Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

>>52254776
>>52254776
They got some pretty decent rules and a pretty good decurion.

>>52254791
"bumping" this for feedback.

What the? No First for [insert faction here]?

>>52254816
They have great infantry, but they sort of have a lack of good "heavy" stuff, which is a CSM problem in general.

Forgeworld sonic dread is pretty cool though.

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reposting because last thread just died
Can i just get pic related, convert it to look 40k like and use it as a predator? Calling what it is before the game starts obviously.

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Rate

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FIRST FOR DA ORKS

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For Guilliman's Eldar gf!

>>52254833
check with your opponents/event organizers beforehand
GW stores usually do not allow that, if you play in one

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Posting my DKoK assault brigade list here in desperation, no one seems to be able to help me make it betterer.

>>52254839
i2

>>52254833
No chance. Could work as Imperial Guard tank but not as Predator. IG tanks are glorified tractors, Predators are way more high tech.

>>52254832
They have war machines and special weapons, what more do you need?

>>52254838
Isnt the point of having chimers because theyre dirt cheap? Id say go with no additional weapons on it and allocate those points somewhere else.

>>52254857
I don't really rate forge/maulerfiends very highly and heldrakes are total butt these days.

Predators and Vindicators are pretty okay though.

Why won't GW give us a normal LatD codex?

>>52254838
Delete commissar, use IG scions, use 55pts to something useful (dozer blade for russ and lascannon is not bad investment)

>>52254832
Kakaophi Blast Masters are pretty good. S9 AP3 Ignores Cover, Shred; if memory serves. Which is pretty damned good.

Sonic Blasters are Salvo 2/3
S5, AP5, Shred which is also pretty good. And well worth the point or two for the upgrade.

>exactly four jump packs
FUCK

I wanna make another assault squad but I need one more jump pack. Is my only option to buy more or should I just convert them all in to special characters or something.

What's the best model to use for GK librarian?

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Tell me how shit my casual IG list is

>>52254838
Replace one of the grenade vets and the tempestus scions with a hellrain brigade.

>>52254853
What vehice could it work with? I dont mind spending money on a model i will use 1/20 games
>>52254843
My store's cool with replacements, not sure about pernament model i want to paint properly

help anons pls

anyone have a 2D6 gauss graph?

>>52254933
If you drop the 11 boltguns you can bring some more special weapons.

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>>52254842
>tfw GW will inevitebly strike with classic 40k grimderp and make him kill her and bury all hope of defeating chaos
>tfw they will never kill Fulgrim together and hurt Slaanesh

>>52254825
I was worried about raptors/talons not being able to assault on the turn they come in, unless I slog them along with everyone else.

I was also worried about giving anything heavy to the champions, as I1 could make them die uselessly before even having a swing, especially with challenges.

With these things in consideration, what do?

>>52254885
Kakophani sonic weapons are only +1s if the formation contains 6 units of of noise marines. Since I don't play more than 2000 point games I literally never seen someone take that many squads of noise marines.

>>52254938
http://anydice.com/program/20

>>52254949
Like what? Boltguns are only a point each so I cant imagine I'd get much.

>>52254975
thanks anon!

>>52254842
RIGHTFUL QUEEN OF THE IMPERIUM!

Anyone have an example of a melee weapon in 7th edition that has 2 alternate profiles you have to choose from at the start of combat each turn? I know the Emperor's Champion used to have that but it seems like it doesn't anymore.

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Was anyone else kinda disappointed with how they portrayed Cawl in Gathering Storm? 50% of the time we get to see things from his perspective he's confused or angry or shit, I would've thought a 10.000+ year old near immortal half-machine badass would have better control over his emotions, if he felt emotion at all. He didn't really do shit in most fight scenes either

>>52254868
no one would buy it

>>52254905
well there's a few terminator librarians but you could also use a stormcast eternal and convert it

>>52255018
You choose which to use each time you use it.

I'm willing to bet money we get plastic Mortarion and deathshroud terminators

>>52255036
That doesn't have anything to do with my question, I asked for an example. Like give me a weapon which does this.

Who is the better engineer, Belisarius Cawl or Perturabo?

>>52255045
Celestine's sword can be a heavy flamer, idk if you mean two melee profiles though

>>52255032
Everything in Gathering Storm was bad, writing-wise. It was just nauseating.

>>52255049
Yes, two Melee profiles.

>>52254983
1 plasma
1 melta and 1 flamer/ grenade launcher
3 flamers
3 Grenade launchers

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Does it seem Custodes are gonna work as a standalone army?

>>52255032

Yeah, he was kind of short-changed. He spends the first book following Celestine around like a puppy, and doesn't even vaporise himself some Black Legion.
Admittedly he did pretty much singlehandedly rezz Guilliman, "soul poison" bullshit or not, and he coordinated all the battles in GS3 while the writing was wanking Guilliman and Greyfax/Celestine, so he pretty much did all the actual work.

I'm hoping at some point we get a proper Archmagos character, since what they did to Cawl here was as bad as what they did to the Templars personality-wise.

>>52255045
Guilliman sword - he can choose to do 6 attacks with d on a 6 or choose to do number of attacks equal to number of models in contact

>>52255098
How much will him stand against a GSC patriarch with a squad of 20 genestealers?

>>52255080
no ranged support, 4 models (3 reskined), no psychic powers, no characters, less rules then any other ally armies, and 30k has more stuff.

>>52255101
they could probably do it, guilliman only has 6 attacks or he'd sweep 7 or so then get buried in rending attacks

>>52255018
glaive for succubus.

>>52255098
That's not two profiles, though, that's a special rule that overrides the standard rules of hit allocation in close combat.

God why are people only suggesting things from Gathering Storm?

>>52255127
Thank you.

>>52255101
>>52255116
Pretty sure old Rowboat would be fine. Hed kill half eaaily, then they have to chew through a 3++/5+++ even if they all rend. They also have to get 6 wounds with that, and there's a 50% shot he just gets back up right away

>>52254844
no one? :(

>>52255080

I... I don't know what to mf do.

>>52254844
>>52255153

Not an entire army of death riders/10.

>>52255116
>>52255152
But can he do the special attack in a challenge?

>>52255032
>Really fucking old
>Confused and angry all the time

Nope, seems fine to me.

>>52255163
I don't see any reason why not. Not that it matters much. Since that just cuts him down from killing 8 on a sweep to killing like 6.

>>52254953
Nah, senpai. By 8th ed, I bet Ynnari and Ultramarines being BB. Yes I'm stupidly optimistic

>>52255202
Shame, fucking unkillable primarch >:(

>>52255215
>Ynnari will be Ultramarines slaves
Fixed it for you

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>>52254964
I'm going to go ahead and call bullshit on that. Here is a list that is pretty good with 6 Noise Marine Squads, that uses the EC Decurion and is pretty bitchen.

