Age of Sigmar General /aosg/

>>52226503
First for Beastmen!

True Scions of Chaos! True Inheritors of the Realms!

>>52226544
Second for beastmen doing that liberator. Show them what a hammering means.

Good evil themed armies when?
Chaos are gay

>>52226570
Chaos Dorfs are literally best Chaos Faction simply because of being actually evil

>>52226570
Join destruction, bonesplitterz and beastclaw raiders are cool.

>>52226544
>yfw Beastmen get their battletome and become god tier

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Alright, ya'll, Renegade Freeguild dude here >>52216341

Just wondering about thoughts in regards to the Maulerfiend+Juggernaut monstrosity I was thinking of making. I've actually seen some people doing conversion work on the Maulerfiend and at least the Ectoplasma Head is perfectly scaled to fit onto a Juggernaut. From there, the center of the chaos star on the Juggernaut's shoulder looks like a perfect spot for a weapon mount. And the lasher tendrils make an A+ tail. I see a fuckton of potential, and was just wondering what the thread and any particularly inventive kitbashers thought of the idea.

>>52226570
Chaos Renegades, bb. Feign praise of the False God, worship the true power of the Burning Machine.

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NEW ELVEN ARMY WHEN?!
I WILL BUY 2000 POINTS DAY ONE
WHO CARES ABOUT RETARDED DWARVES AND ORKS FFS
REEEEEEEE

>>52226704
Stupid frogposter.

>>52226704
that's a nice pepe friend

>>52226704
You've already got a release.

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>>52226615

new dwarves when?

>>52226779
That didnt count and you know it
I want a full tome with new models
and I want it RIGHT NOW

>>52226799
April, 4 releases, one a week, for the whole of April.

>>52226439
Yeah that's fair enough. Picking up an army with a battletome gives a much "safer" feeling that picking one without. I'd say wait, there's been rumours of shadow/horror aelves and it's a safe bet that Freeguild will be updated at some point.

That said, Death is more than playable (linking >>52226483 since this answers him too). Soulblight have Bloodknights which are great elite cavalry, probably some of the best in the game. The Vampire Lord is a great buffing hero, or a beatstick if you put him on a Dragon. They also have a better ogre-equivalent than Flesh-Eaters. A battletome for these guys would be great but other factions need it more.

>>52226807
>I want a full tome with new models
Just buy eldar.

What Battletomes did we get this year?

Only Stormcast?

>>52226835
I dont like eldar

>>52226849
>implying new aelves faction wouldn't look like eldar

>>52226704
Real men play mounted Elf lists.

Seriously. Between the Glade Riders, Wild Riders, Sisters of the Thorn, Warhawk Riders, Glade Lord on Great Stag/Eagle and the Sisters of Twilight, you have a shit ton of options for making a mounted Wood Elf army.

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>>52226858
We know what shadow Aelves look like. Not eldar.

>>52226858
Maybe the troops
I dont like eldar because of thier vehicles

>>52226875
Except they are kind of sucks and it's literally no point to start building one of the old armies

>>52226875
I am not starting age of sigmar until the new elves come out, not wasting money on old unsupported units

>>52226893
That's literally mix of shadowseer and dark eldar.

>>52226893
>it's literally just a Dark Eldar model but with crescent moon bling

>>52226893
Whats that from

>>52226913
>shadowseer
It's definitely farseer/warlock kimono

>>52226937
Silver tower ya dingus.

>>52226963
Since when DE male mages were allowed to live?

I want to convert the new dwarfs into miners for my Dispossessed.

Anyone know of some heads they think would fit on them?

>>52226975
Doomfire Warlocks, my boi. Speaking of, jesus some of the DE units are just bonkers weird. They've got a lot of interesting gimmicks. Like the Sisters of Slaughter. Add two to their saves in combat, and if you get a 6+ on the save -- which would be a 4+ because of the bonus -- you roll another die. On a 4+, mortal wound at the enemy.

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>>52226893
and the other one.

Question in regards to rerolls. That only happens once, or? Like if something lets you reroll 1's because of a shield and you reroll another 1, do you get to reroll again or just have to take the 1?

>>52227071
they only happen once, and you cannot reroll a reroll, of any type

>>52227041
Doomfire Warlocks are also one of the few wizard units in the game, and I think only one of two (correct me if wrong) whose magic becomes stronger the larger the unit is. A full squad pumps out 6 mortal wounds and needs a 4 to cast. Pretty neat, if expensive.

>>52227097
Probably all that shimmering rage for being a male unit in the Daughters of Khaine army.

>January: Disciples of Tzeentch
>February: Stormcast Eternals
>March:
>April: Kharazandingdong Overlords

What can we expect this year?

>>52227185
Nurgle, I hope

>>52227185
Aelves and Slaanesh at some point in the summer.

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>>52227185
More dispossessed please.

At least an update to warriors and quarrelers/thunderers

>>52227185
Isn't 40K's 8th ed rumoured for this summer ? If it holds true, that'll take most of the spotlight for releases.

>>52227185

Not sure, I'd expect Slaanesh in Summer.

>>52227208

We'll get a KOS before GUO

>>52227246
Fuck off we dont need more fucking dwarves

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>>52227246

>>52227246
Sorry, Squat. The Age of Dispossessed is over. The Age of Overdesigned Trash has begun.

>>52227185
I just want notMalekith and his shadow Aelfs.
Expecting a new Great Unclean One and a new Keeper of Secrets down the line.

>>52227276
Fuck off, Anon. Pirate Dorfs are great.

>>52227288
Cogfop, go home. Your parents are worried.

>>52227254
KOS?

>>52227299
Keeper of Secrets.

Can we get a fucking Death army instead?

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>>52227288
They are too over designed and too autist steampunk for me.

I can appreciate why people like them though.


What I don't appreciate is people talking shit to me just because I play with an older army.

>>52227308
There's going to be a Death army later this year. Nothing's really known about it, though.

