MTG Modern General

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>>52223583
You think this is clever? Autism

>>52223645
it's just pasta that showed up last night

Are these cards considered the archetypes for their colors? Not sure how path to exile would be played since i'm a noob

Also if you want to tell me OP combos with these cards or how they're used I love to learn

>>52223645
Calm down and step away from the bottle, Brian. Against all odds there are people that care about you.

>>52223693
Those are cards in Modern Masters 2017 you filthy plebeian.

>>52223704
>Lightning Bolt
>MM17
At least you tried

I want to build landfall zoo and play Renegade Rallier, Knight of the Reliquary, and Tireless Tracker but I'm afraid thats too many 3-drops. opinions?

>>52223714
>he didn't get the buy a box promo
Filthy plebeian.

>>52223583
>one day he is going to be playing commander with his wife's son
>he is going to be wasted out of his fucking mind because the secondary market has gone completely out of control
>one of his dragon sleeves for his liliana is going to split mid shuffle
>he will then fly into a drunken rage and start beating his son while screaming many magic the gathering players ask the quesition who's fucking kid are you

>>52223693
what the hell are you talking about

>>52223645
You got triggered you old faggot!

Is Skred still a thing?

What should I cut from this deck? The point is to delve into fatties, and then if need be evolve them. I run 2 Griselbrand, just because he's always decent to have, pretty much wins on the spot if you play him against aggro decks. There's also Iona, who can only be cast off evolving a Gurmag, but regardless she still wins against any combo deck you might not think you're winning the race against. Like a gurmag, a couple lands, an evolution and a draw spell or 2 is good enough to keep against any combo deck, cause they just cannot win through Iona. Another thing I like about Griselbrand, is outside of their Planeswalkers, Eldrazi Tron and Death's Shadow Jund have literally no way to beat an early Griselbrand. Also we run Death's Shadow to just burn through our deck with life and fetches and thoughtseize, and then play him as an additional beater, yeah he's not good with Griselbrand but if we have a Griselbrand and are attacking with more than 13 life we're probably good. It's pretty fun cause you're just burning through the deck, and Delving out guys so fast and then Death's shadowing, It's pretty great. Also Manamorphose helps fuel delve, it cycles, and I use it to fix for GG a bunch. Anyways I need to cut 4 cards off this deck, Also the removal I think will be 4 cards, not sure which 4 cards, I'm thinking some combo of Push, decay, and dismember. So let me know what you think
Land (19)
2x Breeding Pool
1x Island
4x Misty Rainforest
2x Overgrown Tomb
4x Polluted Delta
1x Swamp
3x Verdant Catacombs
2x Watery Grave
Creature (19)
4x Death's Shadow
2x Griselbrand
4x Gurmag Angler
4x Hooting Mandrills
1x Iona, Shield of Emeria
4x Street Wraith
Instant (12)
2x Abrupt Decay
2x Fatal Push
4x Manamorphose
4x Thought Scour
Sorcery (14)
3x Eldritch Evolution
4x Inquisition of Kozilek
4x Serum Visions
3x Thoughtseize

>>52223693
Yeah, they're generally considered the defining cards of their colors.
>Path to Exile
This is good because it's perfect spot removal, and quite a few decks have few if any basics. Usually the decks that would play aren't too concerned if their opponent does fetch a land.
>Snapcaster Mage
Usually used to repeat an earlier spell, like forcing your opponent to discard another key card, countering a spell from the grave, or closing a game with a Bolt-Snap-Bolt.
>Liliana of the Veil
Usually used in Black/Green strategies where they don't mind discarding their own cards(or gain an advantage from it), and the second ability helps them keep the opposing board clear.
>Lightning Bolt
Very versatile spell that removes a variety of creatures, can help swing a combat by dealing damage to a tougher creature, or bring your opponent's life total down.
>Tarmogoyf
With the variety of spells played in Modern his conditional size is rarely a drawback, and he epitomizes the best green has to offer(creature beats).

>>52223764
This brings up a question I have: are ANY of the other snow-covered basics used in Modern in any way? Or is it all Skred all day.

>>52223907
Gifts decks use snow-covered plains and islands to guarantee land drops if they can't go for sword+thopter/unburial+fatty combo.

>>52223721
Do a split of 4 Knights, then 3 and 2 of the others at most. 2 and 2 or less would be ideal.

>>52223907
Nothing in Modern interacts with Snowlands beside ColdSnap set cards, and Skred really used the best of them. They don't really have a use other than to look pretty in other decks.

>>52223789
First off, TappedOut is a thing. Use it.
Second, the deck looks cute. Makes me think of Kiki - Chord style toolboxing. You can cut an Inquisition, generally a total of 6 inquisition/Thoughtsieze is best, and DS favors seize. Also, you can easily cut 1- 2 Mandrills. Then I would probably cut a Serum Vision, but I'd have to play the deck first to make sure.

>>52224089
Yeah, I guess cutting 1 inquisition is reasonable. I don't like cutting 2 Mandrills though, maybe just 1 I could see, but I have honestly never really had the problem of not being to delve hard enough to cast all my fatties. Maybe I could cut 1 though, seems like an okay place to start. Lastly, I like the cantrips, they set up the draws really well, and sorting an Iona or griselbrand the fuck away from your hand always feels nice. If anything I'd cut manamorphose, but I really like having that one too. So right now I think it's definitely reasonable to cut an inquisition and probably 1 monkey, and a cantrip is probably correct, I'm going to see which helps me more, morphose or visions, and even though it seems obvious that serums is better morphose does help me fix a lot. So that'd leave me with 1 more card to cut, I'm still debating. But thanks very much for the input, I agree with a lot of what you said.

>buy MM3 box
>one mythic (Bonfire of the Damned)
>no fetch lands
>no Path
>no Inquisition
>no Damnation
>no Blood Moon
>3 (three) Stoic Angels
I've become so numb.