>>52255101
To throw out some numbers, the Genestealers get approximately 60attacks on the charge. On average, 30 hit, needing 6s to wound, dealing just over 1 wound after invuln and feel no pain.

Meanwhile, Gullyman lands 4 attacks in return assuming he doesn't sweep, statistically killing off 4.

The genestealer's damage drops after the charge, so it's likely they won't kill him before the game ends. Meanwhile, Guiilliman will kill them within 5 turns, or less if he can sweep a significant number.

>>52255237
Yeah I hate that none of the other factions will get characters in the Primarchs league at all. Fucking sucks knowing all the strongest characters from here on out will just be Primarchs

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>>52255237
Glorious he is.

>>52255258
What about the Yncarn? Isn't he in that league?

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>>52255215
I hope so.

>>52255262
Glorious con man
>>52255258
IKR. Stupid GW

>>52255258
>>52255287
Yncarne isnt in that league since Guilliman is distration carnifex that you can ignore and Yncarne will win games for you with his/her teleport bullshit.

>>52255287
Nah, s/he'll get smashed most likely by both.

Funnily enough the Avatar of Khaine beats 'em both, cause of Soul Blaze, but you can see its an Oversight by GW's so I won't be surprised if soonish the ability gets removed somehow, like the Avatar's Rule maybe next time around won't affect Soul Blaze anymore.

Besides doesn't the Yncarne die to a Culexus? Read that somewhere on here, not sure about it though.

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>>52255258
To be fair we knew this was coming the moment Primarchs actually made a comeback. Its been GW fluff since 30k became as big a thing as it is that the Primarchs are the best fighters, artificers, psykers, seers, strategists, plumbers, fuckers in the galaxy for a while now.

I mean yeah it sucks for everyone who doesn't play Chaos or the Imperium that we gotta accept that we're all, at best, like 15th at whatever our particular skill is cause most of the Primarchs will be casually better than our best at it, but that's how its been for a while in fluff so I ain't surprised.

I mean Ahriman's already a stronger Psyker than Eldrad, Marneus already chops up Avatar's of Khaine, Ork Warbosses die like flies and such so obviously Primarchs are gonna be better than all Xenos Special Characters at everything, regular Marines already are.

>>52255302
So your saying it's fighting in the upper end of that league above GirlyMan?

>>52255262
I don't trust him. He's way to polite to Xenos Abominations and didn't kill them all when he had the chance to totally decapitate the leadership of the Ynnari.

That doesn't sound like a Loyalist Son of the Emperor, that sounds like some Magnus-tier heresy.

>>52255357
He is making a point about versatility and usefulness in the game, not about who'd win in a fight.

As for tiers; both Miniatures are still relatively new, it'd probably be difficult to make an airtight assertion about either's usefulness at this stage.

>>52255324
I don't think it's gonna be pure primarch supremacy around here, we're gonna see the other faction special get the same treatment

Ghazzy becomes fuckoff huge, beastlike in stature, makes ork armies fearless or something like that

Shadowsun gets a personal riptide and gives the entire army outflank skyfire interceptor rending 3d6 thrust move and tank hunter with twinlinked markerlights

The swarmlord gets fellated even more, the lore gets even more fucky and he'll be a death machine that costs 1000 points

Embrace the power creep

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My tactic of 18 point psykers was a bad idea. The bitch kill her self on the first peril.

Then again I have terrible luck with psykers.

Maybe 2 Psykers and 2 Acolytes could work better, but Brotherhood of psykers kind of suck and it is 28 points.

>>52255374
Anything your opponent can't afford to ignore and can keep coming back like a fucking cockroach is going to beat a distraction unit.

>>52255256
>I'm going to go ahead and call bullshit on that
On what, my personal experience? So how does that work, exactly?

Regardless of whether or not <2000pt EC lists exist in the world, that does not invalidate my personal experience of never once seeing one played in a game of that size or smaller.

>>52255381
>Embrace the power creep
Is there even a choice at this stage? Meh

Anyway I don't really see what your saying. The Yncarne is weaker than both Primarchs released so far, so that means we can beat Craftworlds, Harlequins, Dark Eldar, Exodites (maybe one day) will have nothing on that tier.

Considering the Swarmlord's actually got a pretty lacklustre record of losing in a 1v1 fight to Marneus and doesn't have Eternal Warrior I doubt it.

No Tau character will be Primarch Tier (and I'm actually okay with this one).

Also I'd bet money Ghazz will never be as strong as a Primarch. Primarchs simply have far to much narrative power.

So yeah, I think from here on out Xenos can at best look forward to dying in droves (Orks, Tyranid), being sidekicks (Necron, Eldar) or being ignored (Tau) when Primarchs are involved.Whoopee.

>>52255401
Look Mr anonymous poster man, if you want to go ahead and claim full and complete knowledge of the usefulness of two new and disparate Miniatures based off your limited pool of knowledge, that's fine, but I just won't believe you.

>>52255401
How many sources of model removal are in the game though

>>52255381
DESU, the Tau are okay for now and will probably just get another Gundam or flyer if things need to be evened out. I don't think they need any super characters.

The Nids will probably get newer, bigger bugs whenever the next Hive Fleet hits/Leviathan evolves/whatever.

Ghazzy will return from Ocatarius at Ullanor levels at a minimum.


>>52255411
I honestly don't think it's that doom and gloom at this stage yet. Armageddon round 3 seems to be coming and that will be the best to show us which way things are going.

>>52255257
What.

Are you using the stats for Tyranid Genestealers instead of Purestrains?

They have 3 attacks base, Furious Charge with the Patriarch, and a 5+ invulnerable. All of your math is way off.

"Rumor is from the same source that this box set will be $130."
Is it worth in your opinion?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMwIsQQEa4o

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>>52255490
Welp, forgot attention pic

>>52255398
>He actually used shit cheesecake shit in a real game
Absolute madman.

>>52255490
The only thing interesting in there is the terrain and that's not worth 80 bucks.

>>52255461
We'll see.

But if the Yncarne was made below their level I just find it unlikely Ghazz or the Swarmlord would be buffed to that level.

To be honest I'm assuming Amrageddon 3 will mostly be about Angron seeing as the Traitor Primarchs are now actually getting released and their is more demand for an Angron Daemon Primarch Miniature than a new Ghazz Miniature, not to mention all that build up in Gathering Storm that Armageddon's about to have a fullblown Daemonic Invasion.

If we're lucky Angron will kill Ghazz off.