>>52227312
It's one guy, he's been shitting up threads for days. Old armies are great.

>>52226503
Why is AoS so weebed out lately?

I just want to say that the gaunt summoner is a very cool model

>>52227342
Couple of threads back people were wondering where all the weeb art for AoS was. Then some anons figured 'fuck it, might as well draw it myself' or went poking artists to do it.

>>52227328
Sauce on the death army?

>>52227413
Rumour: Death

Type: New sculpt models

Date expected: 2017

Contents: Unknown Death Faction

Source: Leaked GW report

Estimated cost: £?

That was in the rumour thread in the OP.

>>52227239
These 2 plus a death army are my bets

>>52227342
Jokes aside, I found the art-style was okay (minus boob-plate, but that's not something that we can't exclude western artworks of fantasy) so I decided to make the joke about this. I seriously didn't mean the -chan part to be taken seriously.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s08RvZrXkWL6

I liked this moment. Grymn is so based.

Hm, Scourge Privateers seem pretty fun. And that Merwyrm from Forgeworld is a fuckin' monster to look at.

1000 pt
>3 Black Ark Fleetmasters
>2x20 Corsairs
>2x1 Scourgerunners
>1 Kharibdiss
>Realm Reavers

1500 pt
>Whatever

2000 pt
>4 Black Ark Fleetmasters
>3x20, 1x10 Corsairs
>2x1 Scourgerunners
>2 Kharibdiss
>1 Merwyrm
>2 Realm Reavers

Would it make more sense for Beastmen to join forces with destruction rather than Chaos?

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>we finally get a new death army
>its these guys and they become the death posterboys

lel

>>52227629
>Beasts of Chaos join Chaos
Whoa there, what a shocker.

>>52227608
Merwhyrm is destruction tho

>>52227629
No.

>>52227632
That would be great actually. A whole Army in the Nagash Necro construct design aesthetic would look dope.

>>52228125
What would their basic infantry look like?

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>>52228136
A western version of pic-related where each one have a soul trapped inside?

>>52228263
Oh that's nice.

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>>52227629
>>52228058

I could see them potentially allying themselves to a particular WAAGH! or atleast tagging along for the purpose of eradicating a particular settlement. Allthough I think a much more suitable scenario would be if the beastmen follow the WAAGH! at a distant to pick off the human survivors from the greenskin devastation of the area. To me beastmen have always been more of opportunistic scavengers than anything else. Sure they ambush the odd patrol and merchant caravan but I don't really see them attacking something outright when they can wait untill it has been severely weakened.

>>52228136
I'd like something bigger/better than Grave Guard, but smaller than Morghasts. Basically big skellies, the Death take on Stormcasts and Blood Warriors.

Fluff them as having been created from a combination of corpses. The agility of aelves, the tenacy of duardin, the strength of ogres, the fury of orruks, the cunning of grots, the versatility of humans, etc. Different sects have more of different races so players can get "their dudes". MC sect has more human, but the close combat one has more orruk (for example).

>>52228136
Wheel skeletons and skeleton towers and literally any dark souls enemy could work

>>52228376

Thanks. I picture them myself as a technological advancement from the common zombie and skeleton warrior. Something much more robust and sturdy with the drill of an automated machine. Having some kind of chariot/magical machine that increases their potential through connecting them directly to a necromancer's mind would be neat aswell. Such a contraption would make them work like the extension of a single mind instead of just following its general orders.

>>52226503

Have any female stormcast eternals shown up in fluff yet?

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>>52228263
Sweet, I've even got models for it already.

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>>52228525
Yup.

>saurus sunblood is sold out
RRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>52229459
Slann are just Pepeposters.

>>52226503
>Weeb shit OP pic that makes it hard to find AoS general in catalog

McFucking kill yourself faggot OP

>>52229543
ctrl+f

Age of Sigmar general/AoSg

>>52229568
This is always how I find it in the catalog. Get's me there faster.

>>52228525
I want stormcast girls to be a thing on the tabletop. I don't give a shit about equal representation, just give me my magical realm.

>>52229568
>Chiggity check yourself

Prior to riggity wrecking yourself

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>>52229766
Well, let's appreciate that we actually get SC art now.

>>52229766
Me too thanks. I want to have sex with them.

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>>52229543

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>>52227208
I wish a nigga would, I've just started my commitment to papa nurgle, got some blightkings, plague drones and plaguebearers in the works. I'll be buying the Glottkin next and using the rider and sorcerer as heroes.

>>52229766
Stormcast and daemons are pretty much the only thing that makes sense for women to be a part of in AoS. Arguments about str and speed go out the window when you're a supernatural being

>>52230108
But Girls only play Lizardmen or Tyranids.

>>52230108
Bloodreavers too, unless you want to say not one woman in the entire Age of Chaos went "hey, getting eaten really isn't my fetish, so I guess I'll join you faggots."

>>52230218
Cause lizardmen and tyranids are cute, CUTE!

>>52230108
Vampires
Elves
Wizards

>>52230303
Lizardmen are indeed cute, but Tyranids are *sexy*.

>>52230310
I'll give you vampires and wizards, cause those are supernatural, but not elves. Elven women would be relatively weaker and slower than elven men, and the same restrictions would apply to them.

>>52230218
They also play trees.

They like to paint flowers.

>>52230383
I mean, I've seen girls play almost every army except sisters of battle. But it is funny that most of them do tend to play nids and wood elves

The girl at my lgs plays ghosts/vampires

>>52230218
That's nice asspulled data you got there

>>52230418
The girl at my FLGS plays Firmirach and has an...interesting backstory for them, especially given their rape-y nature

>>52229926
SNU SNU

>>52230218
It is because they to are cold blooded creatures, guided by instinct only to consume and pro-create.

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>>52230336
Elven women are better archers. It's well known.