>>52224205
Post pics

>>52224205
Pics or it didn't happen

>tfw have to wait 6 more weeks for Preordain to not get unbanned

Fuck this gay earth

>>52224205
https://youtu.be/nSF7eySM2Tc

Here's a blast from the past to be your theme song.

>>52224551
I think you meant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmJ_74snrjk

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>>52224496
>six weeks

That's a weird way of spelling 'never' there, Anon

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This is my current Bant Eldrazi list. I'm pretty happy with it overall but I'm not sold on the MB Blessed Alliance. Does anyone know what else I could fill that slot with? I already tried dismember and I wasn't a fan.

>>52224886
You could play a French copy of Delay to express yourself.

>>52224886
Cut Reality Smasher

>>52224911
>cut a 3 or 4 mana 5/5 trample haste which is almost always card advantage
Lmao

pulled a venser and foil cavern on my first MM17 pack, don't think i'll be buying packs any time soon

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-67-13-tix-modern-mono-red-burn
how much better does this deck get with full sets of guides, eidolons, and swiftspears?

>>52224940
Post boipucci

>>52225048
Seconded

>offer to take son out to draft MM3
>"Sorry, Dad. I'm going out with the guys tonight. I think I've outgrown card games."
Cat's in the cradle, lads. ;_;

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>>52224886

Modern Master Race runs Mana Tithe as a fun-of to fuck with people.

>>52225120
>leddit tokens

m'lady

>>52225109
>getting btfo by your chad son
Lmao

>>52225109
time to beat some sense into him

>>52225015
How terrible do the foils look?

>>52225120
I like that. Maybe I'll try a Stubborn Denial MB.

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>>52225165
cavern is pretty good, but i think it's cause of the art

>>52225242
Kill yourself faggot

>>52225242
shitty traps don't get MM17
maybe if you trimmed some weight off you'd get a daddy to buy you MM17, fatty
1 pack for every pound lost, that's my deal

>>52223583
Does he really shill for card kingdom after getting 20,000 a month for making youtube videos?

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>>52225237

Maybe it's just the angle but that looks gorgeous. I would beat my dick against the wall to pull one of those.

Has anyone seen any other foils with new arts?

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>>52225237
Damn, that is a nice foil. If I didn't already have a playset of original caverns I'd consider trying to get a set of those foils.

>>52225294
yeah dude the hands sticking out and glowing is really sick

people have been giving foil snap praises but haven't seen one yet

Should I buy 4 misty for 100 dollars or will it go lower

>>52224940

Are you a 20 something qt Japanese girl who will sit on my face?

>>52225331
That's really good if the Misty's are at least LP

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>>52225367

Trap?

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>>52225367
>girl (boy)
das it mane

Bets on anything in Amonkhet being modern viable?

I'm hoping they push the fuck out of Nicol Bolas

>>52225367
How's your ass?

>>52225517
Curses hopefully

>>52225517
Zombies

>>52225517
No. It'll be another set with pushed as fuck standard mechanics that aren't quite good enough to justify playing in modern.

Nicol Bolas may be pushed enough. It will be pushed enough to ruin standard, that's for sure.

>>52225517
I really want Amonkhet to give us something good enough to push zombie tribal into being an actual deck.

>>52225540

Revolt is modern and legacy playable. Fatal Push is a thing.

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>>52225531
>>52225548
>yfw no zombies in amonkhet
>all mummies

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>>52225548
Disregraf colossus seems poised to be really great if zombies ever become real

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>>52225531
>>52225548
>mfw Amonkhet pushes Zombies to be on the same level as Spirits

Wizards JUST THIS ONCE DON'T FUCK IT UP

>>52225604
Spirits are fucking cancer, CoCo decks in general are fucking retarded

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Stat me.

>>52225622
Liliana the Last Hope tier

>>52225622
7cmc obviously

>>52225622
The only good member of the gatewatch/10

>>52225634
>le Mary Sue faec

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>>52224205
>Buy "masters" set
>pull pretty much jack shit

What a fucking surprise, I'm glad I just order singles for my legacy decks

>>52225634
Agreed

>>52225634

If Nissa's views towards other races were still /pol/-tier I would be down.

>>52225677
>Shitpositng in the modern general
surprise surprise

I bought a Masters box for 180. I am three booster packs in and have 80 in value from the rares. Am I doing good?

>>52225701
This is the state of modern general

>>52225622
Jesus, wouldn't those boots get uncomfortable in the desert? At least Gideon changed out of his plate for Amonkhet.

>>52225720
A E S T H E T I C S >>>> anything else

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>>52225714

>modern general
>full of people who bought into the modern meme

What did you expect? Everyone knows the good general threads are for Kamigawa Block Pauper Tiny Leaders. Obviously the best format.

>>52225622
You'd think they'd try to fit into their surroundings more, instead of Liliana wearing her purple princess dress, and Jace his belts and hoodies.

>>52225714
That's why I'm moving to EDH

>>52225701
>if you 3-0 tonight at MM3 release you get boipucci as prize support

So, this was Maro's plan to save modern, eh?

>>52225781
Lel

>>52225016
If I had to choose between a playset of goblin guide and a playset of eidolon of the great revel, which is better

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>>52225845

Goblin Guide. Way more versatile and will never become unplayable. New art is fun too.

>>52225845
Goblin Guides, all the way.

>>52225517
U/G card that isn't shit

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I may be doing ok.

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>>52225875
Yeah the new art is great

>>52225959
I hope you didn't spend $240 for that box.

>>52225959
>he actually spends money on cardboard rectangles
Lol just buy from the chinamen like everyone else in this thread.

>>52225701
Literally the reason people hate faggots, they just have to be faggots everywhere

>>52225793

You could get a job...

>>52225953
What would you want anon

I'm assuming this is for RUG delver or midrange

>>52225959
>Not even worth MSRP as of right now
Lmao

>>52225953
UG is for faggots, play a real color like black

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>Pay $240 for a box
>Foil Arid Mesa
>Scalding Tarn
>Goblin Guide
>Foil Basilisk Collar
>Two Paths
>One Inquisition

Never again Wizards. Im fucking done. I cant handle doing this fucking shit anymore.