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>>52254933
First off, Emperor's Blade requires Hellhounds, so you can't take that formation with what you have. So you might as well just add those Vets to the CAD. You only have 2 HQ choices in a CAD, but the Cadian battlegroup detachment is 1+ HQ so you can essentially have as many HQs as you want with a Guard army. Next, drop the Vox casters in the vet squads, they probably won't be out of their Chimeras willingly. If they are, Creed already allows you to re-roll orders.

Next, you have your tank commander as a battle cannon, but then one of his buddies as a Vanquisher. That's a total waste of the commander's BS4. Make the tank commander the Vanquisher, then take a battle cannon buddy. Then take the 3rd tank and put it as your last heavy support choice.

Drop Kell. Everyone is leadership 8 or higher thanks to their Sergeant. His bonuses are a waste of points. With those saved points, get a Commissar or Priest for each Infantry blob so they won't run. If you really want the Regimental standard, you can still take it because you have spare points from dropping the Veterans vox casters.

Here's how I would change things. I added Volkov's Cane to the solo CCS from the Cadian battlegroup. Within 6 inches, all orders pass on everything except a double 6, so you won't need all the vox casters. With this you have 75 free points to add things. I'd recommend adding special or heavy weapons to the Infantry squads. At the very least go for Grenade Launchers or Flamers since they come with the kit. Personally I'd go for Autocannons since that's 6 for 60 points and they are an all rounder heavy weapon.

Also, you can take Imperial Agents Astropaths which are the same as the CCS Astropaths, just better and they are Independent Characters, so you can stick them in your Guard blobs.

>>52255490
I was thinking about it as I could actually use some more boyz and a few scouts but to pay that much for terrain I'll most likely never bring to a game...

I'll wait until people give their opinion on the rules included before I pick it up.

>>52255500
>unpainted and unbased

>>52255324
>>52255381
>>52255411
>>52255461
>>52255504


Can I remark that this isn't just a Xenos problem?
My Admech and the Guard, among others, have little hope that we'll be getting anything that can really compete. Sure, Cawl is damn good, but we still have nothing that can kill Guilliman or Magnus bar 8 KatDs with BS5 twinlinked, and even then he may just keep getting back up again. And now we have him, we've blown our "New shit" slot, so we don't even have hope for a better counter in the future.

Watching Primarchs casually make our commanders, strategists, accomplishments and faction ideas seem completely useless in comparison isn't fun for us either, speaking as someone with one named character that has done all he ever will without sucking off Guilliman at every turn.
My local shop had four Guillimans on the table yesterday, one of them killed a Knight and a Librarian Dread in one round of combat with his 7A base, and none of them would shut up about how awesome he, his character, his rules and his stupid overdesigned model are. I like Cawl's rules, but I don't have to think every aspect of the guy and his schizophrenic fragile model are perfect.

Is this the future?

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>>52255500
I'm thinking about using pic related as a objective marker for chaos army

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>>52255359

>>52255523
That is the most sinful thing. Wish I had more disposable time.

>>52255500
The wonders of playing in the third world banana republic is people don't give a damn about tits on a miniature.

>>52255257
Guilliman overwatch with hand of dominion

>>52255629
What are those minis from?

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All I'm hoping with the new edition is that GW can start releasing updated stats and abilities faster so we don't end up with rules/codices not being updated for YEARS.

>>52255359
Citizen please stay at your workstation
Arbiters are on their way to ... talk to you

>>52255581
it's the same kinda problem whfb had when the glottkin and nagash but then people complain when we get weak characters like the visarch, who really only lacks an invul

>>52255642
Cadian from GW and POW from Brother Vinni

>>52255595
Do you play emperor's children?
>tactical genius ties a naked women to a stump
>instead of charging th enemy lines all their marines gather around her
>"objective secured! objective secured!"
>bomb the shit out of all of them

>>52255688
That is something my batshit insane SoB and/or Radical Inquisitor would do.

How did my Inquisitor convince the SoB about using Psyker.
Tied them up strip them naked and say they are repenting for being a Psyker.

New fluff SoB are ok with demons, Xenos and psykers now so what my fluff is old fluff now.

>>52255688
Nope, I'm playing Slaves to Darkness

>>52255629
I wouldn't mind them being on the table, the problem is I play with a bunch of stuck-up Christians who freak out over nudity.

Mauling someone to death with a chainsword is fine, but showing some nudity is a big no. LOGIC.

Hello guys. What do you think is GW's target group? Do they know their customers?

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Reposting my list, hoping to get feedbacks.

>>52255769
Babbies
Fuck no

What do you think about this citation:
>We make the best fantasy miniatures in the world and sell them globally at a profit and we intend to do this forever.

>>52255769
Spoilt children with rich parents
No

>>52255769
Well under Kirby it was "modellers" that they stated in their annual report was the demographic of choice.

No idea if thats changed.

>>52255769
Their target group is the 17-30 range where people have some amount of expendable income with less life requirements.

>>52255782
>>52255804
well memed. why would a company not know its customers
>>52255808
this guy is right

Okay so looks like Custodes for 40k ain't too bad, now that they have grenades and a base invul, and count as troops so you can say, ally in a squad with a triumvirate member as an HQ. Their land raiders are more durable and BS5 which is nice, but still a land raider so not actually worth taking.

Their contemptor is okay stat wise, but the fist and autocannon are poor for proxying the actual model with.

Any suggestions for color schemes for Iron Warriorsl/successors? I want to add a small detachment of them to my Chaos force.

>>52255773
Looks good, lots of heavy weapons.

Not really taking advantage of deathguard rules but it's not a pure DG army.

>>52255839
They should have used the 30k vehicles. Gold Land Raiders just look retarded.

>>52255839
How are their Land Raiders more durable?

>>52255769
The fact that the last new SoB model was from 2004 and that Vyridian alone was enough to empty their stocks or SoB models and pretty much every new non marine model get constantly out of stock shows that at least the 40k consumers want something beside marines.
But GW keeps insisting on shoving marines into everything.

Necromunda 2.0! Have more marines of the glorious Blood Angels! Also random generic klanless Orks.

>>52255852

No what they -should- have done is gone "Hey Forge World can you tweak the points values a little on your talons of the emperor list to fit that 30k and 40k point things a little differently? Thanks."

>>52255838
>why would a company not know its customers?
Because GW

>>52255753

>Not a good idea to have a captain flying around the table alone

>Not a good idea to have a terminator librarian walking alone

>Both assault squads and regular terminators are terrible escort choices for both the captain and the terminator

>Captain doesnt have artificer armor

>Command squad doesnt feature all special weapons / is not on a transport or drop pod

>Plays BA but doesnt take advantage of the awesome dreadnoughts or Baal predators

>>52255157
Ride on.