>>52227342
The previous weeb-shit were awful but this one is neat IMO

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>>52230218
>>52230383
>>52230418
>girls
>play
I seriously hope you meant to say "paint"

>>52230418
Nobody plays SoB cause they are fucking impossible to collect.

>>52230548
Basically

God the fyreslayers are such a fucking WASTE of a release
So much other shit could have filled that spot and they release naked ginger dwarves.
W
Does anyone even like them?

>>52230624
I like their lore and shit, but the models could be better.

>>52230624
I like their look, lore, and aesthetic and even the way they play, but I think they are overcosted in everything. Luckily they are getting a points drop, but we'll see if that's enough to make them even halfway competitive.

I don't collect them, but I would if I had more disposable income.

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So /tg/, how do I go about turning these into diving suit heavies for my steampunk sky pirate dorfs?

>>52230624
That was ages ago. Why rant about it now?

>>52230699
I clicked a battlereport with them in and got triggered
FILTH

>>52230717
>FILTH
no u

>>52230548
My GF is running an Aelf army right now because we have splitted a SoD box but she would like to start an Ironjawz army

>>52230534
Those look pretty great, better buy a box for my wife.

>>52230624
>he doesn't give his fyreslayers gray rock or obsidian black skin

>>52230826
Oh shit! This is a great idea.

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>>52227208
>>52230054

I'd just love to see some Chaos Warriors sworn to a single deity. I feel like it was a huge missed opportunity for GW to not release something akin to my pic but with an armour shaped to make the wearer resemble a Tzaangors and other mutated things. Wouldn't it be awesome to have Chaos Warriors with scale mail shaped like the feathers of an exotic bird? Instead we got the Kairic Acolytes who imo just looks bad and are only saved by the fact that you can make some decent slaaneshi marauders out of them with a headswap.
Hopefully we'll get to see some fine slaaneshi warriors in the next Chaos release. If so, how would you like them to be?

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>>52230861
Aren't these guys basically Tzeentch Chaos Warriors?

>>52230886
Nah, they are more akin to Tzeentch marauders as they are pretty much naked.

>>52230886
They are Tzeentch Marauders. Tzaangors are closer to Chaos Warriors.

>>52230336
>Elven women would be relatively weaker and slower than elven men
but there are no elven men

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>>52230886
>>52230906
Also, they don't look particularly tzeentchian. They can however be converted into quite awesome looking followers of Slaneesh.

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>>52230919
As a non-player of AoS I don't see the resemblence between Tzaangors and Warriors of Tzeentch. The former are reasonably unarmoured beastmen while the latter are heavily plate armoured humans wholly dedicated to their divine patron.

>>52230984
They're supposed to largely be secret cultists who can blend into crowds of regular people.

>>52231047
Its equivalents really. Like, if you were to run just arcanites and tzeentch daemons and you wanted melee units to hit the enemy, Tzaangors are your go to.

>>52230861
Is that guy's mutated arm whispering to him?

Fuck, I love GW's wacky direction in model design!

>>52231114
He used to be a character in Warhammer Fantasy, the Curseling.

They were twins, merged.

The mutant one controlled the big one, Master-Blaster style.

New fluff is that the big one used to be a sorceror that got corrupted with a sentient tumour that whspered secrets to the big one. Now it's a generic hero unit.

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>>52231064
Indeed which the Kairic Acolytes doesn't look anything at all like.

>Buffest fucker in the neighborhood.
>Tall like a belgian dinka.
>Bird fetischist.
Yeah that sure spells incognito mode.

A box like the Empire's Flagellants with additional cultist apperal, such as hooded robes and shit would've been the bees knees. Secret cultist look the best if they just come across as larping normies.

>>52231173
They use change magic to become buff.

>>52231114
It's a great model allright. Looks just like the way I want my mutated warriors/chosen. Cronenberg up that shit!

>>52231233
Would've been better if they used something else to gain some advantage in battle, to further differentiate between the Chaos gods. Leave being buff to Khorne and Slaanesh.

>>52231173

One of Tzeentch's many schemes was to normalize bird fetishism so that his cultists could better blend in. Nobody's going to suspect that the totally normal and not weird neighborhood bird fetishist is going to turn out to be a weirdo Tzeentchian cultist, right? Because bird fetishism is normal and Chaos is weird and stuff. Everyone knows that!

Just as planned...

What is ur-gold and why do Fyreslayers obsess over it? All this fluff about their battles is
>oh man they sure do like ur-gold, they search for ur-gold and fight for anyone who gives them ur-gold, and the venture forth to acquire more ur-gold so that they can get more ur-gold and have sex with the ur-gold and marry the ur-gold and have runesons with the ur-gold and ur-gold ur-gold
it's literally worse than Space Wolves

>>52231416
Was some of his former plans to normalise bodybuilding and eugenics aswell? If so then my hats off to the big bird in the sky.

>>52231420
Ur-gold is shards of their god that they use to create runes to hammer into their flesh to empower themselves.

>>52231420

Ur-gold is gold that's yours and not theirs.

>>52231431

As for the eugenics, I can't say. I mean he is big on mutation. Bodybuilding? Well, I suppose Tzeentch got bored of the many millennia in which his subjects have been known as lanky bookish-types and decided to change his cult precepts to also require mandatory lifting. I mean, the God of Change needs a change too, now and then.

>>52231470
Yeah it's not unreasonable that Tzeentch has some pretty hench cultists, but I don't think anyone imagined that was the norm. I'd personally preferred a squad of bookish aspiring wizards.

>>52231648

Aspiring Wizards is more of a support unit than something you make the meat of your cults. They can do well up in the leadership, but you need a lot of muscle for your cults since, even though they do have a good deal of magic, they don't have as much as your proper sorcerers so they need some supplementing.

Then there's Khorne who supplements his basic muscle with advanced muscle, and Slaanesh and Nurgle who take either muscle or nerds as support and leadership, depending on merit.