I'm going to a $25 MM3 draft tonight and I am going to shoot up my LGS after playing draft. This isn't a joke, watch the news.

>>52226042
Sorry bb, tempo for life

>>52226053
Yeah, I told everyone before it's still the goyf/lili lottery. You either pull a goyf or lili or have an insanely good box like foil fetches and snaps and shit, you're gonna either break even or lose money

>>52223530
WB Tokens

4x Inquisition of Kozilek
3x Thoughtsieze
4x Lingering Souls
4x Spectral Procession
4x Intangible Virtue
4x Bitterblossom
4x Path to Exile
2x Zealous Persecution
2x Soring, Solemn Visitor
1x Liliana of the Viel
1x Elspeth Knight Errant
3x Timely Reinforcements

Just went 3-0-1 with this list at GP NJ last week, which isn't saying too much because I somehow only played against Grixis control, but despite feeling weak the deck is surprisingly good against most midrange, control and combo decks. The main issue right now is that it just dies to Tron, Merfolk, Infect and Affinity and no amount of sideboard hate works.

>>52226015
These chinamen fags are getting more ridiculous with each thread. Never miss an opportunity to talk about how much I fucking love proxy cards. Aren't proxy cards the best? Hey guys, anon here, just got home with a brand new batch of proxies, best feeling in the world. Have you got your proxies yet? Why don't you just buy chinamen? What's that? You're getting a raise at work? I love raises, that way I can buy more chinamen fakes. Knock knock, do you have a moment to spare to talk about our lord and savior, mistah chinamen proxy? Hi, you might remember me as the mtg guy, I used to say "can you buy me now?" But now I've switched to chinamen, why pay 10000% more, for less than a 1% difference? All these cards are basically the same now, why pay more? Haha great joke man, that reminds me of the time I saved a bunch of money buy buys my chinamen.
Like wtf no one cares about you love no nip Dick so much, why you gotta shit up every thread by running a goddamn Broadway play about your proxy obsession.

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>>52226053

$240? You bought at a retarded time friendo. I went in on a $170 box to play limited with and am pretty sure I will make my part of the investment back.

Why buy a box just to crack packs anyway?

>>52226117
How you managed to avoid the literal fuck ton of eldrazi there is beyond me. Also if it's the same grixis control guy he cost me a match win by slow playing and refusing to concede when we went to time

>>52225701
sfwboard you faggot

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>>52226117
>dies to Tron, Merfolk, Infect and Affinity

Just run dude hate my dude.

Seems like you have trouble with blockers against multiple dudes, dude.

Some card food for thought:
Raise the Alarm
Secure the wastes
Elspeth Tirel
Gideon, ally
Blessed Alliance
Celestial Purge
Sundering Growth (Mainboard this shit, for real)
Auriok Champion
Worship (Nigga, why dont you have this)
Westvale Abbey
Vault of the Archangel
Selfless Spirit

>>52226230
Vault and abbey should be auto includes

>>52226230
Also, Kambal Consul is amazing.

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>>52226315

I feel like he's more of a sideboard card against Baral/Gifts decks trying to Storm off.

Goyffag again total value of box rares and mythics was $255.81 meaning I made $75.81 off this purchase. Moving to uncommons.

>>52226127
t. Mad cardboard investor

Enjoy your "real" rectangles while I enjoy the game at a fraction of the cost. I love stomping scrubs like you who spend 5k on modern and don't how to play lol

>>52226356
You could also try blind obedience. Could work wonders for your boardstate, especially against Affinity.

>>52226396
>chinamen fags responding to anti-chinamen pasta
Checks out

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>>52226396
>Judge inspects deck
>Card looks like its covered in shiny wax
>Thrown out

Gee.

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>>52226401

I'm not the guy with the tokens deck but if I were I might prefer Authority of the Consuls just because it only costs 1.

>>52226031
In a perfect world, removal. But colour pie.
I'd really like a command like k command or atarkas. Maybe a good counter

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>>52226396
Hey guys check out my totally real Mona Lisa I just bought for $12! It looks just like the real thing! I bet you fags are mad you paid $400 for yours and mine is just as good! You're the ones who are stupid, not me!

>>52226437
I didnt even know this was a thing. I dont pay attention to the newer sets as much as I should.

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>>52226547

It's how they are sideboarding against CopyCat in Standard.

>>52226230
>Raise the Alarm
I used to run this, but I prefer to run Timley Reinforcments.
>Secure the wastes
I've thought about it, it's just a little too inefficient imo.
>Elspeth Tirel
Another card I've proxied with, the problem is I really don't want to run any 5-drops.
>Gideon, ally
Honestly been meaning to pick 2 up for a while, the problem is just as he was getting cheap enough for me to get they changed rotation and he shot back up to $30.
>Blessed Alliance
Feels a bit slow for modern but worth considering I'll admit.
>Celestial Purge
The deck is actually really good against Jund and similar decks so I've never needed it.
>Sundering Growth (Mainboard this shit, for real)
I do run two in the side, I have htought about mainboarding it but the problem is that it is a really painful dead draw.
>Auriok Champion
I just checked and it somehow is all the way down to $16 for MP copies of it despite not getting a reprint. I may finally pick up 2 copies.
>Worship (Nigga, why dont you have this)
Just got one for the board.
>Westvale Abbey
It feels a tad too slow.
>Vault of the Archangel
Already running it.
>Selfless Spirit
Another card I brewed around with, the problem is that it doesn't really fit on my curve.

Thanks for the suggestions, though. Affinity is the deck that I can beat if I board enough hate in, I just haven't found the right amount of hate yet (right now I'm running 2 Stony Silence, 1 Kataki, 2 Sundering Growth and 2 Ghost Quarter in the board) Infect basically negates my strategy of chump blocking, merfolk just laughs at my tempo and Tron is so bad I don't even try to beat it. Fortunately, most tron decks are moving towards the Eldrazi variant, which are still tough but I can actually fight them.