Eldar formations question:
Do I need to have a core formation in order to use the Aspect Host formation? Or can I just use the Aspect Host formation without including any additional formations?

>>52255861

5++, immune to shaken and stunned and venerable. 275 points.

Can only take the las and Bolter one even though everyone knows only the flamer one is any good.

>>52255871
GW working together with forgeworld in any competent manner ? AHAHAHAHAHA

>>52255889
So it's basically what the standard for Land Raiders should've been all along?

>>52255802
i think my great grandkids will be complaining about sisters of battle still not getting an update when playing 40k 15th edition while rolling their holographic dice

>>52255871
gw has a weird relationship with forgeworld. it's like a younger brother trying to impress you

>>52255838
>well memed.

bait

>>52255847
Yhea, I picked DG mainly because of fluff reasons

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Reminder that tyranids love their guns, their guns, which are sentient, love them back and experience pleasure when they shoot.

Also if you're a psyker and you try and communicate with a tyranid gun it will form a groupmind with you and fill with you an overwhelming need to shoot it at non-tyranids.

>>52255753

>Thunder hammer and lightning claw

lmao put an artificer armor and / or thunder shield and get rid of the jump pack

Put it with the command squad on a drop pod with either kitted out melee gear (not fucking chainswords) and an apothecary or 5 special weapons

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>Ramshackle
>6+

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>>52255504
>>52255581
You know, I find it a pity because a proper Armageddon 3 would be a great way for GW to update and upgrade both the IG and Ork armies. It's a great excuse for new models, and with Cadia/Creed out of the picture you have a chance for new IG characters, while on the flip side you have Ghazzy coming back with the hype as the Beast 2.0.

And if Angron *must* come back, then split the book into two/three parts like Gathering storm. Hell, maybe the Orks will pull the upset. Just give us one last grand IG v. Orks battle first, and closure on Yarrick and Ghazghul.


But sadly this won't happen and it will probably end up being Angron vs. Russ or something.

>>52255874
I fucked my list by failing to equip the command squad, no wonder I had so many extra points. Allow me to delete and repost with my real list.

The librarian goes in the terminator squad and the captain in the JUMPPACK command squad.

>>52255951

I'd ditch the command squad and the terminator squad altogether and get a baal predator and an assault terminator squad for the librarian.

/tg/, help me filter down what exact kind of army to run for my next tournament in like May or something.

Adeptus Mechanicus or Black Templars?

>>52255976
Eldar

>>52255034
I would buy it ;-;

>>52255921
That's sexy

>>52255889
Aww, they can't take Redeemers? There goes my cunning plan of making a counts-as Praetorian Servitor squad as a Magos bodyguard and loading them into a Macrocarid being played as a Redeemer. Would be fun, until IA14 comes out and gives us actual Macrocarids, but then they can just deepstrike.

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Not sure if I should ask here or WIP.

What are some good entry level or decent quality airbrushes for my first airbrush? Nothing too crazy or expensive, but something that'll get the job done.

Pic unrelated

>>52255944
I would love this so much, but yeah, probably would be some dumbass shoehorn of a Space Marine character.

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>>52255976
AdMech for the Omnissiah

>>52255944
Didn't GW just do a Warzone: Armageddon book not too long ago? And it was still just the usual Cadians?

>>52255976

>Black Templars

>Tournament

Lmao

>>52256035
Considering tournaments are literally the only way to even play the game here I don't exactly have a choice.

Whats your favourite little known fluff of 40K?

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>>52255970
>>52255874
What's so good about the baal predator? The ap3 flamer? My list originally had a regular predator that could take advantage of overcharged engines.

Is an I6 s5 +1a lightning claw really worth swapping for just +1 to my invulnerable?

I would swap the terminators and librarian for a librarian dreadnought but my friend gave me his terminators for free already. He also sais they were complete shit, that was why he was giving them away.

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Hey, guys! First time painter here. I got a can of CHAOS BLACK SPRAY PAINT and it says to use it in 15-25 degrees Celsius.

Well, that's still about 3 months away for me. Does temperature really effect the final product that much?

>>52256078
Ork topknots are actually squigs/fungal creatures that latch onto the top of their scalp.

>>52256086
Temperature has much less impact on sprays than humidity.

>>52256078
Imperial chainswords are copies of striking scorpions weapons.

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>>52255921
their guns are sentient? woah. what about the ammo? can people even use nid guns? now i'm thinking about some corrupted eldar using bug guns

>>52256078
i forget who it is but there's a daemon prince who can't remember if he's originally from whfb or 40k since he exists in both and jumps through dimensions. it's been retconned by now since they split the universes and whfb 1.0 is dead

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>>52254799
Do you have to be locked in combat to contest an Objective or just withing 3 inches?

>>52256001
Mind control/hypno fetish, heh?

>>52256123
You can contest even if you're locked in combat if that's what you're asking.

If my Warlord Patriarch Returns to the Shadows on Turn 5 and then the game ends on the same turn does it give the opponent Slay the Warlord?

>>52256078
Ultramarines and Emperor's Children switched legion numbers. Ultras chapter banner still has number 3.

>>52256109
>what about the ammo
"The Venom Cannon fires salvos of crystals formed of highly corrosive poison[2] and then coated in a metallic, venomous reside. They are launched with an electrostatic charge at tremendous velocities. A target, if not killed outright by the impact, will be shredded by the hailing shards of shattered crystal, or by the corrosive poison from the shattered crystals. They are also effective against vehicle armour, shattering within the bulkheads of a tank and killing the crew.[1][3]"
>their guns are sentient?
Even their swords are living creatures Anon

>>52256078
Typhus is Moratrion`s brother-in-law.

>>52256148
Did the enemy kill them? No? Then they don't get the points.

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>>52255944
My only gripe with the Steel Legion is the 'everyone wears gasmasks' thing.

Imperial Guard are all about being ordinary humans, I think giving them all full-body covering uniforms kinda detracts from that and makes them look more like faceless super-soldiers/automata like certain other factions.

I'd like them to look a bit more ragged, bit more customised and emphasise they're just regular guys stuck in a really shitty situation, not 'omg these r badass soldiers raised from birth to only follow orders'.

I know the Steel Legion are basically just conscripted gangers from the Underhives but their uniform, if they were going to be the new Default Guardsmen models, isn't fit for purpose for my tastes.

>>52256136
No, do I have to be locked in combat to contest it, or do I just have to be with in 3 inches. Sorry If I worded it weird, my English sucks.

After looking at converting some 30k Mechanicum units for my 40k army and to start 30k, whenever new Imperium stuff comes out I keep thinking of cool ways to make Mechanicus units to use their rules with. Is that allowed? Can I make some Biologis Custodes or something? So easy to ally in whatever you want, really, and it looks better themed.