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>>52231733
Would have been much nicer if they went with the ragged masses for a theme. The cults of Tzeentch could easily disguise themselves as political gatherings for the downtrodden and poor. The lower classes would flock to Tzeentch as they see the diety as a patron who will lead them into a societal revolution where they will finally bring the rich and the nobles to justice. And as we all know from history revolutions are a great time for change as revolutionaries and counter-revolutionaries fight for control of the state which inevitable leads to scheming,splits and infighting within the myriad of factions that are born and created as a response to the political climate. Politics being a major part of Tzeentch I feel that it has been woefully underrepresented in the actual game.

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I think they took some inspiration from game of thrones cultists in that latest season, not the church ones, but the ones in that city with the dragon queen woman. Names of anything completely evades me right now. Maybe not, I dunno I like them either way.

>>52231892

That sounds more wfb than aos. We ripped muscle dudes now.

>>52232144
True, but even in the multiplanetary divine battlefield that is the AoS-setting there most be a lot of unhappy low income families in urban centers right? Right? Please?
It would atleast make the setting more interesting on the micro scale to see that not everything is sunshine and roses in the realms ruled by Divine Sigmar.

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>>52232175
Yes, yes there are.

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>>52232230

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>>52232246

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>>52232261
This is from that new Warhammer Quest, by the way.

>>52232230
>>52232246
>>52232261
>>52232275

Oh, that's kinky!

This is the type of shit I'd like to see more of!
Having masses of cultist/street scum like that mixed into a big unit with a big dash of mutations and random chaos stuff would've been the bees knees!

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anyone excited about Shadespire?

>>52232561
Isn't that just Gorechosen, But With Stormcast? Pass.

>>52232581
Nope. Core set is Stormcast and Bloodbound.

There are more.

>>52232581
Maybe,maybe not no-one knows

If I buy beastmen do I just need to put them on round bases? It looks like they still come with squares.

>>52232561
>>52232581
Yeah I was under the impression at first it was aos mordheim, which would have been super sweet, but it seems to just be arena combat including all the factions. Which is meh.

It is designed with matched play in mind, and while I prefer matched play, I don't think this is something we need. It reminds me of the arena pvp matches from wow, if anything.

>>52232634
> All the factions
Looking forward to Ironweld Arsenal vs. Collegiate Arcane.

>>52232630

Yes.

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>>52232660
WELCOME...TO ROBOT WARS!

>>52232630
No. Nobody gives a shit. It's better if you do, but GW says to use the bases the model comes with.

>>52232667
Thanks. Doesn't really matter on the size right? I've got a lot of 32mm from space marines I don't need

>>52232724
Ignore the troll. The official line is "Use the base the model came with"

>>52232724
I use 32mm, seems like those are GW's new default anyway.

I use square bases to get all my quarrelers right next to each other and get them all in range.

>>52232753
WHERE ARE THE PROOFS

>>52232724
20mm squares convert to 25mm rounds

>>52232760
Except square bases have a distinct advantage over rounds because theyre smaller. More models can reach over each other in melee with squares. Because of this, most tournaments are beginning to move toward banning square bases, or else essentially people get penalized in gameplay for using rounds.

>>52232799
I use 32mm rounds, not squares.

>>52232816
sorry, >>52232799 meant to reply to >>52232753

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>>52232561
Oh boy, is that some Stormcast and Bloodbound? I've not seen those factions fight before!!!

>Think it might be some cool Death related thing
>Yet again more god damn mother fucking Stormcast and Bloodbound.

>>52233264
>core set

>>52233264
It's an arena combat game for matched play. the cover art is just using bloodbound vs stormcast

>>52233264
It should have been death vs orcs or trees desu.

Or Death vs looted orc trees.

>>52233411
>It should have been death vs orcs or trees desu.

It is.

>>52233448
Am i mistaken or is it not Bloodbound and SCE?

>>52233505
The starter box is, but there's expansions for the other factions.

Note the "Core Set" on the cover.

>>52233505
only the artwork is

>>52233535
>>52233524
ah ok. ty.

>>52230493
EXPLAIN. IN GREAT DETAIL

>>52232561
>Forge World sell fucking Fimirach which would be perfect for something like this since they aren't really an army
>They will never get fucking rules

FW WRITE RULES REEEEEEEEEEEEE

Ooo just got a great idea.
Scourge water ships using mist to travel around with spooky Cthulhu theme

>>52233683
Isn't that basically what Cthulhu Aelves are supposed to be?

>>52233683
Literally Firmirach's schtick but Forge World won't ever get around to writing canon that isn't Horus Heresy garbage, and Games Workshop won't fucking acknowledge FW models in their fluff.

>>52233746
GW mentioned those Chaos jet fighter things FW makes recently.

>>52233783
40k I assume then? Because they seem fine with referencing FW stuff if it's 40k, simply because of MUH HORUS HERESY

>>52233817
Yeah, though not seen them ention FW stuff before in 40k stuff.

>>52233711
Yeah but with the new duardin release it really gives me hope for some nice cutters and sloops

What should I build first?

Island of blood skaven x2
Mantic undead army (30 zombies 40 skeletons 20 grave guard 20 ghouls and 10 mummies )
Battle for skull pass x2 and o&g army box (30 boys boss 20ng fanatics 10 spideys a boar chariot and 20 blackorcs}

I used to play whfb this is what I have unbuilt


Oh and aos starter

>>52234682
Island of Blood Skaven.

>>52227063
>we doesn't to sexualize womyz, so we replaced DE witch by male witch
top kek
Also, pants and back much closere to DarkEldar

>>52227312
>What I don't appreciate is people talking shit to me just because I play with an older army.
Becuase you are just a clown who will beg for update and will never get it, but thanks you, you make this game more fun for new armies

I got the Ironjawz Thunderfist battalion and finished building everything. Where to next? Other than the obvious purchase of Start Collecting!, what should I pick up?

>>52235075
In the words of every Ironjawz player ever:
More Brutes.