>get basic lands
>pay someone five bucks to do a convincing full coverage alter on them to look like a stylized version of what I want to play with.
>show up to tournament with a "full alter" deck

Seems pretty easy.

>>52226766
Can't cover the name or mana cost tard baby

>>52226780
oh, okay.

>pay for fakes with the mana cost and name on them
>full alter them to cover everything else

Still seems pretty easy.

>>52226780
Tard baby would be a sweet Child of Alara alter tho

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>>52226826
Post of the century

Should I trade my stupid masterpieces for MM17 packs? (scrollrack and a gearhulk, forgot which)

>>52227213
Trade it for cash, and then get the equivalent in modern staples.

>I pull $140 out of my $240 box
>my friend pulls $435 out of two boxes
>some people pull less than $70
Fuck this set, man

>>52227275
Yep. Like someone else said, its Lilly Goyf lotto.

Either your box is really really good, or really really bad.

>>52227311
Pulled a foil mesa and damnation at draft last night
Opened a griselbrand in prizepacks

Not so bad so far.
if you arent drafting youre doing it wrong

>>52224205
Well, and here I was, thinking my box was mediocre. Got a path, an inquisition, two fetches and a snap. Everything else was utter shit, though. All in all, lost 60€.

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>mfw there were literally people in this thread just fucking weeks ago jerking off to MM2017 saying that the estimated value was over 300

I need another playset of paths do you guys think they'll drop any lower or should I just get em now to get free shipping?

>>52226356
Should be a white card, desu.

>>52227570
wait longer. Unless you direly need them now, I'd give it another 4 weeks. That's when they should be at their lowest.

>>52227546
Fuck you, man. I didn't realize they'd put most of the value rares and uncommons at 'chase rare/uncommon.'

They had value everywhere and decided to print WAY less of the money cards and jam most of the shit cards in every pack.

Here's the real deal you need to know about fakes.

Buy them if you want to just play casually or at your local LGS (depending on how serious your LGS is. I know mine won't even warn you for fakes because they want to create a 'friendly environment.')

Do NOT buy them if you expect to play in any serious tournament ever. Every card gets inspected before your deck is registered and those judges are fiends for checking card quality. If they even think your card might be fake, they will break out their magnifying glass and thoroughly check every detail in the card.

And that's it. If you're playing casually or at your casual LGS, go for it. If not, don't do it.

Now stop fucking bitching about real and fake cards and talk about the actual meta game, you shit lords.

>>52226396
i have an entire chinaman vintage deck and its extremely obvious what are proxies and what arent

Why is everyone so hyped about Bant Spirits? Every deck has synergy and you can always jam a tribal theme into a coco deck. It hasn't appeared once in a single top 8.

>>52227788
>it hasn't appeared once in a single top 8
Objectively incorrect

>>52227546
Those were people who couldn't be bothered to do the EV calculations themselves or read the articles where people did it for them. The EV is below MM2 although I don't fucking understand how they could print MORE shitty filler rares to do that.

In the end these people compose the majority of the player base and continue to reward Wizards for giving us garbage and paying for it and asking for more.

I always hope that 4chan would be the place that encourages the player base to shame the fuck out of everyone who buys this garbage, but there were tonnes of people who had already pre-ordered their boxes before the set was even spoiled.

Reason why poorfags are poor is because they make shit uninformed decisions like this over and over again in their lives.

>>52227788
It's pretty boring. The only things you end up doing is flashing in to prevent creature death or hold spell quelled once you get to 3 mana

>>52223530
Let's see.... played Death's Shadow 2 and 3 weeks ago. Played Breach Titan last Friday. Going to play GW Eldrazi tonight.

>Whatcha hatin'?
>Super Secret Sideboard Tech?
N/A

>What decks are just waiting for a card or two to be competitive contenders?
Storm, maybe?

>>52224496
>no twin unban
>no Jace unban
>no Preordain unban
>no BBE unban
>no SFM unban

Fuck this gay earth

>>52225953
please, this

Can you guys help me build a deck based aroud these three cards:
http://magiccards.info/gp/en/142.html

http://magiccards.info/query?
q=Pact+of+the+Titan&v=card&s=cname

http://magiccards.info/query?
q=Mass+Hysteria+&v=card&s=cname

>>52228032
No

>>52228032
How the fuck are you gonna live long enough to play a 7 drop that doesn't immediately win you the game or stabilize

>>52228097
>How the fuck are you gonna live long enough to play a 7 drop that doesn't immediately win you the game or stabilize
Lose the first 3 rounds of a low-level FNM meta.

>>52228032
This is the modern thread

>>52228097
You could suck off your opponent, that would buy you enough time. Although, that could be considered "Using outside influences to determine the outcome of the game" and get a one- way trip to Dairy Queen.

>>52225278
Yes, Card Kingdom has made a push to investing in the youtube scene. They also sponsor the command zone.

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>don't order mm17 box as a long standing decision to never ever buy sealed product until wotc decides to start printing cards worth the cardstock and ink used to make them
>mm17 spoilers start and retards lose their shit on every platform
>feel a little disappointed but stand my ground on the matter
>two weeks later
>WIZARDS WHAT IS THIS SHIT WHY DO THE SHIT CARDS APPEAR MORE THAN THE GOOD CARDS
>REEEEEEEEEEE
>WOTC took a shit on the players' chests, yet again
>and people are fucking surprised about it
I can't even laugh and be condescending anymore, I'm just depressed for everyone.

>>52228932
I know that feel. I have a friend who wanted to go halfsies on a box with me, and after I declined and explained why we shouldn't , he bought one anyway. He's opening it in a few, and when I think of his upcoming disappointment, I just feel sad.

I was thinking of drafting tomorrow, but I can't even muster up the excitement to do that.

MM17 CARDS WARP
ALL OF THEM
MY GOYF IS ALREADY WILTING
DON'T EVEN GET THE SINGLES

>>52229235
pics please

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>>52229278
This ghost council is pretty bad, will take more as needed.