>>52256198
If your unit is within 3 inches you're good

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Point cost, according to Battlescribe is actually 1766.
So I'm trying to figure out how I should get up to 1850. Which units would you recommend?

>>52256109
>their guns are sentient?
Yes.
>what about the ammo?
Only in the case where the ammunition is an organism.
>can people even use nid guns?
Yes, but at that point the person is psychically linked with every single organism that comprises the gun and it's ammunition. There was an instance where an astropath on an explorator ship which was carrying tyranid samples became psychically linked with a fleshborer, started murdering the crew and when they decompressed the ship and left in escape pods instead of letting the gun die he put it in a stasis chamber to save it.

Later inquisitor Krpytman had a psyker analyze the gun to try and figure out what had happen to the ship. The result was Kryptman shooting the psyker in the chest with a bolt pistol when it established a groupmind with the psyker.

>>52256248

No idea but would love to play against/10

>>52256198
Anything within 3" can contest but you can only ever contest one at a time.

>>52256373
Harlequins.

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>>52256195
Oh, I totally agree with you, and I think the "Cadian" look should remain the standard because that's what the fluff has said, but I still hope to one day see an IG regiment upgrade sprue or something so you can do Steel Legionnaires, Valhallans, Mordians, Warhawks, etc.

But I also feel IG infantry needs and upgrade across the line no matter what. We don't need more/new tanks next time.

Rate my AdMech fix:

>Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus
>units are faction: Adeptus Mechanicus/Skitarii, Adeptus Mechanicus/Cult Mechanicus and Adeptus Mechanicus
>Skitarii Maniple gets an optional HQ slot
>has a "All units from this detachment must have the Skitarii faction"
>add Skitarii Primus as HQ
>Cult Mechanicus Battle Congregation gets "All units from this detachment must have the Cult Mechanicus faction"
>Cawl and similar characters just have the Adeptus Mechanicus faction
>CAD can now be formed using either the Skitarii Primus or a TPD as HQ
>remaining unit selection stays the same
>if a Skitarii is your Warlord, every unit with Adeptus Mechanicus faction gets Doctrina Imperatives, if Cult Mechanicus is your Warlord, they get Canticles
>super formations like Cohort Mechanicus still grant both
>give Skitarii a fast 11-man transport (extra slot for Primus)
>give Cult Mechanicus a flying transport with capacity of 10 or 1 Kastelan Maniple
>convert Grand Convocation into Decurion-style Detachment, change rules to fit that
>increase Kataphron cost by 5 per model
>either change Grav as a whole or add 5 point tax to Heavy Grav-Cannon

>>52256394
I liked the variety with the scions sprue, that there was enough heads to do them all with either helmets or berets.

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>>52256195
Same here, why they never made plastics with the old Cadian design cuts me to my soul.

How stupid is an idea of a tzeentchian psyker commanding nurgle forces? I want to fluff it that the psyker want to combine the magic potential of tzeentch with the power over the dead of nurgle to become a necromancer, so he corrupted a some guardsmen and civillians into nurglites to use as puppets. Is it that dumb?

>>52256388
oh fuck, forgot these guys

>>52256446

Nurgle has wizards dude.

>>52256175
Dont units in reserve/ongoing reserve at the end of a game count as destroyed?

>>52256446
the gods and their followers often help each other out, but not for long

>>52256464
but thats gay

I just wanted to give my nurgle forces some tzeentchian flavor

>>52256435
I agree. I LOVE how some of the models had a single spaulders and such. Now they all look way too generic.

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Okay, which ELDAR ARMY IS THE FUCKING BEST?

WHICH ARMY HAS THE BEST GIRLS?

>>52256409
Forgot to add:
>break up War Convocation into several different small formations that have its rules split between them

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>>52256409
>give Skitarii a fast 11-man transport

Nope, their fluff says they walk to the battlefield and they get crusader from their warlords and dunestrider on most of their close combat units.

They don't need a transport.

>if a Skitarii is your Warlord, every unit with Adeptus Mechanicus faction gets Doctrina Imperatives, if Cult Mechanicus is your Warlord, they get Canticles

Overpowered as hell.

>convert Grand Convocation into Decurion-style Detachment, change rules to fit that

i.e. make it easy to field in lower points so I can cheese. No thanks.

>give Cult Mechanicus a flying transport with capacity of 10 or 1 Kastelan Maniple
>Kastelans
>In a flyer

Fuck. No.

Skitarii could do with a dedicated HQ unit with three wounds so you can play a pure Skitarii force without having a really fragile warlord, but other than that, they're one of the more balanced and competitive lists anyway.

They don't need 'fixing', particularly in the way your describing, which is the kind of fan-biased codex alterations that lead to shit like the current Eldar codex with it's 10pt scatter lasers and 295pt wraithknights.

There are many, many factions in far more need of review than the AdMech.

>>52256435
This. I love the pseudo-lorica segmentata shoulder guards they've got, makes them look less generic science fiction trooper and more inline with the Imperium's aesthetic.

Torsos with ammo link wrapped across it, rucksacks and melee weapons being added to the sprue would help you personalise your models too.

At the end of the day, it's a high model count army, anything that lets you differentiate between your sometimes 100+ guardsmen models would be welcome.

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>>52256542
Craftworlders obviously.

>>52256506
>>52256435
Those would be a good way to represent how Cadians are cut off from having a homeworld now.

>>52256542
So I've been out for a while
What are the Ynarri and how are they different from the other Eldar?

>>52256542
Corsairs

>>52255581
Yeah, I am sorry, you are right I shouldn't exclude you guys, it sucks for you too. Sorry about that.

>>52255944
That would be nice. But is unlikely to happen. We'll have Angron and some other Marine doing something most likely.

>>52256661

Imagine how powerful the eldar are and then buff the shit out of them. That's Ynnari. Whenever they kill something or die, they get to take an immediate move/shoot/charge.

>>52256661
Think of them as a cult of eldar gathered from all factions, supporters of the newly awakened spark of Ynnead

>>52256661
Eldar from every other group who worship The eldar god of death

>>52256661
They're suicide death cult Eldar using a mix of harlequins, craft world and deldar units without battle focus or power from pain.

What makes them different is that when a unit of them dies that soul burst and allow a unit within 7" of them to take a run, shoot, or charge action immediately outside turn order.

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>>52256558
>implying it's hard to field a Grand Convocation in low-point games

It's minimum cost is 300 points and you can get its "Everything has Canticles" rule at 1960 points. It's not a matter of being able to field it in a low point spectrum, it's a matter of actually making it worthwhile to use outside of shit like pic related.

