who saved everyone.

>>52274285
>And Nids ate some SpaceMarines chapters, but in the end it's SpaceMarines who saved everyone.
phonefix

>>52274285
And Stormcasts didn't save everyone.

They saved like a few small regions.

>>52274309
>And Stormcasts didn't save everyone.
They pushed back Chaos from almost half of the Realms (or important places on these realms, since setting still looks like bunch of random decorations).

>>52274285
It's almost like there's more than just a few marine chapters huh

Age of Sigmar is 40k's unification wars.

AoS mentions other planets, they got space station sigmar, metal star dragon flying to the machine world or something or other.
In 40k, Sol system was trapped in a warp storm for like 5k years. Emperor united Earth among the Waring tribes. Made a deal with Mars. Then built the space marines. The warp storms stopped and then the great crusade happend.
There really isn't much more fluff regarding the unification wars. Its fairly old fluff.

The warhammer world was earth. Basically what happened is that warp storm errupted, earth became a demon world, the warp gates were put at the poles. And the old world had its day. Then the end times happened, the world got sucked into the warp, got pushed back out, AoS stuff happened. etc...
The time is fickle because it all goes different in the warp. Sol system was cut off from galaxy for 5k years but in the warp bubble that could be 10's of thousands.

And the inconsistancies with the old world and the old ones and putting the gates up doesn't matter - they will never explain it, that's why they blew it up.
And it will be years before you see concrete official cannon saying that AoS is the unification wars. They are keeping it vague for a reason. They will probably never even mention the word Earth or Mars. The whole genre is mythological story telling so they will never break from that.

>>52274607
>sigmar merges with the other seven gods through the warp to try and bring an end to chaos

>>52273570
I mean, that's basically what MUH DUDES >>52272097 are, an independent faction of incredibly heretical renegade daemon-smiths living the Realm of Fire and modeled with British Redcoats from Revolutionary War lines.

Sigmar is a false god and Chaos offers nothing but destruction, thus they turn to the God Machine which promises an eternity of perfection.

>>52274607
Anon, don't bring that shit here.

>>52274607
There was a dude bitching about you in a previous thread.

Both of you can die in a fire.

>>52274758

You know, you massive faggot, go fuck yourself. I was just poking fun about him. Seriously, go fuck yourself. THIS is bitching. THIS >>52274758 is bitching. Apparently you aren't welcome nor needed in this thread either.

>>52274607
This is now the third time you bring that post up. Nobody cares, dude. Let that moron have his delusions and move on.

>>52274825
I think this is the real one.

>>52274607
>Tyranids are actually Malal corrupted Seraphon who were scattered to the Northern points of the galaxy only to turn around and eat their way back

DEEPEST LORE

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>giving a shit about lore beyond like a one page write up to give your army flavour and theme

>>52274825
I haven't posted this... fuck he's developing his crack-theory. Next thing I'll hear is that Arkhan is Malcador.

>>52274909

I actually liked mortarch of night.

>>52274843
Well, between the Slav and Mathfag he'll fit right in our weird band of headcases and misfits...

>>52274968

One thing I've noticed. Didn't they more or less stop when the other began its activity?

>>52274968
Fairly sure its the slav copy pasting stuff from another forum as bait

>>52274815
Like I said in the last thread, nobody wants either of you here. Go be autistic at each other elsewhere

>>52275052
Different anon but seriously, cut it out both of you. This is 4chan, no one gives half a toss about any of you bloody morons arguing nor you being a hero of the thread.

So, after Stormcast and Bloodbound, do you think the older BT might get an update too ?
I wonder if they'll only do the posterboys, but I sure as fuck would buy an updated Flesh Eater Courts Battletome.
I'm actually hopeful for once, hold me.

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>reddit rats

>>52275201

I hope too but I doubt it will be very soon. Most likely we will wait up until summer's end to get new stuff for the updated armies, maybe a kit more or two since the remaining forces to update are, with the exception of Seraphon,very limited forces.

>>52271830
>Eternal Starhost is a trap. Guard are absurdly weak to mortal wounds. If your opponents are a bunch of khornetards you'll be fine but any competent opponent will absolutely demolish your line of guard with a small amount of mortal wounds. You will not get the D3 damage attacks unless your opponent is retarded.