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>>52229321

>>52229321
>>52229333
How do we know that those are mm17 cards if we can't see anything?

Also post crippled goyf.

>>52229321
>>52229333
Maybe it's just your camera retard

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>>52229390
I don't usually use this tablet camera sorry.

>>52229413
theres a big stack of mm15 draft commons at my lgs that's warped as fuck. idk why the master sets all wrap themselves up like that

>>52229413
I play OG dual lands that got ran through a washer in Legacy. This warping ain't shit. Put them in double sleeves, and sit them under a book, or just shuffle them into your decks.

>>52229321
>>52229333
>>52229413
>>52229444
So it's basically the same quality as EMA was? Guess i'm not buying foils of this set.

>>52228932
How do we know that the tarns are more rare than the other ones

How do you get thieves banned from a store? What's the burden of proof?

It seems like a huge he said she said sort of thing.

Do I call the police or let the Store Manager handle it?

>>52229470
I have a friend that "straightened" a card by steaming it until it began to wilt, laid it between paper towls, sandwiched it in a text book, then parked his car on top of the text book for a day.

to his credit, the card is straight now. the texture is all kinds of fucked up and people have accused him of having a fake verdant catacombs, but at least the shit is straight.

>>52229627
Holy shit what a dumbass. Just build your own leaf press.

>>52229627
To unwarp cards (I live in high desert), I put them in an otterbox with a wet piece of paper towel... for a while.

>>52229622
The store is a private business and so are FNM events. You can ban anybody you want for any reason and refuse them business especially if they're stealing from the store or other players.

That being said, players need to watch their fucking shit or stop bringing their entire collections with them everywhere and leaving them in their cards. What kind of dumb retard thinks they're going to need all 20 of their EDH decks that night. I also think it's retarded to own a huge binder of cards to trade; it's just money that's sitting there doing nothing.

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>>52227731

>>52227731
>Do NOT buy them if you expect to play in any serious tournament ever. Every card gets inspected before your deck is registered and those judges are fiends for checking card quality.

not true. I went to a GP once and deck inspection is assigned randomly

>>52227731
Who cares if the cards are real or not? Only skill matters

>>52230037
>talking about skill in a game of luck

xD look @ this baby scrub!

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>>52230037
>Only skill matters
Sure mattered in that PPTQ where I lost my last match getting mana flooded twice in a row.
>Serum Visions for an answer
>Drew a land
>Scryed 2 lands to the bottom
>Drew a land next turn
I was fucking platinum mad

>>52227612
Mardu, abzan or non-U. We've been over this many times.

>>52230160
Shuffle better

>>52230160
Last 3 PPTQs I went to, I top 8'd. Git gud, scrub.

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How did your MM3 drafts go? Played a Bant blink/Populate deck with Seance, Linvala and Deadeye Navigator, got Damnation too, but didn't play it. Went 2-1-0.

>>52230160
Yeah, it happens. Sucks too because for me it happens at the worst possible times.

>FNM a few weeks ago
>playing Burn
>against what i would find out later is mono R Tokens featuring Impact Tremors and Purphoros
>mull to six, get a keepable hand
>opponent proceeds to kill or block every single creature I play
>just need to topdeck a spell
>get lands for 4 turns
>lose on turn 7 and lose the match 1- 2

The guys deck became something of a meme joke at the store. I was so embarassed, I brought Soul Sisters just to fuck with him.

>someone at the LGS pulls a foil Mesa, damnation and foil Griselbrand in one box
>"damn dude, nice value. Good job"
>"Yeah, I'm gonna go buy another!"
>wat
>next box pulls 3 fetches, foil Voice and a liliana
>buys another
>pulls 4 fetches, damnation, 2 blood moons and tons of Paths/Deaths shadows/IoK's

And then there's the other dude at the end of the table who pulled 1 Marsh Flats and 3 mythic Miracles.

This is so disheartening for most people.

>>52230354
>Good job
Any time I hear this I just die a bit inside at how anybody could possibly believe their effort had anything to do with a random draw.

It's almost like it encourages it the shitty habit. You call them a retard and lucky bastard and that's it.

hey guys i'm speccing about 50 tarmogoyfs with my savings from my part time job for the last 6 years or so. when will the price rebound?

>>52230300
Wow, I'd love to see you top 8 after literally having no chance of winning

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>>52230260
Shut the fuck up faggot I shuffle fine, Literally not even that bizarre to have 4 lands in a row.

Holy shit the colors are so washed in this set. Japs have it even worse.

>>52230354
>Good job
>LGS only trades in 50% value

>>52230406
You don't have to win every game to top 8.

>>52230391
They're reprinting goyf at mythic in amonkhet. Goyf is gonna take a hit for a while, I'd invest in something that's bottomed out and likely to increase in price like cryptolith rites.

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>>52230518
>Visiting reddit at all

>>52230505
>Goyf
>Mass ProducedStandard Set

>>52230477
Yeah maybe if there's like 20 people competing, also top 8 isn't shit at a PPTQ, you either win or nothing you autistic faggot.

>>52230559
>if u aint first ur last
>the hamlet of you

>>52230571
You do understand that if you don't get first at a PPTQ you don't get the invite to the PTQ right?

>>52230592
>not understanding how a PPTQ works
>the unincorporated municipality of you

>>52230605
Please explain it to me you fucking faggot, cause I am 100% sure that first place gets an invite and everyone else gets nothing.

>>52230659
>he thinks valuable competitive experience is "nothing"
>he thinks putting as many DS shitters out of their misery as possible is "nothing"
>he thinks that being recognized for being one of the best players in the competition with a Top 8 is "nothing"
>the frontier town of him

>>52230659
>The winner of a Preliminary Pro Tour Qualifier will receive an invitation to compete in the Regional Pro Tour Qualifier of that season.

>Additional prizes may also be awarded to top finishes at your PPTQ. Check with your PPTQ store for more information.