I also meant to imply that Skitarii and Cult Mech lose their respective special rule and that it's solely based on what your Warlord is.

I was also thinking of a Land Raider costed, 250-300 point flier in the vein of a Stormraven. A flying Kastelan Maniple should cost upwards of 500-600 points.

Skitarii fluff also says that a vast majority doesn't use transports, not all of them. The AdMech does use transports and makes extensive use of dropships when assaulting a planet to immediately get their soldiers to the frontlines.

>>52256558
Their fluff says they WILL walk to the battlefield, not that they always do. Hell, Dahan in the Forge books has a custom Rhino with heavy bolter turret he rides into battle and goes all WITNESS ME off of. They do need a transport, because 6+ FnP Scions aren't tough enough to footslog straight up. You think Marines are too squishy to slog, then they certainly are. I wrote some rules for one, and people didn't think that was too bad.

Doctrinas or Canticles on everything isn't the OP part of a Warconvo, its the punishing Canticles mechanic that makes Admech hard to build, since you're actively penalised for playing small games. How is it overpowered besides giving the army a decent USR?

He never said make it cheesy bullshit, he said provide a workable low-points Admech decurion, which looking at almost EVERY OTHER FACTION works out just fine.

Flying transport is a little BS, since Kataphrons being squishy is what balances out their offensive power, but a flyer wouldn't be too out the window, even if they were just reskinned Valks or something like a Vulturax.

We don't want Eldar-level power, we just want to not instantly explode when someone brings S5 AP4 Ignore Cover to any fight ever. There's some really big holes in the list.

Also "There's worse problems" does not prevent anyone from making an attempt to fix some other problems. It's a logical fallacy for a reason, unless you think all the Admech players should go make custom Ork and Nid dexes first.

>>52256661
Eldar death cult. Eldar managed to wake up the soul-gestalt they've been building in the craftworld infinity matrixes since the Fall, and the Ynarri are his worshippers.

They're basically a combination of all three Eldar lists, and in addition to being as overpowered as it sounds, they get a universal 'strength from death rule' which means anytime you kill one of their units, one of their other units within range gets a free action i.e. shooting, moving or assault.

>>52256706
>Think of them as a cult of eldar gathered from all factions, supporters of the newly awakened spark of Ynnead
>>52256717
>Eldar from every other group who worship The eldar god of death
So harlies who are goths instead of clowns?
>>52256726
>What makes them different is that when a unit of them dies that soul burst and allow a unit within 7" of them to take a run, shoot, or charge action immediately outside turn order.
Wow

>>52254799
on wazbom jets people seem to think the tellyporta blasta is better than the kustom kannon.

why? the kustom kannons have double the range? sure gets hot but its tl so who cares.

catachan codex fucking when

>>52255839
Where can i find the new custodes codex/rules?

>>52256675
Thanks, man. Just remember, not all of us are 12-year-old Space Marine gravspam players, just like not every Tau or Eldar player spams scatbikes and Riptides. Personally I think Primarchs were a terrible idea and that the ancient Rogue Trader fluff where they were just generals a la the old Russ model was better.

So, why the shit does the IA Valkyrie faction exists when nothing can start embarked inside it? It even has grav chutes

A unit can only soulburst once a turn right? That doesnt sound as broken as unlimited soulbursts

>>52256795
>So harlies who are goths instead of clowns?

They're closer to Jehovah's Witnesses than goths but basically, yes.

>>52256809
there was one in 3ed.

and a supplement later.

Is a single razorback to serve the transport needs of a captain plus command squad any good?

>>52256845
Yep once per turn, not falling back, locked in cc, or gone to ground.

>>52256822

Henchmen units can take it as a dedicated transport.

>>52256876
they are good if you get them for free and then uprgade them lascannons

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Reminder: Eldar are the most powerful race in the galaxy.

>>52255297
Why would someone make this

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>>52256962
nope

>>52256909
To be fair is there any use for a Valk? Either for Inquistion or IA.

The only thing I could thing off is 3 Acolytes with plasma and a Psyker for Prescience and Grav Chut them into something you want to kill.

Even then is questionable at best

>>52256909

Actually, it's just acolytes, but I guess I missed that. So if I'm using the henchmen Warband, I can take 3 acolytes, an Hereticus Inq, and a bunch of sisters and stick them in a Valkyrie because they're one unit?

Also, why does the aeronautica faction exist then if nothing can start embarked except for that one hq?

>>52256962
Why do I want to sexually abuse those armpits?

>>52257033
because you are a degenerate

>>52257009
You can't. The bonus troops for the Inquisitors are not part of the uber henchmen squad.

Yes IA was the most retardly made codex in recent history

/tg/, which is your favorite Raven Guard successor chapter?
Space Sharks, Raptors or Revliers?

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>>52257033

>>52257051

Well fuck. Forgot that they specifically noted what was included in the uber group. That's stupid. I wanted to make a blob of 20 sisters with jokaero upgrades. God forbid anyone but the eldar get usable cross faction rules.

It's amazing that this steaming pile came out just before Ynnari

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Bloodfag here, what should I add to push my list to 1850 and 2000 respectively?

>>52256962
>Eldar are the most powerful race in the galaxy
>Posts a human

>>52256962
Well yeah, wraithknights are only 230pts.

>>52257059
Fluffwise Sharks. Crunch-wise. I really like the bolter marksmanship of Raptors.

>>52256726
>and allow a unit within 7" of them to take a run, shoot, or charge action immediately outside turn order.

Two. Two units. Their detachment, which is necessary unless you're playing them Unbound, lets two units Soulburst whenever something dies.

>>52256845
Non vehicle, has to be boots on the ground, and it's only one unit. within 7" of the destroyed unit. It makes DEldar a helluva lot of fun to play.

>>52255910
4channers are either poofs/transmentalheadcases/neckbeards/naziautists
You'll never have children let alone any other descendants

>>52256033
That was Damocles

>>52256797
Tellyport blasta is an Assault weapon, so it fires twice when you Waaagh! It also has ID/auto-pen (glance?) on rolling a 6 to wound.

>>52256195
The whole Armageddon look is closed environment
That's why Armageddon sentinels have closed cockpits and similar with others
Just cos your drill sergeant raped you in BT with his big black cock don't bring your mental bullshit here

I've been wondering, why are there no dogs in the Imperium? Considering they are extremely useful, and have co-evolved with humanity for thousands of years already, I don't see why they still won't be around in the far future.

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>Squats are fucking back

>>52257306
Yeah, I get it fits their homeworld, but for the position of Default Guard, if they were going to replace Cadians, I'd like something less faceless, because most Imperial worlds aren't going to be toxic hellscapes where your face melts off if you don't wear a hazmat suit.

