What are some /tg/ games will Excellent Fluff, but awful crunch?

>>52236329
Exalted springs to mind.

>>52236329
Shadowrun. I wouldn't call it excellent or even good but it just does something that nothing else really does. The rules make it a fucking nightmare to get people into though.

File: underground.jpg (289KB, 850x1069px) Image search: [Google]

289KB, 850x1069px

>>52236329

DnD/Pathfinder

any 40k rpg

>>52236447
people are going to assume this is bait. but im being serious.

RIFTS

>>52236429
I'm intrigued.

>>52236447
>any 40k rpg

Seems like it's 40k in general desu

If it wasn't for the insane lore, literally nobody would give a fuck at all.

>>52236485
the rpg's are a special kind of shit though. Only war is missing pages. Not the pdf, the actual in-print book refferences things that dont exist. theres a sidebar in one of the books that is supposedly continued from another page, but when you check that page there's nothing there.

>>52236329
Scion, easily the best example

>>52236329
>Elder Scrolls
>excellent fluff
Fuck off Todd

>>52236339
If someone brought in a 'fixed/unified' version of Shadowrun, would you look into it?

>>52236645
Elder scrolls had literal god-tier fluff, at least before Kirkbride left.

File: 1484392744650.png (599KB, 748x758px) Image search: [Google]

599KB, 748x758px

>>52236701
>Elder scrolls had literal god-tier fluff

>>52236329
>Excellent Fluff, but awful crunch
Isn't this the standard?

>>52236740
Nah, often the fluff is shit too

>>52236651
Yes, but not if it's the janky Shadowrun Anarchy thing they tried to do.

>>52236637
This man speaks the truth.

>>52236447
>DND/PF
>excellent fluff

>>52236329
RIFTS

>>52236339
Use 2E rules

>>52236447
>40K RPG
>bad crunch
nope

>>52236626
Doesn't count, it's satire. That's like complaining about the original Hackmaster being a shitty AD&D clone.

>>52236447
>40k
I agree with the crunch, but the OP specified good fluff as well.

>>52236339
SR's rules aren't even that bad. They are a crunchfest but it's really workable.

>>52236329
CthulhuTech springs to mind.
The reboot looks promising, at least.

>>52236339
>SR fluff
>excellent

Maybe in 3rd edition but not now.

>>52236329
Partial 1e-2e-3.5 D&D, things actually followed on, had continuity, edition changes were in-lore events, and they had a running comic book series which is Canon.

4e-5e threw it all away for nu-males, dosh, negroes, and Neverwinter Online annd a failure at trying to become the next MLP.

>>52238468
>Good canon continuity
Drizz't is forever shit.

>>52239558
Let's try to pretend this is the universe where he didn't kill his sister, and was also ousted by Lloth for being the autistic supported by her blessing that he is because he's such a Drow failure he went full circle, and his hype eventually get's him killed when Demogogron slaps him into the lowest layer of the Abyss, where he gets the Kaldor Draigo treatment.