>Additional prizes may also be awarded to top finishes at your PPTQ.

>Additional prizes may also be awarded to top finishes at your PPTQ.

>Additional prizes may also be awarded to top finishes at your PPTQ.

>Additional prizes may also be awarded to top finishes at your PPTQ.

lmao

>>52230701
>he thinks anyone appreciates his autistic memeing and he isn't a colossal faggot

>>52230701
>losing out on the only thing that really matters at a pptq totally counts guys
>implying anyone gives a fuck about how many pptqs you scrubbed out of

>>52230724
Holy shit, totally destroyed.

>the settlement of that guy

>>52230724
Literally doesn't fucking matter, who gives a shit about fucking a few packs or some store credit. Must suck to be some broke ass nigger jerking off to his compensation aether revolt packs.

>>52230754
>thinking racism is still edgy or cool
>the holiday resort of you

>>52230749
Dude, are you serious? It's clear you guys have never been to a PPTQ, yeah they give out some packs to top 8, who gives a fuck about 10 dollars worth of store credit, you're a fucking tard.

>>52230746
PPTQ Top 8s are a meaningful metric for skill and the only people who tell you otherwise are the people who have only ever Top 8'd their local FNM.

>>52230773
A PPTQ I went to a few years back was giving out MM2 boxes to Top 8.

>>52230786
>A meaningful metric for skill
You are so fucking retarded lmao, the fact of the matter is that if you don't come in first you don't get the invite you fucking dunce.

>Please explain it to me you fucking faggot, cause I am 100% sure that first place gets an invite and everyone else gets nothing.

>>52230754
>>52230746
>>52230773

>100m backpedal champions
>hailing from the border town of you

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>MM draft is 50 Canadian dollarydoos

>>52230799
>A box of MM2015 for top 8
You're literally so full of shit it's fucking painful, I go to the SCG PPTQs and the best prizes ever given out were booster boxes for top 4, then split booster boxes for 5-8. If you are seriously implying some store was giving out literally 2000 msrp for top 8 you're a fucking retard and a liar.
>inb4 star of david games XXDDDD
Anyone who has actually played there knows there prize support is legit.

>>52230592
>>52230659
>I literally say right here multiple times I'm talking about the invite
>>52230816
>b-but muh packs! You're backpedaling cause people go to pptqs to win packs!
I wouldn't pay the entry fee of 25$ if there was no chance at a PTQ you autistic fuck, I literally do not care at all what you say anymore.

>>52230865
They charged $80 for registration and got almost 90 entrants. Ran it out of a church. Came out ahead last I heard from the owner.

>>52230921
>a prize for top 8 is now the same as nothing

Wow, look, mom, it's the Only True Scotsman!

You got destroyed, kid. Go back to chewing bubblegum in your propeller beanie.

>the outpost of you

>>52230388
Yea obviously, I own a store and I make people feel like golden gods when they pull well. I even take pictures and upload them on Facebook with a bunch of yes men that always like it and leave encouraging comments. Works like a charm, I watch so many people obliterate their pay cheque every two weeks, especially newer players that haven't become numb inside yet.

>>52230849
It's fucking $15 a pack. It's insane. I bought one for shits and got a Marsh Flats and an Inquisition of Kozilek so I got my money back but for fucks sake.
I can buy Damnation for less than the fucking draft entry.

>>52230944
>80$ registration
What the fuck

>>52230993
The prize for top 8 was a fucking MM 2015 box. So many scrubs thought they were hot shit and would come out ahead.

>>52230959
Sorry I'll be more clear next time so you're autistic ass can understand that a grown ass man doesn't give a single fuck about a few booster packs
>paying 25 dollars and winning 6 booster packs is a prize

>>52231012
>coming out ahead is now the same as losing everything

Wow, you really are fucking retarded, aren't you?

The people who taught you math should be hanged.

>>52230959
Do you have autism? First time posting in this thread, just wondering.

>>52231025
>Paying 25 dollars at least for 24 dollars of booster packs is coming out ahead
So this is the power of autism...

>>52231036
Everyone here has autism. Also, no one actually plays, we just argue about literally everything.

Enjoy your stay.

>>52231057
>spending one dollar for a day of fun is a bad value

So this is the power of being a complete fucking retard who only knows how to use the shittiest of maymays...

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>>52231070
It seems like it, I always get excited when I see a Magic thread but it always seems to be arguments about semantics or other small things that usually boil down to point of view or taste. After reading for awhile I just get exhausted and sad.

Maybe I'm just getting old and I don't know what's hip any more, is this how kids talk to each other?

>>52230849
Got mine for ~40$, 10 less than just buying packs from the LGS

>>52231160
Woops, 30$.

I only play Standard because I don't have $8,000 to spend on a Modern deck - is it even worth it going to a MM3 draft tomorrow for $40?

>>52231177
Depends on if you're good at draft, if you enjoy draft, and how the prizes are done. I really liked drafting the original MM, but not so much mm2015. Totally up to you if you like draft.

>>52231137
Naw, it's just how Anons talk to each other. It's an outlet for anger and aggression. 9/10 magic players are totally cool and chill people with reasonable, if varied, opinions on the game and they can share those opinions in a calm and collected manor most of the time.

9/10 Anons are raging idiots who can only yell and scream at each other for having the wrong kind of fun or wasting money or whatever.

>>52231177
Do it if $40 is worth a couple hours of fun. I'm doing it because I like socializing over a game I enjoy and it's cheaper than going to a bar. And don't expect to see any money cards (much less actually draft them); I have terrible luck opening packs.

>>52230963
See, that's the same sort of honesty I share with my store owner. He and I both know how fucking idiotic it is cracking packs. He even cracks one in front of everyone to get things rolling; if they pull bad he rips another one open to spread the feels around; if it's a bad card everyone has the feel bad; if it's a good one, it might get sold on the spot.

I don't say shit against it because it benefits him. It's just fucking disgusting that other players push it.