Or just options. Greatcoated guard would be awesome, if they had open face options, or fur shakos or something.

>>52257321
Arbites(also probably the Inquisition) use them. Also, what are Space Puppies?

>>52257334
In Age of Sigmar

>>52256074

Nu-templars are bottom of the bottom

Just play competitive space marines painted in black templar colors

>>52257334
They just swapped universes. No problem.

>>52256085

Overcharged + 3 flame weapons is nice

Assault cannons + heavy bolters is nice as well

Or take a mixed predator

Your list looks like you're trying to fit a bunch of minis you have to play.

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Interesting thing I saw today but forgot to save the pic for. Aparently for the armageddon/necromunda reboot, there's an image of an Ork Klaw being +3 strength, d3 wounds and -3 saves. I have to wonder if they are just going to use those rules for armageddon, or if this is foreshadowing 8th ed changes. Its close to how 2nd ed worked, with heavy modifiers instead of outright removing all saves. Terminators would still get a 5+ for example. And it would make monstrous creatures not head and shoulders above vehicle counterparts.

marines would get t shirt saves still against a klaw heh
theres already soooo much that makes marine armor pointless
be nice to get away from that

>>52256078

The Emperor is the fifth chaos god and the saints are its demon princes

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Guys, how shitty is this list? Friendly play only

>>52257401
Terminators get a 5+ save against power klaws regardless

>>52257401
i would love for them to get rid of the ap system.

i always thought warhammer fantasys system of modifiers worked much better.

>>52257418

Why spend all that effort on inquisition and rough riders when you could get more basilisks and leman russes?

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Did Shrike have rules for the smoke launcher at one point?

>>52257458
because he likes them?

>>52256078
Fully regenerated C'tan are as strong as the chaos gods, and the void dragon is the going to be the necron version of the primarchs

>>52257206
>4channers are either poofs/transmentalheadcases/neckbeards/naziautists
>You'll never have children let alone any other descendants
Not that guy but I really think the people who believe this would be fucking shocked to learn how many mentally adjusted normies and successful people actually browse 4chan. It's not a secret clubhouse for edgy loser outcasts only.

>>52257401
Marines having t-shirt saves against all but the most devastating weapons would be fluff appropriate. Not even a Klaw can cut through their armor without even the slightest bit of resistance.

>>52257470
Inquisition is terrible taste compared to artillery and cavalry, which are top-tier.

>>52255403
Sorry you made it sound like it was impossible to make a 6 noise marine list that was solid good list.

>>52257458
I really want a Inquisition warband in my army.
I put the rough riders in my list with objective securing in mind. I don't have anyting else in my list wich is good at last minute capping.

>>52257469
He still has them in form of Stealth.

>>52257401
>I have to wonder if they are just going to use those rules for armageddon, or if this is foreshadowing 8th ed changes.
It's because it's LITERALLY Necromunda which uses the rules from 2nd edition. It's always been this way, this isn't a new development and isn't a hint at 8th.

I would love to go back to those rules but there's absolutely no reason to think that they're doing that because of this.

>>52257497
i wasnt aware you had to choose units based on how strong they are, not if they fit your theme or just your liking.

ill get rid of my 10 man nob squad right away.

>no C'tan Codex
>no sub-plot about Tomb Kings in Space vs Vampire Cunts in Space

>>52257524
WHo would be the vampires?

>>52257524
I wonder if Vampyres and the Magical Undead would work in 40k.

>>52257567
Blood angles are kinda already vampires. And they have Nurgle zombies.

>High Marshal Helbrecht
>Chapter Master of the Black Templars
>considered one of the greatest naval commanders in the entire Adeptus Astartes
>leader of the fleet during the Third War for Armageddon
>can't call in an Orbital Strike

Fuck you, Games Workshop.

>>52257589
Tbh im glad zombies are relagated to shitty nurgle turds.

They're way too overdone as a fantasy enemy and im glad theyre not that prominent in warhammer 40k

>>52257520
If you're a cuck that enjoys getting decimated then field your nobs I won't stop you

>>52257589
No but I mean mythical vampires that command legions of lasgun-armed skeletons and tomb horrors

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>>52256819
>just like not every Tau or Eldar player spams scatbikes and Riptides.
There is no need to lie anon.

>>52257604
>Calling an Orbital Strike when you could be running up and smashing those Orks' faces in with your fists
You are a disgrace to Dorn's geneseed.

Trying to decide between Blood Angels and Raven Guard. Which army would do a jump pack heavy list better and how big is the power gap between them?

>>52257666
Raven guard just get stealth, at least with blood angels you get furious charge and blackrage.

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>>52257651
>I'm a Tau player
>Own 1 Riptide that doesn't see play under 1250

Your move, anon.

Whats the relationship between forgeworld and GW? If you play games in a gw store will the frown upon or disallow fw models?

>>52257694
any riptide at all is heresy. even thinking about a stormsurge is heresy.

die tau scum

>>52257666
Raven Guard get access to more loyalist goodies, including the option for Skyhammer.

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>>52257756
>reeeeeeeeee Tau reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
That's what you sound like right now.


Something I've always wondered...all the Tau, Eldar, Space Marine, Daemon haters, what do you play? It doesn't leave much...

>>52257503
Miscommunications happen all the time.

>>52257795
orks

>>52257750
Depends on the manager
Technically they shouldn't be allowed to stop you but the stories suggest American managers are cunts about it even though you can report them about it

>>52257694
>using a riptide at 1250

You're still the worst kind of player

On a scale of 1-10, how big of a waste is it to give my Her step Sorcerer in terminator armor a chainfist for smashing the tanks he can't zap?

>>52257795
Imperial gaurd you fucking WAAC cocknob. Cant wait until the next codex nerfs the shit out of you

>>52257655
>not nuking the filthy Greenskins from orbit and charge into the fire, flames and splattered Greenskin guts to decimate the rest of them using Dorn's own legacy in form of the Sword of the High Marshals

Learning to use all your available assets is an important part of winning war in the name of our Emperor and our Father.

>>52257795

CSM

I can't wait to drink your tears when riptide become 400pts

>>52257839
>REEE Nobody can have good rules! Every army must be shit like mine!

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>>52254953
Can't kill perfection

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>>52257694
>Own 1 Riptide that doesn't see play under 1250
>I'm poorfag and I can't get more riptides, stormsurges and ghostkheel
>also I must buy every useless upgrades and proxy the shit of everything in my army to being able to play games above 2000
Tau aka the poor man's army

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>>52257520
>taste
>how good they are
I was questioning your taste, not your ability to WAAC. Artillery is pretty much the best thing ever.