>>52227312
dude, you're like me a few weeks ago, suck it up and move on, maybe the dispossessed will get a new update, its not worth getting salty

>>52235048
What? Afraid his superior elven form will turn you gay? Go back to /pol

>>52235112
I currently have a boss with klaw, a boss with choppa, 6 with dual choppas, and 2 with gore-choppa. How should I kit up another 5 brutes?

>>52230675
use the hands, replace one with a big hammer, carve out the head and put the gyrocopter pilot in the hole, use the rest of the gyrocopter parts and greenstuff to steam-punk it out a bit more...
What would be a good way to use this as?
Was thinking of doing one as a steam tank

Speaking of Chaos while I was at work, was wondering if I could get some thoughts on the fluff of MUH DUDES from >>52216341 from people that are more familiar with the Mortal Realms setting. These guy's used to just be a Border Principality that was controlled by fairly heretical students from Nuln's College of Engineering who sought more freedom to innovate in forbidden areas of their craft, ie daemon engines.

Mostly just wondering what to do about their faith. Chaos Undivided or give them a patron god likely either masquerading or hidden behind the facade of their artificial machine-deity.

>>52235197
Pretty good, man.

I'd pick a god, personally.

Though I might be biased. Papa Nurgle loves you!

Rules question. The Big Orc Black Boss describes him as such:

"Some Black Orc Big Bosses are armed with
a Deff Choppa and a Tusker Shield, while
others wield a pair of Deff Choppas. Some
Black Orc Big Bosses instead enter battle
with a single Slaughter-choppa."

Are the statlines for a pair of Deff Choppas and a Deff Choppa with shield the same? Shouldn't they lose an attack? Do they essentially lose an attack by missing out on the Chop, Chop, Chop rule, or not?

>>52235290
6 attacks for Deff Choppa, no extra attack on 6s with the shield.

>>52235329
Ah okay. So you don't lose an attack persay, you just lose the chance of extra attacks.

In that case, what's the better way to equip one. I received a free second Megaboss and want to convert him.

>>52235158
The klaw is the best option for a boss. As for the rest of the squad it depends on how large you want each unit to be. Units of 5 want dual choppas, and 10 or more want gore-hackas.

>>52235359
Damn. Then I'll have to just buy 10 brutes!

Would it be unwieldy to field the dual choppas I have together, or should I separate them always?

I'm sorry if I seem annoying--I've never actually played AOS, just lurked for several years after having been big into 40k in high school.

>>52235369
It's wouldn't be unwieldy, but you typically won't get everyone in range to attack in combat. Gore-hackas have a longer reach so it makes them more effective in larger numbers. Also one of the main reasons to run larger units is to have a good target for the warchanters buff. Until you get him it might just be better to run separate squads.

>>52235343

Okay so I'd say use him as a bodyguard for the other boss/other heroes, since he gets the to hit bonus, plus he's tough and the shield gives him a bonus to saves in close combat.

So you'd want a deff choppa and shield for that.

>>52235148
>What? Afraid his superior elven form will turn you gay?
Nice projection.
>Go back to /pol
Problems with /pol/?

>>52232275
>dual wielding bastard sword and sigmarine's hammer
Is that Barbarian from Diablo?

>>52235562
He isn't duel wielding them, that's called carrying things.

>>52235148
It's the slav shitposter. He is ban evading.

>>52235285
Yeah, I was sort of thinking so, but I'm not really sure who to go with to represent the technocracy's now frenzied quest for perfection their craft. I mean, Khorne is the obvious fit for physical skill and they do make primarily create instruments of war, but I don't really know if he works the best for mental acuity. Tzeentch sort of works, but I think there was already a Tzeentch cult masquerading as good guys on the Realm of Fire during the Age of Chaos.

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>>52235146
I'm not salty.

I don't need updates for something that ain't broke.
The eternal Dawi will shit on anyone.

>>52235600
Nah anon, I'am just 40k player who found this miini funny.
And yeah it looks pretty like DarkEldar except half-naked part

>>52235850
>I'm not salty.
Yes you are.

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>>52235967
>Y-Y-Yes you are!!!!

Nah.

>>52235993
Then why you are bitching about things which irrelevant?

>>52235197
Cool fluff, I think we might have something here. It's known that fucked up shit goes on in the warp outside of the realms of the gods. Maybe they worship the daemons outside of the big four? The daemons of chaos lore in GA:Chaos speaks a little about them. That would do good to fit in the undivided daemon engines.

>>52236016
I was but I got over it.

>>52236068
>I was
>>52227246
>>52227312

>>52236086
I just wanted model updates desu.

I don't mind my rules.

>>52236092
>model updates
Never ever, it's pretty obvious, so stop bitching about it.

>>52227328
>Old armies are great.
Previous thread showed that they aren't

>>52236113
Stop being a fucking nigger about everything.

>>52236051
Got any more info, can't seem to find GA:Chaos in the Mega. Are they the standard old lesser Chaos gods, or new things? I mean, I guess I could go for something like Hashut but it just feels like a cop-out. Like I said in the other reply, Undivided will probably be what I go with, though actually something like Malal might work.

>>52236156
>Stop being a fucking nigger about everything.
Emmm what?

>>52236176
Not really. The fluff is really bare, but in the formless wastes, you can make up any minor deity.

>>52227246
Think your fucked anon, cuz there's probably not going to be much dorf stuff for the next year or two. Elves are maybe next and then maybe Slaanesh. and after which who the fuck knows, probably some destruction army.

Cuz who even plays death anyway ;-;

How good are soul grinders in AoS?

>>52236226
Death army after Slaanesh, Anon.

>>52236226
>Cuz who even plays death anyway
Idiots with old minis who still thinks they are relevant?

>>52236276
1. Stop ban evading.
2. I play skellies with Necromancer (all hail King Ethelred IX!) and am capable of winning games. Fite me.