>>52231177
>8000
There are good modern decks around 3-500 and they retain value senpai. If you can afford even one of the cheaper standard decks you should be able to afford a modern deck if you save for a little bit. If you wanted something like Jund though that might take a while.

>>52231237
I'm not taking out a $21,000 loan just to play a dead format of a card game bro.

>>52231177
Modern storm with Khans Fetches is tier 2 and is like 300 dollars.

>>52231250
Ok I didn't realize you're a fucking memer I'll just move along with my 1 billion dollar modern decks then.

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/modern/full#paper

>>52230319
Drafted a solid GW tokens deck, got lucky with rares being passed to me. Went 2-1. Removal in this format is abundant and strong.


2 Avacyn's Pilgrim
2 Death-Hood Cobra
2 Call of the Conclave
1 Flickerwisp*
1 Blade Splicer
2 Centaur Healer
2 Eyes in the Skies
1 Penumbra Spider*
1 Vital Splicer
1 Advent of the Wurm
1 Thragtusk
1 Arachnus Spinner
1 Urbis Protector
2 Fists of Ironwood
1 Strength in Numbers
2 Arachnus Web*
1 Misty Rainforest
2 Selesnya Guildgate*
6 Plains
8 Forest
* = foil or one foil copy

>>52231250
Maybe get a job??????????

>>52231300
I'm a trauma centre doctor and I still can't afford to play Modern because of my student loans; $39k for a deck is like a quarter of my take-home yearly salary and I got mouths to feed. So I play Standard.

>>52231322
Why are you memeing this hard. A decent modeern deck costs you two standard rotations and you'll never have to buy a deck again if you don't want to.

We're not playing unproxied vintage for fuck's sake stop being retarded

>>52231322
>39k for a deck
Lmao what are you playing pauper? My mono red standard deck is pushing 3.5 mil, you're got to kill yourself honestly, it's what's right.

>>52231345
>Never have to buy a deck again if you don't want to
t. guy who never played twin or pod

>>52231369
>buying into degenerate decks
You deserve it desu

>>52231388
Sick meme tbhwy family, upvoted and brofisted.

>>52226127
This made me kek

>>52223530
The fuck happened to Mishra's baubles, I bought two a few years back for a dollar, worth ~$ 35 each now

>>52231447
Sell them senpai

>>52231447
It's played in a bunch of decks that want Delerium. Also, it's a free cantrip that replaces (sorta) Git Probe.

>>52231467
>Played in a bunch of decks
Literally just DSJ and Junk

>>52231502
As far as the top meta is concerned, yeah. But a bunch of "literally what" decks want it too, namely any deck rocking Traverse.

Also, wasn't there a recent buyout of bauble?

>>52231405
Pod was too good senpai it needed to be banned, I have a friend who was a pod player and even he agrees.

Twin was debatable desu

>Got my preorder for 4 foil serum visions cancelled cause the seller told me that they weren't near mint out of the pack and he didn't want to rip me off
What the fuck? Is the packaging shitty again?

>spend $10 on a pack
>Evil Twin as my rare

Why do I do this to myself

>>52231531
Yeah, the buyout is the reason

>>52231568
It's literally lottery tickets for kids.
>>52231551
>Pod was too good
They could have banned something else desu

>>52231597
Meant for
>>52231541

>>52231541
>twin was debatable
No, it wasn't, at all. Twin did nothing wrong.

>>52231674
That's why it's debatable you stupid fuck.

>>52231597
What else could they have banned to brinng it down? Pod was dominating then and if you ban one of the creatre package it's easily replaced because of the way wizards has been printing creatures.

I'm genuinely curious what you think they could have banned to bring it down without killing it.

>>52231674
t. Twin player

>>52230769
Go back to tumblr, triggered snowflake. This forum is for grown ups that can handle the ugly truths that are politically incorrect.

>>52231704
kitchen finks 100%

Split half a box of mm17. Pulled scalding tarn, verdant catacombs and marsh flats. Should I sit on then until the price goes back up?

>>52231703
I mean, all arguments for banning it are nonsense. For that reason, there is no serious debate to be had. Curtail your autism.

>>52231755
Either keep them because every deck needs fetches (ignore if you have 2 or more playsets of each fetch) or keep them for six months to a year for the price to go back up.

>>52231597
>It's literally lottery tickets for kids
I know this and I can't stop gambling

Fuck

>>52231288
did you get to flickerwisp the thragtusk at least once?

>>52231597
>It's literally lottery tickets for kids.
That's very accurate.

>>52231704
t. WOTC

Best forest art for under 5 (euro)bucks? No unsets. Avon's Invasion one in foil?

>>52231913
gurus or nothing you fucking pleb

>>52231913
Which lands?

>>52231994
>not liking snow-covered meme forests
Shit taste, desu.

>>52231913
Guru misstamps or foil unhinged.

>>52231913
https://sites.google.com/site/mtgbasics/

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>>52231994
Sorry I wasn't born to a Rockefeller.
>>52232006
I don't understand the question.
>>52232019
>under 5 bucks
>no unsets
Ebin.

>>52232015
Snow-Covered are for poor people trying to be special.

>>52231674
No he means splinter twin not evil twin

>>52231913
Odyssey

>>52232029
>he doesn't play Judge promo lands
Just stop playing senpai

>>52231913
European. They cost a bit more than what you want, but they are beautiful, especially the French one.

Finished drafting out a box of MM17

>catacombs
>rainforest
>damnation
>linvala
>2 path
>1 IoK
>1 Decay

Value was shit, but had fun. Who the fuck thought two mythics a box was a good idea?

Twin was cancer and deserved to be banned. The hate for the twin ban is just a meme and if you buy into it you're a literal beta cuck and should just kys desu.

>>52226053
Why would you pay full price when they are going for 50 dollars cheaper online?

>>52232204
The people who pull goyf lili.
Pro Tip: Less than 25% of the rares/mythics have an msrp of 10 dollars. And 7 of those are mythics. So you're pretty much boned more than 3/4 times you buy a pack.