>>52257839
Why are IG players the worst

>>52257795
Tyranids, get fuck you tau and your privilege.

>>52257823
>>52257885
>Posting twice just to make a memetext

Anon, are you alright?

1250 and above is when people start bringing their big toys, too. 1 Riptide won't table you so stop acting like it can.

>>52257896
arty is just placing pie plates everywhere

so much fun man

What's the best bloodthirster to lead my daemonic host? Or should I use a different greater daemon

>>52257944
that's the most fun it's possible to have

>>52257685
>>52257784
Sounds like there isn't a huge power difference between them then. I'm leaning a bit more towards Raven Guard since they seem to have a couple of fun looking formations. Thanks!

>>52257957
the best in life is being up and close and beating your enemy to death with their own limbs

you will never know that feel humie scum

>>52257694
Serves them right for playing shitty armies right now. Keep your Orks and IG (interplanetary defence force) for the next edition but pick up a better army if you want to have any chance against 80% of what's even played.

>>52257694
>animeposter
>tau player

2/2 on the megaautist scale

>>52257563
C'tan, duh

that's why they are vampire cunts in space who order around their oldcrons

>>52257940
>1250 and above is when people start bringing their big toys, too. 1 Riptide won't table you so stop acting like it can.
Get fuck, unless you're another tau, eldars or grav spammer a single riptide below 1500 will need the whole army to deal with it, meanwhile the rest of the tau army will casually shoot you to smithereens

>>52257392
>Your list looks like you're trying to fit a bunch of minis you have to play.
Pretty much.

I was given some of it and have bought some of it already so I'm making the best of what I have.
But, I THINK they have good synergy with each other.
It's generally a fast, melee capable force that can move 12"/deepstrike so everything will hopefully be in their deployment zone turn 2.
Everything is geared to have a good shooting attack and to be decent in melee, at least enough to crush MEQs with red thirst and furious charge.

>>52257957
>>52257944
It's actually the opposite this edition. Artillery makes the shooting phase take much, much longer

>>52257484

Why would a C'tan in full command of his powers and faculties help the necrons? Wouldn't they, you know, be pissed as fuck at them for betraying and destroying their race?

>>52255935
>increase ramshackle to a 3+
>But for every passed roll, the passengers inside take d6 s4 ap- hits due to shrapnel

>>52258021
>single riptide below 1500 will need the whole army to deal with it

Might want to check your dice if you're rolling that bad, buddy.

>rest of the tau army will casually shoot you to smithereens
What do you want them to do, pull out psyker powers? Melee?

>>52258021
>Trying to kill the Riptide first
>Not mopping up all his markerlights and scoring units leaving him with a single AP 2 blast each turn

>>52257424
But if its like 2nd ed, they would get a 4+ against plasma guns, as they were minus 2. Which would be nice.

Do Asterion Moloc & Ivanus Enkomi fit into the SM Command formations or are they stuck out?

>>52258021
>a single riptide below 1500 will need the whole army to deal with it,
A what now? I play Admech, IG and Sisters of Battle and I never have problems with riptides even in 1k games.

Because I have thing called "adequate amount of antitank".

>>52258093
>>52258082
>Trying to reason with antitaukids
You are almost as stupid as tau players.

>>52257956
Best BT is the D weapon greataxe
Competitive armies don't bother paying full price for him but spawn one from a cheap herald of tzeentch with Kairos as warlord.

>>52257517
what about hope? Thats a reason.

FUCK TAU

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>>52257033
because you have god-tier taste

>>52258091
Unless a formation specificy you can take a specific unique character, no you cannot bring them in the formation.

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>>52258155
Yes please

>>52257956
Take the regular one with skull reaver and two greater gifts, swap the gift you dont want for a blade of blood.
+1s, 2ccw, rampage, 6s to hit are strength D.

For 320 points it's the best all rounder, able to crush both knights and swarms of infantry before they get to strike but you're forced to bank on 6s for the knight.

>>52258229
Sauce? Looks like a good artist.

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>SJWs haven't infested the hobby

http://pantmonger.tumblr.com/post/158572046907/commissar-fotze-pantmonger-i-love-when-the

>>52258256
Why are most male sjws virgins?

>>52258256
what a complete faggot

>>52254887

Better to buy some off eBay rather than but a whole new box of dudes. I uncovered some old-school pewter Dark Angels in robes and decided to make them my allied Blood Angels Death Company. Bought 10x jump packs off eBay for like $8 after shipping.

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>>52258256
>female space Marine
>having a shitty SJW "I NEED SPECIAL ATTENTION" haircut
>not being bald like the rest of them
>looks more like a tranny than every sob model

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>>52258256
>"ima great artist and u cant stop me from making girl space marines XDXD im not mad ur mad"

wow 40kids btfo

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Hey all, trying to get back into the 40k after a few years out and I was hoping for some critique on this list. I'm trying to keep it simple for now while I get caught up on how things work and in case 8th is really right around the corner.

I know Tau has a reputation of being cheesy but I am trying to avoid that- the fluff behind this army is they are more of a COIN/policing force than a front line unit with all the fancy Riptides and Stormsurges.

Thanks for any input!

>>52258244
Not him but the artist is krekk0v

>>52258366
How many Fire Warriors can you stick in your anus?

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>tfw the special spark you felt when you first got into the hobby is long gone

>>52258373
You're alright in my book, anon.

>>52258256
I really don't care what he believes but
>the only reason that there CAN be that are not female marines is HATRED OF WOMEN
>anyone who disagrees with me on this or holds their own opinions must be doing so out of a SECRET HATRED and I will personally ATTACK them because of it
>I simply MUST get my way, this MUST happen
He sounds like a truly unpleasant person to be around, it's no wonder there is such a backlash against him and his ilk in politics these days.

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>>52258256
The problem isn't his spehs muhreens are female, it's that they're shit.

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Thoughts? Gonna play casually versus pretty much every army.

Warlord gains Master of Ambush so Sterns, Devs and Vanguards don't need transport

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like my list? any flaws? thermal exaust ports?

>>52258397
Time to find a new hobby

>>52258434
Yeah, too much info

give me the best fucking tyranid buff of all time, lads

>>52255000
Fuck yes

>>52258413
Swap the power weapon for lightning claws or a power fist.

Put the missile launchers in sniper squads.

>>52256794
Why is this death gestalt they've been building for thousands of years 210 points and weaker than a knight?

>>52258458
you know those, what are they called, venom cannons?
Make them ap2.
Make the rupture cannon ap1.
give, uhhhh, I dont know but give some other shit shooters of theirs rending.

>>52258462
Because space elfs are only good for lewd.