>>52236289
>1. Stop ban evading.
I am not evading anon.

>>52236275
bullshit, I'll believe it when I have new spooky mini's in my cold, tear-covered hands

>>52236276
>Idiots with old minis

>t. newfag who thinks he is cool just because his models are new

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>>52236301
>Doesn't address my second point

Besides which, you are the anon who responds to anyone who tells this thread that they use old armies with the same tired phrase again and again and again without providing any substance to the statement. This leads me to believe that you are a shitposting troll, and thus related to that one asshole who had 46 out of 130 posts all to himself, if indeed you are not that "person", quotation marks used because holy shit that guy has no fucking life.

>>52236289
Stop talking to it!

It just encourages the shitposter.

>>52236332
>he is cool just because his models are new
Yep, because my models will have support in future, unlike yours.
>>52236365
>any substance to the statement.
How "the old armies will never recieve any support, stop bitching about them" isn't substance?
>This leads me to believe that you are a shitposting troll, and thus related to that one asshole who had 46 out of 130 posts all to himself,
You mean few threads ago when someone starts making jokes about new dwarves?

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>>52236452
>dwarves

I fucking knew it.
AoS babbys are disgusting. It's dwarfs you fucking lop.

>>52236468
Duardins*

>>52236452
>The old armies will never receive any support
What are Seraphon, Sylvaneth, Flesh-Eater Courts, Daemons of Tzeentch, Skaven Pestilens, Bonesplitterz and Beastclaw Raiders?

>stop bitching about them
This is an argument I can agree with.
Saying it every time someone says that they are playing with an old army is tiresome. Well, almost every time. You didn't use that response to my statement of what army I use, so at least you have some restraint.

>my models will have support in future
They might, we don't know that
>unlike yours
Objectively wrong - Disciples of Tzeentch, which includes Daemons, got their tome this January, after a drought of new battletomes.

>>52236468
>>52236552

Don't argue with this guy, you'll just wish you didn't.

>>52236552
>What are Seraphon
Furry fetish?
>Sylvaneth
New army with new models.
>Daemons of Tzeentch,
40k daemons with new models for mortals.
>, Bonesplitterz and Beastclaw Raiders?
Ironjaws support packs.
>Flesh-Eater Courts,
>Skaven Pestilens,
Something what disappear in the second edition.
>They might, we don't know that
Yeah sure GW will update some old shit like old Dors or classic elves instead of Sylvaneths

>>52236558
If he keeps going (which he will, because "people" like him crave the last word) then others might believe his bullshit. I do not want that. I do not want this thread becoming a shitpile.

>inb4 "but it's already a shitpile"
Yes it is, because he's here.

>>52236624
I tried. He just ends up pissing you off because all he does is repeat himself forever no matter what you say.

>>52236624
Wondering if this is the guy that got triggered over me saying aos had a mythic fantasy feel to it.

>>52236552
Not him, but
>Seraphon
Changed into Order daemons and still was a new-ish army with a lot of gaudy CAD models that fit the Sigmar aesthetic
>Sylvaneth
Pretty much a completely new army, desu.
>FEC
A relatively unused chunk of the VampCunts turned into an army, and with a pretty amusing lack of model diversity. Horror/Flayer pack, the only Ghoul King is the one on the TG/ZD kit, and then vanilla Ghouls. Oh, and the Vharg.
>Daemons of Tzeentch
I mean, no-one's assuming they're just going to straight drop a Chaos God -- hue, Slannesh, hue -- but it is nice to see some new models. Though the only person I know that got any of 'em was for 40k.
>Pestilens
I mean, I don't think anyone is surprised that the Skaven are still going to be supported when the Rat took Slaanesh's seat.
>Bonesplitterz
True, but then we also got those hideous Ironjawz at the same time.
>Beastclaw Raiders
Genuinely well-handled.

I think the dude's mostly talking about shit like vanilla Dwarves, State Troops, things like that. I mean, looking at what has happened with the Dwarves, it seems pretty clear that GeeDubs is trying to push dwarf players into picking up one of the two new lines of dwarf miniatures rather than just using the miniatures they've been using for decades. After Flaming Naked Gingers on Dinosaurs and Cogfop Balloonists, getting some generic and classic fantasy dwarves seems a little unlikely.

I don't think anyone would disagree that GeeDubs is going to try to push players to buy new shit, and the easiest way to do that is to "update" the aesthetic of various factions. Which means that a lot of the older lines that don't really match the same style as Bloodbound, Ironjawz, Slyvaneth, and End Times Undead will naturally be pushed to the edges. Supported? Sure, with legacy battlescrolls. But eventually replaced with stuff more fitting with the general look of the game.

Just my $.02, and I'm the Renegade Freeguild fag.

>>52236647
They are gonna have to wait.

Vanilla dorf players are the most stubborn motherfuckers on the planet just by virtue of the army they play.

>>52236624
>thread becoming a shitpile
I have some bad news anon. These threads always become shitpiles.

>>52236678
>They are gonna have to wait
Yeah like SoB and IG players

>>52236608
>furry fetish
It's SCALY. Get it right!
>New army with new models
What are Dryads? What are Treemen?
>40k daemons
Because daemon models TOTALLY haven't been cross-system compatible for literally their entire fucking existence, amirite lads?
>new models for mortals
Yeah, that's why the army is called Daemons of Tzeentch, because it has non-daemon models in it.
>Ironjawz support packs
Where's that WHY SO EASY image when I need it!? Also, Kunnin' Rukk negates any real need for anything else from Destruction.
>Something THAT WILL disappear in the second edition
>source: my ass
>sure GW will update some old shit
Reread the list of old factions, realise that there is a trend, and expect this trend to continue. It's what I did, and lo and behold, I'm right, while the shitter who's coming up with shit in his own head is wrong! Fancy that!