He'll get the d3 attacks in in second or third rounds of combat at least, and as long as hes not taking a ton of mortals, hes likely to get it.

Taking eternal to a tournament is a pretty fair choice, because there are a lot of armies it will be rediculously good against. Especially backed up by priests.

I've stopped playing Warhammer 10 years ago but I'll get into the hobby again with those sweet new dorfs. I don't like the colour scheme GW used I think I'll roll with some nice blue or white or even try out stripes and squares on those guys.
What colours will you use for your airpirate dorfs?

>>52275239
The Sylvaneth or Tzeentch Arcanites doesn't have that much kit, so I can see them releasing only an updated battletome like the Khornian one.
But yeah, I'd rather wait to have one or two more kits.

>>52274607
I like it.

Tomb Kangs when?

>>52275415
I think they'll only update the battletomes till the Tzeentchian One,cuz he's the First of the new type of battletomes(i Remember when It came the community site said something like that about a new style for Brooks)....

>>52275256
You wont get 2 or 3 rounds of combat unless your opponent is retarded

Eternal Starhost doesnt win tournaments, it is easily countered

>>52275824
Sylvaneth, Beastclaw Raiders and Bonesplitterz before that were fine, too. The only difference being that they didn't incorporate multiple subfactions.

>>52275824
The Sylvaneth one already had specific abilities and artefacts, iirc, as it was released just before the General's Handbook. So I can see them update just the ones before them.

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>>52263515
I'm working on my herdstone. Right now I am just waiting for the basecoat to dry.

>1/3

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>>52275885
>2/3

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>>52275917
>3/3

>>52275879
Ah ok perhaps you're right.
The battletomes of beastclaw, sylvaneth and bonesplitterz are fine without subfactions also.
Maybe the pestilens will be incorporated in a "skaven" battletome like Tzeentch One has every subfaction in it maybe...?

>>52275973
We'll see, they also spoke of 2nd edition for the General's Handbook, and the Khornian update shows they're not shy about book-only updates, which is a good thing to me.

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>>52271386
welcome to my world

So...Is Slaanesh squatted or not?

>>52276231
Nope, she's just missing and being searched for by his followers.

>>52275935
This makes my poopsmiths happy.

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>>52275885
>>52275917
>>52275935
Looks cool, what will be your next step?

>>52276231
My theory is that they are going to make the "shadow aelfs" slaaneshi chaos, like how the darkelves were back in the day.

>>52276386
I've applied a base layer of Mechanicus standard grey, next step is skavenblight dinge on the stone, and fenrisan grey on the ground. Then the last step for the stone itself would be a drybrush of baneblade brown.

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>>52276504
And I forgot to include the picture

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>>52276490
All my money

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What do you guys think of Bloodbowl?

>>52276490
Good. He needs some mortal followers. Also wouldn't mind a new KoS

>>52276773
Never played it but reading rules right now - Orcs models look neat and I want to give it a try

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtkwaT1Fcu8

Daily Duncan Does Gryph-hounds.

>>52276773
Stupid. Only good things about it are some of its models, like the skaven blight scramblers, being used instead of metal models for gutter runners

>>52276821
>Stupid

Why?

>>52276841
Idk, the whole idea of it seems too silly to me.

>>52276773
Never been interested in American Football, so I've never been interested in a game about it, even as far from reality it is.
I'd rather play Mordheim, Warhammer Quest, or a board game.

>>52276877
it's more like american football crossed with rugby crossed with a fight.

>>52276821
>being used instead of metal models for gutter runners

How do you get rid of the ball on the models, because I might do this.

>>52276082
Is it you Mitchell and Webb?

But yes, I agree with you that Russian Agriculture is in dire need of mechanization.

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>mfw honorfags hate great-glorious skaven master race because of smart-clever sneak-stab tactics

>>52275201
Fuck yourself. You have a perfect fine Battletome with a nice range of gimmicks and cheese. The factions that haven't even been touched yet deserve it far more than you do.

>>52275823
kys

On second thought, kill >>52275277 instead and livestream it. Then kys

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>>52276876
>it seems too silly to me.

Would a full army of Spiderfang grots be possible and not trash?