>>52229521
They're not. People are just paranoid and superstitious as fuck.

>>52232330
I mean it's actually true that fatal push was more rare. I just didn't know if that happened with rares.

>>52232213
>not realizing that the meta is far worse without Twin and that the card didn't break any rules
>based reactive blue went from 25% to 5-10.
>liking Creatures: the tappening.
Kys, senpai.

>>52232355
The meta right now is good, no one gives a shit if your favorite archetype isn't the best deck

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>At 1 life against burn
>Eldritch Evolution into an Iona
>Sits there for a minute with his 1 goblin guide, thinking
>Concedes
Fuck I'm getting so hard playing this deck.

>>52230391
The second you do that WotC will accidentally print another green creature that's even better.

>>52232402
If wizards ever prints a better green beater than tarmogoyf I will quit playing magic. Tbh I legitimately believe DRS is better than goyf, but it's banned.

>>52232421
It is better. Just not a single a beater, obv.

>>52232385
Is that the memey elves evolution deck or you got another dank evo deck senpai?

>>52232497
Dank deaths shadow evo deck I posted earlier in the thread

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Dusk: 2WW
Destroy all creatures with power equal or superior to 3.
Dawn: 3WW
Consequence (Cast this spell only from your graveyard, Then, exile it)
Return all creature cards with power equal or less than 2 from your graveyard to your hand,

>>52232538
Confirmed fake by reddit

>>52232277
I am glad that I bought it for drafting for that reason.

At least I have a bunch of signets that I don't have to buy for my EDH decks now. It'll be nice having taplands and those readily available. Who knows, maybe the foil ones will go back up

>>52232560
Thank god, this shit hurts to look at.

>>52232353
Yeah, I don't know why they fuck around with uncommon rarity in standard sets so much. Monastery Swiftspear was rarer than a fetch land and I never pulled a single Isochron Sceptre when I went full retard during Mirrodin.

>>52232560
What was fake about it?

>>52232512
I feel like that deck would just be better without the DS desu. I think maybe a toolbox sultai build something like that could work though.

As Abzan CoCo, do I just wait until games 2/3 against affinity? I was playing casual games against my friend to get the feel of the match up and everything I do feels too slow gane 1.

4-0d with my meme brew pretty happy.
2-1 against burn, 2-0 against storm, 2-1 against Bant Eldrazi, 2-0 against Instant Reanimator.
The final 60 for the deck was
Land (19)
2x Breeding Pool
1x Island
4x Misty Rainforest
2x Overgrown Tomb
4x Polluted Delta
1x Swamp
3x Verdant Catacombs
2x Watery Grave
Creature (19)
4x Death's Shadow
2x Griselbrand
3x Gurmag Angler
4x Hooting Mandrills
1x Iona, Shield of Emeria
4x Street Wraith
Instant (12)
2x Abrupt Decay
2x Dismember
3x Manamorphose
4x Thought Scour
Sorcery (14)
3x Eldritch Evolution
3x Inquisition of Kozilek
3x Serum Visions
3x Thoughtseize
Still tinkering of cours but overall very happy.Playing turn 1 discard, into turn 2 mandrills, into turn 3 discard angler is fucking insanely good. It may not be as good as just straight DSJ, but I am 100% sure that being able to Eldritch turn 3 for Iona or Elesh Norn is going to be fantastic. Also I feel like I'm going to have a better matchup against regular DSJ, as if I ever resolve Eldritch Evolution I can't see them beating Griselbrand or Iona. Also having stuff not die to push/decay is real nice.

>>52232715
Already tried it. And I found that beat face with a big guy was the plan 75% of the time, and you're running so many fetches as delve fuel, you lose life quick. I feel like a toolbox build would just be too slow, like all other decks that try to be jund but Jund always has better cards.

>>52232803
Then why not just play regular DS at this point?

>>52230319
went Naya beats, the fixing is so good. I smashed hard but lost to a fucking misplay god damn it

>>52232835
Because I believe that this deck has the same matchups that regular DSJ has, while maybe losing a couple percentage points here and there but relatively the same. I think it will have a good matchup against traditional DSJ though. I am shrinking their goyfs, casting creatures that don't die to their fatal pushes or decays, and run a combo that they really can't beat. Also I run more card draw and can dig out my side board cards very consistently.

>>52232651
It has to do with the sheets on which the cards are printed. There was actually some controversy back during Innistraad limited due to E-Wilds being the one card printed at half-rate and causing fixing to be almost nonexistent.

>tfw I keep making the mistake of reading Modern generals
The fact it's either this or EDH in /tg/ is suffering. Why can't Standard or Legacy be more alive, they don't seem to be sour and jaded 24/7.

>>52232950
Honestly, if you killed yourself right now do you think anyone would care? Cause you should.

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>>52233021
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>>52233030
Also I know it's a post early, but I notice when a thread's about to necro people stop posting.

>>52233090
Well, then we should wait until this shit hits page 10 before we make a thread now right? So people goddamn learn.

>>52232560
Proper formatting, proper text, hologram, date, text, believable, foreign language grammar not disputed by anybody. CRISP PICTURE

If it's not real then the fakers have upped their game. And I'd put my money on it being real over the trolls putting effort into anything.

>>52230559
>Yeah maybe if there's like 20 people competing, also top 8 isn't shit at a PPTQ, you either win or nothing you autistic faggot.
Each one I went to had about 50 people and I squeaked in with one loss.

>>52230260
I actually love this. People used to tell me this when I drew poorly with tooth and nail. The deck was mediocre. But I don't know why but it stuck with me. Like it's a joke. It means get good but it has more meaning to me

>>52231237
This. Also now that I have staples I can buy any deck I like for around 1-200 bucks

>>52231502
And RUG Delver :^]

>>52232926
Kind of ironic how it only happens to the cards people need. Might as well reclassify these cards as mythic uncommon so people know what to expect.

>>52224205
>this got posted on reddit
@reddit spies FUCK OFF NORMIES