>>52236647
Well, I disagree with the part about the older stuff not fitting with the setting - for example, I would bet my bottom dollar that Eshin will get an update somewhere way, way down the line (probably as an adversary faction for the elves of Ulgu) simply because they're ratman ninjas, which is something over-the-top enough that it can fit. They did get a new model with Silver Tower, after all.

And I do agree that GW is going to push players to get new stuff, but I'm holding out hope that that means they'll try some new sculpts and faction expansions rather than exclusively making new factions out of whole cloth. I mean, they can only do that so long before they start running out of even derivative ideas.

>>52236685
I can't tell if you read the inb4 or not.

>>52236624
>then others might believe his bullshit.
You mean?

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>>52236723
I am an IG player and a dwarf player.

Bring it.

>>52236725
>They did get a new model with Silver Tower, after all
Rats, or aelves?

>>52236732
>I love npc armies
What a fag.

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Hey. New to the game, bought an Ironjaw box set. Gore-gruntas are shit tier so planning to build a force consisting of pic-related and as many ironfists as I can fit in the points limit. Good idea?

>>52236759
>npc

Oh it's this faggot again.

>>52236732
>playing npc races
lmao

at least you aren't an ork or nids player

>>52236725
Some older stuff does, some older stuff doesn't. I didn't state in mine that all factions that previously existed would be faded about, in fact I pointed pretty fairly towards the contrary. The stuff that can be made to fit likely will, but even then it will likely find its aesthetic changed so much as to be mostly unrecognizable.

FEC are a great example. FEC are technically following in the footsteps of the Vampire Counts, but they take loose inspiration in some regards, closer inspiration in others, and completely reinvent other parts. Dwarves got turned into the Fyreslayers and the Overlords, and I can almost guarantee that no Dispossessed update will ever be coming down the pipe. Freeguild will likely get turned into something -- generic dudes that fight against strange monsters and horrors with training and teamwork is pretty great -- but I can guarantee you they won't look like the decades old Holy Roman Empire expies that their current line is.

But just like none of the dwarf players I know want to play Fyreslayers or Overlords, I doubt many Empire players are going to want to play the Cometcrash Legions, armies of humans clad in armor festooned with as many comets as a Hurricanum's wheels, fighting almost exclusively with comet maces, with comet helms and comet shields or the Gryphon Lord's Aerie which are gryphons, demigryphs, gryphounds, and weregryphs. And it's a lurking doom that a good number of the old armies likely face since GeeDubs seems far more interested in completely reinventing races rather than simply updating models for the lines that already have both an established line and an older aesthetic.

This is the stuff that saves things like Oggors who, aside from the name-change, have fared pretty well in AoS. They had an established line but the update they got early in 8th gave them the giant monsters that fit nicely into the new visual look of the game. And Eshin who did have some older models but no real established line.

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>>52235489
Don't worry, I'm not projecting. I already love it.

>>52236781
Well technically Orks and nids still can getbsome good updates, unlike current dorfs, humans and elves

>>52236759
>Rats, or aelves?
Both, actually. Mistweaver Saih and Tenebrael Shard for shadow-aelves, Deathrunner for Eshin.

>>52236781
See
>>52236778

>>52236829
I reckon the Freeguild HRE-expy aesthetic can fit with the rest of AoS - it's overwrought and elaborate, much like the new stuff, just in a different way. I reckon it works. Just update the sculpts for the old Freeguild stuff and that's done.

And yeah, no Dispossessed update anytime soon, but I say that's because they got an update in WHFB 8th ed. They're already pretty new, so why redo them again?

>>52236993
>Mistweaver Saih and Tenebrael Shard for shadow-aelves,
And they both looks nore like Eldar, so I pretty aelves release will looks like wraithbone armor instesd of IoB aelves for example

>>52237027
I disagree. I've seen photos of Tenebrael Shards and Witch Elves next to each other with a unified colour scheme, and they fit together well, even taking into account the fact of the 8th-ed Dark Elves update.

>>52236829
It's simple. New shit with new artwork won't get changed.

So shit like wanderers will get an update

>>52237046
>Tenebrael Shards and Witch Elves
Yeah because they al half-naked, but ST guy have simmilar to DarkEldar pants, weapon and stuff on his back

>>52237116
Girl. The Mistweaver is female.

And I don't think she fits the Dark Eldar aesthetic - she isn't wearing nearly enough leather. Her mask has the look, though, and I can't remember how her staff looks.

>>52237115
>new artwork
What do you mean by "new artwork"?
Also, about "muh 8th edition updates" the last 8th edition (except ET) models update was 3 years ago.

>>52237129
>Girl. The Mistweaver is female
Really? Because hands says it's male.
But nevermind, it's still mostly farseer kimono with DE reaver's helm.

>>52230624
They are a very good idea given terrible models. Who greenlit them? It's rare that GW designs miss the mark by so much.

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DARK ELVES WHEN?

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I have no idea if those have already been posted, but they are godly.

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>>52237282
I mean, I reserve the right to not like the rules, but all the work on the graphic of the battletome is awesome for a fanmade one.

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>>52237289
It come out Wednesday the 22nd at Mengel Miniatures if someone is interested.

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>>52237255
>DARK ELVES WHEN?
Never

>>52237294
>>52237289
>>52237282
If that level of visual design continues through the whole book my hat is off to them, because it looks pretty amazing.

>>52237309
pls no

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guess im going for some femcast then

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>>52237372
Embrace your destiny

>>52237378
>Black SoS
Oh GW, please

>>52237147
Her torso says "female".

Try the 360-degree images when you go on the webstore, they can show you some important details that you may have missed.

>>52237389

Of all the things you can be upset about in 40k among quintillions of Imperial citizens you are upset one blank happens to be of a dark complexion?

>>52237389
They are just some Salamanders working undercover

>>52237401
It's not upset, but it's a little on the nose?

Why not black, female, in a wheelchair, and a famous warlord?

>>52237429

What does having a female blank born to a sub equator group of people have to do with any of those things?

>>52237438
It has everything to do with baiting you.

Question guys.

I have old Warhammer models with square bases, do I real need to replace the old bases with round ones to play AoS?

>>52237398
>that you may have missed.
Such as?I sow barely showed boobs, but thought it's just fluttering clothes of kimono

Do you guys think they will ever release bretonnians?

>>52237498
No but you probably will eventually

>>52237498
Could have just googled that.
Yes, square bases are fine. Round bases are commonly preferred, but nobody will raise a stink about old models being on square bases.
Some anon here even has stormcast on square bases.

>>52237530
You will get bretonian themed free people

>>52237530
They are called Flesh-Eater Court

>>52237389
I dunno they have that tina turner mad max beyond thunderdrome or conan vibe. Black women usually look much more convincing as female warriors and amazons than whites.

>>52237498
Nope, distance counting from models weapon.
So what's your top modellines who will TombKinged in future. Here is my:
1) Empire (except Hurricanum and probably demigryph)
2) Dwarves
3) Elves
4) Probably some old greenskins infantry (goblins, boys)
5) IMO. most of VC infantry and cavalry
6) Seraphons (I think it will happen with new edition of their battletome)

>>52237378
I wonder how well they'd work for SCE. They lack any high-tech gubbins and the swords come with the same lightning bolt design the sigmarite weapons often have.
Heads don't work, though.

>>52237564
>lots of gibberish
You are either baiting, deluded or fairly dumb. Nobody gave a rat's ass about tomb kings, but everything you listed bar maybe standard Orcs are popular armies.

>>52236725
>What are Dryads? What are Treemen?
Just two boxes.
>Because daemon models TOTALLY haven't been cross-system compatible for literally their entire fucking existence, amirite lads?
Okay, I was wrong about Chaos armies. But WoC and Beastmen most likely will be replaced by Gods-armies.
>I'm right,
Nope you are wrong for most of old armies and current trend showing it.

>>52237586
>WHFB
>popular armies.
pick one

>>52237586
Its the same guy dude
Stop replying

>>52237608
Comperatively popular, then.
Also, in AoS at least Seraphon are one of the most popular armies and people still collect Dispossesed, Freeguild and all manner of aelves regularly. Not to mention VC stuff being just generic Death stuff and thus required.

>>52237647
>Comperatively popular
Not popular enough by GW standarts, so such argument is invalid.
>Also, in AoS at least Seraphon are one of the most popular armies and people still collect Dispossesed, Freeguild and all manner of aelves regularly.
Proofs?
Also, rule-wise they are all not great so they will never recieved popularity of new armies among the newcomers.

>>52237660
Ah, you are that guy. I appologize, I should have known.

>>52237615
I see that now. Pardon my moment of stupidity.

>>52237378
They looks much smaller than Stormcasts.
irony, but they could a perfect Solkan mortals

>>52237723
>Ah, you are that guy.
You mean? There is a plenty of people who agreed that most of old armies will never get any real updates.

>>52237660
>Shit armies won't be popular
>Bloodbound

>>52237818
>>Bloodbound
New models

>>52237821
So it's the models, not the rules, that make an army popular then, right? Well then there's one easy way to make older armies popular...

>>52237282
Excellent. What saddens me is that there's so much fan enthusiasm for the TK, and GW still won't update them in any way.

>>52226898
Sounds like you kinda suck and there is no point in you.

>>52236725
>I can't tell if you read the inb4 or not.
U super did not. woops. But you know what? Fuck you, I'm not wrong.

>>52237867
>So it's the models, not the rules,
Not always.
>Well then there's one easy way to make older armies popular...
But who the fuck needs them?

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>tfw played savage orcs in WHFB
>tfw savage orcs are the only legacy army with actual support in AoS

>>52237895
If they weren't cut, you wouldn't see any of this enthusiasm. This is purely a case of people wanting something because it was taken away.

>>52238321
>wanting something because it was taken away.
Not because it was taken away, but because it's never come back, pretty sure a lot of people wanted TK update after Cruddace killed army

>>52237990
>But who the fuck needs them?
Anyone but you, I guess?

>>52238405
>Anyone
Who?

>>52229543
So its officially the new op image then

>>52238396
Are those fenrisian wolves? They look pretty cool.

>>52238528
Yeah, with the 'ead git on a Thunderwolf.

I'm testing a few colours but right now I've decided that I'm going with based Duncan's Thunderwolf tutorial and get some Dryad Bark as the basecoat.

Still need to figure out how I'll model the Shaman.

Does anyone have any ideas of how I could model a plastic wurgogg prophet? Because fuck finecast, especially with the model standing on one foot.

>>52238140
>they are better than the space marine orcs

>>52238588
Maybe a savage orc with a skink priests feathery bits?

>>52239170
>>52239170
>>52239170

migrate to new realm

>>52238140
Strigoi, Daemons of Tzeentch, Ogre Kingdoms, Lizardmen and Pestilens need not apply, I assume?

>>52236760
Go crazy man

>>52235810
Why not Slaanesh? The strive towards perfection is one of his fundamental aspects.

>>52231892
But that is, if only briefly mentioned, part of their fluff. They find a lot of their followers in the lower classes of Sigmar's new cities.

>>52240090
Wouldn't that just mean that my suggested version of Tzeentch followers is extra suitable instead of what we actually got?

>>52235418
There are reasons for doing multiple things with ironjawz as this anon is pointing out. Bigger squads means more models are affected by buffs such as warchanter or weirdnob. However, larger brute squads means less squads which lowers your chance for megaboss's command ability going off. It also lowers the number of boss klaws/bashas in your army since when the megaboss's ability does go off, you gain +2 attacks (1 for each weapon).

The ten men squads of brutes are less affected by Bravery (since you get +1 for having 10 guys, I think that benefit stays for the first battleshock?) and when you do get the occasional guy to book it, you aren't that devastated as if a guy from the 5 man squad runs.